| 00:00.35 | she_dyed | for some apps man is short for manual |
| 00:01.27 | Go-er | Yes, i get a name, synpsis and description there |
| 00:01.55 | she_dyed | there you go before you call for help open the manual |
| 00:02.09 | she_dyed | rtfm for short :) |
| 00:02.34 | Go-er | thnx |
| 00:03.22 | Go-er | plenty of instruction how to use but program will not load |
| 00:04.03 | she_dyed | you need to give a name i think |
| 00:04.19 | she_dyed | it is expecting one |
| 00:04.47 | Go-er | of course. done that. then i get the error message |
| 00:05.09 | she_dyed | no you just entered the command |
| 00:05.21 | she_dyed | from the pastes above |
| 00:05.57 | she_dyed | i didnt see a name |
| 00:06.15 | Go-er | so, in terminal i type cd-circleprint. If i do that i get error message and it will not load. |
| 00:06.26 | Go-er | Ill do it again and show you |
| 00:06.29 | keyra | Go-er: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 00:06.51 | Go-er | [Bao ~]$ cd-circleprint |
| 00:06.51 | Go-er | Unsuccessful open on filename containing newline at /usr/bin/cd-circleprint line 126. |
| 00:06.51 | Go-er | Can't Open font dir file: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/cd-circleprint line 126. |
| 00:08.01 | she_dyed | are you in X |
| 00:09.17 | Go-er | I just fire up Elive. havent a clue what x is |
| 00:09.45 | she_dyed | its the gui desktop |
| 00:09.56 | she_dyed | aka Xwindows |
| 00:10.10 | she_dyed | point n click n all |
| 00:10.16 | Go-er | ok. understand. I thought Elive was Gnome |
| 00:10.31 | she_dyed | no thas blasphemy |
| 00:10.39 | Go-er | ? |
| 00:11.01 | she_dyed | there are a few gnome apps there but it aint gnome |
| 00:11.20 | Go-er | ok, im learning :) |
| 00:11.48 | she_dyed | think of gnome and kde as the two heavywieghts |
| 00:12.08 | Go-er | So, for Openoffice and icedove I should not load Gnome support in Synapics then? |
| 00:12.29 | she_dyed | if it hasnt broken anything you're ok |
| 00:12.34 | Go-er | (I did that) |
| 00:13.14 | Go-er | Well for eFax I added Gnmoe gui supoport in Synaptics |
| 00:13.54 | Go-er | maybe thats why it wouint work |
| 00:14.15 | she_dyed | thats for the look of it, i dont know if connectivity is the issue |
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| 00:14.57 | Go-er | ok, back to cd-circleprint with a line 126 error.....? |
| 00:15.19 | she_dyed | check for the existence of this file /etc/cd-cicrleprint.conf |
| 00:15.45 | she_dyed | usually hitting tab in the mid of typing the name works |
| 00:15.57 | she_dyed | if it completes its there |
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| 00:16.57 | Go-er | no, its not in there or listed |
| 00:17.18 | she_dyed | ls /etc/cd* turns up nothing |
| 00:17.25 | Go-er | But I installed it in Synaptics before |
| 00:17.36 | she_dyed | open synaptic |
| 00:18.06 | she_dyed | go to the cd-circleprint entry |
| 00:18.24 | she_dyed | hightlight to go to properties and list files installed, |
| 00:18.38 | she_dyed | you will know where the stuff went |
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| 00:19.51 | she_dyed | maybe its in /usr/share and needs to be copied over |
| 00:20.38 | Go-er | /usr/bin |
| 00:20.38 | Go-er | /usr/bin/cd-circleprint |
| 00:20.38 | Go-er | /usr/share |
| 00:20.38 | Go-er | /usr/share/cd-circleprint |
| 00:20.40 | Go-er | /usr/share/cd-circleprint/debian_logo.eps |
| 00:20.42 | Go-er | /usr/share/man |
| 00:20.44 | Go-er | /usr/share/man/man1 |
| 00:20.46 | Go-er | /usr/share/man/man1/cd-circleprint.1.gz |
| 00:20.48 | Go-er | /usr/share/doc |
| 00:20.50 | Go-er | /usr/share/doc/cd-circleprint |
| 00:20.54 | Go-er | /usr/share/doc/cd-circleprint/copyright |
| 00:20.56 | Go-er | /usr/share/doc/cd-circleprint/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 00:20.58 | Go-er | /usr/share/doc/cd-circleprint/changelog.gz |
| 00:21.00 | Go-er | /usr/share/menu |
| 00:21.02 | Go-er | /usr/share/menu/cd-circleprint |
| 00:21.10 | keyra | Go-er: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 00:21.36 | Go-er | Keyra: ?? |
| 00:22.17 | she_dyed | get the picture now? |
| 00:22.31 | she_dyed | it was installed, but no conf NOR sample is provided. |
| 00:22.52 | she_dyed | your pgroam tries to run, but if you dont supply a config, you have to enter the parameteres for the command |
| 00:23.08 | Go-er | what does that mean and what must i do? |
| 00:23.16 | she_dyed | as described in the man page. |
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| 00:24.16 | Elive_user1_es | hi |
| 00:24.16 | Go-er | My problem is that I use this for business and Im not a programmer or developer wiht lots of time for this |
| 00:24.47 | Go-er | I will go to the -h page again and try and work out what they are on about there. Thnx |
| 00:24.51 | she_dyed | google for cd-circleprint and sample conf file |
| 00:24.54 | she_dyed | TOGETHER |
| 00:25.03 | Go-er | ok thnx |
| 00:25.06 | she_dyed | see if anything shows you can copy as a start |
| 00:25.18 | she_dyed | otherwise contact the appa uthor by email, not elive's rpblem really |
| 00:25.29 | Go-er | ok |
| 00:25.34 | she_dyed | hi Elive_user1_es |
| 00:25.52 | she_dyed | but he would be glad to assist knowing somebody wants to use it |
| 00:26.03 | she_dyed | 9 times out of 10 |
| 00:26.07 | Go-er | thnx |
| 00:26.27 | she_dyed | should be good to go once armed with that conf |
| 00:26.31 | Elive_user1_es | hi she_dyed |
| 00:26.39 | she_dyed | hey there |
| 00:26.49 | she_dyed | you're welcome Go-er |
| 00:27.06 | Elive_user1_es | a question |
| 00:27.09 | she_dyed | but its a start, if it fails we'll nudge it along |
| 00:27.31 | she_dyed | but at least you'll be farther along then |
| 00:27.39 | she_dyed | ok Elive_user1_es |
| 00:27.40 | Elive_user1_es | how can i active a module of kernel HIGHMEM??? |
| 00:27.50 | Elive_user1_es | my english is very very bad |
| 00:27.53 | Elive_user1_es | sorry :))) |
| 00:27.58 | she_dyed | why you need to get more than what 4G of ram |
| 00:28.06 | Elive_user1_es | i have 8 |
| 00:28.12 | she_dyed | go to nurse mode |
| 00:28.13 | keyra | she_dyed: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 00:28.20 | she_dyed | to isntall a special kernel |
| 00:28.24 | Elive_user1_es | and i'm now in nurse mode |
| 00:28.28 | she_dyed | see thanks keyra |
| 00:28.42 | keyra | she_dyed: welcome :) |
| 00:28.51 | Elive_user1_es | hi keyra |
| 00:29.03 | Elive_user1_es | how install the special kernel?? |
| 00:29.34 | Elive_user1_es | i need only highmem module |
| 00:30.00 | she_dyed | maybe that kernel has it? i dont know |
| 00:30.30 | Elive_user1_es | i have 2.6.30-9 |
| 00:30.42 | Elive_user1_es | elive 1.9.50 |
| 00:31.59 | she_dyed | i dont think its a module in elive, get that kernel and you're set |
| 00:34.01 | she_dyed | or come back later when theres spanish speakers here |
| 00:34.08 | Elive_user1_es | FATAL: Module highmem not found |
| 00:34.19 | Elive_user1_es | ok |
| 00:39.09 | Elive_user1_es | 2.6.30.9-elive-core2-highmem-686 ?¿?¿?¿? |
| 00:40.53 | she_dyed | so you have it, but its not working? |
| 00:41.12 | Elive_user1_es | wiht the original?? no :( |
| 00:41.53 | Elive_user1_es | wiht synaptic i can install various kernel, but i dont now what kernel install |
| 00:42.29 | she_dyed | i think thats it! |
| 00:42.50 | she_dyed | but in nurse mode still are you? |
| 00:42.51 | Elive_user1_es | ok, i probe :) |
| 00:42.57 | Elive_user1_es | yes |
| 00:43.35 | she_dyed | dinner time, bbl |
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| 00:56.20 | Elive_user60_en | allo les copains |
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| 01:19.49 | stanca | Successfull fresh install Elive 19.50 with REiser4. |
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| 01:43.25 | Elive_user94_en | she_dyed: can you help me set this up pls? Thnx |
| 01:43.27 | Elive_user94_en | wget http://www.xmms.org/misc/winamp_presets.gz |
