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00:16.00Gran_GerHi there!! Is Thanatermesis available?
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07:10.14Elive_user62_eneuh
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09:01.11Elive_user29_frLu a tous
09:02.17Elive_user29_frquelqu'un peu me dire comment afficher les icones sur le bureau
09:02.46Elive_user29_frpar exemple poste de travail corbeille et ainsi de suite
09:04.18Elive_user29_frexcusez moi y a t'il quelqu'un svp
09:04.34Elive_user29_frpour me repondre
09:07.59Elive_user41_frsuis-je connecter?
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09:09.12Elive_user41_frrebonjour a tous
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09:11.12Elive_user29_frla version 2.0 est-elle aboutie
09:12.00AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, ping
09:12.33AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, I've tested sharing Directories again and it works fine!
09:13.18AlexAnteMachinaSeems like I was a Dork and broke something the first time.
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10:24.16Elive_user61apt-get update
10:24.33Elive_user61apt-get install scim-anthy
10:24.43Elive_user61apt-get install kasumi
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11:34.04she_dyedbrb
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11:53.41AlexAnteEEELinuxNIT, ping
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12:03.33AlexAnteEEEhi all
12:03.46AlexAnteEEEenybody already tried using nurse-mode?
12:04.06AlexAnteEEEshe_dyed, ping
12:04.06AlexAnteEEELinuxNIT, doubleping
12:04.18she_dyedpong
12:04.24AlexAnteEEEhowdy, she_dyed
12:04.31AlexAnteEEEtried nurse-mode?
12:04.38she_dyednot yet
12:04.53she_dyedwhat needs fixing?
12:04.59she_dyedyour file bwosing
12:05.03AlexAnteEEEit's asked for root-pw but didnt accept.
12:05.22AlexAnteEEEprobably it was using wrong keymap!?
12:05.31she_dyedoh and its not aware
12:05.55she_dyedcan you simplify root pw for 15 minutes
12:06.07AlexAnteEEEhuh??
12:06.08she_dyedor until you're finished fixing
12:06.22AlexAnteEEEsimplifying root-pw???
12:06.27she_dyedchange it
12:06.30AlexAnteEEEoh.. yo.
12:06.38she_dyedthen fix, then set it back to normal
12:06.49AlexAnteEEEthere is nothing to fix.
12:06.59AlexAnteEEEi was just testing nurse-mode.
12:06.59she_dyedwhy do you need nurse mode tho
12:07.09AlexAnteEEEfor testing it!!!
12:07.20she_dyedthen you found one problem :D
12:10.49she_dyedi think a valid one
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12:35.22DammitJimThanatermesis, ping
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13:31.44Elive_user51_frBonjour qqu'un parle Français ici?
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15:15.58Gran_GerHi there!!! Good Morning from here, good afternoon Thanatermesis.
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16:21.15Pacmais back (gone 18:08:20)
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16:26.30Pacmais away: No estoy
16:28.17Elive_user94_frelive is great
16:28.32Elive_user94_frbut with the developpement version, i have some bugs
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16:48.25AlexAnteMachinanarf!
16:48.38AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, ping
16:48.45LinuxNITpong
16:48.56AlexAnteMachinahaha! He's there!
16:48.58AlexAnteMachinaYeah!
16:49.09LinuxNIT:)
16:49.25AlexAnteMachinaI've tested smb-browser again. works!
16:49.41LinuxNITgood
16:49.55AlexAnteMachinaI was able sharing files between 3 different pcs
16:50.03AlexAnteMachinavia lan and wifi.
16:50.36AlexAnteMachinaBut then I tried using it with xp.
16:50.41AlexAnteMachinaand guess what?!
16:51.23LinuxNIT?
16:51.26AlexAnteMachinaxp couldnt find it.
16:51.49LinuxNITnot uncommon, especially if the server just started
16:52.03AlexAnteMachinado you have any idea what may be wrong there?
