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| 01:02.28 | IndyGunFreak | whas happening my fellow elive-eteers.. :) |
| 01:03.06 | rebbi | all quiet here... just reinstalling elive... |
| 01:03.26 | IndyGunFreak | why? |
| 01:04.16 | rebbi | tried an upgrade install from the previous unstable and it broke xchat... no idea why... |
| 01:04.29 | rebbi | i'm running in live mode right nowl... |
| 01:04.29 | IndyGunFreak | chmm |
| 01:04.33 | IndyGunFreak | couldn't just reinstall it? |
| 01:04.40 | IndyGunFreak | or try another irc client |
| 01:04.49 | IndyGunFreak | xchat-gnome, konv, irssi, etc. |
| 01:05.06 | rebbi | no.... uninstalling and reinstalling xchat didn't fix it. It just won't launch |
| 01:05.15 | rebbi | weird! |
| 01:05.31 | IndyGunFreak | did you purge it? |
| 01:06.24 | IndyGunFreak | and installing another client would likely hav been an option.. there's 3-4 or in the repos. |
| 01:06.24 | rebbi | you mean uninstall completely in synaptic, including the config files? no, I didn't try that...you think that might help? |
| 01:06.36 | IndyGunFreak | if you're not already installing, it might. |
| 01:06.48 | IndyGunFreak | also, you could install xchat-gnome.. till you get the problem figured out |
| 01:06.51 | IndyGunFreak | its very similar to xchat |
| 01:07.06 | rebbi | not installing yet, no. Okay... let me reboot and try one of those alternatives, thanks. |
| 01:07.13 | IndyGunFreak | np |
| 01:07.29 | IndyGunFreak | basks in the glory of finally helping someone here... yipee! |
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| 01:13.43 | IndyGunFreak | lot of new users pop in here... |
| 01:18.58 | Elive_user34_en | indy: i'm back |
| 01:19.39 | rebbi | what was happening is that xchat was launching but as "lost windows..." |
| 01:19.43 | rebbi | what's that about? |
| 01:19.51 | IndyGunFreak | hmm |
| 01:20.02 | IndyGunFreak | did you accidentally mess up the launch line in the panel button? |
| 01:20.12 | IndyGunFreak | sorry, was screwing w/ wallpapers |
| 01:20.26 | keyra | IndyGunFreak: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 01:20.36 | rebbi | maybe... actually, i removed xchat from itask ng |
| 01:20.48 | IndyGunFreak | ok... |
| 01:20.53 | IndyGunFreak | so are you back here on the live cd? |
| 01:20.58 | IndyGunFreak | or are you on your install? |
| 01:21.11 | rebbi | on install now... |
| 01:21.15 | IndyGunFreak | ok. |
| 01:21.46 | IndyGunFreak | so is xchat working now, or did you have to install one of the othes i suggested? |
| 01:22.40 | rebbi | It's all very odd. I thought I uninstalled xchat but it seems to be running. I also installed xchat-gnome |
| 01:22.48 | rebbi | i know this makes no sense at all |
| 01:22.57 | IndyGunFreak | eh, it wouldn't be the first time :) |
| 01:23.02 | rebbi | LOL |
| 01:23.20 | IndyGunFreak | xchat-gnome is ok.. it doesn't have as many configuration options as xchat... |
| 01:23.23 | rebbi | hang on, lemme see what happens when I launch xchat gnome... |
| 01:23.28 | IndyGunFreak | but its easy to install |
| 01:23.33 | IndyGunFreak | k |
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| 01:23.57 | IndyGunFreak | i'd say thats you. |
| 01:24.27 | IndyGunFreak | so it worked |
| 01:24.35 | rebbi | well, here I am on xchat-gnome.... seems like that's working fine. |
| 01:24.51 | rebbi | kind of plain vanilla looking but it does get the job done |
| 01:24.59 | rebbi | ;-) |
| 01:25.03 | IndyGunFreak | who knows.. we will chalk this up to elive's miraculous ability to fix its own problems w/o user intervention |
| 01:25.07 | rebbi | thanks indy |
| 01:25.26 | IndyGunFreak | np.. yeah, xchat-gnome.. i really just suggested it so you could get here on your install, so we could try to troubleshoot xchat |
