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01:42.40she_dyedyou know whats missing
01:44.05Thanatermesisshe_dyed, do you C ?
01:44.18she_dyedno
01:44.25she_dyedas in code?
01:44.28Thanatermesisyes
01:44.29she_dyedsorry no
01:44.44Thanatermesiswell, make a look to this video that i just uploaded :), the best is the title lol  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abNsVyYTSkU
01:45.47she_dyedomg
01:51.30she_dyeddrums too lol
01:56.50she_dyedman thats cool wish i could code like that, you make it seem so effortless
01:58.05Thanatermesisdrums are needed for coding :)
01:58.26she_dyedthats wild, it gets you 'in the zone'
01:58.35Thanatermesisshe_dyed, yes, that's the point/end of this video, just to see that can be easly and fast
01:58.57Thanatermesiswell, this is a light version of what i normally listen ;) lol
01:59.12she_dyedso the coders that can help out should be C or python
01:59.49ThanatermesisC better
02:00.02Thanatermesiseverything should/can be made inside/with e17 modules
02:00.06she_dyedok so that if somebody is looking to code
02:00.18Thanatermesisa lot better integration, and a lot less ram sucky :)
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02:00.43she_dyedits not c++
02:00.47she_dyedc?
02:01.12*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Elive 2.0 is on the way ! || Collaborate: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate || Want e-module creation demo ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abNsVyYTSkU
02:01.18Thanatermesisnot c++, just c
02:01.22Thanatermesispurely c :)
02:01.24she_dyedok
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02:02.36Thanatermesisshe_dyed, hey, if you just follow the tutorial you can really do the same thing as the video :)
02:02.59Thanatermesiss/follow the tutorial/follow the video/
02:04.03she_dyedyeah and what will i code, the sequel to the classic epplet e-pants?
02:06.38she_dyed"This will point your PC fans to your pants, and if you feel the breeze, get dressed please
02:16.50Thanatermesislol, could be nice :)
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04:41.02she_dyedhi there
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10:05.03Elive_user10_enhoi
10:05.34Wizardczesc
10:05.38Wizardno i poszedl :/
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10:20.36BiG_NoBoDyhm
10:20.50Wizardhm
10:20.52BiG_NoBoDysam takij
10:21.05Wizard?
10:21.32BiG_NoBoDyposzedl
10:21.51Wizard:)
10:22.12BiG_NoBoDy:)
10:22.24BiG_NoBoDypoland?
10:22.32Wizardyup
10:22.42BiG_NoBoDyLitwa
10:22.49BiG_NoBoDy:)
10:22.53Wizardi've checked /whois ;D
10:23.03wasynyt_eeegood morning people
10:23.08Wizardhi wasynyt_eee
10:23.16wasynyt_eeehow are you doing Wizard
10:23.23Wizardanother neighbour jumped in :P
10:23.29BiG_NoBoDywasynyt > good day :)
10:23.37Wizardwasynyt_eee: fine, besides i have classes today
10:23.41wasynyt_eeeheh
10:23.54wasynyt_eeeBiG_NoBoDy, quite so.. but i just woke up
10:24.00Wizard:/
10:24.03BiG_NoBoDymy too :)
10:24.09Wizardup for 4 hours :/
10:24.14wasynyt_eeeWizard, what classes?
10:24.28Wizardi'm trying to graduate my studies :P
10:24.50BiG_NoBoDy12?
10:25.00wasynyt_eeecomputer technician?
10:25.08Wizardengineer ;)
10:25.13wasynyt_eeeheh
10:25.20BiG_NoBoDyoh studies :)
10:25.43BiG_NoBoDyenginer of what?
10:25.59Wizardcomputer science
10:26.06Wizardi don't know how to translate this :P
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10:26.16BiG_NoBoDyhow it souns in polish?
10:26.20wasynyt_eeei would have guessed computer technology
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10:26.38wasynyt_eeegood day Elive_user49_de
10:26.38Wizardinzynier informatyki
10:26.49Wizardsomething like this
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10:26.57wasynyt_eeegood day Elive_user49_de
10:27.08Elive_user49_dethx re
10:27.24Wizardextracted oldscool icons from corel linux cd
10:27.25Wizardhaha
10:27.28BiG_NoBoDywasynyt > didn't you tried to write join scrit?
10:27.43wasynyt_eeewrite what?
10:28.05wasynyt_eeewonders when he has been so drunk that he has thought that he can code
10:28.06BiG_NoBoDywhat degree will you get? Wizard
10:28.28BiG_NoBoDy:)
10:28.34BiG_NoBoDyyahoo it :)
10:28.44wasynyt_eee?
10:28.49BiG_NoBoDywhat client are you using>?
10:29.00wasynyt_eeexchat2
10:29.12BiG_NoBoDyis it gui?
10:29.15wasynyt_eeeor xchat
10:29.19wasynyt_eeeyeah
10:29.28wasynyt_eeegtk2 based
10:29.42wasynyt_eeehow are you doing don
10:29.50wasynyt_eee:(
10:30.53don_pyes i am cool now , just geting up
10:31.03wasynyt_eee:D
10:31.30wasynyt_eeewhat is the time there
10:31.48don_p11.30 germany, hamburg
10:32.44wasynyt_eeewe have a lot of europeans here then
10:32.55BiG_NoBoDyand you are?
10:33.03wasynyt_eeeFinland
10:33.24WizardBiG_NoBoDy: engineer
10:33.32BiG_NoBoDy:))
10:33.45BiG_NoBoDy:) me too! :)
10:33.50don_pwhat kind of?
10:33.53Wizardi don't care, i just want to finish this
10:34.05Wizardi'm tired of these crap classes
10:34.09wasynyt_eeeheh
10:34.23BiG_NoBoDy:)
10:34.31wasynyt_eeeWizard, will be the engineer of computer science
10:34.43don_phey, wizardowski! cool down
10:34.47BiG_NoBoDyof informatics
10:34.48BiG_NoBoDy:)
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10:35.13BiG_NoBoDy(2009-11-08 12:26:39) Wizard: inzynier informatyki
10:35.20BiG_NoBoDyhy _ikevin
10:35.21BiG_NoBoDy:)
10:35.43wasynyt_eeegood day _ikevin
10:36.31Wizardok, porting kde1 allmost finished
10:36.32BiG_NoBoDy:D
10:36.44Wizardi'm gonna write an article about it soon
10:36.49don_pBiG_NoBoDy, is it better to install elive with reiser4 o. ext4?
10:37.07wasynyt_eeenice... are you going to write it in english?
10:37.25she_dyedno dont write the article ! the world will end! :)
10:37.36BiG_NoBoDydon_p: :) dont know :)
10:37.39wasynyt_eeereiser4 has some really nice features for elive
10:37.45BiG_NoBoDyshe_dyed: how do you think?
10:37.52Wizardwasynyt_eee: i'm not sure if my english can handle that :P
10:37.58wasynyt_eeeheh
10:38.03BiG_NoBoDynoob :)
10:38.09wasynyt_eeewell then i will miss that article
10:38.14she_dyedporting kde1 to what?
