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| 00:42.52 | mac_man25 | Hey everybody. :) WHat's the easiest way to install compiz on the dev install of elive? |
| 00:43.49 | mac_man25 | I saw some people on the forums say that reinstalling was the best option, but if possible I'd like to avoid that. |
| 00:45.02 | she_dyed | whats your graphics card |
| 00:45.28 | she_dyed | should have detected and installed automatically |
| 00:47.58 | she_dyed | mac_man25: u there |
| 00:48.03 | mac_man25 | It's a Aspire One... I think it's a GMA950? |
| 00:48.24 | she_dyed | a netbook |
| 00:48.26 | mac_man25 | yes. |
| 00:49.31 | she_dyed | open up synaptic and look for ecomorph |
| 00:50.40 | mac_man25 | hum, synaptic didn't find it. |
| 00:51.55 | mac_man25 | no luck with apt-cache search ecomorph either. |
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| 00:53.51 | she_dyed | e17-compiz |
| 00:54.39 | she_dyed | did you see the howto for the aspire one or eeepc |
| 00:54.53 | mac_man25 | no, I did not. |
| 00:54.59 | mac_man25 | but I did find the package. |
| 00:55.08 | she_dyed | how did you get it on there |
| 00:55.31 | mac_man25 | what do you mean? |
| 00:55.34 | mac_man25 | get what on where? |
| 00:55.55 | she_dyed | you said you had it installed |
| 00:56.11 | mac_man25 | oh, no, not installed, I was wondering the easiest way to install it. |
| 00:56.28 | she_dyed | whats running on it now |
| 00:57.01 | mac_man25 | How do I find out the specific version? I installed from the latest dev iso yesterday. |
| 00:57.17 | she_dyed | so you do have elive on it |
| 00:57.25 | mac_man25 | yes, running elive at the moment. |
| 00:57.36 | mac_man25 | (that's how I found this channel) |
| 00:57.43 | she_dyed | found e17-compiz in synaptic? |
| 00:57.47 | mac_man25 | yes. |
| 00:57.51 | she_dyed | is it not installed |
| 00:57.56 | mac_man25 | no, it is not |
| 00:58.49 | she_dyed | do this later. search for eee, isnt that an eeePC almost? |
| 00:59.11 | mac_man25 | basically, it's basically the 9" version |
| 00:59.36 | she_dyed | look first to see if there's eee packages that weren't installed, then put in the compiz above |
| 00:59.44 | she_dyed | that way you're not missing anything |
| 00:59.51 | she_dyed | or at least you checked |
| 01:00.11 | she_dyed | so it might come up with some eee related debs |
| 01:00.27 | she_dyed | but if they were detected and installed go ahead and install compiz next |
| 01:01.53 | she_dyed | theres other people here who have the same hdware |
| 01:01.54 | mac_man25 | alright, will all the eee packages have eee in the package name? |
| 01:02.05 | she_dyed | you should see some |
| 01:02.26 | mac_man25 | yea, I see some. Just wondering to make sure I see all of them. |
| 01:02.43 | she_dyed | it didnt just search the names |
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| 01:03.21 | mac_man25 | it searched for names and descriptions. (which I believe is the default in synaptic) |
| 01:03.33 | she_dyed | ok |
| 01:04.45 | she_dyed | if it doesnt look like drivers or what, go ahead with the compiz install |
| 01:05.10 | mac_man25 | it's just ACPI scriipts specific to the eee. |
| 01:05.31 | she_dyed | might want to get them later |
| 01:06.05 | mac_man25 | alright, I'm going to attempt to install compiz, wish me luck. :) |
| 01:06.12 | she_dyed | good luck |
| 01:06.17 | she_dyed | post the news here |
| 01:06.22 | she_dyed | whatver happens |
| 01:06.22 | mac_man25 | will do |
| 01:06.29 | she_dyed | ima going eat |
| 01:06.35 | she_dyed | bbs |
| 01:07.07 | mac_man25 | hum, it says it depends on ecomorph-e17, which is not installable |
| 01:20.41 | mac_man25 | Do I need to add another apt source to get ecomorph? |
| 01:31.51 | she_dyed | think yu better lookup that eee howto, elivecd.org is your first stop |
| 01:35.02 | mac_man25 | alright, is it in the howto section? |
| 01:41.45 | mac_man25 | I'm having trouble finding the eee compiz howto, any hints? |
| 01:41.59 | keyra | mac_man25: run firefox file:///usr/share/doc/ecomorph/howto.html |
| 01:42.02 | she_dyed | 1 sec |
| 01:42.46 | mac_man25 | I don't have that file... |
| 01:44.03 | mac_man25 | I don't have the /usr/share/ecomorph directory. I think it's probably part of the ecomorph package, which I can not find in apt. :/ |
