IRC log for #elive on 20091107

00:38.36*** join/#elive BiG_NoBoDy (n=BiG_NoBo@88-223-34-50.meganet.lt)
00:45.03*** join/#elive Elive_user15 (n=Elive_us@190.177.14.115)
00:55.02*** join/#elive Elive_user48 (n=Elive_us@190-82-243-178.adsl.tie.cl)
01:58.48*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ip72-198-38-65.ok.ok.cox.net)
02:32.17*** join/#elive Elive_user13_es (n=Elive_us@189.161.167.196)
02:48.26kingdonugh
02:48.28kingdonwhat a mess
02:48.38kingdoni just tried upgrading my elive system to debian/sid
02:49.01LinuxNITwhat happened?
02:49.10kingdonit removed initscripts
02:49.16kingdonand xorg
02:49.16LinuxNIToh
02:49.19kingdonand ...
02:49.26kingdonhow many other important things
02:49.38LinuxNITdid you not check the list of packages to be removed?
02:49.41kingdonand won't give them back
02:49.44kingdonyeah i looked at it
02:49.47kingdonfigured it was probably OK
02:50.27LinuxNIToh
02:51.39LinuxNITbehold the joy of sid
02:52.46kingdoni'm just trying to get this webcam working :D
02:53.04kingdonwebcam-viewer (mplayer) won't do it at a proper resolution
02:53.25kingdonand cheese/luvcview both make a horrible grainy mjpeg display
02:53.33kingdonat the right resolution, but I don't know if it's scaling
02:53.39kingdonit's such a nice webcam in windows
02:54.36LinuxNITdunno
02:54.44LinuxNITi never played with my webcam much
02:55.37kingdonfigures i'd break my system just a day after downloading 30k messages and wiping them from my gmail account
02:55.40kingdoninto evolution
02:56.02LinuxNITi think evolutions mail storage is portable
02:57.06LinuxNITthey arent lost... you can save them and use them when you reinstall
02:58.25kingdonyeah, but the backup is going to be 95 times as big now :D
02:58.41kingdonplus, i still want to try SID
02:59.13kingdoni was hoping to filter out the crap
02:59.17kingdonthen move the messages back to gmail
02:59.20kingdonbefore I broke the system
02:59.27kingdonhave to remember that for next time
02:59.38kingdon*shrug*
03:00.05LinuxNITwhy will the back up be so big?
03:00.20kingdonfor some reason
03:00.21kingdondonno
03:00.25kingdonmy .evolution is over 2GB
03:00.32LinuxNITdamn
03:00.34kingdoncan't even store that much on gmail, don't know why
03:00.49kingdonbut I certainly can't read that many messages
03:00.50kingdon!
03:01.50LinuxNIThmmm weird
03:02.16LinuxNITdoes evolution have one of those "compact folders" options?
03:02.31keyraLinuxNIT: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
03:15.16kingdonkeyra: you are full of the most ridiculous shit
03:15.21LinuxNIT<PROTECTED>
03:15.31keyrakingdon: que obsesionada que está la gente con mi culo...
03:16.00kingdonwhoever programmed you is in need of a serious head bashing in
03:20.39LinuxNIT:)
03:20.46LinuxNITkeyra, who programmed you
03:26.02kingdoncome on, out with it
03:27.57LinuxNITkeyra, owner
03:28.04LinuxNITkeyra, master
03:28.19kingdonprobably offended that we believe him to be a bot
03:28.26kingdonnot talking to us now
03:30.04LinuxNITknows who it is...
03:30.09LinuxNITjust wanted keyra to say it
03:30.19LinuxNITkeyra, who made you
03:37.02*** join/#elive DammitJim (n=DammitJi@41-117.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com)
03:47.21*** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=princeam@unaffiliated/princeamd)
03:59.52*** join/#elive Elive_user30 (n=Elive_us@189.130.83.99)
04:12.01*** join/#elive Elive_user96_es (n=Elive_us@201.165.216.119)
04:17.27*** join/#elive Elive_user90 (n=Elive_us@190.65.228.169)
04:21.11*** join/#elive Elive_user30 (n=Elive_us@189.130.83.99)
04:29.55*** join/#elive nadar_aao (n=nadar@p54B4AA0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
04:47.44*** join/#elive Elive_user71_en (n=Elive_us@host81-153-58-38.range81-153.btcentralplus.com)
04:47.44*** join/#elive Elive_user53_en (n=Elive_us@host81-153-58-38.range81-153.btcentralplus.com)
05:33.23*** join/#elive Elive_user91_es (n=Elive_us@189.144.173.239)
05:43.29*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ip68-12-193-228.ok.ok.cox.net)
05:44.11*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ip68-12-193-228.ok.ok.cox.net)
07:06.30*** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=princeam@unaffiliated/princeamd)
07:15.43*** join/#elive Begasus (n=Begasus@91.178.46.247)
07:47.28*** join/#elive Elive_user7_ru (n=Elive_us@88.204.193.43.metro.online.kz)
08:12.45twiggzhttp://www.zianet.com/downsouth/elivecompiz.jpg
08:12.58twiggzmy elive .51 desktop
08:13.13twiggzwith ecomorph enabled...
