| 00:00.04 | AlexAnteMachina | well, if you just want to clone the mainscreen it should be quite easy. |
| 00:01.03 | ledus | oh no.. i want it to be indipendent form the main screen.. |
| 00:01.41 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Oh what it should show you? |
| 00:02.01 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Oo |
| 00:02.29 | ledus | an apple :) or some graphical effects with audacious |
| 00:02.59 | ledus | or simple text |
| 00:03.14 | she_dyed | how would it connect though? |
| 00:03.31 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | read link? |
| 00:03.50 | DronAn[BY] | See this one http://linuxinnovations.blogspot.com/2009/09/microshit-trains-bestbuy-employees-to.html |
| 00:05.48 | ledus | she_dyed, i think internal usb |
| 00:07.23 | AlexAnteMachina | well, ledus first you should checkout wether your graphix-device can handle a 2nd screen. |
| 00:08.38 | ledus | i think i have to write a lot of assembler code... |
| 00:09.04 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Oh yes. If put on this way |
| 00:13.12 | ledus | google shows me only prices for screens.. anyone know about a tutorial?? |
| 00:13.43 | she_dyed | do you have a link for that screen ledus |
| 00:14.19 | ledus | tybe motorola v3x on google |
| 00:14.57 | AlexAnteMachina | DronAn[BY]_eeepc, seems like microsoft is getting in serious trouble staying no.1! |
| 00:15.06 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 00:15.13 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | It is realy |
| 00:15.47 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | They loose complily in Mobile Division |
| 00:15.47 | she_dyed | ledus link called Hell Pain and Death http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51066 |
| 00:16.11 | she_dyed | but ubuntu has tutorial |
| 00:16.29 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | she_dyed, seen links? |
| 00:16.43 | AlexAnteMachina | the most hillarious thing they are spreading:"there is no how-to or support when using linux!" |
| 00:16.44 | she_dyed | the best buy ones yes |
| 00:16.48 | AlexAnteMachina | rofl! |
| 00:17.04 | she_dyed | its stupid to make them look stupid |
| 00:17.14 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | But |
| 00:17.23 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | The ppl are stupid :) |
| 00:17.34 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Because they do not care |
| 00:18.03 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | or won't think somehow |
| 00:18.35 | AlexAnteMachina | well, it'll just need some more time. |
| 00:19.12 | AlexAnteMachina | just think about the hughe progress in Linux during the last 5 years. |
| 00:19.39 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
| 00:20.02 | AlexAnteMachina | what did microsoft come up with in the same time? Vista!? |
| 00:20.20 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | wa ha ha :) |
| 00:20.35 | AlexAnteMachina | Now it's win7-time and they need to push it into the marked. |
| 00:21.00 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | And M$ was donating well :) frome whole wor;ld |
| 00:21.04 | AlexAnteMachina | they fear loosing users. |
| 00:21.16 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | They are |
| 00:21.26 | AlexAnteMachina | well, they will. Of course. |
| 00:21.39 | AlexAnteMachina | this is just a kind of evolution. |
| 00:21.51 | AlexAnteMachina | there cannot be mono-culture. |
| 00:22.05 | AlexAnteMachina | neither in nature, nor in technic. |
| 00:23.17 | AlexAnteMachina | k... i need some sleep now. |
| 00:23.18 | AlexAnteMachina | cu |
| 00:27.22 | she_dyed | gnite |
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| 00:38.36 | Gran_Ger | Hi Thanatermesis. I recently read the news from Elive,where the new version 1.9.51 could install or reinstall without burn the iso |
| 00:39.18 | Gran_Ger | But, this option is just since this new version? |
| 00:39.42 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | You can upgrade from any i think :) |
| 00:39.53 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | just install and run tool |
| 00:40.01 | she_dyed | from the admin menu |
| 00:41.20 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | just install upgrade-elive tool |
| 00:41.32 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | and download latest iso |
| 00:41.34 | keyra | DronAn[BY]_eeepc: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 00:42.18 | she_dyed | but they didn't bring back bootsplash :( |
| 00:42.50 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | that background in booting time? |
| 00:43.04 | keyra | DronAn[BY]_eeepc: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 00:43.37 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | new versions do not have it. |
| 00:43.47 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | I would ask why |
| 00:45.30 | she_dyed | but my stepping back a release or 2 seems to convince me not to have to use vt anymore |
| 00:45.49 | she_dyed | i have drop down consoles for root or su |
| 00:45.58 | she_dyed | so i dont have to hit ctl-alt-f1 |
| 00:46.08 | Thanatermesis | Gran_Ger, yes, answer replied by she_dyed and DronAn[BY]_eeepc :) |
| 00:46.45 | Thanatermesis | DronAn[BY]_eeepc, she_dyed: bootsplash is removed because there's not new patches for bootsplash for recent kernels, bootsplash is deprecated, died... until somebody will update it :), we are going to use another thing, but not implemented yet |
| 00:46.49 | Gran_Ger | Thanks Thana, she_dyed and DronAn[By]_eeepc |
| 00:47.33 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Gran_Ger, you are welcome |
| 00:47.43 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Thanatermesis, thanks :) |
| 00:49.01 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | bb2all |
| 00:49.11 | she_dyed | cya DronAn[BY]_eeepc |
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| 01:30.53 | Elive_user61 | how do i install updates in elive? |
| 01:31.07 | keyra | Elive_user61: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 01:31.40 | Elive_user61 | im trying to get wireless |
