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| 00:25.57 | elmo40 | pivot? |
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| 01:03.01 | Mobi23232 | pivot is function for some Displays, that let you simply turn the display in 90degrees |
| 01:03.09 | elmo40 | i see |
| 01:03.20 | elmo40 | so if you have a widescreen but use it for photo displays. |
| 01:03.28 | elmo40 | and rotate it on the wall |
| 01:03.33 | elmo40 | you pivot the output? |
| 01:04.11 | Mobi23232 | nah... like this |
| 01:04.12 | Mobi23232 | http://todaygadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/acer_p223wbdh.jpg |
| 01:04.41 | Mobi23232 | But there arent many displays that support this |
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| 01:20.17 | Mobi23232 | Good-Night everyone. |
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| 01:53.09 | elmo40 | man, i can not for the life of me figure out women!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:53.11 | elmo40 | :P |
| 01:53.49 | elmo40 | os[Linux 2.6.26-2-686 - Debian 5.0.2] up[ 17 days, 9 hours, 12 minutes] cpu[Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz, 2793.124 MHz (5592.07 bogomips)] mem[ 846.91/979.25 MB (86.5%)] video[ at ( bits)] |
| 01:54.03 | keyra | elmo40: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 02:09.26 | Thanatermesis | uploading 1.9.35 |
| 02:25.47 | p1asma | Thanatermesis: finally new kernel, or what kind of changes? |
| 02:26.51 | elmo40 | new kernel? :P |
| 02:26.52 | elmo40 | ha |
| 02:26.56 | p1asma | the update frequency in the last time is a bit short |
| 02:26.57 | elmo40 | not for a LONG time. |
| 02:27.07 | p1asma | i yesterday loaded 1.9.34 |
| 02:27.21 | p1asma | it takes me 2,5 hours to load 700mb |
| 02:27.27 | p1asma | and i cant do anything then |
| 02:27.28 | Thanatermesis | updated aufs and a few of fixes |
| 02:27.28 | Thanatermesis | aufs has looked very buggy recently with the installer |
| 02:28.16 | p1asma | aufs?? |
| 02:28.28 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 02:28.28 | Thanatermesis | well, there's no difference that i will upload 1 iso per week than 1 iso per day |
| 02:28.41 | Thanatermesis | after a week, there will be the same changes :) |
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| 02:29.28 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, p1asma, apt-get install xbmc |
| 02:29.38 | p1asma | im not on elive |
| 02:29.40 | elmo40 | repairs? |
| 02:29.43 | p1asma | and i wonder if i will be again |
| 02:29.54 | p1asma | because there is netboot and such for all other distributions |
| 02:30.05 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: how long before the mirrors populate with the new iso? |
| 02:30.22 | p1asma | i wonder if its worth to deal with the quirks of elive |
| 02:31.09 | Thanatermesis | oh ok |
| 02:31.29 | p1asma | maybe i will wait for 2.0 or create my own distro |
| 02:31.57 | p1asma | but these to often changes and bugs are not dealable |
| 02:32.25 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: ? any idea? |
| 02:32.36 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, i dont think that it will be "compatible" |
| 02:32.36 | Thanatermesis | netboots if im not wrong (like the debian one), is for install |
| 02:32.36 | Thanatermesis | so, download packages -> install them |
| 02:32.36 | Thanatermesis | Elive depends of the live mode |
| 02:32.37 | Thanatermesis | so with a netboot, you will need to run an entire live session (700 mb) |
| 02:32.50 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 02:33.10 | p1asma | Thanatermesis: same when i boot it from cd, where is the difference |
| 02:33.10 | p1asma | ? |
| 02:33.28 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, ok well, you can use ubuntu instead, that has around 1 or maybe 2 features added per release :) |
