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| 00:01.24 | Elive_user | :PP |
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| 00:20.12 | kingdon | ooh |
| 00:20.13 | kingdon | is learning about interface coding and callbacks |
| 00:20.14 | kingdon | ncurses is fun |
| 00:26.30 | LinuxNIT | does it make your curse a lot? |
| 00:26.58 | LinuxNIT | sorry... terrible joke i know |
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| 00:29.35 | kingdon | lol |
| 00:29.38 | kingdon | actually no |
| 00:29.44 | kingdon | the api reference is very well organized |
| 00:29.49 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 00:29.55 | kingdon | ferite/modules/curses |
| 00:30.05 | LinuxNIT | likes well organized apis |
| 00:30.23 | kingdon | how many things do you need to manipulate a TTY screen? |
| 00:30.26 | kingdon | we give you all of them |
| 00:30.41 | kingdon | and a buttload of constants |
| 00:30.45 | kingdon | *dump* |
| 00:31.14 | kingdon | trying to decide how much information I can pollute into the whitespace in my euchre game |
| 00:31.19 | kingdon | i have 80x24 to work with :o |
| 00:31.49 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 00:31.59 | kingdon | if anyone's actually going to download and run this crap |
| 00:32.07 | kingdon | or visit the webpage with AjaxTERM |
| 00:32.09 | kingdon | or whatever |
| 00:32.21 | kingdon | they're going to have to enjoy some of my advertising :D |
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| 00:38.07 | Elive_user83_en | hey guys... quick question... it says on 1.9.51 that "No CD required:" but it does not explain on really how to - I booted few times from fromiso option but it did not like content of cd... eventhough checksum is good... so it does not really work... do I need to untar copy iso content on hd? and do a usb type of boot? i really am trying to avoid messing with grub... mbr record |
| 00:38.21 | keyra | Elive_user83_en: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 00:39.13 | LinuxNIT | Thanatermesis can you help Elive_user83_en |
| 00:40.22 | Elive_user83_en | thanks LinuxNIT |
| 00:40.38 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user83_en, after to install Elive in your computer, you ahve in the menus "administration" an option that is for that |
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| 00:41.39 | Elive_user83_en | ohh, i did not even know this was here... cool... i did create manually for 1.9.50 |
| 00:42.16 | Elive_user83_en | but since 1.9.51 specificly said... no cd required I thought i can somehow bypass copying it to usb... adding entry to grub etc |
| 00:42.45 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 00:42.49 | Thanatermesis | you can boot an Elive iso from a usb |
| 00:42.55 | Thanatermesis | but this feature is other thing |
| 00:43.02 | Thanatermesis | suppose that you have an Elive installed |
| 00:43.08 | Thanatermesis | and you want to install a new version of Elive |
| 00:43.19 | Thanatermesis | so with this feature your computer will boot the live mode from your hard disk, basically |
| 00:44.16 | Elive_user83_en | thats exactly what I want |
| 00:44.32 | Thanatermesis | so which version of Elive you have ? |
| 00:44.36 | Elive_user83_en | ok... i will not waste more of your time. I know how to do it via usb so not a big deal |
| 00:44.39 | Elive_user83_en | i have 50 |
| 00:44.41 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 00:44.45 | Elive_user83_en | want to install .51 |
| 00:44.49 | Thanatermesis | so just: apt-get install upgrade-elive |
| 00:44.53 | Thanatermesis | and you have it :) |
| 00:45.01 | Elive_user83_en | ohh, even better... so cool. |
| 00:45.03 | keyra | Thanatermesis: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 00:45.20 | Elive_user83_en | one last question... I had .42 compiz... and was unable to really upgrade it to .50 |
| 00:45.30 | Elive_user83_en | i installed it fresh... but kept my /home |
| 00:45.38 | Elive_user83_en | now some strange things are happening... |
| 00:45.45 | Elive_user83_en | cube stopped working etc |
| 00:46.01 | Elive_user83_en | is there something u know that I need to update? under .* ? |
| 00:47.14 | Thanatermesis | enter in #elive-compiz and read the topic :) |
| 00:47.16 | Elive_user83_en | in other words... my question is... can I upgrade compiz version to .50? or if I like compiz... I should stay with compiz version? |
| 00:47.18 | Elive_user83_en | s |
| 00:47.32 | Elive_user83_en | ok |
| 00:48.29 | Elive_user83_en | many thanks!!! this is best system on earth... even after checking out widoshit7... they have so much they can learn from elieve |
| 00:49.27 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 00:50.42 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user83_en, that's the topic of #elive-compiz: From 1.9.51 iso it is included the new and definitive Compiz implementation, use this option better, merged on the normal Elive, to use it just enable the Ecomorph module in E17 |
| 00:51.25 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis? |
| 00:51.34 | Thanatermesis | DammitJim, ? |
| 00:55.04 | DammitJim | do you have .52 for me? |
| 01:10.18 | kingdon | i gave up elive on my eeepc |
| 01:10.31 | kingdon | it's too much running the whole system from an SD card |
| 01:11.08 | Thanatermesis | kingdon, SSD or SD ? |
| 01:11.17 | kingdon | debian-lxde-eeepc + openbox now |
| 01:11.20 | kingdon | Thanatermesis: SD |
| 01:11.27 | kingdon | Thanatermesis: i have the 701 2G model |
| 01:11.33 | Thanatermesis | that is SSD not SD |
| 01:11.35 | kingdon | there's not enough disk to install elive |
| 01:11.45 | kingdon | so hence, i have to boot the system from "usb card reader" |
| 01:11.47 | Thanatermesis | FALSE ! |
| 01:11.50 | keyra | kingdon: You don't know how install Elive? Honey... is not that hard...! Just click the Install-icon in the Docker! |
| 01:11.51 | kingdon | where i have 4g available |
| 01:11.52 | Thanatermesis | there is, now :) |
| 01:12.04 | keyra | kingdon: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 01:12.06 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 01:12.07 | Thanatermesis | let me show you |
| 01:12.08 | kingdon | since when? |
| 01:12.12 | kingdon | after .48? |
| 01:12.15 | kingdon | or you need to munge it somehow |
| 01:12.44 | Thanatermesis | kingdon, open the description of this video and read it :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMbRjnWLezM |
| 01:13.52 | kingdon | now, with gzipped reiserfs :D |
| 01:13.53 | kingdon | aha |
| 01:14.43 | Thanatermesis | * Compressed Filesystem: If you have a computer with a tiny hard disk (like EeePC 2gb SSD), you can now install Elive using a compressed filesystem so that the entire system will fit in 1 GB. Anything that you will put on it will be directly compressed on the fly and in realtime. |
| 01:15.01 | Thanatermesis | kingdon, that's writed in the last News announcement in the Elive website, just released today! |
| 01:15.15 | kingdon | i've got elive on the desktop next to me |
| 01:15.18 | Thanatermesis | just using your example :) |
| 01:15.22 | kingdon | i'm surprised I didn't find out about that already |
