IRC log for #elive on 20091019

00:06.10she_dyedbbs, dinner
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00:50.21MetaPhazeHello to everyone!
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05:27.42wasynyt_eeegood morning people
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07:14.36Dallixdoes elive dual boot with windows 7 OK?
07:15.29Dallixor do I have to set things up manualy?
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09:33.03GhooostDallix, it's ok
09:33.07Ghooostjust install windows 7
09:33.08Ghooostthan elive
09:33.14Ghooostand you will have a selection menu on boot
09:33.37Ghooostghost Thybo
09:34.14Thybo:)
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09:44.08Dallixthank you
09:44.20Dallixit only took 2 hours ;)
09:47.02Dallixdoes elive for macs suppport ppc?
09:47.18Dallixor is it just a remix for x86?
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10:31.27AlexAnteMachinahi
10:31.43she_dyedhey AlexAnteMachina o/
10:31.49AlexAnteMachinahey she_dyed
10:31.55she_dyedhow are ya
10:31.58AlexAnteMachinawassup?
10:32.10she_dyednm just had first cup o the day
10:32.16she_dyedu?
10:32.23AlexAnteMachinajust getting mine.
10:32.24AlexAnteMachina...
10:34.06AlexAnteMachinacoffee!
10:34.11AlexAnteMachinanicenfresh
10:34.12she_dyedw00t
10:34.42AlexAnteMachinawill probably never get used to that expression "w00t"
10:36.04she_dyedsay you scored a goal, what do you yell, you dont say Wow or Whee
10:36.50she_dyedmaybe you yell whoop < thats close enough
10:36.58AlexAnteMachinano.
10:37.09AlexAnteMachinaI'm german
10:37.22she_dyedoh go on, what do you yell out
10:37.30she_dyedam curious
10:37.48AlexAnteMachinaYou know, your w00t is a word that exists in german, too.
10:37.49she_dyedwe also say YES
10:38.19AlexAnteMachinaBut this word has a completely different meaning.
10:38.30she_dyedobscene?
10:38.41AlexAnteMachinaWe write it "Wut" and that means Anger!
10:38.46she_dyedlol
10:39.04she_dyednot angry but anger
10:39.16AlexAnteMachinaThe Anger.
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10:39.27AlexAnteMachinayes.
10:39.32she_dyednow i understand
10:39.40she_dyedwhats the custom yell then
10:39.41AlexAnteMachinathat's why.
10:39.47she_dyedwhen a goal is scored
10:40.18AlexAnteMachina"Toooooooor!!"
10:40.22AlexAnteMachina;)
10:40.40AlexAnteMachinacause Goal = Tor in german.
10:41.23she_dyeddo you also use it anywhere, not just sport?
10:41.29AlexAnteMachinano
10:41.30she_dyedlike as an expression
10:41.35AlexAnteMachinajust sports.
10:41.39she_dyedah ok
10:41.56she_dyedso when something you installed works out of the box on the first try, maybe YES!
10:42.00she_dyedwill do
10:42.23AlexAnteMachinathat fits nicely.
10:42.39she_dyeddid you watch Tarantino's movie?
10:42.49AlexAnteMachinawhich of them?
10:42.52she_dyedBastids? there is a good scene there
10:42.57she_dyedin the restaurant
10:43.10AlexAnteMachinaoh, Inglorious Basterds
10:43.15AlexAnteMachinaNo. Not seen yet.
10:43.31she_dyedwhere they asked Where in GErmany are you from, you have an unusual accent
10:43.37she_dyedi wont spoil it
10:43.41AlexAnteMachinaas far as i know it's remake of a 1970s movie.
10:43.42she_dyedyou have to SEE it
10:44.08she_dyedI've seen the original, no, its now very different
10:44.31AlexAnteMachinaMostly those kind of Jokes loosing very much when translated.
10:44.46she_dyedno, the culture thing
10:44.55AlexAnteMachina???
10:44.58she_dyedis very good, not a joke
10:45.06AlexAnteMachinagot a feeling not getting it.
10:45.11she_dyedits the dangerous situation they were in
10:45.25she_dyedThey were all speaking German,
10:45.34she_dyedand an officer cant place the accent
10:45.41AlexAnteMachinaI know less about that movie. Jst know there are some US guys in Germany.
10:45.42she_dyedso You might enjoy that scene
10:45.47AlexAnteMachinaduring ww2
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10:46.25she_dyedits like the standoff in Reservoir Dogs all of them pointing guns at each other
10:46.43she_dyedso its not a funny scene
10:46.44AlexAnteMachinasurfing silently over to ...
10:46.50AlexAnteMachinaTHE PIRATE BAY!
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10:46.59she_dyedlol nowTHATS funny
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10:47.24DronAn[BY]_eeepcHello
10:47.34she_dyedhey there DronAn[BY]_eeepc
10:49.48AlexAnteMachinapiratebay is quite slow these days.
10:49.52AlexAnteMachinahi DronAn[BY]_eeepc
10:49.58AlexAnteMachinawhat eeepc r u using?
10:50.09DronAn[BY]_eeepc1000H
10:50.17AlexAnteMachinalol
10:50.17DronAn[BY]_eeepcI love it :)
10:50.25AlexAnteMachinaI got a 1000H Go
10:50.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcWhat is Go?
10:50.38she_dyedthe same?
10:50.38AlexAnteMachinawhat color is yours?
10:50.45DronAn[BY]_eeepcBlack
10:51.05AlexAnteMachinathat "go" indicates it's got a built-in G3 device.
10:51.05DronAn[BY]_eeepcshe_dyed, I think it the same
10:51.12DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
10:51.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcWow
10:51.24DronAn[BY]_eeepc3G?
10:51.35AlexAnteMachinajust put in a sim-card and your on the GO!
10:51.37AlexAnteMachinayo.
10:51.39AlexAnteMachina3g
10:51.45DronAn[BY]_eeepcOk
10:52.03DronAn[BY]_eeepcI'm no bother by this thing :)
10:52.12AlexAnteMachinathat's wy it was little more expensive than the normal model.
10:52.20DronAn[BY]_eeepcOk
10:52.36DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut how much expensiv it was?
10:52.40AlexAnteMachinabought it about half a year ago ...
10:52.49AlexAnteMachina500,-Euro.
10:52.57DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
10:53.23DronAn[BY]_eeepcI bought my about half year too
10:53.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcit cost me $420 (USD)
10:54.06AlexAnteMachinawow!
10:54.21DronAn[BY]_eeepcHere is chiper
10:54.25AlexAnteMachinaor, saying it in she_dyed's words: w00t!
10:54.43DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
10:54.45she_dyedyou dont cheer that
10:54.50she_dyedyou go :(
10:54.52AlexAnteMachinawhy not?
10:55.12she_dyedits 420
10:55.16AlexAnteMachinahe's saved lots of money!
10:55.27AlexAnteMachinathat fucking rocks!
10:55.30she_dyedoh compared to Euro
10:55.47DronAn[BY]_eeepcYes
10:55.52she_dyedw00t
10:56.02DronAn[BY]_eeepc420*1.45
10:56.26DronAn[BY]_eeepc609
10:56.31DronAn[BY]_eeepc$USD
10:56.46she_dyedto Euro
10:56.53she_dyeddang a LOT
10:57.20she_dyednow compare the 3G one
10:57.31DronAn[BY]_eeepcoups
10:57.32she_dyedif you want to
10:57.34DronAn[BY]_eeepcsorry
10:57.47AlexAnteMachinalol... DronAn[BY]_eeepc bought his device for 420 DOLLAR!
10:58.01DronAn[BY]_eeepcYes
10:58.05AlexAnteMachinathat's just 280 Euro!!!
10:58.20DronAn[BY]_eeepcAlexAnteMachina, have you upgrade by new tool?
10:58.39AlexAnteMachinano.
10:58.50AlexAnteMachinasomethings wrong with the graphix-driver.
10:59.34AlexAnteMachinawhen booting in upgrade-mode and reaching the enlightenment-desktop it's getting dark.
10:59.36DronAn[BY]_eeepcsee the newone from 420
10:59.37AlexAnteMachinaNo shit.
10:59.38DronAn[BY]_eeepchttp://catalog.onliner.by/asus/asuseee1005ha2/
11:00.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcAlexAnteMachina, oU
11:00.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcsounds bad
11:00.14AlexAnteMachinaand when opening a console-window and moving it around I can use it as a flashlight...
11:00.24DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt was good for me (upgrading)
11:00.27AlexAnteMachinaHard to describe. I'd make a video of that.
11:01.05AlexAnteMachinawow.
11:01.06twiggzgood morning internets
11:01.31AlexAnteMachinaDronAn[BY]_eeepc, is it possible having that device with qwertz-layout?
11:01.33DronAn[BY]_eeepctwiggz, hello
11:01.56DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is qwertz
11:02.04AlexAnteMachinahuh? it already is??
11:02.11AlexAnteMachinawhy that?
11:02.16DronAn[BY]_eeepcIf russians want Russian on keybord
11:02.34AlexAnteMachinathen ..?
11:02.39DronAn[BY]_eeepcthey go and bay stickers
11:02.44DronAn[BY]_eeepc))
11:02.45AlexAnteMachinaoh.
11:03.01DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt come from poland mostly
11:03.11DronAn[BY]_eeepcat that chip price
11:03.31AlexAnteMachinaholy crap! I guess next time I buy a computer I'll send you the money for buying me one.
11:03.44DronAn[BY]_eeepc))
11:04.10DronAn[BY]_eeepcBetter go in poland for weekend and buy it there
11:04.14AlexAnteMachinahttp://catalog.onliner.by/asus/asuseee1000hgo/
11:04.48AlexAnteMachinabut mine's white.
11:05.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcYes. I see now
11:05.16DronAn[BY]_eeepcI saw you eeepc
11:05.19DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
11:05.32AlexAnteMachinaon flickr.
11:05.48DronAn[BY]_eeepcAlexAnteMachina, and better ask Wizard about chip computers
11:06.09DronAn[BY]_eeepcIn poland they realy chiper
11:06.21AlexAnteMachinaoh, cheap.
