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| 00:35.52 | Elive_user9 | hola |
| 00:36.07 | keyra | Elive_user9: que tal ? |
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| 00:49.53 | Elive_user67_es | hau alguien alli? |
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| 02:49.31 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: pango ping! |
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| 04:55.32 | Elive_user10_es | saluda |
| 04:58.12 | Elive_user10_es | han reescrito el ecomorph verdad.. |
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| 08:27.38 | Akatsuki | muchachos como puedo copiar/pegar en esta Terminal URxvt ? |
| 08:27.53 | keyra | Akatsuki: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 08:28.08 | Akatsuki | oh keyra :) |
| 08:28.20 | Akatsuki | la mas linda bot |
| 08:28.49 | Akatsuki | key como estas? |
| 08:28.54 | Akatsuki | keyra como estas? |
| 08:29.08 | keyra | Akatsuki: yo muy bien, y tu ? |
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| 08:39.20 | Elive_user21_en | whos around i need help i put newer dev on an i cant get it to start saw error 10,104,3 i get it saying no screen help pls |
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| 09:14.11 | MEETmou | hey (: |
| 09:14.33 | MEETmou | this news-feature is really cool O.o |
| 09:22.32 | MEETmou | Uhm what happens on every 2nd boot of elive? Cause on every 2nd boot elive freezes while booting right after it showed up "Starting System Clock..." |
| 09:46.56 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, freezes ? |
| 09:47.02 | Thanatermesis | live or installed ? |
| 09:47.28 | Thanatermesis | which feature is cool MEETmou ? :) |
| 09:48.13 | MEETmou | installed.. and yes. it doesnt do anything. it still reacts on my ESC-key for dissabling the splashcreen, but it doesnt do anything.. it really is exactly every second boot that this occurs xD |
| 09:48.31 | MEETmou | that elive checks for news on startup and shows them in iceweasel (: |
| 09:50.45 | Thanatermesis | second boot means, after the fine-tune step ? or just second boot ? |
| 09:51.17 | MEETmou | every second boot.. the system is installed for 2 days now, i think |
| 09:51.23 | Thanatermesis | ah yes this feature is very old |
| 09:51.34 | Thanatermesis | mmh, this is very strange |
| 09:51.51 | Thanatermesis | can you make me a ssh to this machine ? |
| 09:52.29 | MEETmou | yes very.. and starting up the clock means that the machine is still in init 1 doesnt it? Oo .. sure i can.. if you tell me how :D |
| 09:53.07 | Thanatermesis | try to boot the computer with the boot parameter "single 1", then you will have a root prompt (if doesn't freeze before that), if you got it, then start starting the daemons that are after "starting system clock" to see WHICH one is the one that freezes |
| 09:53.56 | MEETmou | okay.. writing that done and after ill test.. thanks (: |
| 09:54.17 | Thanatermesis | wait |
| 09:54.24 | Thanatermesis | yes, it is on init 1 (rcS.d) |
| 09:55.11 | Thanatermesis | but i dont found ""Starting System Clock..." with these exact words, MEETmou |
| 09:55.17 | Thanatermesis | it is that the exact sentence ? |
| 09:55.59 | Thanatermesis | grep -niR "system.*clock" /etc/rcS.d/* |
| 09:56.11 | Thanatermesis | see which one is, to see which one is the next that blocks |
| 09:56.24 | Thanatermesis | then we will try to found what does it to freeze |
| 09:56.49 | MEETmou | Okay (: Could be that it is Setting up System Clock instead |
| 09:57.30 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 09:57.32 | Thanatermesis | it could be: |
| 09:57.49 | Thanatermesis | S08hwclockfirst.sh or S11hwclock.sh |
| 09:57.50 | Thanatermesis | so |
| 09:58.20 | Thanatermesis | edit all the next files after S08hwclockfirst.sh to S20... aprox. |
| 09:58.29 | Thanatermesis | and add to the second line of them, the line "set -x" |
| 09:58.37 | Thanatermesis | this will add a full verbose messages of every init script |
| 09:58.39 | Thanatermesis | so then, reboot |