| 01:15.51 | kingdon | i noticed when the compressed disk support went in |
| 01:15.53 | kingdon | didn't realize tho |
| 01:15.55 | kingdon | cool :D |
| 01:16.02 | kingdon | i need to get a stack of these |
| 01:16.13 | kingdon | for computer science house |
| 01:16.17 | kingdon | for the user center |
| 01:16.28 | kingdon | for emm ... poker playing |
| 01:16.29 | kingdon | i guess |
| 01:17.00 | kingdon | ever read about "Cherokee Project" web server? they were giving away "2 eeepc 701's" to the lucky winner |
| 01:17.04 | kingdon | like maybe two years ago |
| 01:17.12 | kingdon | that was a pretty good prize |
| 01:17.16 | Thanatermesis | <kingdon> i noticed when the compressed disk support went in |
| 01:17.18 | Thanatermesis | 2004 |
| 01:17.25 | kingdon | Thanatermesis: into the installer |
| 01:17.30 | Thanatermesis | ah well :) |
| 01:17.33 | Thanatermesis | that's not that far |
| 01:17.35 | kingdon | last week or so :) |
| 01:17.40 | Thanatermesis | just a 2-3 versions of Elive ago |
| 01:17.51 | kingdon | have you got a lot of funding for this? |
| 01:18.19 | Thanatermesis | what you mean ? |
| 01:18.20 | kingdon | it must be your full time job |
| 01:18.25 | kingdon | with release cycle pace you keep up |
| 01:18.35 | kingdon | or maybe you've got an excellent team |
| 01:18.44 | kingdon | or an impressive pile of shell scripts |
| 01:20.01 | Thanatermesis | the release cicle is actually bad, there's too much time waiting for 2.0, but will come soon :) |
| 01:20.12 | Thanatermesis | after 2.0 i hope to have a better management of releases planning |
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| 01:24.37 | sundro | Thanatermesis, i am not sure what is your role but you seem very knoledgeble ... so if you have access to developers.. i have two recommendations - one - when it checks and find old system instead of 'cancel' for fresh install and 'ok' for upgrade i would name those buttons upgrade and fresh install respectivly... second more improtant... first it goes and cleans old system before it verifies if cd is good... It should be reversed... |
| 01:26.24 | sundro | yei... .51 was successfully installed. :) thanks for your help! |
| 01:26.56 | kingdon | how many folks do you estimate are using Elive? |
| 01:27.17 | kingdon | or do you keep statistics on that with the identity tool somehow |
| 01:27.17 | sundro | i 'unplugged' at least 10 |
| 01:27.33 | kingdon | sundro: brought them to jesus, you mean? :D |
| 01:27.34 | kingdon | lol |
| 01:27.53 | sundro | lol yup... enlightened them in true meaning |
| 01:27.56 | sundro | :) |
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| 01:46.36 | kingdon | have we got any EFL programmers? |
| 01:47.44 | kingdon | or, who should I blame for the constant updates to lenny/efl repo on elive-systems.com |
| 01:47.58 | keyra | kingdon: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 01:48.13 | kingdon | a build robot? |
| 01:51.32 | Thanatermesis | kingdon, which thing you want to blame about efl ? |
| 01:59.04 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: blame everything! |
| 01:59.12 | elmo40 | nothing is compatible with past versions |
| 01:59.15 | elmo40 | it is crazy |
| 01:59.40 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 01:59.42 | elmo40 | as if they begin anew every time! that is not a way to go forward... call it 'spinning their tires' |
| 02:00.00 | Thanatermesis | cat elmo40's message to #e |
| 02:01.26 | elmo40 | found another multi-user editor. |
| 02:01.28 | elmo40 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoonEdit |
| 02:01.32 | elmo40 | but OLD |
| 02:01.34 | elmo40 | and ugly :P |
| 02:02.02 | elmo40 | they guy started it with a way to have a live chat. |
| 02:03.09 | elmo40 | that is why I asked for the port, Thanatermesis |
| 02:03.15 | elmo40 | I wanted to see if it would try to connect ;) |
| 02:04.31 | Thanatermesis | would like to have multi-user editor in vim |
| 02:05.32 | elmo40 | that would be cool |
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| 02:17.21 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: moonedit was the 'parent' to the creation of gobby! seems like a bunch of people wanted moonedit to be open source but the guy said 'screw you'. |
| 02:17.36 | keyra | elmo40: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's |
| 02:18.34 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 02:23.20 | elmo40 | so they started testing with libobby and used c++ |
| 02:23.30 | elmo40 | now, they are basically the only ones! |
| 02:24.08 | elmo40 | there was something called Chalks, but that didn't get anywhere. they wanted a web-based concept. do it all though a browser |
| 02:25.33 | elmo40 | ok, found something... http://etherpad.com/ |
| 02:27.38 | elmo40 | well, I guess the Mozilla Labs has been busy! http://labs.mozilla.com/bespin/ |
| 02:30.21 | elmo40 | and it rocks! |
| 02:30.35 | elmo40 | web-based programming editor |
| 02:30.44 | elmo40 | syntax hilighting |
| 02:35.30 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, useless if dont has vim features :) |
| 02:45.16 | elmo40 | such as? |
| 02:46.06 | elmo40 | how about drawing? http://drawpile.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:47.15 | elmo40 | as per EVERY linux app... it starts off with huge potential but DIES. |
| 02:48.34 | Thanatermesis | looks good :) |
| 02:48.43 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, well, vim has 2 improtant things: handy and powerful |
| 02:48.56 | Thanatermesis | so, is very hand and FAST to develop with it |
| 02:49.03 | Thanatermesis | and is very powerful and ulimited |
| 02:49.15 | Thanatermesis | now, imagine a plain editor without options or buttons... everything manually |
| 02:50.26 | elmo40 | ok, ok. so a collaborative VIM styled app... with a built in music stream from the host server! ;) |
| 02:53.19 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, the thing could be a PLUGIN that you can use in any desired editor |
| 02:53.37 | Thanatermesis | s/could/should/ |
| 02:56.18 | elmo40 | I didn't know apt corrected linse |
| 02:56.26 | elmo40 | s/linse/lines |
| 02:56.36 | elmo40 | but maybe only to specific people? |
| 02:57.33 | Thanatermesis | you missed a character /, your command is wrong :) |
| 02:57.51 | Thanatermesis | s/\//backslash/ |
| 02:58.01 | Thanatermesis | s/\\//backslash/ |
| 02:58.04 | Thanatermesis | s/\\\//backslash/ |
| 02:58.06 | Thanatermesis | s///backslash/ |
| 02:58.06 | elmo40 | I see |
| 02:58.22 | elmo40 | /\/\\\///\\\///w00t |
| 02:58.29 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 02:58.32 | Thanatermesis | s/no/yes/ |
| 02:58.37 | elmo40 | :P |
| 02:58.43 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:58.47 | she_dyed | yeahconsole is in synaptic :) |
| 02:58.51 | elmo40 | I still have issues with gobby and windows |
| 02:59.05 | keyra | elmo40: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's |
| 02:59.24 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, windows has always issues |
| 03:00.39 | elmo40 | I have to admit, win7 is MUCH better then XP |
| 03:03.04 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: can you test something with me? |