11:06.25AlexAnteMachina*gg*
11:06.27DronAn[BY]_eeepc)cheap
11:06.43AlexAnteMachinayo. I will!
11:10.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcI was on a trip few weeks ago. I have take my eecpc, it've 6cell batery
11:10.50DronAn[BY]_eeepcSo it was working about 7 hour
11:11.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcI was in shock i bit
11:11.10DronAn[BY]_eeepc*a bit
11:11.18she_dyedwhy, that long?
11:11.20she_dyedlol
11:11.48DronAn[BY]_eeepcI wath a video
11:12.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcserf internet a bit
11:12.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcbecause
11:12.21DronAn[BY]_eeepcbefore a took it with me
11:12.46she_dyedso you think it would have gone much longer?
11:12.49DronAn[BY]_eeepci turnoff all things in bios )
11:13.05DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt can i think
11:13.24DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut on linux
11:13.26DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive
11:13.50DronAn[BY]_eeepcI ve not did it with M$
11:14.16AlexAnteMachinaDronAn[BY]_eeepc, this is perfect for you:
11:14.18AlexAnteMachinahttp://cgi.ebay.de/13500mAh-Akku-Asus-Eee-PC-901-904HD-1000-1000H-Laptop_W0QQitemZ370272926064QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Technik_Computerzubeh36r_Notebook_Akkus?hash=item5635fc7970
11:17.11AlexAnteMachinaDronAn[BY]_eeepc, this should run your eeepc about 14 hours!
11:17.44DronAn[BY]_eeepcWow
11:17.58DronAn[BY]_eeepcI not need that long
11:18.29she_dyedyeah otherwise soemthing serious is going on
11:18.40she_dyedah 14hour flight!
11:19.06she_dyedto Argentina
11:19.15she_dyed'I wanted to test my eeePC'
11:20.49AlexAnteMachinaI just read some reviews about it.
11:21.08AlexAnteMachina6 to 10 hours is what it really runs.
11:21.29AlexAnteMachinawithout wifi it runs about 10h.
11:22.16AlexAnteMachinabut I'm sure it will run longer on linux.
11:23.16AlexAnteMachinawhen running my eeepc in winXP its using up more energy as if I'm using elive.
11:23.26DronAn[BY]_eeepcWithout Wi-Fi,Blueth. USB's
11:23.48DronAn[BY]_eeepcCamera
11:23.51DronAn[BY]_eeepclan
11:24.06DronAn[BY]_eeepci did turn off all this staf
11:24.09she_dyed'in backpack mode'
11:24.12DronAn[BY]_eeepcstuff
11:24.16DronAn[BY]_eeepc))
11:24.17AlexAnteMachinaDronAn[BY]_eeepc, simply DONT EVEN TURN IT ON! Then it will last forever!!!
11:24.18DronAn[BY]_eeepcNo
11:24.26DronAn[BY]_eeepcWathing video
11:24.47DronAn[BY]_eeepcI was in train
11:24.48she_dyedthats good
11:24.59she_dyedtypical leisurely use
11:25.17AlexAnteMachinaUsing Netbooks means killing it slowly.
11:25.19she_dyedvideo from hdd or streaming?
11:25.35AlexAnteMachinaSo best thing to do: Never ever unpack it!
11:26.13she_dyedthe instant on and battery life beats notebooks hands down imho
11:26.14DronAn[BY]_eeepcThen, at the and of trip i connect to internet by the USB cable to phine
11:26.20DronAn[BY]_eeepc*phone
11:26.37AlexAnteMachinausing a ssd instad of a hdd should save some extra electricity.
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11:37.38AlexAnteMachinaAnybody ever used a usb-GPS device?
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11:41.31AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, ?
11:41.33AlexAnteMachinaDronAn[BY]_eeepc, ?
11:41.40DronAn[BY]_eeepcNO
11:41.45DronAn[BY]_eeepcNo, sorry
11:43.11AlexAnteMachinaI'd love using eeepc as a navigation system.
11:43.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcDo you have GPS?
11:43.42DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
11:44.03AlexAnteMachinanot built in.
11:44.17AlexAnteMachinabut i got a gps device.
11:44.57she_dyedwhich has a display
11:45.01AlexAnteMachinano
11:45.21AlexAnteMachinajust a usb-plug.
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11:46.10Wizzirhi
11:46.13AlexAnteMachinahi
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11:46.20WizzirAlexAnteMachina: which elive is the latest?
11:46.30AlexAnteMachina1.9.50
11:46.31Wizzircompiz or devel?
11:46.58AlexAnteMachinadont use compiz yet.
11:47.03AlexAnteMachinaits just toooooo unstable.
11:47.34Wizzirk
11:47.53she_dyeddo you have the same hardware as Wizzir?
11:48.04AlexAnteMachinayou know, it's not using the real compiz, but a hack called Ecomorph.
11:48.12Wizziryeah
11:48.19she_dyedhe might get a better experience. Unstable but usable
11:48.40Wizzirshe_dyed: not an option, i use that pc at work
11:48.44Wizzirso it has to work
11:48.57Wizzirand ubuntu is not what i want
11:49.07she_dyedthen i would agree with AlexAnteMachina on this
11:49.29AlexAnteMachinaholy shit! What an honor!
11:49.35she_dyedmandriva, or suse if you are familiar with RPM based distros
11:58.10ThyboDallix, i'm not sure ppc support is included
11:58.19Thybou have to check that out with debian support directly
12:00.57she_dyedanyday now we get 2.0, will it still be called Gem?
12:02.20AlexAnteMachinano
12:02.28AlexAnteMachinalol... Gem 2.0?
12:02.29DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, ping
12:02.34AlexAnteMachinano
12:03.14AlexAnteMachinaMercury is what Thana was thinking about.
12:09.52Wizzirhmm
12:10.02Wizzirlike this liquid metal?
12:11.01Wizzirwtf is installation module? :P
12:12.19ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, pong
12:14.50Wizzirelive_installer_key_091019051342530928463_15597.cod: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 2
12:14.52Wizziro_O
12:15.02Wizzirwhat the fuck?
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12:19.28WizzirAlexAnteMachina: do you know what is this installer module?
12:19.38AlexAnteMachinayes
12:19.40Wizzirseems it's an videocd image
12:19.45AlexAnteMachinano
12:20.11Wizzirmay I install elive without it?
12:20.21AlexAnteMachinano
12:20.34AlexAnteMachinajust obtain it when asked.
12:20.58Wizzircool, but.. if i don't have working internet connection it won't allow me to install it
12:21.08Wizzir:o
12:21.46AlexAnteMachinain that case you need to dl that module seperately and "insert" it when asked.
12:24.40Wizzirhmm, i can't find it in elive installer scripts
12:24.54Wizzirso quick hack won't work :P
12:25.33Wizzircheck-installer-module is an elf binary ;/
12:25.53Wizzirnah.. such things make me mad
12:26.34DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizzir, hmm. It always very easy to install elive
12:26.53AlexAnteMachinadont understand Wizzir being so upset.
12:26.59AlexAnteMachinajust get that module.
12:27.28DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizzir, it is for free
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13:04.31Elive_user14_eshi
13:04.47she_dyedhi there
13:04.55Elive_user14_eshi she :)
13:05.21she_dyedare you that guy needs the himem
13:05.31Elive_user14_esyeeessss :))))
13:05.39she_dyedThanatermesis: ping
13:05.52she_dyedhe was here a few minutes ago
13:06.01Elive_user14_esok , i wait
13:06.04Elive_user14_esthks :)))
13:06.55she_dyedyou know, dont hesitate to post in the forum as well
13:07.11she_dyedbecause he gets an email alert when something new is there
13:08.17Elive_user14_esok
13:08.48Thanatermesishides from she_dyed
13:09.14she_dyedtoo late man, I sold you out
13:09.29Elive_user14_es:)))))
13:09.32DronAn[BY]_eeepc)))
13:09.34Elive_user14_eshi Thanatermesis
13:09.55she_dyedanyway Elive_user14_es is not from the police
13:10.26Elive_user14_essure??
13:10.35DronAn[BY]_eeepcHe is from KGB
13:10.37DronAn[BY]_eeepc)
13:10.44Elive_user14_esFSBç
13:10.44she_dyedpats down Elive_user14_es for weapons
13:11.32DronAn[BY]_eeepc))
13:11.36Thanatermesishides even more
13:12.02she_dyedJust dont let him go to the restroom.
13:12.35she_dyedYes, we've seen the Godfather.
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13:13.27AlexAnteMachinahey Thanatermesis !
13:15.04Thanatermesishi AlexAnteMachina
13:15.07Thanatermesiswell, what's the problem ?
13:15.20Thanatermesisthinks that has sufficient problems already :)
13:15.32she_dyedElive_user14_es: ball is in your court
13:15.43Elive_user14_esthks
13:15.49AlexAnteMachinaWhat problem are you talking about, Thanatermesis ?
13:16.22Elive_user14_esThanatermesis, what kernel install for more of 4GB of ram??
13:16.30Elive_user14_esthe higmenmem normal o the core2 highmem?
13:16.38keyraElive_user14_es: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
13:16.47Elive_user14_esyes , i know
13:16.57Elive_user14_esbut ican various posibilities
13:17.03ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, distrowatch doesn't announce the versions of Elive, this is a big problem
13:17.18Elive_user14_esmy cpu is core2
13:17.27ThanatermesisElive_user14_es, it is explained on the selector window
13:17.32AlexAnteMachinaaha.
13:17.42AlexAnteMachinaand why does distrowatch act like that?
13:17.48ThanatermesisElive_user14_es, it says that the core2 kernel is the same but for core2 machines
13:17.50Elive_user14_esin synaptic i can see acerhk module..... elive core2 hisgmem
13:17.55ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, good question :) ask him
13:18.04Elive_user14_es1.9.50
13:18.09ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, he dont like Elive aparently
13:18.18AlexAnteMachinawhy that?