16:52.05LinuxNITopen internet explorer \\192.168.1.101
16:52.17LinuxNITor whatever the ip of the server is
16:52.24AlexAnteMachinaah... how do you know that ip?????
16:52.34LinuxNITifconfig
16:52.37LinuxNITon the server
16:52.45LinuxNITor if its elive.... open net-connector
16:52.50AlexAnteMachinano, how you  guessed that??
16:53.02LinuxNITi just picked an ip
16:53.29AlexAnteMachinathat's exactly the IP I gave my pc.
16:53.43LinuxNIT:)
16:54.22AlexAnteMachinaI've tried the IP, but not the \\!
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17:01.43AlexAnteXPeeehi LinuxNIT
17:01.59LinuxNIThi
17:02.51AlexAnteXPeeeafter a reboot the shareed folders keep shared, I hope!?
17:03.05keyraAlexAnteXPeee: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
17:03.21LinuxNITyes
17:03.31AlexAnteXPeeewell, so xp should be able finding it.
17:03.39AlexAnteXPeeebut isnt
17:03.44AlexAnteXPeee:(
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17:04.42AlexAnteXPeeeany hint, LinuxNIT
17:04.43AlexAnteXPeee?
17:05.15LinuxNITwhat error did internet explorer give you when you entered \\ip
17:06.46AlexAnteXPeee"could not fin the file at \\\192.168.1.101
17:06.59LinuxNITtwo \\ not 3
17:07.33AlexAnteXPeeeI know.. it added some by itselfe.
17:08.09LinuxNITping it from xp
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17:08.19AlexAnteXPeeethen I corrected that now it searches for "file:\\192.168.1.101"
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17:09.12AlexAnteXPeeeit still cant find the file.
17:09.26AlexAnteXPeeeand pinging works.
17:09.31LinuxNITdid you type in the "file:" ?
17:09.42AlexAnteXPeeeno.
17:09.52AlexAnteXPeeeit added that by itselfe.
17:10.02DammitJim:)
17:10.53AlexAnteXPeeewhen I'm removing it and retry to connect its adding http:
17:10.55LinuxNITthen something is wrong:
17:11.01LinuxNITit should look like....    
17:11.07LinuxNIT\\192.168.1.101
17:11.13LinuxNITno file:
17:12.09AlexAnteXPeeewell, I've tried with firefox first.
17:12.29LinuxNITyou cant do it in fire fox
17:12.36LinuxNITdo as instructed
17:12.42LinuxNITinternet explorer is not firefox
17:12.44AlexAnteXPeeethat created that strange file: or http:
17:12.51AlexAnteXPeeethen I tried IE
17:13.08AlexAnteXPeeeit did not add anything, but did not find it, too.
17:13.21LinuxNITwhat did it say?
17:14.50AlexAnteXPeee"Could not find the file \\192.168.1.101
17:15.50AlexAnteXPeeethats what it says.
17:17.44LinuxNITsounds like an odd error..
17:17.56AlexAnteXPeeehmm,..
17:18.12AlexAnteXPeeeits a normal xp home system with all updates.
17:19.17AlexAnteXPeeeis there a way making the system print errormessages?
17:19.31AlexAnteXPeeelike starting it from bash?
17:20.39LinuxNITin xp?
17:20.41AlexAnteXPeeeHave you already tried it with xp or any other microsoft system?
17:20.48AlexAnteXPeeeyes of course in xp.
17:20.54LinuxNITi dont know....
17:21.04LinuxNITbut do this open cmd in xp
17:21.15LinuxNITnet view \\192.168.1.101
17:21.22LinuxNITpaste the out put in pastebin
17:21.43AlexAnteXPeeesystemerror 1231
17:22.13AlexAnteXPeeeah,.. not sure if the whole message would be helpful for you.. its in German!!
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17:29.35ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, 192.168.1.101 that is the ip of the Elive machine where you are sharing your files ?
17:29.58AlexAnteXPeeeLinuxNIT: I've read some about that error 1231.... seems its a typical win-problem with typically weird reasons and solutions.
