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00:05.46Elive_user15_esPrinceAMD
00:05.48Elive_user15_es# du -hs /mnt/hda6/
00:05.48Elive_user15_es5,5G/mnt/hda6/
00:05.56Elive_user15_es/dev/hda6              3900152    993912   2906240  26% /mnt/hda6
00:06.26Elive_user15_esusing 993 MB of disk where it is on reality 5,5 GB :D
00:06.53PrinceAMDElive_user15_es, nice :)
00:07.11PrinceAMDElive_user15_es, old hard drive?
00:07.19Elive_user15_esno
00:08.09Elive_user15_es<PROTECTED>
00:08.33Elive_user15_esit is not only nice, but fast too PrinceAMD, since the real size on disk is 5,5 times smaller, it is 5,5 times more fast to get the data from the disk !
00:08.56Elive_user15_es5,5 faster w00t!, let me try it
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00:21.24Elive_user74_enhi all
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00:54.05WarmfreezeAnyone alive?
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01:52.22xwallsomebody speak spanish ?
01:53.43xwalltengo problemas con mi elive trate de instalar un driver para mi tarjeta usb zyda y al compilarlo me compilo todos los driver en el sistema y ahora mi tarjeta de mi laptop ya no fuciona es una ipw2200
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03:50.01xwallThanatermesis: ping
04:20.56elmo40Thanatermesis: i am in liveCD at the moment. i will install on this new system :) Then i will set auto login in irssi.
04:23.41elmo40Wizard: what is eCinema?
04:37.20DammitJimoooohhh... he put ecinema on there?
04:41.41elmo40what is ecinema??
05:05.41elmo40the pastebin of my new system (not complete. no drives yet! On liveCD)
05:05.44elmo40http://pastebin.ca/1618698
05:05.51elmo40someone forward this to Thanatermesis, ok?
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05:27.22kingdonelmo40: i can't read urls, what's there at that pastebin address?
05:27.36kingdonand what is eCinema
06:42.09xwallThanatermesis: ping
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06:56.31xwallhow can I recover my wireless card driver after an error with livecd or only reinstall?
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09:58.57wasynyt_mobigood afternoon people
10:04.09AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt_mobi
10:05.03wasynyt_mobihow are you doing AlexAnteMachina
10:07.21AlexAnteMachinaquite fine.
10:07.58wasynyt_mobinice
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11:04.16elmo40wasynyt: tere
11:05.07elmo40kingdon: it is a list of info on my system. lspci, lsusb, meminfo, cpuinfo. nothing too important ;)
11:05.15elmo40i dont know what is eCinema.
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11:24.30elmo40Thanatermesis: awake yet?
11:26.32elmo40moo?
11:33.51Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
11:33.51Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
11:33.51Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
11:33.51Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
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11:33.51Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
11:33.53Thanatermesis...."Have you mooed today?"...
11:34.03Thanatermesiselmo40, can you give me your irssi conf ?
11:35.05elmo40it is default
11:35.08elmo40i have not altered it
11:35.14elmo40straight from apt-get ;)
11:35.24elmo40still in liveCD mode... will run it like this for a while.
11:35.47elmo40Thanatermesis: hi :) How are things? Have you seen my new system specs?
11:35.53elmo40http://pastebin.ca/1618698
11:37.19Thanatermesiswhy livecd ?
11:47.16elmo40i have not purchased a drive yet ;)
11:47.43Thanatermesisoh
11:48.49elmo40i want 3 drives in a RAID 5 setup
11:48.58elmo40will the eliveinstaller handle that?
11:50.01elmo40Thanatermesis: did you see the specs? everything came last night
11:51.01Thanatermesisyes, looks very good :)
11:51.05Thanatermesisyes, the installer handle that :)
11:51.12elmo40you think the memory is maxed out due to the 32-bit Elive?