08:26.48*** join/#elive Ychoucha (n=dqsdqdsq@cbl33-2-88-181-20-40.fbx.proxad.net)
08:42.38*** join/#elive QubeZ (n=qube@64.128.254.34)
08:54.42*** join/#elive Elive_user36_en (n=Elive_us@pool-173-75-19-205.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
08:54.46*** part/#elive Elive_user36_en (n=Elive_us@pool-173-75-19-205.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
08:55.36*** join/#elive Elive_user2_es (n=Elive_us@189.149.245.119)
09:01.32*** join/#elive flaz3r (n=flazer@pool-173-75-19-205.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net)
09:26.02*** join/#elive Elive_user87_en (n=Elive_us@ppp83-237-127-32.pppoe.mtu-net.ru)
09:52.34*** join/#elive Elive_user21_en (n=Elive_us@chello062178022101.8.11.vie.surfer.at)
10:00.41*** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=princeam@unaffiliated/princeamd)
10:12.00*** join/#elive Elive_user21_en (n=Elive_us@chello062178022101.8.11.vie.surfer.at)
10:13.36*** join/#elive Elive_user17_fr (n=Elive_us@78.237.196.211)
10:16.13*** join/#elive Elive_user51_en (n=Elive_us@ip68-224-53-33.lv.lv.cox.net)
10:25.35*** part/#elive Elive_user51_en (n=Elive_us@ip68-224-53-33.lv.lv.cox.net)
10:26.26*** join/#elive stanca (n=Elive_us@188.26.59.88)
10:27.11stancaNo more new development releases?
10:28.18*** join/#elive batden (n=batden@AStDenis-105-1-27-82.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr)
10:38.37Pacmais back (gone 166:37:28)
10:41.42*** join/#elive Pacma (n=Spirit@81.184.153.181.dyn.user.ono.com)
10:54.24*** join/#elive wasynyt_eee (n=wasynyt@a88-85-156-247.mpynet.fi)
11:25.57*** join/#elive Elive_user21_en (n=Elive_us@chello062178022101.8.11.vie.surfer.at)
11:42.34*** join/#elive AlexAnteee (n=Elive_us@p57941C5B.dip.t-dialin.net)
11:42.51AlexAnteeehi
11:47.16AlexAnteeewasynyt, o/
12:51.59*** join/#elive Elive_user21_en (n=Elive_us@chello062178022101.8.11.vie.surfer.at)
13:11.39*** join/#elive Elive_user20_de (n=Elive_us@85.124.100.247)
13:24.04*** join/#elive Elive_user49_de (n=Elive_us@f054144067.adsl.alicedsl.de)
13:25.17*** join/#elive wasynyt_eee (n=wasynyt@a79-141-156-156.mpynet.fi)
13:29.30*** join/#elive Spami|Thug_ (n=Spami|Th@ALyon-153-1-43-130.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr)
13:35.13*** join/#elive ikevin (n=kevin_fr@best-member.illuX.org)
13:51.21*** join/#elive BiG_NoBoDy (n=BiG_NoBo@78-56-25-142.static.zebra.lt)
13:53.45*** join/#elive Elive_user29_es (n=Elive_us@pc-50-205-30-200.cm.vtr.net)
13:54.15Elive_user29_esquit
14:05.11*** join/#elive Xavi_Elive (n=Elive_us@197.Red-83-42-86.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
14:18.12*** join/#elive Elive_user78_fr (n=Elive_us@AToulouse-551-1-32-217.w92-129.abo.wanadoo.fr)
14:30.55*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ip68-12-193-228.ok.ok.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
14:42.01*** join/#elive Elive_user32_en (n=Elive_us@82-70-197-206.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
14:43.04*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ip68-12-193-228.ok.ok.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
14:53.43*** join/#elive thequestion (n=Elive_us@52.2.83-79.rev.gaoland.net)
14:54.24*** join/#elive watchwolf (n=watchwol@avo57-1-78-230-44-224.fbx.proxad.net)
15:23.28*** join/#elive Elive_user71_en (n=Elive_us@95-145-126-200.fibertel.com.ar)
15:24.05*** join/#elive she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-64-237-236.mia.bellsouth.net)
15:32.52*** join/#elive Spami|Thug (n=Spami|Th@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323)
15:38.54*** join/#elive Begasus (n=Begasus@91.178.46.247)
16:12.32*** join/#elive LinuxNIT (n=LinuxNIT@ppp-70-129-43-12.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net)
16:18.35*** join/#elive AlexAnteMachina (n=NasenFra@p57941C5B.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:18.50*** join/#elive PrinceAMD (n=princeam@unaffiliated/princeamd)
16:27.13*** join/#elive BiG_NoBoDy1 (n=BiG_NoBo@78-56-25-142.static.zebra.lt)
16:29.49Elive_user71_enHi, folks, Is anybody there?