13:18.23Elive_user14_eswhat??????????
13:18.45Elive_user14_esilike very much elive
13:18.53AlexAnteMachinaWell, I guess this guy is kind of ... dont know the right word in english here... snobby? Nosy?
13:19.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive_user14_es, not you :)
13:19.05ThanatermesisElive_user14_es, so send an email to distrowatch asking why dont publish Elive announcements
13:19.18AlexAnteMachinaElive_user14_es, we are talking about the guy running distrowatch.
13:19.34ThanatermesisElive_user14_es, yes, if you have a core2 machine use the core2 duo kernel better
13:19.45Elive_user14_esok
13:19.49Elive_user14_esthnks
13:19.59Elive_user14_esdon't disturb more
13:20.02Elive_user14_esbye
13:20.20ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, not matters that this guy is, hte problem is that is the main source of traffic to the Elive website, if distrowatch doesn't publish annoucements of elive, then Elive dies
13:20.44DronAn[BY]_eeepc:(
13:22.41AlexAnteMachinano, it will not.
13:23.03Thanatermesisyou think so ?
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13:23.07DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, we have not do flashmob
13:23.07AlexAnteMachinayes.
13:23.18AlexAnteMachinawhat?
13:23.22AlexAnteMachinaflashmob?
13:23.35DronAn[BY]_eeepcSpamming :)
13:24.04AlexAnteMachinaholy crap!
13:24.06AlexAnteMachinaNO!
13:24.26DronAn[BY]_eeepcAlexAnteMachina, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mob
13:24.37ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, so explain me how you think that Elive will survive, that is living from donations, that actually these donations are in a level that is not more than *just* maintain it... and that Elive lost the 90 % of the traffic (so, new users, new donations, etc)
13:25.26AlexAnteMachinawe need to make it better known to people.
13:25.37AlexAnteMachinaBy using other media than just distrowatch.
13:25.53ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, this pillow fight sounds fun! :)
13:27.05ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, well, you have the statistics of the Elive website at http://stats.elivecd.org  if you want to try to get trafffic than from distrowatch
13:27.12DronAn[BY]_eeepcWe have to talk to Distr..
13:28.06AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, that stats.elivecd.org is asking for a user/pass
13:29.26wasynyt_eeegood afternoon people
13:30.03AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt_eee
13:30.19ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, yes, i give you it in private, so apt publish the logs of this channel on internet... you* are welcome to see that statistics of Elive but i dont want them totally publically :) lol
13:30.43Thanatermesiskeyra, spank apt hard
13:30.55she_dyedbotmatch!
13:30.57keyraThanatermesis: with a black mask and a whip ? =)
13:31.06wasynyt_eee:P
13:33.25AlexAnteMachinawell, Thanatermesis looks like elivecd.org has about 1000 visitors/day
13:34.51ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, do you see the big jump in the first widget graph ?
13:35.04AlexAnteMachinayes.
13:35.05DammitJimwhat jump?
13:35.21AlexAnteMachinayou cant see it, DammitJim
13:35.50DammitJimwhat are you guys talking about?
13:36.09she_dyedthe elive website stats
13:36.12AlexAnteMachinawebsite visitors
13:36.20ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, so, this jump is a release of elive... that distrowatch has announced too
13:36.28AlexAnteMachinaah!
13:36.33ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, after this jump, there's other 2 releases of elive, WITHOUT the announcement on distrowatch
13:36.39Thanatermesiswe can't even recognize them
13:36.44she_dyedThanatermesis: maybe the guy is partial to release candidates and betas/alphas
13:37.40Thanatermesisshe_dyed, no, that's not the case
13:37.48Thanatermesishe's just ignoring Elive aparently
13:38.06she_dyedman and I thought it was a panel or a team working distrowatch
13:38.17Thanatermesisshe_dyed, how we can think that distrowatch is a reliable website about distributions announcements, if ignore the distributions because he just dont like them ?
13:38.24Thanatermesiswell, maybe with a minor distribution...
13:38.28Thanatermesisbut Elive is rank 25 !
13:38.38Thanatermesisis an important distribution on his list
13:39.41she_dyedhe must think these are patches or incrementals that in his view arent 'releases'
13:39.52Thanatermesisno
13:39.58Thanatermesisis not the case
13:40.19wasynyt_eeeusually everything goes thru
13:40.37she_dyedhow would he find out though, do we contact him/email him the announcement?
13:41.07wasynyt_eeei think that you need to email the announcement
13:41.57she_dyedand from a trusted source
13:42.47wasynyt_eeeusually from the maintainer or leader of the project
13:43.20she_dyedhow would he be notified otherwise
13:44.26AlexAnteMachina's Dagger of Doom will show him!
13:44.33AlexAnteMachina;=)
13:45.02she_dyedheh
13:45.36wasynyt_eeehe wont.. if someone wants theyre release put on that site, one must send a email witch has a short text telling what this release is all about, a link to releasenotes and a link to a place where you can go and grab the release
13:46.10Thanatermesis<she_dyed> how would he find out though, do we contact him/email him the announcement?
13:46.18Thanatermesishe watches all the time the RSS feeds of all the websites
13:46.23Thanatermesishe's noticed when there's a news
13:46.29Thanatermesishe's also in the infomail list
13:46.43keyraThanatermesis: You can suscribe to our Newsletter about stable/development releases and related Stuff here: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/infomail/
13:47.11she_dyedso iow he's wired to these feeds
13:47.12wasynyt_eeemaybe you should contact him if he has missed something
13:50.12Thanatermesisshe_dyed, wasynyt, he just don't like elive, that's all
13:50.26Thanatermesisshe_dyed, wasynyt, DronAn[BY]_eeepc   http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2007/07/07/shame-on-you-distrowatch/
13:50.31AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, have you asked him for posting those news about elive?
13:51.14ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, read that article
13:51.24AlexAnteMachinaI read it yesterdy.
13:51.41AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, have you asked him for posting those news about elive?
13:53.51ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, do you think that is needed ? is the website about the news of all the distributions
13:54.23ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, maybe i should do that, say him directly that i allow you to post news of Elive
13:55.59DronAn[BY]_eeepcYes
13:56.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcExactly
13:56.07DronAn[BY]_eeepcDo it
13:56.16DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut gently :)
13:56.22Thanatermesisok, let's see what he reply
13:56.26Thanatermesisim gently
13:57.06she_dyedThanatermesis: maybe this approach
13:57.29Thanatermesiswell, like i say, we will see what he reply :)
13:57.32she_dyedforget the thing (from the stories you gave me) happened and lets see what he does
13:57.48Thanatermesisshe_dyed, i have never got any problem, all the problems was caused by hjim
13:58.06she_dyedok understood
13:58.16Thanatermesisand i have always tried to be correct and polite, so WTF
13:59.43ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, PV
14:03.43AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, now that you're using the installer-module he can host elive-*.iso as many as he wants.
14:04.44ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, im pretty ignoring him since very long time ago... but like i say, is the main traffic to the Elive website
14:05.42AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, but dont write that!
14:06.34Thanatermesisdont worry, i will just write a polite email saying to he can announce the development versions etc
14:07.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcYes
14:09.45AlexAnteMachinathat's a good idea.
14:09.46AlexAnteMachina:)
14:11.34AlexAnteMachinagtg
14:14.37ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc pv
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14:21.35DammitJim1.9.50????
14:22.28DammitJimThanatermesis, what version is the current stable?
14:22.40Thanatermesisgem
14:23.00DammitJimLinux mach 2.6.18-elive #2 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 6 00:41:56 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
14:28.39Thanatermesisshe_dyed, ping!
14:29.16she_dyedhere man
14:30.41she_dyedThanatermesis: pong
14:30.58DronAn[BY]_eeepcshe_dyed, pv may be
14:31.10Thanatermesisshe_dyed, can you 3g4o8b6b7y0 ? DronAn[BY]_eeepc maybe you too if you have 3g4o8b6b7y0 there
14:31.18Thanatermesisto: home.thanatermesis.org
14:32.50she_dyedi'm in
14:33.24DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt Works?
14:33.27DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
14:33.34she_dyednot at the email yet
14:34.02DronAn[BY]_eeepcFollow by link
14:34.15DronAn[BY]_eeepci see It Works! :)
14:37.59she_dyed<she_dyed> who is andrew, distrowatch guy?
14:38.11DronAn[BY]_eeepcMe
14:38.59DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, what is gobby?
14:39.13keyraDronAn[BY]_eeepc: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's
14:39.28Thanatermesisa collaborative editor
14:39.35Thanatermesisso, multiple users editing the same file in realtime
14:39.36DronAn[BY]_eeepcwow
14:39.41Thanatermesisyes, very nice :)
14:39.41she_dyedlike a whiteboard app
14:39.51Thanatermesisif you are in elive, apt-get install 3g4o8b6b7y0 and try it connecting to home.thanatermesis.org ;)
14:40.05Thanatermesis(without the colors)
14:44.13she_dyedThana the second paragraph, are you saying
14:44.30she_dyedthe next stable is free
14:45.25Thanatermesisno charge for the download
14:45.29she_dyedok
14:45.30Thanatermesisthat aparently is his problem
14:46.05she_dyedwe'll 'fake' amnesia and pretend he is NOT shortsighted
14:46.15she_dyedsorry narrowminded
14:46.36she_dyeda true journalist shouldnt have that problem
14:46.53Thanatermesissend him an email saying that :)
14:46.54Thanatermesishehe
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14:59.11Thanatermesisshe_dyed, what about that "thanks a lot" part ?
15:07.26WizardThanatermesis: ping
15:08.15ThanatermesisWizard, pong
15:08.42Wizardhello
15:08.48Thanatermesishello :)
15:09.08Wizardi wanted to install elive in virtualbox at work and found new feature
15:09.18Wizard'installer module'
15:09.22Wizardwhat is it for? :P
15:09.30she_dyedThanatermesis: it is nice ,when you really mean, THanks a lot you moron!
15:09.47DronAn[BY]_eeepcIs it?
