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07:54.26Elive_user34_frsalut
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10:37.54Elive_user0_enopenoffice on elive ?
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10:46.04Ychouchahttp://belive.d0n.be/infusions/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=openoffice.org&do=diff1226158213
10:46.15Ychouchai have writting how to install open office on elive
10:46.18Ychouchabut in french
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10:47.48AlexAnteMachinahi all
10:54.05Ychouchahello
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11:07.44Elive_user89_enHi
11:08.30Elive_user89_enWhere can I get additional themes for Elive?
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13:31.08Elive_user64_eseloooo
13:31.41vasquitoxesta silencioso el chat
13:32.03Elive_user24_enMhahahahaha!
13:32.04Elive_user24_en!!
13:33.27AlexAnteMachinahi
13:33.41vasquitoxhi
13:33.59Elive_user24_enelmo
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13:52.09Elive_user24_enon peut pas compiler elementary sous elive
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15:00.12LiquiDzOrhay a few months have passed since the last time i asked this question so i hope comething has changed: is there any way i could rebuild the kernel (like we can do with "bigmem" in other distros) or something so i can use all of my 4BG of ram?
15:00.26LiquiDzOrsomething*
15:01.53LiquiDzOr(akward silence)
15:01.58LiquiDzOr(rolling plant)
15:02.10LiquiDzOr(grashoooper noice)
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15:02.29LiquiDzOrwell, thank you, i guess....
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15:05.23AlexAnteMachinaLiquiDzOr,
15:05.24AlexAnteMachinahi
15:05.35LiquiDzOrAlexAnteMachina, hi :)
15:05.36AlexAnteMachinahi she_dyed
15:05.50she_dyedhey guys AlexAnteMachina LiquiDzOr
15:06.02LiquiDzOrsup she_dyed
15:06.07AlexAnteMachinaI got no useful knowledge in installing kernel.
15:06.23LiquiDzOrit is good to see that there are at least 2 other human beings here XD
15:06.36she_dyedlol where have you been hanging out
15:06.39AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, any idea how to install another kernel to elive?
15:07.03she_dyedDammitJim only had to use synaptic and his launched
15:07.21she_dyedmine i have to muck around in grub and STILL it says looking for device
15:07.46LiquiDzOri dont think installing another kernel may be possible, but there must be a way that allows me to use all of my ram
15:08.11she_dyedwhy not try the classic mem=  boot param
15:08.16AlexAnteMachinaI doubt your system would use all that ram.
15:08.46LiquiDzOrwell ive been close with some tests for the free software academy
15:08.59she_dyednow if its a 64bit machine
15:09.14keyrashe_dyed: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
15:10.12she_dyedso my new kernel and new initrd are lying in wait :(
15:10.15LiquiDzOrit is a 64 bits machine, BUT, to use more than 3.1-3.4 GB of ram it isnt necessary to use a 64 bits system
15:10.35she_dyedcorrect
15:11.06she_dyedtry that mem boot parm something like mem=nnnM
15:11.12she_dyedi always put in terms of meg
15:11.50LiquiDzOrand well, asi i already said i have been close to the limit so i want to be prepared if i have to use more ram and i want to learn more and more :P...So as i love Elive it would be great to find and answer and not having a motive to use another distro on the future :D
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15:13.18LiquiDzOrim gonna research about that parameter, thank you so much AlexAnteMachina and she_dyed, if u get to know another clue ill appreciate u tell me :)
15:13.44she_dyedok boot params HOWTO in tldp.org
15:14.15AlexAnteMachinahas really no knowledge in those things.
15:14.18she_dyedhave fun LiquiDzOr
15:14.31AlexAnteMachinahey she_dyed do you know gloobus?
15:14.37she_dyedno
15:14.43she_dyedwait did you install the kernel yet?
15:14.54AlexAnteMachinaits something like CoverFlow in MacOS
15:15.04she_dyedwhat does it do
15:15.07AlexAnteMachinawatch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCVaeyRlSFM&hl=de
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15:18.27AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, understood what it's doing?
15:18.43she_dyednot much
15:18.52she_dyedbut i see tux flashing and other wardrobe
15:24.48AlexAnteMachinaits an adaption of Coverflow.
15:25.10she_dyedto put on? CD covers?
15:25.39AlexAnteMachinaCoverflow is a kind of preview browsing through anything (pics, docs, pdf,...) by Apple.
