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08:28.07Gneahi
08:28.15she_dyedhey there
08:28.33Gneais etch still the preferred platform?
08:28.49Gneafor development releases, that is
08:29.18she_dyedidk, do you code?
08:30.13she_dyedmaybe its a question for #e guys
08:30.14Gneano, it's a question for elivecd people
08:30.14Gneano, i do not code
08:30.37she_dyedThanatermesis:  ping ( he might know_)
08:30.49she_dyedam just a user
08:31.15Thanatermesisetch ?
08:31.17Gneaok
08:31.19Thanatermesisetch is deprecated
08:31.19Gneahey dude
08:31.20Thanatermesisonly on Gem
08:31.25Gneaokay
08:31.26Thanatermesisdevelopment versions uses lenny
08:31.31Thanatermesisand soon will use squeeze :)
08:31.32Gneawell here's the scenario:
08:32.10GneaI've put elivecd (stable/etch) on a slow computer, so it will work again. it's for a friend. friend is kinda behind in the computing world, but likes what he's seen thus far.
08:32.40Gneabut the printer isn't working. I want to think that using a development (1.99.44) will fix that problem.
08:33.20Gneacan't get printing to work at all - tried installing hplip and everything I could think of
08:33.59Gnealenny is good, not as fast as the ubuntu release cycle, but a step up from etch ;)
08:34.38Thanatermesiswhat is better ? fast release cycle or a good result ? :)
08:34.45ThanatermesisGnea, how much RAM has this computer ?
08:36.33Gneaboth ;)
08:36.47GneaI think it's 128M... going to try to upgrade it to 256M if I can
08:36.57Gneamight be 192M, don't remember, won't know until tomorrow
08:37.06Thanatermesismmh
08:37.17Gneabut it's like a p3 600mhz or so
08:37.24Thanatermesisim not sure how a development version will work on it
08:37.27Thanatermesisthe ram is pretty small
08:37.44Gneawell, the stable version is meant to run on older hardware, I don't see why that would have changed
08:37.53Thanatermesishehe
08:37.56Thanatermesisis not that easy
08:37.58Thanatermesissoftware grows
08:38.00Thanatermesiskernel grows
08:38.03GneaI know it's all about the compiz now, but still
08:38.03Thanatermesiseven your console grows
08:38.16Gneaif the system can't handle it, compiz doesn't need to be on
08:38.17Thanatermesiseveryday there's new lines of code on EVERY piece of software of all the system
08:38.22Gneawell
08:38.23she_dyedyes at some point Thanatermesis when ecomorph came in
08:38.24Thanatermesisso, more lines of code means bigger binary file
08:38.26GneaI'm gonna try it anyway
08:38.29Gneahow's that? ;)
08:38.34Thanatermesisevertying makes to need more ram
08:39.12Thanatermesisalso, Elive support everytime more features
08:39.27she_dyedhere's where it stops for 600MHz machines
08:39.35she_dyedright before ecomorph
08:39.37Thanatermesiswell, 600 mhz is not that bad
08:39.40Thanatermesisthe problem is the ram
08:39.49Gneais not sure what ecomorph is
08:39.51Thanatermesislike i say, software grows, and is needed more ram to run newer software
08:40.08she_dyedthe rams top out at 512 maybe on old machines?
08:40.10Gneait sounds like it's not required
08:40.13Thanatermesiswill be good to test that too...
08:40.33ThanatermesisGnea, can you report me how good works the development version compared to the stable Gem one ?
08:40.39Gneaoh ok
08:40.46Gneayeah, this system won't be using ecomorph
08:40.50Thanatermesiswill need some old hardware in order to do tests
08:40.51Gneaof course
08:40.53she_dyedGnea: perhaps you've seen the compiz cube
08:40.58Gneashe_dyed: yes
08:41.01Gneashe_dyed: i just googled it
08:41.01she_dyedecomorph is e+compiz
08:41.10Gneai've seen the video on the site, it's tight
08:41.16Gneaand i've used the cube in ubuntu
08:41.44she_dyedbut on an old laptop no matter what boot options i throw at it, it seems to shrug and say well?
08:42.15Gneawell, there needs to be a point at which it says "oh ok, system won't support opengl, so disable it and run without the compiz stuff"
08:42.20she_dyedbut on my tower its good
08:42.30Gneamaybe that needs to be scripted
08:42.33Gneais a bash script wiz
08:42.56she_dyedThana wrote how to do it on the welcome screen i think
08:43.10she_dyedthe command to switch to regular one
08:43.12Gneawhich welcome screen
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08:43.20she_dyedwelcome scren on web browser that is
08:43.26Thanatermesis<Gnea> well, there needs to be a point at which it says "oh ok, system won't support opengl, so disable it and run without the compiz stuff"
08:43.32Thanatermesisyes, that's how things are made in Elive :)
08:43.44Gneawell
08:43.45she_dyed/usr/share/ecomorph/howto
08:43.56Gneayou mentioned that the devel release wants to use ecomorph
08:44.10Gneaif the system doesn't support the opengl, then why would the ram amount matter? :)
08:44.24Gneawell, I can see that - the current one runs slow on his sytem
08:44.30Gneathat's why I'm gonna try to up the ram
08:44.54Gneabut I want to get prepared beforehand, becuase I only have a certain amount of time that I can spend working onit
08:45.30Gneahe's bounced between e16 and e17 - e17 seems to work better (not surprizing)
08:45.44Thanatermesis<Gnea> if the system doesn't support the opengl, then why would the ram amount matter? :)
08:45.50Thanatermesisi have explained you
08:45.55Gneayes
08:45.56Thanatermesisevery day, every piece of software grows
08:46.00Gnea03:44 < Gnea> well, I can see that - the current one runs slow on his sytem
08:46.05Thanatermesisonly the kernel will double the size
08:46.09Thanatermesisa kernel is loaded in the ram
08:46.13Thanatermesisentirely
08:46.21Thanatermesisso that's a bunch of mb's used :)
08:46.22Gneathat's why modules are good ;)
08:46.39Thanatermesisanyways, the main kernel is bigger on every version of the kernel
08:46.48Thanatermesismain kernel also includes more code
08:46.51Gneawhat kernel is in the current devel release?