| 02:33.28 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, wheres the problem to have MORE features and MORE fixes, faster ? :] |
| 02:33.48 | p1asma | the problem is my dsl-line |
| 02:33.59 | p1asma | and that i need a stable, productive system |
| 02:34.08 | p1asma | this is why i loaded normal development now and not compiz |
| 02:34.19 | p1asma | but now 1 day! after i loaded it there is a new iso |
| 02:34.23 | elmo40 | i dont use compiz |
| 02:34.28 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, mmh, 1 hour per the check and another hour per the sync, so 2 hours + my upload (3 hours), aprox |
| 02:34.30 | p1asma | which i have to load 2,5 hours for |
| 02:34.37 | elmo40 | p1asma: ya, that happens! it is BETA, not Stable! |
| 02:34.40 | p1asma | and i can only read newssites during that time |
| 02:34.45 | p1asma | because my line is filled up |
| 02:35.03 | p1asma | elmo40: yeah, but there are more stable and better managed beta |
| 02:35.05 | p1asma | s |
| 02:35.28 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, i repeat, netboot of debian download and install packages... so you wil leave your computer all the night downloading them and tomorrow continue with hte installation, Elive depends of the live mode so you will need to download the 700 entire mb in order to boot it, so theres no difference to simply download it and put it on a usb for run it |
| 02:35.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 02:36.16 | Thanatermesis | <p1asma> and that i need a stable, productive system |
| 02:36.16 | Thanatermesis | <p1asma> this is why i loaded normal development now and not compiz |
| 02:36.16 | Thanatermesis | so keep your development version |
| 02:36.16 | Thanatermesis | its is pretty stable |
| 02:36.28 | Thanatermesis | but im dont want to be the culpable that you will read a supa-dupa-nice-feature on the changelog and think "i want iiiiiiiiittt !" |
| 02:36.30 | p1asma | Thanatermesis: as i told you, usb is no possibility |
| 02:36.43 | p1asma | i ruined my mp3 player with your fuckin unetbootbin |
| 02:36.51 | p1asma | :/ |
| 02:37.31 | elmo40 | you tried to install via a mp3-player USB ???? |
| 02:37.57 | p1asma | well, the mp3 player is handled like any other usb-stick, as removable media |
| 02:38.06 | p1asma | the problem is that the OS of the player seems to be hacked |
| 02:38.11 | keyra | p1asma: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 02:38.13 | p1asma | and the partition seems to be dynamic |
| 02:38.20 | p1asma | and now its kinda wasted |
| 02:38.28 | Thanatermesis | p1asma, well, so keep your actual development version, and wait a month and then think if you want to update or still continuing your development version |
| 02:38.28 | Thanatermesis | or keep it and wait 2.0 |
| 02:38.28 | Thanatermesis | dont has made unetbootin |
| 02:38.28 | Thanatermesis | you shoudl use a normal usb stick |
| 02:38.32 | Thanatermesis | and read forum about how to re-format it again correctly |
| 02:38.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) |
| 02:38.45 | Thanatermesis | for example, this one, p1asma http://www.misticriver.net/forums/iriver-s10-n10-series-flash-players/55384-file-system-damage.html |
| 02:39.02 | p1asma | well, i think this is not comparable |
| 02:39.10 | p1asma | because the phillips mp3 player i have is special |
| 02:39.13 | Thanatermesis | sure ? |
| 02:39.16 | p1asma | you dont have to unmount it or something |
| 02:39.21 | p1asma | yeah not sure, its a fact |
| 02:39.56 | Thanatermesis | the thing is |
| 02:40.28 | Thanatermesis | fat partitions (specially fat16) are pretty buggy |
| 02:40.45 | Thanatermesis | so your mp3 doesn't recognize a non-buggy one |
| 02:40.45 | Thanatermesis | you need to fill up it with zeroes and then reformat it from a windows with a buggy format again |
