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| 07:40.20 | DronAn[BY] | Hi all |
| 08:00.04 | DronAn[BY] | ÐÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ |
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| 10:02.25 | Thanatermesis | ÐÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ DronAn[BY] |
| 10:03.04 | Thanatermesis | what happened finally with the gprs connection ? |
| 10:03.45 | DronAn[BY] | Nothing yet |
| 10:04.09 | DronAn[BY] | I'll wait for USB modem |
| 10:04.51 | DronAn[BY] | maybe my phone cause trubles |
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| 10:20.08 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 13:17.00 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: remember you told me about awesome? i an trying dvtm, i can have a 300column wide console and still have space for conky and erss and gkrellm surrounding this console |
| 13:18.30 | she_dyed | and I can still have my E17! :) best part |
| 13:19.27 | Thanatermesis | mmh, looks interesting |
| 13:19.31 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, we want screenshot :) |
| 13:20.24 | she_dyed | am still trying to get mc to show '|' lines instead of other characters |
| 13:21.05 | Thanatermesis | do you have wrong chars ? |
| 13:21.14 | she_dyed | yes |
| 13:21.22 | Thanatermesis | dvtm remembers me the vim :vs and :split features :) |
| 13:21.25 | she_dyed | so mc doesn't look 'clean' |
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| 13:21.28 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, do you use urxvt ? |
| 13:21.35 | she_dyed | yes! |
| 13:21.40 | Thanatermesis | which language ? |
| 13:21.41 | she_dyed | everywhere |
| 13:21.47 | she_dyed | er US english |
| 13:21.57 | Thanatermesis | and "locale" command doesn't show you any error, right ? |
| 13:22.05 | she_dyed | 1 sec |
| 13:22.16 | Thanatermesis | well, do a screenshot of your dvtm and include mc on it :) |
| 13:23.50 | she_dyed | i was hoping to fix it first... |
| 13:24.06 | Thanatermesis | it is strange, doesnt happens to me |
| 13:24.17 | she_dyed | but anyway give me 15 min, i want weechat in there too from now on |
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| 14:02.14 | she_dyed | here you go Thanatermesis, its not pretty yet |
| 14:03.08 | she_dyed | http://imagebin.ca/view/VGUWih.html |
| 14:03.48 | she_dyed | http://imagebin.ca/view/VGUWlh.html, sorry |
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| 14:05.41 | Thanatermesis | http://imagebin.ca/view/VGUWIh.html |
| 14:06.02 | she_dyed | oh sorry my font |
| 14:06.04 | DronAn[BY] | nothing there |
| 14:06.04 | she_dyed | my bad |
| 14:08.02 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, try my font: ttf-freematrix package :) |
| 14:08.21 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, your desktop (also terminals) will look like this: http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/desktop-matrixized.jpg |
| 14:08.30 | Thanatermesis | dont be scared :) |
| 14:08.35 | keyra | Thanatermesis: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
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| 14:13.49 | betrayd | http://imagebin.ca/view/VGUWIh.html < this was the corect one |
| 14:15.26 | Thanatermesis | betrayd = she_dyed ? what happened with she_dyed ? |
| 14:15.35 | betrayd | its me |
| 14:15.47 | betrayd | when I tried pasting |
| 14:15.59 | betrayd | with right click, dvtm did a minimize |
| 14:16.17 | betrayd | this is my alt nick |
| 14:16.18 | Thanatermesis | so the problem was the font ? |
| 14:16.29 | betrayd | yes, if you look closely |
| 14:16.41 | Thanatermesis | betrayd, use that font better :) http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/desktop-matrixized.jpg |
| 14:16.44 | betrayd | the mc is messed up even with regular 9x15 |
| 14:18.21 | betrayd | i saw this, with the 'encryption' lol |
| 14:18.34 | Thanatermesis | maybe you will go faster by a clean reinstall :) |
| 14:20.18 | betrayd | there was one where i saw the font was available as a synaptic d/load? |
| 14:22.35 | betrayd | at least the old cplay is still crankin' |
| 14:26.51 | she_dyed | thats the last time i use mousebutton on dvtm |
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| 14:55.29 | DronAn[BY] | Whf? |
| 14:56.18 | Thanatermesis | netsplit aparently |
| 14:56.54 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, why you don't like jabber? :) |
| 14:58.12 | Thanatermesis | who has tell that i dont like it ? |
| 14:58.46 | DronAn[BY] | ) Ðо jabber client included in Elive :) |
| 14:59.17 | DronAn[BY] | *No |
| 15:01.58 | Thanatermesis | no ? |
| 15:02.01 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install gajim |
| 15:02.14 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache search jabber |