| 01:49.41 | she_dyed | this guy says that eeePC is on the grub menu |
| 01:49.48 | she_dyed | did you see that at boot? |
| 01:51.38 | mac_man25 | From the live install? |
| 01:52.01 | mac_man25 | My grub menu does not have an eeePC option |
| 01:52.08 | she_dyed | can you run it in live mode |
| 01:52.31 | mac_man25 | I can, however, the thumb drive I have left at my friend's house, so not tonight. |
| 01:53.06 | she_dyed | did you try it in live mode before? |
| 01:53.14 | she_dyed | and got the cube? |
| 01:53.28 | mac_man25 | I didn't try compiz, it didn't automatically start |
| 01:54.45 | mac_man25 | Is there a way to find out which version of elive I have? |
| 01:55.38 | she_dyed | check the boot and login screens i think on login its at the bottom right |
| 01:56.13 | mac_man25 | hm, ok. brb |
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| 02:01.21 | mac_man25 | ok, back, my grub menu consists of elive gem+, elive gem+ nurse, windows XP/2000, and Memtest. |
| 02:01.35 | keyra | mac_man25: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems |
| 02:01.56 | mac_man25 | keyra: Uggg. Don't take to me anymore, you are an idiot. |
| 02:04.25 | mac_man25 | So basically at this point, my problem is that for some reason ecomorph-e17 does not show up in my package list. Why would this be? |
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| 02:05.25 | mac_man25 | keyra: Sorry for my terse reply, it's just that elive is a linux distro, and every single linux distro I've had has never been effected by other installed OSs while I'm running linux. |
| 02:07.17 | mac_man25 | keyra: so you see why what you said makes no sense? (Though now that I think of it, elive claims it is unable to read and write NTFS without problems, so maybe that's what you were referring to?) |
| 02:07.31 | keyra | mac_man25: search in google! |
| 02:09.59 | mac_man25 | keyra: I don't see how that would help anything as far as your comment goes. As far as my problem goes, I have been googling for a couple hours before I came here. |
| 02:10.14 | keyra | mac_man25: I do how do you don't do my doyoudo when I do |
| 02:13.28 | mac_man25 | keyra: I'm not sure what you're trying to say. And I'm not sure what this has to do with the statement you made earlier or the problem I came here for help with. |
| 02:13.42 | keyra | mac_man25: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 02:14.00 | mac_man25 | *sigh* |
| 02:14.01 | she_dyed | she's a bot |
| 02:14.06 | mac_man25 | I just figured that out |
| 02:14.40 | mac_man25 | they are fun, except when they play with the noobs. ;) |
| 02:17.56 | mac_man25 | I feel like my problem might stem from my /etc/apt/sources.list file, what should mine be if I want compiz? |
| 02:20.28 | she_dyed | hmmm theres some hits when you search eee in teh forums |
| 02:20.38 | she_dyed | wouldnt tuosh sources list |
| 02:20.42 | she_dyed | touch |
| 02:21.19 | she_dyed | if you do that go straight to reinstall |
| 02:22.18 | mac_man25 | yea. I will probably have to do that. Oh well, |
| 02:23.44 | mac_man25 | Thanks for your help. |
| 02:27.21 | she_dyed | k |
| 02:27.42 | she_dyed | but try returning here tomorrow, theres a bunch of eee guys |
| 02:28.06 | she_dyed | that use elive on their HW |
| 02:29.19 | mac_man25 | Alright, thanks again. |
| 02:29.25 | she_dyed | yw |
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| 11:26.41 | she_dyed | hmmm adding the emodule weather will upgrade everything including compiz |
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| 13:40.27 | wasynyt_eee | good afternoon people |
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| 15:00.35 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 15:02.23 | she_dyed | hey alex |
| 15:02.36 | she_dyed | how r u |
| 15:03.31 | AlexAnteMachina | fine |
| 15:03.33 | AlexAnteMachina | u? |
| 15:03.48 | she_dyed | am good just had brunch |
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| 15:05.29 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... here it's close to dinner |
| 15:06.19 | she_dyed | i tried to install emodule-weather but it needs to update elive installer , compiz etc. etc. |