10:38.18she_dyede? lol
10:38.22wasynyt_eeegood day she_dyed
10:38.23don_pwasynyt_eee, ist it saver too?
10:38.29Wizardfor gcc4
10:38.32she_dyedhow are ya wasynyt_eee
10:38.49she_dyedwhen a noob asked me how do I get icons on the desktop
10:38.59she_dyedi answered install KDE :)
10:39.07wasynyt_eeedon_p, well i am not sure how it could be safer than ext4 but with its features enabled it will take a lot less hd space and be quicker
10:39.09Wizardidesk eats less resorces :P
10:39.22wasynyt_eeeis doing well
10:39.29she_dyednice
10:39.29wasynyt_eeehow are you doing she_dyed
10:39.42don_pok, thx
10:39.48BiG_NoBoDywasynyt > you offer ext4?
10:39.50she_dyedis good, will make coffee Real Soon Now (TM)
10:40.05wasynyt_eeeBiG_NoBoDy, for elive the reiser4 seems like a good choice
10:40.23she_dyedi use reiser and its been good
10:40.32don_preiser4 for the /home to?
10:40.35BiG_NoBoDyso two votes for reiser :) mine goes to ext4
10:40.39don_po. just for root?
10:40.54she_dyedi recycled an old /home
10:40.56BiG_NoBoDyfor all :)
10:41.17BiG_NoBoDydon_p: they mean it for all :)
10:41.25wasynyt_eeehttp://www.elivecd.org/Main/News/
10:41.26BiG_NoBoDyas i understand
10:41.52BiG_NoBoDyi moved my 300 GB to 980GB hd
10:41.53BiG_NoBoDy:)
10:41.56wasynyt_eeeheh
10:42.17wasynyt_eeewell i would have / as reiser4 with compressed file system and /home as ext4
10:42.18BiG_NoBoDyi have found my olg mIRC log files :D it was funny
10:42.33BiG_NoBoDywasynyt > why?
10:43.02BiG_NoBoDywhay would you choose ext4 for home?
10:43.03Wizardafk
10:43.15BiG_NoBoDyWizard: have a nice day
10:43.16don_pok wasynyt_eee, thats a good joyce
10:43.22wasynyt_eeeext4 is very solid, and easily recoverable
10:43.46BiG_NoBoDythats why i use it for system...
10:43.48wasynyt_eeeand i dont need mad performance on /home
10:43.53BiG_NoBoDyno, i use ext3
10:44.12BiG_NoBoDywhy not ? :)
10:44.17BiG_NoBoDyjoke
10:44.17wasynyt_eeebut faster performance on system files will make the whole system a bit faster
10:44.31BiG_NoBoDyyes it is :)
10:45.03wasynyt_eeeso make own file safe.. and aim for the best performance on the system
10:45.46BiG_NoBoDyi like ntfs
10:46.04wasynyt_eeei dont
10:46.11BiG_NoBoDyif to be exact, i like ntfs compresed
10:46.20BiG_NoBoDyit is nice
10:46.21don_pBiG_NoBoDy, take fat12 for all
10:46.24wasynyt_eeeyou cant open it on any other os than windows
10:46.45BiG_NoBoDywasynyt doesn't matter
10:46.48wasynyt_eeeyou need nasty and poorly written software on other platforms
10:46.57wasynyt_eeeBiG_NoBoDy, well then it is not a problem
10:46.58BiG_NoBoDythe idea is very nice!
10:47.02wasynyt_eeeyeah
10:47.03BiG_NoBoDyi miss it
10:47.20wasynyt_eeewell the reiser4 plus compression is about the same
10:47.30BiG_NoBoDyhmmm
10:47.50BiG_NoBoDythinking. . . . . . . [ ok ]
10:48.05BiG_NoBoDythat sounds nice
10:48.27BiG_NoBoDyhow to enable reiser compression?
10:48.40wasynyt_eeehmm
10:49.10BiG_NoBoDyafk, brb
10:49.12don_pi think is offered by the first install for expert mode?
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10:50.59wasynyt_eeehttp://www.elivecd.org/Main/News/
10:51.11wasynyt_eeenot that..
10:51.20wasynyt_eeehttp://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765
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10:54.11wasynyt_eee1. Build and boot the latest kernel of -mm series.
10:54.11wasynyt_eee2. Build and install the latest version of reiser4progs(1.0.6 for now)
10:54.11wasynyt_eee3. Have a free partition (not for product using).
10:54.11wasynyt_eee4. Format it by mkfs.reiser4. Use the option -o to override "create"
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10:54.34wasynyt_eee5. Mount the reiser4 file system (better with noatime option).
10:54.36wasynyt_eee6. Have a fun.
10:54.38wasynyt_eeefrom: http://lwn.net/Articles/226251/
10:57.24BiG_NoBoDyhm
10:57.35BiG_NoBoDylzo goes for 7zip?
10:58.35BiG_NoBoDyone question
10:59.46wasynyt_eeeread the phoronix article
11:00.20BiG_NoBoDymy hd is ext3, and if i want to convert it to reiser... i have to move all data to backup or 70% and if i want to compress reiser, when it is converted...
11:00.26wasynyt_eeehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lempel-Ziv-Oberhumer
11:01.24wasynyt_eeehmm you need to back up all your user data.. repartition the drive.. which basicaly means reinstall
11:01.58wasynyt_eeeas far as i know there is no reliable way to convert from ext3 to reiser4
11:02.29BiG_NoBoDydrat
11:03.00BiG_NoBoDyext3 is my friend then :)
11:06.25wasynyt_eeei swithced from ext3 to ext4
11:06.44wasynyt_eeethat was quite many phased as well.. but doable
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11:30.57AlexAnteeehey folks.
11:31.42Wizardhi AlexAnteee
11:31.47AlexAnteeehi Wizard
11:34.11BiG_NoBoDyhy
11:34.22AlexAnteeehi BiG_NoBoDy
11:35.26BiG_NoBoDyeverybody > what a nice graphical archiving tool would you suggest ?
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11:37.37AlexAnteeeBiG_NoBoDy, there already is an Archive-manager in elive.
11:37.45WizardBiG_NoBoDy: archiving for backup or for packing files?
11:41.55BiG_NoBoDyWizard: files.
11:43.28AlexAnteeeBiG_NoBoDy, just use file roller. it's already installed in elive.
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11:44.19Elive_user67_enhi
11:44.36Elive_user67_eni'm trying to install
11:44.38AlexAnteeehi Elive_user67_en
11:44.44Elive_user67_enerr partition
11:45.03AlexAnteeewhat version r u trying to install?
11:45.20Wizardfile roller is quite good
11:45.44Elive_user67_enthe latest
11:45.45Wizardand detects console archiving tools, allowing some ancient formats
11:45.53Elive_user67_enit's in the computer
11:46.00Wizardlike rar, zip or ace
11:46.00AlexAnteeeWizard, of course it is good. This is Linux! ... and especially Elive!
11:46.08Elive_user67_eni don't remember the version
11:46.31BiG_NoBoDyAlexAnteee: file roller ? thats the name?