| 01:43.27 | Elive_user94_en | and |
| 01:43.28 | Elive_user94_en | gunzip -c winamp_presets.gz > ~/.config/audacious/eq.preset |
| 01:43.28 | Elive_user94_en | Restart / Audacious and you are all good to go. |
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| 01:43.47 | Elive_user94_en | Its for Audacious equalizer presets |
| 01:44.05 | Elive_user94_en | I got as far as gunzip and then got lost |
| 01:44.18 | Elive_user94_en | with the ./config |
| 01:45.42 | Elive_user94_en | Or anyone else can help me pls? |
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| 01:47.50 | Elive_user94_en | PrinceAMD: Can you tell me what to do with the ./config step pls? |
| 01:48.48 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user5_en, hm... |
| 01:49.06 | PrinceAMD | ios, |
| 02:04.41 | she_dyed | did you type it like that exactly Elive_user5_en? |
| 02:43.25 | kingdon | odd, this computer only has 238MB of ram |
| 02:43.37 | kingdon | it's 2.8GHz Pentium 4 Dual Process |
| 02:43.39 | keyra | kingdon: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 02:44.04 | she_dyed | a 64bit machine? |
| 02:44.16 | kingdon | how do I know? |
| 02:44.18 | keyra | she_dyed: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 02:44.38 | she_dyed | stickers heh |
| 02:44.52 | kingdon | poweredge SC420 |
| 02:44.52 | kingdon | lol |
| 02:44.56 | kingdon | it's a mystery machine |
| 02:45.04 | kingdon | they left it on my doorstop when I got my office |
| 02:45.29 | kingdon | it would be great if i maxed out the ram |
| 02:45.30 | she_dyed | what planet do you live on? I need to move there where they have strange customs |
| 02:45.34 | kingdon | it's got 1TB of disk |
| 02:45.44 | kingdon | it's planet college |
| 02:45.50 | she_dyed | lol |
| 02:46.03 | kingdon | they just hooked me up with this office and are like "go" |
| 02:46.05 | kingdon | "find the money" |
| 02:46.24 | kingdon | it's on that there internet somewhere |
| 02:47.23 | kingdon | that internet machine! |
| 02:48.11 | kingdon | this is not enough space to install and update elive |
| 02:48.25 | keyra | kingdon: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 02:48.37 | kingdon | maybe if i run the packages one by one |
| 02:48.56 | she_dyed | thought you had terabyte |
| 02:49.02 | kingdon | of disk |
| 02:49.14 | kingdon | the livecd is not like liveusb |
| 02:49.31 | kingdon | you don't get any free space on unionfs root, you get your ram |
| 02:49.33 | she_dyed | ellive only needs about 4G |
| 02:49.38 | kingdon | and cow is not allowed to be larger than that |
| 02:49.43 | kingdon | to install, yeah |
| 02:52.32 | kingdon | something is wonky with the graphics driver |
| 02:53.49 | kingdon | i'm getting this 1" vertical band of graphical shite |
| 02:53.54 | kingdon | sometimes on the screen |
| 02:54.11 | kingdon | stairstepping so you can't read it |
| 02:54.34 | kingdon | intel onboard server card :x |
| 02:54.40 | she_dyed | maybe its loose? |
| 02:54.41 | she_dyed | aaahhh |
| 02:54.50 | kingdon | at least terminals show up OK |
| 02:54.53 | kingdon | but gtk dialog windows |
| 02:54.58 | kingdon | not as much |
| 02:55.04 | keyra | kingdon: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 02:56.12 | kingdon | i915 driver |
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| 03:01.03 | kingdon | i only get that with the screen that has this huge wonky widescreen resolution |
| 03:01.08 | kingdon | 1366x768 |
| 03:01.14 | kingdon | the 4:3 monitor is fine |
| 03:01.27 | kingdon | weird |
| 03:02.57 | kingdon | processes are D |
| 03:03.02 | kingdon | i think that means blocked on disk io |
| 03:03.20 | kingdon | it's swapping a lot |
| 03:04.04 | kingdon | almost all of the active ram is paralleled by swap |
| 03:04.37 | she_dyed | try vga=ask at boot |
| 03:04.54 | kingdon | does that affect once x11 is loaded? |
| 03:05.22 | kingdon | only if you were using framebuffer video driver probably |
| 03:05.27 | she_dyed | yes |
| 03:05.39 | kingdon | blanket yes, it does? |
| 03:05.41 | kingdon | hmm |
| 03:05.46 | she_dyed | but vga=normal or vesa to force NOT framebuffer |
| 03:06.03 | she_dyed | the other, see if it does X better |
| 03:06.14 | kingdon | doesn't it normally ask you for activation code |
| 03:06.19 | kingdon | where is the dialog :x hum |
| 03:06.24 | kingdon | *waiting* |
| 03:06.44 | she_dyed | i think in the installer if you run it |
| 03:07.50 | she_dyed | but for vga= thats at grub time |
| 03:08.44 | kingdon | it's onto rsync /elive/.mnt/installing already |
| 03:11.16 | kingdon | there's not enough RAM to share with the graphics card :x |
| 03:11.19 | kingdon | i guess |
| 03:11.21 | kingdon | it's awful |
| 03:11.22 | kingdon | lol |
| 03:13.31 | she_dyed | lol |
| 03:25.09 | kingdon | and crashed |
| 03:26.16 | kingdon | ooh |
| 03:26.21 | kingdon | should have brought my laptop |
| 03:26.28 | kingdon | looks like the latest installer offers compressed root disk |
| 03:26.49 | kingdon | maybe i can squeeze an installed system onto 2.0G now |
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| 03:49.49 | kingdon | hmm |
| 03:50.06 | kingdon | i would like to set up an openafs cell |
| 03:50.23 | kingdon | and set up my own custom elive livecd |
| 03:50.37 | kingdon | so folks can get on securely from anywhere |
| 03:50.49 | kingdon | i used to have openafs |
| 03:50.56 | kingdon | it's neat |
| 03:51.08 | kingdon | way better than samba+openvpn, imho |
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| 03:51.50 | kingdon | hi DammitJim |
| 03:52.04 | DammitJim | evening |
| 03:52.31 | kingdon | sup =] |
| 03:52.39 | DammitJim | nothing much... about to do some work |
| 03:52.40 | DammitJim | you? |
| 03:52.57 | kingdon | experimenting with my 1TB disk server |
| 03:53.32 | DammitJim | what kind of experiments? |
| 03:53.35 | kingdon | i forgot the root password :x |
| 03:54.02 | kingdon | just got two 500GB disks partitioned near identically... 2G+16G+rest and 2G+8G+rest |
| 03:54.33 | kingdon | and now i have to install on the second disk, because i forgot the root password for the first disk |
| 03:54.37 | kingdon | lol |
| 03:54.57 | kingdon | could just change it in a chroot but over 10 versions have passed |
| 03:55.13 | kingdon | going to set it up as part of an openafs cell |
| 03:55.34 | kingdon | kerberos root for my christmas domain :x |
| 03:56.22 | DammitJim | christmas? |
| 03:56.37 | kingdon | i have four domains, registered around each of the primary holidays |
| 03:56.50 | kingdon | labor day, thanksgiving, christmas, and my birthday |
| 03:57.09 | kingdon | (nerdland.org, tuesdaystudios.com, cloistersofwarsaw.com, and madcrazybitches.com) |
| 03:57.37 | kingdon | figure I should commit to something big network-wise for each one, then revisit next year |
| 03:57.49 | kingdon | we're gonna need servers jim :o |
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| 04:28.32 | Elive_user96_en | hi |
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| 04:29.02 | kanthbc | hi |
| 04:31.07 | kanthbc | hi |
| 04:31.36 | kingdon | i think i must have a bad ram chip or something |
| 04:31.39 | kingdon | amazing the system works anyway |
| 04:31.47 | kingdon | video is AllFuckedUp |
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| 10:14.52 | Elive_user1_es | hi |
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| 10:15.11 | Elive_user81_fr | bonjour |
| 10:15.13 | she_dyed | hi |
| 10:15.47 | she_dyed | to change your name /nick newname |
| 10:16.41 | kingdon | heh |
| 10:16.54 | she_dyed | hey kingdon |
| 10:16.58 | kingdon | i told someone yesterday, before i started moving furniture |
| 10:17.06 | kingdon | "i'm usually available at the penguin with the word bubble" |
| 10:17.30 | kingdon | i need to start giving people my phone number |
| 10:17.31 | she_dyed | like in comics? |
| 10:17.38 | kingdon | like in itask_ng |
| 10:17.46 | she_dyed | oh heh |