| 03:03.09 | elmo40 | this 'drawpile' app |
| 03:03.17 | elmo40 | is it in the deb repo? |
| 03:04.25 | elmo40 | she_dyed: can you check for me? |
| 03:04.27 | elmo40 | drawpile |
| 03:04.55 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, not in the repo |
| 03:07.57 | elmo40 | damn. |
| 03:07.57 | elmo40 | ok |
| 03:08.05 | elmo40 | wow, take a look at this! |
| 03:08.08 | elmo40 | http://alternativeto.net/desktop/vim/ |
| 03:08.27 | elmo40 | see what they figure an alterative to Vim is? |
| 03:08.27 | elmo40 | DreamWeaver :P |
| 03:11.30 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 03:11.32 | Thanatermesis | fun page |
| 03:11.35 | Thanatermesis | bookmarks for Elive |
| 03:11.59 | elmo40 | a very nice page |
| 03:12.06 | elmo40 | better then osalt |
| 03:16.03 | elmo40 | I like drawpile! |
| 03:16.09 | elmo40 | you should get it, Thanatermesis. |
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| 06:33.25 | NathanExplosion | hey guys |
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| 07:56.17 | n0mad | hello, Thanatermesis, as i did earlir evening; that new upgrade mode fail: i see error cannot find base system, firstly after rebooting there wasnt any notes at menu.lst; i fixed that by taking from iso grub drib; rebooted and elive cannot find base system it shows many partition off all my 3hards...and gives no options just initfarm or something... |
| 07:56.31 | keyra | n0mad: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb |
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| 07:57.59 | n0mad | i must notice that my testing elive, that i was trying to upgrade is on logical partition, earlier for elive that was something that caused problems hm, i go to go will see here later |
| 07:58.14 | keyra | n0mad: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
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| 09:54.43 | she_dyed | damm all my favorites are turning up in synaptic |
| 09:54.58 | she_dyed | somethings wrong, they're all there! w00t! |
| 09:56.41 | she_dyed | yeahconsole, dvtm, conky <-- lets see how good it is |
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| 10:15.19 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis, on the news page, please make 'You can found' to 'You can find' otherwise the news is perfect ! |
| 10:20.48 | she_dyed | I was thinking maybe catalan needs a brief description? |
| 10:21.34 | she_dyed | and Kernel version can be bolded, some people want to see 2.6.30 for sure :) |
| 10:29.48 | Ychoucha | she_dyed what new page? |
| 10:30.08 | she_dyed | when i logged in there's news from Elive |
| 10:30.12 | she_dyed | so the Elive news page |
| 10:30.24 | Ychoucha | ? |
| 10:30.29 | Ychoucha | the web site? |
| 10:30.50 | she_dyed | dont you get the little window at login? |
| 10:30.56 | she_dyed | yes Elive news site |
| 10:31.15 | she_dyed | not home page, click on news from the home page |
| 10:31.22 | Ychoucha | humm i have no change on the web site>??? |
| 10:31.36 | Ychoucha | http://www.elivecd.org/ |
| 10:31.40 | she_dyed | click on link to NEWS |
| 10:31.52 | she_dyed | on the left iirc |
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| 10:33.24 | Ychoucha | can u give me direct link, please i can't found it? |
| 10:34.34 | she_dyed | http://www.elivecd.org/Main/News |
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| 10:58.59 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Hello world |
| 10:59.09 | she_dyed | hey there DronAn[BY]_eeepc how are ya |
| 10:59.27 | she_dyed | japan theme has been updated w00t |
| 11:00.01 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Hi Hi :) not bad. yourself? |
| 11:00.18 | she_dyed | am good too, but will be better once i get off my ass and get coffee |
| 11:00.28 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
| 11:00.35 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Do it :) |
| 11:00.42 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Americano? |
| 11:01.07 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Or italiano espresso |
| 11:01.26 | she_dyed | american <-- I'm all about volume |
| 11:01.32 | she_dyed | quantity |
| 11:01.40 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
| 11:01.51 | she_dyed | i do have espresso sometimes when i go out with friends |
| 11:02.20 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | What kind of coffe do you have? |
| 11:02.43 | she_dyed | its a brand here called Maxwell House, they do a 'French roast' flavor |
| 11:03.01 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Maxwell House |
| 11:03.06 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | We know that |
| 11:03.13 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | I do not like this one |
| 11:03.19 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
| 11:03.27 | she_dyed | dont get the instant one |
| 11:03.28 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | I like Lavazzo |
| 11:03.33 | she_dyed | oh, espresso? |
| 11:03.34 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Yes |
| 11:03.47 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | NO instant |
| 11:03.51 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | anyway |
| 11:03.59 | she_dyed | when i get a regular job i will try out other kinds |
| 11:04.09 | she_dyed | only have part time for now |
| 11:04.10 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Lavazzo mostly Yes Espresso |
| 11:04.33 | she_dyed | you have special espresso maker at home? |
| 11:04.36 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | she_dyed, you are not employed? |
| 11:04.44 | she_dyed | part time job only |
| 11:04.57 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | I've espresso maker |
| 11:04.59 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | But |
| 11:05.31 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | I'm just add a boil water in the cap with a coffe |
| 11:05.33 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
| 11:05.46 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | And wait for few minut |
| 11:06.12 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | It take only 30 sec. to make cup of coffe |
| 11:06.22 | she_dyed | secret method by DronAn[BY]_eeepc eh? |
| 11:06.30 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | No |
| 11:06.39 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | It is common in the Europe |
| 11:06.53 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Not in italy i think :) |
| 11:06.53 | she_dyed | so its almost instant |
| 11:07.21 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Yes |
| 11:07.27 | she_dyed | brb making some |
| 11:07.36 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | from natural :) |
| 11:07.51 | she_dyed | do you know what catalan is, elive news mentions |
| 11:07.57 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | But put boiling water |
| 11:08.09 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | No |
| 11:08.12 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | i do not |
| 11:09.07 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | http://distrowatch.com/ WOOOW |