| 02:41.09 | Thanatermesis | with a command like "format h: /q /FS:FAT /x" |
| 02:41.24 | p1asma | well, its fat32 actually, and i didnt delete the partition |
| 02:41.28 | Thanatermesis | you need a buggy filesystem p1asma :) your player is windozed |
| 02:41.50 | p1asma | first i created an extra partition at the end of the free space |
| 02:41.58 | p1asma | fat32, bootable |
| 02:42.06 | p1asma | wasnt recognized, didnt work |
| 02:42.25 | p1asma | then i deleted the partition and it worked again flawlessy |
| 02:42.35 | p1asma | then i wrote with unetbootbin into the existing one |
| 02:42.39 | p1asma | didnt work |
| 02:42.44 | p1asma | made it bootable |
| 02:42.46 | p1asma | didnt work |
| 02:43.45 | p1asma | Thanatermesis: my player isnt windozed, its actually very picky about OSs |
| 02:43.54 | p1asma | not very picky |
| 02:44.16 | Thanatermesis | you should have dumped an image of the full mp3 disk before to do anything |
| 02:44.16 | Thanatermesis | in order to recover it in case that will fail |
| 02:44.16 | Thanatermesis | and you should have used a simple usb stick, not a player |
| 02:44.18 | Thanatermesis | try what i say |
| 02:45.35 | p1asma | well, normally mp3s players have an option to format the flash memory again |
| 02:45.53 | p1asma | i didnt check that first because i thought thats standard |
| 02:45.59 | p1asma | but as i told you, my one is special |
| 02:46.14 | Thanatermesis | is not windozed ? which filesystem use ? is not fat16/32 ? |
| 02:46.14 | Thanatermesis | like almost all the players in the world |
| 02:46.14 | Thanatermesis | except ipods |
| 02:47.03 | p1asma | it displays if you can disconnect it from the computer on the display all the time, i dont have to disconnect it in windows or in linux, its a kinda hacked OS or FS, you know? |
| 02:47.25 | p1asma | its fat32, but that doesnt means it is windozed to me |
| 02:47.58 | Thanatermesis | well, no matters |
| 02:48.26 | Thanatermesis | search forums of your mp3 where talks about fucked up partitions |
| 02:48.53 | p1asma | well, no i to lazy for that, its just broken now |
| 02:48.58 | Thanatermesis | so it will explain how to reformat/recover it |
| 02:49.00 | p1asma | google isnt that was it was before |
| 02:49.56 | Thanatermesis | ¿ |
| 02:50.58 | Thanatermesis | so you dont want to repair it ? |
| 02:51.04 | Thanatermesis | away: sufficient work for today |
| 02:51.11 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: enjoy |
| 03:03.02 | icarus_ | whats up Thanatermesis |
| 03:03.09 | icarus_ | hows developement coming along? |
| 03:07.11 | elmo40 | icarus_: he left ;) |
| 03:07.18 | elmo40 | enough for one day... |
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| 03:31.19 | teletuby | holaa |
| 03:31.33 | keyra | teletuby: que tal ? |
| 03:31.34 | teletuby | alguien habla español? |
| 03:31.57 | teletuby | keira hablas español? |
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| 04:13.41 | Elive_user48 | hola |
| 04:13.55 | keyra | Elive_user48: que tal ? |
| 04:13.57 | Elive_user48 | hay alguien aqui |
| 04:14.07 | Elive_user48 | hola |
| 04:14.29 | Elive_user48 | como te llamas?? |
| 04:49.05 | Elive_user48 | que pasa?? |
| 04:49.10 | Elive_user48 | no hay nadie??? |
| 04:52.05 | Everbill | hey |
| 04:52.08 | Everbill | digan algo |
| 05:15.29 | LinuxNIT | elmo40, if you downloaded that tar file it has a currupt file in it.... redownload it |
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| 06:49.56 | wasynyt_eee | good morning people |
| 06:51.43 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt_eee |
| 06:51.51 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing AlexAnteMachina |
| 06:51.55 | AlexAnteMachina | quite well. |
| 06:52.06 | wasynyt_eee | hasnt been here for awhile |