11:51.20Thanatermesisno
11:51.33Thanatermesisfrom the nurse mode you can use Elive kernels that allow you to have more than 4 gb, in 32 bits
11:51.34Thanatermesisi use it
11:51.46elmo40hrmm
11:51.50ThanatermesisMem:   7529528k total,  7162016k used,   367512k free,   420016k buffers
11:51.51elmo40MemTotal:        3630344 kB
11:51.53elmo40seems low
11:52.10elmo40Mem:   3630344k total,  1196308k used,  2434036k free,   136676k buffers
11:52.37Thanatermesiselmo40, put a usb stick of 4gb and will support 500 gb like that file on this shot  http://home.thanatermesis.org/shots/funny-things-of-the-binary-world.jpg
11:52.40elmo40you only have 367Mb free!?
11:52.52keyraThanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
11:54.24Thanatermesissee where is wasted a lot of memory, elmo40:  http://debian.pastebin.com/mf3d4683
11:54.40Thanatermesisalso, there's only a 30 % used, the rest is buffered
11:54.44Thanatermesisso, free memory
11:56.48elmo40wow, many instances of firefox!
11:56.52elmo40yes, it is a memory HOG
11:56.55elmo403.5?
11:57.09Thanatermesis3.0
11:57.12Thanatermesisonly hog ? :)
11:57.24Thanatermesiswebsites are just PLAIN TEXT, pure html and a few images
11:57.24elmo403.5 is SOOOOO much better
11:57.28elmo40in windoze, anyways
11:57.32Thanatermesisis a black hole of memory, not a hog
11:57.36elmo40true
11:57.38elmo40so sad
11:57.40elmo40but true
11:57.56Thanatermesiswell, ppl is free to use opera or anything
11:57.59Thanatermesislinks2 -g  roolz
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11:58.31elmo40i use it all the time
11:59.34elmo40virtualbox 3.0.8?
11:59.48elmo40i was in there webinar. learning about the latest features for it.
11:59.55elmo40very nice improvements!
12:00.00elmo40from 3.0
12:02.39Thanatermesisvirtualbox 2
12:04.00Thyboin elive 3.5 is also
12:04.00Thybobetter
12:04.01Thyboi installed it :)
12:04.04Thyboof course lins2 rules
12:04.05AlexAnteMachinait's not in the default-repos
12:04.05Thybobut than
12:04.08Thyboflash sucks hehe
12:04.22keyraThybo: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
12:04.46elmo40you hear about the massive windoze update? 34 or more 'patches' to OLD software :P
12:05.03elmo40Thanatermesis: why 2?
12:05.05elmo40upgrade
12:05.08elmo40it is seemless
12:05.21elmo40nothing you need to alter, they say everything will work in 3.0.8
12:05.29elmo40even from 1.x !
12:06.57Thyboelmo40, what update?
12:07.31elmo40Thanatermesis is using virtualbox 2.x
12:07.37elmo40they have since released 3.0.8
12:08.12elmo403.0.8 can run 1.x images. no need to use 'old' software :P
12:08.47elmo40but... there was a reason some people dont upgrade. cant remember why atm. some sort of feature not in 3.0.8
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12:10.42elmo40Thanatermesis: what cpu do you use?
12:15.00Thanatermesis<elmo40> Thanatermesis: why 2?
12:15.06Thanatermesisbecause is the version that we have on lenny
12:15.11Thanatermesiswell no, in lenny we have 1.6.6 :)
12:15.22Thanatermesisi have ported the 2 in order to satisfy the updated kernel of Elive
12:15.29Thanatermesisnew*
12:15.47Thanatermesis<elmo40> upgrade
12:15.49Thanatermesisno, i dont want
12:16.05Thanatermesisyour virtual machines changes, so are adapted to future version, that means that you can't go back to the previous version
12:16.22Thanatermesisi dont if there's much advantages in the version 3 but the 2 is perfectly very good :)
12:17.02Thanatermesiscpu core2duo 3ghz
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13:26.43elmo40Thanatermesis: you will be surprised as to what 3.0.8 has... and there is 3.0.8 for lenny, in Their repo
13:30.44Thanatermesisthe building of hte kernel module for >= 3.0 requires klibc in a version that is not in lenny
13:32.13elmo40i see.