15:27.28AlexAnteMachinak... watch this one, maybe it's more clear then:
15:27.38AlexAnteMachinahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9svARuRA6G4&NR=1
15:29.52she_dyedanything viewable it will preview but with
15:30.04she_dyedan interface like we have on e17's dock
15:30.16she_dyedand YouTube showing other available flix
15:31.30AlexAnteMachinawhat r flix?
15:32.17she_dyedflicks video or film
15:32.23she_dyedcan cell them flix
15:32.34she_dyednormally spelt flicks
15:33.41AlexAnteMachinathe dock in elive got nothing to do with a preview browser.
15:37.02she_dyedno but the way the parabolic sizing goes
15:37.22she_dyedknow how the icon grows when you mouseover
15:37.37AlexAnteMachinayes.
15:38.32she_dyedright, thats where the similarity ends
15:38.39AlexAnteMachinayo
15:41.28she_dyedif ubuntu has it, then there could be a pure deb somewhere
15:41.36she_dyedgoto ubuntu channel
15:41.50she_dyedif you dont mind the noise and traffic there
15:42.19she_dyedhey are you out or in still?
15:43.11she_dyedi'll be back
15:44.17AlexAnteMachinaits working with nautilus only.
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15:44.32keyraAlexAnteMachina: Nautilus is bloated, just like Konqueror! Do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other Distros? Why are you using Elive then?
15:44.34AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, I'm back home!!!
15:44.46AlexAnteMachinagot home this noon!
15:44.47AlexAnteMachina:)
15:45.25AlexAnteMachinahey, i guess you like enlightenment... in case you like the openmoko/freerunner project, too you should have a look at this:j
15:45.28AlexAnteMachinahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RcCFrf-NW0&hl=de
15:55.53Thybois away: Wazzzaaaaaaa
16:08.24she_dyednice! welcome back
16:11.53she_dyedso thats what its like to be working on bleeding edge
16:12.09she_dyedlol the confidential case has bananas and foog
16:12.11she_dyedfood
16:13.29AlexAnteMachinalol... she_dyed, I'm hundry and need some foog.
16:13.29AlexAnteMachina;)
16:13.41she_dyedget their briefcase
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17:42.39DronAn[BY]_PSIHi all
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17:59.41AlexAnteMachinahi DronAn[BY]_PSI
18:01.47DronAn[BY]_PSIHi
18:01.58DronAn[BY]_PSI:)
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18:21.15Elive_user65_enhi, is there a way to install a different file manager like nautilus into elive?
18:21.29keyraElive_user65_en: Nautilus is bloated, just like Konqueror! Do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other Distros? Why are you using Elive then?
18:21.40Elive_user65_enor can someone explain how to access my smb server thru thunar?
18:21.55Elive_user65_eni cant figure out how to access my file server thru thunar
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18:23.25Elive_user65_enanyone got some help for me?
18:23.47Debian_Lesbiandoes anybody here speak french ?
18:25.20Elive_user65_en....
18:26.44Debian_LesbianSalut rie-a-voir
18:28.22Debian_LesbianI'm in my first use of IRC... Hum!
18:29.05Debian_LesbianI think it's not very different from MSN or ICQ but it seems to be less intuitive for my 2 grams brain
18:29.45LiquiDzOrDebian_Lesbian, youre doing just fine :P
18:30.04keyraLiquiDzOr: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
18:30.38Debian_LesbianCool, it's my first answer, so I'm not talking alone in the desert lol
18:31.04Debian_Lesbiani WAS WONDERING IF i WAS REALLY CONNECTED
18:31.18Debian_LesbianWhere are you from ?
18:31.34LiquiDzOrDebian_Lesbian, i know how it feels hehehe...get used to it, almost everyone is polite but theyre not looking at the channel every seccond
18:31.42LiquiDzOrfar far away :P
18:32.44Debian_LesbianI hope so for them ! Watching that screen 24 hours a day might be boring !
18:33.15Debian_LesbianFar away ? Australia ? New Zeland ?
18:33.58Debian_LesbianI'm 3 km from Nice (France), 20 km from Cannes (you may know the film festival)
18:34.43Elive_user65_enso, does thunar have any way to browse windows network shares? or do i have to edit some config files?