| 06:52.06 | AlexAnteMachina | just got up, had a shower. |
| 06:52.38 | wasynyt_eee | nice |
| 06:52.47 | AlexAnteMachina | Now I need to make some Dogfood ready and go for a walk with my hairy Monster. |
| 06:53.00 | wasynyt_eee | heh.. |
| 06:54.11 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_eee, 1.9.35 is out! |
| 06:54.15 | wasynyt_eee | yeah |
| 06:54.19 | wasynyt_eee | i have noticed |
| 06:54.56 | AlexAnteMachina | Thana told me he's about to release a new compiz-version, too. |
| 06:55.11 | wasynyt_eee | nice |
| 06:59.04 | AlexAnteMachina | where did you hide, wasynyt_eee ? |
| 07:01.38 | wasynyt_eee | i have been a little busy.. or so i have made myself believe |
| 07:02.24 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... okay. |
| 07:02.31 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 07:02.40 | AlexAnteMachina | Hey is your eeepc still "naked"? |
| 07:02.45 | wasynyt_eee | ? |
| 07:03.14 | AlexAnteMachina | Is it still in the Condition it came in? |
| 07:03.36 | wasynyt_eee | more or less.. it has had its share of life.. ut otherwise unmodified |
| 07:03.40 | wasynyt_eee | *but |
| 07:03.57 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 07:04.03 | wasynyt_eee | why are you asking |
| 07:04.07 | AlexAnteMachina | how about something like that: |
| 07:05.03 | AlexAnteMachina | http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexantemachina/3650631206 |
| 07:05.33 | wasynyt_eee | nice covers |
| 07:06.31 | AlexAnteMachina | it's one of verdegal37's themes |
| 07:06.39 | wasynyt_eee | ok |
| 07:06.52 | wasynyt_eee | looks nice.. and fits the eee quite well |
| 07:07.00 | wasynyt_eee | does elive run well on your eee |
| 07:07.14 | AlexAnteMachina | it does, yes. |
| 07:07.25 | wasynyt_eee | all the fn keys work and stuff? |
| 07:07.36 | AlexAnteMachina | Only bluetooth is still a pain. |
| 07:07.49 | wasynyt_eee | bluetooth on linux can be a pain |
| 07:07.54 | AlexAnteMachina | fn-keys... hmm,... dont remember. |
| 07:08.30 | AlexAnteMachina | well, I need to leave now. |
| 07:08.40 | AlexAnteMachina | I'll be back in about 2 hours. |
| 07:08.44 | wasynyt_eee | see you later |
| 07:08.55 | AlexAnteMachina | checking those fn-keys then. |
| 07:08.57 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 07:09.00 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
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| 07:20.11 | wasynyt_eee | good morning Spami|Thug |
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| 09:00.17 | AlexAnteMachina | hey wasynyt_eee |
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| 09:14.19 | p1asma | hey alex |
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| 09:35.12 | wasynyt | good afternoon AlexAnteMachina |
| 09:36.13 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 09:36.28 | AlexAnteMachina | I need to reboot.... |
| 09:55.43 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, ping |
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| 10:11.11 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: pong |
| 10:12.48 | Thanatermesis | i was though about announce this 1.9.35 but i think that im not going to do it |
| 10:15.19 | elmo40 | do you 'have' to announce it? |
| 10:15.34 | elmo40 | just have a changelog ;) |
| 10:15.39 | elmo40 | makes your life more simple |
| 10:19.38 | Thanatermesis | yes, i have to announce it |
| 10:27.26 | elmo40 | is there a console version of gobby? |
| 10:27.26 | elmo40 | i dont have X on this machine |
| 10:27.31 | keyra | elmo40: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's |
| 10:32.11 | Thanatermesis | i dont think so |
| 10:32.22 | Thanatermesis | it depends of its gtk interface |
| 10:33.49 | elmo40 | then sorry, cant help at the moment |
| 10:33.54 | elmo40 | i may in 1hour, though |