| 10:18.15 | she_dyed | irc/chat icon |
| 10:18.22 | kingdon | yeah |
| 10:18.39 | kingdon | people with no computer background except they know they need a big one if they're gonna play the video games |
| 10:18.53 | keyra | kingdon: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 10:18.55 | kingdon | i'm trying to tempt people to hop on elive |
| 10:21.53 | Elive_user1_es | she_dyed, yesterday i asked how can charged the module highmem in kernel, but don't work when i install the new kernel whit synaptic |
| 10:22.34 | she_dyed | so Elive_user1_es yes you followed the 'nurse' but didnt work |
| 10:22.48 | Elive_user1_es | yes, i'm now in nurse mode |
| 10:22.54 | she_dyed | try one last thing then we wait for Thana The Man |
| 10:23.11 | she_dyed | when you boot do you see kernel-high mem |
| 10:23.18 | she_dyed | in grub? |
| 10:23.18 | Elive_user1_es | no |
| 10:23.39 | she_dyed | your grub remained the same? |
| 10:23.40 | kingdon | how many gigabytes is a high memory? |
| 10:23.58 | Elive_user1_es | kingdon, to 64 |
| 10:24.03 | Elive_user1_es | i have 8 |
| 10:24.05 | she_dyed | beyond 4G on 64bit, the way i understand it |
| 10:24.19 | keyra | she_dyed: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 10:24.37 | she_dyed | Elive_user1_es: your elive is on hdd? |
| 10:24.42 | Elive_user1_es | yes |
| 10:25.26 | Elive_user1_es | 1.9.50 |
| 10:30.18 | she_dyed | the way i understood it is, nurse will add that kernel to your boot menu |
| 10:30.31 | she_dyed | but it did not do that for Elive_user1_es |
| 10:30.59 | she_dyed | time to ring The Man's doorbell |
| 10:31.03 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: ping |
| 10:31.52 | Elive_user1_es | good :) |
| 10:32.04 | she_dyed | and he hablamos :) |
| 10:32.17 | Elive_user1_es | good spanish ;)) |
| 10:32.26 | kingdon | haha |
| 10:32.34 | she_dyed | i still think you're english is good |
| 10:32.44 | she_dyed | good enough for troubleshooting |
| 10:32.45 | Elive_user1_es | noooooo |
| 10:32.48 | Elive_user1_es | :( |
| 10:32.57 | she_dyed | (kingdon, i tink he wants to curse in spanish) |
| 10:33.03 | Elive_user1_es | i promise to learn more |
| 10:33.10 | kingdon | with english like youre's, i'm asking for a second opinion |
| 10:33.12 | kingdon | lol |
| 10:33.15 | kingdon | she_dyed |
| 10:33.21 | she_dyed | omg he caught it |
| 10:33.37 | she_dyed | puts white-out on monitor |
| 10:34.43 | kingdon | oh no |
| 10:34.47 | kingdon | ferite cvs does not compile :( |
| 10:40.14 | kingdon | ok, so you just need to hit make twice |
| 10:40.17 | kingdon | that's odd |
| 10:40.32 | she_dyed | with no change ? weird |
| 10:41.42 | kingdon | yep, it gets hung up on IPC |
| 10:41.46 | kingdon | no rule to make |
| 10:42.00 | kingdon | then on the second go, it works fine |
| 10:42.10 | kingdon | now again on TCP |
| 10:42.27 | kingdon | lets see if the fix is just as easy |
| 10:42.28 | kingdon | lol |
| 10:42.48 | kingdon | yep |
| 10:42.54 | she_dyed | lol |
| 10:43.15 | she_dyed | i'd shoot an email out to the dev, not bother with a reply |
| 10:43.20 | she_dyed | just to give a heads up |
| 10:43.31 | kingdon | you're the second person who told me to email him today |
| 10:43.34 | she_dyed | 'hey guys get your head out of your ass' |
| 10:43.45 | kingdon | i want to email him when i've got some code |
| 10:43.51 | kingdon | of my own |
| 10:44.07 | kingdon | this euchre game is piss poor |
| 10:44.16 | kingdon | doesn't even shuffle the deck yet |
| 10:44.41 | she_dyed | oh a work in progress |
| 10:45.05 | she_dyed | wouldnt be so crude then |
| 10:45.31 | kingdon | i'm aiming for ncurses, tcp networking, and player AI |
| 10:45.35 | kingdon | once the game logic is implemented |
| 10:46.37 | kingdon | ferite is the language |
| 10:46.44 | kingdon | he's not writing a game, I am :) |
| 10:46.44 | kingdon | heh |
| 10:46.50 | she_dyed | oh |
| 10:47.35 | kingdon | hopefully doesn't take more than 3 weeks to do all of those |
| 10:47.39 | kingdon | then I can take a vacation |
| 10:47.51 | kingdon | and get real drunk for at least 4 days |
| 10:47.57 | she_dyed | going somewhere? |
| 10:48.01 | kingdon | not on my budget |
| 10:48.08 | she_dyed | justlocal but drunk |
| 10:48.11 | she_dyed | good plan |
| 10:48.14 | kingdon | i have $200 living expenses for the month each month |
| 10:48.24 | she_dyed | where you at? |
| 10:48.30 | kingdon | rochester, ny |
| 10:48.44 | she_dyed | not bad then |
| 10:48.58 | kingdon | hajjing back and forth to warsaw, which is an hour by car |
| 10:50.45 | kingdon | and my office in the weekdays |
| 10:50.51 | kingdon | about 40 minutes bike ride |
| 10:51.33 | she_dyed | is it cold to pedal? |
| 10:51.57 | kingdon | yep |
| 10:52.07 | kingdon | takes nearly half an hour to thaw out my hands for typing |
| 10:54.26 | she_dyed | what, dip in hot water? |
| 10:54.28 | she_dyed | omg |
| 10:54.35 | kingdon | that's too shocking |
| 10:54.44 | kingdon | read a book and cup of coffee maybe |
| 10:54.57 | she_dyed | clasp the mug yeah |
| 10:55.00 | she_dyed | i remember |
| 10:55.25 | she_dyed | and i'd stock up on cocoa+marshmallow packs |
| 10:55.46 | she_dyed | the only time of year i'd put up with that |
| 10:55.54 | she_dyed | and hot nuked soup |
| 10:58.42 | *** join/#elive DronAn[BY] (n=Elive_us@93.125.75.65) |
| 10:59.39 | DronAn[BY] | Hello world |
| 11:01.03 | *** join/#elive Elive_user76_de (n=Elive_us@p5793CE9B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:01.40 | Elive_user76_de | Hello everybody. |
| 11:02.07 | kingdon | hio |
| 11:02.07 | she_dyed | hey DronAn[BY] abd Elive_user76_de |
| 11:02.13 | Elive_user76_de | Is there anybody in charge for shipping? |
| 11:02.42 | she_dyed | got to be question of the day |
| 11:03.01 | Elive_user76_de | I've offered version 7 about 10 days ago. |
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| 11:03.23 | Elive_user76_de | didnt receive it yet. |
| 11:03.30 | Elive_user1_es | hi again |
| 11:03.45 | DronAn[BY] | Elive_user76_de, Version of what? |
| 11:04.08 | Elive_user76_de | Even thou I have prepayd it. |
| 11:04.27 | DronAn[BY] | Elive_user76_de, Version of what? |
| 11:04.29 | Elive_user76_de | Version of the Operating System |
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| 11:04.52 | DronAn[BY] | What version? |
| 11:05.01 | she_dyed | Windows? |
| 11:05.23 | DronAn[BY] | Elive_user76_de, are you trole? |
| 11:05.32 | Elive_user76_de | no windows... Operation System by Microsoft. |
| 11:05.47 | Elive_user76_de | no I'm not from Tyrol |
| 11:06.02 | DronAn[BY] | Elive_user76_de, go and ask Billi |
| 11:06.08 | she_dyed | i think it's one of our guys |
| 11:06.10 | Elive_user76_de | Who is billi |
| 11:06.14 | Elive_user76_de | ?? |
| 11:06.32 | Elive_user1_es | billi the kid?? |
| 11:06.34 | Elive_user1_es | :)))) |
| 11:06.41 | she_dyed | the one that got the pie in the face in belgium |
| 11:07.07 | Elive_user76_de | pie in the face? |
| 11:07.25 | Elive_user76_de | is there any video about that? |
| 11:07.31 | she_dyed | yep youtube |
| 11:07.42 | Elive_user76_de | link? |
| 11:07.51 | she_dyed | use search man |
| 11:08.05 | Elive_user76_de | I used to use Google. What is SearchMan? |
| 11:08.29 | she_dyed | his real name is bing |
| 11:11.05 | kingdon | i've got four more smokes to have before breakfast :x |
| 11:11.09 | kingdon | and then i can probably pass out |
| 11:11.34 | kingdon | better make em count |
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| 11:37.08 | AlexAnteMachina | hi |
| 11:37.31 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, o/ |
| 11:37.36 | she_dyed | we just shrinkwrap version 8 |
| 11:37.45 | she_dyed | \o |
| 11:37.49 | she_dyed | lol |
| 11:37.55 | AlexAnteMachina | *yumm*... shrinkwraps... |
| 11:38.18 | kingdon | there's really stable builds? |
| 11:38.19 | kingdon | :D |
| 11:38.43 | she_dyed | those words were never meant to be together |