| 01:31.43 | Elive_user61 | but nothing |
| 01:31.49 | Elive_user61 | i doesnt detect it |
| 01:32.34 | Elive_user61 | how can i install programs through the terminal |
| 01:32.44 | Elive_user61 | i used to do it in ubuntu |
| 01:32.48 | keyra | Elive_user61: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 01:32.48 | Elive_user61 | im a newbie to elive |
| 01:34.09 | Elive_user61 | is it sudo apt-get install frostwire ? |
| 01:34.18 | Elive_user61 | or is it another command |
| 01:36.26 | Elive_user61 | do u install stuff like ubuntu? |
| 01:37.13 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user61, try a recent version of elive, it should work hopefully with your wireless card, if is not the case, you have a installer of the windows drivers for your wifi in the special "nurse" mode |
| 01:37.27 | keyra | Thanatermesis: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :) |
| 01:37.40 | Elive_user61 | ooh k |
| 01:37.43 | Elive_user61 | thanks |
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| 04:21.57 | elmo40 | crap. the iMac's are now using ATI cards :/ |
| 04:22.07 | elmo40 | ATI Radeon HD 4670 video card with 256MB of video RAM. |
| 04:22.17 | elmo40 | no more Nvidia GeForce 9400M cards |
| 04:22.21 | keyra | elmo40: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 04:22.46 | elmo40 | mind you, the ATI's are a better card, spec wise, just not Elive friendly ;) |
| 04:29.38 | elmo40 | no more sharing 356Mb RAM with the card. now they use dedicated 256Mb Video RAM. |
| 04:29.53 | elmo40 | not much, but they say it is good for 2400(something) x 1440 |
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| 06:28.22 | Ger_Gran | Hi there, what is the package for install or reinstall the system? elive-upgrade? |
| 06:28.36 | keyra | Ger_Gran: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 06:29.28 | Ger_Gran | somebody told me a few hours ago, but I don't know if I forgot it, or with this version is not listed. |
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| 09:52.38 | AlexAnteMachina | waahhhh waaaaaah winxp driving alex crazy... so crazy... |
| 09:53.06 | AlexAnteMachina | the will to kill rises again! |
| 10:21.21 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, lol |
| 10:21.33 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, what ya doing on xp ? |
| 10:34.06 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm frustrating myselfe. |
| 10:37.36 | AlexAnteMachina | popup here, popup there.... "oh, there is new hardware detected...." "The hardware is now configured and can be used. Please reboot!" |
| 10:39.07 | AlexAnteMachina | And my favorite is this one:"USB2.0 Hardware connected to USB1.1 .." |
| 10:39.55 | AlexAnteMachina | Well... it's all 2.0 USB. Its just that xp dont recognizes it correctly and not has drivers for it. |
| 10:41.43 | AlexAnteMachina | wow, and now it's even getting better, PrinceAMD |
| 10:42.11 | AlexAnteMachina | for some reason the system "upgraded" some graphix drivers. Now I got 4bit graphix. |
| 10:48.11 | AlexAnteMachina | this is a pretty old discount-OEM computer. I never ever had problems running linux on it. onboard sound and gfx worked nicely. But when it comes to Windows XP (wich was its "origin" OS it came with) everything becomes a problem... no sound... bad gfx... its just a pain. |
| 10:49.15 | AlexAnteMachina | it is like "buy this device, but never ever change a thing or it'll be broken!" |
| 10:51.19 | AlexAnteMachina | PrinceAMD, was that description exact enogh? |
| 10:54.11 | AlexAnteMachina | oh. and there is even more to come... now it's the pci-wifi-card's software causing problems. |
| 10:54.37 | AlexAnteMachina | with linux these cards working just fine! |
| 10:54.47 | AlexAnteMachina | that's why I bought 2 of them. |
| 10:55.32 | AlexAnteMachina | but with windows its a pain. |
| 10:56.34 | AlexAnteMachina | PrinceAMD, still there? Did I piss you off with all that crap? |
| 11:01.01 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, i', here |
| 11:01.22 | PrinceAMD | well it seems u need some new driver n so on |
| 11:01.51 | PrinceAMD | if u get too accustom to Linux windows becomes a pain |
| 11:02.27 | AlexAnteMachina | no no... it does not become a pain IT IS one! |
| 11:02.37 | AlexAnteMachina | people are just used to that pain! |
| 11:03.34 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, i plug windows 7 on some systems without having any problem with drivers |
| 11:03.38 | AlexAnteMachina | And of course I need new drivers. But it's another pain finding them on the intel HP! |
| 11:03.55 | AlexAnteMachina | well, probably win7 is better. |
| 11:04.46 | AlexAnteMachina | I really hope win7 is better. Because if it's not, the I would wonder what the guys in Redmond did during the last 5-10 Years! |
| 11:04.48 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 11:06.51 | PrinceAMD | it is better |
| 11:11.00 | AlexAnteMachina | "I'm a PC and win7 was all my idea!" |
| 11:11.29 | PrinceAMD | brb time to test new catalyst driver |
| 11:11.30 | AlexAnteMachina | That's how they doing Ads here. |
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| 11:17.12 | AlexAnteMachina | wb PrinceAMD |
| 11:17.28 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, thanks , the new fglrx 9.10 is nice :) |
| 11:17.37 | AlexAnteMachina | why did you logoff for testing win gfx-drivers? |
| 11:17.38 | PrinceAMD | i can actually play nexuiz at 60fps :) |
| 11:17.53 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, linux driver for ati card |
| 11:17.58 | AlexAnteMachina | ah! |
| 11:18.01 | PrinceAMD | i am using now a ati HD 3200 |
| 11:18.10 | AlexAnteMachina | for the machine you are actually using. now i got it. |
| 11:18.19 | AlexAnteMachina | why ati? |
| 11:18.37 | PrinceAMD | well my nvidia dried |
| 11:18.39 | PrinceAMD | died |
| 11:18.59 | PrinceAMD | brb |
| 11:19.34 | AlexAnteMachina | ?? but that wont force you buying ati-stuff. |
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| 11:21.14 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, back |
| 11:22.55 | AlexAnteMachina | ?? but that wont force you buying ati-stuff. |