18:34.59LiquiDzOryup i know it, im from Venezuela, far, far away :P
18:35.30Debian_LesbianYo ! that's great, you're my first contact with Venezuela
18:35.58Debian_LesbianI had some with Peru, Bolivia and Chili but never with your country
18:36.04LiquiDzOrElive_user65_en, on elive gem we used to have an app called Lynneighborhood to config all that stuff...i dont know how will we do it now...so i support your answer
18:36.36LiquiDzOrElive_user65_en, i mean your question :P
18:36.42Elive_user65_enjeez, now i have to go figure out fstab and related crap......again
18:36.44Elive_user65_enty
18:37.14Elive_user65_enim using elive on an aspire one and my home is very networked, thus no network share access means OS needs some fixing
18:37.48LiquiDzOrElive_user65_en, i have the same reaction, we should have something that makes that config less annoying
18:38.02Elive_user65_en:D
18:38.03LiquiDzOrDebian_Lesbian, well then nice to meeting you :P
18:38.03Debian_LesbianHello everybody, I would like to join adomain (Active Directory on Win Server 2008) with this Elive computer. Is it possible (first) and how to ?
18:38.18keyraLiquiDzOr: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
18:38.38LiquiDzOrhey keyra long time no see ;)
18:39.02Debian_LesbianNice to meet U too Liquid...
18:40.45LiquiDzOrDebian_Lesbian, you mean something like Ubuntu's likewise?
18:41.54Debian_LesbianI'm not very used to Linux. I have a Ubuntu CD but I had no fee disk to install it. I know only Mandriva and Debian
18:42.45Elive_user65_enubuntu is a debian distro
18:43.21Debian_LesbianThat I know but I don't know the tool you told me about
18:43.28LiquiDzOrDebian_Lesbian, ok thats fine, thats great, you dont need that thing, if youre on elive you found home :P
18:43.42Debian_Lesbianlol
18:44.50LiquiDzOrwhat i meant its that theres a project that does what u need, but i dont remember its name, i only remembered the name of the package that works with ubuntu....give me a minute to find the name that u need :P
18:45.11Debian_LesbianCool
18:45.44Debian_LesbianI have to leave home for a while but I stay connected here. See you later. Thanks for support
18:47.12Debian_Lesbianby the way, I give U the precision that installed the package that make Win Server accept neighborhood with UNIXlike systems
18:47.16Debian_LesbianCiao
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18:56.47Thanatermesisrm -rf
18:56.59PrinceAMDrm -rf keyra
18:57.03keyraThanatermesis: if you want to not remove accidentaly anything, since the version 1.9.45 there's a special feature, use 'del' instead of 'rm' and see :)
18:57.52kingdondel?
18:58.16Thanatermesisyes
18:58.18Thanatermesis<Thanatermesis> del(){ mkdir -p /tmp/Trash_${USER} ; mv "$@" /tmp/Trash_${USER} ; echo -e "Trash size: /tmp/Trash_${USER}: $(du -hs /tmp/Trash_${USER})\nMay you want to run 'trash_clean'" ; }
18:58.19Thanatermesis<Thanatermesis> trash_clean(){ rm -rf /tmp/Trash_${USER} ; echo -e "Trash cleaned" ; }
18:58.22Thanatermesisadd this to your .bashrc file
18:58.48PrinceAMDimplemented 5min ago :)
18:59.01PrinceAMDbut took 1hr to get good code :)
18:59.22ThanatermesisPrinceAMD, del foo &
18:59.43kingdonnice
18:59.52ThanatermesisPrinceAMD, 1 hour to finish and 1 year to recode it again
19:00.07DronAn[BY]_PSIùÙ
19:00.23Thanatermesiss/recode/recover/
19:00.31Thanatermesis:)
19:01.34LiquiDzOrThanatermesis, how can i use all of my 4gb of ram on elive?