15:10.24she_dyedTO say 'Thanks a lot for your support' might sound sarcastic
15:10.29DronAn[BY]_eeepcTanks so much?
15:10.49DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut if it real help?
15:10.59she_dyedso the shorter Thanks a lot is better
15:11.06she_dyedcasual at the same time
15:11.13DronAn[BY]_eeepcKhm
15:11.21DronAn[BY]_eeepcstrange :)
15:11.22she_dyedas if, with a wave, to THana it was nothing
15:11.48Thanatermesisshe_dyed, i say that because there was a "old fight" with him and me in the past
15:11.55she_dyedi know
15:12.05she_dyedThanks so much would be out of place
15:12.13Thanatermesisso that he has published the stable versions on the site, while i was trying to remove them fro mteh mirrors lol
15:12.23Thanatermesisright
15:12.30Thanatermesisshe_dyed, what about "Have a nice day" ?
15:12.40she_dyednot necessary
15:12.57she_dyedface to face yeah
15:14.15Wizarddamn, i locked my cat in the bathroom.. again..
15:15.12she_dyedbut in email, the thank you is the 'closer' as in closing the deal
15:16.27she_dyedWizard: the tiles, our pet caught pneumonia from sleeping on the tiles
15:16.39she_dyedgot carpet of any kind in the bathrooM?
15:16.50Wizardnope..
15:17.06she_dyedwas the cat locked in there for a while?
15:17.26DronAn[BY]_eeepcput some gas over there
15:17.26Wizardyeah.. i was there to wash my hands, she slipped in (like allways) :P
15:17.31Thanatermesisshe_dyed, so just "Thank you"... ok
15:18.03she_dyedmore businesslike
15:18.06she_dyedyes
15:18.18she_dyedin this scenario its appropriate
15:18.22Thanatermesisok
15:18.47she_dyedso now you're tossing the ball in his court
15:19.23Thanatermesissent :)
15:19.55she_dyedNOW the response would be interesting.
15:20.01Thanatermesisyes
15:20.43she_dyedYour email states all the facts from the OSnews guy
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15:21.10she_dyedYou are giving distro guy an opportunity to DENY
15:21.15she_dyedhe ever did those things
15:21.59she_dyedjust like he did in the columns. He can slip and confirm he did those, and apologize
15:22.08she_dyedif he were a gentleman
15:22.26she_dyedOr he can ignore them.
15:22.49Thanatermesiswell... if he really gives an importance to his website (distrowatch), he should not ignore Elive
15:22.56Thanatermesismaybe if Elive was a unknown distribution...
15:23.05Thanatermesisbut is a very common and used distribution around the world
15:23.07she_dyednot ignore Elive, ignore the facts in your email
15:23.13Thanatermesisimaginate that he ignores ubuntu, or red-hat !
15:23.20she_dyedi know!
15:23.32Thanatermesisif he ignores red-hat, the ppl will think that distrowatch is NOT a reliable website about distribution news
15:23.38Thanatermesisso... is not my problem if he ignores Elive
15:23.45she_dyednot a news site at all
15:24.39Thanatermesisby other side, Elive is 11 positions upper than red-hat on his ranking, she_dyed
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15:27.54Thanatermesiseven than knoppix, dreamlinux, xubuntu, sidux, slax...
15:31.15Wizardreturns
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15:56.52she_dyedhey there
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16:03.43stancaNo,it doesn't work from ecomorph>windows opacity,and bling with ecomorph can't work together.One or another.
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16:05.17AlexAnteMachinahi all
16:05.49Wizardhi AlexAnteMachina
16:06.00AlexAnteMachinahi
16:06.15AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, did you already write that mail?
16:06.34Thanatermesisyes
16:06.43AlexAnteMachinaw00t!
16:06.50AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, satisfied now?
16:07.17she_dyedthats almost like Anger!
16:07.19she_dyedlol
16:07.26AlexAnteMachinaDamn you, she_dyed
16:07.32she_dyedTOOOR!!
16:07.33AlexAnteMachina:p
16:10.38AlexAnteMachinahey she_dyed seen those kid-on-a-balloon idiots?
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16:11.00she_dyedpublicity stunt
16:11.08she_dyedyeah
16:11.21she_dyedidiots is right
16:12.25she_dyeddid you read the part where they were part of a reality show before
16:12.30she_dyed2 shows i think
16:12.36AlexAnteMachinaabusing a kid for becoming famous.
16:12.39AlexAnteMachinaYes. heard that.
16:12.43AlexAnteMachinaright on tv.
16:13.14she_dyed'What makes these people say that about us'
16:13.30AlexAnteMachinahuh?
16:13.38she_dyedthe dad was saying
16:13.41she_dyedlike
16:13.50she_dyedHow dare they think these things
16:13.54AlexAnteMachinaah.
16:14.27AlexAnteMachinathey just told the facts about them and what they did.
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16:15.01she_dyedand the other newshounds probably asked them the hard questions
16:15.09she_dyedheh
16:15.14she_dyedand boom
16:15.40she_dyedyou know the press is relentless on juicy stuff
16:17.45she_dyedthe latest is they'rebeing charged now
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16:48.59stancaThe libpurple0 2.4.3-lenny2 from 1.9.50 repos is wrong;it must be 2.3.4-lenny4.Because of that you can't install pidgin at all.I got the necessary library from Debian Packages site to install pidgin.
16:49.13keyrastanca: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
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16:49.48stancaYes,but I did my need in this way.
17:06.06wasynyt_eeeThanatermesis, <stanca> The libpurple0 2.4.3-lenny2 from 1.9.50 repos is wrong;it must be 2.3.4-lenny4.Because of that you can't install pidgin at all.I got the necessary library from Debian Packages site to install pidgin.
17:06.20keyrawasynyt_eee: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
17:10.29Thanatermesiswasynyt_eee, i have just installed it on my tests virtualbox machine
17:10.51Thanatermesisinstalls and launchs correctly
17:17.37wasynyt_eeeok
17:17.45wasynyt_eeeit was just some users report
17:17.54wasynyt_eeestanca was the nick
17:18.04wasynyt_eeehe is not here anymore
17:24.05Thanatermesisyes i see
17:24.13Thanatermesiswell, i have just verified it and it works there
17:24.16Thanatermesisi dont know what he has done
17:24.17Thanatermesisor how
17:24.28wasynyt_eeeno idea
17:24.35Thanatermesisspank stanca because has closed xchat
17:25.17wasynyt_eeehe was here 4 minutes, reporting this bug
17:25.31keyrawasynyt_eee: http://bugs.elivecd.org
17:25.33wasynyt_eeewhy are people in such a rush
17:26.35AlexAnteMachinathis guy is pretty impatient.
17:26.44wasynyt_eeeso it seems :S
17:26.55wasynyt_eeegood evening AlexAnteMachina
17:27.06AlexAnteMachinao/ wasynyt_eee
17:28.39wasynyt_eeehow are you doing
17:30.53AlexAnteMachinawell.
17:30.56AlexAnteMachinaim doin well
17:37.51wasynyt_eeegood
17:41.49AlexAnteMachinawasynyt_eee, do you have any Kreator Albums?
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18:26.59DronAn[BY]LinuxNIT, ping
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18:30.17Elive_user17_ruhello
18:30.52Elive_user17_ruis here somebody&
18:30.55Elive_user17_ru?
18:30.57she_dyedhey there
18:31.14Elive_user17_rucool
18:31.22Elive_user17_ruit's work!!!!
18:31.52she_dyedwhich one?
18:32.14Elive_user17_ruxchat
18:32.19she_dyedlol
18:32.36Elive_user17_ru))
18:32.36she_dyedyou installed elive to chat? lol
18:32.44Elive_user17_runo
18:33.07Elive_user17_rui'm trying elive now
18:33.22she_dyedk
18:33.37she_dyedwhich one, did you get compiz version?
18:33.47Elive_user17_runo
18:34.13she_dyedright click or left click on the desktop should get you started
18:34.45Elive_user17_rui have never used irc and now trying it just for fun.
18:35.07she_dyedok to change your name type /nick yourname
18:35.33Elive_user17_rui have booted elive for the 1th time
18:35.48Elive_user17_rulivecd
18:35.52DronAn[BY]Привет
18:35.55DronAn[BY]Что подсказать?
18:36.04Elive_user17_ruопачки
18:36.07AlexAnteMachinaElive_user17_ru, which version are you using?
18:36.09Elive_user17_ruсвои и тут
18:36.12DronAn[BY]Угу
18:36.23Elive_user17_ruкруто
18:36.31DronAn[BY]Так что подсказать?
18:36.42Elive_user17_ruда я как бы просто тэстю elive
18:36.42DronAn[BY]Как бы я один тут русскоговорящий пока
18:36.45DronAn[BY]:)
18:36.48DronAn[BY]О
18:36.49DronAn[BY]к
18:36.54she_dyed<PROTECTED>
18:36.59DronAn[BY]Я юзаю его уже больше года
18:37.03DronAn[BY]Очень хорош
18:37.05Elive_user17_ruну и заодно впервые загрузил irc
18:37.22DronAn[BY]Ясно :)
18:37.34DronAn[BY]Милости просим полюбому в Elive
18:37.42Elive_user17_ruможет это глупый вопрос но в чем суть IRC?
18:37.52Elive_user17_ruпросто чат?
18:38.01DronAn[BY]Ну сама по себе ИРК сильная система
18:38.01DronAn[BY]Да
18:38.03DronAn[BY]просто чат
18:38.15DronAn[BY]Но тут сразу чат на канал разработчика тебя приводит
18:38.24DronAn[BY]Это как поддержка на первых парах
18:38.39DronAn[BY]Ты как про Elive узнал?
18:38.39Elive_user17_ruтак я сейчас на канале разрабов?
18:38.49DronAn[BY]Ну тут есть разработчики
18:38.54DronAn[BY]их всего 2 :(
18:39.03Elive_user17_ruмда...