| 11:23.22 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, nah |
| 11:23.26 | AlexAnteMachina | you also could have bought anything else. |
| 11:23.30 | AlexAnteMachina | so why ati? |
| 11:23.46 | PrinceAMD | i was going to order a nvidia gtx 620 but i actually ordered ati hd 5770 |
| 11:23.59 | PrinceAMD | 260* |
| 11:24.23 | AlexAnteMachina | and why? |
| 11:24.46 | PrinceAMD | i can care less about "3D" in linux, but when i'm gaming in windows HD 5770 is going to play my games |
| 11:25.01 | keyra | PrinceAMD: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems |
| 11:25.04 | AlexAnteMachina | aha! |
| 11:25.13 | AlexAnteMachina | now we got the point. |
| 11:25.26 | PrinceAMD | also the hd 5770 only use 18watts on idle :) |
| 11:25.51 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... I'm sure mine uses even less. |
| 11:26.08 | AlexAnteMachina | but its also not offering the same features. |
| 11:26.09 | PrinceAMD | my old 8600gt used more power when it was idle hehe |
| 11:26.12 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 11:26.37 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, what u got there Intel |
| 11:27.11 | AlexAnteMachina | depends on what machine we are talking about. |
| 11:27.49 | AlexAnteMachina | my "normal" pc has nvidia geforce 6200 |
| 11:28.04 | AlexAnteMachina | this testings pc has a onboard intel chipset. |
| 11:28.31 | PrinceAMD | nice :) |
| 11:28.39 | AlexAnteMachina | no it aint. |
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| 11:29.07 | PrinceAMD | intel gpu are good for testing u always find something weird |
| 11:29.18 | AlexAnteMachina | yo. |
| 11:29.23 | AlexAnteMachina | thats tru |
| 11:29.39 | AlexAnteMachina | intel gpu is mostly crap. |
| 11:31.33 | AlexAnteMachina | I#d prefer having a nvidia chipset |
| 11:32.23 | AlexAnteMachina | on both, the testings pc and the eeepc |
| 11:32.24 | PrinceAMD | yea nvidia are very very good , u can say they are the best |
| 11:32.28 | PrinceAMD | the reason i picked the hd5770 was it was cheaper and also my amd phenom 940 uses 125watts alone, and i dont want to add allot more to the bill |
| 11:32.53 | PrinceAMD | the next eeepc should have nvidia gpu :) |
| 11:33.09 | AlexAnteMachina | but mine will not. |
| 11:33.35 | AlexAnteMachina | I cant desolder its gfx unit and replace it by nvidia-stuff. |
| 11:33.58 | PrinceAMD | :( |
| 11:34.28 | AlexAnteMachina | PrinceAMD, do you know what this "Silverlight" thing is good for? |
| 11:35.09 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, it's M$ way of replacing Adobe Flash, it's just another web lang |
| 11:35.30 | PrinceAMD | it's suppose to be "better" than adobe flash |
| 11:36.01 | PrinceAMD | i have not seen a website with silverlight as yet |
| 11:36.07 | PrinceAMD | well could be because i'm using linux |
| 11:37.10 | AlexAnteMachina | there is some "silverlight"-like thing for linux, too. |
| 11:39.03 | PrinceAMD | yeah i dont know what the linux one name is :/ |
| 11:39.12 | AlexAnteMachina | i forgot it, too. |
| 11:39.26 | AlexAnteMachina | something like "moonlight" |
| 11:39.52 | AlexAnteMachina | stupid fuck. |
| 11:40.20 | AlexAnteMachina | what's got light to do with animated websites!? |
| 11:41.05 | AlexAnteMachina | Advertising-dorks. |
| 11:43.01 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 11:43.45 | AlexAnteMachina | I've had a gf who's father worked in the Advertising business.... what an idiot! He even believed his own lies. |
| 11:44.24 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, if u believe it, others will too :) |
| 11:44.31 | AlexAnteMachina | LOL |
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| 11:52.32 | mtraker | Hi |
| 11:54.26 | AlexAnteMachina | hi |
| 11:58.27 | AlexAnteMachina | PrinceAMD, have you read about Skype becoming opensource? |
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| 13:00.22 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteMachina, nope |
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| 13:08.03 | BiG_NoBoDy | hy |
| 13:08.25 | BiG_NoBoDy | could someone tell me which wersion of elive is stabe at the moment ? |
| 13:08.30 | BiG_NoBoDy | stable. |
| 13:10.43 | she_dyed | stable 2 hasnt beem out yet |
| 13:10.47 | she_dyed | been* |
| 13:10.58 | BiG_NoBoDy | :D stupid me :) |
| 13:11.00 | she_dyed | and to get GEM |
| 13:11.11 | she_dyed | its too old, |
| 13:11.14 | BiG_NoBoDy | it is in the topic :D thankyou! |
| 13:11.20 | she_dyed | ok |
| 13:11.25 | she_dyed | the dev is pretty close to it |
| 13:11.45 | she_dyed | so you get an idea |
| 13:11.52 | she_dyed | you're welcome BiG_NoBoDy |
| 13:12.45 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: i have found some stable ISO in google... |
| 13:13.00 | she_dyed | of elive, that would be really old thou |
| 13:13.16 | she_dyed | its almost like Win 3.1 compared to windows 2000 |
| 13:13.24 | BiG_NoBoDy | 1.4 i think... |
| 13:13.31 | BiG_NoBoDy | or smthing... |
| 13:13.37 | she_dyed | i wouldnt trust it |
| 13:13.45 | she_dyed | keyra torrent |
| 13:14.00 | keyra | she_dyed: Do not use torrents!! Some people create fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons and maybe dangerous commands too! You can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 13:14.33 | she_dyed | if you're not running a critical app, i'd just grab the devel version |
| 13:14.54 | BiG_NoBoDy | "Parent directory" intitle:"Index of" -html -htm -php -asp iso elive |
| 13:15.04 | she_dyed | the little fixes are for people with unique set of problems |
| 13:17.14 | she_dyed | this is what i have: |
| 13:17.25 | she_dyed | ive-codename: Gem+ (development) |
| 13:17.28 | she_dyed | elive-version: 1.9.22-4-compiz |
| 13:17.28 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: it is for my girlfriend... windows is dead in her netbook and i offered her to get her a pretty Linux box... so searching nice distro with a lot of eye candies for her :D i thought about gOS and Elive |
| 13:17.30 | she_dyed | debian-version: lenny |
| 13:17.43 | keyra | BiG_NoBoDy: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems |
| 13:17.51 | BiG_NoBoDy | but now i think i will choose gOS because it is free of anything :D |
| 13:18.01 | she_dyed | BiG_NoBoDy: i would offer gOS first if she hasnt used linux |
| 13:18.32 | she_dyed | or GEM (ot's old for us ,but a nice intro to linux) |
| 13:18.39 | she_dyed | on a CD first |
| 13:19.00 | DammitJim | woot? |
| 13:19.05 | she_dyed | once she is familiar or you've shown her how |
| 13:19.24 | she_dyed | heya DammitJim o/ |
| 13:19.39 | BiG_NoBoDy | she was using Mandriva 2009.0 for some months |
| 13:19.41 | DammitJim | who is her? |
| 13:19.54 | *** join/#elive Elive_user31_fr (n=Elive_us@adsl-89-217-45-100.adslplus.ch) |
| 13:19.56 | she_dyed | oh so she knows this stuff then |
| 13:20.08 | BiG_NoBoDy | yes she does! :) |
| 13:20.20 | she_dyed | nice job BiG_NoBoDy |
| 13:20.53 | BiG_NoBoDy | :D all my friends have some type of linux in their Windows Boxes |
| 13:20.57 | she_dyed | DammitJim: Big's gf |
| 13:21.20 | she_dyed | what was the hardware again BiG_NoBoDy ? not the one running Mandriva is it? |
| 13:22.06 | BiG_NoBoDy | no, Mandriva was on desktop, old desktop... and now i want to install some linux to Lenovo IdeaPad s10e |
| 13:22.16 | *** join/#elive Elive_user7_en (n=Elive_us@d83-183-112-55.cust.tele2.se) |
| 13:22.26 | she_dyed | ideapad, is that their netbook? |
| 13:22.33 | BiG_NoBoDy | yes |
| 13:22.37 | BiG_NoBoDy | its her notebook |
| 13:23.11 | she_dyed | get the devel to see if wifi and whatever else works |
| 13:23.16 | BiG_NoBoDy | i choosed elive because it is based on Debian, which i am using at the moment. |
| 13:23.25 | keyra | she_dyed: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :) |
| 13:23.42 | keyra | BiG_NoBoDy: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 13:24.08 | BiG_NoBoDy | keyra: |
| 13:24.13 | BiG_NoBoDy | keyra: linux |
| 13:24.16 | BiG_NoBoDy | :) |
| 13:24.42 | BiG_NoBoDy | keyra: torrent |
| 13:24.43 | BiG_NoBoDy | :) |
| 13:24.55 | BiG_NoBoDy | this bot doesnot work for me :) |
| 13:24.57 | keyra | BiG_NoBoDy: Do not use torrents!! Some people create fake torrents of Elive with porn, ad-ons and maybe dangerous commands too! You can only know the authenticity of the ISO if you download it from the Elive website |
| 13:25.05 | BiG_NoBoDy | oh it works :) |
| 13:25.53 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: lenovo say that they try to make PC's and net's and note's to work with linux |
| 13:26.25 | BiG_NoBoDy | ofcaurse, in my x61s, i needed to download firmware only |
| 13:26.42 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: what network manager is used in elive? |
| 13:27.07 | she_dyed | there is a homegrown net connector module |
| 13:29.32 | *** part/#elive synker (n=Elive_us@d83-183-112-55.cust.tele2.se) |
| 13:29.44 | she_dyed | it may have caused those pilots to exceed their destination :) |
| 13:29.47 | BiG_NoBoDy | by the way... what packages uses elive? |
| 13:30.11 | she_dyed | you mean e17? |
| 13:30.21 | she_dyed | elive is its own distro, standalone |
| 13:30.39 | she_dyed | but other distros shrinkwrap e17+ecomorph |
| 13:31.02 | BiG_NoBoDy | em, i am talking about other services. |
| 13:31.19 | BiG_NoBoDy | i teach linux in privet school |
| 13:31.34 | BiG_NoBoDy | just to know... |
| 13:31.58 | BiG_NoBoDy | it uses its own repositories .. |
| 13:32.30 | BiG_NoBoDy | it's bad, i have chosen debian because it is in lithuania... in my country |
| 13:32.40 | BiG_NoBoDy | oh my god what time is it :) |
| 13:32.42 | she_dyed | but you *could stick the debian repos there |
| 13:32.43 | BiG_NoBoDy | need to go |
| 13:32.49 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: |
| 13:32.56 | keyra | she_dyed: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 13:32.58 | she_dyed | k cya |
| 13:32.58 | BiG_NoBoDy | thanx |
| 13:33.17 | BiG_NoBoDy | sooner then you think :D |
| 13:33.24 | she_dyed | heh |
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| 14:18.35 | BiG_NoBoDy | i am back! |
| 14:18.36 | BiG_NoBoDy | :) |
| 14:18.55 | she_dyed | i was expecting your GF lol |
| 14:19.09 | she_dyed | anyway wb |
| 14:19.36 | BiG_NoBoDy | we are making Mandriva install fest in lithuania... |
| 14:20.16 | BiG_NoBoDy | i want to show other distributions to people out there... |
| 14:20.31 | she_dyed | that is EXTREMELY cool |
| 14:21.20 | she_dyed | when does it start? |
| 14:21.25 | she_dyed | already started? |
| 14:25.24 | BiG_NoBoDy | it takes |
| 14:25.34 | BiG_NoBoDy | about 2 or 2,5 hours |
| 14:25.52 | BiG_NoBoDy | it will be in december 12 |
| 14:26.05 | BiG_NoBoDy | sorry, needed to go to move my car |
| 14:26.10 | she_dyed | k |
| 14:26.17 | BiG_NoBoDy | i will present linux history |
| 14:26.57 | she_dyed | isnt release day tomorrow? |
| 14:27.06 | she_dyed | for mandy 2010 |
| 14:27.35 | BiG_NoBoDy | and i think to show some other linux distro. |
| 14:28.21 | BiG_NoBoDy | we are making install fest in december 12 i think... |
| 14:28.55 | BiG_NoBoDy | so i can use unstable for it... |
| 14:29.40 | BiG_NoBoDy | lets see how it works on virtual box :) |
| 14:55.04 | BiG_NoBoDy | is there abbility to have taskbar ? |
| 14:55.21 | BiG_NoBoDy | :D |
| 14:55.30 | BiG_NoBoDy | i see it :D i found it ;) |
| 14:55.37 | she_dyed | nice |
| 14:56.16 | BiG_NoBoDy | one more question. |
| 14:56.47 | BiG_NoBoDy | wait |
| 14:56.53 | BiG_NoBoDy | ill try to find it.. |
| 14:59.08 | BiG_NoBoDy | oh i see some problems with esu ? |
| 14:59.48 | she_dyed | as in what |
| 15:02.13 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.43 | *** join/#elive Elive_user77_en (n=Elive_us@88-223-34-50.meganet.lt) |
| 15:02.46 | Elive_user77_en | oh |
| 15:02.50 | Elive_user77_en | it is xchat |
| 15:02.57 | she_dyed | heh |
| 15:03.03 | Elive_user77_en | and what if i want jabber |
| 15:03.10 | Elive_user77_en | or skype? are they included? |
| 15:03.17 | she_dyed | see if its in synaptic |
| 15:03.25 | she_dyed | run synaptic off the menu |
| 15:03.30 | Elive_user77_en | yes |
| 15:03.33 | Elive_user77_en | skype it is.. |
| 15:03.43 | Elive_user77_en | but no jabber installed :) |
| 15:03.49 | Elive_user77_en | thats not a prob :) |