| 01:25.36 | IndyGunFreak | but you're right, very vanilla compared to xchat |
| 01:25.50 | rebbi | a few years ago, when roxville was active here, he made up a special award for me called the "Break My Elive" award. He said I was better at it than anybody else he knew. |
| 01:25.58 | rebbi | heh |
| 01:25.59 | IndyGunFreak | lol |
| 01:26.13 | IndyGunFreak | well.. if its any consolation. |
| 01:26.27 | IndyGunFreak | i always tell people there's a few steps to installing your first linux distro |
| 01:26.30 | IndyGunFreak | 1. Fail |
| 01:26.44 | IndyGunFreak | 2. Fail, but to a lesser degree than step 1. |
| 01:27.06 | IndyGunFreak | 3. Moderate success, but manage to do something stupid, and break the install(usually being dumb enought o do everything in root) |
| 01:27.13 | rebbi | where in the file structure should the executable for xchat live, anyway? |
| 01:27.15 | rebbi | LOL |
| 01:27.29 | IndyGunFreak | 4. Moderate success, finally learning how to use the user/root system, but still managing to hose something through to much su - usage |
| 01:27.46 | IndyGunFreak | and 5.. Success, because you've spent 2 weeks learning what not to do |
| 01:28.25 | rebbi | i've been futzing around with linux for about 3 years, and with elive since before Gem 1.0 |
| 01:28.33 | IndyGunFreak | impressive. |
| 01:28.39 | rebbi | not really |
| 01:28.45 | IndyGunFreak | sure it is, you stuck w/ it |
| 01:28.58 | IndyGunFreak | people look at me and say, "You've been using linxu almost 4yrs, holy crap" |
| 01:28.59 | IndyGunFreak | lol |
| 01:29.06 | rebbi | yeah... i collect old laptops and resurrect them with Linux |
| 01:29.13 | IndyGunFreak | i do that w/ PCs |
| 01:29.27 | rebbi | kind of the computer equivalent of having a car up on blocks in your front yard |
| 01:29.31 | rebbi | heh |
| 01:29.35 | IndyGunFreak | lol |
| 01:30.13 | rebbi | i've got a really old HP laptop running Puppy... very cool |
| 01:30.33 | IndyGunFreak | i've got an old compaq laptop i'm thinking i'll put elive on |
| 01:30.57 | rebbi | the old HP laptop won't boot any flavor of elive... don't know why |
| 01:31.18 | IndyGunFreak | it'll boot fine on mine.. i tested it this morning |
| 01:31.27 | rebbi | this is an old Dell Inspiron... works great, but the intel gfx are too slow to run bling module or compiz |
| 01:31.30 | rebbi | bummer |
| 01:31.39 | IndyGunFreak | i've got elive on my aa1, probably gonna put it on my main laptop in the morning. |
| 01:31.56 | IndyGunFreak | how old is "old".. |
| 01:32.07 | rebbi | it's definitely come far enough along to be a workhorse distro |
| 01:32.19 | rebbi | old, as in 1998 vintage |
| 01:32.49 | rebbi | old, as in 1998 vintage this Dell's probably five years old or so |
| 01:33.02 | rebbi | the older machine is the HP |
| 01:33.03 | IndyGunFreak | oic |
| 01:33.44 | IndyGunFreak | http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/partedmagic/snapshot2.jpg |
| 01:34.13 | IndyGunFreak | i jsut realized you can put different wallpapers on each desktop |
| 01:34.27 | keyra | IndyGunFreak: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
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| 01:35.16 | IndyGunFreak | finaly remembered to put keyra on his ignore list.. she never says anything helpful |
| 01:35.30 | keyra | IndyGunFreak: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 01:35.32 | rebbi | okay, that was me.... now xchat is running again... odd!! |
| 01:35.51 | IndyGunFreak | while you were gone i hacked into your computer and fixed it.... lol |
| 01:35.56 | IndyGunFreak | thats a joke.. |
| 01:35.57 | rebbi | heh |