13:32.19elmo40well, that sucks
13:32.33keyraelmo40: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
13:35.41elmo40keyra: you suck
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14:18.44Thyboapt kick elmo40
14:18.45aptACTION kicks elmo40
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14:58.43Elive_user48_enHi
14:59.36twiggzHello
15:00.14Elive_user48_enis there anyone who can help me with a bootup problem?
15:00.29keyraElive_user48_en: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb
15:02.56Thanatermesishttp://home.thanatermesis.org/shots/help-filesystems.jpg
15:05.04Elive_user48_enkeyra: perhaps if I explain the problem I am having. I have Elive installed on hdd with WinXP and Kubuntu. If XP boots first then Elive will boot fine, but I cannot boot Elive twice in a row without getting a sbin/modprobe - abormal exit message. After a while, the boot continues and then gets stuck at the bluetooth stage. Then, I have to poweroff a boot into Windows, after that boot, Elive will boot fine.
15:05.18keyraElive_user48_en: I'm fine :)
15:05.56Elive_user48_enis keyra a bot?
15:06.10keyraElive_user48_en: you think so?
15:07.38ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, which version of Elive ?
15:09.28Elive_user48_en1.19.46
15:10.38Elive_user48_enThis is the only problem that I am having, the distro appears bug free otherwise.
15:11.03Thanatermesisyou mean 1.9.46
15:11.16Thanatermesisthis includes the old or the new kernel ? so 2.6.26 or 2.6.30 ?
15:12.11Elive_user48_enyes, i mean 1.9.46, how can i tell which kernal it uses?
15:12.18twiggzuname -a
15:13.11Elive_user48_enLinux Elive 2.6.30.7-elive-686
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15:24.13Elive_user48_enBTW Grub boots first and it only goes to Windows if Elive is not selected. The Kubuntu OS is installed via Wubi.
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15:29.20AlexAnteMachinahi all
15:29.28xwallhi
15:30.01AlexAnteMachinaupgrading xp is really fun.
15:30.23xwallwindows?
15:30.28AlexAnteMachinayes.
15:30.36xwall:O
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15:31.52xwallbut you use elive in other partition ?
15:31.59AlexAnteMachinano
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15:32.26Elive_user79hi
15:32.30AlexAnteMachinahi
15:32.33Elive_user79can any one help
15:32.34Elive_user79me
15:32.36Elive_user79>>>
15:32.37AlexAnteMachinadepends.
15:32.48Elive_user79I'm new in linux
15:32.55AlexAnteMachinaI'm new to windows.
15:32.56Elive_user79from where I have to start..
15:32.58AlexAnteMachina;)
15:33.03Elive_user79LOL
15:33.18AlexAnteMachinaso, what's up?
15:33.41xwallThanatermesis: ping
15:33.42Elive_user79I would like to start learning linux
15:33.57Elive_user79from where I have to start
15:34.14Elive_user79can you give me send web site to learn from
15:34.16Elive_user79...
15:34.17ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, i have not understand correctly, what is the problem exactly ? Elive dont' boot ? windows dont boot ?
15:34.23Thanatermesisxwall, pong
15:34.28xwallThanatermesis: me puedes ayudar
15:34.31keyraThanatermesis: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb
15:34.52xwallcompile compat-wireless y me dejaron de funcionar todos los dispositivos inalambricos
15:34.53Thanatermesis<Elive_user79> from where I have to start
15:35.08Thanatermesisyou have a good selection of bookmarks in your firefox (web browser) with documentation and useful thinks for learn
15:35.28Thanatermesisxwall, version de Elive ?
15:35.30AlexAnteMachinawell, Elive_user79 depends on where you want to go to.
15:35.58Elive_user79can you give a site...
15:35.59Elive_user79???