| 15:04.03 | she_dyed | if you're ok with text, centerim is multiprotocol |
| 15:04.11 | she_dyed | and i listed my jabber in there |
| 15:04.37 | Elive_user77_en | ok, lets test it |
| 15:05.13 | she_dyed | you're going for it? |
| 15:05.36 | Elive_user77_en | now i am looking at music player |
| 15:05.38 | she_dyed | or you mean test skype |
| 15:05.59 | Elive_user77_en | skype i do not use :) i see it is installed |
| 15:06.29 | she_dyed | installed if its a black square next to it |
| 15:06.42 | Elive_user77_en | i see it in menu |
| 15:06.44 | she_dyed | you can 'remove' |
| 15:07.13 | Elive_user77_en | centerim is in the box ? |
| 15:07.35 | she_dyed | in synaptic you have to install it |
| 15:07.45 | wasynyt | good afternoon people |
| 15:07.47 | she_dyed | and its no gui |
| 15:07.52 | she_dyed | heya wasynyt |
| 15:08.05 | Elive_user77_en | she_dyed, yes, it does not scares me :) |
| 15:08.13 | Elive_user77_en | wasynyt, good! |
| 15:08.14 | Elive_user77_en | ;) |
| 15:08.30 | she_dyed | i don't know man, your name is still Elive_user77_en :) |
| 15:09.02 | Elive_user77_en | she_dyed, :D thats funny elive hase 40 updates :) |
| 15:09.10 | BiG_NoBoDy | :) |
| 15:09.14 | BiG_NoBoDy | so what? |
| 15:09.16 | keyra | Elive_user77_en: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 15:10.21 | scary_command_li | she_dyed, is it good? |
| 15:10.29 | scary_command_li | good :) it sould be: |
| 15:10.36 | scary_command_li | ne |
| 15:10.46 | she_dyed | heh |
| 15:11.06 | scary_command_li | oky |
| 15:11.41 | scary_command_li | how many MB needs installed elive ? |
| 15:12.28 | scary_command_li | does it installs all the modules that are not needed to my PC or it will purge the rest one... |
| 15:12.54 | scary_command_li | because it is live CD it has to have many modules that my pc do not use... |
| 15:12.59 | scary_command_li | do you know it? |
| 15:13.18 | she_dyed | about 3.5G i think |
| 15:13.50 | scary_command_li | ok |
| 15:14.10 | scary_command_li | what about bonus cd? |
| 15:15.18 | she_dyed | idk, do you need Office. etc? |
| 15:16.27 | scary_command_li | yes |
| 15:16.35 | scary_command_li | she will need it ... |
| 15:19.22 | scary_command_li | my girlfriend :) |
| 15:19.29 | BiG_NoBoDy | this is me :) |
| 15:19.45 | she_dyed | the install will have abiword and gnumeric or something, |
| 15:20.34 | she_dyed | if thats not sufficient or an Oo.org d/load doesn't work |
| 15:20.47 | she_dyed | and you need them extras sure get the bonus |
| 15:20.58 | wasynyt | debian oo.org package should work as well |
| 15:21.37 | big_nobody-test | and games ? |
| 15:21.40 | big_nobody-test | :) |
| 15:22.16 | big_nobody-test | bonus is free or it is free licence... |
| 15:22.26 | wasynyt | well all debian packages should more or less work.. there is wine.. and you can compile any linux native game from source as well |
| 15:22.33 | wasynyt | bonus is a way to support elive |
| 15:22.47 | wasynyt | not something you are supposed to get for free |
| 15:22.57 | big_nobody-test | elive is a way to support elive |
| 15:23.01 | wasynyt | quite so |
| 15:23.23 | big_nobody-test | ok |
| 15:23.50 | she_dyed | gtg eat |
| 15:23.57 | wasynyt | bonus is just debian packages in a nicer format. so that for donating you get something nice :D |
| 15:24.25 | big_nobody-test | gtg ? |
| 15:24.37 | wasynyt | got to go |
| 15:24.53 | big_nobody-test | she_dyed, have a nice evening |
| 15:25.09 | she_dyed | no, bfast :) |
| 15:25.29 | wasynyt | nice |
| 15:25.53 | big_nobody-test | it's 17.25 in my country :) |
| 15:26.06 | wasynyt | where do you lice BiG_NoBoDy |
| 15:26.21 | big_nobody-test | wasynyt, Lithuania |
| 15:26.22 | wasynyt | *big_nobody-test |
| 15:26.36 | big_nobody-test | wasynyt, ? yes |
| 15:26.51 | wasynyt | just fixing the nick.. |
| 15:27.02 | BiG_NoBoDy | its tha same nick ;) |
| 15:27.02 | wasynyt | likes to correct his typos |
| 15:27.05 | wasynyt | :P |
| 15:27.15 | BiG_NoBoDy | no nick is not the same |
| 15:27.20 | BiG_NoBoDy | but user is the same |
| 15:27.26 | wasynyt | heh |
| 15:27.42 | big_nobody-test | running elive in Virtual box |
| 15:27.51 | big_nobody-test | this is nice. |
| 15:28.12 | big_nobody-test | i realy like it |
| 15:28.32 | big_nobody-test | i will show it to kids i teach linux :) |
| 15:30.25 | big_nobody-test | oky, letss try elive upgrade to not installed virtual pc :) |
| 15:30.39 | keyra | big_nobody-test: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso |
| 15:31.10 | big_nobody-test | yes it told me the same |
| 15:33.48 | wasynyt | apt slap keyra bot |
| 15:33.49 | apt | ACTION slaps keyra bot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 15:34.02 | keyra | wasynyt: But... it's true... :( |
| 15:34.16 | keyra | apt: me? |
| 15:34.17 | apt | methinks keyra is a woman-bot who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money... usually by felix |
| 15:34.21 | big_nobody-test | Complete Office suites including: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Databases, Schema's draw, Mathematic formulas, etc |
| 15:34.32 | keyra | apt: please... stop, or I'll call the op's to kick you :P |
| 15:34.41 | big_nobody-test | bonus CD has MS office ? |
| 15:34.50 | wasynyt | nope |
| 15:34.54 | big_nobody-test | ok |
| 15:35.26 | big_nobody-test | because in the web are used Ms names :) |
| 15:35.28 | big_nobody-test | oky |
| 15:35.33 | big_nobody-test | need to go now ;) |
| 15:35.42 | big_nobody-test | thanx for your help |
| 15:35.52 | wasynyt | see you later |
| 15:35.58 | big_nobody-test | when elive2 will be available? |
| 15:36.10 | wasynyt | when it is ready |
| 15:36.20 | big_nobody-test | month? year? |
| 15:36.24 | big_nobody-test | day? |
| 15:36.27 | big_nobody-test | second? |
| 15:36.32 | big_nobody-test | dont know? |
| 15:37.13 | big_nobody-test | oky |
| 15:37.24 | big_nobody-test | thanx for your help... |
| 15:37.33 | big_nobody-test | have a nice evening... or day,,, |
| 15:38.44 | wasynyt | yup.. i dont know it |
| 15:41.08 | BiG_NoBoDy | thanx wasynyt |
| 15:41.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:42.38 | *** part/#elive BiG_NoBoDy (n=BiG_NoBo@88-223-34-50.meganet.lt) |