11:46.36AlexAnteeeyo
11:47.26Elive_user67_eni went to gparted to partition because i'm dual booting as well as i have a storage partition
11:48.06Elive_user67_ennevermind my husband woke up
11:48.09Elive_user67_en:)
11:48.34AlexAnteeegparted is a good tool.
11:49.06AlexAnteeeso you where going to resize the partition elive is installed to?
11:49.21Elive_user67_eni'm probably doing it right, but i'm scared to mess things up
11:49.28twiggzshe doesnt need to partition anything
11:49.36twiggzshe already had linux partitions
11:50.50Wizardnah, i have to tell my gf to install linux ;/
11:51.31Elive_user67_eni got bored with kubuntu and decided to switch
11:52.58AlexAnteeeno wonder
11:56.45BiG_NoBoDywhat filemanager is in elive ?
11:57.08AlexAnteeeBiG_NoBoDy, just use file roller. it's already installed in elive.
11:57.21twiggzthunar
11:57.31AlexAnteeeups..
11:58.01AlexAnteeearchiving was still on my mind.
11:58.59BiG_NoBoDyAlexAnteee: :) i use debian lenny with xfce4 :)
11:59.20AlexAnteeeah.
11:59.34BiG_NoBoDywhat for samba shares uses elive ?
11:59.49BiG_NoBoDyto access samba shares ?
12:00.34AlexAnteeesmb-browser
12:01.10BiG_NoBoDythanx.
12:01.15AlexAnteeewelcome
12:02.04BiG_NoBoDyand one more :) cd burning?
12:02.14AlexAnteeebrasero
12:02.20BiG_NoBoDyhm
12:02.23BiG_NoBoDywhy?
12:02.33BiG_NoBoDydo you like it?
12:02.44AlexAnteeeyes. worked for me.
12:02.53AlexAnteeeany better solution?
12:03.07BiG_NoBoDylighter and better... no
12:03.36BiG_NoBoDythe best choise of all writing tools i have used it is k3b
12:03.44AlexAnteeelol
12:03.46BiG_NoBoDyand now i use gnome baker :)
12:03.55AlexAnteeek3b is nice, yes.
12:04.16AlexAnteeekde4 is nice, too.
12:04.18BiG_NoBoDyk3b much nicer for me then nero
12:04.23BiG_NoBoDyno
12:04.33BiG_NoBoDykde4 is very not nice :)
12:04.37AlexAnteeenero has become crap.
12:04.56AlexAnteeekde is nice. but toooo big.
12:05.33AlexAnteeefor running kde smoothly i'd need to get a new comp.
12:06.16BiG_NoBoDyand kde light ?
12:06.25AlexAnteeedont know that.
12:06.37AlexAnteeesounds more like crap.
12:06.46BiG_NoBoDy:D
12:07.28AlexAnteeebetter using some "lightweight" desktop like e16/17 or xfce.
12:07.50AlexAnteeeinstead of using the castrated version of a bloated kde.
12:08.42BiG_NoBoDynot always
12:08.57BiG_NoBoDysometimes its good to have cutted edition
12:10.09BiG_NoBoDyfor example in virtual machine...
12:10.15AlexAnteeey that? If i'd like to have some kde-special I'd install debian with just the needed kde-packages.
12:10.29keyraAlexAnteee: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
12:11.20AlexAnteeecould somebody please be kind enough pulling keyra's plug!?
12:11.34keyraAlexAnteee: Do you like my body ? ;)
12:11.43BiG_NoBoDyyes i do! :)
12:12.02AlexAnteeeyou dont even have any fucking body, you pain-in-the-ass-bot!
12:12.44BiG_NoBoDyAlexAnteee: /ignore keyra!*@*
12:12.58AlexAnteee<PROTECTED>
12:13.00BiG_NoBoDyif i remember well
12:13.02BiG_NoBoDy:)
12:13.15AlexAnteeethanks for the hint.
12:13.20BiG_NoBoDy:D
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12:13.36BiG_NoBoDyoh it worked in mIRC :D
12:13.45AlexAnteeekeyra, windows
12:13.49BiG_NoBoDy6.04
12:14.33AlexAnteeeBiG_NoBoDy, did it "say" something yet?
12:14.42BiG_NoBoDyno
12:14.50AlexAnteeedamn.
12:14.58BiG_NoBoDy(2009-11-08 14:12:58) AlexAnteee:  /ignore keyra!*@*
12:15.02AlexAnteeewant to know wether ignoring works
12:15.09BiG_NoBoDyit wont work
12:15.23BiG_NoBoDysee /help for your client :)
12:15.39BiG_NoBoDykeyra
12:15.48BiG_NoBoDykeyra debian
12:17.48AlexAnteeeweird. it's not responding.
12:18.19BiG_NoBoDyy that? If i'd like to have some kde-special I'd install debian with just the needed kde-packages.
12:18.25BiG_NoBoDyhm
12:18.33keyraBiG_NoBoDy: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
12:19.02BiG_NoBoDydid you see this?
12:19.10AlexAnteeeyes.
12:19.12AlexAnteee:(
12:19.21BiG_NoBoDywhat client are you using?
12:19.29AlexAnteeexchat
12:19.46BiG_NoBoDyho it should work
12:20.20AlexAnteeeanyway.
12:20.51Wizardirssi!!!!
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12:21.01BiG_NoBoDyAlexAnteee: /ignore keyra!*@* ALL
12:21.04Wizardxchat suuuuux
12:21.13AlexAnteeehi Elive_user56_en
12:21.29Elive_user56_enhallo! mahlzeit
12:21.54AlexAnteeew00t
12:22.01BiG_NoBoDyhttp://t0x.in/xchatignore.html according to should work :) AlexAnteee
12:22.31BiG_NoBoDyAlexAnteee: lets try it again?
12:22.36AlexAnteeeyo
12:22.40BiG_NoBoDyinstall debian
12:22.54BiG_NoBoDyy that? If i'd like to have some kde-special I'd install debian with just the needed kde-packages.
12:23.16twiggzI see you folks met the wifey.
12:23.32twiggzirssi sucks in urxvt
12:23.38twiggzcant even click links
12:23.44twiggzterminator ftw
12:23.47keyratwiggz: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
12:24.01BiG_NoBoDyAlexAnteee: did you see that ?
12:24.11AlexAnteeeElive_user56_en wie geht's?
12:24.22AlexAnteeeBiG_NoBoDy, no i did not see a thing.
12:24.25BiG_NoBoDy(2009-11-08 14:23:47) keyra: twiggz: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
12:24.27AlexAnteeeis blind now.
12:24.39keyraBiG_NoBoDy: http://bugs.elivecd.org
12:25.02Elive_user56_endanke, geht mir ganz gut, habe heute das komplette System installiert....
12:25.03twiggzI voiced my opinion about urxvt vs terminator in here already, started a holy war of sorts while doing it too
12:26.18AlexAnteeeElive_user56_en, und was haste nun genau installiert?
12:26.31BiG_NoBoDyahreneli
12:27.00BiG_NoBoDynemcy blyn
12:27.25BiG_NoBoDyaway :D thanx for info ;)
12:27.33Elive_user56_enElive Linux Distribution, läuft ganz gut, nur der Begrüßungsbildschirm nervt........Abfrage von Namen etc
12:27.50AlexAnteeedu willst also nen autologin.