| 09:58.49 | Thanatermesis | and you will see ALL the commands and steps that these commands will do |
| 09:59.05 | Thanatermesis | so that you will found WHICH line is the one that freezes (which line = which command) |
| 09:59.08 | MEETmou | uhm where are those shells stored? |
| 09:59.21 | Thanatermesis | in /etc/rcS.d |
| 09:59.30 | Thanatermesis | brb, breakfast time :) ill back in some minutes |
| 09:59.54 | MEETmou | okay (: |
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| 10:22.25 | MEETmou | strange thing.. my pc wants to punk me.. -.- the error didnt occur again.. even after many reboots |
| 10:22.32 | MEETmou | but thanks anyway Thanatermesis |
| 10:22.40 | keyra | MEETmou: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb |
| 10:24.14 | MEETmou | if i want to change from e-compiz to normal dev i just have to uninstall ecomorph and install e17 correct? |
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| 10:44.15 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, doesn't has happened again ? |
| 10:44.57 | MEETmou | Thanatermesis, nope :) i think my pc hase some kind of will/life itself xD |
| 10:45.02 | Thanatermesis | <MEETmou> if i want to change from e-compiz to normal dev i just have to uninstall ecomorph and install e17 correct? |
| 10:45.07 | Thanatermesis | i recommend to reinstall a new ISO |
| 10:45.16 | Thanatermesis | or to create a new user after to do that |
| 10:45.29 | Thanatermesis | well, you can do that and then run the command "postinstall-user" |
| 10:45.34 | Thanatermesis | i think that is sufficient |
| 10:45.46 | MEETmou | okay (: thanks |
| 10:45.50 | Thanatermesis | MEETmou, maybe you have badblocks in the disk or the ram |
| 10:46.30 | MEETmou | hm could be.. the hdd has its age.. |
| 10:46.49 | Thanatermesis | so you need to check it :) |
| 10:46.50 | Thanatermesis | OR |
| 10:46.58 | Thanatermesis | to wait a very nice feature for Elive that is coming |
| 10:47.34 | MEETmou | waiting for something others do sounds nice :'D |
| 10:47.43 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 10:47.52 | Thanatermesis | well, you have a list of remaining features at: |
| 10:48.20 | Thanatermesis | these 2 links: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#next_stable_release_when |
| 10:55.14 | MEETmou | still a lot to do (: |
| 10:57.25 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 10:57.29 | Thanatermesis | unafortunately |
| 10:57.35 | Thanatermesis | unafortunately for the next stable release |
| 10:57.41 | Thanatermesis | fortunately for features for Elive :) |
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| 11:49.28 | MEETmou | hmm i downloaded all the xfonts-packages for displayin kana and hiragana and kanji but the fonts dont appear in any programms.. do i have to start the postinstall again? |
| 11:50.24 | MEETmou | is away: brb |
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| 12:36.10 | MEETmou | uhm uhm uhm and how am i able to find out why sound isnt working? do i have to start the sounddemon from out of the terminal? and if so: how? :D |
| 12:36.24 | keyra | MEETmou: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
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| 13:19.17 | Elive_user63_en | how can you get the latest version of openoffice in the latest unstable verision of elive? The synaptic only gets you 2.4. |
| 13:19.43 | ikevin | you can download it from openoffice's site |
| 13:21.00 | Elive_user63_en | sure, duh, why didn't I think of that.And I guess I'd need to uninstall the installed version first? |
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| 16:06.30 | Elive_user63_en | hey, how do you remove an entry from the applications menu that you added mistakenly? |
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| 16:56.15 | Arv3n | hi. |
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| 16:56.51 | Arv3n | Debian, and kernels similar to Debian Lenny's have trouble booting on my stem. |
| 16:56.57 | Arv3n | hi princeamd |