17:30.35AlexAnteXPeeeThanatermesis: yes
17:35.46ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, and windows dont has bash, no one version of windows has bash, it is just a minor and minimal useless shell called "ms-dos"
17:35.46Thanatermesiswithout no evolution at all since its first version
17:35.48Thanatermesiss/no//
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17:37.53AlexAnteXPeeeof course there was no evolution.
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17:38.32AlexAnteXPeeeIt's a perfect system/application so there is no need of Improfement.
17:38.39AlexAnteXPeee;)
17:43.04wasynytgood evening people
17:43.06Thanatermesisits just a draft of a try to make a un-operative system (UOS) that was fastly turned in a nest of bugs making a totally useless system, it was abandonen to the trash and bill gates has found it and cheated the humanity selling it in a beautiful box
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17:43.26Thanatermesisnice history, AlexAnteMachina :), you should see the full one at the movie "pirates of silicon valley"
17:43.40Thanatermesishi wasynyt
17:43.43wasynyt:D
17:43.49wasynythow are you doing Thanatermesis and AlexAnteXPeee
17:44.15Thanatermesisnot bad :)
17:44.39wasynytgreat
17:44.47AlexAnteXPeeewell,... I'm ante XPeee...... so how should i fell???
17:45.00AlexAnteXPeeeups... feel
17:45.12wasynytsad? misguided? cheated? unproductive?
17:45.36AlexAnteXPeeeit's in the expression "XPeee"... im feeling pissed.
17:46.43Thanatermesislol
17:47.24AlexAnteXPeeeeven booting xp sucks.
17:47.37wasynythow?
17:47.38keyraAlexAnteXPeee: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
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17:48.22AlexAnteXPeeeoh, cool! I'll instantly report XP bugs on the elive bugreport site!!! yeah!!!
17:48.36keyraAlexAnteXPeee: http://bugs.elivecd.org
17:49.40AlexAnteXPeeeargh
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18:13.38g0thy
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18:13.52g0tdoes anyone have a link for installer-module
18:14.00Elive_user51_frhello
18:14.01g0ti have to admit
18:14.10g0ti have searched for a few days
18:14.20g0tand couldnt find it
18:14.33AlexAnteXPeeein staller-module
18:14.37AlexAnteXPeeeaha.
18:14.39g0tyea
18:14.45AlexAnteXPeeewhat are you going to install?
18:14.45Elive_user51_frsomebody speak french here?
18:14.52g0t44
18:14.58g0tdevelopment version
18:15.07AlexAnteXPeee1.9.44?
18:15.12g0tyes
18:15.25AlexAnteXPeee1.9.48 is the latest available.
18:15.35g0ti know
18:15.43Elive_user51_frshe's  not unstable the latest?
18:15.47g0tbut there is a bandwich problem
18:16.03g0ti have the older version
18:16.10g0tcould you help?
18:16.39g0tthing is, everything goes whečll
18:16.42g0twhel
18:16.47g0t;o)
18:16.49g0twhell
18:16.57g0tbut when it asks for a module
18:16.59g0ti got lost
18:17.08g0ti have tryed to enable networking
18:17.12AlexAnteXPeeeand installer module is just two clicks away. when the system asks for it, just click
18:17.14g0tbu t to be honest
18:17.19Elive_user51_frhow can i control thr hour please?
18:17.26g0tit does seam so easy
18:17.32g0tno dhcp on my network
18:17.46g0tby defoult it try to enable it
18:17.54g0ti have tryed
18:18.03g0tto put corect data
18:18.13g0tin /etc/networking/interfaces
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18:18.25g0tbut couldnt start
18:18.27g0tnetwork
18:18.40g0tit youst gives defoult thing in return
18:18.59g0tbut to me it seams that my entry was ok
18:19.08g0tis there direct link
18:19.14g0tanywhere on the net
18:19.24g0tfor downloading installer --modulle
18:21.38g0tok, if by any chance i manage to do something with interfaces
18:21.55g0thow do i restart the networking sevice
18:21.56g0t?