| 11:38.45 | kingdon | i was too skiddish to actually throw the money in the bucket |
| 11:38.55 | kingdon | and find out what stable elive is like |
| 11:40.01 | AlexAnteMachina | no money in the bucket? Damn! What did I place it for!?!? |
| 11:40.32 | kingdon | i want to throw it in |
| 11:40.40 | she_dyed | to donate |
| 11:40.46 | kingdon | but i just can't see doing it until i see someone else using elive |
| 11:40.48 | kingdon | in person |
| 11:40.55 | kingdon | hopefully i'll convince them |
| 11:41.13 | AlexAnteMachina | them? |
| 11:41.26 | kingdon | the folks that care to sit in a room while i'm using a computer |
| 11:41.28 | kingdon | maybe theirs |
| 11:41.35 | kingdon | i'm all about elive |
| 11:41.52 | kingdon | i'm bringing my ex-COO a copy for her old laptop |
| 11:41.58 | kingdon | when she finally decides to buy a new computer |
| 11:42.09 | kingdon | maybe she'll have it on both machines |
| 11:42.11 | AlexAnteMachina | what's a COO |
| 11:42.22 | kingdon | chief officer of operations for a telecom giant |
| 11:42.28 | she_dyed | heh all it took was for boss to see the start splash where the golden e glides onto the white blanket |
| 11:42.45 | kingdon | she will totally dig it |
| 11:43.03 | she_dyed | and that's the default :) |
| 11:43.04 | kingdon | i don't know if she'll use it, but her kids will get a new toy |
| 11:43.20 | kingdon | they're probably almost 7 |
| 11:43.36 | AlexAnteMachina | People are just too much used to use microsoft stuff. |
| 11:43.39 | kingdon | get them off of bill's computar |
| 11:43.49 | kingdon | i sold them a mac two years ago maybe |
| 11:44.06 | kingdon | bill loves it, he's a fiery foods retailer |
| 11:44.07 | kingdon | :D |
| 11:44.14 | kingdon | he'll probably dig elive too |
| 11:44.32 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg* |
| 11:44.49 | kingdon | "you mean i have my own genius bar, and I don't have to go to the mall? |
| 11:44.53 | kingdon | *swoon* |
| 11:46.30 | she_dyed | hmm how does she look |
| 11:46.51 | kingdon | like a PhD student |
| 11:47.11 | kingdon | http://www.americanfibersystems.com |
| 11:47.13 | kingdon | this company |
| 11:47.20 | kingdon | we're no longer with them |
| 11:47.30 | kingdon | but she's on my board |
| 11:47.36 | kingdon | @tuesdaystudios.com |
| 11:47.36 | kingdon | lol |
| 11:47.38 | kingdon | darlene |
| 11:48.51 | she_dyed | thas funny i had known someone and visited her cubicle frequently, name marlene |
| 11:49.30 | kingdon | she's helping me with my fund raising drive |
| 11:49.35 | kingdon | with small pokes and prods |
| 11:49.40 | kingdon | "are you sure you want $9?" |
| 11:50.01 | kingdon | "cause I can send you $9, if it's going to keep my e-mail on for another year" |
| 11:50.56 | she_dyed | hey hotmail was hanging by a thread until some guy made a contribution like that |
| 11:51.39 | she_dyed | 'and saved the world' |
| 11:52.23 | kingdon | i've got a street hustler saving my credit right now |
| 11:52.44 | she_dyed | lol dont give too much info |
| 11:52.58 | she_dyed | so when they bring me in for questioning i can honestly say |
| 11:53.04 | she_dyed | dont know anything about that |
| 11:53.21 | kingdon | having me write bad checks so I've gotta raid all my bank accounts and move money over somewhere so it's good |
| 11:53.29 | kingdon | "no man i don't want to write you a check" |
| 11:53.36 | kingdon | "come on do it, i'll have her tear it up" |
| 11:54.20 | kingdon | that $130 is now a lot more valuable to me than it was when it was sitting in the other account |
| 11:54.26 | kingdon | like my last $130 on the earth |
| 11:54.39 | she_dyed | oh man |
| 11:54.52 | she_dyed | i feel your pain |
| 11:55.08 | kingdon | and there's a maybe-check out there somewhere, in an undetermined state |
| 11:55.10 | kingdon | lol |
| 11:55.22 | keyra | kingdon: warning: eterm does NOT support UTF8 characters, this will also break files that has utf8 characters, use urxvt instead |
| 11:55.26 | kingdon | "i can't believe you had her tear that up man, that was my batman check... i only got one of those" |
| 11:55.44 | she_dyed | like lines from a frickin movie |
| 11:56.12 | kingdon | would you talk to a person who hangs out in front of a downtown laundromat? |
| 11:56.14 | kingdon | it's like a movie |
| 11:56.22 | she_dyed | you lived it |
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| 11:56.41 | kingdon | i also got robbed delivering chinese food once |
| 11:56.52 | kingdon | he took my phone and my money :o |
| 11:56.55 | she_dyed | you didnt get beat up did u |
| 11:56.55 | keyra | kingdon: Elive in chinese ? Well... this is a howto for japanese http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml |
| 11:57.19 | AlexAnteMachina | kingdon, where are you living? |
| 11:57.24 | kingdon | Rochester, NY |
| 11:57.53 | kingdon | it's not such a rough area |
| 11:57.57 | kingdon | no i didn't get beat up |
| 11:58.11 | kingdon | but I was in a stairwell, and he was loud, and convincing spanish accent |
| 11:58.20 | kingdon | should have taken the elevator |
| 11:58.46 | she_dyed | you've found hesus |
| 11:59.34 | kingdon | damn i signed up for something earlier with my nerdland.org email |
| 11:59.39 | kingdon | and the mail didn't go through |
| 11:59.54 | kingdon | and now I can't remember what, and it's not in my history anywhere |
| 12:00.21 | she_dyed | even in sidebar > history? |
| 12:00.47 | she_dyed | that goes back days |
| 12:01.01 | kingdon | it's not here, maybe i was using the other computer |
| 12:03.51 | DronAn[BY] | kingdon, that's some story :( |
| 12:04.43 | kingdon | DronAn[BY]: inner city folks behave like special agents when you give them telephones that have unlimited calling |
| 12:04.48 | kingdon | verizon wireless customers |
| 12:05.10 | kingdon | they want that money |
| 12:05.18 | kingdon | and if you're not a total dick to them, they want you to want it just as bad |
| 12:05.24 | kingdon | so they can rip you off again, if possible :D |
| 12:05.49 | DronAn | kill'em all |
| 12:05.52 | DronAn | :) |
| 12:06.01 | kingdon | he's tryin to get me a date, even |
| 12:06.26 | kingdon | got some girl on the phone with me asking, "well do you have my $60?" |
| 12:06.46 | kingdon | he went out and got drunk with her on my money a few nights prior |
| 12:06.53 | kingdon | unless she really did tear up the check |
| 12:07.09 | kingdon | then, i'm betting she paid |
| 12:07.10 | kingdon | HEH |
| 12:07.22 | kingdon | married girl, but still |
| 12:08.07 | kingdon | i should be coding |
| 12:08.14 | kingdon | not telling bullshit stories about bullshit laundry guy |
| 12:08.30 | DronAn | :) |
| 12:08.55 | DronAn | have a short rest |
| 12:11.27 | she_dyed | i think this *is his rest, like a short break |
| 12:12.29 | she_dyed | good story, like Nice Guy Eddie telling the guys about E Lois and the Black Beverly Hills |
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| 12:14.40 | kingdon | yeah something like that |
| 12:14.54 | kingdon | now back to implementing combinators |
| 12:17.45 | kingdon | *desperately wants to shuffle this deck of cards* |
| 12:20.05 | AlexAnteMachina | desperately wants to beat anybody not telling the Elive-Version when asking questions in the Forum. |
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| 13:05.42 | AlexAnteMachina | howdy! |
| 13:05.56 | LinuxNIT | howdy! |
| 13:06.07 | AlexAnteMachina | whassup? |
| 13:06.17 | LinuxNIT | getting ready to head to fellowship |
| 13:06.34 | AlexAnteMachina | ??? |
| 13:06.36 | LinuxNIT | (church in a home) |
| 13:06.42 | AlexAnteMachina | what? |
| 13:06.49 | AlexAnteMachina | church in a home? |
| 13:06.53 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 13:07.03 | LinuxNIT | you know what church is right? |
| 13:07.07 | AlexAnteMachina | yo |
| 13:07.20 | AlexAnteMachina | y does one need a church at home? |
| 13:07.20 | LinuxNIT | we do our equivelant in a home |