12:28.13Elive_user56_enja, wenn das geht
12:28.17AlexAnteeedas geht.
12:28.26AlexAnteeewelche version hast du denn installiert?
12:28.47Elive_user56_enwo sehe ich die Versionsnr?
12:29.14AlexAnteeezum einen steht die im namen der *.iso.
12:29.29AlexAnteeezum anderen in... da muss ich grad mal nachsehen...
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12:31.55AlexAnteeeda is ne txt datei.
12:32.05AlexAnteee/etc/elive-version
12:33.10Elive_user56_ennicht gefunden....
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12:33.23AlexAnteeeElive_user56_en, die datei MUSS da sein.
12:33.43Elive_user56_enauf der cd steht 1 9 45
12:33.59AlexAnteeena, dann wirds wohl 1.9.45 sein.
12:34.08Elive_user56_enja....
12:34.08AlexAnteeeaktuell ist aber 1.9.51
12:34.28AlexAnteeekannste dir saugen und drüberbügeln.
12:34.34Elive_user56_enwie bekomme ich die?
12:34.45AlexAnteeeauf der elive-website.
12:34.54AlexAnteeewww.elivecd.org
12:35.01AlexAnteeeunter "Development"
12:35.25Elive_user56_enbin ich gerade drin
12:35.59AlexAnteeeder installer erkennt die vorhandene version und fragt dann ob er aktualisieren oder neu installieren soll.
12:36.23Elive_user56_enwelchen server soll ich nehmen
12:36.35AlexAnteeeden französichen.
12:36.51AlexAnteeeist der letzte in der reihe.
12:36.57AlexAnteeeder ist meist am schnellsten.
12:37.37Elive_user56_enunstable iso 1.9.51 ????
12:38.00AlexAnteeeexakt.
12:38.35Elive_user56_enbrauche ich da ne CD für?
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12:39.16AlexAnteeeich glaub ja.
12:39.25AlexAnteeeoder kannst du von usb booten?
12:39.31DronAn[BY]_eeepcHello World
12:39.37Elive_user56_enläuft gerade
12:39.40keyraAlexAnteee: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
12:39.49AlexAnteeewer läuft grade wohin?
12:40.15Elive_user56_endownload.......iso image
12:40.20AlexAnteeeaha.
12:40.33AlexAnteeealso: kann dein pc von usb booten?
12:41.05Elive_user56_ender ist so alt, habe ich noch nicht ausprobiert.....eher nicht
12:41.58AlexAnteeeaha.
12:42.09AlexAnteeeis eigentlich ne frage des BIOS
12:42.33AlexAnteeegehen wir also mal davon aus, dass er das nicht kann.
12:42.38AlexAnteeedann brauchst du ne cd.
12:43.12Elive_user56_enja, brenne die gleich mit cd brennprogramm, kein problem
12:43.20AlexAnteeefür zukünftige installationen brauchst du dann keine mehr. Es gibt jetzt ein tool um direkt von *.iso zu booten.
12:44.05Elive_user56_enwie denn, mit USB Stick?
12:44.27AlexAnteeenö, direkt von *.iso
12:45.02Elive_user56_enwie geht das , habe gleich die Isodatei auf dem pc
12:45.13AlexAnteeemusste nur auf die iso-datei verlinken.
12:45.21AlexAnteeedas geht aber mit 1.9.45 noch nicht.
12:45.27AlexAnteeealso musst du noch ne cd brennen.
12:45.46AlexAnteeeoder wart mal...
12:45.47Elive_user56_enach so......schade.....dann eben über CD!
12:47.01AlexAnteeesiehst du unter "systemverwaltung" den punkt "upgrade elive"?
12:47.16keyraAlexAnteee: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
12:49.22Elive_user56_ennein ist kein punkt vorhanden
12:49.26AlexAnteeeokay.
12:49.30AlexAnteeedann per cd.
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12:50.25Elive_user56_enwerde ich gleich brennen und ausprobioeren, danke erst mal, muß gleich weg, eine frage habe ich aber noch, gibt es kein mailprogramm????
12:50.34AlexAnteeedoch.
12:50.38AlexAnteeeicedove
12:51.13Elive_user56_enwo ist das programm???? in der neuen Version?
12:51.15AlexAnteeeicedove und iceweasel sind die freien varianten von thunderbird und firefox.
12:52.20Elive_user56_eniceweasel war dabei nur iscedove nicht
12:53.24AlexAnteeeokay.
12:53.29AlexAnteeekannste ja nachinstallieren.
12:54.00Elive_user56_enmache ich.......bis bald und danke
12:54.06AlexAnteeetschö.
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13:52.49Mtrakerhi
13:55.32she_dyedhi Mtraker
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14:27.53she_dyedman we should get conky working
14:28.23she_dyedhttp://blog.conky.be/category/hints-tips
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14:51.35twiggzi still rather use gkrellm
14:51.54twiggzgkrellm already has hundreds of themes, and its not like conky does much more than gkrellm does
14:52.23she_dyedi have used gkrellm for a long time
14:53.34she_dyedfor it to blend well with e themes means additional work for e themers
14:54.08she_dyedin fact if I'm not mistaken only detour
14:54.18she_dyedever had a skin for it
14:55.36she_dyedwhen you try to use any other they look so 90's
14:56.10twiggzlol, E17 is 90s :P
14:56.23twiggzits been beta since atleast 99 or something
14:56.26twiggzlol
14:56.28she_dyedyou havent tried the new themes
14:56.46twiggzI do like how moonOS has the theme fetcher
14:56.54twiggzso yeah, Ive tried plenty of themes.
14:57.44she_dyedi still end up stripping them a lot
14:58.10she_dyedi've noticed
14:58.56she_dyedonly the borders remain and a shelf or 2
14:59.24twiggzelive needs that theme fetcher
14:59.27twiggzits quite handy
15:01.06twiggzmoonOS implementation of ecomorph sucks compared to elive though
15:01.21keyratwiggz: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
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15:13.01she_dyedat least conky doesnt have to worry about themes, you mostly have to worry about font and thats it
15:13.21she_dyedshould appeal to console users
15:20.03Elive_user40_desu
15:20.23she_dyedwhoa
15:21.47Elive_user40_desudo or su?
15:21.59she_dyedsu -  
15:22.04Elive_user40_deok
15:22.13she_dyedor su -c 'command here'
15:22.15twiggzsetting up a conky config is a pain in my butt.
15:22.16twiggzlol
15:23.14she_dyedthe beauty of it is, you can go with just a single line (cpu, mem, temp) of text or you can go graphical like these guys did with weather
15:24.29Elive_user40_debut why lenny not loves karmic koala?
15:25.05she_dyedmaybe thats for #ubuntu or #debian
15:25.20she_dyedmaybe its a tough love
15:26.09Elive_user40_deyes it is loving eachother
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15:39.16MtrakerWhat do you recommend im? for gtalk
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15:46.39she_dyed<PROTECTED>
15:47.12she_dyedcenterim is jabber compatible
15:47.20she_dyedboth are nonGui
15:47.45MtrakerI'll see
15:48.19Mtrakerbut i think in empathy.