| 15:03.08 | DronAn[BY] | )) |
| 15:03.57 | DronAn[BY] | May be include Psi? |
| 15:04.30 | DronAn[BY] | it's QTbased |
| 15:05.36 | Thanatermesis | nothing qt by default in Elive :) |
| 15:05.56 | DronAn[BY] | aaa. Ok :) |
| 15:06.04 | Thanatermesis | but you can install it, of course |
| 15:06.11 | DronAn[BY] | I'm ) |
| 15:14.17 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: in synaptic is there a way to list the ones in apt-cache? |
| 15:14.27 | she_dyed | so that we can pick and choose? |
| 15:14.57 | Thanatermesis | idk she_dyed, i never use it :) |
| 15:15.06 | Thanatermesis | it is on Elive just for the end-users... i used only cli mode |
| 15:15.20 | she_dyed | lol i thought i was the only one not using it |
| 15:15.22 | Thanatermesis | or even "aptitude" if i want a gui |
| 15:17.07 | she_dyed | if i get that freetype-matrix only the japanese can read it :) ? |
| 15:17.21 | keyra | she_dyed: Elive in japanese ? Have a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
| 15:18.52 | Thanatermesis | it is not japanese she_dyed ! :) |
| 15:19.46 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, but i like a lot more the original version of that font that i have made very years ago, it is for console mode only, see the package console-matrix-font |
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| 16:37.43 | Elive_user46_de | hello |
| 16:38.01 | Elive_user46_de | where do I find the source code for the elive installer? |
| 16:40.39 | Elive_user46_de | hello ? |
| 16:40.46 | Elive_user46_de | any1 home? |
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| 17:15.25 | Thanatermesis | keyra, apt upgrade dist-upgrade elive <--- Pacma |
| 17:15.39 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 17:15.43 | Thanatermesis | apt x en es if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 17:15.50 | Thanatermesis | Pacma, ^^^ |
| 17:15.57 | keyra | Thanatermesis: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 17:16.25 | Thanatermesis | Pacma, ^^^ |
| 17:16.49 | Pacma | ok |
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| 19:03.26 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: the mc workaround (its in their FAQ) is the -a parameter |
| 19:03.52 | she_dyed | I'm sure that unicode thing has caused untold suffering to users worldwide |
| 19:05.02 | she_dyed | annoys neighbours with Hall and Oates - Some Things Better Left Unsaid |
| 19:11.43 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, it doesnt happens to me, maybe your mc doesn't detects the utf8 encoding ? |
| 19:12.29 | she_dyed | is yours in a urxvt term? mine is... |
| 19:12.36 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 19:12.48 | Thanatermesis | what shows the command "locale" to you ? |
| 19:13.02 | Thanatermesis | like i say, maybe a simple reinstallation will fix you a lot of problems :) |
| 19:13.07 | she_dyed | the screenshot on the bottom right |
| 19:13.24 | she_dyed | or replace an old partition here |
| 19:15.01 | Thanatermesis | well, the upgrade mode of the installer will save you a lot of things |
| 19:15.07 | Thanatermesis | users, password,s their files, configurations... |
| 19:15.56 | she_dyed | what would you use to test the webcam? other than amsn? mplayer? |
| 19:17.36 | twiggz | xawtv |
| 19:18.27 | she_dyed | hey if thats on the liveCD... |
| 19:18.49 | Thanatermesis | mplayer -fps 15 tv:// |
| 19:18.53 | Thanatermesis | but not works with all the cams |
| 19:18.55 | Thanatermesis | try cheeze |
| 19:18.58 | Thanatermesis | or cheese, not sure |
| 19:19.14 | Thanatermesis | livecd ? apt-get install it :) |
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| 19:19.50 | she_dyed | ok sounds like a plan |
| 19:23.06 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, saw the screen? |
| 19:24.02 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], yes, i know, the font of the Elive e17 theme needs to be fixed |
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| 19:24.03 | Thanatermesis | the Elive e17 theme needs a big update :) |
| 19:24.56 | DronAn[BY] | But i think those notifications Must be only on English ( for Russian at least) |
| 19:25.18 | DronAn[BY] | And i didn't send translations for it |
| 19:25.47 | DronAn[BY] | Can we fix it? |
| 19:25.54 | she_dyed | thank god i thought i was the onlyone with font problems heh |
| 19:26.04 | DronAn[BY] | ) |
| 19:26.19 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], the font of the e17 theme doens't support your chars, thats all the problem |
| 19:26.25 | DronAn[BY] | she_dyed, it's not console fonts )) |
| 19:26.27 | Thanatermesis | we dont need another language, we need these chars :) |
| 19:26.33 | she_dyed | grrrr |
