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| 08:00.06 | Elive_user44 | hi |
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| 08:09.13 | phoenix__| | hello everybody |
| 08:11.53 | phoenix__| | hi Thanatermesis |
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| 08:33.02 | Thanatermesis | hi phoenix__| |
| 08:34.24 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: you read my email ? |
| 08:34.42 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, i dont think so |
| 08:36.59 | phoenix__| | I have sent to thanatermesis AT elivecd DOT org |
| 08:37.09 | phoenix__| | with some suggestions about Elive ^^ |
| 08:37.20 | Thanatermesis | what's the subject of this email ? |
| 08:37.44 | phoenix__| | "questions/suggestions about Elive" |
| 08:38.13 | Thanatermesis | valentin brault, yes, received :) |
| 08:38.18 | Thanatermesis | not time to read at it yet |
| 08:38.24 | Thanatermesis | im just back from the debconf9 :) |
| 08:38.30 | phoenix__| | :D |
| 08:39.23 | phoenix__| | and it was good? |
| 08:39.54 | Thanatermesis | yes, but a bit bored for me sometimes lol |
| 08:40.24 | phoenix__| | lol |
| 08:41.44 | Thanatermesis | very calm |
| 08:44.12 | phoenix__| | you live in spain ? |
| 08:44.30 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, I guess not all of the Visitors are OS_Developers. :) |
| 08:44.38 | Thanatermesis | yes phoenix__| |
| 08:44.57 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, they are almost maintainers and developers of Debian |
| 08:45.02 | Thanatermesis | almost all* |
| 08:45.11 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
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| 08:50.20 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, hmm,..... all at a very high level of knowledge and presentations are still boring? |
| 08:51.28 | Thanatermesis | for me yes, there was a lot of presentations that are more "debian internal related" that i have not found much interest for me, also, the schedule of these talks are very bad imho |
| 08:51.40 | Thanatermesis | http://debconf9.debconf.org/ |
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| 08:53.58 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, probably it's like with most other Presentations: Much ado about nothing. |
| 08:54.51 | Thanatermesis | maybe for debian, not much for me |
| 08:55.18 | Thanatermesis | by other side i have liked a lot more the previous "hackmeeting" where i have go: http://www.associacio-aoe.org/scg/09/?lang=en |
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| 09:01.14 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, ping |
| 09:01.33 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: pong |
| 09:01.38 | Thanatermesis | about your email |
| 09:01.45 | phoenix__| | yes ? |
| 09:01.49 | Thanatermesis | it is not already compiled with SVG support ? i think that it is |
| 09:02.00 | Thanatermesis | 2) systray module: on my TODO list :)= |
| 09:02.29 | Thanatermesis | 3) about the graphic hibernation... mmmh, not that easy to implement and i should made a better look for it |
| 09:03.50 | phoenix__| | i do not think (for SVG), the E file manager do not display svg files, but in my "vanilla" Debian with myself compiled E17, it displays SVG files |
| 09:04.05 | keyra | phoenix__|: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 09:04.27 | AlexAnteMachina | that Summer Camp Garrotxa seems to really cool. |
| 09:04.36 | AlexAnteMachina | Its outdoors! |
| 09:05.09 | AlexAnteMachina | I got less knowledge but I'm sure I'd love that, too. |
| 09:07.15 | Thanatermesis | mmh, let me made a look |
| 09:07.27 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, yes, it was very nice :) |
| 09:08.20 | AlexAnteMachina | If something gets boring one can lay in the grass, smoke some weed and just enjoy life. |
| 09:08.21 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 09:09.41 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, which is the lib for svg ? librsvg2-dev ? |
| 09:10.37 | phoenix__| | librsvg2-dev, yes |
| 09:12.26 | Thanatermesis | ok, added for the next build |
| 09:12.59 | phoenix__| | thank you :) |
| 09:13.53 | phoenix__| | I also have some small suggestions for improve thumbnailers in Thunar :) |
| 09:14.57 | phoenix__| | in Debian Lenny, thunar thumbnailer for fonts is broken |
| 09:15.12 | keyra | phoenix__|: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 09:15.41 | phoenix__| | you need to edit /usr/share/thumbnailers/thunar-vfs-font-thumbnailer-1.desktop to solve it |