| 11:10.45 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | But what is catalan . Khmm |
| 11:11.08 | LinuxNIT | a language |
| 11:11.22 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Khmmm |
| 11:11.59 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Italy? |
| 11:12.16 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Oh yes |
| 11:12.18 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | I see |
| 11:12.44 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Spoken in Spain Spain |
| 11:12.44 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | France France |
| 11:12.44 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Italy Italy |
| 11:12.44 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Andorra Andorra |
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| 11:26.05 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | she_dyed, How is the coffe? |
| 11:26.15 | she_dyed | mmmmMMMMM yum |
| 11:26.32 | she_dyed | i think that is the same in russian language :) |
| 11:26.32 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | on new way? |
| 11:26.40 | she_dyed | i have it here |
| 11:26.41 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | mmmmm Yes |
| 11:26.45 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
| 11:27.09 | she_dyed | i just restored e17, now to do keybinds |
| 11:27.44 | she_dyed | i set pause and scroll lock to volume up and down (they're next to each other) |
| 11:28.52 | she_dyed | instant multimedia keyboard :) |
| 11:29.03 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :0 |
| 11:29.25 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | can you point me on "japane theme" |
| 11:29.41 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | please |
| 11:30.01 | she_dyed | http://exchange.enlightenment.org/theme/show/2493 |
| 11:30.08 | she_dyed | no problem mate enjoy! |
| 11:30.32 | she_dyed | this guy does good themes from zazazoo's pieces |
| 11:30.55 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Thanks |
| 11:31.22 | she_dyed | i sent him a suggestion tho |
| 11:31.33 | she_dyed | hope he replies |
| 11:33.35 | she_dyed | he has made a LOT of themes in e17-stuff.org |
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| 11:36.31 | elmo401 | she_dyed: mornin' |
| 11:36.45 | she_dyed | heya elmo401 o/ |
| 11:36.49 | she_dyed | how are ya |
| 11:36.56 | she_dyed | we got lot of folks here |
| 11:37.08 | elmo401 | nice theme (japan) |
| 11:37.15 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Yes |
| 11:37.19 | elmo401 | so, about the News... |
| 11:37.21 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | This is perfect |
| 11:37.22 | she_dyed | i told him to make another set of borders |
| 11:37.29 | elmo401 | I don't see the word 'made' |
| 11:37.31 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Oh yes |
| 11:37.52 | she_dyed | in news? elmo401 ? |
| 11:38.14 | elmo401 | ya, not there |
| 11:39.25 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | elmo40, made what? |
| 11:40.53 | she_dyed | hmmm is that correct, ssd on eeepc is only 2G |
| 11:41.08 | AlexAnteee | depends on the model |
| 11:41.26 | she_dyed | i thought the lowest SSD there was 4G |
| 11:41.31 | she_dyed | i see |
| 11:41.52 | AlexAnteee | the most common 7" model is the 701 4G. |
| 11:42.10 | AlexAnteee | its got 4GB ssd |
| 11:42.10 | she_dyed | and that is SSD or regular drive |
| 11:42.13 | she_dyed | oh |
| 11:42.40 | she_dyed | hmm maybe thana should mention minimum RAM for toram option |
| 11:42.53 | AlexAnteee | this "Mother of all Netbooks" dosnt have a standard hdd but a ssd due to it's great shock-resistance. |
| 11:44.15 | she_dyed | if I wanted to compile on Elive, i install gcc and what else |
| 11:44.15 | she_dyed | make |
| 11:44.19 | she_dyed | keyra should tell me this >:-| |
| 11:44.30 | AlexAnteee | The idea behind those tiny laptops are to offer cheap computers for 3rd world |
| 11:44.45 | AlexAnteee | lol.. that depends. |
| 11:44.59 | she_dyed | they WERE going to be cheap, until MS had to do their BS |
| 11:45.07 | AlexAnteee | bs? |
| 11:45.14 | she_dyed | (up the HW spec and we'll supply the OS ) |
| 11:45.26 | AlexAnteee | whats bs? |
| 11:45.32 | she_dyed | bullsht |
| 11:45.37 | AlexAnteee | k |
| 11:46.05 | AlexAnteee | I'd like to sell computers with elive preinstalled |
| 11:46.55 | she_dyed | maybe hook up with the guy that wrote DSL, he sells hardware |
| 11:47.32 | she_dyed | but in damm small rigs |
| 11:47.46 | she_dyed | even for cars |
| 11:48.09 | she_dyed | the last choice would then be the USB stick--DSL or ELive? |
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| 11:51.42 | elmo40 | lol, something wrong with this page? :P http://www.elivecd.org/login |
| 12:00.10 | she_dyed | is that the same one as in the themes/exchange page? |
| 12:00.22 | she_dyed | it kept giving me wrong password/username |
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| 12:05.48 | elmo40 | ya |
| 12:05.57 | elmo40 | the modx login is the wrong one. |
| 12:06.13 | elmo40 | something like http://elivecd.org/manage/maintenance or something |
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| 12:06.53 | she_dyed | i was going to comment but i went to e17-stuff.org, the japan update wasnt there yet |
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| 12:27.15 | Elive_user49_it | aiuto, dov'è la posta in sto sistema operativoooooooo??? |
| 12:28.14 | DammitJim | Thanatermesis, ping |
| 12:29.15 | Elive_user49_it | dammit mi hai risposto? |
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| 13:45.42 | diroots | hello all |
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| 13:48.11 | LinuxNIT | hello diroots |
| 13:49.05 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 13:49.12 | AlexAnteMachina | Elive_user4_en, wink mal! |
| 13:49.14 | AlexAnteMachina | o/ |
| 13:49.35 | AlexAnteMachina | Hey LinuxNIT |
| 13:49.59 | AlexAnteMachina | still working on smb-stuff? |
| 13:51.02 | LinuxNIT | a little here and there |
| 13:51.12 | LinuxNIT | added manual mount support to smb-browser |
| 13:51.23 | DammitJim | is Thana sleeping? |
| 13:51.26 | LinuxNIT | ie... type in the name of the server and share |
| 13:51.44 | LinuxNIT | DammitJim, dunno, but hes not online |
| 13:51.52 | AlexAnteMachina | guess he's coding. |
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| 13:53.05 | AlexAnteMachina | I got a nice idea for ecomorph. |
| 13:53.22 | diroots | is there an elive version for arm procs? |
| 13:53.31 | AlexAnteMachina | wasnt it watchwolf_ developing it? |
| 13:53.39 | AlexAnteMachina | diroots, no. |
| 13:53.45 | AlexAnteMachina | not as far as I know. |
| 13:53.53 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 13:53.57 | diroots | AlexAnteMachina: not planned? or requested? |
| 13:54.06 | LinuxNIT | AlexAnteMachina, i dont think so |
| 13:54.19 | AlexAnteMachina | there is debian available for arm, yes. but not elive. |
| 13:54.22 | LinuxNIT | watchwolf_, is developing exalt |
| 13:54.56 | watchwolf_ | AlexAnteMachina, yep |
| 13:55.04 | AlexAnteMachina | I thought he would do ecomorph, too. |
| 13:55.13 | watchwolf_ | nooo :p |
| 13:55.18 | AlexAnteMachina | :( |