08:46.57Gneais redownloading it now, taking awhile
08:47.02Thanatermesis2.6.26, tomorrow 2.6.30 :)
08:47.06Gnealol
08:47.07Gneaok
08:47.32Gneai just booted 2.6.31 on my jaunty desktop - it's good, but no nvidia driver yet, so gonna fall back - and this x-fi still doesn't work properly
08:47.43Gnea(it's a usb, not pci)
08:47.56Thanatermesishas nvidia for 2.6.31
08:48.12she_dyedhmmm
08:48.15Gneayeah but you're probably not running ubuntu jaunty - there's a bit of a step-off between jaunty and karmic
08:48.24Thanatermesis$ ls /usr/src/debs/2.6.31-elive-686/*nvidia*
08:48.24Thanatermesis/usr/src/debs/2.6.31-elive-686/nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-2.6.31-elive-686_173.14.20-1+10.Elive_i386.deb
08:48.24Thanatermesis/usr/src/debs/2.6.31-elive-686/nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-2.6.31-elive-686_71.86.11-1+10.Elive_i386.deb
08:48.24Thanatermesis/usr/src/debs/2.6.31-elive-686/nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-2.6.31-elive-686_96.43.13-1+10.Elive_i386.deb
08:48.25Thanatermesis:)
08:48.26Gneakarmic already has 2.6.31
08:48.35Gneavery nice.
08:48.57she_dyedhow do i make nvidia blobs get picked up
08:49.03Gneawhat time do you expect tomorrow's version to be released? :)
08:49.25she_dyedi want to run xsetup or something
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08:49.40AlexAnteMachinahi all
08:50.03she_dyedhey AlexAnteMachina o/
08:50.13AlexAnteMachinahowdy, she_dyed
08:50.25ThanatermesisGnea, it will be start uploading in 1 hour if all is OK, then is needed 5-6 hours to finish the upload, the is needed to wait 1 hour that the "sync of mirrors" is called, and then wait that the mirrors finish to sync :)
08:51.01AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, that sounds like a new *.iso is about to be available.
08:51.21GneaThanatermesis: excellent! gives me time to sleep, shower, buy a telescope, and return home ;)
08:52.17AlexAnteMachinaa telescope... nice!
08:52.31Gneayeah, will be my first, been wanting one since i was a kid
08:52.48AlexAnteMachinahope your not a granny now.
08:52.55Gneanah, not yet lol
08:53.28AlexAnteMachinaI couldnt even use one.
08:53.37Gneawhy not?
08:53.41AlexAnteMachinatooooo many buildings around.
08:53.50she_dyedthey had it on Frasier AlexAnteMachina
08:53.50Gneagotta drive out to the country
08:53.57she_dyedthe hobby was condo watching
08:54.04Gnearofl
08:54.17she_dyedand they had to see a lady doing the same thing
08:54.18Gnealives in a rural area, so this will work out
08:54.20AlexAnteMachinasounds your going to get some more profressional device, Gnea
08:54.36she_dyedwhere you at Gnea?
08:54.41Gneaiowa
08:54.46Gneayou?
08:54.53she_dyedflorida
08:55.02AlexAnteMachinacondo watchin... poor guys.
08:55.16Gneai would imagine the beaches there would be good for stargazing
08:55.27Gneajust point it out over the ocean
08:55.36she_dyedyup
08:55.45Thanatermesis<AlexAnteMachina> Thanatermesis, that sounds like a new *.iso is about to be available.
08:55.50she_dyed'Why is that thing not pointing up'
08:55.57she_dyedsomeone musta knoecked it
08:55.58Gneaor take out a boat and don't let the surf slam it into your eye ;)
08:56.03Thanatermesisyes, in less than 24 h :)
08:56.11AlexAnteMachinanice to know!
08:56.22AlexAnteMachinahope it wont have that login-error.
08:56.34she_dyedby the time Gnea gets back, he bought a telescope, speaer system graphics card
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08:56.53she_dyedspeaker*
08:56.57AlexAnteMachinaand it also sounds like you are still using a very SLOW internet connection, Thanatermesis
08:57.16Gneawell, my friend's system isn't built for speed or graphics, it's built to get the basic jobs done
08:57.25Gneabut my system.. that's a different story
08:57.37she_dyedyou have good gear?
08:57.40AlexAnteMachinawhat r the basic jobs?
08:57.48AlexAnteMachinabooting up?
08:57.51Gneait's okay, just top-of-the-line 32bit
08:57.58Gnealol
08:58.01ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, well, i have limited the upload speed to 40 kb/s :)
08:58.07she_dyedso he's more the exception here
08:58.11Gneaemail, browsing the web, office, etc
08:58.35she_dyedyoutube?
08:58.38Gneamy geforce is only a fx 5500
08:58.42AlexAnteMachinaYOU limited your own upload????? Thanatermesis that sounds little more weird then I was expecting you to be!!!
08:58.46Gneadon't get me started on flash... ugh
08:58.51Gneait can't do video worth a crap
08:59.16ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, using the max. upload available is very bad for the rest of things that needs connection
08:59.20Thanatermesisit gives a lot of lag
08:59.24AlexAnteMachinaGnea, why not getting some better grphix-card?
08:59.25Thanatermesiseven disconnections
08:59.30Gneaeventually, he will upgrade. but, that time is not now, so trying to make do with what's available :)
08:59.38GneaAlexAnteMachina: he needs a whole new system
08:59.45she_dyedtrue
08:59.54Gneait's not use putting a pci geforce in a p3 600
08:59.55AlexAnteMachinak
08:59.58AlexAnteMachinaconvinced.
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09:00.02Gnea:)
09:00.14Elive_user67_enhi
09:00.16AlexAnteMachinap3? jeeeeses!
09:00.20Gneayup
09:00.20she_dyedhey there
09:00.52Gneabut, aside from DSL, EliveCD is the only distro that's decent enough that works on it
09:01.06AlexAnteMachinayo
09:01.19she_dyedElive_user67_en: you can change your nick with /nick newname
09:01.32Elive_user67_enthanks
09:01.43vestiniousok
09:02.00AlexAnteMachinafrined of mine got a pretty new quadcore gear.... it's running Vista pretty fluent.
09:02.10AlexAnteMachinaI'd like trying Elive on it.
09:02.12vestiniousi tried he 1.0 version and no wireless but the latest dev version is ok for me
09:02.17Gneagags and almost chokes on his dr. pepper
09:02.32Gneayou said the V-word ;)
09:02.32she_dyedand the wifi works vestinious?
09:02.44vestiniouson the dev version yes
09:02.47keyrashe_dyed: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
09:02.47she_dyedGnea: lol
09:03.05AlexAnteMachinavestinious, lol.... back in Gem-Times wifi was not invented, yet!
09:03.14she_dyedso whats next vestinious
09:03.42vestiniousjust installing it now to test, looks all ok on the live cd so far
09:04.17AlexAnteMachinavestinious, and next dev-release is about to be uploaded.
09:04.18AlexAnteMachina;)
09:04.28vestiniousgood
09:04.57Gneawithin 10 hours
09:05.40vestiniousso I picked a good time to install, same day new version comes out
09:05.52AlexAnteMachinadefinately.