16:30.40Elive_user71_eni have some silly question: how do I know the elive version I have installed on my system?
16:30.55LinuxNITcat /etc/elive-version
16:31.22Elive_user71_enwow, that was quick. Thanks LinuxNIT
16:32.26LinuxNIT:)
16:34.09Elive_user71_enOne more question: every time I boot the system cant get automatically connected to my wireless network.
16:34.34LinuxNITis autoconnect checked ?
16:35.02Elive_user71_enIf I run net-connector I found my configurations and I press connect and everythings start and works
16:35.28Elive_user71_enwhere should I check autoconnect?
16:35.46LinuxNITunder the profile name
16:37.49Elive_user71_enBTW when system is booting, it slowed by trying different DHCPREQUEST not getting to work, May this been involved?
16:38.21LinuxNITlive mode?
16:38.43Elive_user71_enunder profile name in NETWORK CONFIG there are the options for DHCP or STATIC, having choose DHCP
16:39.00*** join/#elive Elive_user55_fr (n=Elive_us@vss35-1-88-168-241-108.fbx.proxad.net)
16:39.16Elive_user55_frelive c'est beau
16:39.18LinuxNITwell its near that... i dont have it in front of me right now
16:39.41Elive_user71_enIm working on installed system, once updated manually by me with all the unknowlegde
16:40.06Elive_user55_frit's free and light for memory of computer
16:40.47*** join/#elive AlexAnteMachina (n=NasenFra@p57941C5B.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:41.10Elive_user55_fri have enlightment with ubuntu
16:41.19Elive_user71_enmy actual elive version 1.9.08 - im downloading right now 1.9.51
16:41.24AlexAnteMachinano. you have ubuntu with enlightenment.
16:41.25Elive_user55_frand elive live cd
16:41.26AlexAnteMachina;)
16:41.30she_dyedheh
16:41.34keyraElive_user71_en: Elive Gem roolz! I hope you are using the one from the website of Elive... apparently a modified ISO exists on the net with porn, adds, and crappy things, maybe that hacked ISO removes all your hard disk  lol
16:41.51Elive_user55_frno
16:42.36Elive_user55_fri don't install for now and if i install y am carefull
16:43.32Elive_user55_fri wanted to write : if i install it, i am carefull
16:43.43Elive_user71_eni'll be away from my computer for a while...
16:43.53Elive_user55_frok
16:43.58Elive_user55_frme too
16:44.30Elive_user55_frmay be later to write to you and others
16:44.38she_dyedk
16:44.48AlexAnteMachinahowdy she_dyed
16:44.50*** join/#elive Elive_user0_en (n=Elive_us@p5B03D512.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:45.01she_dyedhow are ya man
16:45.18AlexAnteMachinaquite well.
16:45.21AlexAnteMachinasir.
16:46.42she_dyedyou know how to fix your setup :) ?
16:46.51AlexAnteMachinayo.
16:46.52she_dyedthe dual
16:47.09AlexAnteMachinanot using 2nd screen.
16:47.44she_dyedsave the xorg.conf in /etc/X11 as xorg.conf.final
16:47.55she_dyedor whatver name
16:48.05she_dyedand at bootup time in rc.local
16:48.35she_dyedin it you will have a line cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.final /etc/X11/xorg.conf
16:48.55she_dyedthat way your original working one is restored no matter what
16:49.28she_dyedits what i do when testing different distros or different Elive
16:49.54AlexAnteMachinaahm... dont understand what you are aiming on.
16:50.16she_dyedso you always end up with the dual working the last time you had it
16:50.28*** join/#elive wasynyt (n=wasynyt@a88-85-156-247.mpynet.fi)
16:50.43AlexAnteMachinay so tricky? just backup the working xorg.conf and if it gets broken replace it by the original one.
16:51.03she_dyedthats what i was telling you
16:51.18she_dyedin techspeak
16:52.07she_dyedsame thing
16:53.49she_dyedonly bec a blank screen is a waste of real estate, imo
16:54.04keyrashe_dyed: if you have problems (blank screen) with unetbootin, press TAB and remove the 'vga=xxx' part before to boot
16:55.33*** join/#elive batden (n=batden@AStDenis-105-1-27-82.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr)
16:56.53AlexAnteMachina<she_dyed> only bec a blank screen is a waste of real estate, imo
16:56.55AlexAnteMachina???
16:57.48she_dyedi say use it, the card can handle more than 1 screen
16:58.42she_dyedsince 1999
16:58.55AlexAnteMachinaYo.
16:59.06AlexAnteMachinaCalm down my tempered friend.
17:07.12AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, i got a feeling this dual-screen problem is more annoying to you then to me.
17:07.27she_dyedno thats it
17:07.54AlexAnteMachinahmm?
17:08.18she_dyedthats the tech tip for the day, my quota has been reached
17:08.27AlexAnteMachinayou know, I'm just not patient enough struggeling for hours with such problems.