| 13:55.53 | diroots | ok, thx guys |
| 13:56.05 | AlexAnteMachina | diroots, i never heard anybody asking for a arm-version |
| 13:57.43 | diroots | AlexAnteMachina: so i'll try to compil e17 on debian on it, hope, it will work |
| 13:58.21 | LinuxNIT | diroots, there are some repos for e17 for debian... they may have an arm version |
| 13:58.33 | LinuxNIT | i think they are listed on enlightenments site |
| 13:58.36 | keyra | LinuxNIT: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 13:59.08 | AlexAnteMachina | REVOLUTION! |
| 13:59.13 | AlexAnteMachina | Break your Systems! |
| 13:59.44 | diroots | LinuxNIT: thx, i go check |
| 14:03.49 | diroots | rasterman got a beagleboard (arm based)so, good news :) |
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| 15:03.13 | Elive_user67_fr | reuh |
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| 16:30.41 | DammitJim | thana! |
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| 16:55.03 | angeline | hi |
| 16:55.40 | DammitJim | welcome back, angeline |
| 16:56.36 | DammitJim | alright... I'm about to test the upgrade-elive feature... wish me luck! |
| 16:56.51 | keyra | DammitJim: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 16:57.09 | angeline | URGENT la version sur le CD de LINUX pratique N° 55 bloque completement le ventilateur de AAO |
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| 16:57.34 | DammitJim | angeline, you are still having problems with the fan in the laptop? |
| 16:59.18 | angeline | Infortunatly YES the fan don t work at all |
| 17:01.56 | angeline | Warning Elive 1.9.37 don't start the CPU Fan =============== |
| 17:02.49 | angeline | What is the name of the fan module in Kernel ??? |
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| 17:07.03 | Elive_user55_en | where the heck is thana? |
| 17:07.08 | Elive_user55_en | is anyone else running .51? |
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| 17:10.54 | angeline | HELP HELP HELP |
| 17:11.21 | DammitJim | brb |
| 17:12.13 | angeline | Elive is burning my AAO |
| 17:16.37 | LinuxNIT | modprobe fan acpi_cpufreq |
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| 17:17.03 | AlexAnteee | its burning what? |
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| 17:20.24 | angeline | [root ~]# FATAL: Error inserting fan (/lib/modules/2.6.26.8-elive-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/fan.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 17:20.38 | keyra | angeline: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 17:22.19 | angeline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.24 | angeline | 8GB of ram ??? |
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| 17:25.30 | AlexAnteee | ah.. forget it. keyra is just a bot. |
| 17:25.44 | keyra | AlexAnteee: you think so? |
| 17:25.51 | AlexAnteee | lol |
| 17:26.02 | n0mad | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.05 | AlexAnteee | keyra, database |
| 17:26.15 | keyra | n0mad: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb |
| 17:26.29 | keyra | AlexAnteee: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 17:26.37 | LinuxNIT | modprobe fan |
| 17:26.42 | LinuxNIT | modprobe acpi_cpufreq |
| 17:27.28 | LinuxNIT | it was my understanding that the bios told the fan when to come on and off |
| 17:29.38 | angeline | modprobe acpi_cpufreq and the fan START Thanks !!! |
| 17:30.01 | AlexAnteee | LinuxNIT knows A LOT! |
| 17:30.03 | angeline | But stop 5" later ??? |
| 17:30.13 | LinuxNIT | 5" ? |
| 17:30.22 | angeline | Five seconds |
| 17:30.24 | LinuxNIT | 5 inches? |
| 17:30.26 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 17:30.28 | AlexAnteee | lol |
| 17:30.29 | LinuxNIT | acpi -i |
| 17:30.30 | LinuxNIT | acpi -t |
| 17:30.33 | LinuxNIT | not -i |
| 17:30.43 | LinuxNIT | acpi -tf whats the temp? |
| 17:31.47 | angeline | acpi -t |
| 17:31.47 | angeline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.54 | angeline | ???? |
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| 17:32.17 | LinuxNIT | modprobe thermal |
| 17:32.29 | LinuxNIT | acpi -tf |
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| 17:36.08 | angeline | acpi -tf do not givr tempereatue ! |
| 17:36.10 | Gran_Ger | Hi there!!! |
| 17:36.51 | LinuxNIT | it could be your system will need an alternate method for getting the temp.... try installin glmsensors |
| 17:37.01 | LinuxNIT | acpi -tf DOES give temp on some systems |
| 17:37.08 | LinuxNIT | [david /media/Storage/programing/elive-svn/smb-browser]$ acpi -tf |
| 17:37.08 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.08 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.33 | Gran_Ger | I just Installed elive unstable 1.9.47 into this computer. And I usually see that into the modem-router home page |
| 17:37.52 | Gran_Ger | doesn't appears the host name of my computer. |
| 17:38.01 | LinuxNIT | *lmsensors |
| 17:39.06 | angeline | Sory too hot I switch off & go back to Kubuntu Bye |
| 17:39.44 | Gran_Ger | I guess something is missing, but I don't know what could it be. |
| 17:40.56 | LinuxNIT | what do you usually see? |
| 17:41.57 | Gran_Ger | With the another computers at the net, their hostname. With the Elive systems, the IP address. |
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| 19:07.39 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 19:07.53 | AlexAnteMachina | I thought elive came with Virtualbox |
| 19:12.31 | LinuxNIT | AlexAnteMachina, i believe it comes with virtualbox drivers installed so that it runs better in virtualbox |
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| 20:09.15 | Elive_user92 | marica de mierda |
| 20:09.35 | Elive_user92 | marica de la gran puta mierda |
| 20:09.38 | Elive_user92 | catre hp |
| 20:09.40 | Elive_user92 | jajaja |
| 20:09.45 | Itachi | :o |
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| 20:12.41 | Elive_user89_en | hello |
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| 20:37.01 | DammitJim | woohhoo... I upgraded... and it seems to have worked |
| 20:37.03 | DammitJim | let's see |
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| 20:39.51 | progma | hey how do i boot from the new iso without burning it onto cd and booting that |
| 20:39.57 | progma | No CD required: There is no need to burn the ISO on a cdrom anymore; you can easily install or reinstall with this method: simply point it to the ISO image on the hard drive and reboot to the latest one (from installed system). You can found this option in your Administration menu of applications. <== |
| 20:40.11 | progma | i do not see that in my administration menu of app |
| 20:40.18 | DammitJim | what version are you running? |
| 20:40.45 | DammitJim | progma, there is an upgrade utility |
| 20:40.50 | progma | elive-codename: Gem+ (development) |
| 20:40.50 | progma | elive-version: 1.9.36-compiz |
| 20:41.03 | DammitJim | oh, then progma you need to download upgrader-elive |
| 20:41.07 | progma | ok |
| 20:41.08 | DammitJim | I think that's what it is called |
| 20:41.17 | keyra | DammitJim: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 20:41.29 | progma | alright so total reinstall |
| 20:41.39 | DammitJim | progma, no not total reinstall |