15:36.09xwallThanatermesis: 2.6.28.8-elive-686 developed version
15:36.56Elive_user48_enThanatermesis : Elive will boot fine, but not twice in a row. I need to boot into Windows after I shut down Elive or the next time Elive will not boot and get stuck on the boot screen
15:37.24Thanatermesisxwall, grep -i version /etc/elive-version
15:37.34AlexAnteMachinaElive_user79, a site? A site about what? About linux? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
15:38.14xwallThanatermesis: 1.9.28 lenny
15:38.29ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, is the first time that i see a problem like this one, which type of hard disks do you have ? are you sure that you need to boot windows ? i mean if you try to reboot multiple times it doesnt works ? what happens when you select Elive and doesn't boot ? is there any error message by grub ? which number
15:38.34Thanatermesissaturating Elive_user48_en :)
15:38.43keyraThanatermesis: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb
15:39.03Thanatermesisxwall, yo de ti reinstalaría una version reciente de Elive que te arreglaría ese problema, ademas tendrás el modo nurse con el que podrás arreglar problemas como este si te vuelven a pasar
15:39.46xwallThanatermesis: tendria que reinstalar la ultima version para poder recuperar los driver ?
15:41.05Thanatermesisque quieres decir con recuperar drivers ?
15:41.12Thanatermesisbueno, tendrías que reinstalar el kernel, o mejor un kernel diferente
15:41.26Thanatermesisinstala una version nueva de elive, si, en modo upgrade asi guardas todos tus datos y tal
15:41.40keyraThanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
15:41.52xwallThanatermesis: apt-get upgrade ?
15:41.53Elive_user48_enThanatermesis : Normal 160Gb Seagate hdd. Yes, I do need to boot into Windows or Elive will not boot the next time. I have given you the bootscreen message where it is hanging on boot, but do not know how to get a grub error message.
15:42.06keyraxwall: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
15:42.07Thanatermesisxwall, no, reinstalación, es un feature del instalador
15:42.43xwalla ok asi no pierdo mis datos, no ?
15:43.34Elive_user48_enI wondered if Elive was having trouble with a device and booting Windows somehow corrected this. Seems an odd problem. :)
15:43.48keyraElive_user48_en: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb
15:43.49ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, do you have a bluetooth device ?
15:44.08ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, yes, sound like a problem with a "state" on a hardware
15:45.14xwallThanatermesis: has probado con algun dispositivo wireless con el driver zd1211rw ?
15:45.34xwallpor lo menos en la version que yo tengo no funciona
15:45.46xwallal tratar de levantar la interfas no funciona
15:46.04Elive_user48_enI have bluetooth software on Windows but normally have the connection disconnected and the usb bluetooth dongle unplugged. I have tried with both enabled and have also tried the Elive cheatcode nobluetoothl
15:46.08Thanatermesisxwall, si, me va perfecto, tengo uno de esos, pruebalo en una version reciente a ver
15:46.16xwallok
15:46.30ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, this cheatcode only works on live mode i think
15:46.42ThanatermesisElive_user48_en, try to remove the bluetooth package
15:47.04Elive_user48_en<Thanatermesis> you means the windows software package?
15:47.13Thanatermesisno, the one in Elive
15:47.22Thanatermesisif stucks on the bluetooth step, remove the bluetooth support
15:47.32Thanatermesisapt-get remove bluez-utils
15:47.37xwallpor que al tratar de levantar la interfas dice que el dispositivo no existe o que que el tiempo expiro
15:48.05Thanatermesisxwall, bueno, como digo, prueba una version reciente de Elive
15:48.42Elive_user48_en<Thanatermesis> will do, I will try and then reboot. When I come back to report, mu username will be Frank
15:48.47xwalleso voy a hacer cualquier cosa te aviso Thanatermesis
15:48.51xwallcya
15:49.06Thanatermesisok Elive_user48_en
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16:32.36Frank_Lion<Thanatermesis> I'm back :) ...without bluetooth on Elive, it still hung on boot with the modprobe abnormal exit error message, but after 3 minutes then booted OK. Not good. On a hunch, I then disconnected a USB TV card by Hauppage and Elive booted OK 2 times or more. It will be slightly inconvient to keep unplugging this, but at least I now know what the problem is
16:32.51keyraFrank_Lion: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb
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17:33.31ThanatermesisFrank_Lion, well, good to know :),
17:35.14Frank_Lion<Thanatermesis> No problem, I thought you would like to know that USB TV cards can produce this non boot problem. Quite odd. :)
17:35.28keyraFrank_Lion: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb
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17:42.27ThanatermesisFrank_Lion, yes, good to know the cause :), i think that the problem can be the kernel driver/module, maybe the hardware but sounds like more in the driver (linux driver) side, we can't do much there... we can just wait an update of the kernel that will fix it
17:42.43Thanatermesismaybe report the problem to the author of this driver module
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17:51.33Elive_user20_eshola
17:51.47keyraElive_user20_es: que tal ?