| 10:33.59 | elmo40 | will have access to a laptop |
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| 10:40.11 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, ping |
| 10:40.14 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt_, ping |
| 10:41.40 | AlexAnteMachina | hibernation and screen-brightness fn-keys working well. |
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| 11:02.07 | Thanatop | assasukasse, ping |
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| 11:05.50 | elmo40 | turbovomit? >_< |
| 11:06.06 | TurboVomit | hi |
| 11:06.09 | TurboVomit | o/ |
| 11:06.18 | elmo40 | odd nick |
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| 11:06.57 | TurboVomit | Thanatermesis, hi, i got a ext3 partition :) |
| 11:07.10 | TurboVomit | Thanks! |
| 11:07.13 | Thanatermesis | np :) |
| 11:11.21 | elmo40 | ext3? so... what about ext4? |
| 11:12.11 | Thanatermesis | for the next kernel |
| 11:13.01 | elmo40 | 2.0? |
| 11:13.03 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 11:13.15 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 11:29.53 | elmo40 | have you played with ext4? |
| 11:30.03 | elmo40 | many people say it is so much faster then ext3 |
| 11:30.52 | Thanatermesis | likes more reiserfs for speed :) |
| 11:31.51 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, can you boot any computer with a CD (not usb) of Elive ? |
| 11:32.05 | keyra | Thanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 11:32.12 | Thanatermesis | s/any/one |
| 11:34.03 | elmo40 | right now? |
| 11:34.04 | elmo40 | sure |
| 11:34.10 | elmo40 | lenovo T60 laptop |
| 11:34.47 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 11:35.10 | Thanatermesis | when you have your system booted, show me a http://pastie.org/pastes/new of: dmesg | grep -i error | grep "I/O" |
| 11:35.24 | keyra | Thanatermesis: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb |
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| 11:42.03 | elmo40 | with new iso? |
| 11:42.07 | elmo40 | i need to dl it still ;) |
| 11:42.16 | Ychoucha | hello |
| 11:42.18 | elmo40 | and... find a CD! |
| 11:42.30 | Ychoucha | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.54 | Ychoucha | bevaus i have burne it on many cd and no work |
| 11:52.05 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, any recent one is OK |
| 11:52.33 | Thanatermesis | usb boot elive |
| 11:52.47 | keyra | Thanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 11:52.48 | Thanatermesis | Ychoucha, ^^ |
| 11:53.24 | elmo40 | hrmm, my mutt isnt working |
| 11:53.32 | elmo40 | says the folder is not a mail folder :P |
| 11:53.41 | Thanatermesis | sounds bad |
| 11:53.48 | Ychoucha | Thanatermesis, yes maybe my cd sucks, or my lecteur DVD |
| 11:53.49 | Thanatermesis | check your directory |
| 11:53.54 | Thanatermesis | there's no folders on linux, elmo40 :) |
| 11:53.58 | elmo40 | lol |
| 11:54.02 | keyra | Ychoucha: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 11:54.10 | elmo40 | mailbox |
| 11:54.12 | elmo40 | :/ |
| 11:54.30 | Thanatermesis | Ychoucha, its a lot more stable and fast to boot from usb |
| 11:54.52 | Thanatermesis | keyra, that's a good sentence for the non-reporters like elmo40 :) |
| 11:55.12 | Ychoucha | i know, but this system have two problems, first need a USB key, and second, i can have french on boot it |
| 11:55.25 | Ychoucha | but it 's better than a cd |
| 11:55.26 | keyra | Ychoucha: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb |
| 11:55.57 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: how do i set up mutt? it didnt work like i have done before... |
| 11:56.35 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, idk, i have never really used it |
| 11:56.57 | Thanatermesis | Ychoucha, you can have french boot if you follow the keyra's tutorial |