| 16:57.05 | keyra | Arv3n: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 16:57.13 | Arv3n | on live cds i get squashfs can not be found. |
| 16:57.24 | Arv3n | on debian lenny itself it can't detect a cd drive in the installation process. |
| 16:57.31 | Arv3n | can anyone help? |
| 16:57.39 | keyra | Arv3n: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 16:57.49 | Arv3n | be quiet keyra |
| 16:58.30 | Arv3n | im actually trying to use 1.9.29 (or whatever) -- the latest compiz elive version. |
| 16:59.35 | Arv3n | anyone? |
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| 17:04.31 | PrinceAMD2 | hey Arv3n |
| 17:05.24 | Arv3n | hi. |
| 17:05.46 | PrinceAMD2 | waz up |
| 17:06.10 | Arv3n | nothing. |
| 17:06.14 | Arv3n | still working on that cd drive problem. |
| 17:06.22 | Arv3n | been months now and no answer. |
| 17:07.50 | PrinceAMD2 | Arv3n, u have usb cd drive? |
| 17:13.02 | Arv3n | no. |
| 17:13.07 | Arv3n | im not wasting money on that. |
| 17:13.16 | Arv3n | everything else works fine -- i filed a bug but nobody cares. |
| 17:13.27 | Arv3n | both in parsix and elive, nobody even responded. |
| 17:13.35 | Arv3n | that's just sad. :| |
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| 18:14.10 | Elive_user8_en | Hello! Testing this elive stuff out |
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| 18:42.32 | Pacma | is away: No estoy |
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| 19:09.02 | Elive_user63_en | can anybody tell me how you REMOVE an application menu item that you accidentally put under the wrong submenu? |
| 19:09.18 | Elive_user63_en | this is in the latest unstable release... |
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| 19:18.38 | Thanatermesis | rebbi, how you have added it ? |
| 19:20.08 | Thanatermesis | rebbi, here please |
| 19:20.18 | Thanatermesis | what you have installed and how ? so that you have this entry |
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| 19:24.46 | Thanatermesis | rebbi, |
| 19:26.34 | Thanatermesis | rebbi, please here on this channel |
| 19:28.13 | Thanatermesis | rebbi, ? |
| 19:28.23 | Thanatermesis | what you have installed ? |
| 19:28.30 | rebbi | OpenOffice |
| 19:28.47 | rebbi | but from the OO download page, not the repos, to get the latest version. |
| 19:29.08 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 19:29.11 | Thanatermesis | debian packages ? |
| 19:29.17 | Thanatermesis | so, you have installed them as root or as user ? |
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| 19:29.45 | rebbi | user, I guess |
| 19:30.14 | rebbi | yes... I just used the OO installer... didn't do a su in the terminal or anything like that.. |
| 19:30.16 | Thanatermesis | ok, made a look to your $HOME/.local/share/applications directory |
| 19:30.28 | keyra | rebbi: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 19:30.45 | Thanatermesis | well, they could be in .local maybe, then i recommend you to remove it correctly, it is BIG for your home, a waste of space |
| 19:30.52 | Thanatermesis | du -hs $HOME/.local |
| 19:32.02 | rebbi | -hs ?? |
| 19:34.01 | rebbi | looks to me like all the files are installed in /opt |
| 19:34.55 | Thanatermesis | well, then remove them |
| 19:35.00 | Thanatermesis | you dont have a uninstaller ? |
| 19:36.40 | rebbi | don't see an uninstaller in the install application |
| 19:40.23 | Thanatermesis | send them a email saying that they do uglyware :) |
| 19:49.03 | rebbi | yeah, uglyware... right.... I think I'm just better off using the 2.4 version in the repos... but why don't we have the most recent version in the repos? |
| 19:54.40 | Thanatermesis | there's a lot of sofware that worries about to make it working correctly but they are not worried at all about when the user want to uninstall it |
| 19:55.05 | Thanatermesis | maybe they thinks too "uninstall it is not our problem, it is also better for us if they doesn't uninstall it" |
| 19:55.11 | Thanatermesis | another example is opera |