17:09.37she_dyedmy struggle now is with grub
17:09.50AlexAnteMachinaget win7.
17:09.51AlexAnteMachina;)
17:09.54she_dyedit wont boot to windows
17:10.08AlexAnteMachinaYEAH!
17:10.19AlexAnteMachinathats really cool!
17:10.46AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, that's not a bug. It's a Feature!!
17:11.01*** join/#elive joe75 (n=joe75@cpe-67-240-230-247.rochester.res.rr.com)
17:47.20she_dyedheh will reboot to check that feature :)
17:47.34*** part/#elive she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-64-237-236.mia.bellsouth.net)
17:53.34*** join/#elive Elive_user49_de (n=Elive_us@f054129123.adsl.alicedsl.de)
17:58.35AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user49_de
17:58.49Elive_user49_dehi
17:59.10AlexAnteMachinana? wie bist du zu elive gekommen?
17:59.22Elive_user49_degrüß dich
17:59.51Elive_user49_dehaben den bericht bei linux-community.de gelesen
18:00.03Elive_user49_deund du?
18:00.54AlexAnteMachinaisch guck un guck...
18:01.05Elive_user49_deunbedingt
18:01.17Elive_user49_deso muß das sein alder
18:01.44*** join/#elive Elive_user30 (n=Elive_us@189.130.83.99)
18:02.24AlexAnteMachinaich benutz elive schon seit etwa 2 jahren.
18:03.02Elive_user49_deok, aber erst jetzt wirds richtig interessant oder?
18:03.41AlexAnteMachinaweshalb?
18:03.46*** join/#elive cristian (n=chatzill@pc-24-1-44-190.cm.vtr.net)
18:04.23Elive_user49_deext4 und komprimiert installierbar
18:04.43AlexAnteMachinaich werd lieber mal reiser4 testen.
18:04.46Elive_user49_dedann wirds turboschnell
18:04.53Elive_user49_dewarum
18:05.31AlexAnteMachinaz.b. journaling und metadaten.
18:05.47Elive_user49_dewas willst du damit
18:05.54Elive_user49_devorteile?
18:06.04AlexAnteMachinaließ einfach mal wikipedia.
18:06.12AlexAnteMachinareiser4 is komplett neu.
18:06.13Elive_user49_dejou
18:06.27Elive_user49_debist du aus hamvurg?
18:06.32AlexAnteMachinahat mit reiserFS nur den entwickler gemein.
18:06.32Elive_user49_dehamburg?
18:07.04AlexAnteMachinaich finde den von dir angesprochenen artikel über elive nicht.
18:07.10AlexAnteMachinahast du mal ne url für mich?
18:07.28Elive_user49_de2 wochen her glaube ich
18:08.23Elive_user49_demit der komprimierbarkeit auf 1 GB ist es auf eeepc mit 2 gb installierbar
18:08.46AlexAnteMachinada find ich nix. lediglich nen hinweis "Aktuell auf den heft-dvds"
18:08.58AlexAnteMachinahast du nen 2gb eee?
18:09.12AlexAnteMachinaschon der 701 hat doch 4gb.
18:09.47Elive_user49_dehttp://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Nachrichten/Elive-1.9.51-mit-komprimiertem-Dateisystem
18:11.31AlexAnteMachinaah!
18:11.36AlexAnteMachinadanke.
18:12.20Elive_user49_dealex, finde mal heraus wie man unetbootin bei elive installiert, d.h. habe es zwar aber der startet nicht obwohl bei anwendungen angezeigt wird
18:12.34keyraElive_user49_de: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows)
18:12.39AlexAnteMachinaäh..
18:12.52AlexAnteMachinaElive_user49_de, was hast du denn installiert?
18:13.22AlexAnteMachinaWelches OS hast du laufen?
18:13.34Elive_user49_dekeyra? windows.exe datei? no kapito
18:13.47Elive_user49_dedas neuste
18:13.48AlexAnteMachinavergiss keyra.
18:13.57Elive_user49_dewarum
18:14.06AlexAnteMachinaElive_user49_de, hast du das installiert oder läuft das im livemode von cd?
18:14.35Elive_user49_deinstalliert. warum?
18:14.39AlexAnteMachinaokay.
18:15.07Elive_user49_defestplatte partitioniert also home getrennt
18:15.24AlexAnteMachinaund du willst noch nen bootfähigen usb-stick mit elive drauf erstellen. richtig?
18:15.38keyraAlexAnteMachina: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
18:16.24AlexAnteMachinakeyra is übrigens ein b ot.
18:16.35Elive_user49_denein, andere distros
18:16.47AlexAnteMachinaaha. okay.
18:17.19AlexAnteMachinaweil für elive*.iso files gibts ein eigenes tool.
18:17.19Elive_user49_dealso keyra antwortet auto-blöd
18:17.24AlexAnteMachinafast.