| 11:57.07 | Thanatermesis | usb keys are cheap :) |
| 11:57.21 | Thanatermesis | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233070 |
| 11:57.24 | Thanatermesis | this is a very nice one |
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| 11:58.56 | Ychoucha | thnaks Thanatermesis but this is cheap |
| 11:59.05 | Ychoucha | i will bought a key 2GO to 5 euros |
| 11:59.50 | Thanatermesis | Ychoucha, yes, but this is one of the best ones :) also very fast, so you want to boot Elive in less than 3 seconds right ? :) |
| 12:00.02 | Ychoucha | yes |
| 12:00.11 | Thanatermesis | you won't pay a few bucks more for the best one ? |
| 12:00.20 | Ychoucha | but when u don't have monet u dn't have the fast |
| 12:00.35 | Thanatermesis | well, that's a good reason |
| 12:00.47 | Thanatermesis | do you smoke ? |
| 12:01.05 | Ychoucha | no |
| 12:01.25 | Thanatermesis | well, if you smoke, stop to smoke 2 days and you can have it :) |
| 12:01.42 | Ychoucha | lol but i don't smoke,and i have no job |
| 12:02.01 | Ychoucha | so i wait |
| 12:02.35 | Thanatermesis | you need to found a small job |
| 12:02.41 | Ychoucha | yes |
| 12:03.04 | Thanatermesis | and france is not a bad country for work |
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| 12:33.54 | darkstar | felice |
| 12:35.02 | darkstar | Hi there. Running 1.9.33. I'd like to know if I can upgrade OO to from 2.4 -> 3. eg: any other repositories I can add? |
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| 13:19.19 | elmo40 | 1.9.33? |
| 13:19.21 | elmo40 | that is OLD |
| 13:19.22 | elmo40 | :P |
| 13:19.39 | elmo40 | and no, OOo3 is not in the repo |
| 13:19.54 | elmo40 | you need to dl their .debs from their website |
| 13:20.35 | elmo40 | it does work, just doesnt load into the menu AND uses 'swrite/scalc...' instead of ocalc... |
| 13:21.45 | Thanatermesis | Elive needs to switch to squeeze... soon.... |
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| 13:26.40 | elmo40 | what is squeeze? |
| 13:26.45 | elmo40 | oh, Debian? |
| 13:26.59 | keyra | elmo40: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 13:27.53 | Thanatermesis | yes, debian testing |
| 13:29.47 | elmo40 | ya, after 2.0 |
| 13:29.51 | elmo40 | for 3.0 ;) |
| 13:30.04 | elmo40 | no release date for Squeeze. |
| 13:32.03 | Thanatermesis | the problem is that maybe for 2.0 will be expired |
| 13:32.04 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:32.17 | Thanatermesis | ah, no problem for the release date, Elive will stabilize it :) |
| 13:32.47 | Thanatermesis | my actual idea is to include 2 isos, with the same features and system, but one uses debian stable and the other debian testing (With new kernel too) |
| 13:39.32 | elmo40 | >_< |
| 13:39.38 | elmo40 | adding complication to yourself? |
| 13:39.42 | elmo40 | do you like torture? :P |
| 13:42.44 | elmo40 | you think it is stable enough to add squeeze repo? |
| 13:43.00 | Thanatermesis | well, not really |
| 13:43.12 | Thanatermesis | Elive NEEDS to move to squeeze (testing) |
| 13:43.20 | Thanatermesis | after or before to 2.0, so, no matters :) |
| 13:43.31 | Thanatermesis | the thing is that ppl don't want a 2.0 old and with old drivers |
| 13:43.40 | Thanatermesis | but may a few others want a very stable one |
| 13:43.46 | Thanatermesis | so, ill give both options |
| 13:44.28 | Thanatermesis | but for that, we need to remain with the stable repo of debian until 2.0 and then do a build with testing too, and put both on the release |
| 13:44.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 13:46.39 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: people want stable. if they want testing tell them to download the dev. |
| 13:46.43 | elmo40 | make 2.0 ONLY stable! |
| 13:47.01 | elmo40 | testing is everything else |