| 13:07.30 | AlexAnteMachina | what for? |
| 13:07.39 | LinuxNIT | to learn more about God and his word |
| 13:07.49 | LinuxNIT | why else would one go to church |
| 13:07.50 | AlexAnteMachina | Wont "normal" churches fit your needs? |
| 13:08.18 | LinuxNIT | our group is not big enough to need a normal church sized building |
| 13:08.37 | AlexAnteMachina | what's that groups name? |
| 13:08.50 | LinuxNIT | Christian Biblical Studies |
| 13:09.00 | AlexAnteMachina | never heard |
| 13:09.05 | AlexAnteMachina | anyway. |
| 13:09.13 | LinuxNIT | its pretty small |
| 13:09.16 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm a nonbeliever |
| 13:09.45 | LinuxNIT | non-believer of what? |
| 13:09.49 | LinuxNIT | everyone believes something |
| 13:09.53 | AlexAnteMachina | nope. |
| 13:10.02 | LinuxNIT | sure they do |
| 13:10.06 | AlexAnteMachina | nope. |
| 13:10.19 | LinuxNIT | so do you believe there is a God? |
| 13:10.23 | AlexAnteMachina | no. |
| 13:10.32 | LinuxNIT | then you believe there is no god. |
| 13:10.36 | AlexAnteMachina | no |
| 13:10.40 | LinuxNIT | right |
| 13:11.40 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm absolutely non-religious. |
| 13:11.46 | LinuxNIT | so am i |
| 13:11.55 | LinuxNIT | religion gets you no where |
| 13:12.17 | LinuxNIT | its believing in Jesus Christ and on Gods word that produces results |
| 13:12.27 | AlexAnteMachina | well, ok. |
| 13:12.36 | AlexAnteMachina | if that works for you its nice. |
| 13:12.48 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 13:12.52 | AlexAnteMachina | yo |
| 13:13.13 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 13:15.39 | AlexAnteMachina | Oh, nice. Net-connector now has vpn-settings!? |
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| 13:16.05 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 13:16.12 | LinuxNIT | thank Thanatermesis and DronAn[BY] / DronAn |
| 13:16.23 | AlexAnteMachina | I never ever used VPN |
| 13:16.32 | LinuxNIT | me either |
| 13:16.36 | AlexAnteMachina | Should learn about it. |
| 13:16.36 | DronAn[BY] | )) |
| 13:16.43 | LinuxNIT | me too |
| 13:16.48 | LinuxNIT | well i need to pack it up |
| 13:16.53 | LinuxNIT | yall have a good day now |
| 13:16.57 | AlexAnteMachina | I just came across the "VPN Settings" message in Eltrans. |
| 13:16.59 | DronAn[BY] | AlexAnteMachina, prob. you do not need it at all |
| 13:17.06 | AlexAnteMachina | dont know |
| 13:17.23 | AlexAnteMachina | its kind of a secure connection via inet. |
| 13:18.01 | AlexAnteMachina | could be useful when administrating my server remotely from beyond my network.# |
| 13:18.12 | DronAn | oO |
| 13:18.15 | DronAn | As well |
| 13:18.19 | AlexAnteMachina | no? |
| 13:18.25 | DronAn | Yes |
| 13:18.26 | AlexAnteMachina | well, if not tell me. |
| 13:18.42 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm keen on new knowledge |
| 13:18.48 | DronAn | But mostly it needed to connect to internet |
| 13:19.16 | DronAn | Look at wiki about it |
| 13:19.26 | AlexAnteMachina | listening to "The Gossip"... like that Album pretty much. |
| 13:19.27 | DronAn | There is PPTP |
| 13:19.33 | DronAn | M$ VPN |
| 13:19.41 | AlexAnteMachina | pptp??? |
| 13:19.46 | DronAn | Yes |
| 13:19.51 | AlexAnteMachina | ever tried speaking that in a workd? |
| 13:19.52 | DronAn | VPN is PPtP |
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| 13:20.22 | Thanatermesis | DronAn, pong |
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| 13:20.40 | DronAn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pptp |
| 13:20.44 | DronAn | Thanatermesis, ping |
| 13:21.01 | AlexAnteMachina | gets a knot iin ones tongue |
| 13:21.13 | AlexAnteMachina | oh hi thana |
| 13:22.37 | Thanatermesis | vpn doesn't should be changed to pptp ? |
| 13:22.44 | Thanatermesis | hi alex |
| 13:22.54 | Thanatermesis | vpn word* |
| 13:24.01 | DronAn | It's known as VPN more than PPTP by users |
| 13:25.00 | DronAn | If be true :) There is many diggerent VPN's )) |
| 13:25.08 | DronAn | *different |
| 13:25.25 | Thanatermesis | yes... this is why i say |
| 13:25.30 | AlexAnteMachina | I never used VPN. Only know the things mentioned above and that its name means "Virtual Private Network" |
| 13:25.48 | Thanatermesis | but, all the users that needs this pptp/vpn setups, they KNOW that is called pptp, right ? |
| 13:25.55 | AlexAnteMachina | wow... it's got late! I need to go out with my dog! |
| 13:25.58 | DronAn | Thanatermesis, VPN is Ok |
| 13:26.24 | AlexAnteMachina | bbl |
| 13:26.28 | AlexAnteMachina | o/ |
| 13:26.33 | AlexAnteMachina | Ciao! |
| 13:26.48 | DronAn | Thanatermesis, Basicaly there is VPN and OpenVPN |
| 13:27.01 | DronAn | And cisco VPN |
| 13:27.06 | DronAn | :) |
| 13:28.44 | Thanatermesis | well, im thinkin in the possibility that somebody will want a kind of vpn and this is not the one that he's searching for |
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| 13:32.16 | DronAn | Thanatermesis, if he want connect to somewhere he will, anyway |
| 13:34.09 | DronAn | Thanatermesis, do not be warry about it |
| 13:34.32 | DronAn | VPN it is common |
| 13:35.01 | DronAn | If it is Open VPN it's called OpenVPN |
| 13:36.33 | DronAn | apt-cache search openvpn |
| 13:37.48 | DronAn | apt-cache search cisco- |
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| 13:53.28 | Thanatermesis | ok |
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| 14:18.57 | stanca | Ecomorph is working in my fresh 19.50. |
| 14:20.21 | stanca | But I still don't know how to make gsetroot's or esetroot's settings permanently. |
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| 15:15.58 | AlexAnteMachina | o/ |
| 15:16.00 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
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| 15:17.51 | stanca | Should I choose Reiser4 with compression? |
| 15:18.17 | stanca | Instead of default? |
| 15:23.23 | DronAn | AlexAnteMachina, Hello :) |
| 15:24.54 | AlexAnteMachina | hi DronAn |
| 15:30.55 | stanca | There's no kernel-legacy for nvidia-legacy 173 driver in 1.9.50 for the new 2.6.30.9 kernel. |
| 15:31.34 | Thanatermesis | stanca, yes, it is |
| 15:31.47 | stanca | So I can't install this driver for my gpu card. |
| 15:31.54 | Thanatermesis | |-- 173 |
| 15:31.54 | Thanatermesis | | |-- nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx_173.14.20-1_i386.deb |
| 15:31.54 | Thanatermesis | | `-- nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-2.6.30.9-elive-686_173.14.20-1+21.Elive_i386.deb |
| 15:32.12 | Thanatermesis | stanca, in live mode ? |
| 15:32.33 | stanca | I'm stuck with 96 driver in installed mode. |
| 15:33.36 | stanca | In live mode it worked. |
| 15:35.00 | Thanatermesis | so... |
| 15:35.14 | Thanatermesis | in live mode you ahve installed the 173 version and when you install, it installs the version 96 ? |
| 15:36.28 | Thanatermesis | yes, i see this problem in the installer |
| 15:36.32 | Thanatermesis | let me fix it |
| 15:37.18 | stanca | With 173 driver I installed it but it wasn't booting after reboot. |
| 15:37.30 | Thanatermesis | yes, i have found the problem |
| 15:37.43 | Thanatermesis | stanca, return to the live mode and tell me when you are in, ill send you a updated version of the installer |
| 15:37.50 | Thanatermesis | with the fix |
| 15:39.20 | stanca | It couldn't get to the entrance even and the display is flashing continuously showing the message:acpid loading... |
| 15:39.49 | Thanatermesis | stanca, return to the live mode and tell me when you are in, ill send you a updated version of the installer |
| 15:40.01 | Thanatermesis | i have fixed it |
| 15:40.12 | stanca | I am in the installed mode,but with the 96 legacy driver. |
| 15:40.28 | Thanatermesis | so, can you reinstall it ? |
| 15:40.56 | stanca | What?The driver 173? |
| 15:41.02 | Thanatermesis | reinstall Elive |
| 15:41.05 | Thanatermesis | with the problem fixed |