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17:56.50TurboVomitHi o/ !
17:56.59TurboVomithow can i read mms files ?
17:57.19TurboVomitIceweasel doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (mms) isn't associated with any program
18:06.11ThanatermesisKaKaRoTo, ping
18:06.29ThanatermesisTurboVomit, try   mplayer file.mms
18:10.35TurboVomitcan't read it in iceweasel
18:11.13TurboVomit?
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18:22.59xwallnurse mode is present 1.9.48 ?
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18:30.32Toinouhello
18:31.23Thanatermesisxwall, read the announcements on the News section and you can see
18:31.43ToinouI have a problem with sound
18:31.56keyraToinou: Don't be shy! Just ask.  :)
18:33.47ThanatermesisToinou, which version of Elive ?
18:34.05ToinouWhen I connect a headset it doesn't disactivate the speaker
18:34.47ToinouThanatermesis, version 1.9.37
18:36.03ThanatermesisToinou, i think that this version uses the old kernel, try a new iso of Elive to see if the new kernel solves it
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18:36.52Elive_user28_frThanatermesis, ok i download it immediatly
18:37.13Toinouthanks
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19:27.58KaKaRoToThanatermesis, pong
19:28.38Thanatermesishow's going the development of amsn2 KaKaRoTo ?
19:29.31Elive_user74_enlol
19:29.40KaKaRoToThanatermesis, it's ok but very slow!
19:29.44KaKaRoTohow are you btw ?
19:29.46KaKaRoToeverything fine ?
19:30.04KaKaRoToThanatermesis, billiob from amsn/amsn2 dev team recently got SVN access to enlightenment :)
19:30.09Elive_user74_enamsn is great..good job so far
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19:30.42Warmfreezeoops stupid elive user thingy
19:31.36Wizardhi
19:31.49she_dyedhey there Wizard
19:31.54she_dyedhey there Warmfreeze
19:32.06Warmfreezehello how's it going ?
19:32.11Warmfreezewhats the word
19:32.21WizardWarmfreeze: set up your irc client to use other nick
19:32.22she_dyedgoing good, just had some coffeeeee
19:32.26ThanatermesisKaKaRoTo, not bad, but busy as hell, non stop, no life lol
19:32.33Wizardgoing good, just having some beer
19:32.41Warmfreezewhat other nic ?
19:33.09Warmfreezeim too lazy simply becasue all my settings get lost when i restart computer anyway
19:33.10Wizardeverey irc client has an option for setting up nick before connecting
19:34.17KaKaRoToThanatermesis, lol, good luck! :)
19:34.30KaKaRoToWarmfreeze, thanks! :)
19:34.53WarmfreezeLol are you laughing at my expense ?
19:34.59she_dyedWarmfreeze: why are you running liveCD mode
19:35.05she_dyedor installed
19:35.10WarmfreezeRunning off USB stick
19:35.19she_dyedon a netbook?
19:35.37WarmfreezeSchool computer.
19:36.10she_dyedare they mostly windows pC's there
19:36.17she_dyedor not
19:36.19Warmfreezeyeha unfortunatly
19:36.43Warmfreezewe have a few macs ..but mostly windows
19:36.54she_dyedand one elive heh
19:36.57Warmfreezeand its a technical College ..lol
19:37.14Warmfreezei have it fully installed on a machene at home
19:37.27Warmfreezebut cant seem to get the C compiler to work correctly
19:37.50Warmfreezebut then again im pretty much a noob when it comes to linux
19:38.34WizardWarmfreeze: install gcc
19:40.45Warmfreezewhere would be a good place to find it?