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15:48.47she_dyedgive it a shot
15:50.00Mtrakeris it bad?
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16:12.40Elive_user40_dewhat is it mean? Error: Device/dev/hda2 is mounted 'rw' at the moment. Use -f to force over
16:13.22she_dyedwhat are you trying to do
16:13.35Elive_user40_demy root is in reiser4
16:14.10Elive_user40_deand on gparted is warning
16:14.41Elive_user40_debut the system works
16:15.43she_dyedi am missing something here, why are you in gparted if the system is working? you want to break it?
16:16.03Elive_user40_deno
16:16.28Elive_user40_deat first i have partitioning my hd
16:16.38Elive_user40_dethan boot live elive cd
16:16.44Elive_user40_deinstall
16:17.13Elive_user40_deroot in reiser4.   rest in ext4
16:17.39Elive_user40_deafter install works the system
16:17.41she_dyedexpert mode lets you pick and choose
16:17.58Elive_user40_deyes i install it in expert mode
16:18.35Elive_user40_dei just have a look now in the gparted how it looks after install
16:19.06Elive_user40_deand on the reiser4 partition /    is warning
16:19.15she_dyeddont use gparted
16:19.24she_dyedit means you are planning a repartition
16:19.39she_dyedthas why he is warning
16:19.47she_dyedthat you already have data there
16:20.02she_dyedhe is ready to do his job
16:20.15she_dyedbut on one condition, unmount them all
16:20.29she_dyeddont use gparted to look
16:20.36she_dyeduse the other nonGUI
16:20.47she_dyedbut they might also issue a warning
16:20.52Elive_user40_deother non gui?
16:21.10she_dyedor just do df -h on a terminal
16:21.25keyrashe_dyed: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
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16:22.46Elive_user40_deoh thx
16:23.03Elive_user40_dein the terminal looks ok
16:23.17Elive_user40_dekeyra?
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16:24.27she_dyedyou know she's a bot
16:25.22Elive_user40_deok. and "a bot" means auto-ansering
16:26.01she_dyedwhen it sees certain words
16:26.33Elive_user40_deok
16:28.37Elive_user40_dei have /root in reiser4, but i m not seeing differnt performence to /root in ext4
16:29.10she_dyedi only see the improvement in recovery
16:29.31she_dyedmaybe the others have
16:30.24Elive_user40_dein reiser4 starting the programms faster than in ext4 or what?
16:30.38keyraElive_user40_de: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
16:31.17wasynyt_eeeElive_user40_de, you can enable filesystem compression in reiserfs4 and make the root filesystem smaler and thus faster that way
16:32.05Elive_user40_dewasynyt_eee , ok, but how can i do it (enable) ?
16:32.29Elive_user40_deis alredy installed
16:32.50Elive_user40_deto late or not?
16:37.24Elive_user40_dewasynyt_eee ?
16:37.57she_dyedrun the liveCD :) and see if gparted can do it?
16:38.50Elive_user40_dewhat?
16:39.47Elive_user40_dei should boot it from the livecd? and from there is an option to make compression the root?
16:40.18she_dyedin gparted ? there is always 'do nothing' there to exit
16:40.34she_dyed'save without changes'
16:40.42she_dyedi mean 'exit without changes'
16:42.10Elive_user40_deim confused now. my elive is alredy installed. can i compress my root ?
16:48.00she_dyedidk thats why youwant to find out with the liveCD
16:49.36Elive_user40_deok and how? i start the livecd and than? gparted, and looking for that option?
16:49.50she_dyedyes,  thats how i would check
16:50.03she_dyedelse wait for was to come back
16:50.06Elive_user40_deok i will try
16:51.04she_dyedgparted is the friendliest with the Undo
16:51.17she_dyedand you have to hit Apply for it to begin
16:52.03she_dyedthats how i was playing with it
16:52.10wasynyt_eeewas eating
16:52.24she_dyedman of the hour
16:52.32she_dyedhope you had a good meal man
16:52.32wasynyt_eeehmm it seems that Elive_user40_de had some serious questions for me
16:52.42wasynyt_eeeyeah.. it was good
16:53.32she_dyedi had guessed that you had been afk
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16:58.28Elive_user51_dehi she_dyed, here is elive-user40 again from the livecd :))
16:59.01Elive_user51_degparted started and the options are:
16:59.09she_dyedhey was is back from dinner? right :)
16:59.13Elive_user51_deunmount. delete
16:59.31Elive_user51_deresize
16:59.40Elive_user51_decopy
16:59.51Elive_user51_deformat to
17:00.03Elive_user51_demanage flags
17:00.13Elive_user51_deand check
17:00.26wasynyt_eeegood evening Elive_user51_de
17:00.35Elive_user51_dethats all, hi
17:00.44she_dyedwasynyt_eee: i may have sent him to the wrong place to do it
17:00.52she_dyedthe compression i mean
17:00.54Elive_user51_deno options with compressing
17:01.05she_dyedbut he hasnt done anything yet
17:01.12wasynyt_eee!!warning long text input coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:01.15wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1765
17:01.15wasynyt_eee* Elive_user64_en (n=Elive_us@124.165.168.90) liittyi kanavalle #elive.
17:01.15wasynyt_eee* Elive_user64_en lopetti (Client Quit).
17:01.15wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> 1. Build and boot the latest kernel of -mm series.
17:01.15wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> 2. Build and install the latest version of reiser4progs(1.0.6 for now)
17:01.15wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> 3. Have a free partition (not for product using).
17:01.17wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> 4. Format it by mkfs.reiser4. Use the option -o to override "create"
17:01.19wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    and maybe other related plugins that mkfs installs to root
17:01.23wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    directory by default.
17:01.23she_dyedduck!
17:01.25wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    List of default settings is available via option -p.
17:01.27wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    List of all possible settings is available via option -l
17:01.29wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    For example:
17:01.29keyrawasynyt_eee: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
17:01.31wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    "mkfs.reiser4 -o create=ccreg40 /dev/xxx"
17:01.33wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    specifies cryptcompress file plugin with (default) lzo1 compression
17:01.35wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    "mkfs.reiser4 -o create=ccreg40,compress=gzip1 /dev/xxx"
17:01.37wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    specifies cryptcompress file plugin with gzip1 compression.
17:01.39wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    Description of all cryptcompress-related settings can be found
17:01.41wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee>    here: http://dev.namesys.com/CryptcompressSettings
17:01.43wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> 5. Mount the reiser4 file system (better with noatime option).
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17:01.45wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> 6. Have a fun.
17:01.47wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> from: http://lwn.net/Articles/226251/
17:01.49wasynyt_eee<BiG_NoBoDy> hm
17:01.53wasynyt_eee<BiG_NoBoDy> lzo goes for 7zip?
17:01.56wasynyt_eee<BiG_NoBoDy> one question
17:01.57wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> read the phoronix article
17:01.59wasynyt_eee<BiG_NoBoDy> my hd is ext3, and if i want to convert it to reiser... i have to move all data to backup or 70% and if i want to compress reiser, when it is converted...