| 15:41.14 | Thanatermesis | yes, with 173 problem fixed |
| 15:42.46 | stanca | The same 1.9.50 version of Elive? |
| 15:43.02 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 15:43.55 | stanca | Again already? |
| 15:44.07 | Thanatermesis | yes, but you need to update hte installer |
| 15:44.19 | Thanatermesis | so: apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g |
| 15:44.34 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 15:45.32 | stanca | Couldn't it be fixed by an repos updates? |
| 15:46.07 | Thanatermesis | is more easy, fast, and stable if you do it from the installer |
| 15:46.18 | Thanatermesis | but of course you can do it from apt-get |
| 15:46.26 | Thanatermesis | but you need to know what to touch exactly |
| 15:46.29 | Thanatermesis | like holding packages |
| 15:46.40 | Thanatermesis | like i say, is more fast and stable if you do it from the installer |
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| 15:52.17 | stanca | I used Reiser4 default,should I use with compression one? |
| 15:52.42 | Thanatermesis | with compression should work more fast |
| 15:52.49 | Thanatermesis | use the lzo one, not gzip |
| 15:53.10 | stanca | Wich one?Gzip or izo? |
| 15:53.23 | stanca | OK! |
| 15:57.10 | AlexAnteMachina | I just read about REiser4. That's interesting! |
| 15:57.30 | AlexAnteMachina | It's able to handle Metadata. |
| 15:58.26 | AlexAnteMachina | Wasnt Microsoft talking about a new FS for win7 that should have that feature, too!? |
| 16:00.24 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, I just read that Gparted is not able to resize Reiser4 Partitions. |
| 16:02.45 | stanca | I made all the changes from synaptic now,I'll reboot and see what happens. |
| 16:05.12 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, the only thing that microsoft knows how to do, is to copy things from others |
| 16:06.39 | AlexAnteMachina | Well, Thanatermesis there must be something they are good at! |
| 16:06.43 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
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| 16:08.42 | stanca | What you thought?I'm really back again.It worked from synaptic too.Thanks for the eliveinstaller-4g update. |
| 16:08.56 | keyra | stanca: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 16:10.14 | stanca | I have already the latest 1.9.50,or it's already a new one?1.9.51? |
| 16:10.56 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, not really, if at least their things work good... copied or not, but the result copied or not is a crap |
| 16:11.14 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, how to resize (grow/shrink) a Reiser4 partition? Gparted is not able to do that. |
| 16:11.17 | stanca | Ecomorph is working fine now. |
| 16:11.24 | Thanatermesis | stanca, just update hte installer from the live mode |
| 16:11.34 | Thanatermesis | ah ok,you have installed |
| 16:11.44 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, do not do that :) |
| 16:11.51 | Thanatermesis | or write a tool for it |
| 16:11.58 | Thanatermesis | i think that reiser4 doesn't manages that |
| 16:12.14 | Thanatermesis | stills a new and experimental filesystem |
| 16:12.14 | Thanatermesis | not already implemented on the main kernel |
| 16:12.52 | stanca | Has anyone tried the 2.6.31 kernel? |
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| 16:13.45 | AlexAnteMachina | In that case I think I will use ext4 as soon as gparted is able to grow/shrink it. |
| 16:14.41 | stanca | What about gsetroot's settings?How can they be made permanent? |
| 16:15.19 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, just use the one that fits better your needs |
| 16:15.28 | Thanatermesis | stanca, you dont need it |
| 16:15.38 | Thanatermesis | enable "ecomorph mode" in the checkbox of hte module |
| 16:16.15 | she_dyed | will just getting the eliveinstaller get me an upgrade? or still d.load the iso? |
| 16:16.29 | keyra | she_dyed: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 16:16.56 | stanca | I just need it for conky and gkrellm,or I can do it from ecomorph's opacity now?I didn't think about it untill now. |
| 16:17.55 | Thanatermesis | stanca, i dont think |
| 16:18.03 | Thanatermesis | stanca, try "htop" instead, like a replacement |
| 16:18.08 | Thanatermesis | see the features in the bottom |
| 16:18.12 | Thanatermesis | and the "h" key |
| 16:18.55 | Thanatermesis | stanca, for permanent things, see your file .elxstrt |
| 16:24.16 | stanca | I don 't know what to write in .elxstrt for it. |
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| 16:30.42 | she_dyed | which one, gsetroot? |
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| 16:44.14 | stanca | Yes.With gsetroot I can set the full transparency for conky,gkrellm and urvxt terminal,by choosing your background.Exactly as in elpanel-manage backgrounds. |
| 16:44.29 | keyra | stanca: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 16:44.44 | she_dyed | i used the old esetroot and lately qiv -x filename |
| 16:45.12 | she_dyed | have you installed gsetroot? |
| 16:45.47 | she_dyed | oh its Esetroot if you have it already |
| 16:48.22 | stanca | So it is an old issue.I read the link. |
| 16:49.07 | she_dyed | but try it with the ecomorph and bling module |
| 16:49.33 | she_dyed | personally i think bling is conky's arch enemy but see if its better now |
| 16:51.07 | stanca | I set them in ecomorph already.Now let's see after a reboot.Bye! |
| 16:51.18 | she_dyed | k |
| 16:51.27 | she_dyed | reboot? |
| 16:51.41 | she_dyed | kids these days |
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| 16:55.46 | Elive_user3_en | what up |
| 16:56.57 | she_dyed | hey man |
| 16:57.26 | she_dyed | brb |
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| 16:58.10 | DronAn | 25Elive 282 Wow |
| 16:58.37 | DronAn | I wasn't there for long time |
| 16:59.03 | DronAn | Elive Is Super Power :) |
| 16:59.19 | NerdRunner | its the best kept secret |
| 16:59.52 | NerdRunner | yeah |
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| 17:02.39 | DronAn | Elive up on 10 positions for the 4 weks (or some) |
| 17:02.47 | DronAn | http://distrowatch.com/ |
| 17:04.12 | NerdRunner | ok |
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| 17:35.57 | AlexAnteMachina | haha! DronAn i've just read about VPN on wikipedia. |
| 17:36.26 | AlexAnteMachina | That's a really good article. |
| 17:39.21 | DronAn | Uhu |
| 17:39.43 | AlexAnteMachina | uhu? |
| 17:39.50 | AlexAnteMachina | that's a german glue brand. |
| 17:40.48 | DronAn | Russian )) |
| 17:41.03 | DronAn | mean Yes |
| 17:41.24 | DronAn | http://2dboy.com/2009/02/12/world-of-goo-linux-version-is-ready/ |
| 17:41.45 | DronAn | This is some game :) |
| 17:43.24 | AlexAnteMachina | Lol! I already have that Game! |
| 17:43.46 | AlexAnteMachina | I strongly recommend playing World of Goo!! |
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| 17:47.50 | Thanatermesis | DronAn, ping |
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| 17:47.57 | DronAn | pong |
| 17:48.00 | Thanatermesis | see PV |
| 17:51.57 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, Thanatermesis there are upgrades available.... |
| 17:52.17 | AlexAnteMachina | Where is that iso-boot thing? |
| 17:52.33 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install upgrade-elive |
| 17:52.48 | keyra | Thanatermesis: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 17:54.06 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, why is it still in english? I've translated it yesterday. |
| 17:54.56 | Thanatermesis | maybe because i have not do a rebuild of it since yesterday :) |
| 17:55.26 | AlexAnteMachina | ah.. okay. |
| 17:57.44 | AlexAnteMachina | that's an interesting tool |
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| 17:58.24 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt_eee |