| 19:55.19 | Thanatermesis | if you install it, your default browser is set to opera |
| 19:55.45 | Thanatermesis | but if you remove this package (yes, a clean debian package), it doesnt unset the default browser... so everywhere that you click that is a link not works anymore |
| 19:55.52 | Thanatermesis | crapware |
| 19:57.14 | Thanatermesis | rebbi, because it is not in debian stable |
| 19:57.18 | Thanatermesis | debian lenny |
| 19:57.31 | rebbi | ah, got it now... |
| 19:57.52 | Thanatermesis | well, at least is a stable version! :) |
| 19:58.01 | Thanatermesis | not the most recent one but a stabilized one |
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| 20:00.31 | rebbi | okay |
| 20:00.56 | rebbi | maybe now I just have to reinstall elive to get rid of OpenOffice... yikes. |
| 20:04.00 | Wizard | lol |
| 20:04.37 | Wizard | installed by hand? |
| 20:04.45 | Wizard | from official packages? |
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| 20:17.05 | rebbi | wizard installed by hand from the ./setup program on the OO website. |
| 20:17.29 | Wizard | mhm |
| 20:17.35 | Wizard | which path did you choose? |
| 20:17.54 | rebbi | it installed it into /opt |
| 20:18.09 | Wizard | this setup does not use any other directory, so you can safely remove it |
| 20:18.21 | Wizard | but not whole /opt of course |
| 20:18.22 | Wizard | :) |
| 20:18.25 | rebbi | really? you sure? |
| 20:18.28 | Wizard | yup |
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| 20:18.34 | rebbi | okay... here goes... |
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| 20:18.42 | Wizard | /opt/oo.org, something like this |
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| 20:19.21 | rebbi | there are two subdirs in opt: openoffice.org and openoffice3.org |
| 20:19.32 | Wizard | hmm |
| 20:19.35 | Wizard | remove both ;) |
| 20:19.48 | Wizard | and than you may have to clean menu entries |
| 20:20.04 | Wizard | usually in your home directory |
| 20:20.09 | rebbi | how do I clean menu entries? that's what started this whole thing. |
| 20:20.58 | Wizard | hmm |
| 20:21.04 | Wizard | that's pretty good question :D |
| 20:21.45 | rebbi | yeah, it is! ;-) |
| 20:21.49 | rebbi | brb |
| 20:21.54 | Wizard | i think .config.. |
| 20:21.59 | Wizard | in your home.. |
| 20:22.07 | Wizard | and than.. xdg-menu? |
| 20:22.10 | Wizard | i think.. |
| 20:22.18 | Wizard | browse through such dirs.. |
| 20:22.28 | Wizard | to bad i don't have any linux nearby :D |
| 20:24.20 | Thanatermesis | they are in $HOME/.local/share/applications |
| 20:24.50 | Wizard | :) |
| 20:25.01 | Wizard | Thanatermesis: i've found another distro featuring e17 |
| 20:25.12 | Wizard | yellowdog linux |
| 20:26.44 | Thanatermesis | yes, that's a old one |
| 20:27.00 | Thanatermesis | but all of them aren't the enlightened distros :) |
| 20:27.31 | Wizard | :D |
| 20:28.07 | Wizard | http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/e17.shtml |
| 20:29.36 | Thanatermesis | well, not looks that bad as the first time :) |
| 20:33.56 | Wizard | downloads |
| 20:34.02 | Wizard | i'm gonna check it out |
| 20:35.36 | Thanatermesis | Wizard, only for ppc |
| 20:35.49 | Wizard | i have only ppc |
| 20:35.50 | Thanatermesis | based on... |
| 20:35.53 | Thanatermesis | red hat, i think |
| 20:35.58 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 20:36.09 | Thanatermesis | then is a good option for you :) |
| 20:37.08 | Wizard | yup |
| 20:38.38 | rebbi | actually, there's another distro with a very nice e17 desktop as an option in their repos: Slitaz. It's very nice. |
| 20:39.24 | rebbi | wicked fast, too. :-) |
| 20:39.42 | rebbi | gotta go! |
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| 21:40.16 | Elive_user72 | hola mundo |
| 21:40.31 | keyra | Elive_user72: que tal ? |
| 21:40.42 | Elive_user72 | alguien habla español |
| 21:40.56 | Elive_user72 | como estas |
| 21:43.28 | Elive_user72 | hola |
| 21:43.34 | Elive_user72 | sigues ahi keyra |
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