18:22.10AlexAnteXPeeenet-connector
18:22.11LinuxNITdid you try the gui?
18:22.12g0thavent used debian a bit
18:22.20LinuxNITyou can do static from there
18:22.25g0tnot working
18:22.33g0tit crashes
18:22.40LinuxNITyou can restart networking with /etc/init.d/networking restart
18:22.42g0tif you mean pppoe
18:22.53g0tthat is most helpfoul
18:22.56g0t;o)
18:22.58g0tthnx
18:23.07LinuxNITthe interface must be in the auto line to start with that
18:23.14AlexAnteXPeeehow about getting latest dev-version?
18:23.30LinuxNITyou can also bring it up with... ifup iface
18:23.33LinuxNITfor example
18:23.34g0twhell if thins doesnt work
18:23.36LinuxNITifup wlan0
18:23.42g0tthen i will do it
18:24.06g0tThnx NIT
18:24.11LinuxNITnp
18:24.13g0tby guys
18:25.17AlexAnteXPeeesorry for my being somehow "short"... grandma was calling.
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18:52.21RoundQubehello all
18:52.49RoundQubei just installed 'linux-image-2.6.30.8-elive-686', how do i load it on boot? its still loading .7-elive-686
18:54.37LinuxNITedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
18:54.56RoundQubewhy isn't it added automatically when i installed the new image?
18:55.16LinuxNITi dont know it normally is, ask Thanatermesis
18:55.47Thanatermesisuse nurse mode for to be automatic
18:55.55Thanatermesisso, no edit things like menu.lst
18:56.01Thanatermesisor edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
18:56.20RoundQubeso i go into ncurse mode then update kernel then reboot back into regular mode?
18:59.17Thanatermesisor edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
19:00.03LinuxNITwonders why it is not added automatically when installed
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19:04.11mathesisse Thanatermesis
19:04.34mathesisi need code to download openoffice
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20:23.41Thybohaha
20:23.43Thybothis is fun :)
20:23.45Thybohello all
20:23.59Thybohey Thanatermesis :)
20:25.54Thybo:)
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20:29.40AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, why does smb-admin show the host-pc twice?
20:30.12ThyboAlexAnteMachina: coz otherwise it would not be fun
20:30.18Thyboi had never tried IRC from pidgin
20:30.20AlexAnteMachinaIt works well, but it's looking strange.
20:30.24Thybobut it's actually quite convenient
20:30.24Thybo:p
20:30.51LinuxNITAlexAnteMachina, where?
20:31.10AlexAnteMachinawell, actually I'm using 2 PCs for testing.
20:31.57AlexAnteMachinathe one I'm writing at (192.168.1.101) and a second one (192.168.1.111) which is connected by wifi.
20:32.38AlexAnteMachinaOn the .101 I've set the music-folder to be shared.
20:32.49LinuxNITwhat does that have to do with smb-admin showing the host-pc twice?
20:32.52keyraAlexAnteMachina: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
20:32.57LinuxNITis not sure how smb-admin shows the host-pc
20:33.57AlexAnteMachinaNow when I'm starting smb-admin on the 2nd PC and click on "Workgroup"
20:34.12AlexAnteMachinait starts scanning and finds "ELIVE"
20:34.26LinuxNITsmb-admin does not scan
20:34.30AlexAnteMachinabut it shows that twice!
20:34.37Thybo:p
20:34.44AlexAnteMachinaups.. sorry.. did i say smb-admin?
20:34.47AlexAnteMachinaMy fault!
20:34.52AlexAnteMachinasmb-browser!
20:34.59AlexAnteMachinait's about smb-browser!
20:35.30LinuxNITdo you have to machines on the networkwith the hostname of "elive"?
20:35.48AlexAnteMachinayes.
20:35.58AlexAnteMachinathat's what I've thought about, too.
20:36.11LinuxNIT...
20:36.55AlexAnteMachinabut when clicking on one of these "ELIVE"
20:37.06AlexAnteMachinait starts scanning again...
