IRC log for #elive on 20091020

00:00.00Thanatermesisthis process can be slow
00:00.11keyraThanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
00:00.19Dark[BY]now?
00:00.20Elive_user49_end.nnr
00:00.30ThanatermesisDark[BY], what happened ? i dont have access
00:00.52Dark[BY]i don't know
00:01.50Dark[BY]may be reboot?
00:01.54Thanatermesishttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=via_no_chrome9&num=1
00:02.00ThanatermesisDark[BY], i dont have connection
00:02.23DronAn[BY]In chat
00:02.24DronAn[BY]Dark[BY], ping
00:03.11ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], he can open the ssh port on his router ?
00:05.40Dark[BY]maybe tommorow?
00:05.53Dark[BY]I want sleep now
00:06.15DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, we did put his mashine in DMZ
00:06.18DronAn[BY]But still not access
00:06.36ThanatermesisDark[BY], you can keep your computer working between you sleep
00:06.56ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], he can run the command "showmyip" to see his ip
00:07.31DronAn[BY]Dark[BY], о покажи ай пи этой командой
00:07.59Dark[BY]уже выключил ноут
00:08.06Dark[BY]там было цифровое месиво
00:08.11Dark[BY]он походу завис
00:08.24DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, only ubuntu works there
00:08.24DronAn[BY]No debian's
00:08.34twiggzhmm
00:08.35ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], we have not tried an updated debian :)
00:08.49DronAn[BY]Yes %)
00:09.01Dark[BY]скажи им что я пробовал
00:09.01Thanatermesisthat's what im trying to do, update debian packages to squeeze or unstable to see if works
00:09.06DronAn[BY]I'm lucky
00:09.23DronAn[BY]I've not bought this netbook'
00:09.29Thanatermesishaha
00:09.55DronAn[BY]He was try it
00:09.59Thanatermesisadd this line to /etc/apt/sources.list and run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"  DronAn[BY]  deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free
00:10.04Thanatermesisto switch to squeeze
00:10.06Dark[BY]если брать пакет с openchrome из squeeze и отредавтировать двумя строками xorg.conf то разрешение было нормальное
00:10.12Thanatermesisif not works, change squeeze for unstable
00:10.13keyraThanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
00:10.29Thanatermesiseasy :)
00:12.00DronAn[BY]updating debian
00:12.05DronAn[BY]Dark[BY], попробуй завтра
00:12.11DronAn[BY]добавь репозиторий этот в файл
00:12.13DronAn[BY]и обнови дистр
00:12.19DronAn[BY]посмотрим что будет
00:12.26Dark[BY]так, минуточку
00:12.30DronAn[BY]щл
00:12.31DronAn[BY]ok
00:12.33DronAn[BY]bb2all
00:12.36Dark[BY]мне прямо эту систему обновить?
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02:31.05Thanatermesisshe_dyed, ping ?
02:33.23kingdonblarg
02:38.04kingdonis #elive logged somewhere public?
02:39.07Thanatermesisi think that is logged, but i dont know where
02:43.17kingdonsaid something hilarious about two days ago
02:43.22kingdonmy irc logs don't go back that far :\
02:43.54kingdonit's gone now! *woebegone*
02:45.06kingdonwhoa
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02:46.53kingdonman i've gotta finish this euchre game
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04:50.28Go-erLinuxNIT: How r u doing?
05:02.35Go-ercu all :)
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13:26.19keyraElive_user94_es: que tal ?
13:26.30Elive_user94_esde donde eres
13:27.10Elive_user94_esque sala de chat es esta??
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13:30.36Elive_user16_enhello
13:49.45AlexAnteMachinahey Wizard
13:49.49AlexAnteMachinao/
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15:46.20DronAn[BY]Hello world
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16:32.57Elive_user32_enhello everybody
16:34.51Elive_user32_enwhen I upgrade my elive system, after restart, I receive this problem: "acpid: client XXXX[0:0] has disconnected",
16:35.05keyraElive_user32_en: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
16:35.32Elive_user32_enDo somebody tell me how to fix this?
16:38.12ThanatermesisElive_user32_en, what version of Elive ? where do you see this message ? what happens when you have this mesage ?
16:39.15Elive_user32_enthis is the last development version ....50 installed from liveCD like upgrade the system
16:39.57Elive_user32_enOn my PC Elive is installed on separated partitions
16:40.36Elive_user32_enThe liveCD run normal.
16:40.48Thanatermesisso what's the problem ?
