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| 01:47.42 | Elive_user92_en | hey all |
| 01:49.00 | Elive_user92_en | what is the location of the "gcc" program of my machine |
| 01:49.04 | Elive_user92_en | any ideas? |
| 01:50.00 | Elive_user92_en | can anyone read me? |
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| 01:53.12 | Elive_user64 | i have no sound in elive |
| 01:53.25 | Elive_user64 | help please |
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| 04:39.57 | Gran_Ger | hi there!! How can I change the entrance themes? And where can i found new themes? |
| 04:56.47 | she_dyed | there are themes |
| 04:57.21 | she_dyed | in exchange (see the bookmarks toolbar) |
| 04:57.46 | she_dyed | elpanel on your ibar |
| 04:59.03 | she_dyed | brings 3 icons. the 3rd one. Then choose the door for 'Entrance' |
| 05:00.59 | she_dyed | denies allegations,plays Def Leppard - Rocket |
| 05:09.55 | Gran_Ger | Thank's she_dyed, I'm watching also some themes at e17-stuff, the one what I'm watching was made for PrinceAMD |
| 05:10.27 | she_dyed | in exchange i've gotten 2 awesome ones |
| 05:10.35 | she_dyed | bluegrass and cerium |
| 05:10.49 | she_dyed | e17-stuff more recent ones are also good! |
| 05:21.37 | Gran_Ger | And there, He's explaining how to change the entrance themes with entrance-config at the terminal |
| 05:21.51 | keyra | Gran_Ger: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 05:22.13 | she_dyed | yes you can do a lot from command line |
| 05:22.52 | Gran_Ger | Ok. And For the themes of elive? Can I use the ones from e17-stuff too? |
| 05:23.13 | she_dyed | yes. make sure they're not TOO old |
| 05:24.36 | Gran_Ger | What do you mean about TOO old? There's something like "caducity date"? :D |
| 05:25.20 | she_dyed | if you're viewing it in the wrong order |
| 05:26.19 | she_dyed | the theme wont show up in the themes menu |
| 05:26.43 | Gran_Ger | Ok. |
| 05:27.07 | Gran_Ger | Apparently, I change the entrance theme. I'm gonna try it. |
| 05:27.09 | she_dyed | will show name but no preview |
| 05:27.15 | she_dyed | k |
| 05:27.32 | Gran_Ger | Thanks a lot. |
| 05:27.39 | Gran_Ger | I'll be back |
| 05:27.40 | she_dyed | yw |
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| 06:28.22 | she_dyed | conky somehow runs and SHADES!! |
| 06:28.26 | she_dyed | http://imagebin.ca/view/tf_zLBHH.html |
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| 07:54.01 | DronAn[BY] | Hi all |
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| 12:24.57 | she_dyed | frees hostages with Crowded House - World Where You Live |
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| 13:24.18 | rien-a-voir | bonjour |
| 13:24.28 | rien-a-voir | quelqu'un connait un logiciel pour enregistrer son bureau e17 ??? |
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| 14:01.58 | Wizard | hi |
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| 16:17.17 | chi1 | heya, how's 2.0 going? |
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| 16:32.45 | PrinceAMD | chi1, i guess it's coming along well |
| 16:34.05 | chi1 | nice, long time since I last used elive :/ feels like I've been thinking "i'll install it when 2.0 is released" for ages lol x) |
| 16:34.54 | DronAn[BY] | Install dev versionfor now than |
| 16:37.14 | chi1 | did that long time ago, but it isn't enough "just works" for me :) |
| 16:37.46 | DronAn[BY] | ? |
| 16:37.54 | DronAn[BY] | what do you need so? |
| 16:37.59 | chi1 | maybe the dev versions are less devvy nowadays though |
| 16:38.04 | DronAn[BY] | It works perfectly ) |
| 16:38.37 | chi1 | DronAn[BY], when I used dev versions, updates kept on breaking the system all the time, and changing the interface too big amounts |
| 16:38.52 | chi1 | might have changed though, so when I have time I might give it a shot |
| 16:39.24 | DronAn[BY] | no breaking now anyway |
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| 16:41.39 | DronAn[BY] | I use Elive dev version as my main OS, and at work too |