09:05.55Gneayup :)
09:06.38Gneaif I can swing it, I'm gonna try to get a eeepc in a couple months
09:06.48Gneathen, I will throw elivecd on it
09:06.49vestiniouscoming from the V-word this makes the computer run smooth with none of that crud in the background, I should have moved to linux years ago - live and learn
09:06.51AlexAnteMachinawhich one?
09:07.04Gneanot sure yet, probably 900-series
09:07.04keyravestinious: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
09:07.19vestiniousok
09:07.19GneaI don't wanna break the bank, but I don't want crap, eithc
09:07.21Gnea*either
09:07.36AlexAnteMachinaGnea, 900 series has a small keyboard.
09:07.47GneaAlexAnteMachina: plug in a usb keyboard
09:07.56AlexAnteMachinathe 1000-series has a better one.
09:08.01Gneabut costs more
09:08.14AlexAnteMachinanot sure
09:08.21Gneafor less than the difference in cost between the 900 and 1000, I can get a bigger keyboard for less
09:08.34Gnea-for less, since I already stated that lol
09:08.59AlexAnteMachinalol... but carrying a large keyboard with you would ruin the Netbook-Effect!
09:09.01AlexAnteMachina*gg*
09:09.03Gneaactually, I already have a docking station, so that problem's pretty much taken care of
09:09.10Gneadepending on the situation
09:09.18keyraGnea: Don't be shy! Just ask.  :)
09:09.30Gneaif I'm parked somewhere with the eeepc mounted to the middle-dash, the keyboard would work excellent ;)
09:09.33AlexAnteMachinaYeah! Gnea dont be shy!
09:09.42Gneadon't be shy about what?
09:09.48AlexAnteMachinadunno.
09:09.50Gnealol
09:09.50AlexAnteMachinaaske keyra
09:09.53Gneakeyra: ?
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09:10.37AlexAnteMachinashe wont answer that way.
09:10.47Gneawell, she's seen the question, so.. :)
09:10.53AlexAnteMachinalol
09:11.16Gneakeyra: alright, what would I be asking about? :P
09:11.19AlexAnteMachinaGnea, i got a feeling you havent been here pretty often.
09:11.26Gneanot really
09:11.30AlexAnteMachinalol
09:11.33Gneai come in here once in a blue moon
09:11.42Gneaand tonight, it's like the ocean
09:11.43Gnea;)
09:11.45AlexAnteMachinado you know what chatbots are?
09:11.55Gneagot an idea
09:11.57Gneaoh
09:12.04Gneakeyra is a bot?
09:12.05AlexAnteMachinaask her wether she's one.
09:12.08AlexAnteMachinalol
09:12.11Gneakeyra: you're a bot?
09:12.17Gneakeyra: are you a bot?
09:12.19keyraGnea: you think so?
09:12.25Gneakeyra: i think so what?
09:12.29Gneakeyra: hi.
09:12.33keyraGnea: me?
09:12.36Gneathis is dumb. :)
09:12.47keyraGnea: bot
09:13.04AlexAnteMachinanow it's getting interesting.
09:13.12Gneanow she's fucking with me.
09:13.23vestiniouslol
09:15.03AlexAnteMachinaapt, give a cookie to Gnea
09:15.14aptACTION gives cookie to Gnea to a
09:15.24AlexAnteMachinadamn... wrong syntax
09:15.28Gneaheh
09:15.35AlexAnteMachinaapt, give Gnea a cookie
09:15.36aptACTION gives Gnea a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
09:15.45AlexAnteMachinayo!
09:16.27she_dyednice
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09:16.41Gneaburns the wool that was attempted to be put over my eyes in a little heap on the floor
09:16.58AlexAnteMachinawool?????
09:17.22vestiniousinstalled and back
09:17.38AlexAnteMachinagot a feeling of not getting it...
09:17.39she_dyedinstalled huh
09:17.44vestiniousyep
09:17.59AlexAnteMachinaoh, another one who deserves a cookie.
09:18.15AlexAnteMachinaapt, give vestinious a cookie
09:18.16aptACTION gives vestinious a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
09:18.16vestiniouscheers i am hungry
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09:19.16AlexAnteMachinaI wonder how apt knows vestinious is male
09:19.39vestiniouslucky guess ?
09:20.02AlexAnteMachinachances are good... there are just 3 geners.
09:20.06AlexAnteMachinagenders.
09:21.35she_dyedM,F, bot?
09:21.49AlexAnteMachinano, male, female + me
09:22.12she_dyedwhat happened in The Clinic?
09:22.18AlexAnteMachinanot sure.
09:22.25AlexAnteMachinacan hardly remember.
09:23.09AlexAnteMachinaBut ... there is this strange drive ...
09:23.44AlexAnteMachinatelling me to drink coffee and eat american strudel cookies!?!?
09:23.59she_dyedheh
09:24.09AlexAnteMachinastrange. i know.
09:24.30vestinioushmm no sound
09:24.45AlexAnteMachinaI'm longing for the old days when i was eating jucy fresh brain!
09:24.59she_dyedzombietime!
09:25.09she_dyedvestinious: its not just mute?
09:25.42AlexAnteMachinavestinious, let me have a look at your nice brain!
09:25.56vestinioustrying to find how to use the volume controls
09:26.34AlexAnteMachinaThis brain is much too heavy for you. Let me replace it by some lightweight cookies!
09:27.03she_dyedin menu apps sound
09:27.40vestinioushmm, no volumd control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
09:28.34she_dyedmake sure dmesg | grep
09:28.38vestiniousit is running the first boot setup so that may be an issue
09:28.42she_dyedgrep either audio or sound
09:29.02she_dyedlike dmesg | grep alsa
09:29.19she_dyedor dmesg | grep sound
09:29.53vestinioushow do I get that line  ?
09:30.10she_dyedits above my backslash key
09:30.18she_dyedor copy n paste lol
09:30.32keyrashe_dyed: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
09:31.15she_dyedthank you keyra, you love me so
09:31.29keyrashe_dyed: Yes, I love you
09:32.08Gneathis is a different kind of bot
09:32.13Gneaweird
09:32.44she_dyednot a slavebot like the one you're used to
09:33.18Gneai see
09:33.36Gneakinda hard to call it a slave when it's not technically alive
09:34.03Gneabut anyway
09:34.31AlexAnteMachinawell, sometimes keyra is useful... and sometimes keyra is a pain.
09:34.46keyraAlexAnteMachina: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis
09:34.58AlexAnteMachinasee what I mean?
09:35.18she_dyedat one point i /ignored her
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09:35.45she_dyedbecause i was helping someone out and she had to butt in at every instance of the word terminal
09:36.00keyrashe_dyed: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
09:36.00AlexAnteMachinalol
09:36.10she_dyedsee?
09:36.26AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, do you know what that should tell us??