| 09:15.51 | phoenix__| | (http://mrpouit.free.fr/?p=351) |
| 09:19.27 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 09:20.12 | phoenix__| | since Elive works great with bluetooth, it would be nice to add thumb for 3gp video fils |
| 09:21.27 | phoenix__| | to do that, add video/3gpp in MimeType in /usr/share/thumbnailers/video-thumbs.desktop |
| 09:21.40 | phoenix__| | files* |
| 09:21.41 | keyra | phoenix__|: if you want to record a video of your desktop you should try: apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop |
| 09:21.51 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 09:22.00 | Thanatermesis | any other thing for thunar before i update the patches ? :) |
| 09:22.12 | phoenix__| | yes, about thumb of comics |
| 09:22.18 | phoenix__| | (cbz, cbz files) |
| 09:22.41 | phoenix__| | since evince is installed in Elive, is easy to add thumbs for these files in thunar |
| 09:23.13 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, for the font thumbnailer, looks like is fixed there |
| 09:23.23 | Thanatermesis | i have the X-Thumbnailer-Exec instead of the Exec one |
| 09:23.52 | phoenix__| | it was not the case in my Elive installation |
| 09:23.53 | Thanatermesis | do you use the last version of thunar available in Elive ? |
| 09:24.37 | phoenix__| | hum, i use the default-installed Thunar |
| 09:25.22 | phoenix__| | strange |
| 09:25.38 | Thanatermesis | ah i have found the cause |
| 09:25.40 | Thanatermesis | nm |
| 09:26.06 | Thanatermesis | well, tell me for the comics thing |
| 09:26.25 | phoenix__| | create a file call comics-thumb.desktop |
| 09:26.30 | phoenix__| | with : http://pastebin.com/d28e67f3c |
| 09:26.37 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 09:26.52 | Thanatermesis | the fonts thing will be fixed on the update from debian |
| 09:27.03 | phoenix__| | ok |
| 09:28.45 | phoenix__| | I have no other suggestions for now :D :D |
| 09:28.55 | Thanatermesis | ok, thank you :) |
| 09:29.16 | phoenix__| | i'm testing opendocument thumbnailer, but it's not work very well |
| 09:30.04 | phoenix__| | it does not work very well* |
| 09:31.14 | Thanatermesis | do you have any suggestion for network browsing with thunar ? (samba) |
| 09:31.45 | phoenix__| | i use smb-browser, it works great (thanks LinuxNIT :P) |
| 09:32.21 | Ychoucha | hello |
| 09:32.29 | phoenix__| | but is not in Thunar, yes |
| 09:32.41 | Ychoucha | phoenix__|, t'a proposé quoi à Thanatermesis comme suggestion pour elive? |
| 09:33.24 | phoenix__| | Ychoucha: de compiler E avec le support SVG et des petites choses sur les aperçus des fichiers dans Thunar |
| 09:34.05 | Ychoucha | oki |
| 09:34.08 | Ychoucha | iol a dit quoi? |
| 09:34.13 | Thanatermesis | i need to look more into smb-browser and the other LinuxNIT apps, maybe with a minor feature we would have a right-click option or something like that |
| 09:34.29 | Thanatermesis | the thing is that needs to be integrated on the filemanager to have a nice userfriendly use of it |
| 09:34.48 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: yes |
| 09:36.18 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, any other mime for videos ? |
| 09:36.39 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: not for now |
| 09:36.42 | phoenix__| | ^^ |
| 09:37.15 | phoenix__| | i have installed BinkPlayer for read bik video files, but it do not support thumb ^^ |
| 09:38.03 | phoenix__| | hum, maybe |
| 09:38.14 | phoenix__| | it possible to add a mime-type ? |
| 09:38.44 | phoenix__| | because thunar do not propose to extract 7zip files by right-click option |
| 09:39.31 | phoenix__| | like others zip, rar, bzip, etc |
| 09:40.09 | phoenix__| | (it has nothing to do with the videos, i know :D) |
| 09:40.09 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 09:40.34 | Ychoucha | et exalt il est dnas elive ou pas ? |
| 09:40.46 | Thanatermesis | i think that our compress/uncompress graphical tool supports 7zip right ? |
| 09:40.52 | phoenix__| | Ychoucha: oui, mais pas par défaut |
| 09:40.52 | Thanatermesis | Ychoucha, oui |
| 09:41.05 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: yes, file-roller support 7zip files |
| 09:42.08 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, if you click in right-click on the icon + "properties" and set file-roller, it will be sufficient, right ? |