| 01:36.16 | IndyGunFreak | you say stuff like that to some people as a joke and they're ready to call the fbi |
| 01:36.31 | rebbi | I think voldemort took over my laptop for a few minutes |
| 01:36.38 | IndyGunFreak | lol |
| 01:36.46 | rebbi | my kid's a harry potter fan... |
| 01:36.59 | IndyGunFreak | that is one show, i could never get into |
| 01:37.22 | rebbi | we're all addicted at my house... |
| 01:37.44 | rebbi | okay, gotta go... thanks for your help |
| 01:37.49 | IndyGunFreak | np, tc |
| 01:37.54 | rebbi | bye |
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| 01:56.05 | IndyGunFreak | welcome |
| 01:56.27 | Elive_user | hallo |
| 01:57.33 | IndyGunFreak | anything not working? |
| 02:02.00 | IndyGunFreak | Elive_user: anything not working, or you just putzing around right now? |
| 02:03.15 | Elive_user | just looking arount |
| 02:03.47 | Elive_user | elive is very nice . |
| 02:04.00 | IndyGunFreak | great |
| 02:04.20 | Elive_user | almost everything just working |
| 02:04.28 | IndyGunFreak | thats how we like it :) |
| 02:04.50 | IndyGunFreak | first time linux user? |
| 02:05.08 | Elive_user | first time elive |
| 02:05.34 | Elive_user | like debian very mutch |
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| 02:06.04 | IndyGunFreak | yeah.. if you're familiar w/ Debian, you'll adapt pretty well to elive |
| 02:06.05 | IndyGunFreak | brb. |
| 02:06.18 | keyra | IndyGunFreak: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 02:06.47 | Elive_user | its realy fun to use debian |
| 02:07.25 | Elive_user | have used slax and suse but debian based is just working |
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| 02:08.38 | Elive_user | is ther a elive e17 for power pc G4 |
| 02:08.52 | IndyGunFreak | Elive_user: i'm not sure.. if there is, i'v enot saw it |
| 02:09.33 | Elive_user | i have a e16 on one and is working very good |
| 02:10.01 | IndyGunFreak | hm.. maybe there is one, dunno |
| 02:12.11 | Elive_user | elive is the firs wher i have hardware acelertion on a laptop ati mach64 |
| 02:12.25 | keyra | Elive_user: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 02:13.20 | Elive_user | jes the flash is not working |
| 02:13.40 | Elive_user | but gnash is ok |
| 02:14.33 | IndyGunFreak | are you sure? |
| 02:14.37 | IndyGunFreak | flash works fine for me |
| 02:14.49 | IndyGunFreak | youtube, etc.. is fine |
| 02:15.19 | Elive_user | on a poerpc no flash |
| 02:15.45 | Elive_user | on my old lapi youtube all the time |
| 02:15.57 | IndyGunFreak | oh thats right... sorry |
| 02:16.09 | IndyGunFreak | i thought gnash didn't work w/ youtube |
| 02:16.20 | Elive_user | don't be sorry |
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| 02:17.51 | Elive_user | its not realy good but workt kind of slow and grashing but geting ther |
| 02:17.59 | IndyGunFreak | hmm |
| 02:19.57 | Elive_user | thaks by |
| 02:20.06 | IndyGunFreak | later |
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| 04:36.40 | elmo40 | moo? |
| 04:38.42 | elmo40 | anyone try Slitaz? |
| 04:38.56 | elmo40 | for ~30mb it is kinda cool. |
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| 07:08.01 | get | ;) apt |
| 07:34.51 | Thybo | elmo40, no never did.... anything in particular? |
| 07:37.42 | elmo40 | Thybo: i dont remember asking anything... |
| 07:37.47 | elmo40 | oh |
| 07:37.50 | elmo40 | slitaz? |
| 07:38.03 | elmo40 | anyways... |
| 07:38.18 | elmo40 | i am looking to test console mail clients. any ideas? |
| 07:39.03 | Thybo | lol |
| 07:39.11 | Thybo | i never look for console anythig so no :) |
| 07:39.15 | Thybo | i use evolution |
| 07:39.15 | Thybo | :) |
| 07:42.00 | elmo40 | bah. |
| 07:42.03 | elmo40 | too boring ;) |