09:36.28she_dyedreaches for shotgun
09:36.44she_dyedwhat
09:36.58AlexAnteMachinaI was rewriting keyras DB some month ago and was struggeling with some messages.
09:37.07AlexAnteMachinawhat what?
09:37.15AlexAnteMachinathis terminal config thing.
09:37.27AlexAnteMachinawhats keyra tryin to tell one?
09:37.54she_dyedthat was when elpanel did most stuff
09:38.00she_dyednot settings panel
09:38.40AlexAnteMachinawell, elpanel still offers terminal-settings.
09:39.18she_dyedhavent tried it yet
09:39.27AlexAnteMachinajesus!
09:39.48she_dyedwhat? stock term works fine once
09:40.21she_dyedafter that, its urxvt all the way
09:40.26she_dyed<3 urxvt
09:40.39AlexAnteMachinathats over my head.
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09:45.12vestiniousno sound
09:45.36she_dyeddid it have sound in liveCD mode?
09:45.44vestiniousyes
09:46.34vestiniousunable to run gnome-volume-control
09:46.42vestiniousfalied to start
09:47.13she_dyedgo back to liveCD mode to get as much info as you can, HW, driver used, was it alsa etc
09:47.41she_dyedthere is nurse mode but i dont think its complete yet
09:48.11vestiniousok thanks, I will give that a try
09:49.38she_dyedsee the boot options on liveCD
09:49.47she_dyedthat made it possible to pick up sound
09:50.14she_dyedmaybe in the installed version it wasnt there maybe like acpi=force
09:50.34vestiniousok I will look now
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09:59.47vestiniousin live cd mode now, sound ok
10:05.22vestinioushi
10:05.57she_dyedalsa?
10:07.14AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, do you know how to start this nurse-thing?
10:07.38vestiniousyep alsa
10:08.42she_dyedi asked thana AlexAnteMachina but he said it wasnt full featured on an upgrade i did
10:09.05AlexAnteMachinahmm,..
10:09.24she_dyedtype nurs>tab> to see the command
10:09.30she_dyedtype nurs<tab> to see the command
10:11.02AlexAnteMachinanothin
10:11.04she_dyedalso dmesg will show you the entire boot command it used vestinious
10:11.15she_dyedtowards the beginning
10:11.46vestiniousin terminal ?
10:12.01keyravestinious: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
10:12.18vestiniousok
10:12.24she_dyedhmmm how long you been using linux
10:12.34vestiniousnot long at all, 2 weeks
10:12.50she_dyedi hate to assume, oh i thought you were the ubuntu
10:12.53she_dyedguy
10:13.03vestiniousno
10:13.08AlexAnteMachina2 weks!
10:13.13she_dyeddmesg | less so it doesnt scroll too fast
10:13.22AlexAnteMachinawelcome to linux-world, vestinious !
10:13.25AlexAnteMachina;)
10:13.31vestiniousthanks
10:14.05vestiniousok done that, long list now
10:14.14she_dyedfigured out that bar on the keybaord, is it same place as mine, abovce backslash
10:15.20AlexAnteMachinavestinious, what keyboard layout r u using?
10:15.23she_dyedyou will see a long one or type /boot to scan
10:15.55vestiniousfound the |
10:15.57AlexAnteMachinahe'll see a long one???
10:16.01AlexAnteMachinayo.
10:16.12AlexAnteMachinathat | is called "pipe"
10:16.14vestiniouslaptop
10:18.09she_dyedone of the scan should turn up the original boot command
10:19.58vestiniousim looking at the dmesg reult now
10:20.13AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, couldnt one simply read the bootup messages?
10:20.17she_dyedto scan is /boot
10:20.52she_dyeddoes it provide scan AlexAnteMachina
10:21.04AlexAnteMachinahuh?
10:21.08she_dyedit has a good numer of pages
10:21.18Gneaokay, booted up the latest devel on this system
10:21.20Gneapretty nice
10:21.21she_dyedand i want to be able to scan
10:21.29AlexAnteMachinai was just thinking about reading the messages during bootup!
10:21.32vestinioustyping /boot in termiinal ?
10:21.52she_dyedvestinious: while still on the dmesg output
10:22.30she_dyedthats shorthand for scan for the word boot
10:22.55she_dyedn is for next
10:22.55vestiniousok il try that
10:23.11she_dyeddont enter on a blank screen, enter it while viewing dmesg
10:23.26keyrashe_dyed: if you have problems (blank screen) with unetbootin, press TAB and remove the 'vga=xxx' part before to boot
10:35.13AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, do you know the OpenMoKo Project?
10:35.48she_dyedhave heard of it and seen a few clips
10:36.08she_dyedits the phone design that needs work
10:36.39AlexAnteMachinado you think so?
10:36.42AlexAnteMachinay?
10:37.12she_dyedback then it looked shall we say, unusual
10:37.26AlexAnteMachinahuh?
10:37.33she_dyedthe shape
10:37.41AlexAnteMachinathe freerunner looked very useful.
10:37.45AlexAnteMachinaits shape?
10:37.54AlexAnteMachinawhats wrong with its shape?
10:38.01she_dyedgive me a link maybe they've changed
10:41.03AlexAnteMachinahttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner/de
10:44.13she_dyedit looks like something to wear on the neck with a shape like that
10:45.07Gneawonders why this thing lags so much when the full graphics isn't even started
10:45.40she_dyedGnea: you're the one with nvidia, did it detect?
10:45.50Gneayeah, got the right driver loaded
10:45.59Gneabut the bling module is crap
10:46.17she_dyeddid you enable it, you shouldnt have to
10:46.21Gneaand there's no ecomorph
10:46.33Gneaid on't see it in any menu
10:46.34she_dyedoh no i know what you're going thru
10:46.55Gneaa crap version? :)
10:47.35she_dyedi did a manual upgrade that doesnt know i have an nvidia
10:47.52she_dyedand only uses nv (free ver)
10:48.21she_dyedbut if it detected, and installed nvidia drivers you should be ok
10:48.30Gneai'm [eliveuser ~]$ lsmod | grep nvidia
10:48.30Gneanvidia               7090888  24
10:48.47she_dyednow check /etc/X11/xorg
10:48.50Gnea(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
10:48.52she_dyednow check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
10:49.04she_dyedto see if it says nv or nvidia
10:49.06Gnea<PROTECTED>
10:49.11she_dyedshould be nvidia
10:49.14Gneait is
10:49.17Gneaso that worked right
10:49.44she_dyedwait did the setup thing advise using legacy nvidia?
10:49.45Gneai'm just running the livecd, can ecomorph even work off of this or does it have to be installed to the hdd?