| 09:43.10 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: yes, if i click right on a zip file, i have an option "extract here" in thunar, not with 7zip files |
| 09:43.43 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 09:44.05 | phoenix__| | but file-roller works great with there files, it's just a "userfriendly" suggestion ^^ |
| 09:44.41 | Thanatermesis | Created directory "/var/mirror/elive/pool/main/t/thunar-comic-thumbnails" |
| 09:45.15 | phoenix__| | :) |
| 09:47.11 | phoenix__| | always about 7z files, it would be nice to add a icon, because thunar display the default gnome theme icon, which is sad :D |
| 09:48.01 | Thanatermesis | what's the mime for 7z ? |
| 09:48.14 | phoenix__| | application-x-7z-compressed |
| 09:48.51 | Thanatermesis | s/-x/\/x/ :P |
| 09:50.03 | phoenix__| | arf :D |
| 09:53.08 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, can you install thunar-archive-plugin from the Elive repo and restart thunar to see if the right-click works ? i have needed to touch under the source code |
| 09:54.03 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, send me a 7zip example file |
| 09:55.52 | phoenix__| | ok |
| 09:56.46 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: it's work ! |
| 09:57.05 | phoenix__| | it works* |
| 09:57.38 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 09:57.44 | Thanatermesis | its ok for the 7z file, phoenix__|, i have generated one |
| 09:57.55 | phoenix__| | ok, perfect |
| 09:58.45 | Thanatermesis | do you know gimp ? |
| 09:59.21 | phoenix__| | poorly |
| 10:00.23 | phoenix__| | i use it to rezize images, not much |
| 10:00.27 | Thanatermesis | np |
| 10:00.32 | Thanatermesis | creating a 7z icon |
| 10:00.39 | phoenix__| | :) |
| 10:04.42 | Thanatermesis | perfect :) |
| 10:04.48 | Thanatermesis | that's what i call fast work :) |
| 10:05.05 | phoenix__| | ;) |
| 10:05.05 | Thanatermesis | mmh, looks a bit ugly imho |
| 10:05.08 | Thanatermesis | the new icon |
| 10:05.16 | Thanatermesis | wait a few minutes and update the package gnome-icon-theme-elive |
| 10:05.31 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 10:08.33 | Thanatermesis | ok, repository sinced, you can update it phoenix__| :) |
| 10:09.20 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, if you found more things to fixup in thunar like these ones, or icons, mimes, etc... just tell me :) (well, better make me a list so that i can do that all in one time, just like now ;)) |
| 10:09.39 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: ok |
| 10:10.04 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: do you have an idea about my suspend problem ? |
| 10:10.32 | Thanatermesis | i dont know which problem are you talking about, exactly |
| 10:10.48 | marteo | Thanatermesis, great to see you again :) We worried about your death :p |
| 10:11.04 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 10:11.19 | phoenix__| | accoding to my email, suspend to ram do not works with ELive, but it works with Debian and Fedora |
| 10:11.33 | keyra | phoenix__|: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 10:11.40 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, try hebernate --suspend |
| 10:13.17 | phoenix__| | i have already try this, suspend works but when i press the power button, my laptop never wakes up |
| 10:13.40 | phoenix__| | suspend to disk (hibernation) works |
| 10:13.54 | Thanatermesis | looks like a problem of the kernel |
| 10:14.01 | Thanatermesis | tried with the .29 one of Elive ? |
| 10:15.04 | phoenix__| | 2.6.29.4 ? |
| 10:15.25 | phoenix__| | i will try |
| 10:15.34 | phoenix__| | downloading.... |
| 10:24.34 | phoenix__| | reboot |
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| 10:32.15 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: same problem with 2.6.29.4 kernel |
| 10:32.49 | Thanatermesis | strange |
| 10:33.00 | phoenix__| | it works with Debian, so i think it's not a kernel problem |
| 10:33.04 | Thanatermesis | wich kernel in debian ? |
| 10:33.13 | phoenix__| | 2.26.6 |
| 10:33.14 | keyra | phoenix__|: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 10:33.23 | phoenix__| | 2.6.26* |
| 10:33.28 | Thanatermesis | which suspend tool ? |
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| 10:34.13 | phoenix__| | the default Debian |
| 10:34.41 | Thanatermesis | can you call it from the cmd ? |
| 10:35.11 | phoenix__| | it'n not installed in ELive, i think |
| 10:35.20 | phoenix__| | it's* |