18:17.30Elive_user49_deja gesehen, danke
18:17.53Elive_user49_deaber nicht gelungen unetbootin zu installieren
18:17.53AlexAnteMachinaansonsten starte doch unetbootin mal als root von konsole
18:18.12Elive_user49_deweiß nicht wie es geht, debial lenny hat es nicht
18:18.33*** join/#elive digitalmortician (n=digitalm@217.147.222.170)
18:18.38AlexAnteMachina<PROTECTED>
18:18.49AlexAnteMachinawas meinst du mit "es geht"?
18:18.52Elive_user49_denein, wundert mich auch
18:19.24Elive_user49_dewird bei anwendungen als installiert angezeit
18:19.33Elive_user49_destartet aber nicht
18:19.45AlexAnteMachinaja deswegen sag ich doch:
18:19.54Elive_user49_deok als root
18:20.04AlexAnteMachinakonsole öffnen. root werden. unetbootin starten.
18:20.19keyraAlexAnteMachina: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows)
18:21.09AlexAnteMachinaklar soweit? oder gibts Unklarheiten?
18:21.28Elive_user49_deist klar danke
18:21.36AlexAnteMachinaokay.
18:21.42Elive_user49_dekeyra, wer ist denn das?
18:21.59AlexAnteMachinawenns jetzt nicht funzt müsste der grund in der konsole gemeldet werden.
18:23.16*** join/#elive Elive_user0 (n=Elive_us@85.149.120.31)
18:23.55Elive_user49_dewenn man bei elive theme ändert bzw. den hintergrund dann friert es ein beim übernehmen klick
18:24.06AlexAnteMachinaElive_user49_de, läuft unetbootin jetzt.
18:24.07Elive_user49_ded.h. restart
18:24.09AlexAnteMachina?
18:24.26AlexAnteMachinana jetzt mal langsam.
18:24.30AlexAnteMachinaeins nach dem anderen.
18:25.00AlexAnteMachinajetzt gucken wir uns erstmal dein unetbootn an.
18:25.16Elive_user0how do you instal windows over elive??
18:25.46Elive_user49_dees läuft als root auch nicht
18:26.01AlexAnteMachinaund was sagt die konsole?
18:26.25AlexAnteMachinada muss ja jetzt irgendwas stehen.
18:26.51Elive_user49_decannot run
18:27.20Elive_user49_dehabe den.deb datei installiert
18:27.40Elive_user49_de3.0.4 version glaube ich
18:27.46AlexAnteMachinaden.deb?
18:27.49Elive_user49_debist du entwickler?
18:27.54AlexAnteMachinanö, übersetzer.
18:28.15AlexAnteMachinaund tester.
18:30.25AlexAnteMachinaElive_user49_de, geh mal hier hin und speichere die Datei.
18:30.27AlexAnteMachinahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/377/unetbootin-linux-377/download
18:30.42keyraAlexAnteMachina: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows)
18:30.54AlexAnteMachinasag bescheid wenn du's runtergeladen hast.
18:30.59Elive_user49_deok
18:31.39Elive_user49_deruntergeladen
18:31.58AlexAnteMachinaok.
18:32.24Elive_user49_deöffnen mit?
18:32.27AlexAnteMachinadann navigiere mal mit thunar zum speicherort.
18:32.44Elive_user49_deja
18:32.51*** join/#elive she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-64-237-236.mia.bellsouth.net)
18:33.05AlexAnteMachinaokay.
18:33.08she_dyedworks ! whew
18:33.08Elive_user49_debin soweit
18:33.30AlexAnteMachinadann mach mal nen rechtsklick und wähle "Terminal hier öffnen"
18:33.45keyraAlexAnteMachina: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
18:35.12Elive_user49_determinal hier öffnen, gibt es nicht als option bei rechtsklick
18:35.27keyraElive_user49_de: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
18:35.44AlexAnteMachinadazu musst du "neben" ein icon klicken.
18:36.03AlexAnteMachinaklar soweit?
18:36.22Elive_user49_deah, ok
18:36.25AlexAnteMachina:)
18:36.57AlexAnteMachinaudn wenn wir grad so schön am rumklicken sind...
18:36.58Elive_user49_deja?
18:36.58AlexAnteMachinamach mal nen rechtsklick auf der unetbootin-linux-377 datei
18:37.11AlexAnteMachinaund dann wähl mal "Eigenschaften"
18:37.23Elive_user49_degetan
18:37.25AlexAnteMachinada gehste in "Berechtigungen"
18:37.40Elive_user49_deja
18:37.45AlexAnteMachinaund machst bei "Darf als Programm ausgeführt werden " ein Häkchen.
18:38.31Elive_user49_degetan
18:38.31AlexAnteMachinadann kannste das wieder schliessen.
18:38.39AlexAnteMachinaso, jetzt zur konsole.
18:38.51Elive_user49_deja
18:39.22AlexAnteMachinada musste mit "su" mal fix root werden.