10:49.55Gneayes
10:50.05Gneait's a fx 5500, so it falls under the 173 category
10:50.28Gneai've used the ubuntu compiz with it without any problems
10:51.32Gneaif i go to settings->advanced, it allows me to change the engine
10:51.34she_dyedi know, this one worked really well before i upgraded
10:51.38Gneaif i change it to XRENDER, nothing happens
10:52.04Gneadoes composite have to be enabled?
10:52.29she_dyeddont know if that will affect
10:52.49Gneadeosn't seem to change anything
10:53.17she_dyedyour menus show up though right?
10:53.42Gnearegular menus? yeah - left, middle and right clicks
10:54.14she_dyedi wouldnt sweat installing that then if the live/demo mode is crap
10:54.44Gneahow is ecomorph supposed to work anyway?
10:54.55Gneai've never used it like this before - should be obvious, but it's not
10:55.11she_dyedexactly
10:55.30she_dyedtry running ecsm from cli
10:55.47she_dyedthose will show you what effects are available
10:55.50Gneabash: ecsm: command not found
10:56.06she_dyedoh its in settings now
10:56.20Gneajust dialogs and profiles
10:56.35Gneaalready have ecomorph selected
10:56.38she_dyedno
10:56.45she_dyedsomeplace like engine
10:56.49she_dyedfarther to the right
10:57.12Gneadon't see it
10:57.20she_dyed1 sec
10:57.27Gneain advanced is engine
10:57.36Gneaagain, changing those changes nothing
10:57.44Gneawait
10:57.57Gneai disabled composite before..
10:58.05Gneanow i went to enable it and i get a message
10:58.25Gnea"You have chosen to enable composite support, but your current screen does not support composite. Are you sure you wish to enable composite support?"
10:58.33Gneait's a bloody nvidia, it supports composite!
10:58.46Gneaenables it anyway
10:59.43Gneaefreet_desktop_new error: no Desktop Entry section
10:59.51Gneahrm
11:00.04Gneaokay, guess i'll keep my fingers crossed for the next version heh
11:00.25she_dyedextensions modules see if
11:00.33she_dyedecomorpn needs loading
11:00.57AlexAnteMachinaecomorph still has some probs
11:01.07Gneathere is no ecomorph module
11:01.11she_dyedoh that pop up sayign reinstall?
11:02.10she_dyedi have it undersystem
11:02.28AlexAnteMachinaguess i'll restart tesing ecomorph-version when it's become more stable/usable.
11:02.37Gneawhat system
11:03.11she_dyedextensions modules system
11:03.54she_dyedthen it added to my menu
11:04.02she_dyedso i can configure it
11:04.05Gneaall i got in system is
11:04.17Gneabattery cpufreq dbus places run temperature
11:04.49she_dyedit only loaded on the menu after i loaded the module
11:04.51Gneaand loaded is: file manager internet itask ng mixer run system controls window switcher
11:05.18she_dyedyou sure you didnt see it insettings panel < extensions > modules
11:05.18AlexAnteMachinau need to go to "modules" and load it first.
11:05.28Gneaload WHAT?!
11:05.38she_dyedecomorph
11:05.43Gneadoes not exist!
11:05.45Gneait's not there
11:05.47Gneakaput
11:05.52Gneaecomorph == 0
11:05.56Gnea<PROTECTED>
11:05.58she_dyednull
11:06.02AlexAnteMachinaKaputt?
11:06.05AlexAnteMachinaLOOL!
11:06.06she_dyedjinx! buy me a coke
11:06.09Gnealol
11:06.18Gneasettle for a dr. pepper?
11:06.25she_dyeddiet?
11:06.31Gnearegular
11:06.40she_dyedplease upload :)
11:06.45Gneahahaha
11:06.57she_dyedhey this is only half full!
11:07.24she_dyedgo to synaptic
11:07.31AlexAnteMachinaapt, give she_dyed a dr. pepper
11:07.32aptACTION gives a dr. pepper to she_dyed
11:07.42she_dyedoh thanks apt!
11:07.47she_dyednice to meet you
11:07.56AlexAnteMachina;)
11:08.06she_dyedoh could i have a lice of your pizza?
11:08.16Gneapizza gone
11:08.29she_dyedman
11:08.36she_dyedhis DSL beat mine!
11:08.44Gneawtf is there no ecomorph? :(
11:09.10Gneathe website lies! there is no compiz! :P
11:09.27Gnearuns off to tell raster
11:09.30she_dyedits ecomoprh-e17
11:09.43Gneawhere should it be? in apt you say?
11:09.45she_dyedsynaptic man
11:09.53Gneayeah, apt = synaptic
11:09.57she_dyedbut a word of caution
11:10.05Gnea[root ~]# apt-cache search ecomorph
11:10.05Gnea[root ~]#
11:10.24she_dyedam guessing it should have installed there automatically after the nvidia was detected
11:10.24Gneaduh, helps if i update first
11:10.41Gneaecomorph-e17 - ecomorph for e17
11:10.56Gnea[root ~]# dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep ecomorph
11:10.57Gnea[root ~]#
11:11.00Gneanope, it never installed it
11:11.53Gneait's installing all sorts of updates
11:12.26Gneathis is much nicer than the stable/etch release
11:12.32Gneaat least there are REAL updates now
11:13.12Gneaand, fyi - i might bitch a bit while figuring things out, but doesn't mean i'm taking offense or anything
11:13.47Gneaok, updates installed
11:13.53Gneaguess i'll ctrl-alt-backspace it now
11:14.53she_dyedhave a cold one ready
11:15.06she_dyedbeer, drPepper whatever
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11:17.38Gneaalright
11:17.43Gneagot it to load
11:17.46Gneanow configuring :D
11:20.44Gneahrm
11:20.56Gneais it working? i set settings and tell it to start and it does nothing
11:21.09she_dyedctl-alt-o
11:21.14she_dyedor ctl-alt-l?
11:21.40Gneano
11:21.46Gneathat's lock windows and lock desktop
11:22.21she_dyedF9?
11:22.25Gneaoh, of course
11:22.28Gneakeybindings
11:23.05Gneano wobbly windows, nothing...hrm
11:27.18she_dyedthe menus should puff of smoke
11:27.26Gneathey don't do squat
11:28.20she_dyedwhats the theme you have, default theme?
11:28.24she_dyedthe blackwhite
11:29.57Gneayeah
11:30.19Gneaokay i ctrl-alt-backspace and explicitly enabled composite from the ncurses menu
11:30.26Gneanow the background image has disappeared
11:30.41keyraGnea: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
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11:35.18she_dyedoh Gnea that enlightenment_remote has a new version and everything before
11:35.33she_dyedis like enligtenment_remote_old
11:37.00Gneawhat?