| 15:06.33 | keyra | she_dyed: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 15:07.19 | she_dyed | have you dont an update like that Alex |
| 15:07.37 | she_dyed | done* |
| 15:08.12 | she_dyed | i wonder should I maybe it will improve the desktop |
| 15:08.31 | AlexAnteMachina | r u running a dev-version? |
| 15:08.41 | she_dyed | yes i think so |
| 15:08.44 | she_dyed | yes |
| 15:09.12 | AlexAnteMachina | in case you do, just get the latest one (1.9.43), install it and upgrade it, too. |
| 15:09.25 | AlexAnteMachina | i did that too, and it works well. |
| 15:10.32 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm a little confused by latest compiz-version.... there aint no "compiz" in its filename!?!? |
| 15:11.02 | she_dyed | in synaptic there is |
| 15:11.11 | she_dyed | instead of ecomorph |
| 15:13.24 | AlexAnteMachina | it aint no compiz. it's a compiz-hack, called ecomorph. |
| 15:15.06 | she_dyed | synaptic doesn't call it that, tho. it calls that e17-compiz |
| 15:15.20 | keyra | she_dyed: thanks... bot :) |
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| 15:18.13 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 15:18.28 | AlexAnteMachina | but shouldnt a compiz-version contain compiz by default??? |
| 15:20.29 | she_dyed | contains but maybe not install unless the graphics was detected ok |
| 15:20.33 | she_dyed | how was yours? |
| 15:20.47 | she_dyed | did it install without 'permission' |
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| 15:21.46 | AlexAnteMachina | i dont use the compiz version |
| 15:21.49 | she_dyed | last night this guy was struggling wiht his eee |
| 15:22.40 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... probably you should have sent him that metallica song "struggle within"!? |
| 15:23.02 | she_dyed | if it has a sad mood yeah XD |
| 15:23.49 | AlexAnteMachina | sounds like you dont know it..... |
| 15:24.01 | AlexAnteMachina | that's a hughe gap in you knowledge! |
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| 15:25.01 | she_dyed | dont tell anyone |
| 15:25.04 | she_dyed | heh |
| 15:27.37 | AlexAnteMachina | i'm dl-ing some metallica stuff atm.... |
| 15:28.04 | she_dyed | so in your case, synaptic would show e17-compiz is not installed? |
| 15:28.23 | AlexAnteMachina | of course it would. yes. |
| 15:28.45 | she_dyed | but it wasnt a choice you had to make, the default was not to install |
| 15:28.57 | AlexAnteMachina | yes, thats right. |
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| 15:36.05 | she_dyed | this guy, think he's SOL? |
| 15:36.26 | she_dyed | i know we have a few folks here who run compiz on their netbook |
| 15:36.38 | AlexAnteMachina | sol?? |
| 15:36.49 | she_dyed | shit outa luck |
| 15:36.59 | AlexAnteMachina | dont know |
| 15:37.44 | AlexAnteMachina | i had the first compiz-version running on my eee 701. worked nice. |
| 15:38.03 | AlexAnteMachina | but following versions had several problems. |
| 15:38.11 | AlexAnteMachina | worst: no cube! |
| 15:38.19 | AlexAnteMachina | :( |
| 15:38.31 | she_dyed | so the first devel had a shot. it worked on eee |
| 15:38.56 | AlexAnteMachina | so i decided using the normal version until the compiz version will work better. |
| 15:39.01 | she_dyed | my old laptop, once elive reached that compiz version, it couldnt go further |
| 15:39.18 | she_dyed | pre compiz will work on it |
| 15:43.16 | AlexAnteMachina | i wonder why it's not merged into the normal dev version. |
| 15:44.31 | AlexAnteMachina | one could test in livemode and choose the best one later for install. |
| 15:48.23 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, now i'm dl-ing the struggle within |
| 15:48.38 | AlexAnteMachina | lets try a filetransfer |
| 15:49.02 | she_dyed | am behind a router, may not work |
| 15:49.21 | she_dyed | remember you had to email it to me |
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| 15:49.52 | AlexAnteMachina | :( |
| 15:50.09 | she_dyed | you ended up emailing to me, its my end thats the problem |
| 15:50.23 | keyra | she_dyed: The mailing list for elive is on http://groups.google.com/group/elive-testers . Its specially used to talk about new development versions, testing hardware and features |