| 16:45.01 | chi1 | nice |
| 16:47.54 | PrinceAMD | chi1, i think back then elive was using unstable lenny, but now lenny is stable should have no problems with updates |
| 16:48.07 | keyra | PrinceAMD: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 16:49.30 | chi1 | PrinceAMD, yeah it was lenny-unstable. Guess so. I remember what made we quit was some major overhaul with E17 though, the changed everything and the place of every gui configuration in one update so I got fed up and started booting windows instead x) |
| 16:50.15 | DronAn[BY] | Use dualboot ) |
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| 16:52.36 | chi1 | DronAn[BY], hey, read what I'm saying, that's what I did back then and that's what I'm doing now, but I want elive to be usable and stable if I'm to install it, otherwise it's useless to me =) |
| 16:53.20 | DronAn[BY] | I said use dualboot for testing elive |
| 16:53.57 | DronAn[BY] | and you can decide |
| 16:54.41 | chi1 | and I said some minutes ago that that's what I might do when I have time |
| 16:54.42 | chi1 | <.< |
| 16:54.44 | DronAn[BY] | Is it usable anough for you |
| 16:55.39 | DronAn[BY] | I read that ) |
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| 17:07.41 | PrinceAMD | chi1, that had to happen |
| 17:07.46 | PrinceAMD | the code is much cleaner now |
| 17:08.18 | PrinceAMD | chi1, right now in e17 u can do everything u had done in elive gem 1.0 and even more |
| 17:08.35 | PrinceAMD | u can use shelf and also put modules on the desktop |
| 17:09.04 | PrinceAMD | also e17 almost never segf |
| 17:13.17 | chi1 | neat (: |
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| 17:18.36 | Elive_user72_fr | salut |
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| 17:54.32 | Elive_user29_es | HI there!! she_dyed, r u there? |
| 17:54.41 | she_dyed | ya man |
| 17:54.43 | she_dyed | sup |
| 17:55.33 | Gran_Ger | Ok. Now I have my own nickname |
| 17:55.54 | Gran_Ger | well, Yesterday I could change the entrance themes, do you remember I asked you? |
| 17:55.56 | she_dyed | excellent, registered and all |
| 17:58.11 | she_dyed | you changed it? |
| 17:59.23 | Gran_Ger | now, As I could notice, the entrance files (.edj) r at /usr/share/entrance/themes |
| 17:59.44 | she_dyed | how many when you do ls |
| 17:59.55 | she_dyed | but you shouldnt have to go there |
| 18:00.04 | she_dyed | do it from elpanel on the gui |
| 18:00.05 | Gran_Ger | so, If I download some one from exchange (or maybe get-e, or e17-stuff) |
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| 18:00.30 | she_dyed | at least you know where they should go |
| 18:01.05 | she_dyed | that way when you change using the GUI it should appear |
| 18:01.13 | she_dyed | you might have to be root to put things there |
| 18:01.29 | Gran_Ger | My question is: If I download some diferente theme, how can I install it? |
| 18:01.56 | she_dyed | she_dyed | at least you know where they should go |
| 18:02.14 | DronAn[BY] | Gran_Ger, just choose it |
| 18:02.35 | she_dyed | she_dyed | that way change using elpanel |
| 18:02.55 | she_dyed | elpanel will demo it then ask, Are you sure you want this |
| 18:03.59 | she_dyed | if you click ok, it will inform you to restart X |
| 18:06.04 | Gran_Ger | Ok. So. I Download it from, for instance, exchange; and put it inside my home |
| 18:06.21 | DronAn[BY] | anywhere |
| 18:06.22 | Gran_Ger | How nows ElPanel that the new theme is there? |
| 18:06.39 | she_dyed | it doesnt, move it to where the others are |
| 18:06.49 | she_dyed | at least thats how I would do it |
| 18:06.56 | she_dyed | so i know where everything is |
| 18:07.11 | she_dyed | instead of scattering all over the place |
| 18:07.16 | DronAn[BY] | You can choose it |
| 18:07.26 | DronAn[BY] | from anywhere on disk |
| 18:07.50 | DronAn[BY] | right click on desktop -- settings -- Theme |
| 18:07.59 | she_dyed | for entrance? |
| 18:08.00 | DronAn[BY] | From there Import |
| 18:08.13 | DronAn[BY] | Oo, sorry ( |