18:39.05Elive_user17_ruне густо
18:39.09DronAn[BY]Уху
18:39.20DronAn[BY]И тем немение дистр сильный
18:39.37Elive_user17_ruпро элайв узнал когда искал легкий дист на основе дебиан
18:39.43Elive_user17_ru*дистр
18:40.22DronAn[BY]Из убунту изи?
18:40.35Elive_user17_ruдело в том что у меня довольно спецевическое железо
18:40.39Elive_user17_ruнеа
18:40.44DronAn[BY]С сайта ubuntueasy.com
18:40.46DronAn[BY]точнее
18:40.48Elive_user17_ruя уже не помню
18:41.12DronAn[BY]Ну кстати, это единственный дистр который работает без проблем на моем Тошиба
18:41.13DronAn[BY]буке
18:41.23Elive_user17_ruгугл как-то навел, а дальше я имею привычку идти на оффсайт и брать инфу из первых рук
18:41.33Wizardhehe, my inbrain translator allmost supports russian :P
18:41.42DronAn[BY]))
18:41.51Elive_user17_ru))
18:41.57DronAn[BY]I know, you're good
18:42.05Elive_user17_ruyou are MEGAcool!
18:42.15Elive_user17_ru))))
18:42.17DronAn[BY]Он хорошо понимает по русски
18:42.22DronAn[BY]и пишет не плохо
18:42.28Elive_user17_ruмолоток
18:42.38Elive_user17_ruно походу через переводчик?
18:42.40DronAn[BY]Так а ты не устанавливал еще его?
18:42.42DronAn[BY]Та нет
18:42.48DronAn[BY]Он Поляк
18:42.51Elive_user17_ruпока нет
18:42.59Wizardпривет :Р
18:43.06Elive_user17_ruлайв сиди анстэйбл
18:43.07DronAn[BY]Он написал его Мозговой переводчик )
18:43.09Elive_user17_ruпривет
18:43.19DronAn[BY]1.9.50?
18:44.01DronAn[BY]Кстати, там если надо, включена настройка pptp (vpn)
18:44.15DronAn[BY]Просто запусти vpn-setup
18:44.15Elive_user17_ruхз
18:44.19Elive_user17_ruпоследняя версия
18:44.24DronAn[BY]Ну да
18:44.27DronAn[BY]50
18:44.38Elive_user17_ru30.9 - ядро
18:44.47DronAn[BY]Угу
18:44.56Elive_user17_ruвот и думаю стоит ли ставить
18:45.09DronAn[BY]У меня 2 машины
18:45.18DronAn[BY]и на 2х рабочий дистр Elive
18:45.23Elive_user17_ruна ноуте где сейчас запущен лайв сиди стоит девбин и сносить пока его не собираюсь
18:45.27DronAn[BY]На Тошибегавнобуке вот
18:45.33DronAn[BY]и на eeepc 1000
18:45.45Elive_user17_ruа вот скачал для HP 2133
18:45.50DronAn[BY]Ну так рядом поставь
18:45.52DronAn[BY]:)
18:45.58Elive_user17_ruно у него с дебианом особые отношения
18:46.02DronAn[BY]А у тебя дебиан стэйбл?
18:46.04wasynytapt x ru en ?? ??? ????? ???????
18:46.12wasynyt:(
18:46.35Elive_user17_ruизначально был стейбл, но терь половина пакетов из тестинга и антэйбла
18:46.47Elive_user17_ruядро из анстэбла
18:46.55she_dyedyou have the font wasynyt supporting it
18:47.05wasynytyup
18:47.16Elive_user17_ruна моем 2133 большие проблемы с линукс
18:47.32Wizardi even have such keybord layout ;)
18:47.33wasynytwell it was just experiment
18:47.37wasynytWizard, nice
18:47.38Elive_user17_ruи элайв не стал исключение
18:47.38wasynyt:D
18:47.47Wizardto bad i forgot to sign up for russian course this semester :(
18:47.59Wizardbut i will learn russian once
18:48.05Wizardit's really cool language
18:48.16wasynytand it would be quite usefull as well
18:48.28Wizardbesides i barely understand what they are writing about
18:48.32Wizardmainly by guessing
18:48.38wasynytbut i would have to try and learn to understand theyre way of thinking
18:48.44Elive_user17_ruне держит мое разрешение и не держит вай фай
18:48.50Wizard:D
18:48.56wasynytyou can read otherwise than guessing?
18:48.58Elive_user17_ruуже устал компилить модули
18:49.17Elive_user17_ruиз всех дистров все работает норм только в ubuntu
18:49.32Wizardhe just said that he's something and wi-fi does not work :P
18:49.51AlexAnteMachinalol... DronAn left as soon as Ubuntu was mentioned!!!
18:49.58Wizard:)
18:49.59Elive_user17_rumy resolution
18:50.08wasynyt:D
18:50.09AlexAnteMachinalol
18:50.11Wizardnah, that came to my mind
18:50.11Elive_user17_rumy resolution & wlan
18:50.24Wizardbut i thought it's to weird to be resolution
18:50.25Wizard:P
18:51.00Wizardok, see you later :)
18:51.11wasynytsee you later Wizard
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18:54.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcВот блин
18:54.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcинтернет :(
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19:01.10DronAn[BY]http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/livecd/elive
19:02.26wasynytany money coming there to elive?
19:02.35wasynytin form of donations?
19:02.40DronAn[BY]I do not think so
19:03.28DronAn[BY]or
19:03.35DronAn[BY]i don't know :)
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19:03.48wasynythmm.. they say they donate to opensource projects
19:04.19wasynytThanatermesis, <DronAn[BY]> http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/livecd/elive <- has elive received any donations from there?
19:04.34Pacma¬¬
19:04.45wasynytgood evening Pacma
19:04.58PacmaGood night
19:05.42wasynythow has your day been
19:05.47Pacmablew my mind this page
19:06.27PacmaI'm playing sports  bye bye
19:06.39wasynytsee you later
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19:08.12DronAn[BY]O
19:08.14DronAn[BY]o
19:08.25DronAn[BY]Dark[BY],
19:08.27Dark[BY]ага
19:08.27Dark[BY]это я
19:08.30DronAn[BY])
19:08.37DronAn[BY]Прикольно
19:08.40Dark[BY]ты с какого города?
19:08.47DronAn[BY]Гомель
19:08.50DronAn[BY]А ты?
19:08.57Dark[BY]Витебск
19:09.00DronAn[BY]Блин
19:09.09DronAn[BY]Келлин?
19:09.12DronAn[BY])
19:09.51Dark[BY]слушай, пытаюсь пойти по пути наименьшего сопротивления. поставил убунту без иксов. хочу сверху накатить е17. для этого гдм нужен?
19:10.06DronAn[BY]Там своя фигня нужна
19:10.07DronAn[BY]Но
19:10.11DronAn[BY]Это не правильно
19:10.20Dark[BY]почему
19:10.21DronAn[BY]Поищи в инете скрипт
19:10.28DronAn[BY]установки E-17
19:10.30Dark[BY]хм....
19:10.47DronAn[BY]Там есть какие то геморы
19:10.50DronAn[BY]А вообще
19:11.03DronAn[BY]я не думаю что вай фай твой нельзя пофиксить
19:11.09DronAn[BY]И видео
19:11.23DronAn[BY]Что за проблема с вай фаем например?
19:11.26DronAn[BY]ЧТо за чип?
19:11.30Dark[BY]хм, понимаешь ли тут прикольная ситуация
19:11.46DronAn[BY]:)
19:11.49Dark[BY]долго объяснять, щас найду ссылку на линуксфоруме где писал про свою траблу
19:11.55DronAn[BY]Уху
19:12.30DronAn[BY]Кста, есть человечек из Полоцка, тоже юзает Elive
19:12.32DronAn[BY]:)
19:12.48DronAn[BY]Но у него тока мобилкаИнет :)
19:12.49Dark[BY]ты же гриш ты один русскоговорящий
19:12.55Dark[BY]а
19:12.56DronAn[BY]Ну тут да пока
19:13.03DronAn[BY]Он не появляется в чате
19:13.14Dark[BY]я смотрю ты с двух ноутов сидишь?
19:13.18DronAn[BY]Уху
19:14.51DronAn[BY]И кстати, ты бы поставил бы илайв, именно установил бы
19:14.58DronAn[BY]Он же себя тюнит после установки
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19:15.10Dark[BY]http://linuxforum.ru/index.php?showtopic=89194&st=0&p=955110&#entry955110
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19:15.13DronAn[BY]Вполне возможно нормально бы скомпилился
19:15.30Dark[BY]ссылку увидел?
19:15.33DronAn[BY]Потому, что практически нет вопросов с работй дистра
19:15.34DronAn[BY]Да
19:15.37DronAn[BY]сейчас гляну
19:16.35DronAn[BY]Оо
19:16.36DronAn[BY]у тебя мини
19:16.36DronAn[BY]А я хотел такой брать
19:16.36Dark[BY]мой ник там - Darktroll
19:17.13Dark[BY]вроде я пишу там начиная с 18 поста
19:17.32Dark[BY]проблема - в 23
19:19.48Dark[BY]прочёл?
19:20.56AlexAnteMachinaanybody ever heard of "Kolibri" OS?
19:20.59DronAn[BY]Угу
19:21.07DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, Yes
19:21.17DronAn[BY]Nice small OS
19:21.31DronAn[BY]Not finished at all
19:21.32AlexAnteMachinatried to have a look at it.
19:21.32Dark[BY]very small
19:21.33DronAn[BY]:)
19:21.43Dark[BY]really
19:21.50DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, but it wark
19:21.55DronAn[BY]*work
19:22.09DronAn[BY]Dark[BY], так а ты сейчас  Ñ мини?
19:22.09AlexAnteMachinacannot find a *.iso file!
19:22.14Dark[BY]неа
19:22.19Dark[BY]с большого ноута
19:22.27Dark[BY]на мини ставлю убунту + у17
19:22.27DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, is not iso there
19:22.29Dark[BY]e17
19:22.36DronAn[BY]Ну попробуй
19:22.37Dark[BY]пробую
19:22.49DronAn[BY]Оставь место потом илайв туда запихнешь
19:22.53DronAn[BY]В любом случае
19:23.02AlexAnteMachinano iso? But what else can be burned to a CD instead of a iso???