| 10:35.22 | Thanatermesis | install it ;( |
| 10:35.39 | Thanatermesis | :(/:) |
| 10:36.08 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... just found some upgrades. |
| 10:36.17 | AlexAnteMachina | seems like you've released some, Thanatermesis |
| 10:36.33 | Thanatermesis | thanks to phoenix__|, AlexAnteMachina :) |
| 10:38.04 | AlexAnteMachina | phoenix. The bird its cry started time. |
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| 11:00.57 | FreeEagle | Hi all! |
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| 11:20.31 | Elive_user38_pl | :-: |
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| 11:43.39 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: i'm back |
| 11:44.26 | phoenix__| | i've installed uswsusp, but it's exactly the same problem |
| 11:44.49 | phoenix__| | hibernation works, suspend to ram don't work |
| 11:46.15 | Thanatermesis | you should try to reproduce the way that debian does it |
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| 12:14.24 | Thanatermesis | phoenix__|, de fait je voulait savoire si c'etait un bug exclusivement d'elive :) |
| 12:14.43 | Thanatermesis | je croix que non, mais il faudrait quelqun quil me le confirme avec un "default" e17 (pas Elive patched) et un theme original |
| 12:15.05 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: il me semble que j'ai le même problème sur m Debian avec E17 compilé par moi même |
| 12:15.17 | phoenix__| | et avec le thème par défaut |
| 12:15.19 | keyra | phoenix__|: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 12:15.29 | Thanatermesis | donc c'est un vraiment VIEUX bug :/ |
| 12:19.08 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: je rebooterai tout à l'heure sous Debian pour vérifier, la je ne peux pas, j'utilise Skype |
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| 12:19.20 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 12:25.24 | phoenix__| | d'ailleurs, à ce sujet, quelles sont les différences entre le E17 "normal" et le E17 d'Elive Thanatermesis ? |
| 12:25.43 | Thanatermesis | il i a quelque patches, differents |
| 12:25.52 | Thanatermesis | un deux c'est des shelves plus grands |
| 12:25.54 | Thanatermesis | (supported) |
| 12:26.17 | Thanatermesis | donc, en changent le source code des values des shelves (ou le pager il et) peut etre quil i aurait afecté a le pager |
| 12:26.47 | Thanatermesis | de fait je viens de voire que c'est un peut con donc les dimensions du shelf ne peut pas affecter le contenu d'un module comme le pager |
| 12:27.51 | phoenix__| | ok |
| 12:29.00 | phoenix__| | et les autres patchs, ils consistent en quoi ? (tu peux m'expliquer en anglais si tu préfère) |
| 12:33.01 | Thanatermesis | surtot configurations et adaptations pour Elive |
| 12:33.20 | Thanatermesis | oui, je viens de regarder, c'est que des configurations et adaptations pour Elive |
| 12:33.51 | phoenix__| | ok |
| 12:33.57 | Thanatermesis | par example: http://debian.pastebin.com/m68df792d |
| 12:34.47 | phoenix__| | :) |
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| 13:53.35 | Thanatermesis | bad bad bad very bad |
| 13:53.50 | Pacma | is back (gone 92:34:50) |
| 13:56.35 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: what is very bad ? |
| 13:56.47 | Thanatermesis | nvidia drivers |
| 13:56.55 | Thanatermesis | there's a new legacy one again |
| 13:57.08 | Thanatermesis | and there's not updated deb packages at all |
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| 13:59.34 | phoenix__| | indeed, very bad |
| 14:00.03 | Thanatermesis | no updated packages, old drivers dont work/compile... arf |
| 14:01.29 | twiggz | the 173 driver isnt there. |
| 14:01.42 | Thanatermesis | has moved to legacyu |
| 14:01.54 | twiggz | tried the 1.9.36 compiz i think....had to use an old driver that worked like crap. |
| 14:37.34 | Thanatermesis | if Elive updates the kernel (2.6.26) for the stable version, there will be not virtualbox and not old nvidia drivers too |
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| 14:46.25 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: what is the problem exactly ? |
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| 16:53.53 | Elive_user9_it | ciao |
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| 16:57.08 | wasynyt_mobi | good evening people |
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| 19:03.08 | ragecryx | I just noticed that when i choose greek language on the font of the default theme doesnt show greek characters but boxes ? is this considered a bug ? |