| 13:47.27 | elmo40 | i dont see why you would complicate things. no one else does it like that! if you begin doing it this way people will think you dont know what you are doing. |
| 13:49.01 | twiggz- | Not really, there are a few distributions based on unstable and testing. |
| 13:50.11 | elmo40 | such as? |
| 13:50.18 | elmo40 | nothing 'large' |
| 13:50.38 | elmo40 | suse, buntu, fedora. they are not |
| 13:50.42 | twiggz- | ....for the most part every distribution of linux on distrowatch is not "large" |
| 13:50.55 | twiggz- | out of all of them, a few of them are "large" |
| 13:51.14 | twiggz- | So I fail to see how that matters at all. |
| 13:53.28 | twiggz- | and if we are talking about debian testing and unstable, what the hell does suse and fedora have to do with them anyway? they obviously are not based on debian testing or unstable CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. |
| 13:54.53 | twiggz- | omg neither is freebsd?! are you serious?! lololol |
| 13:55.22 | elmo40 | i was making a point |
| 13:55.44 | elmo40 | none of the larger distros mix stable and testing when they make a release |
| 13:55.47 | elmo40 | they offer stable |
| 13:55.58 | elmo40 | testing is seperate |
| 13:56.21 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, but stable means also drivers support, this kernel is too old, and i cant update it until i move to testing |
| 13:56.30 | twiggz- | I did not say anything about mixing the two. |
| 13:57.43 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: i understand |
| 13:57.49 | elmo40 | do what you think is best for you |
| 13:57.52 | elmo40 | twiggz-: |
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| 13:59.45 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, this is why i say, to release 2.0 AS Elive/Debian stable, but also another ISO based on debian testing instead of debian stable |
| 13:59.55 | Thanatermesis | Elive is not only "stable" by debian, is also stable by Elive |
| 14:00.00 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 14:00.03 | Thanatermesis | and Elive now is pretty complete/stable |
| 14:00.15 | Thanatermesis | but if i start changing things on elive, it will come unstable/testing |
| 14:00.30 | Thanatermesis | so, another iso with debian testing and Elive stable as Elive stable release |
| 14:00.43 | Thanatermesis | thinks that is more confusing to explain than to know how it works :) |
| 14:01.15 | Thanatermesis | btw, i just updated a 1.9.35 version of Elive to squeeze and it works very good, the configuration to forcely maintain Elive packages works wonderfully :) |
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| 14:13.23 | darkstar | waddaya mean 1.9.33 is old?? :p |
| 14:13.50 | darkstar | this was tha latest iso available for me to download.. |
| 14:21.24 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, ping |
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| 16:56.39 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: ok, i understand now |
| 16:56.53 | elmo40 | you want 2.0 Lenny & 2.0 Squeeze |
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| 18:25.06 | DronAn[BY] | Hi all |
| 18:25.22 | ma_tex | hi |
| 18:41.08 | DronAn[BY] | РкеÑе http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages |
| 18:41.08 | DronAn[BY] | 99% [Соединение Ñ europe.repository.elive-systems.com (81.93.244.2)]^C |
| 18:41.10 | DronAn[BY] | (( |
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| 18:41.41 | twiggz | Is the latest pidgin in backports? |
| 18:41.56 | twiggz | 2.4.3 refuses to connect to yahoo. |
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| 19:02.24 | elmo40 | 2.4.3? |
| 19:02.28 | elmo40 | 2.5.6 is latest, no? |
| 19:03.44 | elmo40 | just compile from source |
| 19:03.51 | elmo40 | i little bit of a pain... |