18:39.47Elive_user49_debin ich
18:40.06AlexAnteMachinadann gib "./unetbootin-linux-377" ein
18:40.13AlexAnteMachinajetzt muss es starten.
18:40.20keyraAlexAnteMachina: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows)
18:40.31AlexAnteMachinakann aber sein dass es meckert und p7zip sucht.
18:40.43AlexAnteMachinatut es das?
18:41.16Elive_user49_dewhau
18:41.20Elive_user49_degeil danke
18:41.27Elive_user49_debist der könig
18:41.40Elive_user49_deund keyra ist auch witzig :))))
18:41.47AlexAnteMachinaElive_user49_de, hat das system über p7zip gemeckert?
18:42.06Elive_user49_denein, p7zip?
18:42.10AlexAnteMachinaeigentlich muss da ne fehlermeldung kommen, da das nicht bei elive dabei ist.
18:42.15AlexAnteMachinaja.
18:42.19Elive_user49_dehat elive 7zip mit an bord?
18:42.27AlexAnteMachina7z nicht gefunden. Dies wird benötigt für entweder Installationsmodus. Installieren Sie das Paket "p7zip-full" oder das entsprechende Paket aus ihrer Distribution.
18:42.37AlexAnteMachinaso lautet die fehlermeldung exakt.
18:43.05Elive_user49_debei mir nicht, unetbootin ist gestartet
18:43.32AlexAnteMachinabevor die unetbootin-gui auftauchte musstest du auch keine meldung wegklicken!?
18:43.47Elive_user49_denein
18:43.50AlexAnteMachinaokay.
18:44.22Elive_user49_dealso unet wird jetzt nur über root konsole starten oder wie?
18:45.27AlexAnteMachinadas is eh nur eine binäre datei.
18:45.42Elive_user49_deverstehe
18:47.01AlexAnteMachinadu kannst es auch als user starten, dann wird aber nach dem root-pw gefragt werden.
18:47.22AlexAnteMachinaDu brauchst ja root-rechte um ein bootfähiges system zu erstellen.
18:47.59Elive_user49_dedanke, jetzt dämmerts langsam
18:48.31AlexAnteMachinaokay.
18:48.32AlexAnteMachina:)
18:48.48AlexAnteMachinaund wegen deinem instabilen e17:
18:49.04AlexAnteMachinahast du mal ein dist-upgrade gemacht?
18:49.19keyraAlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
18:50.00Elive_user49_denein habe erst den letzten von 22.10 installiert, also seitdem nix neues da oder?
18:50.46Elive_user49_debin mal gerade erst seit 2 wochen weg von ubuntu
18:50.53AlexAnteMachinadu hast welche version installiert? 1.9.51, richtig!?
18:51.26AlexAnteMachinatja, das is alles noch dev.
18:51.42AlexAnteMachinada gibts upgrades alle paar Tage.
18:51.58AlexAnteMachinaund ein e17 upgrade is auch dabei.
18:52.08AlexAnteMachinahab ich vorhin erst installiert.
18:52.11Elive_user49_deja, hatte noch keine meldung aber
18:52.19AlexAnteMachinameldung?
18:52.23AlexAnteMachinawas für ne meldung?
18:52.25Elive_user49_dewie soll man upgraden
18:52.32Elive_user49_debzw. uodaten?
18:52.35AlexAnteMachinamach einfach ein terminal auf.
18:52.42Elive_user49_deupdaten
18:52.50keyraAlexAnteMachina: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
18:52.51AlexAnteMachinadann werd mal root.
18:53.01AlexAnteMachinaaber mit su.
18:53.02*** join/#elive Elive_user87_en (n=Elive_us@ppp83-237-235-242.pppoe.mtu-net.ru)
18:53.04AlexAnteMachinanicht mit sudo
18:53.14Elive_user49_demit su
18:53.18AlexAnteMachinaexakt.
18:53.36AlexAnteMachinaund dann: "apt-get update"
18:53.38Elive_user49_desoweit
18:54.15AlexAnteMachinaund wenn das dann alles druchgerauscht ist, dann gib mal "apt-get dist-upgrade" ein.
18:54.30keyraAlexAnteMachina: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
18:54.39Elive_user49_deah, danke , wie bei ubuntu
18:54.49AlexAnteMachinabasiert ja auch auf debian.
18:55.42Elive_user49_deoh jetzt gehts los
18:56.00Elive_user49_deaction pur :)))
18:56.05AlexAnteMachinajup.
18:56.26Elive_user49_debist du spanier?
18:56.29AlexAnteMachinanö
18:56.31AlexAnteMachinadu?
18:56.37Elive_user49_deauch nicht
18:56.51Elive_user49_deweil elive aus spanien kommt
18:57.07AlexAnteMachinajo.
18:57.08Elive_user49_deund du bist übersetzer
18:57.23AlexAnteMachinajo
18:57.42Elive_user49_deok capito
18:57.57Elive_user49_dezufällig aus hamburg?