19:23.05DronAn[BY]думаю самому разрабу Илайва будет интересно глянуть
19:23.10Dark[BY]не люблю столпотворение систем
19:23.20DronAn[BY]Ну попробовать
19:23.37DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, is not iso distr :)
19:23.53DronAn[BY]It is olnly as dir
19:24.00Dark[BY]касяк в дебиане именно в отсутствии поддержке broadcom wireless и chrome video
19:24.01DronAn[BY]Unpack it
19:24.10DronAn[BY]Блин
19:24.21DronAn[BY]а что за хром такое видео вообще
19:24.22DronAn[BY]Короч
19:24.27AlexAnteMachinai already did so.
19:24.27DronAn[BY]если существуют дрова
19:24.31AlexAnteMachinawhat then?
19:24.32DronAn[BY]для всего этого
19:24.42DronAn[BY]То разраб их прикрутит к илайву
19:24.54Dark[BY]jyb nj ceotcnde.n yj tcnm ghj,ktvs rjnjhst z yt d cbkf[ gjrf htibnm
19:24.55AlexAnteMachinait's just a 4,4 MB file.
19:25.02DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, add it in grub menu
19:25.04Dark[BY]бляя
19:25.09AlexAnteMachinaah!
19:25.15Dark[BY])))
19:25.36Dark[BY]ну если ему не в падлу то пусть попробует
19:25.38Dark[BY]))
19:26.16Dark[BY]нужны дрова для b4312 и chrome9
19:26.41Dark[BY]ну я еще не пробовал воевать с елайвом
19:27.06DronAn[BY]AlexAnteMachina, http://wiki.kolibrios.org/Booting_from_GRUB
19:27.12Dark[BY]сяс если убунта не заведется, буду ставить на винт елайв и мучать его
19:28.04Dark[BY]вообще удобна при постоянном юзании e17?
19:28.23DronAn[BY]Угу
19:28.24DronAn[BY]очень
19:28.28DronAn[BY]Кста
19:28.32Dark[BY]ню?
19:28.36DronAn[BY]в Илайве очень много удобных фишек
19:28.42Dark[BY]например?
19:28.43DronAn[BY]без которых жить уже немогу )
19:28.48Dark[BY]не томи
19:28.57DronAn[BY]Автокопирование выделенного текста
19:29.07DronAn[BY]и вставка по нажатии колесика мыши
19:29.12DronAn[BY]или 2х клавиш мыши
19:29.12Dark[BY]хм.... что такое есть и для дебиана
19:29.18DronAn[BY]Уху есть
19:29.21Dark[BY]это как бэ не проблема сделать
19:29.22DronAn[BY]но надо ставить
19:29.25DronAn[BY]самому
19:29.35DronAn[BY]Не ну тут все самое удобное собрано
19:29.39DronAn[BY]А еще во
19:29.46Dark[BY]ну авто мот и надо, а вот вставка по другой клаве - не надо
19:29.51DronAn[BY]Ехал  Ñ в Минск на поезде с ежиком
19:29.55Dark[BY]ну и
19:29.59DronAn[BY]захоетел инет )
19:30.08DronAn[BY]Подключил кабелем ЮСБ к мобилке
19:30.18DronAn[BY]нажал значек конектора
19:30.26Dark[BY]и все полнялось
19:30.32Dark[BY]я предсказатель?
19:30.35Dark[BY])))
19:30.36DronAn[BY]выбрал 3ж инет
19:30.41DronAn[BY]Выбрал Лайф
19:30.46DronAn[BY]И нажал коннект
19:30.52Dark[BY]о как
19:30.56DronAn[BY]Через 10 секунд я в инете )
19:30.57Dark[BY]там даже лайф есть?
19:31.00DronAn[BY]Ну да
19:31.01Dark[BY]жесть
19:31.03DronAn[BY]Я попросил
19:31.07DronAn[BY]Человек добавил )
19:31.10Dark[BY]у разрабов?
19:31.14DronAn[BY]Уху
19:31.18Dark[BY]ахренеть
19:31.30DronAn[BY]Все очень гибко и удобно на самомо деле
19:31.44Dark[BY]слушай, не мог бы ты попросить полную поддержку из коробки железа 2133?
19:31.55DronAn[BY]Ну так надо с ним общаться :(
19:31.58DronAn[BY]:)
19:32.00DronAn[BY]Тоесть
19:32.05Dark[BY]просто мой английский очень херовый
19:32.09DronAn[BY]Короч надо смотреть что не работает
19:32.14DronAn[BY]что хреново работает
19:32.21DronAn[BY]И искать дровишки
19:32.21Dark[BY]ну пока погоди
19:32.25DronAn[BY]И все
19:32.27Dark[BY]я еще помучаю его
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19:32.38Dark[BY]благо некий опыт есть
19:32.40DronAn[BY]Сейчас на форуме гляну что про него есть
19:32.51Dark[BY]просто я не брался за него
19:33.16Dark[BY]я тока загрузил и уыидел что разрешение говно, а мою беспроводную карточку он не увидел
19:33.28DronAn[BY]А что значит гавно разрешение?
19:33.35Dark[BY]ну маленькое
19:33.40DronAn[BY]не 1024на 600,
19:33.43Dark[BY]не 1024х600
19:33.54Dark[BY]а 600 на 800 вроде
19:34.03DronAn[BY]Мдя уж
19:34.07DronAn[BY]А ты автоматом выбирал там?
19:34.07Dark[BY]но это я попробую с ксоргом поколдовать
19:34.21Dark[BY]я еще ниче не выбирал
19:34.31DronAn[BY]Ты при загрузке с лайв сд пробуй
19:34.31DronAn[BY]Там выбор есть
19:35.16Dark[BY]неа
19:35.19Dark[BY]не захотел
19:35.42Dark[BY]там для msi и еще когото такое разрешение, а видюха там не такая
19:35.54Dark[BY]хм, грузанулась убунта
19:35.56Dark[BY]красиво
19:36.03Dark[BY]и вроде пока все работате
19:36.16DronAn[BY]С илайвом?
19:36.19DronAn[BY]Тьфу
19:36.22Dark[BY]нет
19:36.24DronAn[BY]С Енлайментом?
19:36.25DronAn[BY]Или просто
19:36.28DronAn[BY]Ну кстати
19:36.29Dark[BY]да
19:36.35Dark[BY]с e17
19:36.46DronAn[BY]Но там замучаешся настраивать под себя
19:36.48DronAn[BY]Еще
19:36.59Dark[BY]не спорю
19:37.00DronAn[BY]Лучше может подключить репы Елайва
19:37.07Dark[BY]но смотрится еффектно
19:37.13DronAn[BY]И сразу с них установить?
19:37.14Dark[BY]неа, не стоит
19:37.19Dark[BY]это все таки убунту
19:37.22Dark[BY]а не дебиан
19:37.25DronAn[BY]Та пофик
19:37.33Dark[BY]эт как ни крути все же разные вещи
19:37.45DronAn[BY]Та только для Енлаймента и модулей
19:37.50DronAn[BY]а не для всех обновлений )
19:37.55Dark[BY]я в шоке!
19:38.07Dark[BY]все летает с такой скоростью!!!!
19:38.13DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, ping
19:39.02Dark[BY]так, мля.... где там конфигурялка сети???
19:39.05DronAn[BY]Как это с тобой не потерять связь?
19:39.11Dark[BY]гуевая
19:39.14DronAn[BY]Так вот там ее так нет )
19:39.18DronAn[BY]Ставь как модуль
19:39.21Dark[BY]мля
19:39.24DronAn[BY]если найдешь
19:39.25Dark[BY]опять в консоль
19:39.27DronAn[BY]А вообще надо бы говорю
19:39.29Dark[BY]ну не проблема
19:39.32DronAn[BY]подключить репы илайва
19:39.35DronAn[BY]Ну слушай
19:39.38DronAn[BY]пожди
19:39.41Dark[BY]ну
19:40.20DronAn[BY]Эх непомню как его зовут :(
19:40.30DronAn[BY]Конфигуратора этого
19:40.32Dark[BY]кого?
19:40.35DronAn[BY]))
19:40.37Dark[BY]wicd?
19:40.44DronAn[BY]Наверное нет
19:40.46Dark[BY]я обычно его юзаю
19:40.46DronAn[BY]а может и он
19:40.54Dark[BY]уже ставлю
19:40.59DronAn[BY]Уху
19:41.00DronAn[BY]оно
19:41.02Dark[BY]он обычно подхватывает все
19:41.50Dark[BY]это один из первых прог которые ставлю
19:41.50Dark[BY]на свежую систему
19:42.01DronAn[BY]Ясно
19:42.29Dark[BY]шоб не потяряться,моя ася - 328348772
19:42.36Dark[BY]как то привык к ней
19:42.37DronAn[BY]А покажи мне в привате вывод lspci с мини
19:42.46Dark[BY]погоди
19:42.50DronAn[BY]А жаббера нет у тебя? :(
19:43.06Dark[BY]что тебя конкретно с железа интересует?
19:43.12Dark[BY]модуль вай-фай?
19:43.15Dark[BY]wl
19:43.58DronAn[BY]та все покажи
19:44.06Dark[BY]ха!
19:44.18DronAn[BY]ну lspci
19:44.20DronAn[BY]:)
19:44.22Dark[BY]с елайвом таже маза1
19:44.24Dark[BY]!
19:44.28Dark[BY]ВИСНЕТ!
19:44.36DronAn[BY]Виснет Оо
19:44.40DronAn[BY]с енлайментом?
19:44.46Dark[BY]ну что за наказание......
19:44.54Dark[BY]почему в гноме не виснет?????
19:45.35DronAn[BY]Жесть
19:45.45DronAn[BY]Не спеши
19:45.49Dark[BY]может грузится в неком порядке другом что-то, что глушит иксы?