| 17:58.31 | wasynyt_eee | good evening people |
| 17:58.44 | Thanatermesis | very handy, yes :) |
| 17:58.46 | Thanatermesis | hi wasynyt |
| 17:59.01 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing Thanatermesis and AlexAnteMachina |
| 17:59.51 | DronAn | wasynyt_eee, Hi |
| 17:59.57 | Thanatermesis | not bad, working :) |
| 18:00.08 | Thanatermesis | and waiting the distrowatch announcement since 2-3 days ago |
| 18:00.14 | Thanatermesis | but there's no :/ |
| 18:01.21 | wasynyt_eee | :/ |
| 18:01.30 | wasynyt_eee | how are you doing DronAn |
| 18:01.43 | DronAn | Not bad ^^ |
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| 18:06.35 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, now testing upgrade-elive |
| 18:06.49 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 18:06.50 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, im not sure if will work for you |
| 18:06.54 | Thanatermesis | i mean, in your version of Elive |
| 18:07.10 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, but if is just for test i will recommend you to wait the next iso |
| 18:07.23 | Thanatermesis | i mean, if is not in a "tests machine only" |
| 18:07.46 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm testing it on my testing computer. |
| 18:08.50 | AlexAnteMachina | Trying to upgrade 1.9.48 to 1.9.50 |
| 18:13.13 | DronAn | AlexAnteMachina, I did |
| 18:13.36 | AlexAnteMachina | u did what? |
| 18:13.42 | DronAn | AlexAnteMachina, updated |
| 18:13.55 | AlexAnteMachina | play world of Goo? Test upgrade-elive? |
| 18:14.09 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 18:14.10 | DronAn | upgrade-elive |
| 18:18.57 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, i've got problems with gtkam |
| 18:19.20 | AlexAnteMachina | it's closing every now and then. |
| 18:31.38 | AlexAnteMachina | hey Thanatermesis |
| 18:32.01 | AlexAnteMachina | it's asking for the partitioning tool I'd like to use. |
| 18:32.38 | AlexAnteMachina | that looks pretty much as if it's going to do a NEW INSTALL instead of a upgrade. |
| 18:32.57 | AlexAnteMachina | any hints? |
| 18:33.06 | AlexAnteMachina | DronAn, did it act the same to you? |
| 18:36.24 | DronAn | Yes |
| 18:36.27 | DronAn | Firs |
| 18:36.31 | DronAn | First |
| 18:36.43 | DronAn | Close tool |
| 18:37.22 | DronAn | Install nstaller-4g |
| 18:37.31 | DronAn | *installer-4g |
| 18:37.36 | DronAn | and run it |
| 18:38.33 | DronAn | If you are loaded in update mode |
| 18:43.41 | AlexAnteMachina | you mean in live-mode. |
| 18:44.08 | DronAn | How do you trying to update? |
| 18:44.15 | DronAn | From new app? |
| 18:44.37 | DronAn | What not need CD or USB? |
| 18:45.03 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, now testing upgrade-elive |
| 18:45.17 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 18:45.36 | AlexAnteMachina | thats what ive tried. |
| 18:48.28 | DronAn | Ok |
| 18:48.40 | DronAn | What have you done? |
| 18:48.49 | DronAn | Where are you now? |
| 18:49.08 | DronAn | Start upgrade-elive |
| 18:49.30 | DronAn | show to it new ISO lacation |
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| 19:05.27 | Wizard | hi! |
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| 19:37.07 | DronAn | Wizard, Hello |
| 19:39.46 | Wizard | hi DronAn |
| 19:40.22 | Wizard | they cut off eclipse from debian repos :( |
| 19:40.36 | keyra | Wizard: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 19:40.51 | Wizard | oh, shut up, bitch.. |
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| 19:46.05 | DronAn | Wizard, are they? |
| 19:46.31 | DronAn | Eclipse is shrot |
| 19:46.33 | DronAn | :) |
| 19:47.45 | Wizard | why do you think so? |
| 19:53.40 | DronAn | Was deal with it |
| 19:58.11 | Wizard | i use it at work |
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| 20:26.10 | QubeZ | hello all |
| 20:26.37 | QubeZ | i have an MSI Wind, where can I find info on setting up suspend feature when I close the lid? Right now, i have to manually suspend/unsuspend the laptop |
| 20:27.10 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install gnome-power-manager QubeZ |
| 20:27.23 | Thanatermesis | then add it to the remember features of e17 |
| 20:27.29 | Thanatermesis | so that will be autorun at login |
| 20:27.40 | QubeZ | Thanatermesis: thanks man |
| 20:27.53 | Thanatermesis | welcome :) |
| 20:27.55 | QubeZ | I've been reading alot on EFL development, hopefully I can write some worthwhile stuff soon :) |
| 20:28.22 | Thanatermesis | have you see the howto-efl thing on the dev Elive site ? |
| 20:28.52 | QubeZ | yup, you gave me links to it |
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| 20:29.26 | Thanatermesis | ah yes, i remember now :) |
| 20:29.34 | Thanatermesis | how was the reading ? |
| 20:29.51 | QubeZ | not bad, i come from a perl/C/C++ background so I should be able to get up to speed quickly |
| 20:30.05 | keyra | QubeZ: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 20:30.10 | Thanatermesis | specially with EFL api :) |
| 20:30.21 | QubeZ | Thanatermesis: thanks |
| 20:32.04 | QubeZ | hmm keyra, why am i looking at this |
| 20:32.06 | QubeZ | ? |
| 20:34.06 | Thanatermesis | QubeZ, keyra is a bot, she has mistaken your "background" word with a old problem :) |
| 20:34.20 | Thanatermesis | well, more than problem just a faq question |
| 20:34.20 | keyra | Thanatermesis: me? |
| 20:34.26 | Thanatermesis | keyra, yes, you, bot :P |
| 20:34.40 | keyra | Thanatermesis: you think so? |
| 20:34.44 | QubeZ | lol |
| 20:35.13 | DronAn | keyra, Gi |
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| 21:22.35 | nerdrunner | anyone know how to do a harddrive scan in Elive? |
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| 21:27.23 | she_dyed | scan? as in search for a file? |
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| 22:10.35 | Elive_user30_it | hallo |
| 22:10.50 | Elive_user30_it | i'm a new user of alive |
| 22:10.58 | Elive_user30_it | elive |
| 22:11.16 | LinuxNIT | welcome to elive |
| 22:11.27 | Elive_user30_it | thanks |
| 22:11.38 | Elive_user30_it | nice system |
| 22:11.51 | LinuxNIT | we are glad you like it :) |
| 22:12.01 | Elive_user30_it | but i'm new also with linux |
| 22:12.16 | LinuxNIT | well welcome to linux as well :) |
| 22:12.28 | Elive_user30_it | so I've got problems with the network printer |
| 22:13.13 | Elive_user30_it | i can see it but it doesn't work |
| 22:13.14 | LinuxNIT | explain |
| 22:13.46 | Elive_user30_it | i have a LAn disk with printer server... |
| 22:14.03 | Elive_user30_it | it has connected 1 deskjet 3500 |
| 22:14.24 | Elive_user30_it | the lan disk is connectetd to a windwos network |
| 22:15.01 | Elive_user30_it | and mu laptop with elive can see the nework an the printer with samba |
| 22:15.18 | Elive_user30_it | bui it doesn't work :-( |
| 22:15.53 | Elive_user30_it | any suggest? |
| 22:16.08 | LinuxNIT | what did you use to setup the printer |
| 22:16.12 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 22:16.23 | Elive_user30_it | elpanel |
| 22:17.04 | LinuxNIT | open terminal: su: system-config-printer |
| 22:17.18 | keyra | LinuxNIT: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 22:17.52 | Elive_user30_it | i did, and now |
| 22:17.55 | Elive_user30_it | ? |
| 22:18.11 | LinuxNIT | remove the printer and use that to set it up |
| 22:18.33 | Elive_user30_it | the lan disk use linuk I think |
| 22:18.56 | Elive_user30_it | what Do I have to chise? Samba or other? |
| 22:19.42 | LinuxNIT | how is the printer hooked up? |
| 22:20.22 | Elive_user30_it | it is a usb printer connected tolan disk |
| 22:20.38 | LinuxNIT | what is landisk? |
| 22:21.19 | Elive_user30_it | it and hard disk that I can see trought the network |
| 22:21.37 | Elive_user30_it | I'm trying SAMBA... |
| 22:21.38 | LinuxNIT | like windows file sharing? |
| 22:21.51 | Elive_user30_it | it found the printer but.... |