| 15:50.31 | AlexAnteMachina | that was she_died@what???? |
| 15:50.39 | she_dyed | at yahoo |
| 15:50.48 | AlexAnteMachina | .com? |
| 15:50.50 | AlexAnteMachina | .us? |
| 15:51.03 | AlexAnteMachina | .elive? |
| 15:51.04 | she_dyed | com |
| 15:51.06 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
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| 15:51.52 | AlexAnteMachina | k... sending..... |
| 15:51.58 | AlexAnteMachina | hi LinuxNIT |
| 15:52.03 | she_dyed | thanks ! |
| 15:52.06 | she_dyed | wheeeee |
| 15:52.11 | AlexAnteMachina | was my report useful?? |
| 15:53.17 | AlexAnteMachina | i need to leave real soon |
| 15:54.34 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, k. sent. |
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| 15:56.26 | she_dyed | wb Thana how are you |
| 16:01.19 | AlexAnteMachina | c u |
| 16:01.25 | she_dyed | cya |
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| 19:40.46 | she_dyed | hello worldddd |
| 19:50.25 | Ychoucha | Mahahahaha!!!! |
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| 20:15.05 | elmo40 | moo? |
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| 20:15.22 | LinuxNIT | meee? |
| 20:15.26 | she_dyed | thought it was woof |
| 20:15.54 | elmo40 | at the linuxcaffe :) |
| 20:15.58 | LinuxNIT | apt moo |
| 20:15.59 | apt | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 20:17.19 | she_dyed | why would d/loading weather module want to upgrade the installer? do i have to do the thing over? |
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| 20:17.44 | LinuxNIT | because of dependancies |
| 20:17.52 | LinuxNIT | do the thing over? what do you mean? |
| 20:17.54 | LinuxNIT | reinstall? |
| 20:17.57 | she_dyed | would i need to run installer? |
| 20:17.59 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 20:18.17 | she_dyed | part of the 'upgrade' list was that and e17-compiz |
| 20:18.43 | she_dyed | hey maybe it'll improve my desktop a bit |
| 20:19.17 | elmo40 | the installer is a dependenncy for many things... thana is weeird like that |
| 20:19.48 | she_dyed | oh ok |
| 20:20.02 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.08 | elmo40 | a real cafe! |
| 20:20.15 | elmo40 | nice location. |
| 20:20.34 | elmo40 | i was going to make a v2.0 ;) |
| 20:20.36 | LinuxNIT | it may not be that the emodule depnds on the the installer, but something else which has a common dep with the installer |
| 20:21.49 | elmo40 | ok. i be back tmrw :] heading to a photo shoot |
| 20:21.57 | elmo40 | enjoy |
| 20:22.24 | elmo40 | p.s. linuxNit;make anything new lately? |
| 20:22.42 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 20:22.46 | she_dyed | ah ok LinuxNIT i thought i had to wipe |
| 20:23.04 | LinuxNIT | she_dyed, no |
| 20:23.29 | she_dyed | excellent! thank you :) |
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| 20:28.37 | LinuxNIT | youre welcome |
| 20:30.21 | she_dyed | thats a nice website he linked us to |
| 20:33.39 | she_dyed | here goes... |
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| 20:44.00 | she_dyed | ah 404 and brought to a screeeeching halt |
| 20:44.08 | she_dyed | will eat first and retry later |
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| 22:23.41 | she_dyed | W: Failed to fetch http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/efl/r/rage/rage_1svn20090902-17_i386.deb |
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| 22:34.14 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, apt-get update solve it ? |
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| 22:34.59 | she_dyed | gets me a new set of repo sites? |
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| 22:35.56 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, it updates the list, the common problem of your error is that the list points to a package that in the actual time doesn't exist |
| 22:36.22 | Elive_user9_fr | Hi |
| 22:36.29 | she_dyed | a bunch of 404 Thanatermesis |
| 22:36.32 | she_dyed | hi there |
| 22:37.23 | Elive_user9_fr | wich distribution should I use to play with E17 ? |
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| 22:37.38 | ThanaVM | she_dyed, not in my case |