17:02.02wasynyt_eee<wasynyt_eee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lempel-Ziv-Oberhumer
17:02.17wasynyt_eeeand sorry for the inconvinience
17:02.44she_dyedthanks i dont mind
17:03.34Elive_user51_deok, thats a bit to high for me, im a beginner
17:03.41Elive_user51_de:))
17:03.51wasynyt_eeehmm
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17:06.42Elive_user51_demaybe new install with the option in expert mode: reiserfs4 with gzip1 for /root  partition?  is it an compressed root?
17:07.15wasynyt_eeeyeah that sounds about right :D
17:08.38Elive_user51_debut by the installing was reiser4 as very fast, and reiser4 with gzip1 as fast but more cpu
17:09.14Elive_user51_dei thould very fast is faster than jus fast
17:09.19Elive_user51_de:))
17:10.07wasynyt_eeereiserfs4 with compression is harder on cpu, but cpu is stronger than hd
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17:11.04Elive_user51_deok thats logicly to
17:12.08Elive_user51_deand thre was 2 compressing options, wich one should i take it?
17:15.31wasynyt_eeewell both are good... the other is faster on the other case...
17:15.40wasynyt_eeeso choose lzo
17:16.43Elive_user51_deok how much GB for root? 1,5 GB enough?
17:17.36wasynyt_eeeon what kind of machine
17:18.48wasynyt_eeehow much hd space, in total
17:19.11Elive_user51_de35 GB
17:19.34Elive_user51_de526 mb workmemory
17:19.49wasynyt_eeei would go for something like 5 gb / and 2 gb swap
17:20.15wasynyt_eeeto avoid any problems in future with memleaking firefox
17:20.58Elive_user51_deok, i use opera 10.10 ffox somtimes
17:22.02wasynyt_eeeif you think that you wont experience memleaks about 1 gb of swap is plenty
17:22.36Elive_user51_dei have 786 mb swap
17:23.02wasynyt_eeewell that sounds enough if ou are ot using anything memory intensive
17:23.09Elive_user51_deis lzo compressing faster than gzip1?
17:23.40wasynyt_eeeit is supposed to a lighter on cpu.. ut worse on compressing
17:23.45wasynyt_eee*but
17:24.05wasynyt_eeewonders what kind of nonsense he is writing
17:24.19wasynyt_eee*it is supposed to be lighter on cpu.. but worse on compressing
17:25.47Wizardlol, do you play with compressed fs?
17:25.54wasynyt_eeei dont
17:26.09wasynyt_eeebut it is thing that makes reiserfs4 faster than the rest
17:30.01Wizardfaster? not saving disk space?
17:30.03Wizard:P
17:30.09wasynyt_eeewell that as well
17:30.14Wizardcool
17:30.25wasynyt_eeebut many machines have big enough hd's
17:30.39wasynyt_eeebut read/write speeds are more limited
17:30.45wasynyt_eeeso making files smaller
17:30.54wasynyt_eeemakes filesystem as whole, faster
17:31.34wasynyt_eeebut it will make the filesystem performance depend on cpu
17:31.46wasynyt_eeebut on todays 4 core 3 ghz monsters...
17:34.58Wizardyup, and what about reliability and data safety?
17:35.39wasynyt_eeewhen you add complexcity, you reduce safety and reliability
17:35.54wasynyt_eeebut they should be rather good even still
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18:28.56Mtrakerhi
18:29.06wasynyt_eeegood evening Mtraker
18:30.13MtrakerThanatermesis, me podrias decir en que formato trabajas en cinelerra?
18:30.28keyraMtraker: cinelerra r0cks!
18:40.08watchwolfthe futur weather module : http://watchwolf.fr/public/weather/weather_08_11_09.ogv
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18:45.20Mtrakervery nice watchwolf
18:45.50Elive_user81_frhello
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19:03.20ThanatermesisMtraker, en este unicamente (script) mencoder -vf harddup -demuxer lavf -oac pcm -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg:vhq:vbitrate=8000 -noskip -mc 0 -o $2 $1
19:03.49Mtrakergracies Thanatermesis
19:04.37Thanatermesisde res :)
19:04.51Thanatermesiswatchwolf, looks very good! specially the night one :)
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19:05.01ThanatermesisMtraker, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abNsVyYTSkU
19:20.13AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, that's a really cool video.
19:20.41AlexAnteMachinaMakes me inquisitive on trying that.
19:20.52AlexAnteMachinaAnd the music is GREAT! What is that?
19:21.18wasynyt_eeewants to know too
19:21.29wasynyt_eeegood evening AlexAnteMachina and Thanatermesis
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19:25.14AlexAnteMachinalol.. folks now I'm testing PlayOnLinux by installing IE6
19:25.16AlexAnteMachina;)
19:26.00wasynyt_eeewhat are you going to do with that
19:26.39AlexAnteMachinaBrowsing the web! you know, wasynyt_eee 20 years ago there was an great invention made, called WEB!
19:26.55wasynyt_eeeo'really?
19:26.58wasynyt_eeei had no idea
19:26.59wasynyt_eee:S
19:27.00AlexAnteMachinayes.
19:27.11wasynyt_eeewhat can you do with this "WEB"
19:27.33kingdoninternets?
19:27.46wasynyt_eeeinternets?
19:27.53AlexAnteMachinawell, wasynyt_eee you need to see yourselfe to believe!
19:28.08ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, if you just follow the video, you should be able to do the same :)
19:28.17AlexAnteMachinais a believer already and has testified!
19:28.21wasynyt_eee:P
19:28.22ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, infected mushrooms is the music, i think
19:28.28Thanatermesishi wasynyt_eee
19:28.34kingdonwhat's a complete e17 module?
19:28.44kingdoni usually tag e17 stuff as "nfsw"
19:28.50kingdonnot-finished software
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19:31.24Elive_user31_enHello everyone
19:31.35Elive_user31_enI have a question
19:31.39Elive_user31_enplease
19:31.47AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user31_en
19:32.12wasynyt_eeegood evening Elive_user31_en
19:32.15wasynyt_eeeapt question
19:32.15aptfrom memory, question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
19:32.22wasynyt_eeebah
19:32.30Elive_user31_enI have a computer elive and one on xubuntu I would like to share some files how do I do
19:32.38wasynyt_eeeif you have a question ask and be enlightened
19:32.42Elive_user31_enHi wasynyt
19:32.54wasynyt_eeenfs/smb
19:33.14Elive_user31_enI like smb but not important
19:33.39AlexAnteMachinaElive_user31_en, wasynyt_eee will start to enlighten you now.
19:33.41wasynyt_eeewell smb should work well with the latest dev
19:33.54AlexAnteMachinayo it does!
19:33.54kingdonThanatermesis: programming tutorials with infected mushroom :D
19:33.58AlexAnteMachinacan proof that!