11:37.24she_dyedat least mine said so
11:37.31Gneai see it in the tab
11:37.34Gneabut it means nothing to me
11:37.54Gneafuckit, i'm rebooting
11:47.01Gneaokay
11:47.22Gneamaking a video of this ;)
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11:47.33marteohello
11:47.52she_dyedare you kidding me, its working now gnea
11:47.56she_dyedhey marteo
11:49.37marteounetbootin doesn't work here to build a bootable elive usb
11:49.51keyramarteo: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
11:51.42marteohaha keyra you're cute
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11:54.54marteo_oh, what a crap
11:55.23she_dyedam dealing with that too
11:55.33she_dyedcrap that is
11:55.48she_dyedbbs, trying live CD mode
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11:57.34Gneahrm
11:58.22Elive_user75_enhello everyone... an open non distro question. does anyone know about an lightweight nice webserver able to use php?
12:02.26Gneanot sure if lighttpd supports php
12:02.37Gneamaybe thttpd
12:04.36Elive_user75_enoki. thanks. gonna check those two up.
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12:40.31GneaThanatermesis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhYOhXY6OI
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12:46.54AlexAnteMachinaanybody having knowledge in using the Mail Gadget?
12:49.08AlexAnteMachinatoo bad.
12:51.39Gneanot yet
12:51.44Gneahey
12:51.51GneaAlexAnteMachina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhYOhXY6OI
12:51.55Gnealet me know what you think :)
12:51.59Gneajust made that video
12:52.41AlexAnteMachinafirst thing: dude, get a tripod!
12:53.22AlexAnteMachinait'll flicker 4 times.
12:53.43Gnealol
12:53.47Gneagot 3 tripods :p
12:53.56Gneabut my blackberry doesn't work on them
12:54.02AlexAnteMachinay not using one?
12:54.14AlexAnteMachinak... some tape might fix it.
12:54.18Gneaplus i can't zoom in real time with it
12:54.25Gneanoway
12:54.34AlexAnteMachinanoway?
12:54.38Gneaneed a decent desktop recording software
12:54.42Gneahrm
12:55.01AlexAnteMachinawell, one cannot use recording software while system is booting!
12:55.10Gneatrue
12:55.22AlexAnteMachinaexcept: run elive in a virtual system!!
12:55.24Gneabut I can once it's up and running and just run it through avidemux or something
12:55.36Gneathen I could just meld it ;)
12:55.42AlexAnteMachinameld???
12:55.57Gneayeah, using a transition
12:56.12AlexAnteMachinayou've tried to show your typings... but its not readable.
12:56.17Gneai know
12:56.19AlexAnteMachinameld????????
12:56.23Gneabut it doesn't matter
12:56.31Gneayou can still figure out what's going on
12:56.36Gneaat least, you should be able to
12:57.09Gneayou know how Thanatermesis used cinelerra to make that elivecd video with the girls?
12:57.23keyraGnea: cinelerra r0cks!
12:57.27Gneathe transitions between various parts of the video are 'melding'
12:57.30Gneaheh
12:58.06AlexAnteMachinamelding????
12:58.13AlexAnteMachinastill not getting it.
12:58.24Gneaif you're not into A/V editting, nevermind
12:58.47Gneathat was a quick 'n dirty video i made anyway
12:58.56Gneacertainly not for real production anyway
13:02.43AlexAnteMachinak
13:03.07Gneabut I wanted to point some odd things out that may or may not help
13:03.08AlexAnteMachinawas afraid  you'd like to show that to "n00bs".
13:03.20Gneano, it's strictly a technical video only
13:03.20AlexAnteMachinaah, okay.
13:03.37AlexAnteMachinayou may email that link to Thanatermesis
13:03.46GneaI already pasted him the url here
13:03.46AlexAnteMachinamaybe it's helpful to him.
13:03.48AlexAnteMachina:)
13:03.51Gneayeah :)
13:04.22AlexAnteMachinanice idea. better than "normal" reports and with less misunderstandings!
13:11.14Gneaexactly
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15:56.30ThanatermesisGnea, this youtube video is yours ?
15:57.48she_dyeddid he give a link? How did he fix this video
15:57.53she_dyedi mean
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15:58.24Thanatermesis<Gnea> Thanatermesis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhYOhXY6OI
15:58.38Thanatermesison the video it says that there's some unconsistencies on the system because there's flickers
15:58.55Thanatermesishe's not the only person to think that these flickers are "something wrong"
15:58.59Thanatermesisa lot of users thinks that
15:59.05Thanatermesisbut the thing is that they are NOT wrong
15:59.10Thanatermesisthey are just post-configurations
15:59.17Thanatermesisthey are restarts of e17
15:59.25Thanatermesisthey are good! they are needed :)
15:59.45Thanatermesisany idea about how to prevent the user to think bad about that ? (except by adding another annoying popup at the start)
16:00.49she_dyedmaybe a comment about the recording software
16:05.26Thanatermesiswhere ?
16:05.33Thanatermesisi mean in Elive itself
16:05.39Thanatermesisso that the users dont think this is bad
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16:38.03vestinioushi
16:38.29she_dyedwb vestinious
16:38.30LinuxNIThi
16:39.30vestiniousthnks
16:40.56vestiniousgot sound to work in the compiz dev version but then updated and killed the 3d effects :(
16:42.08vestiniousdoes anyone know if the newer version uploaded soon have a new version of the compiz ?
16:44.28she_dyedman it affected you
16:44.35she_dyedwhats your graphics card
16:44.42vestiniousati hd 2400
16:45.46vestiniousit does say in the elivecompiz irc channel NOT to update the ecomorph part but I didnt see that until to late
16:46.00keyravestinious: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
16:46.40she_dyedno i think that was referring to pice by pice upgrade
16:46.55she_dyedpiece *
16:46.58vestiniousi just used the mark all
16:47.21vestiniousand then when I unmarked the ecomorph part it still updated it
16:47.42she_dyedthe way it works unless am told otherwise is to grab the ISO and burn
16:49.06vestiniousyeah that what i did, it was when it was installed that I ran synaptic and marked all
16:50.04she_dyedwasnt the ISO the lastest and greatest?
16:50.42vestinious1.4.42 IIRC, the only one to download
16:51.12she_dyedand SOP would be to keep it as is
16:51.22she_dyeddont touch it, no update
16:51.44she_dyedthis isn't as mature as other distros in that regard
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16:54.50vestiniousi just noticed the dev version is now at 1.9.45 so updated - worth a punt to try if the sound issues fixed
16:54.55AlexAnteMachinahi all
16:55.00vestinioushi
16:56.24vestiniousive got to say as a linux newbie this is a very nice and simple to you distro - OK im having issues but still its a friefdly and helpful community
16:56.38AlexAnteMachina:)
16:57.47AlexAnteMachinaanybody knows why latest dev-version has this "linuxuser" in its name?