| 07:43.32 | elmo40 | wiki lists 8. I have already used mutt and pine. will look at the others. Elmo is not listed, though ;) |
| 07:44.39 | elmo40 | there used to be a evim. vim based email client. cant seem to get that one working. |
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| 08:16.08 | Thybo | lol |
| 08:16.11 | Thybo | elmo40, is a freak |
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| 08:28.54 | elmo40 | sometimes. |
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| 10:00.52 | Cengo | selam linuxcular |
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| 10:19.13 | elmo40 | moo? |
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| 10:33.12 | AlexAnteMachina | hi |
| 10:33.17 | AlexAnteMachina | I see a wasynyt_eee |
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| 10:55.10 | AlexAnteMachina | p1asma, ping |
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| 11:07.58 | Thybo | anyone serious here? |
| 11:08.03 | Thybo | i just had a n issue... |
| 11:08.04 | p1asma | AlexAnteMachina: pong |
| 11:08.39 | Thybo | i had no dhcp client installed so no internt |
| 11:08.46 | Thybo | & when x broke up i felt baaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 11:08.53 | Thybo | brb |
| 11:09.21 | p1asma | who needs dhcp |
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| 11:13.09 | Ghost | hello |
| 11:13.12 | Ghost | haha |
| 11:13.31 | Thybo | anyone around? |
| 11:13.58 | Thybo | urgent matter to be discussed with -if possible- an Xorg expert :p |
| 11:14.30 | p1asma | Thybo: asking helps sometimes |
| 11:14.47 | Thybo | :) |
| 11:14.47 | Thybo | ok |
| 11:14.48 | Thybo | so |
| 11:15.00 | Thybo | i was happily eliving as usual a few hours ago.... |
| 11:15.05 | Thybo | and than it all happened |
| 11:15.08 | Thybo | sound stopped working |
| 11:15.47 | Thybo | (precision i had a dual screen setup with separate Xsessions) |
| 11:16.09 | Thybo | so than i decided to restart X coz that usually solves most of my sound issues |
| 11:16.17 | Thybo | so i control alt bckspace |
| 11:16.25 | Thybo | and i get to command line |
| 11:16.28 | Thybo | no entrance |
| 11:16.30 | Thybo | i had to |
| 11:17.05 | Thybo | x -config bkablabalab new to get a regular screen again |
| 11:17.13 | Thybo | and i can"t get my two screens back |
| 11:17.36 | Thybo | not to mention the fact that when i rebooted i had no internet access because there was no dhcp client installed so i had to install pump |
| 11:17.53 | Thybo | so what do you think p1asma? :p |
| 11:18.12 | Thybo | i do the nvidia-settings app |
| 11:18.20 | get | ??? |
| 11:18.22 | Thybo | but than when i try to boot X it tells me |
| 11:18.26 | Thybo | "no screens detected" |
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| 11:18.43 | Thybo | it does sound VERY messy but i am quite steady usually :) |
| 11:18.54 | Thybo | a few years ago i would've reinstalled hehe |
| 11:18.57 | p1asma | yeah |
| 11:19.02 | p1asma | that sounds really weird |
| 11:19.10 | Thybo | :) |
| 11:19.39 | p1asma | could be a hardware issue |
| 11:20.19 | Thybo | no |
| 11:20.27 | Thybo | well i guess not |
| 11:20.37 | Thybo | i have both screens on atm with irssi :p |
| 11:23.04 | Thybo | :) |
| 11:23.17 | Thybo | any idea? :^p |
| 11:23.29 | Thybo | it's comforting to have internte |
| 11:23.38 | AlexAnteMachina | p1asma, ich glaub ich werd mal nen läppi im Mediamarkt mit elive versorgen ;) |
| 11:23.50 | p1asma | AlexAnteMachina: lol |
| 11:23.59 | AlexAnteMachina | vista runter, elive drauf. |
| 11:24.03 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg* |
| 11:24.39 | AlexAnteMachina | kann ich morgen machen, wenn richtig viel los ist. dann sind alle gestresst und keiner passt auf irgendwas auf. |