| 19:06.24 | phoenix__| | maybe the font of the default theme doesn't support Unicode |
| 19:07.19 | phoenix__| | try with an other theme |
| 19:07.51 | ragecryx | the enlightenment's default theme does the job |
| 19:08.28 | phoenix__| | ok |
| 19:08.46 | ragecryx | but would be cool for the elive's default theme to show all chars properly :) |
| 19:09.02 | phoenix__| | yes ! |
| 19:09.12 | phoenix__| | Thanatermesis: ping |
| 19:09.23 | Thanatermesis | its in the TODO |
| 19:09.34 | phoenix__| | good :) |
| 19:09.36 | ragecryx | aha! ok thanks Thanatermesis :) |
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| 19:13.21 | she_dyed | wb Alex and hi Thanatermesis |
| 19:13.32 | Thanatermesis | hi she_dyed |
| 19:14.35 | she_dyed | has anyone reported this, that when one boots the liveCD either with vga=788 0r vga=791 just get a black screen |
| 19:14.50 | keyra | she_dyed: if you have problems (blank screen) with unetbootin, press TAB and remove the 'vga=xxx' part before to boot |
| 19:14.57 | she_dyed | thats what kept me from getting the latest |
| 19:15.04 | she_dyed | this is an ancient laptop |
| 19:15.24 | she_dyed | but hey it would be a blast if I can get latest on it |
| 19:17.32 | Thanatermesis | so use vga=normal |
| 19:18.39 | she_dyed | is it not the same as vga=788? |
| 19:18.48 | she_dyed | 1024x768 |
| 19:20.03 | she_dyed | in previous elive the vga=791 works, maybe because this is ecomorph things are different |
| 19:20.23 | she_dyed | and the card isn't THAT capable. |
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| 20:39.10 | phoenix__| | good night |
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| 23:15.18 | marteo | I found something wonderful |
| 23:15.31 | LinuxNIT | linux? |
| 23:15.40 | marteo | GNU. |
| 23:15.42 | marteo | :) |
| 23:15.43 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:15.55 | LinuxNIT | GNU+Linux = wonderful |
| 23:16.00 | marteo | Ctrl+S in Thunar |
| 23:16.09 | marteo | graphical pattern matching |
| 23:16.15 | marteo | so useful |
| 23:16.42 | LinuxNIT | does not understand it |
| 23:17.46 | marteo | LinuxNIT, where are you from ? |
| 23:18.06 | LinuxNIT | im an Okie |
| 23:18.22 | marteo | which means ? |
| 23:18.30 | LinuxNIT | im from Oklahoma USA |
| 23:19.01 | marteo | okay. a pattern matching is something simple, through examples : |
| 23:19.42 | marteo | if you have a folder where there are .mp3 files and .m4a files and want to select mp3's |
| 23:20.13 | marteo | you type ctrl+s in thunar, and *.mp3 in the 'pattern' field |
| 23:20.38 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 23:21.07 | marteo | if you want to select files of type something-somethingelse.thing you use the *-*.* pattern |
| 23:21.09 | marteo | and so on |
| 23:21.26 | LinuxNIT | right |
| 23:21.36 | LinuxNIT | sorry my brain is not working full speed at the moment |
| 23:21.55 | LinuxNIT | (wife keeps chanign in front of me) |
| 23:22.02 | marteo | eh, it's not so late in the usa |
| 23:22.04 | marteo | aaaah ok |
| 23:22.06 | marteo | :) |
| 23:22.53 | LinuxNIT | :-D |
| 23:22.58 | LinuxNIT | nice feature |
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| 23:45.04 | Elive_user47_en | salut |
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| 23:51.50 | PrinceAMD_ | hello |
| 23:52.31 | LinuxNIT | howdy |
| 23:52.46 | PrinceAMD_ | not bad |
| 23:53.23 | PrinceAMD_ | got myself 375ml bottle vodka |
| 23:53.46 | LinuxNIT | so youre pretty worthless tonight aye? |
| 23:53.48 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 23:54.57 | PrinceAMD_ | nah |
| 23:55.11 | PrinceAMD_ | nothing to do tonight :/ |
| 23:55.30 | PrinceAMD_ | LinuxNIT, did u solve the network detection problem |
| 23:55.44 | PrinceAMD_ | it seems even wcid uses mii-tools |
| 23:56.46 | LinuxNIT | mii-tools does not detect both |
| 23:56.57 | LinuxNIT | ethtool is needed as well |
| 23:57.13 | LinuxNIT | however ifplugstatus uses both mii-tools and ethtools protocals |
| 23:57.55 | LinuxNIT | so i went back to ifplugstats since Thanas laptop did not work correctly with "ip link show" (which means others wont as well) |
| 23:58.23 | LinuxNIT | the thing that would be nice now is to have event notification of when the network cable is plugged in or unplugged |
| 23:59.09 | LinuxNIT | <LinuxNIT> mii-tools does not detect both << unless mii-tools has changed |