| 19:26.36 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], try to change the e17 theme to the default e17 one |
| 19:29.57 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], i have added a note in the task about the e17 theme to make a special look at the e17 font, so that i can't forget it :) |
| 19:30.09 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], tell me if the default e17 theme made the font working correctly |
| 19:30.23 | Thanatermesis | the theme "illume" or "default", not sure now |
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| 19:32.15 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, default theme don't have this problems |
| 19:32.27 | Thanatermesis | so, it works, right ? |
| 19:32.57 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 19:33.17 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, look, it was all good before 1.9.31. This notification was on English and it is perfect |
| 19:34.58 | DronAn[BY] | Can you just remove RU translations for Logout,Reboot, Hibernation and so on (for this notifications)? |
| 19:35.18 | DronAn[BY] | And it will just perfect |
| 19:35.31 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], this means that somebody has send a translation to your language, thats's GOOD! but you can't see it due to the buggy e17 Elive theme |
| 19:35.35 | Thanatermesis | so use the e17 default theme instead :) |
| 19:35.56 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], no, that's not the way to solve it, we need to solve it correctly, but we need to be patient :) |
| 19:36.44 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, it's no annoying me. And i like this theme so much )) |
| 19:36.53 | Thanatermesis | the Elive theme ? |
| 19:36.58 | DronAn[BY] | Yes |
| 19:37.00 | Thanatermesis | thanks :) |
| 19:37.09 | Thanatermesis | well, the thing is that it needs to be fixed |
| 19:37.29 | DronAn[BY] | But for this moment, can you just remove this translations? |
| 19:37.38 | Thanatermesis | no, sorry :/ |
| 19:37.58 | Thanatermesis | this is double-work, i will be faster by directly fixing the problem |
| 19:37.58 | she_dyed | DronAn[BY]: you had to turn off which theme? |
| 19:39.00 | she_dyed | DronAn[BY]: send a few beers to Thanatermesis and he might be 'persuaded' |
| 19:39.02 | DronAn[BY] | I hadn't )) From Elive theme ) |
| 19:39.18 | she_dyed | or even better $$$ |
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| 19:40.20 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, Is there another way? To add for this font cyrllic support? ) |
| 19:41.04 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, or a bunch of developers :) |
| 19:41.22 | DronAn[BY] | )) |
| 19:41.23 | Thanatermesis | see, microsoft has trillions of developers and is a crappy system |
| 19:41.51 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], do you know EDJE (from EFL) ? |
| 19:42.05 | DronAn[BY] | No. sorry ( |
| 19:42.05 | Thanatermesis | <DronAn[BY]> Thanatermesis, Is there another way? To add for this font cyrllic support? ) |
| 19:42.07 | Thanatermesis | oh well yes |
| 19:42.13 | Thanatermesis | you can configure the font in e17 :) |
| 19:42.15 | Thanatermesis | see your e17 preferences |
| 19:42.26 | she_dyed | you know how some people say, what a waste of brain power, they could be curing cancer |
| 19:42.43 | she_dyed | i say tell that to Microsoft |
| 19:43.21 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, from Elpanel? |
| 19:44.13 | Thanatermesis | i hope no she_dyed... if they try to curing cancer like they does software, we will see a ton of new diseases |
| 19:44.29 | she_dyed | ROFL! |
| 19:44.37 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], no, from your e17 menu -> preferences |
| 19:46.21 | DronAn[BY] | It's changed |
| 19:46.34 | DronAn[BY] | I'm using Sans |
| 19:46.51 | DronAn[BY] | You can see it on the screen |
| 19:49.50 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis, ok what of the name of default E17 font in Elive? And where it is? |
| 19:50.26 | DronAn[BY] | /usr/share? |
| 19:50.54 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 19:50.56 | Thanatermesis | its in the theme |
| 19:51.04 | Thanatermesis | i can change the conf of e17 in Elive but... stills a lot of work |
| 19:51.08 | Thanatermesis | better to fix the problem directly |
| 19:51.09 | Thanatermesis | just, no time now |
| 19:51.19 | Thanatermesis | its listed on the tasks to do for 2.0 so.. we need just to wait |
| 19:51.51 | DronAn[BY] | Ok. I just try to help :) |
| 19:52.16 | DronAn[BY] | *ed |
| 19:52.17 | DronAn[BY] | ) |
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| 19:53.27 | DronAn[BY] | But anyway it wasn't this problem before 1.9.31 )) |
| 19:57.01 | Thanatermesis | because that translation was not existed maybe :) |