16:40.52Elive_user32_enProblem appears after instalation
16:43.25Elive_user32_enX can't start, and istead this, I receive this notice: "acpid: client XXXX[0:0] has disconnected" in text mode non stop and scroll this over the screen,
16:43.48Elive_user32_enwhere XXXX are different numbers
16:46.03Thanatermesisok
16:46.05Elive_user32_enIn google I found this "Bug#526917: acpid: client NNNN[0:0] has
16:46.05Elive_user32_endisconnected
16:46.05Elive_user32_en" but can't understand how to fix the problem
16:46.26Thanatermesisit is strange that in the live mode it works
16:46.31Thanatermesisand no in the installed mode
16:46.34Thanatermesiswhich graphic card you have ?
16:46.36Elive_user32_enyes
16:46.53Elive_user32_ennvidia
16:47.02Elive_user32_en73--
16:47.03Thanatermesiswhich driver model have you selected ?
16:47.08Thanatermesis173 ?
16:47.30Thanatermesisor 71 ?
16:47.56Elive_user32_enIn live mode I tryed with different drivers and they work all
16:48.05Thanatermesismmh
16:48.09Elive_user32_en173 and nvidia_new
16:48.19Thanatermesisthere's a problem with the 173 one
16:48.23Thanatermesisbut is actually fixed
16:48.31ThanatermesisElive_user32_en, can you reboot in live mode for do a new installation ?
16:48.47Elive_user32_enok
16:48.50ThanatermesisElive_user32_en, you need to update the installer before to install again, so to have the problem fixed
16:49.12Thanatermesisso reboot in live mode and enter in this chat and say my name so that i tell you how to do that
16:49.25Elive_user32_enok
16:49.27Elive_user32_ensecond
16:50.09Elive_user32_ennow I boot from cd
16:52.30Elive_user32_enThanatermesis, the live mode suggests to choose nvidia_173
16:52.43ThanatermesisElive_user32_en, ok, use it
16:52.49Elive_user32_enok
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16:54.31Elive_user35_enThanatermesis, now I am in live mode
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16:55.25ThanatermesisElive_user32_en, ok, give me a second, do not start the installer yet
16:55.38Elive_user35_enThanatermesis, ok
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17:02.22ThanatermesisElive_user35_en, run this command as root:  apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g , then run the installer and when you reboot in the installed mode, tell me if the problem is fixed
17:02.36keyraThanatermesis: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb
17:03.16Elive_user35_enok
17:20.10Elive_user32_enThanatermesis, everything now is ok
17:20.37ThanatermesisElive_user32_en, perfect :), thanks for the report
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17:21.24Elive_user32_enThanatermesis, I thank you for stop my agony :))
17:21.43Thanatermesis:)
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18:25.38Thanatermesiswb DronAn[BY] DronAn[BY]_eeepc
18:26.14DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, Hello
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19:05.19she_dyedw00t
19:06.04AlexAnteMachinawhat happend?
19:06.23she_dyedi think i know which partition to zap for the next elive
19:06.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcwhere happend?
19:06.45DronAn[BY]_eeepcHello lads
19:06.50she_dyedhey there
19:07.09DronAn[BY]_eeepcshe_dyed, Go gobby?
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19:07.24keyraDronAn[BY]_eeepc: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's
19:07.26she_dyedsomething needs fixing DronAn[BY]_eeepc?
19:07.50DronAn[BY]_eeepcI think so
19:08.01she_dyedfrom tha man entermisis
19:08.09DronAn[BY]_eeepc)
19:08.25DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, ping
19:08.39Thanatermesiso/
19:08.42Thanatermesis3g4o8b6b7y0 opened
19:08.53DronAn[BY]_eeepcwhat addres?
19:09.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcagain please
19:09.01Thanatermesishome.thanatermesis.org :)
19:09.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcok
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19:13.09she_dyedhey wasynyt o/
19:13.36wasynytgood evening she_dyed
19:13.45DronAn[BY]_eeepchello
19:13.59she_dyedis it thana who's typing?
19:14.13she_dyedotherwise DronAn[BY]_eeepc has 3 ahnds :)
19:14.19she_dyedhands*
19:17.09DronAn[BY]Yes
19:17.15DronAn[BY]It was him :)
19:18.26she_dyedit's like those movies where superman appears next o clark kent so people will say its not him
19:18.26DronAn[BY]:)
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19:37.19she_dyedThere i think it looks good, but Thana will tell me if I changed the meaning in any line in any way
19:40.36DronAn[BY]It is ok
19:40.46DronAn[BY]but where is the way out?
19:41.06DronAn[BY]from this situation?
19:41.34she_dyedi think CLose document, Quit session in that order
19:41.42DronAn[BY]:)
19:41.58DronAn[BY]Are you kiding?
19:42.03DronAn[BY]:0
19:42.06she_dyedeither that or THana grabs it from me
19:42.18she_dyedand i see a little wndow that says Closed
19:42.26DronAn[BY]:)
19:42.45she_dyedand he's still munching with something in his hand lol
19:43.03DronAn[BY]Italiano, are you from italy?