19:34.03Elive_user31_enok so lets go with samba
19:35.56wasynyt_eeehmm.. either elpanel.. or then you could check the options in the right click menu.. so open thunar, go to folder you want to share, and click it with the right mouse button
19:36.04wasynyt_eeeand there should be share options there
19:36.10keyrawasynyt_eee: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
19:36.52wasynyt_eeeapt slap annoying keyra bot
19:36.52aptACTION slaps annoying keyra bot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
19:37.06keyrawasynyt_eee: But... it's true... :(
19:37.11Elive_user31_en6pjh1gyp
19:37.16kingdonoops
19:37.17wasynyt_eee?
19:37.20keyraapt: me?
19:37.21aptextra, extra, read all about it, keyra is a woman-bot who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money... usually by felix
19:37.33Elive_user31_ensorry it was my password
19:37.35Elive_user31_enlol
19:37.36keyraapt: please... stop, or I'll call the op's to kick you :P
19:37.39wasynyt_eee:(
19:37.45Elive_user31_enlol
19:37.57wasynyt_eeehas now the keys of the universum
19:38.01kingdonwasynyt_eee: these bots are so ...
19:38.08kingdonumm
19:38.17Mtrakeruna cosa Thanatermesis , cuando montas (en automount) una unidad no reconoce los acentos, por lo tanto no lo muestra. con nls=utf-8 se arregla. ¿Donde se asigna estos parametros en automount?  
19:38.18kingdonthere's probably a french word for that
19:38.26Elive_user31_enthank you it works
19:38.28wasynyt_eeemost likely
19:38.31keyraMtraker: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
19:38.35wasynyt_eeeElive_user31_en, nice to hear
19:38.45wasynyt_eeeAlexAnteMachina, you have now a fellow believer ;D
19:38.53ThanatermesisMtraker, eso en que version de Elive ?
19:38.59Mtraker51
19:39.05Mtraker1.9.51
19:39.16ThanatermesisMtraker, y "mount" no te muestra este parámetro asignado ?
19:40.20ThanatermesisMtraker, en fat o ntfs ?
19:40.27Mtrakerntfs
19:41.17ThanatermesisMtraker, muestrame las opciones de montado que te da el comando "mount" para ese montaje (con los acentos malos)
19:41.26Mtrakervoy a ver
19:41.33ThanatermesisMtraker, cat /proc/mounts   mas bien
19:42.34Thanatermesismuestrame esas opciones actualas malas a ver si veo de donde viene
19:42.34Mtrakerusbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
19:42.38Mtrakera no
19:42.40Mtrakerespera
19:42.47Mtraker/dev/sdb1 /home/mtraker/1 fuseblk rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,b
19:42.47Mtrakerlksize=4096 0 0
19:44.04Thanatermesismmh
19:44.28ThanatermesisMtraker, no entiendo, que es /home/mtraker/1 ?
19:44.56Mtrakerque he puesto ahi el directorio de montaje
19:45.03Mtrakercuando lo monto a mano
19:45.07Thanatermesisdonde has puesto eso ? como has configurado eso ?
19:45.28Mtraker[root /home/mtraker]# mount -t ntfs-3g -o nls=utf-8 /dev/sdb1 1 -o force
19:45.38Mtrakeren consola par aque monte bien
19:45.49Mtrakerel auto sera el primero que te he dado el de usb
19:45.55Thanatermesispero eso no es el montaje automatico por Elive
19:46.19Thanatermesislogicamente, de esa forma no puedes setear esa opcion en ningun lado, ya que lo haces manualmente
19:46.32Thanatermesisen donde se podría setear es donde se hace por Elive... osea, que metes el usb y se monta solo
19:46.36Mtrakerclaro, porque no me lo lee bien automaticamente
19:46.55Thanatermesisya pero quiero que me des la linea de montaje de la forma automatica para ver las opciones que pone por default :P
19:47.35Mtrakerusbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
19:47.40Mtrakerese es el default
19:48.00Thanatermesisno eso no
19:48.13Thanatermesistiene que ser algo asi como /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1...
19:48.18Thanatermesisosea
19:48.21Thanatermesisdesmontalo
19:48.30Thanatermesissaca el usb y lo vuelves a meter, para que se monte de forma automatica por Elive
19:48.35Mtrakera ok
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19:49.48Mtrakerahora te cuento que me llaman y es urgente
19:50.52Thanatermesisok, pingueame cuando lo tengas
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19:57.03Mtrakerping Thanatermesis
19:58.29ThanatermesisMtraker,
19:58.56Mtraker/dev/sdb1 /media/disk fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allo
19:58.56Mtrakerw_other,blksize=4096 0 0
19:59.34Thanatermesisaha
20:01.55Thanatermesisque raro no encuentro estas opciones
20:03.16Mtrakery el script que me has dado antes me da un error : Error parsing option on the command line: -o
20:03.48Thanatermesisque script ?
20:03.53Thanatermesisah vale
20:04.05Thanatermesissi, cambia $2 pour output-video.avi  y $1 por  input-video.avi
20:04.11Thanatermesisbueno, hazte un script con el, mejor
20:04.19Mtrakerok
20:04.24Thanatermesisy lo llamas asi:  script video-in video-out
20:04.59Mtrakerookkkkkkkkk
20:05.36Mtrakercomo le doy formato 16:9?
20:05.39Mtraker-resize?
20:07.03Thanatermesisah
20:07.04Thanatermesisa ver
20:07.30Thanatermesis-vf scale=320:240
20:10.07ThanatermesisMtraker, la razon creo que es porque se monta con exo-mount y almenos, no permite opciones... mira a ver si puedes conseguir este montaje con pmount (en vez de mount), el cual puedes lanzarlo desde usuario
20:10.40Thanatermesiso pmount-hal, prueba ambos
20:12.22Mtrakerno puedo
20:12.52Thanatermesisel que ?
20:13.30Mtrakerahora
20:13.37Mtrakersi que monta con pmount-hal
20:14.03Thanatermesiscon la opcion buena ?
20:14.16Mtrakersi
20:14.23Thanatermesisporque se la pasas o porque es automatico asi ?
20:14.36Mtrakerpmount-hal /deb/dsb1
20:14.41Mtrakery lo monta solo
20:14.49Mtrakerlo asigna bien
20:15.27Thanatermesisy pmount a secas ?
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20:16.41Mtrakertmbien
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20:16.48Mtrakergracias
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20:17.13Mtrakerme tire dos dias con testdisk y el photorec hasta que cai en esto
20:17.28Thanatermesisjeje
20:17.47ThanatermesisMtraker, bueno, lo tengo apuntado para mirarmelo... vesme recordandolo si Elive no lo arregla por defecto en las siguientes versiones :)
20:18.05Thanatermesistengo que dedicar un buen rato a mirarlo bien ya que depende de otras cosas
20:18.12Mtrakerok
20:18.19Thanatermesisbueno... mas bien, avisame si las versiones pre-estables tienen aun el bug, sobretodo
20:18.35Mtrakervale
20:18.44Mtrakervoy a pegar un bocado
20:18.47Mtrakerahora vuelvo
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20:26.43Elive_user51_dehallo alex, ich habe jetzt elive neu aufgesetzt mit komprimiertem root
20:34.30AlexAnteMachinaaha.
20:35.03Elive_user51_dejaja
20:35.11AlexAnteMachinana dann.