19:46.05DronAn[BY]У меня тошиба этот вис везде
19:46.11DronAn[BY]со всеми дистрами
19:46.14DronAn[BY]Кроме дебиана
19:46.21DronAn[BY]но в дебиане звук хромал что пипец
19:46.21Dark[BY]так главное в ступор входит вся система
19:46.24DronAn[BY]а тут работает все
19:46.30Dark[BY]а что за вай-фай у тя?
19:46.38Dark[BY]что за тошиба вообще?
19:46.38DronAn[BY]Та старый тут Атерос
19:46.42Dark[BY]а
19:46.45DronAn[BY]а на ииипс Ралинк
19:46.51DronAn[BY]Тошиба блин
19:46.52Dark[BY]ath5 видимо?
19:46.54DronAn[BY]сателит
19:47.01DronAn[BY]построенная на АТИ вся
19:47.03Dark[BY]ну модуль ядра
19:47.08Dark[BY]ath5?
19:47.13DronAn[BY]Атерос 5
19:47.14DronAn[BY]да
19:47.21DronAn[BY]Та это старый чип
19:47.23DronAn[BY]совсем
19:47.32Dark[BY]нормально он у меня на прошлом ноуте работал
19:47.40Dark[BY]и на дебиане и на убунте
19:47.46Dark[BY]и на сусе
19:47.49Dark[BY]и на мандриве
19:47.52DronAn[BY]Так у меня не вай фай вешался
19:47.57DronAn[BY]а бук полностью
19:48.03Dark[BY]так у мну тоже
19:48.10Dark[BY]даже в консоль не могу зайти
19:48.22Dark[BY]так
19:48.22DronAn[BY]Ну так естессно
19:48.22Dark[BY]минутку
19:48.22DronAn[BY]Короч
19:48.23Dark[BY]отвис
19:48.24DronAn[BY]Смотри
19:48.28DronAn[BY]Оо
19:48.30DronAn[BY]Отвис???
19:48.37Dark[BY]и сказал что wicd завершил работу
19:48.47Dark[BY]щас процетирую
19:49.04Dark[BY]а, ниче особенного
19:49.21Dark[BY]просто пишет что wicd неожиданно завершил работу
19:49.46DronAn[BY]Пробуй скачай версию Илайв с например http://elive.7ds.pl/isos/development/kernel-2.6.26/
19:49.54Dark[BY]код выхода 1 был возвращен из wicd-client --no-tray
19:50.10Dark[BY]разницы нету
19:50.27Dark[BY]дебиан стеэбл м 26-ым - тоже самое
19:50.54DronAn[BY]Ну надо смотреть
19:50.58Dark[BY]ладно, попробую поставить elive
19:51.06DronAn[BY]Ядра то одни а патчатся по разному
19:51.24DronAn[BY]Так дай вывод команды
19:51.42Dark[BY]лан, мне придется выгрузиться с лайв сиди.
19:51.56Dark[BY]нужен диск для mini
19:52.10Dark[BY]как загружусь - выйду на связь
19:52.14DronAn[BY]Та плин
19:52.14DronAn[BY]слушай
19:52.15DronAn[BY]еще что
19:52.19Dark[BY]ну
19:52.26DronAn[BY]У тебя короче виснет только когда с вай фаем мутишь?
19:52.48Dark[BY]да
19:52.49DronAn[BY]Такая фигня бывает если юзаешь виндовые дрова под мадвайфай
19:52.57Dark[BY]неа
19:52.59DronAn[BY]Нужно нативные искать и вставлять
19:53.09Dark[BY]искал вставлял - тоже самое
19:53.32Dark[BY]единственное что не пробовал - ndiswrapper
19:53.46Dark[BY]но это самый-самый крайняк
19:53.56Dark[BY]лан, я временно выйду
19:53.58Dark[BY]ок?
19:54.21Dark[BY]если не сложно, подумай про мою траблу. просто я реально не знаю че делать.
19:54.31Dark[BY]может разрабы че подскажут?
19:54.39DronAn[BY]Уху
19:54.44Dark[BY]лан, я на ребут
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20:13.32Elive_user68hello
20:14.54she_dyedhey there
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20:16.08Dark[BY]пизд*ц
20:16.34Dark[BY]можно этьу систему установить в текстовом режиме?
20:19.46Dark[BY]DronAn, ты тут?
20:25.57DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, ping
20:29.30ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], ьоию
20:29.41DronAn[BY]Wow
20:29.45DronAn[BY]^^
20:30.10DronAn[BY]How to install Elive in different partition?
20:30.21Thanatermesisso select it in the installer
20:30.24DronAn[BY]As self for/boot/
20:30.37DronAn[BY]And self for /home/
20:30.42DronAn[BY]and so on
20:30.55Thanatermesisnot understand
20:31.11DronAn[BY]aa
20:31.15DronAn[BY]ee
20:31.19DronAn[BY]Look
20:31.46DronAn[BY]i want my elive not on 1 whall partition
20:32.34DronAn[BY]*whole
20:32.56she_dyedat the moment of partitioning you can choose
20:33.05she_dyedthe mount points
20:33.13DronAn[BY]But i want for /boot/ have different, self partition
20:33.15she_dyedand also whether to format or not
20:33.16she_dyedyes
20:33.30she_dyedit will let you indicate mount points
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20:33.32DronAn[BY]As it in other distros?
20:33.37she_dyedyes
20:33.41DronAn[BY]Ok
20:33.43DronAn[BY]thank
20:33.44DronAn[BY]s
20:33.47she_dyedyw
20:34.02DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, ping
20:34.03she_dyedDronAn[BY]: in fact, you can back out if you're not sure yet
20:34.09DronAn[BY]Here is a guy
20:34.28DronAn[BY]With HP mini 2133
20:35.02DronAn[BY]Do you know this thing? It has chrome video :) from VIA
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20:35.35DronAn[BY]she_dyed, Thanks
20:35.43she_dyednp man
20:35.46DronAn[BY]it not for me anyway
20:35.46Thanatermesis<DronAn[BY]> But i want for /boot/ have different, self partition
20:35.47Thanatermesiswell
20:35.55Thanatermesisthere's 2 ways to do that:
20:35.57DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, it is ok
20:36.07Thanatermesis1) doing it from the installer, of course with a new install mode
20:36.25Thanatermesis2) you know some linux/unix things in order to do this and that the system will work stable
20:36.35Thanatermesisthe first option only requires time, and maybe an external backup disk
20:36.46Thanatermesisthe second option requires the sufficient knowledges to do that
20:37.26DronAn[BY]Щл ерфтлы
20:37.29DronAn[BY]Ok
20:37.32DronAn[BY]Thanks
20:37.34DronAn[BY]:)
20:37.55DronAn[BY]And look on real question
20:37.57DronAn[BY]:)
20:38.21Thanatermesisbasically, if you want to "move" your actual install to that mode, you need to move the data to the other partitions and mount them in the final system (so, edit fstab)
20:38.25Thanatermesisthat's basically the thing
20:38.39DronAn[BY]Yes
20:38.55DronAn[BY]The lad ask where is mount options?
20:39.07Thanatermesisfstab
20:39.13Thanatermesisthis is not hard for /home
20:39.19Thanatermesisbut is more tricky for /boot
20:39.34Thanatermesisi recommend the easy way:  if you dont know how to do that, do it from the installer that will work stable
20:39.43DronAn[BY]How installer will know it?
20:39.45Thanatermesisi recommend the easy way:  if you dont know how to do that, do it from the installer that do it on the correct way
20:39.54Thanatermesisyou specify that on the installer
20:40.02ThanatermesisComplete mode (no auto/easy)
20:40.02DronAn[BY]Khm
20:40.08DronAn[BY]Yes
20:40.12Thanatermesisit asks you for if you want to add other partitions
20:40.25Thanatermesisso you say "yes", and start selection one for boot, another for home, etc etc
20:40.27DronAn[BY]The other lad now doing it and ask me how
20:40.33ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], why not everything on the same partition ?
20:41.11DronAn[BY]I do not know
20:41.14DronAn[BY]habbit
20:41.15Thanatermesislol
20:41.16DronAn[BY]:)
20:41.19Thanatermesiswell...
20:41.29Thanatermesisyou are more limited if you separate partitions
20:41.29DronAn[BY]The other lad now doing it and ask me how
20:41.37DronAn[BY]I know that
20:41.47DronAn[BY]i never use this way
20:41.57Thanatermesisso "oh f*ck, my /home partition is full but i have a lot of free space on root, what i do now?"
20:42.08DronAn[BY]))
20:42.10Thanatermesismore probably the inverse
20:42.24Thanatermesis"oh my root is full, i can't install any package or anything, but my home is full of free space"
20:42.52DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, let's do some research
20:43.12DronAn[BY]Do you know HP 2133 mini?
20:43.36DronAn[BY]It is builded on VIA
20:43.46Thanatermesisthe good thing of separate partitions is that... well, you can reinstall the system on your root partition and import your old /home partition on it, that needs to be done manually and with some unix/linux knowledges, but that is not needed in Elive since the installer manages all this without hte need of an extra home partition
20:43.50Thanatermesisyes
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20:44.07DronAn[BY]The same lad have it
20:44.18DronAn[BY]and have a pain in the ars
20:44.44DronAn[BY]With Video resolution and Wi-Fi
20:44.53Thanatermesislast version of Elive development ?
20:45.05DronAn[BY]As well :(
20:45.16DronAn[BY]Now he has installed it
20:45.27DronAn[BY]and go to reboot
20:45.36DronAn[BY]Will see
20:45.41Thanatermesiswich version ? 1.9.50 ?
20:45.58DronAn[BY]But in live mode resolution was not right
20:46.05DronAn[BY]1.9.50 Yes
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20:46.09DronAn[BY]he said
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20:48.52DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, there is chrome video from VIA
20:49.03DronAn[BY]And broadcom Wi-Fi
20:49.07DronAn[BY]And
20:49.45ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], the wifi should work out of the box with 1.9.50
20:49.47DronAn[BY]It hanging up. In all WM but not in Gnome
20:49.54Thanatermesisabout the resolution... mmmh, maybe i need a ssh to see that
20:49.59keyraThanatermesis: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
20:50.08Thanatermesiso_O'
20:50.11Thanatermesiswhat gnome thing ?