| 11:24.52 | p1asma | Thybo: next time -> ifconfig ip netmask, route add default gw router, echo "nameserver router" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 11:25.05 | p1asma | who needs dhcp |
| 11:25.10 | AlexAnteMachina | nobody |
| 11:25.24 | AlexAnteMachina | but its pretty conveniant. |
| 11:25.51 | AlexAnteMachina | c u |
| 11:29.31 | Thybo | AlexAnteMachina, hoffe das alle gut ist!!! |
| 11:29.51 | Thybo | p1asma: i resolved the internet issue now ;) as u can actually see it |
| 11:30.01 | Thybo | ah |
| 11:30.08 | Thybo | sprechen wir hier aller deutsch? |
| 11:30.14 | Thybo | sooooooooooooooo |
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| 11:38.19 | Thybo | hehe thinkpad keys are nice for swaping :) |
| 11:43.39 | Thybo | bbl :) |
| 11:43.41 | Thybo | exit |
| 11:43.41 | eTahod | Thybo: Çàõî÷ó òàêîãî íà÷àëüíèêà êàê òû òî ñÿäó è ïîòóæóñü |
| 11:43.49 | Thybo | eTahod? |
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| 12:04.49 | Ghooost | ok |
| 12:04.54 | Ghooost | i got it all fixed! :) :) :) |
| 12:04.55 | Ghooost | hehe |
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| 13:47.20 | Thybo | exit |
| 13:47.21 | eTahod | Thybo: Çàõî÷ó òàêîãî íà÷àëüíèêà êàê òû òî ñÿäó è ïîòóæóñü |
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| 14:00.20 | Thybo | is happy he fixed his mess :) |
| 14:09.57 | Pacma | is back (gone 46:12:15) |
| 14:10.10 | Pacma | is away: No estoy |
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| 14:37.12 | elmo40 | Thybo: what mess? |
| 14:37.34 | Thybo | well |
| 14:37.38 | Thybo | X & network gone |
| 14:38.32 | Thybo | i had to rewrite xorg.conf & replace it in cli |
| 14:38.33 | Thybo | :) |
| 14:38.47 | Thybo | and install a dhcp handler |
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| 14:40.30 | elmo40 | fun times. |
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| 14:42.12 | Thybo | so & so |
| 14:42.12 | Thybo | :p |
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| 15:17.50 | elmo40 | any one willing to help me with mutt? |
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| 16:06.06 | Thybo | elmo40, what is the problem? |
| 16:06.42 | Thybo | http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttGuide |
| 16:06.43 | Thybo | :p |
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| 16:09.29 | elmo40 | it just aint workin' |
| 16:09.30 | elmo40 | :P |
| 16:09.46 | elmo40 | i keep getting the error '/var/mail/elmo is not a mailbox' |
| 16:09.57 | elmo40 | and i cant connect to gmail |
| 16:22.07 | Thybo | nothing similar found on the web |
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| 16:30.21 | Thybo | is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots |
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| 16:52.05 | Elive_user38_ru | hgjhg |
| 16:57.38 | elmo40 | Elive_user38_ru: hi |
| 16:58.19 | Elive_user38_ru | hi |
| 16:58.38 | elmo40 | how are you? |
| 16:58.40 | elmo40 | in russia? |
| 16:59.37 | Elive_user38_ru | goog... i'm from Moldova |
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| 18:16.23 | wasynyt_eee | good evening people |
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| 19:28.39 | wasynyt_eee | good evening people |
| 19:37.49 | IndyGunFreak | wasynyt_eee: hey.. :) |
| 19:37.57 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 19:38.02 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing IndyGunFreak |
| 19:38.09 | IndyGunFreak | well, yourself? |
| 19:51.47 | wasynyt_eee | doing fine |
| 19:51.59 | wasynyt_eee | has to go |
| 19:52.04 | wasynyt_eee | see you people later |
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