| 19:57.26 | DronAn[BY] | And look. I think it was Ñonfusion about that report (425) |
| 20:01.08 | DronAn[BY] | Thanatermesis> because that translation was not existed maybe :) Then remove those 4-5 lines in transations )) |
| 20:02.20 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], no, that's not the way to solve it :) |
| 20:03.14 | DronAn[BY] | I see the way. It is add cyrillic for this font ) |
| 20:03.55 | Thanatermesis | exactly, or to fix the e17 Elive theme |
| 20:04.15 | DronAn[BY] | Theme is perfect |
| 20:04.25 | Thanatermesis | no, its buggy :) |
| 20:04.32 | Thanatermesis | old, and incomplete |
| 20:04.38 | DronAn[BY] | :( |
| 20:04.59 | Thanatermesis | hopes that if the theme changes to something looking "better", the users will still liking it |
| 20:05.08 | DronAn[BY] | Where can i get this font? Can you pass it to me? |
| 20:05.37 | Thanatermesis | which font ? |
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| 20:05.45 | DronAn[BY] | E17 default |
| 20:06.23 | DronAn[BY] | or what's font it using? |
| 20:07.36 | Thanatermesis | sans i think, not sure |
| 20:07.37 | DronAn[BY] | And anyway, if change to better one, that include and this theme too. |
| 20:07.52 | DronAn[BY] | Not sans. |
| 20:08.06 | DronAn[BY] | i think |
| 20:08.10 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY], don't worry, i will fix it, just that i can't do it now |
| 20:08.30 | DronAn[BY] | ok |
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| 21:56.10 | _klamath_ | installed new kernel 2.6.29 but wrong keyboard layout, changed from elpanel and it is ok for this session, when I reboot again wrong layout any idea |
| 21:58.11 | _klamath_ | tried with kbd-config too, but this doesn`t works at all |
| 21:59.24 | DronAn[BY] | edit it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:06.32 | _klamath_ | ok, I had and have the same problem in level 3 with consolles, do you know about change it there too ? |
| 22:06.46 | keyra | _klamath_: Don't be shy! Just ask. :) |
| 22:09.45 | _klamath_ | keyra, from what did you think I'm shy ? :) |
| 22:10.00 | keyra | _klamath_: argentina! |
| 22:10.25 | _klamath_ | ok and why did you think I'm shy ? :) |
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| 23:25.49 | Thanatermesis | spank keyra |
| 23:26.03 | keyra | Thanatermesis: with a black mask and a whip ? =) |
| 23:26.15 | Thanatermesis | ok there's a few problems with xorg and keyboards on the last isos, i will upload a new ISO for tomorrow if my upload permits it |
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| 23:28.27 | elmo40 | wasynyt_: !!!!!!! |
| 23:28.37 | elmo40 | i was in Finland, but no way to get a hold of you... |
| 23:30.16 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: pong |
| 23:30.26 | elmo40 | bad storm, power may fail... |
| 23:30.28 | Thanatermesis | ping deprecated |
| 23:30.28 | ktaho | Thanatermesis: . |
| 23:30.32 | LinuxNIT | Finland aye |
| 23:30.38 | Thanatermesis | ktaho, · | |
| 23:32.26 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, you pinged me about something a while back... remeber what it was? |
| 23:42.43 | elmo40 | ha |
| 23:42.44 | elmo40 | no |
| 23:42.51 | elmo40 | prob going to ask how life is treating ya |
| 23:43.03 | LinuxNIT | pretty good so far :) |
| 23:43.04 | elmo40 | possibly where is the latest smb-admin ;) |
| 23:43.07 | LinuxNIT | and you |
| 23:43.16 | elmo40 | came back from Estonia yesterday :) |
| 23:43.21 | elmo40 | too short of a trip |
| 23:43.28 | elmo40 | but the women are HOT!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:43.34 | LinuxNIT | :-D |
| 23:43.38 | elmo40 | not so much in Helsinki, though... sorry wasynyt_ |
| 23:45.33 | elmo40 | and? smb-admin?? |
| 23:45.34 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 23:45.45 | LinuxNIT | you like that program dont ya |
| 23:45.54 | elmo40 | it was clean and simple |
| 23:46.02 | elmo40 | plus, my name was in there ;) |
| 23:46.12 | LinuxNIT | i havent changed it much... but i added a smb-usershare to it |
| 23:46.19 | LinuxNIT | a small side program |
| 23:47.20 | LinuxNIT | do you still have it? |
| 23:49.52 | elmo40 | made many new computers since then. |
| 23:50.04 | elmo40 | plus updated Elive numerous times ;) |
| 23:50.11 | LinuxNIT | so thats a no? |
| 23:52.10 | elmo40 | i do not. |
| 23:52.21 | LinuxNIT | ok well ill get a tar file for the latest this evening... sometime |
| 23:52.29 | LinuxNIT | at the moment... dinner is served |
| 23:53.10 | elmo40 | take your time |
| 23:53.17 | elmo40 | post it somehwere and let me dl it later |
| 23:53.25 | elmo40 | my ex is calling for a 'favour'... |
| 23:53.31 | LinuxNIT | the last versions are still up at linuxnit.braker.com |
| 23:54.39 | elmo40 | and this one wont be? |