19:41.03she_dyedopen up synaptic it should be listed
19:41.13Wizardyup
19:41.20Wizardi think it's the best way :)
19:41.44Warmfreezeoh yeah this is debian
19:41.45Warmfreezelol
19:42.02she_dyedi think theres like 2 or 3 things you put on the pc and its ready to ./configure and make
19:42.14she_dyedif you HAD to roll your own stuff
19:42.15kennyjb402is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots
19:42.31Wizardshe_dyed: i think he just needs it for classes :>
19:42.42she_dyedoh i see
19:45.35Wizardwhich version of e17 does elive has now? :)
19:46.22she_dyedi think you do a cat /etc/release
19:46.29she_dyedand it will show
19:47.07Wizardbut i don't have any elive around :(
19:49.32Warmfreezelol
19:49.40Warmfreezei dont really need it for class ..lol
19:49.58Warmfreezeits jsut something thats a lil better then windows but i need a better office sweet
19:50.22she_dyedoh it doesn't show, it shows elive version in /etc/elive-version
19:50.54she_dyedbut e17 has been like 16.99999-something
19:53.13kennyjb402is back (gone 00:10:58)
19:54.30Wizardshe_dyed: i wanted to know that something :D
19:56.50Wizardhttp://demotywatory.pl/246135/Ty-tez-sie-kiedys-uczyles
19:56.53Wizardrotfl :D
20:04.48she_dyed.999.062
20:07.57she_dyedwhat does that photo say
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20:12.23Elive_user65eeeey como se le hace para cambiar el fondo del sistema????
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20:14.34DronAn[BY]Hi all
20:15.54she_dyedhey there DronAn[BY]
20:16.46DronAn[BY]How are things? :)
20:17.03she_dyedthey could be better but i'll take it anyway
20:17.05DronAn[BY]I say WOOW to Elive :)
20:17.18she_dyedis Thanatermesis around
20:17.20DronAn[BY]she_dyed, it's sad
20:17.34DronAn[BY]what's wrong? wintertime?
20:17.53she_dyedno, forms to goto court, etc
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20:17.59Wizardshe_dyed: hmm.. all those car with L are driving course cars
20:18.02DronAn[BY]:(
20:18.13Wizardhi DronAn[BY]
20:18.19DronAn[BY]Wizard, Hi
20:18.46Wizardand under the image: Y've been also learning.. but not with whole class
20:18.54Wizardyou've*
20:19.55DronAn[BY]is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots
20:20.08DronAn[BY]is back (gone 00:00:12)
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20:28.10she_dyedi only noticed the L hah
20:28.17she_dyedon the cars
20:31.17Wizardshe_dyed: i don't know how does it look in other countries, but i would rahter kill myself driving with those "L's"
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20:37.48DronAn[BY]))
20:37.55DronAn[BY]That's ok
20:38.12DronAn[BY]In Ireland the same
20:38.19DronAn[BY]all the same
20:40.30Wizardhmm, i can't find debian cd :/
20:40.32Wizardcrap..
20:41.38DronAn[BY]where is smb-admin? Or it's not there yet?
20:43.18she_dyedi thought it was like a module now
20:43.38she_dyedor gadget, i think alex has tried it out
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20:45.43DronAn[BY]khm
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20:53.15DronAn[BY]smb-admin it is a tool writen by LinuxNIT as well and it was not installed on my system
20:53.24DronAn[BY])
21:14.25Wizardhmm
21:14.50Wizardand if Wizard would write a tool? would it be included? :)
21:15.31Wizardcurrently gave up any unix/linux activities
21:15.40she_dyedwell they are* looking for python coderz
21:15.55Wizard:)
21:16.16Wizardi'm able to write with python
21:16.32Wizardor write in python?