19:43.13Italianoyes
19:43.22DronAn[BY]Where from?
19:43.29DronAn[BY]Nord?
19:43.33she_dyedFiorenza?
19:43.52DronAn[BY]My wife in Bologhna now
19:44.03DronAn[BY]or how it named :)
19:44.07she_dyedbusiness?
19:44.13DronAn[BY]Working
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19:44.15DronAn[BY]:(
19:44.32ItachiHola
19:44.33DronAn[BY]And i can't get a visa :(
19:45.43DronAn[BY]they don't like Belarussian (because of  our stupid prezident)
19:46.04DronAn[BY]she_dyed, see gobby?
19:46.12ItachiThanatermesis, una ayuda please :)
19:46.18keyraDronAn[BY]: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's
19:47.44Itachiyo estado leyendo "The Ewl Book" (en español) e intente compilar el ejemplo (una ventana simple) y me sale errores :(
19:49.59Thanatermesisbuf
19:50.01Thanatermesisolvida eso Itachi
19:50.05Thanatermesisewl is deprecated
19:50.06Thanatermesisabandonado
19:50.07Thanatermesisviejo
19:50.08Thanatermesiscrap
19:50.30Itachicomo asi :o
19:50.33ThanatermesisItachi,  http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoEFL
19:50.36Thanatermesiseso mejor
19:51.12Itachiah..
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20:00.05twiggzIll be damned
20:00.49twiggzI spend all this time upgrading openbsd kernel, xenocara, and the base system and start on e17 and today they decide to release obsd 4.6
20:01.27twiggzi swear to jesus that last night that site said nothing about 4.6, yet today it says it was released 2 days ago..
20:01.31twiggzlol
20:01.38she_dyedwhat luck
20:03.35twiggzdownloads new iso
20:04.04twiggzno use in going through the damn trouble of watching shit build all over again...i havent got anything of mine on this system yet lol
20:05.27Itachitwiggz, which version of E17 has on your obsd?
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20:06.13ItachiHola :)
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20:06.28wasynytgood evening Itachi
20:07.07Itachigood evening wasynyt
20:07.20wasynythow are you doing
20:07.38twiggzalot older than elives..
20:07.45twiggzlol
20:07.57wasynytgood evening PrinceAMD
20:08.21PrinceAMDgood evening wasynyt :) how is it going?
20:08.27wasynytquite well
20:08.32she_dyedheya PrinceAMD
20:08.42wasynytand you PrinceAMD ?
20:08.50PrinceAMDhey she_dyed
20:09.08PrinceAMDwell not so good i was forced to sleep from 6:00AM to 3:00
20:09.11PrinceAMDPM
20:09.22wasynytforced to sleep?
20:09.24PrinceAMDwell i went to bed about 6:00 this morning
20:09.30PrinceAMDwasynyt, yes forced :)
20:09.42wasynyt:P
20:09.43PrinceAMDfrom 9:00am to 4:00pm we had BLACKOUT
20:09.56she_dyedyou're not a patient now are you
20:09.56she_dyedAGGGH
20:10.16wasynytPrinceAMD, do you often get blackouts
20:10.52Thanatermesistwiggz, not previous announcement of 4.6 ? bad bad
20:10.54PrinceAMDwasynyt, these fast few weeks yes, the power company is moving to a new generator i think
20:11.18ThanatermesisElive will say "2 week remaining for 2.0!!!!" :)
20:12.13wasynyt\o/
20:12.31wasynytPrinceAMD, that sounds like a lot of blackouts
20:12.42PrinceAMDyep :/
20:12.53PrinceAMDThanatermesis, 2 weeks!!!
20:12.58ItachiThanatermesis, la 1.0 se llama "Gem" es cierto ?
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20:13.08Itachicomo se llama la 2.0 ?
20:17.33Itachivaya el precio minimo esta subiendo xD
20:18.04panishque onda
20:18.16Itachisalut panish, Hola :)
20:18.30panishhola itachi
20:18.34panishde donde sos?
20:18.44keyrapanish: que tal ?
20:19.00ItachiPerú :s
20:19.16panishbien por aqui recien instalando el elive
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20:19.30Itachi:)
20:19.41panishpero veo que mi maquina es poco para esta distro
20:20.08panishhola keyra
20:20.21keyrapanish: hola
20:20.45panishde donde sos
20:20.51Itachikeyra es la bot de #elive :)
20:21.02panishhahahaha
20:21.03panishahhaha
20:21.05keyraItachi: you think so?
20:21.07panishhahaha
20:21.13panishhaahah
20:21.16panishLOL
20:21.18panishno sabia eso
20:21.22panishxD
20:21.54panishque version del elive tenes itachi
20:21.59Itachichau chicos con buen gusto !