20:35.14Elive_user51_dealso es läuft
20:35.33Elive_user51_deaber mehr cpu verbrauch als nachteil?
20:37.46Elive_user51_deh
20:38.14Elive_user51_dehome als reiserfs
20:38.39Elive_user51_dekönnen es andere systeme wie ubuntu auch lesen?
20:41.35wasynytElive_user51_de, if you have reiserfs filesystem that is not encrypted you can read it from nearly any linux distribution
20:41.46wasynytapt x en de  Elive_user51_de, if you have reiserfs filesystem that is not encrypted you can read it from nearly any linux distribution
20:44.52Elive_user51_dethx wasynyt you have translated to thx
20:45.01wasynyt:D
20:45.33Elive_user51_dethank you in finnish?
20:45.44wasynytkiitos
20:47.02Elive_user51_debut why dos ffox not accept the addons? icewiesel
20:47.12wasynytwhat version
20:47.15Elive_user51_dedrive me mad
20:47.34Elive_user51_deelive debian lenny vers. 3.06
20:47.46wasynytif you have old iceweasel/ff it wont work with newer plugins
20:48.03wasynytcheck if the plugin says that it is compatible with your version
20:48.16Elive_user51_debut dont take the normals too
20:48.32Elive_user51_deyes but not working
20:48.45Elive_user51_deuse opera 10.10 now
20:49.15Elive_user51_dehow can i use the new fox?
20:49.32Elive_user51_de3.5.5
20:49.39wasynytback up your important bookmarks and remove .mozilla folder
20:49.47wasynytthen log out and log in
20:49.54keyrawasynyt: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
20:49.57wasynytand restart ff
20:50.06wasynytthat might fix your problems
20:50.29Elive_user51_dehave no bookmarks
20:50.43wasynytthen there should be no problems doing that
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20:50.53wasynytit will revert the ff to the default settings
20:50.57wasynytgood evening PrinceAMD
20:51.03Elive_user51_deis there an debian version of ffox 3.5.5?
20:51.09wasynytyes
20:51.13PrinceAMDgood evening wasynyt
20:52.33wasynythow are you doing PrinceAMD
20:52.55PrinceAMDwasynyt, good i just got my 8600gt working back
20:53.16PrinceAMDwasynyt, i had to put on 2 new capacitors
20:53.22wasynytreally
20:53.28PrinceAMDyep
20:53.37wasynytElive_user51_de, http://packages.debian.org/sid/iceweasel
20:53.41PrinceAMD01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
20:53.45wasynytand that fixed it
20:53.45PrinceAMDback in action :)
20:53.48wasynytnice
20:53.57wasynyti have geforce 8400 gs
20:54.04wasynyt:P
20:54.09PrinceAMDi had to change 2 6.3v 1500uf caps
20:54.33wasynytthose are quite large.. does it really have that kind of parts
20:54.50PrinceAMDyeah
20:55.08PrinceAMDi took 2 out of a old mainboard n put it on , now the card works great
20:56.29Elive_user51_dewasynyt, can i install about 3.06
20:58.23wasynytwell i have not tested wether that will install or not, you could also get the package from mozilla.org, which is intented to be for every linux distro
20:58.26Elive_user51_deor first remove by synapticmanager?
20:58.42wasynytwell i would try removing it first
20:58.56Elive_user51_deok
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21:40.59AlexAnteMachinawasynyt_eee, ping
21:41.49wasynytAlexAnteMachina, pong
21:42.31AlexAnteMachinado you know the name of elive's default "systray"?
21:43.24wasynytnope
21:43.34LinuxNITtrayer i think... look in .elxstart
21:43.54LinuxNITalthough now there is an e17 tray module
21:44.36AlexAnteMachinayo. it seems to be trayer. thanks. I want to test that e17 tray module.
21:44.43AlexAnteMachinabut trayer stands in my way.
21:44.45AlexAnteMachina:)
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22:07.49wasynytgood night people
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22:22.53she_dyedgnite
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22:39.28Elive_user28_eshello
22:45.48BiG_NoBoDygood night
22:47.09she_dyedhello
22:48.56kingdonhi!
22:49.21she_dyedhey there
22:49.59kingdonwhats good :D
22:50.24she_dyedpacpc2
22:50.35she_dyedpacman classic on dosbox
22:50.40she_dyed:)
22:52.38she_dyed207000score today, my highest was 496000
22:52.44kingdonrocky horror picture show (demonoid).avi
22:52.58kingdonlol
22:53.28kingdonnot up for a movie right now
22:53.32kingdonmaybe ought to code first
22:54.32kingdonbut what language
22:54.34kingdon:x
22:54.55she_dyedC! thana posted a video on how to code a module
22:55.01kingdoni saw
22:55.05she_dyed10 minute video
22:55.08kingdoni was actually just about to download xephyr
22:55.10kingdonlol
22:55.47kingdonneat
22:56.06kingdonit grabs mouse, and it doesn't require me to have a whole nother operating system
22:56.13kingdonnow I can decide if I'm coding for X11 or not :D
22:58.44kingdoni'm supposed to learn aspectj too
22:58.49kingdoni really ought to do some java hacking
22:59.01kingdonclass doesn't start for 3 weeks
23:03.56kingdondamn i just noticed this xterm responds to ctrl+rightclick interestingly
23:04.57she_dyedi dont remember if you can customize it
23:05.07she_dyedthat behavior
23:05.31BiG_NoBoDyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBM0swqOAf0
23:06.05BiG_NoBoDythe last one
23:14.53kingdonmaybe i can write a cashboard plugin for e17
23:20.24she_dyedyou mean dashboard?
23:23.30kingdonno, cashboard
23:23.32kingdonsubimage llc
23:23.48kingdonit comes with a yahoo dashboard plugin
23:24.00kingdoni think those are compatible with superkaramba
23:24.17kingdonbasically makes your computer look like a taxicab while you run it
23:24.24kingdonand you can get these neat pdf invoices
23:24.37kingdongreat for dealing with over-the-shoulder type collaborations :D
23:24.53kingdon"hey man, have you got any change so I can get something to eat?"
23:24.53kingdonhaha
23:28.44*** join/#elive KaKaRoTo (i=kakaroto@modemcable106.191-70-69.static.videotron.ca)
23:33.34kingdondamn i can't believe how much space mail can take
23:34.59kingdoni was giving an elive demo yesterday
23:35.02twiggzdebian backports is giving me shit with pidgin
23:35.06twiggzepic fail
23:35.19kingdonand i had to go into shelfs to demonstrate that it's really different from windows
23:35.34kingdonthere's so few words you can use to point to stuff in elive that won't confound someone who's never touched the system
23:36.02kingdonbut they both thought it was amusing when I accidentally made the clock disappear
23:36.18kingdon"well i don't know what menu i'm going to have to go into to get that back, lets move on to something else now shall we"
23:41.10she_dyedoh look over there!
23:41.19she_dyedu could always use distraction
23:47.34kingdonif i had better paintings
23:47.47kingdonsomeone actually left me a wicked painting in my closet
23:47.51kingdonand I think there's a projector too
23:47.55kingdonunless it's a giant printer

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