16:58.04vestiniousdo you have to buy 2.0 when it comes out if you have already brought 1.0 (got it last night and wireless sisnt work)
16:58.17vestiniousnope
16:58.31vestiniousim downloading that now
16:59.13AlexAnteMachiname too
16:59.41vestiniousBRB
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17:09.32she_dyedi saw that linuxuser too Alex
17:09.38vestiniousback and burning :)
17:09.59vestiniousis the linuxuser part an issue /
17:10.01vestinious?
17:10.13she_dyedi dont know
17:10.23she_dyedits like, just "there"
17:10.38vestinioussoon see anyway !
17:12.18vestiniousI hope the sound issue works in this version, it does in the compiz version
17:13.42vestiniouswho is the designer in here ?
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17:20.04vestiniousthe linuxuser part is about a wallpaper of a german magazine
17:20.08she_dyeddesigner? as in theme?
17:20.19keyravestinious: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
17:21.00vestiniousit flashed up but now gone back to normal - like a splash screen thing
17:23.06vestiniousnot designer programmer
17:24.09she_dyedThana mostly
17:24.28vestinioushow do I keep my nickname ?
17:24.48she_dyedwhat client do you use? go to prefs
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17:24.59vestiniousits xchat
17:24.59she_dyedbut to make it stick on freenode, register
17:25.30vestiniousregister ?
17:25.46she_dyedso bobody grabs it but you
17:25.49she_dyednobody*
17:26.00vestiniousok that makes sense
17:26.41Elive_user93_delol
17:27.15Elive_user93_debobody always tried grabbing my nick!
17:27.17Elive_user93_dehates Bobody!
17:27.30she_dyeddont touch her she got boobs
17:27.35she_dyedoh wait bobs
17:27.39Elive_user93_delol
17:27.47Elive_user93_debob's boobs
17:28.01Elive_user93_deshe_dyed, know fight club?
17:28.11Elive_user93_deremember bob?
17:28.19she_dyedits one of my faves are you kidding
17:28.32she_dyedyes and Norton burried in them
17:28.36vestiniousok think ive fixed it
17:28.49she_dyedfor xchat right?
17:29.11vestiniousregistered on freenode
17:29.38she_dyedNow vestinious is a man of ACTION
17:29.59Elive_user93_dehes the man.
17:30.10she_dyedMan with the nnick
17:30.45Elive_user93_demakes some tea
17:31.08vestiniousthink thats done need to test
17:31.22Elive_user93_dehes gone
17:31.30she_dyedwas going to test
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17:31.39she_dyedwhat about you Elive_user93_de
17:31.47Elive_user93_deme?
17:31.50she_dyedha Alex its you isnt it
17:31.54Elive_user93_deyo
17:31.59she_dyedlols
17:32.15she_dyedthat clinic put an implant in your brain
17:32.29Elive_user93_dejust running latest dev in livemode.
17:32.37Elive_user93_denow installing...
17:32.55Elive_user93_denow i know why its got this
17:32.59she_dyedvestinious saw that that linuxuser is some slashscreen from a german magazine
17:33.04Elive_user93_de"linuxuser" in its name.
17:33.11vestiniousyeah
17:33.28Elive_user93_deyes.
17:33.30she_dyeddoes it come with coverdiscs?
17:33.38she_dyedI think we have that english edition here
17:33.40Elive_user93_dewith what?
17:33.54she_dyedwith distros and apps and stuff
17:34.03Elive_user93_dedoverciscs?
17:34.05Elive_user93_dek
17:34.12Elive_user93_deyes it does.
17:34.12she_dyedCD mostly
17:34.55she_dyedlike i said, my spelling is good, the keys are in the wrong place
17:36.06Elive_user93_deah.
17:36.58vestiniousright time to test the new version out
17:37.00vestiniousBRB
17:37.34Elive_user93_deshe_dyed, is your keyboard related to Tom Waits' Piano?
17:38.03she_dyedmore like the guy from COldplay
17:39.47Elive_user93_dehuh???
17:39.48Elive_user93_dedidnt get it
17:40.20she_dyedshould give you the Youtube link he made the sweetest sound
17:41.11Elive_user93_denot now please
17:41.25she_dyedyou're on the eee!!
17:44.21Elive_user93_deyes.
17:44.28Elive_user93_deinstalling 1.9.45
17:44.55Elive_user93_deAND having just 14% power left.
17:46.36she_dyedliving on THE EDGE!!!
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17:50.06Elive_user93_de11% left and dropping....
17:50.26she_dyedno outlet?
17:50.38Elive_user93_deno what?
17:50.43vestiniousback and with sound
17:50.45vestinious!!!!
17:50.47she_dyedpower outlet?
17:50.52she_dyedw00t!!!
17:50.59Elive_user93_desounds good, vestinious !!
17:51.03Elive_user93_de;)
17:51.06Elive_user93_dewoot???
17:51.07she_dyeddont update!!
17:51.09Elive_user93_dewhats woot?
17:51.18she_dyedits a cheer when done online
17:51.24Elive_user93_delol... power outlet... of course.
17:52.27Elive_user93_degot several... but want to let the battery drop below 5% until recharging.
17:52.29vestiniousno not updating until told or next dev version - lesson learned there :)
17:52.49she_dyedso NOW may I welcome you to Elive lolz
17:53.05vestiniousyeah, now Im happy
17:53.29Elive_user93_delol. vestinious did you break a system by upgrading?
17:53.55vestiniousoh yeah !, new to this linux stuff and failed big time
17:54.02Elive_user93_deyou could also have tried dist-upgrade
17:54.16keyraElive_user93_de: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
17:54.44vestinioushow do you ignore keyra ?
17:54.50Elive_user93_deif it breaks then.... it's mostly totally lost.
17:54.52Elive_user93_de*gg*
17:54.52Elive_user93_debut reinstall is no problem.
17:54.59keyravestinious: I do how do you don't do my doyoudo when I do
17:55.04Elive_user93_deignore keyra? I dont do.
17:55.15Elive_user93_deargh...
17:57.07vestiniousbah
17:58.27she_dyed<PROTECTED>
17:58.35she_dyedlike /help ignore
17:59.03she_dyedbut when she comes from the future and starts tracking people down...
17:59.19vestinioustrue play it safe :)
18:01.05Elive_user93_desounds like she_dyed has watched District 9 once too often...
18:08.39Elive_user93_deshe_dyed, install finished and outlet connected.
18:08.44Elive_user93_denow rebooting...
18:08.50she_dyedmade it
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18:17.09AlexAnteMachinabeep beep
18:17.23vestiniouswhats the version of thunderbird for this ?