21:16.36Wizardhow should i say it?
21:17.07she_dyed'in' is good, like speak in english or write in german
21:26.20Wizardnah, so english speakers treats programming languages like natural languages..
21:27.27she_dyedyeah sounds about right
21:27.49Wizardof course my language have to be different :D
21:28.09she_dyedyou and thana, he calls his 'tarzanic'
21:28.19Wizardhehe
21:28.30Wizardi'm not sure how good/bad my english is..
21:28.57Wizardpeople who read/listen to me understand me, i think that matters ;)
21:29.05she_dyedeven here, thats it
21:29.17she_dyedno stress
21:29.54Wizardwhere 'here'?
21:29.59she_dyedin chat
21:30.52Wizard:)
21:34.14Wizardnah, QT4 is really cool and easy
21:36.39Wizardand my cat is really stupid and annoying
21:37.06she_dyedmy friend got a stray thats sweet but gets jealous of the keyboard
21:37.19she_dyedgetting all the attention
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21:45.39Wizardholy crap, Poland lost with Slovakia in world championship eliminations..
21:46.02Wizardwhat a shame..
21:46.13AlexAnteMachinais not ashamed
21:47.14Wizard:>
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21:47.54AlexAnteMachinais using XP...
21:48.05she_dyedeewwww
21:48.18she_dyedhey Wizard werent you looking for that samba thing
21:48.22she_dyedor was that DronAn[BY]
21:48.25AlexAnteMachinawas just acting as if he was using linux.
21:48.38DronAn[BY]?
21:49.32WizardAlexAnteMachina: i'm using os x ;)
21:50.08she_dyedDronAn[B+ | where is smb-admin? Or it's not there yet?
21:50.49DronAn[BY]I found it
21:50.59DronAn[BY]it was on repo
21:51.13DronAn[BY]yet
21:52.26DronAn[BY]Wizard, osX erasing a user's data
21:53.15DronAn[BY]so. do not login as guest in your OSx
21:53.30she_dyedyeah dont be a guest
21:54.00AlexAnteMachinaI'll never ever say "Be my Guest" again!!!
21:54.07DronAn[BY]what a nice fuly prop. distro
21:54.09DronAn[BY])))
21:55.11she_dyedgues followed by Admin login
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22:01.40WizardDronAn[BY]: i have leopard, not snow leopard
22:01.45AlexAnteMachinalol... winamp is discovering my server.... that takes ages.
22:01.53Wizardnah, PrinceAMD has seen this
22:02.06WizardAlexAnteMachina: foobar is waaaay better
22:02.10DronAn[BY]Wizard, anyway
22:02.23AlexAnteMachinafoobar?
22:02.24DronAn[BY]AIMP is the best
22:02.32Wizardyup, foobar2000
22:02.39Wizardthe best audio player for windows
22:02.42PrinceAMDWizard, seen what???
22:02.50DronAn[BY]AIMP 2.6....
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22:02.52PrinceAMDwinamp?
22:02.58DronAn[BY]The best audio player
22:03.00Wizard00:01 < Wizard> DronAn[BY]: i have leopard, not snow leopard
22:03.31DronAn[BY]Wizard, anyway :) stay low
22:04.44Wizardok, good night :D
22:06.16DronAn[BY]))
22:06.22DronAn[BY]Good night
22:06.25she_dyednite Wizard
22:06.43DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, take a look on http://www.aimp.ru/index.php
22:07.08AlexAnteMachinaalready read about it.
22:07.43AlexAnteMachinaits a improved russian version of winamp
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22:16.57DronAn[BY]no
22:17.12DronAn[BY]it's complitly different :)
22:18.06DronAn[BY]but you can use some winamp plugins
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22:20.30she_dyedlooks good, windows though?
22:21.33DronAn[BY]for windows
22:21.53DronAn[BY]and for the wine :)
22:22.04DronAn[BY]if you want
22:25.58AlexAnteMachinai prefer nativ linux software
22:35.07twiggzWhy the hell do you need to use winamp?
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