| 22:37.56 | ThanaVM | # cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep "^deb" |
| 22:37.57 | ThanaVM | deb http://europe.repository.elive-systems.com lenny main elive drivers tests efl ports multimedia |
| 22:37.57 | ThanaVM | deb http://europe.debian.elive-systems.com lenny main contrib non-free |
| 22:38.00 | ThanaVM | is that what you have, she_dyed ? |
| 22:38.27 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user9_fr, do you want to develop with e17 ? |
| 22:38.27 | she_dyed | think mine is mostly US, 1 sec |
| 22:38.44 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, ok show me yours |
| 22:40.29 | she_dyed | deb http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/ lenny main elive drivers tests efl ports |
| 22:40.39 | she_dyed | deb http://us.debian.elive-systems.com/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 22:41.31 | ThanaVM | she_dyed, it works for me too |
| 22:41.38 | Elive_user9_fr | Thanatermesis, not really, I just want a light desktop for my old laptop |
| 22:42.09 | she_dyed | so its the package itself thats 404 |
| 22:42.25 | ThanaVM | [eliveuser ~]$ ping us.repository.elive-systems.com |
| 22:42.31 | ThanaVM | 64 bytes from apache2-linus.mclaren.dreamhost.com (208.113.199.196): icmp_seq=2 ttl=34 time=193 ms |
| 22:42.36 | ThanaVM | that is the ip that you have, she_dyed ? |
| 22:42.50 | ThanaVM | Elive_user9_fr, how much RAM memory it has ? |
| 22:43.01 | Elive_user9_fr | ThanaVM, 512Mo |
| 22:43.08 | Thanatermesis | <she_dyed> a bunch of 404 Thanatermesis |
| 22:43.21 | ThanaVM | Elive_user9_fr, more than sufficient to run the last version of elive development :) |
| 22:44.09 | Elive_user9_fr | ThanaVM, great :) |
| 22:44.24 | she_dyed | i get the same IP ThanaVM and ping responses are good so now i suspect the packages are not tehre |
| 22:44.44 | Elive_user9_fr | ThanaVM, so should I use elive iso developpment ? |
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| 22:44.56 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, anyways, i have some new packages just sending right now to the repo, more stable, please wait around 30 minutes and upgrade everything ;) |
| 22:45.19 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user9_fr, yes, or the stable version |
| 22:45.39 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, if in 30 min. you have the same problem, report me that again :) |
| 22:45.41 | she_dyed | Elive_user9_fr: how old is the laptop heh |
| 22:45.53 | she_dyed | ok will do Thanatermesis |
| 22:46.20 | Elive_user9_fr | or maybe opengeu |
| 22:49.12 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user9_fr, opengeu will require a lot more of ram, but you can try it and see yourself :) |
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| 23:20.04 | Elive_user44_en | hi |
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| 23:46.32 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, ok, repo updated |
| 23:52.19 | she_dyed | hmmm maybe because my version is old http://pastie.org/624030 |
| 23:53.09 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, does apt-get update works for you ? |
| 23:53.28 | she_dyed | i could try that, 1 sec |
| 23:55.19 | she_dyed | it said you may want to run apt-get update |
| 23:55.26 | she_dyed | want me to pastie? |
| 23:55.31 | Thanatermesis | well, run it again |
| 23:55.36 | Thanatermesis | sometimes you need to run it 2 times |
| 23:55.44 | she_dyed | oh |
| 23:56.02 | Thanatermesis | after to apt-get update, does apt-get install... works ? |
| 23:56.51 | she_dyed | i get a 'There is no public key associated...; does that matter |
| 23:57.14 | Thanatermesis | mmh, not much |
| 23:57.21 | Thanatermesis | i have see this problem, i should fix it but i have not time lol |
| 23:57.28 | Thanatermesis | but is not much relevant |
| 23:58.42 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.59 | ThanaVM | btw it works on a recent iso, i dont know what has made it not working on old ones (that key verification) |
| 23:59.12 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, yes, that's because the key, not matters much |
| 23:59.18 | she_dyed | ths is the first ecomorph |