| 15:52.12 | she_dyed | wasynyt: i made a dir for usb called /mnt/USB |
| 15:52.32 | she_dyed | for when I put a stick in |
| 15:52.39 | she_dyed | there is no stick now |
| 15:53.03 | she_dyed | but i searched for a file and it was found in |
| 15:53.20 | she_dyed | /mnt/USB, i played the wav file and it played! |
| 15:54.38 | she_dyed | scary huh |
| 15:54.48 | she_dyed | 'ghost in the machine!' |
| 15:56.51 | wasynyt | heh |
| 16:00.36 | she_dyed | i was expecting it to say not found |
| 16:00.50 | she_dyed | instead of playing halloween |
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| 16:09.44 | wasynyt | heh |
| 16:09.57 | wasynyt | well sometimes computers do mysterious stuff |
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| 17:39.25 | Elive_user21_en | hey any one there |
| 17:39.44 | she_dyed | yerp |
| 17:40.00 | she_dyed | o/ |
| 17:40.00 | Elive_user21_en | so how do you like elive? |
| 17:40.14 | she_dyed | would u belive i have it on 3 machines |
| 17:41.11 | Elive_user21_en | really i have it in a virtual machine right now i am just testing the new unssalbe version i liked the stable |
| 17:42.12 | Elive_user21_en | i like elive because you can chat to other users through this |
| 17:42.46 | she_dyed | r u on wireless? |
| 17:42.54 | Elive_user21_en | no ethernet why? |
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| 17:43.21 | she_dyed | for some wifi can be a dealbreaker |
| 17:43.33 | Elive_user21_en | oh |
| 17:43.51 | Elive_user21_en | i am trying to get windwos 7 up and running but it is a pain |
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| 17:44.51 | she_dyed | i have dual boot to win2000 for a game |
| 17:45.04 | Elive_user21_en | your running win 2000 wow |
| 17:45.22 | Elive_user21_en | get ubuntu and install wine youll never need windows again |
| 17:45.33 | she_dyed | no the quake runs fine |
| 17:45.52 | she_dyed | and ubuntu for me would be a step down |
| 17:46.12 | Elive_user21_en | what is quake? |
| 17:46.28 | she_dyed | ever heard of doom |
| 17:46.32 | Elive_user21_en | yea |
| 17:46.42 | she_dyed | but you dont know quake |
| 17:46.47 | Elive_user21_en | no |
| 17:46.58 | she_dyed | which doom do you know the new one? |
| 17:47.19 | Elive_user21_en | no the old one on old super nitendo |
| 17:47.23 | Elive_user21_en | and doom 2 |
| 17:47.40 | she_dyed | but you never played those on PC? |
| 17:48.07 | Elive_user21_en | no |
| 17:48.09 | Elive_user21_en | and ubuntu has made great advancement and now supports ntfs to |
| 17:48.11 | she_dyed | quake followed doom 2 |
| 17:48.28 | Elive_user21_en | oh i see |
| 17:50.04 | Elive_user21_en | how you tried ubuntu 9.04 even? |
| 17:50.43 | she_dyed | i'm a mandriva guy |
| 17:50.53 | she_dyed | thats why i view ubuntu as a step back |
| 17:50.56 | Elive_user21_en | are you running the stable version or unstable? |
| 17:51.08 | Elive_user21_en | never heard of mandriva |
| 17:51.14 | wasynyt_eee | really? |
| 17:51.27 | Elive_user21_en | yea i am looking it up now |
| 17:52.05 | Elive_user21_en | looks like windwos is it good |
| 17:52.08 | she_dyed | he's lived a sheltered life |
| 17:52.33 | she_dyed | i think if you';ve gone thru the sewer that is ubuntu |
| 17:52.35 | wasynyt_eee | so it seems |
| 17:52.36 | Elive_user21_en | no i just started last year getting into the linux base systems |
| 17:52.46 | wasynyt_eee | k |
| 17:52.50 | she_dyed | you are ready for the surface world of mandriva |
| 17:52.52 | wasynyt_eee | then there is much to learn |
| 17:53.30 | Elive_user21_en | i know alot about ubutnu and the others like fedora and open suse but never heard or mandriva |
| 17:53.50 | Elive_user21_en | ill have to give it a try |
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| 17:55.18 | Elive_user21_en | i am getting it right now |
| 17:56.02 | she_dyed | as long as you;re wired anyway |
| 17:56.13 | Elive_user21_en | yea i am |
| 17:56.27 | Elive_user21_en | let me guess it has no wireless support |
| 17:56.46 | she_dyed | oh it has plenty |
| 17:57.14 | AlexAnteee | she_dyed, r u talking about win7? |
| 17:57.22 | she_dyed | right up there it can go mano a mano with ubuntu |
| 17:57.27 | AlexAnteee | runs n hides |
| 17:57.28 | she_dyed | no way AlexAnteee ! |
| 17:57.38 | she_dyed | lol |
| 17:57.39 | Elive_user21_en | then why do i need to be wired |
| 17:58.18 | she_dyed | my personal habit |
| 17:58.25 | Elive_user21_en | oh i see |
| 17:58.34 | she_dyed | i prefer a speedy d/load thru wires |
| 17:58.43 | wasynyt_eee | :D |
| 17:58.44 | AlexAnteee | nobody knows what wire you need, nobody knows, but jesus! |
| 17:58.49 | Elive_user21_en | yea |
| 17:59.12 | Elive_user21_en | what are you talkin about alexanteee |
| 17:59.56 | AlexAnteee | was just singin the holy-wire song |
| 18:01.25 | Elive_user21_en | oh wowo |
| 18:03.01 | she_dyed | e17 opened up on this 32M laptop lol |
| 18:03.15 | she_dyed | i took most of the ram out to put on another laptop |
| 18:04.07 | she_dyed | makes me wonder hmmm should I put it back |
| 18:04.21 | AlexAnteee | she_dyed, youre a bad bad guy. Dont treat your laptop that bad. |
| 18:04.43 | she_dyed | but its more stable tho... |
| 18:05.01 | she_dyed | compared too this so called *spit upgrade |
| 18:07.01 | AlexAnteee | lol.. she_dyed ... but keep in mind: |
| 18:09.56 | AlexAnteee | you shall treat your laptop well! |
| 18:10.10 | AlexAnteee | that commandment no 11 |
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| 18:12.27 | AlexAnteee | hi BiG_NoBoDy |
| 18:14.36 | AlexAnteee | Thou shalt have no other OS but Elive. |
| 18:14.47 | AlexAnteee | is about to found a religion. |
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| 18:32.36 | Gran_Ger | Hello there! Wich is the package to upgrade the elive system? I asked this yesterday and she-dyed answered, but I guess I forgot it |
| 18:32.51 | keyra | Gran_Ger: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
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| 18:36.57 | Gran_Ger | I remember something like elive-upgrade, but now I can't find it. |
| 18:37.25 | Gran_Ger | Is that package correct? |
| 18:37.40 | wasynyt_eee | there is such a package |