20:22.09Itachiarrivedersi !
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20:53.37ThanatermesisItachi, aun no hay nombre
20:56.19Itachiah..
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21:49.04Elive_user58_ruThanatermesis, ping
21:49.22she_dyedheh 'the drive is too slow! You will experience performance problems'
21:49.33she_dyedso much for recycling drives
21:49.38Elive_user58_ruNurse mode?
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21:50.23ThanatermesisElive_user58_ru, pong
21:50.28Elive_user58_ruLook
21:50.38Elive_user58_ruThis is DronAn
21:50.41Elive_user58_ru:)
21:50.50Elive_user58_rugo in PV
21:51.40eciujSukini non
21:53.31ThanatermesisElive_user58_ru, sorry, talk from here, my mouse is charging and so i dont have alt + number to your PV
21:53.42ThanatermesisElive_user58_ru, we dont have upgraded it finally
21:54.19Thanatermesismmmh, my mouse should be fully charged now, there's more than 30 minutes charging...
21:54.32Elive_user58_ru:)
21:54.52she_dyedthana bluetooth mouse?
21:56.26Thanatermesisshe_dyed, yes, well, these mouse without cable
21:56.36Thanatermesisbut it sucks one battery per day :/
21:56.36DronAn[BY]So
21:56.43DronAn[BY]:)
21:56.48Thanatermesisfortunately i dont need "that much" a mouse for work :)
21:56.50keyraThanatermesis: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
21:56.54DronAn[BY]Have you read my messages?
21:57.02Thanatermesisthe only bad thing is for copypaste and for positioning windows under the desktop
21:57.15ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], no, i dont have mouse, i can't access to that chat number :)
21:57.16keyraThanatermesis: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
21:57.31DronAn[BY]not yet?
21:57.33DronAn[BY]ok
21:57.43DronAn[BY]you'll read it later
21:57.49Thanatermesisok
21:57.51DronAn[BY]wil you?
21:57.53DronAn[BY]:)
21:57.54she_dyedthana use keybindings for the most common ones :)
21:57.55Thanatermesismouse still eating electricity :)
21:58.11DronAn[BY]she_dyed, ;)
21:58.15Thanatermesisshe_dyed, of course!, lots faster than mouse :)
21:58.20she_dyedi was able to use Alt left for shading left
21:58.30she_dyedi thought shade left was obsolete
21:58.34she_dyedor shade right
21:58.41Thanatermesisctrl + alt + r ?
21:58.52she_dyedonly upwards
21:59.12she_dyedthen i bound to see shade left worked!
21:59.21she_dyedsimilar action
21:59.39she_dyedeven on a pixel border
22:00.21she_dyedwatch out with focus switch or else unshade will need a mouse refocus
22:01.17she_dyedi wonder why nobody designs left or right side titlebars on e17 when those actions still work
22:02.07Thanatermesise16 has side titlebars, also side slidings
22:02.57she_dyedunfortunately most themes for e16 look 90s now
22:03.01Elive_user58_ruDronAn[BY],
22:03.41she_dyedexcept lucax and detour and that other one
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22:04.57LiquiDzOrhey guys
22:05.07LiquiDzOras always: nice job!! :P
22:05.43LiquiDzOrim downloading the adobe air installer, last time i tried to make it run it gave me problems, do any of you have a suggestion to make it work?
22:05.47DronAn[BY]LiquiDzOr, Hello
22:06.10LiquiDzOrhi DronAn[BY] :)
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22:11.48she_dyedLiquiDzOr: was there a download for linux?
22:12.10LiquiDzOryup
22:12.50LiquiDzOrlast time i tried it ran "well" but when i installed an air application it couldnt work :S
22:13.04LiquiDzOrim giving it a shot right now
22:13.33LiquiDzOralready installed air with "no problems"...im currently downloading tweetdeck to see if it works this time
22:24.43LiquiDzOroh crap
22:24.51DronAn[BY]:(
22:24.52LiquiDzOrshe_dyed, that thing crashed :(
22:25.06LiquiDzOr:(
22:25.11DronAn[BY]what is Air?
22:26.08LiquiDzOrits some kind of a framework made by adobe that lets u use the applications directly from the server (as far as i know)
22:26.29DronAn[BY]oo
22:26.32DronAn[BY]I see
22:26.35DronAn[BY]now
22:26.54DronAn[BY]You trying to play some game?
22:27.08DronAn[BY]I saw art. today about it :)
22:27.20she_dyedthink its more for web use like blogs/tweets
22:27.28LiquiDzOrnope, i just want to run a nice twitter/facebook client
22:30.34LiquiDzOrfor games i recommend world of goo, urban terror and frets on fire :D
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