18:58.03AlexAnteMachinaich übersetz en - de
18:58.08Elive_user49_deok
18:58.50AlexAnteMachinaalso ganz zufällig. Aber echt nur GANZ GANZ zufällig bin ich nicht aus Hamburg und war auch ganz ganz zufällig noch nie dort.
18:59.11AlexAnteMachinaAber das is natürlich nur reiner Zufall.
18:59.38Elive_user49_dedas muß nat. 1 zufall sein
18:59.38Elive_user49_denaja aber ich
18:59.54AlexAnteMachinaja so ein Zufall!
19:00.04Elive_user49_deweil wir uns heute abend in der galeria36 hätte treffen können
19:00.24Elive_user49_deist 1 salsa laden
19:00.38AlexAnteMachinaein saucenLaden?
19:00.53Elive_user49_desi
19:00.57AlexAnteMachinaaha.
19:01.07Elive_user49_deganz gut sogar
19:01.13AlexAnteMachinalecker sauce.
19:01.33Elive_user49_dedas auch
19:02.18Elive_user49_deich sehe schon, muß desöfteren die konsole benutzen :))
19:02.31Elive_user49_deubuntu nachteil
19:02.50Elive_user49_dedenke ubuntu wird erst ab 10.04 besser
19:04.16AlexAnteMachinamir wurden gnome und kde zu schwer.
19:04.52AlexAnteMachinaund ausserdem hatt ich den anschein die würden sich win als vorbild nehmen.
19:05.33Elive_user49_deja gnome 2.28.1 nicht mehr schwer, schneller geworden und wird noch entrümpelt
19:05.50AlexAnteMachinakenn' ich mich nich so aus.
19:05.59AlexAnteMachinazuletzt hab ich kde 4.xx angeguckt.
19:06.08Elive_user49_deverbraucht aktuell 130 MB
19:06.19Elive_user49_dealso wenig
19:07.26Elive_user49_deja und elive wie apple :)))
19:08.52AlexAnteMachinahie und da, ja.
19:12.02AlexAnteMachinahab hier auch noch n mac stehen und kann sagen es ist doch etwas anders.
19:12.04AlexAnteMachina:)
19:12.48Elive_user49_deja mac ist stabiler und da funzt eben alles
19:12.55Elive_user49_deaber unfrei
19:13.05AlexAnteMachinanaaaajaaa....
19:13.25Elive_user49_dewatt denn?
19:14.00AlexAnteMachinaAlso dazu muss man aber bedenken, daß es deutlich einfacher ist ein stabiles System zu basteln wenn es auf definierter Hardware laufen soll.
19:14.46Elive_user49_derecht hast du
19:14.57AlexAnteMachinaWenn ich mir vor dem kauf überlege welche komponenten gut vom kernel unterstützt werden, dann kann ich auch ein superstabiles linux aufbauen.
19:15.04Elive_user49_dehttp://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Bundesverdienstkreuz-fuer-KDE-Gruender-853155.html
19:15.41AlexAnteMachinawenn aber unklar ist mit welcher hardware das system konfrontiert werden wird, dann wird es viel kniffeliger.
19:15.58*** join/#elive Elive_user51_en (n=Elive_us@128.217-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
19:16.23Elive_user49_deja zb. hp 6715s mit sempron chip
19:16.43Elive_user49_dehabe darauf ubuntu nicht zum laufen bekommen
19:17.01Elive_user49_dedas war 1 riesenaufwand
19:17.29*** join/#elive Elive_user0_de (n=Elive_us@i577B3738.versanet.de)
19:17.35AlexAnteMachinayo.
19:19.20Elive_user49_dezum mäusemelken
19:19.35AlexAnteMachinaso, ich muss mal mit meinem hund raus.
19:19.58AlexAnteMachinawir können ja morgen weiterschnacken
19:20.02Elive_user49_deok bis dann
19:20.07Elive_user49_detschüss
19:20.11AlexAnteMachinaAhoj!
19:20.28Elive_user49_deahoj junge
19:45.24*** join/#elive she_dyed (n=jazz@adsl-64-237-236.mia.bellsouth.net)
20:07.20*** join/#elive Elive_user69_es (n=Elive_us@189.145.6.166)
20:32.26AlexAnteMachinadamn.. looks like my hauppauge tv-card is broken.
20:41.15*** join/#elive ikevin (n=kevin_fr@best-member.illuX.org)
20:50.24*** join/#elive Elive_user91_fr (n=Elive_us@93.22.208.100)
20:55.25*** join/#elive Elive_user40_en (n=Elive_us@188.26.254.13)
21:49.24*** join/#elive AlexAnteee (n=Elive_us@p57941C5B.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:50.48*** join/#elive Elive_user25_en (n=Elive_us@p5B03D512.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:51.28AlexAnteeehi Elive_user25_en
21:51.50Elive_user25_enhi
21:51.53*** join/#elive Elive_user87_fr (n=Elive_us@52.177.70-86.rev.gaoland.net)
21:53.11AlexAnteeena? wie bist du zu Elive gekommen?