| 19:03.58 | elmo40 | twiggz: you can do it, i know you can ;) |
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| 19:55.14 | AlexAnteMachina | DronAn[BY], did you get a designSkin? |
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| 23:00.40 | she_dyed | !memo help |
| 23:03.00 | AlexAnteMachina | apt, give she_dyed a helping hand |
| 23:03.01 | apt | ACTION gives a helping hand to she_dyed |
| 23:03.38 | she_dyed | hey guys how do I do this, to reply |
| 23:04.00 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.22 | she_dyed | that way I can be the stalker not tha stalkee |
| 23:04.27 | AlexAnteMachina | ???? |
| 23:04.49 | she_dyed | i get that notice when I connect to freenode |
| 23:05.01 | she_dyed | almost like email without all the ads and junk and spam |
| 23:05.01 | AlexAnteMachina | diabetik, tell she_dyed she's a weird one. |
| 23:05.28 | AlexAnteMachina | i dont get it. |
| 23:05.53 | she_dyed | nobody has sent you memo like that ? |
| 23:06.04 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 23:06.05 | she_dyed | i know, because you have later and diabetik |
| 23:06.21 | AlexAnteMachina | i have what? |
| 23:06.47 | she_dyed | 'later tell thana' with diabetik |
| 23:06.51 | AlexAnteMachina | I neither have any diabetik nor a later around here |
| 23:07.02 | she_dyed | which works the same way |
| 23:07.07 | she_dyed | you showed me |
| 23:10.27 | she_dyed | almost HAD the iso working |
| 23:10.47 | she_dyed | an old elive iso without using CD, jus t loopback |
| 23:11.15 | AlexAnteMachina | loopback? |
| 23:11.43 | AlexAnteMachina | sounds to be above my level. |
| 23:12.27 | she_dyed | diskless so i can better response, now that its all hdd |
| 23:12.46 | she_dyed | but when it gets to yuch portion it craps into Busybox |
| 23:13.00 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 23:13.48 | she_dyed | i see all the bootup messages but it cant get a tty...I know! i'll copy the other utils from the CD |
| 23:14.38 | twiggz | motherfucker! |
| 23:14.48 | twiggz | this shit isnt working still. |
| 23:15.22 | twiggz | .35 no compiz version is stuck on the same shit as it was yesterday using the .32 compiz version |
| 23:16.09 | twiggz | slamr modem module shit error |
| 23:17.12 | twiggz | it works fine until it tries to "fine tune" the system. |
| 23:17.22 | twiggz | on first boot into the system |
| 23:17.30 | twiggz | any ideas? |
| 23:22.08 | she_dyed | the modem works fine when you use it Live? |
| 23:25.40 | twiggz | yes, the internet is fine using just the livecd |
| 23:34.38 | she_dyed | oh man i wouldn't know, otherwise i'd be blacklisting them one by one |
| 23:42.51 | twiggz | how to blacklist this slamr module that its talking shit about ? |
| 23:43.14 | twiggz | especially when the system goes right into the fine tuning before you can do anything ? |
| 23:44.33 | twiggz | opengeu looks like its going to install fine. |
| 23:46.01 | twiggz | opengeu now rebooting into the installed system |
| 23:46.03 | twiggz | we shall see |
| 23:46.36 | twiggz | hey, my elive machine works fine, i installed 1.9.30 a few weeks ago...it just wont install on my friends machine. |
| 23:47.19 | twiggz | we tried the .32 compiz version , the .35 no compiz version, hell, even dreamlinux 3.5 wouldnt install. |
| 23:47.24 | twiggz | opengeu just did though. |
| 23:47.33 | twiggz | lets see how it works when its done booting. |
| 23:48.48 | she_dyed | if not openGEu also try the macpup from pacpup.org. i dont think it's compiz thou |
| 23:51.37 | she_dyed | macpup.org |
| 23:55.13 | twiggz | opengeu didnt like the onboard NIC |
| 23:55.23 | twiggz | putting a spare pci nic in it now and rebooting |
| 23:55.35 | twiggz | had some problems with elive and the onboard nic too |
| 23:55.41 | twiggz | it picked it up SOMETIMES |
| 23:57.23 | twiggz | fixed |