| 20:41.43 | DammitJim | just download the iso |
| 20:41.46 | progma | i got the iso |
| 20:42.02 | DammitJim | ok |
| 20:42.10 | DammitJim | apt-get update && apt-get install upgrade-elive |
| 20:42.10 | progma | eliveinstaller-4g <-- is that it |
| 20:42.21 | progma | ah ok |
| 20:42.22 | DammitJim | once that is installed, I think as root, run |
| 20:42.24 | keyra | DammitJim: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 20:42.25 | DammitJim | upgrade-elive |
| 20:42.30 | DammitJim | shut up, keyra and kiss me |
| 20:42.34 | progma | keyra: yah i will just do that |
| 20:42.34 | DammitJim | ok, I have to jet in a bit |
| 20:42.44 | DammitJim | progma, keyra is just a bot... a hot bot |
| 20:42.44 | keyra | DammitJim: My database is available on http://main.elivecd.org/misc/keyra-database.txt , you are welcome to update me and send the changes to Thanatermesis |
| 20:42.58 | keyra | DammitJim: you think so? |
| 20:43.08 | DammitJim | oh yeah, baby! |
| 20:43.16 | progma | DammitJim: i'd rather not reinstall everything if i don't have to |
| 20:43.38 | progma | DammitJim: i guess i will try the upgrade and then see about a total reinstall |
| 20:44.04 | DammitJim | I just upgraded |
| 20:44.15 | DammitJim | from unstable .38 or something |
| 20:44.19 | DammitJim | so far so good |
| 20:44.22 | progma | yah but what about new features |
| 20:44.25 | DammitJim | but it'snot guaranteed |
| 20:44.32 | DammitJim | the new features will be installed |
| 20:44.44 | DammitJim | the problem is that even the upgrader might not port some software you had previously configured |
| 20:44.52 | progma | ok |
| 20:45.00 | progma | well here goes |
| 20:45.19 | progma | i mainly want to try out this boot-from-iso-image feature |
| 20:45.32 | progma | i don't remember being able to do that with any other linux distro |
| 20:46.48 | DammitJim | right |
| 20:50.04 | DammitJim | good luck |
| 20:50.05 | DammitJim | see ya |
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| 20:57.30 | progma | kernel panic |
| 20:57.37 | progma | :( |
| 21:03.49 | she_dyed | oh no |
| 21:04.04 | she_dyed | what happened before? |
| 21:05.30 | AlexAnteMachina | ahm... |
| 21:06.05 | AlexAnteMachina | anybody ever inserted audio-cd into his/her Computer? |
| 21:06.26 | progma | she_dyed: ? |
| 21:06.52 | she_dyed | the kernel panic |
| 21:07.10 | progma | she_dyed: i just downloaded the iso, installed the upgrade-elive and used that to point it to the iso image |
| 21:07.13 | progma | she_dyed: then rebooted |
| 21:07.24 | keyra | progma: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 21:09.23 | AlexAnteMachina | progma, but you just rebooted as soon as the upgrade-elive Tool told you to!? |
| 21:09.38 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 21:09.40 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: yah, that's the idea right |
| 21:09.45 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 21:09.56 | AlexAnteMachina | and what was the version already installed? |
| 21:10.00 | progma | maybe i should check the iso |
| 21:10.18 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: elive-codename: Gem+ (development) |
| 21:10.19 | progma | elive-version: 1.9.36-compiz |
| 21:10.36 | AlexAnteMachina | oh... 36-compiz.... |
| 21:11.04 | AlexAnteMachina | chances are really really good it's simply too old for having that feature working properly. |
| 21:11.05 | progma | yah it looks like the compiz and regular versions merged |
| 21:11.14 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: ok, i will do a full reinstall then |
| 21:11.33 | she_dyed | it was going to do that anyway |
| 21:11.35 | AlexAnteMachina | did you try to upgrade your 1.9.36 version by using dist-upgrade? |
| 21:11.49 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 21:11.50 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: i did but it busted my nvidia |
| 21:12.02 | progma | so i manually reinstalled nvidia-glx |
| 21:12.07 | she_dyed | that it wouldn't do compiz right? |
| 21:12.14 | AlexAnteMachina | DAMN! ANYBODY STOP KEYRA FROM TELLING THAT FUCKING SHIT ON AND ON PLEEEAAASEE!!! |
| 21:12.16 | progma | nor X |
| 21:12.20 | progma | haha |
| 21:12.24 | progma | just /ignore |
| 21:13.24 | she_dyed | there |
| 21:13.31 | she_dyed | i shushed her |
| 21:13.53 | she_dyed | at least on mine |
| 21:14.26 | AlexAnteMachina | progma, what nvidia card are you using? |
| 21:14.42 | AlexAnteMachina | is that a very special one? |
| 21:15.03 | AlexAnteMachina | Nvidia is pretty good supported by default. |
| 21:15.32 | AlexAnteMachina | I got a Geforce 6200 and it's working very nice. |
| 21:16.22 | she_dyed | put a second monitor on it alex |
| 21:16.45 | she_dyed | and then it will rule |
| 21:18.11 | AlexAnteMachina | y? |
| 21:18.29 | AlexAnteMachina | why will it rule ONLY if connected to 2 screens?? |
| 21:18.36 | progma | can you do more? |
| 21:18.54 | she_dyed | with a second card you can do 4 |
| 21:18.57 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1) |
| 21:19.07 | progma | oh i'd need another card |
| 21:19.24 | AlexAnteMachina | well, that's a nice device. |
| 21:19.24 | she_dyed | no, does it not have dual out on the back? |
| 21:19.26 | progma | i've heard about some people using the onboard + the nvidia |
| 21:20.18 | progma | it does have dual ports and i have 2 monitors hooked up to them :) |
| 21:20.23 | AlexAnteMachina | wowowow... that's pretty tricky using onboard + pci I guess. Isnt it!? |
| 21:20.30 | progma | so i do twinview 2560x1024 |
| 21:20.36 | progma | with 2 1280x1024 |
| 21:20.44 | progma | but i'm not using the onboard |
| 21:21.48 | AlexAnteMachina | mine can handle a second screen. But I'd need some kind of adaptor for using it... 2nd optional screen seems to be toooooo old. |
| 21:22.44 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg*... that fits! Right that moment Tom Waits telling me "Everything goes to hell!" |
| 21:23.21 | she_dyed | lol |
| 21:24.05 | she_dyed | progma, see if the BIOS supports having both active at the same time? I havent seen it done like that |
| 21:24.08 | progma | let me tell you, elive with fully tricked ecomorph on 2560x1024 is beautiful |
| 21:24.14 | progma | she_dyed: yah i've been meaning to try |
| 21:24.16 | AlexAnteMachina | Guess I'd bet my Backpack and go to hell, too. |
| 21:24.27 | she_dyed | a weekend trip only alex |
| 21:24.28 | progma | but i'm a bit concerned about hosing my current setup |
| 21:24.50 | she_dyed | do it only when you are moving to an upgrade progma |
| 21:24.57 | AlexAnteMachina | to me ecomorph is a pain. |
| 21:25.01 | progma | yah i try not to change too much at once |
| 21:25.18 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: i figure if i'm gonna have a decent video card i might as well work it |
| 21:25.27 | she_dyed | progma, i have 3040x1024 and I change the background to a movie or a clip :) |
| 21:25.28 | progma | it's my work workstation |
| 21:25.42 | keyra | she_dyed: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 21:25.51 | AlexAnteMachina | lol ... work workstation. |
| 21:25.54 | AlexAnteMachina | nice term. |