| 18:38.17 | AlexAnteee | hey wasynyt_eee ! |
| 18:38.38 | wasynyt_eee | o/ AlexAnteee |
| 18:38.44 | wasynyt_eee | whats up |
| 18:38.47 | AlexAnteee | that package is called win7 |
| 18:38.49 | AlexAnteee | *gg* |
| 18:38.58 | wasynyt_eee | win7 ? |
| 18:39.05 | wasynyt_eee | what is that supposed to be |
| 18:39.07 | AlexAnteee | Gran_Ger, try looking for upgrade-elive |
| 18:39.29 | AlexAnteee | wasynyt_eee, i was just making fun on Gran_Ger |
| 18:39.31 | AlexAnteee | ;) |
| 18:39.46 | wasynyt_eee | :P |
| 18:41.51 | Gran_Ger | thanks |
| 18:42.21 | Gran_Ger | I can't find it. |
| 18:44.22 | Gran_Ger | Ok. Done. Thanks, I was trying with elive-upgrade instead of upgrade-elive. Now, I got it |
| 18:44.36 | keyra | Gran_Ger: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 18:44.55 | AlexAnteee | r u kidding me, Gran_Ger ? |
| 18:45.16 | Gran_Ger | why should I do. |
| 18:45.21 | AlexAnteee | its named "upgrade-elive" and is in the repos. |
| 18:46.32 | Gran_Ger | Now I know. Thanks. That was the origin of my question. I remembered the word elive and the word upgrade, I just was putting at different order. |
| 18:46.34 | AlexAnteee | so I really wonder why you did not find it. |
| 18:46.54 | AlexAnteee | :) |
| 18:47.00 | AlexAnteee | anyway. problem solved. |
| 18:47.03 | AlexAnteee | have fun! |
| 18:47.05 | Gran_Ger | Thanks a lot |
| 18:47.24 | AlexAnteee | :) |
| 18:48.37 | Gran_Ger | By the way. I don't remember since what version of elive, but at the home directory are 3 files into Documents directory |
| 18:48.53 | Gran_Ger | 2 of them are pdf's files |
| 18:52.11 | Gran_Ger | the elive manual into english and german. But there is no the spanish translation. |
| 18:52.25 | keyra | Gran_Ger: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 18:52.48 | Gran_Ger | I look up into eltrans, but there is no that document. |
| 18:53.02 | keyra | Gran_Ger: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 18:53.03 | AlexAnteee | yo |
| 18:53.36 | AlexAnteee | these documents are not in eltrans, yet. |
| 18:54.04 | Wizard | hi |
| 18:54.24 | Gran_Ger | Ok. Then, If i want to make the translation Into Spanish, I have to use the .ods file as a model? |
| 18:54.26 | AlexAnteee | but one can simply translate it and email it to thana |
| 18:54.59 | Gran_Ger | Ok. Thanks AlexAnteee! |
| 18:55.05 | AlexAnteee | and, by the way, the german version of this tutorial is horrible! |
| 18:55.11 | AlexAnteee | I need to rewrite that. |
| 18:55.16 | AlexAnteee | its awful. |
| 18:55.31 | AlexAnteee | but it's damn lot of work. |
| 18:56.14 | AlexAnteee | I've printed it out and corrected it prety much as if it was some schoolwork. |
| 18:56.23 | Gran_Ger | hehehe. Well, I can't make an opinion, because I don't know german, hehehe |
| 18:57.13 | AlexAnteee | If that would have been done for school chances are good the teacher would reject it. |
| 18:57.28 | Gran_Ger | hehehehehe. |
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| 18:59.10 | AlexAnteee | it's worse than a really bad 8th grade article for school. |
| 19:00.06 | AlexAnteee | Its more confusing people instead of helping. |
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| 19:19.27 | Wizard | want's to buy Apple Unibody |
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| 19:19.36 | Wizard | does somebod have it? |
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| 19:20.04 | AlexAnteee | having what? |
| 19:20.24 | AlexAnteee | sorry, got disconnected. |
| 19:20.52 | Wizard | Apple Unibod |
| 19:20.54 | Wizard | y |
| 19:21.06 | AlexAnteee | unibod? |
| 19:21.22 | AlexAnteee | whats that? |
| 19:21.35 | AlexAnteee | some new device? |
| 19:22.04 | AlexAnteee | "Wow! Steve Jobs invented the ingenious MyButt!!!" |
| 19:22.29 | AlexAnteee | Wanna have a close look at MyButt?? |
| 19:22.33 | AlexAnteee | *gg* |
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| 20:07.53 | Elive_user54_de | hi |
| 20:08.38 | Elive_user54_de | j |
| 20:10.27 | Elive_user54_de | sumbody? |
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| 20:18.10 | BiG_NoBoDy | yes :) |
| 20:18.15 | BiG_NoBoDy | :D |
| 20:21.27 | she_dyed | did he leave? |
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| 22:11.07 | Xavi_Elive | alguien sabe para que sirve el programa g ftp |
| 22:13.38 | BiG_NoBoDy | ? |
| 22:13.48 | BiG_NoBoDy | FileZilla |
| 22:14.17 | DaRtH_VaDeR | ftp - client |
| 22:14.17 | BiG_NoBoDy | in terminal type in: sudo aptitude install filezilla |
| 22:14.31 | keyra | BiG_NoBoDy: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 22:16.28 | BiG_NoBoDy | very nice and on linux and windows you can find this prog |
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| 22:17.40 | kiwi_ | hehe =) |
| 22:17.58 | BiG_NoBoDy | ha ha |
| 22:18.18 | BiG_NoBoDy | che che che =] |
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| 22:21.37 | Itachi | Hola :) |
| 22:25.20 | BiG_NoBoDy | bye |
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| 23:09.40 | Guest91212 | hi |
| 23:09.48 | she_dyed | hey there |
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| 23:10.54 | Guest91212 | how should i partition my hdd? by 40 gb just for elive for full speed? |
| 23:11.08 | Guest91212 | ext4 |
| 23:11.29 | BiG_NoBoDy | yes |
| 23:11.45 | BiG_NoBoDy | i think that should be nice |
| 23:11.52 | she_dyed | sounds good, with space for vids/music |
| 23:11.59 | she_dyed | for me that woud work |
| 23:12.05 | Guest91212 | can you give me an full exemple? |
| 23:12.33 | BiG_NoBoDy | Guest91212: what do yo mean? |
| 23:12.40 | Guest91212 | sda1 ext4. root |
| 23:12.53 | Guest91212 | boot partition? |
| 23:13.04 | Guest91212 | 40gb hdd |
| 23:13.08 | BiG_NoBoDy | Guest91212: for home use? |
| 23:13.15 | Guest91212 | 5 gb for elive |
| 23:13.28 | Guest91212 | home 30gb |
| 23:13.41 | she_dyed | Guest91212: yep for me and home use that would work |
| 23:14.11 | Guest91212 | jps is default by auto install |
| 23:14.39 | Guest91212 | is it not to old for speed? |
| 23:14.46 | she_dyed | i've been using reiser |
| 23:14.59 | BiG_NoBoDy | Guest91212: if my opinion it would: /dev/sda1 ext4 / (root) 38GB |