18:19.47vestiniousfound it
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18:22.57DaRtH_VaDeRInstalled Elive on the AA1 few hours ago, fine-tuned it, and everything seems to work out of the box, even the wireless, except the audio which is too low. I had the same probem with ubuntu hardy heron on the AA1. Trying to fix this.
18:23.05DaRtH_VaDeRthat is from elive group on facebook xDDDDDD
18:23.08DaRtH_VaDeR<PROTECTED>
18:23.10DaRtH_VaDeRhi! :D
18:23.21she_dyedMy Lord
18:25.08she_dyedwonder if he was able to fix
18:25.44DaRtH_VaDeRhe wasnt   /o\ \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\ \o/ /o\ \o/
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18:26.32DaRtH_VaDeRel 09 de septiembre de 2009 a las 5:40
18:26.32DaRtH_VaDeRRight, I take that back. 1.9.43 on AA1 does not work out of the box. There are the usual issues with wireless after suspend/hibernate.
18:26.49DaRtH_VaDeRdamn, i've got to go =/
18:26.50AlexAnteMachinawhats a aa1?
18:26.55DaRtH_VaDeRmtfbwy
18:26.56AlexAnteMachinanotebook?
18:27.00DaRtH_VaDeRsep
18:27.01DaRtH_VaDeRyes
18:27.06vestiniousthe new version for me works perfectly and with no issues what so ever
18:27.23AlexAnteMachinaaa1 is a very funny name.
18:27.42she_dyedthink i'll go eat
18:27.54vestiniousyeah im thinking the same
18:28.30AlexAnteMachinaif you replace the "1" by an "l" it's the german word for eel!
18:29.28vestiniousnext stupid question....how do I add icedove to the dock /
18:29.29vestinious?
18:30.03AlexAnteMachinagrab its icon and drag it there.
18:30.10vestiniouscheers
18:30.52vestiniousyou all must be used to linux newbie questions ;)
18:31.02AlexAnteMachinayep.
18:31.17AlexAnteMachinathere is a first time for everything.
18:31.24vestiniousat least everyone ive spoken to today has been helpful
18:31.41vestiniousthats important to me and thanks
18:31.44AlexAnteMachinanice.
18:32.04AlexAnteMachinalucky you've not tried talking in some debian channel.
18:32.24AlexAnteMachinanormal linux channels are flooded by trolls.
18:32.32vestiniousim a roleplayer and so know how bad chatrooms can get
18:32.32AlexAnteMachinahates Trolls.
18:33.14AlexAnteMachinathat's one of the reasons why I'm sticking with elive.
18:33.16AlexAnteMachina:)
18:33.45AlexAnteMachinaits pretty much like linux should be.
18:33.50AlexAnteMachinaOPEN
18:33.54AlexAnteMachinaeven in mind.
18:33.58vestinioushow do you change your keyboard to UK ?
18:34.08AlexAnteMachinatry using elpanel.
18:34.20vestiniousok will do
18:34.30AlexAnteMachinaits a graphical tool. very easy to use.
18:34.58vestiniousive found it makes things easier - all under one control
18:35.14AlexAnteMachinayep. that's why thana made it.
18:36.49AlexAnteMachinaI'm curious what this new nurse-mode will bring.
18:37.46vestinioussorted
18:38.12vestiniousthis thing is just easy to use, soooooo glad I made the jump from Vista
18:38.39AlexAnteMachinanever used vista.
18:39.19vestiniousgood job you havent trust me, XP was good but the extra bling in Vista was horrible and for no appartent use
18:39.34AlexAnteMachinaguess elive is running extremely fast on a computer that's able running vista smoothly.
18:40.30vestiniousvery fast yes and with no drags due to fancy graphics rubbish - I want my computer to work on with writing and editing and this is prefect
18:40.31AlexAnteMachinaI've switched to linux about 2 years ago.
18:40.41vestinious2 weeks and counting for me
18:40.49AlexAnteMachinalol
18:40.55AlexAnteMachinaand even better:
18:41.11AlexAnteMachinano more viruses and stuff like that.
18:41.21vestinioushell yeah thats a big bonus
18:41.58AlexAnteMachinano more bloated, system slowing, virus-scanners.
18:42.39vestiniousyep, i used to use kapersky which to be fair was small and not intrusive but ive used norton before
18:43.10AlexAnteMachinawow.. I've used norton once, too.
18:43.19AlexAnteMachinathat was a real pain.
18:43.31vestiniousright time to move my files off the backup drive to the HD
18:44.06vestiniousmy old XP system came installed with Norton internet security and system works thats a killer
18:47.03AlexAnteMachinalol... from now on you can go to the store, inserting a elive-CD into the will-be-next system for testing wether everything works, and THEN telling the Salesman you want a discount because you dont need the preinstalled CRAP!
18:47.06AlexAnteMachina*gg*
18:48.24vestiniousyeah at at the price Windows is that would make for a cheaper laptop ;)
18:49.09AlexAnteMachinahuh???
18:49.13AlexAnteMachinadidnt get that.
18:49.41vestinioustelling the salesman you want it cheaper part
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19:23.58Gneagood afternoon
19:24.44GneaThanatermesis: the flickering is just a minor thing, I understand that it has a function of some type, I'm just saying that, as an end-user, it raises red-flags as to the stability (it is devel, so heh)
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20:01.06Gneahrm, okay, I got the effects to work finally
20:01.17she_dyedwhat did you do?
20:01.25she_dyedmaybe i have to do the same?
20:01.26Gneaplayed with the ecomorph config
20:01.44Gneahave you seen my video yet?
20:02.23she_dyedno, havent seen a link
20:02.48Gneahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhYOhXY6OI
20:03.01Gneamade it last night after what you suggested
20:03.14Gneathe only thing that doesn't seem to work so far is the cube... might need to reconfigure
20:03.20Gneabut windows wobble, burn, etc
20:03.30Gneaand switching virtual desktops flips the cube horizontally
20:06.48Gneayeah, cube just doesn't work - lost background again
20:07.03keyraGnea: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
20:07.04Gneaand not sure what i did, but now i get a mirror-image of menus
20:07.22Gneawtf
20:07.23Gneaoic
20:09.39Gneayeah that just doesn't help
20:10.11Gneai know what .edj files are and what their purpose is. point is, i should be able to select a wallpaper via picture file or whatever and it should show up, regardless.
20:10.25keyraGnea: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
20:10.31Gneakeyra: shut up
20:10.46keyraGnea: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis
20:14.52Gneaokay
20:15.31she_dyedheh it shows our chat session earlier
20:15.34Gneashe_dyed: i can get the background and everything else to show up by adjusting the 'opacity when not rotating' slider
20:15.49keyraGnea: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
20:16.22Gneabends keyra over and gives her something to look at
20:16.36she_dyedlol, turn camera on
20:16.41Gneaheh
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20:33.15Gneaokay, back to original desktop
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