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00:43.31EngelHola :)
00:44.01Engeluna pregunta un tanto ignorante :) se puede instalar Elive desde un liveusb ?
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01:35.33eliveNOVICEyo
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10:22.06AlexAnteeehi all
10:22.53AlexAnteeeThanatermesis, hi!
10:23.11AlexAnteeedid you read my hint concerning dropbox?
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10:42.53AlexAnteeeseems he'S not reading anything...
10:42.55AlexAnteee?
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11:10.06Elive_user99_enhey people
11:11.23Pocketanyone feel like offering some assistance with an intel graphics problem ?
11:16.27AlexAnteeehi Pocket
11:16.36Pockethey there
11:17.15AlexAnteeeintel-gfx working on my testings-pc and on the eeepc quite well with elive.
11:18.44AlexAnteeePocket, so what are your problems?
11:20.10PocketDid you install any new drivers ?  After I installed Elive (1,9,51) it worked, however was a little slow...  After changing a couple of the Ecomorph settings and rebooting I just get a black desktop, and the "flame" effects when left or right clicking.  Turn Ecomorph off and it goes back to normal
11:20.46PocketI'm using a Lenovo T400 laptop, which has an Intel graphics card (laptop is less than a year old)
11:21.29Pocketbeen searching for latest intel drivers, but it looks like they need a newer version of the xserver-xorg-core component than the Elive repositories have
11:22.42AlexAnteeek.
11:22.44AlexAnteeecalm down.
11:23.00AlexAnteeeso this is a ecomorph related problem.
11:23.25AlexAnteeeecomorph is quite unstable.
11:23.32Pocketyeah, I think so
11:23.34Pocketah
11:23.41AlexAnteeeso just disable it.
11:25.09Pocketwell yeah that will do the trick, but kinda loose all of the glossy stuff that Elive has to offer if i do that :(
11:25.35AlexAnteeeand concerning the drivers: intel-gfx is, frankly spoken, CRAP.
11:27.09Pocketyeah, lol.  Work laptop, not my choice :P :)
11:27.30AlexAnteeek
11:27.55AlexAnteeethe drivers coming with elive should be working quite well.
11:28.10AlexAnteeeusing them on eee and on my testings pc.
11:28.40Pocketare you using the latest development release ?
11:28.45AlexAnteeeyo
11:29.06Pocketah k
11:29.28Pocketmaybe I should go back to using my eee as well then lol
11:29.43AlexAnteeeu got an eee, too?
11:29.45AlexAnteeewhich one?
11:29.50Pocketyeah, 1000HA
11:29.54AlexAnteeelol
11:30.03AlexAnteeegot an 1000h go.
11:30.06Pocketheh, it's not too bad
11:30.08Pocketnice
11:30.24AlexAnteeejup. its a nice device.
11:31.50AlexAnteeejust its gfx-chipset is sub-optimised.
11:34.30AlexAnteeePocket, your experiences in using ecomorph are quite preciouse!
11:35.11AlexAnteeehow about reporting them on bugs.elivecd.org
11:35.25keyraAlexAnteee: http://bugs.elivecd.org
11:35.52Pocketyeah
11:36.00PocketI will do, good idea
11:36.06AlexAnteeeits under heavy development.
11:36.25AlexAnteeehave you tried a upgrade lately?
11:37.12Pocketwell I only installed (for the first time) a few days ago
11:37.27AlexAnteeek
11:37.35AlexAnteeeso you did not.
11:37.43AlexAnteeetry it.
11:37.54Pocketjust trying now
11:39.25AlexAnteeeYou gonna make it!
11:40.19Pocketlol, we will see
11:40.34AlexAnteeeYes, you can!
11:41.08AlexAnteeeJust believe in the eee-Force.
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11:42.04Pocketheheh
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11:44.17AlexAnteeeBy the Power of Debian! My EeePC's got the Power!
11:44.32keyraAlexAnteee: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
11:44.33Pocketgo the Eee !  
11:44.44AlexAnteeeto where?
11:44.59AlexAnteeeoh there!?
11:45.01AlexAnteeewell...
11:45.04Pocketlimitless places :)
11:45.18AlexAnteeegot fonCused.
11:45.25Pocketah lol
11:46.34Pocketwell i need to reboot, and then prolly head to bed.  I'll be back on XChat another time for sure ! :)
11:46.34PocketAdios and thnx for the help
11:46.34AlexAnteeeyo...
11:46.34AlexAnteeecu
11:46.34AlexAnteeewelcome.
11:46.34AlexAnteeenite down under.
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11:51.40AlexAnteeehey PrinceAMD
11:51.43AlexAnteeeo/
11:52.13PrinceAMDhey AlexAnteee l
11:53.20AlexAnteeePrinceAMD, do you know dropbox?
11:54.00PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, it's a php fancy image thing?
11:55.03AlexAnteeeyes. it's for syncronising data on several computer and online storage.
11:55.33PrinceAMDnope dont know it
11:55.39AlexAnteee:(
11:55.56AlexAnteeebut you know what im talking about.