| 18:08.19 | DronAn[BY] | :) |
| 18:08.27 | she_dyed | thats for desktop themes |
| 18:08.35 | she_dyed | Still good advice :) |
| 18:12.34 | Gran_Ger | Ok. Then that's how I guessed. putting into /usr/share/entrance/themes, and from Elpanel I could choose |
| 18:12.46 | Gran_Ger | And I have a root account |
| 18:13.14 | Gran_Ger | actually, I installed sudo and put my account into /etc/sudoers |
| 18:13.44 | she_dyed | you may not need sudo |
| 18:14.12 | Gran_Ger | I guess that I could use the entrance-config command line to install it, don't I? |
| 18:16.41 | she_dyed | your call, |
| 18:18.00 | she_dyed | i want to see if the sample shows right before i commit |
| 18:18.10 | she_dyed | or that I picked the right one |
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| 18:19.28 | Gran_Ger | then, I'm confussed now. |
| 18:20.42 | Gran_Ger | So, you mean then I have to download the entrance theme, for instance bluegrass or cerium that you told me yesterday |
| 18:20.58 | she_dyed | those arent entrance themes |
| 18:21.09 | she_dyed | those are desktop themes |
| 18:21.24 | Gran_Ger | mmhh!!! Ok. |
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| 18:21.41 | she_dyed | there are volunteers for each |
| 18:21.47 | she_dyed | thank god they are there |
| 18:22.12 | she_dyed | for desktop themes they like DronAn[BY] said can be from anywhere on your hdd |
| 18:22.34 | Gran_Ger | Ok. And for entrance? |
| 18:22.54 | Gran_Ger | How is the procedure if I want to download it? |
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| 18:23.16 | she_dyed | put it in that /usr/share/ entrance that you found |
| 18:23.29 | she_dyed | then click on the rightmost icon on the bar |
| 18:23.52 | she_dyed | no wait rightmost? for el panel |
| 18:26.32 | Gran_Ger | Ok. |
| 18:27.20 | p1asma | hmm damn |
| 18:27.23 | p1asma | no thana around |
| 18:27.31 | p1asma | where are the peoples when needed?! |
| 18:27.33 | p1asma | :P |
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| 18:32.41 | she_dyed | i am assuming its something Thana is working on p1asma |
| 18:39.01 | she_dyed | otherwise you're making us look like chopped liver |
| 18:48.34 | Gran_Ger | well, I downloaded one theme for entrance from e17-stuff, and tryied to install with entrance_config -theme <name> but I got a message to configure from elpanel |
| 18:49.08 | Gran_Ger | so, I had to copy to /usr/share/entrance/themes, and from elpanel I could see them |
| 18:49.56 | Gran_Ger | I have some Issue now with this. It supposse that there could be a preview, isn't it? |
| 18:50.13 | she_dyed | ya check on the old ones there |
| 18:50.16 | she_dyed | they show you |
| 18:50.44 | she_dyed | maybe the guy didnt prep one |
| 18:51.08 | Gran_Ger | for instance, lucax? |
| 18:51.20 | she_dyed | lucax has a preview |
| 18:51.32 | she_dyed | in my version, and default has one |
| 18:52.24 | Gran_Ger | nop, I haven't |
| 18:52.32 | Gran_Ger | I'm using the 1.9.39 version |
| 18:52.38 | Gran_Ger | that could be? |
| 18:53.06 | she_dyed | you're using elpanel? |
| 18:53.13 | Gran_Ger | yep |
| 18:53.16 | she_dyed | and picked entrance themes? |
| 18:53.19 | Gran_Ger | yep |
| 18:53.23 | she_dyed | oh wait check this one |
| 18:53.41 | she_dyed | menu > Settings > settings |
| 18:53.53 | she_dyed | maybe they finally moved it to the right place |
| 18:55.27 | Gran_Ger | I haven't Settings into settings |
| 18:55.40 | Gran_Ger | she_dyed, do you speak spanish? |
| 18:55.52 | she_dyed | no |
| 18:56.03 | she_dyed | only Dos cervezas por favor |
| 18:56.11 | Gran_Ger | hehehehe |
| 18:56.20 | she_dyed | its the top one |
| 18:56.25 | she_dyed | you'll see |
| 18:56.28 | she_dyed | do it again |
| 18:56.47 | she_dyed | just click on teh top of settings > whatever |
| 18:57.29 | she_dyed | any spanish speakers around? |
| 18:57.34 | Gran_Ger | ok |
| 18:57.41 | Gran_Ger | I got it |
| 18:57.51 | she_dyed | take alook |
| 18:57.57 | Gran_Ger | settings = "Preferencias" |