20:37.33AlexAnteMachinashowing some information about it... including the IP
20:37.52AlexAnteMachinaand on both "ELIVE" the exactly same IP shows up!
20:38.19AlexAnteMachinaand the same shared folders, too.
20:38.39AlexAnteMachinaThat made me think both are showing the same share.
20:39.15LinuxNITwell change the name of one of the computers!
20:39.22AlexAnteMachinahmm...
20:40.27AlexAnteMachinaWhere to change that?
20:41.00LinuxNIT<PROTECTED>
20:41.10LinuxNITalso you can change the netbiosname in smb-admin
20:43.40AlexAnteMachinaokay.
20:46.50AlexAnteMachinawell, still showing ELIVE twice
20:47.06LinuxNITdid you restart the server?
20:47.21LinuxNITit will take time to take effect
20:48.17AlexAnteMachinaahm... smb-admin has an option "act as WINS server" ... do you think that could affect this XP Problem with not finding the share!?
20:49.00AlexAnteMachinanow it's working perfectly!
20:49.08LinuxNITis it checked?
20:49.10Thybo:)
20:49.12Thybothere u go
20:49.33AlexAnteMachinaI renamed the 2nd computer and also its netbios-name.
20:49.51AlexAnteMachinanow both show up in smb-browser as they should!
20:49.53AlexAnteMachina:)
20:49.57AlexAnteMachinavery very nice.
20:50.41AlexAnteMachinaand this wins server thing is set to "Do not act as WINS server" by smb-admin's default.
20:50.42LinuxNITits kinda confusing have two people/computers etc with the same name no matter how you look at it
20:50.47LinuxNITgood
20:51.13LinuxNITyou should need to mess with it
20:51.32AlexAnteMachinayou mean messing with these wins server settings!?
20:52.00AlexAnteMachinaokay.
20:52.38LinuxNITwhoops
20:52.47LinuxNITyou should NOT need to mess with that
20:52.47AlexAnteMachinawhoops?
20:52.54AlexAnteMachinadid not yet.
20:52.58LinuxNITgood
20:53.07Thybolol
20:53.11Thybothat was close ^ ^
20:53.55AlexAnteMachinanot that bad... if it would have been wrong I could have set it back to default easily.
20:54.16Thybo:p
20:55.29AlexAnteMachinajust read about WINS.... what a crap!
20:58.21AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, do you have a microsoft OS somewhere installed?
20:58.41LinuxNITyes
20:58.45LinuxNITin vbox
20:58.50AlexAnteMachinaok.
20:59.36AlexAnteMachinahave you already tried testing it with elive?
20:59.42LinuxNITyes
21:00.16AlexAnteMachinaand? did it work for you?
21:00.21LinuxNITyes
21:00.28AlexAnteMachinaas I thought.
21:01.16AlexAnteMachinawell, i need to go to sleep.
21:02.12AlexAnteMachinacu tomorrow.
21:02.18AlexAnteMachinathanks for helping!
21:02.20AlexAnteMachina:)
21:02.25LinuxNITcya
21:02.26LinuxNITyw
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21:19.43RoundQubehow can I get my wifi to auto connect to the last AP it was connected to? every time i reboot or come out of suspend, it sits there and i have to manuall select my profile to connect
21:19.53RoundQubeim using the default internet configurator that comes with Elive
21:28.48ThyboRoundQube: you are not running the live version are you? :)
21:36.17LinuxNITRoundQube, did you check the autoconnect button ?
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21:45.37Gran_GerHi there! Need some help with amsn, I want to enable de video conference, but need farsight2, I downloaded
21:46.22Gran_Gerand following the wiki at http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Farsight#Linux, there is a part where have to build dependencies for the gstreamer package
21:47.09Gran_Gerand the system says I have to put some URI's "sources" at sources.list
21:47.48Gran_Gerso, Do I need another line at sources.list?
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22:11.52Gran_GerAnyone?
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