| 21:25.56 | progma | i recently discovered the slideshow gadget |
| 21:25.59 | progma | so i've been using that |
| 21:26.13 | progma | she_dyed: i should try that; is it choppy |
| 21:26.21 | progma | i dunno what movie to put up though |
| 21:26.29 | progma | i think that would be distracting |
| 21:26.35 | she_dyed | no just a clip like this: |
| 21:26.54 | AlexAnteMachina | try using this IBM linux ad coming with elive. |
| 21:27.13 | she_dyed | http://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/52489/brain-mov.html |
| 21:29.29 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, is there some list of minimum-specs for running ecomorph? |
| 21:30.06 | she_dyed | hmmm i havent seen any, since the first one came out |
| 21:30.20 | AlexAnteMachina | too bad. |
| 21:30.44 | progma | AlexAnteMachina: which ad, or is it not out yet |
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| 21:30.52 | progma | i like the novell ones that kind of spoof the mac/pc ads |
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| 21:31.08 | progma | the linux girl is actually ok looking |
| 21:31.08 | AlexAnteMachina | I'd like to know wether the hardware I got is really able to handle ecomorph. |
| 21:31.40 | she_dyed | you remember the first edition, the welcome page said, if you only get regular e desktop |
| 21:31.49 | she_dyed | then it's not capable of 3d graphics |
| 21:32.20 | she_dyed | which linux girl progma is it a booth babe? |
| 21:32.27 | she_dyed | oh the one on elive page? |
| 21:32.31 | AlexAnteMachina | progma, look into your /Video/elive Folder. |
| 21:32.56 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, my system can handle 3d. |
| 21:33.15 | she_dyed | yes with nvidia |
| 21:33.18 | she_dyed | of course |
| 21:33.19 | AlexAnteMachina | but ecomorph is more a pain but a nice feature. |
| 21:33.37 | progma | oh that video |
| 21:33.44 | she_dyed | you can trim down the effects to only leave the cube |
| 21:33.47 | progma | yah that would get on my nerves as a bg after about 5 min |
| 21:33.48 | AlexAnteMachina | so I need to know wether this is a hardware or software problem. |
| 21:35.09 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMbRjnWLezM |
| 21:35.15 | AlexAnteMachina | on my eeepc i cant even trim the effects down, caus when I'm trying to move the settings-window (which is necessary, cause half the window is below the screen) it wont accept any settings anymore. |
| 21:35.46 | AlexAnteMachina | so its just a pain, but not a pleasure. |
| 21:35.48 | she_dyed | ach |
| 21:35.56 | she_dyed | the window is too big |
| 21:36.03 | AlexAnteMachina | yes. |
| 21:36.13 | AlexAnteMachina | normally that's not a problem. |
| 21:36.21 | AlexAnteMachina | Not a REAL problem. |
| 21:36.43 | AlexAnteMachina | But ecomorph's settings panel seems to be very sensitive. |
| 21:37.29 | she_dyed | does your netbook have intel onboard gfx? |
| 21:37.53 | she_dyed | progma, when you say work, what kind of work coding, compiling? |
| 21:37.58 | she_dyed | or graphics and rendering |
| 21:38.01 | progma | pff not even |
| 21:38.08 | progma | sysadmin doing tech support |
| 21:39.02 | she_dyed | the video isnt choppy when I do -nosound, the stutter only comes when firefox gets greedy |
| 21:39.30 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, my netbook has intel onboard gfx, yes. |
| 21:39.30 | she_dyed | i dont know now that I put ecomorph back |
| 21:40.13 | AlexAnteMachina | the only eomorph-version running well was this very old 1.9.22-4 I think.... if I remember correctly!?!? |
| 21:40.23 | she_dyed | almost the early one |
| 21:40.30 | she_dyed | yeah! after that |
| 21:40.39 | she_dyed | even my laptop couldn't boot gui |
| 21:40.48 | AlexAnteMachina | all later versions became worse and worse. |
| 21:41.02 | she_dyed | heck i'd turn it off like you |
| 21:41.06 | AlexAnteMachina | to me it looked like a bug became fixed by using another bug. |
| 21:41.10 | she_dyed | lol |
| 21:41.17 | she_dyed | a bigger one ate the small one |
| 21:41.27 | AlexAnteMachina | pretty much like that, yes. |
| 21:41.43 | she_dyed | almost like they were trying to find the minimum spec using our machines! |
| 21:41.52 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 21:42.11 | she_dyed | like, if somebody asked here, hmmm |
| 21:42.24 | she_dyed | Minimum requirements? Keyra, er I mean alex ? |
| 21:42.30 | she_dyed | or she_dyed? |
| 21:42.31 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, do you have any idea how to make audaciouse access my CD-device for playing audio CD? |
| 21:42.45 | she_dyed | yes, go to prefs |
| 21:42.54 | she_dyed | you will see plugins |
| 21:42.57 | she_dyed | for CD |
| 21:43.05 | she_dyed | you did this before |
| 21:43.33 | she_dyed | and all you have to do is 'add device' and i think its called /dev/cdrom <-- |
| 21:43.36 | AlexAnteMachina | i see LOTS of plugins... guess you are talking about this "CD Audio Plugin NG"!?!? |
| 21:43.38 | she_dyed | you can check on a terminal |
| 21:43.42 | she_dyed | yes |
| 21:43.51 | she_dyed | where it asks for device name |
| 21:43.52 | keyra | she_dyed: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 21:44.01 | she_dyed | hey i had you on ignore! |
| 21:44.10 | AlexAnteMachina | goes vomitting silently |
| 21:44.15 | she_dyed | wait xchat crashed and maybe lost my ignore |
| 21:44.33 | she_dyed | stupid fembot |
| 21:44.47 | keyra | she_dyed: No... stupid human! |
| 21:45.08 | AlexAnteMachina | Fuck the Shut Up! |
| 21:45.10 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg* |
| 21:45.13 | she_dyed | hehe |
| 21:45.57 | AlexAnteMachina | when insterting a CD it wont even appear somewhere in thunar. |
| 21:46.21 | she_dyed | weird, in my case it would ask, play or rip? |
| 21:46.26 | AlexAnteMachina | most other distros offer a simple access via Filemanager. |
| 21:46.27 | she_dyed | like gives me choices |
| 21:46.57 | she_dyed | set it up once in audacious and thats all it takes, next time it will just work |
| 21:47.15 | AlexAnteMachina | My neighbor got ubuntu. And when inserting a CD is simply shows up in filemanager AND on the Desktop. |
| 21:47.47 | AlexAnteMachina | I think it aint too hard having somehtin likely in elive, too. |
| 21:47.58 | she_dyed | if your hal daemon booted fine, it will work like that |
| 21:48.23 | AlexAnteMachina | never met the hal personaly... so.. dunno!? |
| 21:48.31 | AlexAnteMachina | Hey Hal! How are you? |
| 21:48.31 | she_dyed | it showed my usb stick in thunar |
| 21:48.37 | AlexAnteMachina | yo. |
| 21:48.38 | she_dyed | 'Hello Dave' |
| 21:48.46 | keyra | she_dyed: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 21:48.46 | AlexAnteMachina | usb-stick got a normal FS! |
| 21:48.48 | AlexAnteMachina | that's y. |
| 21:49.14 | she_dyed | but you should at least get 'Audio CD' icon in Thunar |
| 21:49.22 | AlexAnteMachina | no i dont. |
| 21:52.17 | AlexAnteMachina | And also I thought it should show up in /mount |
| 21:52.24 | AlexAnteMachina | but it doesnt. |
| 21:53.28 | she_dyed | not audio |
| 21:53.28 | AlexAnteMachina | aha. |
| 21:53.29 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 21:53.29 | AlexAnteMachina | but where else? |