| 23:15.09 | BiG_NoBoDy | everything else for Linux swap |
| 23:15.43 | Guest91212 | ok and swap is in fat32 format? |
| 23:15.52 | she_dyed | the only thing is BiG_NoBoDy, at the rate that elive updates, i'd want to keep /home intact |
| 23:15.56 | BiG_NoBoDy | Guest91212: no in linux swap |
| 23:16.06 | keyra | she_dyed: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 23:16.14 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: oh yes... |
| 23:16.19 | Guest91212 | should i partition with gparted befor install? |
| 23:16.39 | she_dyed | its one of the first steps, but i did it like that |
| 23:16.47 | she_dyed | before the install |
| 23:16.53 | *** part/#elive kiwi_ (n=_netty@ks359129.kimsufi.com) |
| 23:17.01 | she_dyed | so that I can just click 'partitions are already set' |
| 23:17.35 | Guest91212 | an elive will find the partitions automaticly? |
| 23:17.50 | she_dyed | it will ask you if you want to split some more |
| 23:17.54 | she_dyed | but you can click cancel |
| 23:18.05 | she_dyed | i had it ignore the part.s with data |
| 23:18.24 | BiG_NoBoDy | (2009-11-03 01:17:34) Guest91212: an elive will find the partitions automaticly? |
| 23:18.25 | she_dyed | so its extremely safe for somebody who already knows what to do |
| 23:18.37 | Guest91212 | ok because it was wrong before, i was confused by the quastions |
| 23:19.08 | she_dyed | you can do it outside of the install |
| 23:19.50 | Guest91212 | sould i set the bootflag to root? |
| 23:20.33 | she_dyed | wont hurt |
| 23:20.40 | Guest91212 | ok |
| 23:20.48 | BiG_NoBoDy | i do not do this :) |
| 23:21.03 | she_dyed | give your reasons so that he can decide |
| 23:21.12 | she_dyed | maybe you know something we dont |
| 23:21.33 | she_dyed | i set it separate for future distros but so far i havent gotten one yet |
| 23:21.41 | BiG_NoBoDy | she_dyed: simply, i am lazy :) |
| 23:21.46 | she_dyed | lol |
| 23:21.51 | Guest91212 | ok but i was reading the wiki of partitions and by the real install faild it :)) |
| 23:22.09 | Guest91212 | it was to theoraticly |
| 23:22.09 | BiG_NoBoDy | Guest91212: what os? |
| 23:22.57 | Guest91212 | elive |
| 23:24.20 | BiG_NoBoDy | elive failed booting or installing when no boot flag is set? |
| 23:24.36 | BiG_NoBoDy | interesting? how many partitions were there ? |
| 23:24.44 | BiG_NoBoDy | it might be.. |
| 23:24.58 | BiG_NoBoDy | i do not know :) |
| 23:26.22 | Guest91212 | i gived the pfad to the partitions to sda2 and it was my ubuntu and elive formating my ubu :))) |
| 23:27.19 | BiG_NoBoDy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoYL4R3Te2s |
| 23:27.27 | Guest91212 | i am beginner with that |
| 23:28.37 | Guest91212 | oh thanks for the link |
| 23:28.51 | Guest91212 | visualy is always better |
| 23:28.53 | BiG_NoBoDy | it is interesting |
| 23:29.15 | BiG_NoBoDy | it is just presentation about linux |
| 23:29.30 | BiG_NoBoDy | it is very interesting |
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| 23:37.47 | Elive_user94_en | She-dyed and LinuxNIT: Hi guys. Hey, tried out Linux Mint. Awesome. Everything worked perfectly right out of the box, Compiz and all effects worked first go. So, I'm installing Mint in favour of Elive, Reasons? Elive is a beautiful toy, with lots of 'potential'. I say 'toy' because Elive does not churn out useful productivity distros that work, ie. stable versions. It is a constant stream of dev versions for geeks to fool around with. Most of u |
| 23:37.47 | Elive_user94_en | s are novices with little time to learn to tweak and besides, we have use Linux as tools to do what we need to. I say this in the hiope that Elive will change their philosophies and move away from Elive as a hobby for geeks and tweakers and produce some decent stabeleversions that work.. Unitl they do then it remains a very nice toy to fool around with by those who have lots of time to spare. I hope this is constructive criticism, and I really |
| 23:37.48 | Elive_user94_en | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.58 | Elive_user94_en | Thanatermesis: Hope you read this too. And I'm sure we all appreciate the hard work you put into Elive. Mnay thanks friend. Wish you well. |
| 23:40.36 | BiG_NoBoDy | Guest91212: as she_dyed said, installation partitions should look like: / - 10 GB in sda1 partition, /home should be in sda5 (Logical, in extended partition) about 28 GB those 2 partitions in ext4 and the rest space goes for Linux swap, it has it's own FS ;) |
| 23:41.08 | Guest91212 | on elive is only the window-manager not stable |
| 23:41.55 | Guest91212 | is more stabe as linuxmint |
| 23:42.01 | she_dyed | Goer had other production-critical requirements |
| 23:42.24 | she_dyed | he did give some effort |
| 23:43.34 | she_dyed | but irc can only help so much. There are other distros that include e17 or add e17 on top |
| 23:44.32 | she_dyed | i use Mandriva with an e17 rpm before elive |
| 23:45.13 | Guest91212 | i was telefon by the actualy ubuntu 9.10 by ekiga on sip client at after 1-2 minuts always break down, but ekiga on elive works good, because is based on debian |
| 23:46.03 | she_dyed | but nobody there was keeping up or maintaining it, so i installed elive on another partition |
| 23:46.49 | Guest91212 | SHE- do you now the live cd od www.slax.org ? when not try it!! |
| 23:47.10 | Guest91212 | amazing |
| 23:47.12 | she_dyed | do they put e on it, the last time i tried it was lookingGlass |
| 23:47.32 | Guest91212 | no, kde 3.5.1 |
| 23:47.39 | Guest91212 | cool |
| 23:48.06 | Guest91212 | live cd boot in just 1 min. |
| 23:48.32 | Guest91212 | prompt auto detect the wlan and works soooo fast! |
| 23:48.52 | Guest91212 | only 200mb |
| 23:49.08 | she_dyed | i hate kde thats the problem |
| 23:49.26 | Guest91212 | 3.5.1 is ok |
| 23:49.56 | Guest91212 | i like gnome more tobut that version of slax linux amazing |
| 23:50.05 | she_dyed | to me its too much like windows |
| 23:50.50 | Guest91212 | but 1 min boot time |
| 23:51.01 | Guest91212 | no one can do it |
| 23:51.21 | Guest91212 | and everyting onbord |
| 23:52.07 | Guest91212 | ok good night |
| 23:54.22 | she_dyed | gnite |