19:01.47LiquiDzOrcan i be able*
19:01.49PrinceAMDLiquiDzOr, open 400images in gimp :)
19:01.55DronAn[BY]_PSIùÙ
19:02.07LiquiDzOr(thats why i corrected lol)
19:02.26LiquiDzOrthe system only sees 3.1gb
19:02.29ThanatermesisLiquiDzOr, apt-cache search linux-image elive highmem
19:02.44LiquiDzOrThanatermesis, ty so much
19:02.45PrinceAMDLiquiDzOr, oh well 32bit system is limited to that amount of memory
19:02.56LiquiDzOrPrinceAMD, youre so wrong
19:03.02Thanatermesisso install an Elive kernel with highmem support :) but remember to install the required dependencies (nvidia drivers for example)
19:03.02LiquiDzOrit isnt limited
19:03.17ThanatermesisLiquiDzOr, by other side is better to use the "nurse mode" for that if you dont know how to do all this
19:03.19PrinceAMDunless u use that ... kernel thing
19:03.27Thanatermesisunfortunately is not yet implemented, but will be soon :)
19:03.54PrinceAMDLiquiDzOr, real 32bit is limited to 3.x gb ram
19:03.56PrinceAMDbut there is extensions to make more work
19:04.01LiquiDzOrThanatermesis, i know it will, you guys are great, thnx so much for this distro, ill find out how to collaborate soon
19:04.35LiquiDzOrPrinceAMD, thats right, now we are understanding each other, ty too :)
19:05.11PrinceAMD:)
19:06.39kingdoni need to write a libfam client
19:06.45kingdonor gamin, whatever they are calling it these days
19:07.52PrinceAMDgamin :)
19:08.41kingdonsomething to help me handle branch and merge without using git
19:09.39kingdonbah
19:09.47kingdoni'm going to wind up using diff -urN
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19:36.43Thanatermesiskingdon, try meld :)
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21:33.00she_dyedv
21:33.58rhcp1253ihack4life
21:34.26she_dyedwillhack4food
21:35.35rhcp1253how many real hackers we got here!!! Everybody say linux
21:35.56she_dyedmaybe you can help the guys in #e
21:36.20she_dyedcause I gave them something to chew on
21:36.59she_dyedyou ever bind a key to toggle shade mode
21:37.36rhcp1253i think but that was in ubuntu
21:37.46rhcp1253like a month ago
21:38.14she_dyedwell in e it can shade left and right
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21:40.11rhcp1253the devoloper is good but he's only one person
21:40.32she_dyedyeah you know python?
21:40.40TheodenWow!  I haven't been in here is a while - don't recognize anyone.  :)
21:40.56she_dyedwhere you been man, kde!?
21:41.15TheodenYes as a matter of fact ... on my other machine.  :)
21:41.20TheodenBut here - http://98.234.161.226/opera/Arch-E17.png
21:41.26rhcp1253i used to but i kinda stopped when i migrated to mac
21:41.32rhcp1253i m on a macbook
21:42.07rhcp1253i use xcode and applescript and its all different
21:42.13rhcp1253but ill try to help
21:43.23she_dyedi helped with the english text
21:43.37she_dyedbec I dont code
21:43.51she_dyedTheoden: nice
21:43.52rhcp1253really that mustiv been like a huge job
21:44.06rhcp1253do u speak the other lsnguages
21:44.07she_dyedi just uploaded snowtorturepack in e17-stuff.org
21:44.46she_dyedyes but mainly english
21:45.13she_dyedoh no he just gave me nurse mode to translate
21:45.21Theodenshe_dyed: thx
21:45.22she_dyedother guys were working in other areas
21:46.08rhcp1253dude the snowtorturepack is sick how do u make that kind o stuff
21:46.50she_dyedwhich one? i just looked at how snow worked
21:47.00she_dyedheck not even the code, i saw the png's
21:47.07she_dyedand started swapping them
21:47.44rhcp1253oh soudnds so simple but then my add kicks in and makes it a 2hour job
21:48.49she_dyedwhat i do is i open a cold one
21:49.23rhcp1253i don't drink im like 14
21:51.39she_dyeddoesnt have to be alky
21:51.50she_dyedwhatever like bawls or iced tea
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22:00.42rhcp1253yea i know my computer is like so hard to focus on
22:01.19rhcp1253the desktop has like 1000 items
22:02.11she_dyedoh the icons stacking up
22:02.59rhcp1253u running only linux?
22:03.12she_dyedand win2k for gaming
22:03.38rhcp1253only unstable elive
22:04.19she_dyedwait on your mac?
22:04.42she_dyedyou still have mac os right?
22:07.49she_dyedscreenshots: http://shedied.deviantart.com/gallery
22:07.52rhcp1253yea
22:08.42rhcp1253mac os is beastly but for beginers
22:10.57she_dyedsome1 showed me the IDE and she could code some python on it and its nice
22:13.51rhcp1253what is python based on
22:14.00rhcp1253wat is it used for
22:14.43she_dyedpython is the language thats used in a lot of apps some of them the ones you see in elive
22:14.58she_dyedwhat do you hack on anyway
22:15.00she_dyedbash
22:17.16rhcp1253i've made 3 or 400 viruses, lots of modded programs, itunes black and blue, vox with suport files for skined colors
22:17.21rhcp1253stuff like that
22:17.29rhcp1253lots of music programs
22:18.42rhcp1253have u ever tried hackintosh?
22:19.09she_dyedthat friend of mine did
22:19.58rhcp1253it is way overrated, u can't even use xcode rite
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22:31.13Theodenis listening to Quartet No. 1 in D minor - I. Allegro by Juan Cristostomo de Arriaga - The Chilingirian Quartet
22:32.27rhcp1253its so easy to crash someones computer using applescript
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