| 21:53.29 | she_dyed | but mp3 will |
| 21:53.30 | she_dyed | /dev/<tab> |
| 21:53.47 | she_dyed | or /dev/cd<tab> |
| 21:53.52 | AlexAnteMachina | tab??? |
| 21:53.58 | she_dyed | yup |
| 21:54.06 | she_dyed | let the machine do hte autocomplete |
| 21:54.15 | AlexAnteMachina | ah! |
| 21:54.17 | she_dyed | just like nicks in irc |
| 21:54.21 | AlexAnteMachina | sure. |
| 21:54.34 | AlexAnteMachina | was just using thunar! |
| 21:54.42 | AlexAnteMachina | so the tab confused me. |
| 21:54.46 | she_dyed | ah ok |
| 21:55.33 | AlexAnteMachina | do I have to do that as root? |
| 21:55.40 | she_dyed | no |
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| 21:56.17 | AlexAnteMachina | bus/ fd/ input/ net/ shm/ .udev/ |
| 21:56.17 | AlexAnteMachina | disk/ .initramfs/ MAKEDEV pts/ snd/ |
| 21:56.27 | AlexAnteMachina | taht's all I'm getting |
| 21:56.53 | she_dyed | see whats in ,udev |
| 21:57.13 | she_dyed | and then in disk <-- but i think this is mostly hard drive |
| 21:57.42 | AlexAnteMachina | db/ failed/ names/ rules.d/ |
| 21:57.48 | AlexAnteMachina | that's in /udev |
| 21:57.55 | AlexAnteMachina | ups... /.udev |
| 21:58.13 | AlexAnteMachina | that aint useful, too. |
| 21:58.37 | she_dyed | damm theres a failed |
| 21:58.44 | she_dyed | hope there's no items in there |
| 21:58.53 | she_dyed | dmesg to the rescue |
| 21:59.49 | AlexAnteMachina | dmesg prints A LOT! |
| 22:00.13 | progma | dmesg |less |
| 22:00.29 | she_dyed | towards the end is where you put in the CD |
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| 22:02.18 | AlexAnteMachina | found it! |
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| 22:02.52 | she_dyed | what name did it get |
| 22:03.00 | she_dyed | /dev/scd1 or something |
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| 22:05.18 | she_dyed | wb The Man |
| 22:05.18 | AlexAnteMachina | ahm... chances are good I'm mistaking, but that's what I found: |
| 22:05.28 | AlexAnteMachina | [ 3.857178] hdc: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S182M, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive |
| 22:05.40 | AlexAnteMachina | so it's hdc, i think. |
| 22:06.16 | AlexAnteMachina | even if thats uncommon. |
| 22:06.16 | she_dyed | should work common on machines like mine old |
| 22:06.20 | she_dyed | heh |
| 22:06.38 | she_dyed | wonder why it did hda hdb and not sda sdb |
| 22:06.51 | AlexAnteMachina | dont ask me. |
| 22:07.06 | AlexAnteMachina | There is the guy in charge-> |
| 22:07.12 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis did it. |
| 22:08.14 | she_dyed | themaneater sis |
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| 22:12.45 | progma | lol |
| 22:14.49 | she_dyed | i think its easier to say |
| 22:30.43 | AlexAnteMachina | hey Thanatermesis seems we got a problem when using Audio-CDs. |
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| 22:36.45 | AlexAnteMachina | Thanatermesis, audio-cds dont show up nowhere when inserted. |
| 22:50.36 | AlexAnteMachina | Choke it Meta! Choke it! |
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| 22:51.16 | she_dyed | did you try the audacious plugin |
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| 22:54.22 | AlexAnteMachina | sure i did. |
| 22:54.30 | AlexAnteMachina | whats to try there? |
| 22:54.32 | AlexAnteMachina | nothin. |
| 22:54.40 | AlexAnteMachina | its just there or not. |
| 22:55.24 | she_dyed | /dev/hdc for cd device |
| 22:56.30 | she_dyed | once the plugin is told where the CD is, it will pick up the generic file names ,cdda |
| 22:57.19 | she_dyed | in fact, there will be a button to 'check device' and it will return with 'OK' when it sees the disk there |
| 22:58.07 | AlexAnteMachina | there aint no such check device button |
| 22:59.33 | she_dyed | there might be 2 plugins for CD |
| 23:00.00 | she_dyed | one is for id'ing the device |
| 23:00.09 | she_dyed | the other is for fetching song info online from cddb database, you might have been looking at ths second one |
| 23:01.03 | AlexAnteMachina | was sturggeling with "CD AUdio Plugin NG" |
| 23:01.24 | AlexAnteMachina | dunno what other plugin cold be cd related. |
| 23:02.21 | she_dyed | do you have xmms, might be easier there |
| 23:02.28 | AlexAnteMachina | no xmms |
| 23:02.35 | she_dyed | then copy it to audacious |
| 23:02.39 | AlexAnteMachina | audacious is what comes per default. |
| 23:02.51 | AlexAnteMachina | copy what? |
| 23:03.16 | AlexAnteMachina | nah,.. Im throu with that fuckin shit now. |
| 23:03.26 | AlexAnteMachina | thanks for your help. |
| 23:03.34 | AlexAnteMachina | i really appreciate that. |
| 23:03.49 | she_dyed | k |
| 23:03.54 | AlexAnteMachina | but I dont wanna fix what should be workin by default out-of-the-box. |
| 23:04.18 | she_dyed | maybe at next reboot thunar will see it |
| 23:04.24 | AlexAnteMachina | nope. |
| 23:05.04 | she_dyed | what about a data CD? |
| 23:05.10 | AlexAnteMachina | not now. |
| 23:05.29 | AlexAnteMachina | i gotta get some sleep now. |
| 23:05.39 | she_dyed | gnite man |
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| 23:06.12 | AlexAnteMachina | In case Thanatermesis comes alive ask him what his system acts like when faced with one of those EVIL audio-CDs. |
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| 23:06.33 | she_dyed | for him what is normal :D |
| 23:07.04 | AlexAnteMachina | but he aint no average user. |
| 23:07.29 | she_dyed | indeed |
| 23:07.41 | AlexAnteMachina | playing old fashioned audio-cd should not be too hard. |
| 23:08.11 | she_dyed | right, thunar sees it, then play from there |
| 23:08.17 | she_dyed | or wheerever |
| 23:08.52 | AlexAnteMachina | that's y I'm pissed. I KNOW for SURE it's just a snap in ubuntu, linuxMint, suse and mandriva. |
| 23:09.27 | she_dyed | and i think older elive |
| 23:09.38 | she_dyed | i'll check on mine, i'm behind in versions |
| 23:11.23 | AlexAnteMachina | when inserting audio-cd soundjuicer pops up. |
| 23:11.55 | she_dyed | thats the way old one right? |
| 23:12.15 | AlexAnteMachina | old one what? |
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| 23:12.58 | she_dyed | with soundjicer |
| 23:13.03 | AlexAnteMachina | huh? |
| 23:13.04 | she_dyed | as the music/CD player |
| 23:13.15 | AlexAnteMachina | not as a player but as a ripper. |
| 23:13.28 | AlexAnteMachina | k.. it CAN play CDs too. |
| 23:13.39 | AlexAnteMachina | But its not a cool player. |
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| 23:17.40 | AlexAnteMachina | I really neeeeeed to go now. |
| 23:17.49 | AlexAnteMachina | need to sleep. |
| 23:17.53 | AlexAnteMachina | its damn late. |
| 23:17.59 | AlexAnteMachina | c u tomorrow. |
| 23:18.02 | she_dyed | cya |
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| 23:35.18 | Elive_user60 | hola |
| 23:35.31 | she_dyed | hi |
| 23:35.33 | keyra | Elive_user60: que tal ? |
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| 23:36.44 | Elive_user60 | una consulta? soy nuevo en elive y tengo algunas dudas,aca se puede o solo para relajarse es aqui? |
| 23:38.24 | Elive_user60 | bueno saludos a todos. Hablamos en otro momentoª!! |
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