20:50.21DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, will wait for him after tuning
20:50.27Thanatermesisok
20:50.43DronAn[BY]Enviroment GNOME
20:51.10DronAn[BY]Only workin on that mini not hangingup
20:51.54Thanatermesisthat doesn't has sense
20:52.00Thanatermesisthere's no difference
20:52.07ThanatermesisWM has nothing to do with hardware
20:52.07DronAn[BY]I think so
20:52.19DronAn[BY]But fact
20:52.21DronAn[BY]:)
20:52.26DronAn[BY]I beleve him
20:52.45DronAn[BY]:)
20:55.28Thanatermesisbelieve or not, doesn't has sense :)
20:56.01Thanatermesisnothing related with a hangup, should be a casual state... say him to use gnome for 2-3 days and see
20:56.05DronAn[BY]I had same problems before
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21:22.32DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, send mail to that nice guy
21:23.27ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], better say him to report any problem to bugs.elivecd.org , or to ask here if is impatient
21:23.28DronAn[BY]*I've send
21:23.41keyraThanatermesis: http://bugs.elivecd.org
21:23.49Thanatermesisah ok
21:23.53DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, :)
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21:37.09DronAn[BY]F**ck. It's looks like i has quit :)
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21:44.41DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, ping
21:44.57DronAn[BY]He have bad resolution
21:45.12DronAn[BY]on mini 2133
21:46.24DronAn[BY]What messages do you need to check it?
21:50.50DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, ping
21:52.11DronAn[BY]It said to him X server unavailable
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21:52.56she_dyedmaybe the earlier one is still running?
21:53.01she_dyedps aux | grep X
21:53.07she_dyedcapital X
21:53.25she_dyedgot to kill that before a second instance
21:53.27ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], which resolution you have and which one is the correct ?
21:53.54ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], well, say him to run the command eliveremote so that i can enter on his computer and see what is happening
21:53.55DronAn[BY]1024x600 he heed
21:54.19DronAn[BY]<PROTECTED>
21:54.20DronAn[BY]<Dark[BY]> root      2797  3.3  1.0  15516  9384 tty7     Ss+  00:37   0:33 /usr/bin/X -quiet -br -dpms -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 :0
21:54.20DronAn[BY]<Dark[BY]> Dark      3828  0.0  0.0   4732   760 pts/1    S+   00:53   0:00 grep X
21:55.34ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], 1024x600 is available to select from the list of resolutions... he has selected this resolution, right ? well, say him to run that command, i can't do much from here
21:55.52DronAn[BY]I 'll
21:56.00she_dyedas root he has to kill -9 2797
21:56.09DronAn[BY]He said it is nothing to select
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21:57.18DronAn[BY]How to print resolution of X  in the console?
21:57.30DronAn[BY]How to check it?
21:57.48DronAn[BY]she_dyed, hi is rebooting his router
22:00.52DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, when hi is trying to hit Resolution in Setting Panel
22:01.02DronAn[BY]It show him an error
22:01.19she_dyedxdpyinfo | grep imension
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22:02.24ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], in the boot, he should have an option to select resolution
22:03.04Thanatermesis[asdf ~]$ xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
22:03.04Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
22:03.54ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], no, this option to select resolution is only available in live mode, when booting the live mode, he should have see it, make sure that he has see this message in the boot or then is a bug
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22:04.46estudiohello
22:04.53she_dyedhey there
22:05.11estudioloving elive 1.9.50
22:05.14DronAn[BY]<PROTECTED>
22:05.39estudioonly one issue so far
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22:06.15estudiomy wallpaper has disappeared lol
22:06.23she_dyedOMG
22:06.29keyraestudio: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
22:06.37she_dyedThanatermesis: we should put elive on HOLD lol
22:06.51DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, he said in livemode he check for 1024x600 and auto
22:06.55DronAn[BY]all the same
22:07.06DronAn[BY]640x480
22:07.32she_dyedestudio: did you do a download?
22:07.40she_dyedof wallpaper?
22:07.55she_dyedor the current one 'vanished'
22:07.57estudioYesand no
22:08.03estudiothe current one
22:08.11estudioand now the dowloaded one
22:08.48ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], ok, i need ssh, i can't do more from here
22:09.34DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, he did eliveromoute
22:09.49she_dyedestudio: if it was a firefox d/load it could be sitting in Downloads/firefox
22:09.50DronAn[BY]eliveremote
22:10.10estudiolol, im sorry let me clarify.
22:11.17estudiowhen changing wallpapers or themes the wallpapers no longer show
22:11.38she_dyedhow do you change walls, do you use the menu?
22:12.10estudiolmb settings theme, and/or wallpaper
22:12.41she_dyedso you're saying the list doesnt even have their names
22:13.43she_dyedits all the old entries that elive shipped with
22:14.02she_dyedand none of the new stuff
22:14.37estudiounder wallpapers wuth the system radio button checked there is just the two gradients
22:14.51keyraestudio: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
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22:19.40she_dyedestudio: might be worth it to check that link from keyra
22:19.48she_dyedso you might get an idea
22:20.33estudiolooking into it now, fwiw, i was able to import a new jpg wallpaper
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22:24.16estudioquestion before i edit the downloaded edj files, where would i find the default wallpaper ex the small tree one
22:24.30keyraestudio: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
22:25.53she_dyedestudio: system ones are usually in /usr/share/
22:26.08she_dyed/usr/share/enlightenment/data/blablabla
22:26.14AlexAnteMachinahey, estudio dont harm that tree!
22:26.24she_dyedhe wants it back lol
22:26.30estudioI wont touch it lol,
22:26.42estudiojust checking for wallpaper
22:27.42AlexAnteMachinaBetter you dont. I've made it explosive. May blow up when someon tries to cut it down.
22:27.55she_dyedbasically the forum mentioned that old old edjs may need to be rebuilt
22:28.06AlexAnteMachinais the inventor of exploding trees!
22:30.14estudio2 questions, upon fresh install what should be in the system background folder and theme folder
22:30.28keyraestudio: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
22:31.32estudiohey keyra, ive looked there...wait are u guys saying that i need to edit the default edjs?
22:31.47she_dyedif the edj you're grabbing is too old
22:32.12she_dyedthe reply in that forum shows a decompile and rebuild
22:36.16estudiogotcha on that, Im really not trying to go that far with it, i just wish to get the default themes and wallpapers working
22:36.30keyraestudio: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
22:37.01she_dyedthe personal walls shoud be in ~/.e/e/backgrounds
22:37.22she_dyedand then they show up on the menu
22:37.35she_dyedunder background > personal
22:37.49keyrashe_dyed: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
22:38.12she_dyedkeyra! I know ! will you put something on !
22:38.25estudioIve got the bug page on my right hand here
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22:39.16she_dyedsometimes estudio i decompile and then put the jpg somewhere
22:39.49she_dyedthen in backgrounds > select picture > navigate to the jpg
22:39.57she_dyedthen let e do the compile for me
22:40.14she_dyedright there it gets converted to edj on the spot
22:40.18she_dyedunder the covers
22:40.40estudioright, that seems to have done that with the imported jpg i mentioned, np
22:41.02estudiobut i cant get the default wallpapers back
22:41.02she_dyedhey nice
22:41.16estudiothats the problem
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22:41.41she_dyedi know, try this!
22:41.45she_dyedyou can go to themes
22:41.55she_dyedand advanced
22:42.06she_dyedi can select the background of a different theme
22:42.12she_dyedand click assign
22:42.30she_dyedbut my overall theme will still be the current one get it?>
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22:43.10estudiotried it...no good
22:46.34AlexAnteMachinahey she_dyed I'm listening to Kreator... didnt for years!
22:46.37she_dyedyou could view the background of default theme
22:46.51keyrashe_dyed: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
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22:49.57estudiosrry my x froze up
22:51.41she_dyedestudio: in themes if i picked default i should see the tree background, and click assign
22:51.50she_dyedto background
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23:20.31estudioim back...and well Ive ran the nurse mode, that seemed to have restored my default wallpaper...
23:20.45keyraestudio: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
23:21.14estudiois keyra a bot?
23:21.20she_dyedyes
23:21.28keyraestudio: you think so?
23:22.01estudiostill not sure. LOL
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23:23.01she_dyedunderneath is a hyper alloy combat chassis, fully armored. very tough.
23:23.22estudioFor now since im on the dev distro ill leave the wallpapers alone. Soon I will definatley donte for the stable,
23:23.35estudiodonate oops
23:24.00estudioOn a different note...
23:25.10estudioIn nurse mode on prev livecds there was a menu that poped up after you logged in, has that been removed?  
23:26.53she_dyedi dont know, havent seen  nurse mode in action but some others have
23:27.46she_dyedthe ones i've hadfail to even MAKE past boot no matter what failsafe mode
23:28.00she_dyedon old hardware
23:28.23she_dyedso i've had to retreat to earlier versions
23:28.54she_dyedgtg lie down for a bt
23:29.02estudiookay, well if I run into anything else...ill be back, thanks she_dyed and er' uh..keyra
23:29.13she_dyedyw cya
23:29.16keyraestudio: welcome :)
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23:43.30twiggzgood evening internets!
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23:57.59ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], what happened ? :)
23:58.10DronAn[BY]Internet :(
23:58.31DronAn[BY]And so
23:58.31DronAn[BY]I have to go sleep
23:58.49Thanatermesiswell
23:58.51Thanatermesiswhere is that user ?
23:58.52DronAn[BY]There is nothing we can do today
23:58.57ThanatermesisDark[BY] ?
23:58.59DronAn[BY]Hi is here
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23:59.16Dark[BY]yes
23:59.21Dark[BY]i'm here
23:59.33Dark[BY]but my english is very bad
23:59.57ThanatermesisDark[BY], we are going to update your Elive install to "debian testing" to see if the graphic card works, ok ?
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