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11:56.26PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, online backup
11:56.54PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, send me the page about dropbox
11:56.59AlexAnteeeonline backup AND syncing at once.
11:57.03AlexAnteeehttp://www.dropbox.com/
11:57.21AlexAnteeethe video is quite good.
11:57.56PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, why not use rsync it's the same thing
11:58.07AlexAnteeedunno rsync.
11:58.20PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, apt-get install rsync
11:58.25PrinceAMDor check synaptic for it
11:59.48PrinceAMDWTF dropbox is 18mb :/
12:00.39AlexAnteeewell, so you've watched the vid.
12:00.43AlexAnteeek
12:01.08PrinceAMDno, i have not watched it yet
12:01.17PrinceAMDok let me watch
12:04.01PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, i must say dropbox seems nice
12:04.26AlexAnteeeyep. unfortunately it only works nicely with damn nautilus.
12:04.41keyraAlexAnteee: Nautilus is bloated, just like Konqueror! Do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other Distros? Why are you using Elive then?
12:05.13PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, that's because "nautilus" has is not just a folder browser, but also a network brower
12:05.27keyraPrinceAMD: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
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12:08.12AlexAnteeePrinceAMD, the point is Dropbox is not opensource.
12:08.39AlexAnteeenobody even knows how they store the data in their "Cloud".
12:09.07PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, and also i would not put my [personal life] on it
12:09.32PrinceAMDu'd need to have a damn good Internet connection to use it too
12:09.45AlexAnteeeThey just recommend to encrypt all data before uploading.
12:09.58PrinceAMDah :)
12:10.26AlexAnteeeso i was thinking there should be a service like that based on opensource.
12:10.48PrinceAMDimpossible
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12:10.57AlexAnteeehuh?
12:11.11AlexAnteeewhy that?
12:11.16PrinceAMDthe online storage is going to be cost allot
12:11.45AlexAnteeei was talking about Open Source! Not free of any charge.
12:11.46PrinceAMDalso we have rsync already :)
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12:12.05PrinceAMDrsync basically does the same thing AlexAnteee
12:12.12Mtrakerhi
12:12.18PrinceAMDhi Mtraker
12:12.41AlexAnteeePrinceAMD, guess I've to get a closer look at rsync.
12:12.50PrinceAMDAlexAnteee, yes :)
12:19.38AlexAnteeewell, just read some about rsync.
12:20.01AlexAnteeeI'll need to do some trials.
12:21.09AlexAnteeeprobably i can build some nice sync/backup-thing on my own.
12:23.18AlexAnteeeokay. I have to leave now.
12:23.24AlexAnteeesee you later.
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13:20.00Mtrakerhi other time
13:22.07Mtrakerwhat's the aplication name where the aplications minimice, but skype, pidguin, notes. These part. Because I open two monitor I don't see that and I cant open pidgin window
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13:30.54batdenMtraker: elive use ibox, e17 has a builtin systray module
13:33.07MtrakerNot is that,whe u star elive for first time, in the corner down left is the note
13:33.26Mtrakerwhen you open pidgin it's there too
13:33.31Mtrakerand skype
13:34.19batdenisn't it ibox in a shelf?
13:35.00Mtrakershelf?
13:36.49batdenlook in e17 config panel
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13:44.02batdenconfig panel → extensions → shelves...
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13:52.52batdenMtraker: are you taking about trayer (corner down left)?
13:53.52Mtrakeryes but i see now , the problem it's two monitors.
13:54.10batdenelive use shelves and the trayer program...
13:54.20batdenok
13:54.21MtrakerThe firs time tun ok with notes, but if you open other progrma
13:54.27Mtrakerthanks a lot
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16:08.41wasynytgood evening people
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16:22.22AlexAnteMachinahi all
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16:26.08AlexAnteMachinahey folks!
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16:26.11AlexAnteMachina:)
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18:44.19Elive_user6_enname
18:44.22Elive_user6_enlol
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20:20.35Elive_user51_deelive upgrade
20:20.50keyraElive_user51_de: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
20:21.05Elive_user51_deoh yeh thx keyra
20:27.26Wizardhi!
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20:46.33*** topic/#elive is Elive 2.0 is on the way ! || Collaborate: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate || Want e-module creation demo ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abNsVyYTSkU
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21:53.32Der_Maschinisthowdy folks
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22:10.13Der_Maschinistjust figured out upgradeing from gem to 1.9.xx does not have to work mandatorily
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23:24.22PrinceAMDapt seen Thanatermesis
23:24.26aptthanatermesis <n=unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 1d 1h 1m 3s ago, saying: 'Wizard, ping'.
23:24.44PrinceAMDapt, how accurate is this?
23:24.46aptI think you lost me on that one, PrinceAMD
23:24.52PrinceAMDapt, never mind
23:24.53aptok princeamd
23:25.01PrinceAMDapt, keep up the good work
23:25.21PrinceAMDapt!
23:25.42PrinceAMDapt?
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