| 18:58.05 | she_dyed | nice |
| 18:58.08 | she_dyed | thats it |
| 18:58.17 | Gran_Ger | and inside this, the settings you said is: "Panel de Opciones" |
| 18:58.22 | she_dyed | a hunred settings can be made here |
| 18:58.27 | she_dyed | go for it |
| 18:58.44 | she_dyed | including language and key bindings |
| 19:04.22 | Gran_Ger | Ok. I got it but just found theme |
| 19:04.38 | Gran_Ger | but not for entrance, but for the desktop |
| 19:04.58 | she_dyed | this ones easier |
| 19:05.10 | she_dyed | you can put in HOME/.e/e/themes |
| 19:05.21 | she_dyed | oh you mean from the panel |
| 19:05.44 | she_dyed | entrance could be in Advanced or System |
| 19:08.58 | Gran_Ger | Nop, |
| 19:09.01 | Gran_Ger | anyone. |
| 19:10.14 | Gran_Ger | I'll be back |
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| 19:14.46 | Elive_user18_es | hi |
| 19:15.03 | DronAn[BY] | Hello |
| 19:17.42 | Elive_user18_es | by my work, use win...can use a irc like this? |
| 19:22.09 | DronAn[BY] | yes |
| 19:22.12 | DronAn[BY] | why not? |
| 19:22.50 | DronAn[BY] | http://www.xchat.org/ |
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| 19:29.50 | Gran_Ger | Hi again, I'm back |
| 19:30.24 | Gran_Ger | So she_dyed, there is no one entrance options from Menu > settings > settings |
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| 21:13.30 | Gran_Ger | How can I work with shared folders and printers into the local network? |
| 21:14.10 | she_dyed | i think that is covered in elpanel |
| 21:14.25 | she_dyed | 3rd icon |
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| 21:22.45 | Gnea | how come I can't upgrade from one version of elive to another via apt? or is there a process I'm missing? |
| 21:23.00 | keyra | Gnea: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 21:24.47 | Gnea | keyra: well, I'm running an older version on a system that doesn't have a current method of upgrading other than via the network. it's got a 2.6.18 kernel. |
| 21:25.01 | Gnea | this means that printers don't work |
| 21:25.35 | Gnea | the framework is there, but even after I installed hplip, it won't print. period. therefore, I need to upgrade. |
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| 21:26.14 | Gnea | keyra: and if I can't do a total network upgrade, even in stages, then I think it's safe to say that elivecd is fundamentally flawed. |
| 21:26.38 | Gnea | if I'm wrong, please tell me how and why... |
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| 21:27.41 | she_dyed | right now he hasnt setup piecemeal upgrades |
| 21:28.01 | she_dyed | more like all or nothing |
| 21:28.06 | Gnea | then there's a major problem. |
| 21:28.20 | she_dyed | what i do is see if apt-cache search |
| 21:28.33 | Gnea | apt-cache search isn't going to do squat. |
| 21:28.34 | she_dyed | has something then i do that upgrade |
| 21:28.47 | Gnea | is a longtime debian and ubuntu user/helper, knows the dpkg system quite well. |
| 21:28.53 | she_dyed | you're welcome to contribute |
| 21:28.57 | she_dyed | to the effort |
| 21:29.17 | Gnea | I'd be happy to, but right now I have a problem I need to solve, and I've just been told that there is no solution. |
| 21:29.31 | Gnea | so I will have to make a solution and then come back to this, thanks |
| 21:29.31 | keyra | Gnea: Don't be shy! Just ask. :) |
| 21:30.03 | Gnea | keyra: heh, I just did, and between you and she_dyed, it's been answered. thanks :) |
| 21:30.17 | keyra | Gnea: welcome :) |
| 21:30.53 | she_dyed | she's a bot btw |
| 21:31.40 | she_dyed | Gnea: stop by the forum you might *might spot something |
| 21:33.11 | Gnea | she_dyed: keyra's the bot? oh ok, lol thanks |
| 21:33.22 | she_dyed | good luck man |
| 21:33.25 | keyra | Gnea: bot |
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| 22:35.38 | rebelpersev | hello all |
| 22:35.56 | rebelpersev | anyone here? |
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| 23:35.22 | Kashee | hi |
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