21:53.28AlexAnteeeBlödel.
21:53.29*** join/#elive Elive_user25_en (n=Elive_us@p5B03D512.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:53.55AlexAnteeeElive_user25_en, machst du nen logon/logoff marathon?
21:54.18Elive_user25_ennein, warum, teste gerade elive
21:54.45AlexAnteeena? wie bist du zu Elive gekommen?
21:55.10Elive_user25_enDVD aus LINUX Zeitung
21:55.15AlexAnteeeah.
21:55.23AlexAnteeedas is 1.9.37.
21:55.46AlexAnteeewir sind aber schon bei 1.9.51. Und dafür gibts auch schon upgrades.
21:55.46Elive_user25_enaha????
21:56.25AlexAnteeeaha!
21:56.29AlexAnteee:)
21:56.35Elive_user25_en;-)
21:56.55Elive_user25_enupgrade so wie bei UBUNTU???? dumm gefragt?
21:57.10AlexAnteeeapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
21:57.22AlexAnteeeeher wie bei debian.
21:57.25keyraAlexAnteee: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
21:57.38AlexAnteeewas ubuntu da genau treibt weiss ich nicht.
21:58.07Elive_user25_enist ähnlich, geht auch über terminal
21:58.21keyraElive_user25_en: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
21:58.42AlexAnteeeubuntu hat noch ein auto-update tool.
21:58.49Elive_user25_enyep, i think so....;-))
21:59.18AlexAnteeenaja... keyra ist kein mensch.
21:59.41Elive_user25_enlach, warum nicht???
22:00.14AlexAnteeenaja, weil's halt software ist.
22:01.04Elive_user25_enach so..........alles neu füre mich
22:01.11AlexAnteeeja?
22:01.46Elive_user25_enja, LINUX auf nem ausrangierten Rechner von 2000 , das ist doch was.......smile
22:03.25AlexAnteeedie in 1.9.37 is noch kein netzwerk-freigaben tool dabei.
22:03.35AlexAnteeeOder nur der Vorläufer.
22:04.15AlexAnteeeNichts desto weniger vermittelt es einen guten Eindruck was Elive sein will.
22:04.28Elive_user25_ensolange die alte Version gut läuft........
22:04.45AlexAnteeedas is nur ne dev-version.
22:04.46Elive_user25_enwas soll Elive denn sein???
22:05.07AlexAnteeestabil is GEM. Das is aber etwas alt.
22:05.32AlexAnteeeUnd in Kürze kommt dann version 2.
22:06.18Elive_user25_enist der wechsel alle halbe Jahre?
22:06.26AlexAnteeenö.
22:07.08AlexAnteeeder wechsel ist dann, wenn die stabilität/qualität erreicht ist, die Thanatermesis erreichen will.
22:07.17AlexAnteeedaher gibts keine feste "Roadmap".
22:07.25Elive_user25_enna, das klingt doch gut,
22:07.38AlexAnteeeyo.
22:08.25Elive_user25_enso, bis bald, muß jetzt ins bett, gute nacht ;-))
22:08.35AlexAnteeeIch schätze allerdings, daß 2.0 noch dieses jahr erscheint.
22:08.39AlexAnteeeja dann. gute nacht.
22:08.47AlexAnteeeevtl. bis bald.
22:08.48AlexAnteee:)
22:08.49Elive_user25_enbis denne
22:27.57*** join/#elive Elive_user6 (n=Elive_us@190.193.108.106)
22:47.12*** join/#elive digitalmortician (n=digitalm@84-73-223-25.dclient.hispeed.ch)
23:02.02*** join/#elive Elive_user80_de (n=Elive_us@77-64-145-219.dynamic.primacom.net)
23:07.41*** join/#elive Elive_user68_es (n=Elive_us@190.18.94.195)
23:07.54Elive_user68_eshola
23:08.08keyraElive_user68_es: que tal ?
23:08.13loboenlunallenabien
23:08.22loboenlunallenaalguien sabe donde esta el "monitor de sistema"
23:08.33loboenlunallenapara ver los prosesos y la ram que estoy usando?
23:09.07*** join/#elive Elive_user54_en (n=Elive_us@189.200.3.1)
23:13.45*** join/#elive wasynyt_eee (n=wasynyt@a88-85-156-247.mpynet.fi)
23:14.36*** join/#elive Elive_user25_es (n=Elive_us@84.126.214.14.dyn.user.ono.com)
23:15.09Mtrakerhi
23:23.40*** join/#elive Elive_user25_es (n=Elive_us@84.126.214.14.dyn.user.ono.com)
23:28.03Mtraker_hi
23:37.44*** join/#elive Elive_user2_es (n=Elive_us@189.149.245.119)
23:50.11*** join/#elive bluebugs (n=cedric@enlightenment/developer/cedric)
23:50.30*** join/#elive wasynyt_eee (n=wasynyt@a88-85-156-247.mpynet.fi)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.