| 22:22.36 | twiggz | Good evening internets! |
| 22:22.38 | Elive_user30_it | if i press "check" it can't reach it |
| 22:23.36 | Elive_user30_it | in the same way windows condivide resorces, folders, etc |
| 22:23.51 | keyra | Elive_user30_it: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils |
| 22:25.42 | Elive_user30_it | any idea? |
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| 22:30.22 | Elive_user30_it | ? |
| 22:30.36 | LinuxNIT | what do you mean "in the same way windows condivide resources" ? |
| 22:30.40 | LinuxNIT | condivide? |
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| 22:31.28 | Elive_user30_it | ops....it means "share" (an italina work run out my fingers) |
| 22:33.23 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 22:34.20 | LinuxNIT | do you need to provide a username and password to access the print share? |
| 22:34.28 | Elive_user30_it | no |
| 22:34.48 | LinuxNIT | you have printed to it from another computer via the network? |
| 22:35.10 | Elive_user30_it | yes, from windows the printer works |
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| 22:36.51 | LinuxNIT | do you have the button "promt user if authentication is required" checked or the other one? |
| 22:37.49 | Elive_user30_it | i have the button "promt user if authentication is required" checked |
| 22:39.07 | Elive_user30_it | "the shared printer is not accessible" |
| 22:39.28 | LinuxNIT | then i dont know what would be stopping it. |
| 22:39.29 | Elive_user30_it | is the message it writes |
| 22:39.31 | LinuxNIT | im not a big printer guy :-/ |
| 22:40.45 | Elive_user30_it | thank you for you help |
| 22:46.26 | twiggz | I cannot wait for the elive based on debian testing. |
| 22:47.04 | DronAn | it shrink |
| 22:47.12 | twiggz | ? |
| 22:47.36 | Elive_user30_it | what about the new things? |
| 22:47.44 | twiggz | plenty of successful distros use testing as a base...parsix for one... |
| 22:48.00 | DronAn | Show me one? |
| 22:48.07 | twiggz | parsix |
| 22:48.07 | DronAn | Ubuntu? |
| 22:48.33 | DronAn | never try parsix |
| 22:48.49 | DronAn | *never tried |
| 22:49.10 | twiggz | Hell, sidux is of course based on problem prone sid (unstable) and lots of folks use that...lol |
| 22:49.37 | twiggz | stable is just ancient stuff, and there arent enough backports in the world to fix that.. |
| 22:52.07 | DronAn | Elive_user30_it, Have you setup printer? |
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| 22:52.17 | Elive_user30_it | no |
| 22:53.02 | DronAn | No |
| 22:53.07 | Elive_user30_it | i think the problem is the landisk is under linux and it share printer for windows |
| 22:53.15 | DronAn | I mean after you found it in NET |
| 22:53.24 | DronAn | it ask you to setup it |
| 22:53.44 | DronAn | It no matter |
| 22:53.50 | DronAn | It is Samba |
| 22:53.50 | Elive_user30_it | it says "printer is not accessible" |
| 22:54.45 | DronAn | oO |
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| 22:55.03 | Elive_user30_it | ?? |
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| 23:21.26 | Elive_user84_en | kl;kl;l |
| 23:21.42 | Elive_user84_en | hello |
| 23:22.04 | betrayd | hello there |
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| 23:32.37 | twiggz | Hi |
| 23:32.54 | betrayd | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.27 | twiggz | IRC kind of sucks huh |
| 23:33.41 | keyra | twiggz: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 23:33.44 | betrayd | it has its pluses |
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| 23:35.34 | twiggz | I swear, next to freebsd, I love debian testing. |
| 23:36.08 | she_dyed | werent you going to do it for elive :) |
| 23:36.09 | twiggz | As soon as freebsd starts supporting more usb gadgets and damn adobe flash....to hell with linux. |
| 23:36.30 | twiggz | she_dyed: it was suggested to me...lol. I never agreed :P |
| 23:36.36 | twiggz | I did try a dist-upgrade |
| 23:36.43 | twiggz | it went over like a fart in a space suit |
| 23:36.44 | twiggz | :P |
| 23:36.50 | keyra | twiggz: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 23:37.28 | twiggz | Thats elives major problem...you cant just use aptitude or apt-get to upgrade it reliably... |
| 23:37.38 | twiggz | something should be done about that. |
| 23:37.41 | she_dyed | agreed |
| 23:37.42 | keyra | twiggz: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 23:37.54 | twiggz | i hate that fucking bot. |
| 23:38.00 | she_dyed | put on ignore |
| 23:38.34 | twiggz | dreamlinux is debian based..they have something like dream-update or something.. |
| 23:38.41 | twiggz | it works well.. |
| 23:39.02 | twiggz | I dont use it though, I just like their default icon set. |
| 23:39.05 | twiggz | lol |
| 23:39.09 | she_dyed | if heh |
| 23:39.38 | she_dyed | not the fat round penguins with guns and ammo |
| 23:40.07 | she_dyed | i've ditched color icons long ago |
| 23:40.13 | she_dyed | only 2 left |
| 23:40.29 | she_dyed | now its text but the text is like mirrod on a black surface |
| 23:41.43 | she_dyed | if its not that then i put the IcedSys icon set from Steven Smith |
| 23:41.49 | she_dyed | all silver |
| 23:43.10 | twiggz | Ive pretty much ditched desktop environments lol |
| 23:43.17 | twiggz | openbox with selected apps here.. |
| 23:43.19 | twiggz | lol |
| 23:43.29 | she_dyed | and then what tiling? |
| 23:43.39 | she_dyed | isnt that where we're all headed |
| 23:43.42 | twiggz | I dont really use tiling ... |
| 23:44.16 | twiggz | Im perfectly happy with a terminal popping up where openbox tells it to by default.. |
| 23:44.20 | twiggz | lol |
| 23:44.24 | twiggz | same with all other apps.. |
| 23:44.30 | keyra | twiggz: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 23:44.31 | she_dyed | the only random thing? |
| 23:44.34 | she_dyed | heh |
| 23:44.44 | twiggz | pretty much |
| 23:44.52 | she_dyed | yup if it works |
| 23:44.59 | she_dyed | tell me you got duals or a widescreen |
| 23:45.14 | twiggz | nope, just a plain 17" dell crt |
| 23:45.24 | twiggz | i dislike lcds.. |
| 23:45.37 | she_dyed | you're gaming |
| 23:45.40 | she_dyed | no? |
| 23:45.45 | twiggz | they for the most part look like shit unless you want to spend obscene amounts of money... |
| 23:46.00 | twiggz | i play alien arena occasionally...just single player |
| 23:46.03 | twiggz | thats all |
| 23:46.18 | she_dyed | i m stuck on classic quake |
| 23:46.22 | she_dyed | against bots |
| 23:46.42 | she_dyed | 3 on 3 in one map and thats it |
| 23:46.45 | twiggz | I can get a monitor like this for 30 bucks...and its color is much better than an lcd I bought new for like 300 bucks.... |
| 23:46.48 | twiggz | lol |
| 23:46.53 | twiggz | to hell with lcd widescreens |
| 23:47.06 | she_dyed | so you have been there done that |
| 23:47.12 | twiggz | yep |
| 23:47.14 | she_dyed | maybe dont that |
| 23:47.27 | twiggz | sure its nice having wide space....but it looks like crap |
| 23:47.40 | twiggz | lcd vs crt color....crt wins... |
| 23:47.46 | twiggz | in every one of my experiences |
| 23:47.59 | twiggz | of course i cant go spend 600 or 800 bucks on a monitor.... |
| 23:48.06 | twiggz | then maybe it would look better :P |
| 23:48.09 | twiggz | as advertised |
| 23:49.10 | twiggz | I could buy 10 of these monitors for one cheap lcd. |
| 23:49.15 | twiggz | its not worth it. |
| 23:49.54 | she_dyed | got a 21 inch crt from office, played on it till it died |
| 23:51.03 | twiggz | I buy used monitors..I like these dell crt monitors...they are hardcore..they just dont die. Ive had two lcds die during the time Ive owned this one dell crt Im using now. |
| 23:51.11 | twiggz | Definately not worth 300 bucks. |
| 23:52.56 | twiggz | So the lcds die...and I get like 10 bucks apeice for the dead ones at a shop down the block... |
| 23:53.06 | she_dyed | pffft |
| 23:53.07 | twiggz | not a very lucrative return on them. |