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| 02:02.31 | Elive_user78_en | hello |
| 02:03.21 | elive | ok |
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| 07:28.05 | Elive_user84_en | Hello |
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| 07:56.22 | Elive_user40_en | Compiz help |
| 07:56.49 | Elive_user40_en | Can anyone advise me how to modify the Compiz settings. I've looked everywhere and ecsm on cli doesn't work. |
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| 08:58.59 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Hello ItCrowd |
| 08:59.01 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | :) |
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| 11:05.00 | AlexAnteee | hi DronAn[BY]_eeepc |
| 11:05.23 | AlexAnteee | uh.. Thanatermesis is online again. |
| 11:05.27 | AlexAnteee | Hi thana! |
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| 11:29.50 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Wooooow |
| 11:29.54 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Hello Thanatermesis |
| 11:30.02 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | AlexAnteee, Hi |
| 11:32.13 | AlexAnteee | hey DronAn[BY]_eeepc |
| 11:32.48 | AlexAnteee | your are somewhere from russia, aren't you? |
| 11:34.36 | AlexAnteee | I was just watching some documentary about a long trip through russia. |
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| 11:47.56 | AlexAnteee | DronAn[BY]_eeepc, ping |
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| 14:38.47 | MetaPhaze | can anyone help me with this? |
| 14:39.14 | MetaPhaze | VirtualBox 3.0.12 Guest Additions installation Please install the build and header files for your current Linux kernel. The current kernel version is 2.6.18-elive |
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| 16:49.54 | Elive_user95_en | hi, where is the package manager on the live install? |
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| 17:09.46 | Elive_user85_en | elive the best |
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| 17:32.25 | AlexAnteMachina | hey Thanatermesis |
| 17:32.28 | AlexAnteMachina | o/ |
| 17:32.42 | Thanatermesis | hi AlexAnteMachina |
| 17:32.49 | AlexAnteMachina | How are you? |
| 17:33.10 | AlexAnteMachina | is quite exhausted from cooking |
| 17:33.58 | AlexAnteMachina | Made a "Freestyle" chicken-curry. |
| 17:34.35 | AlexAnteMachina | What are you doing, Thanatermesis ? |
| 17:38.04 | Thanatermesis | finished to work with the website, AlexAnteMachina |
| 17:38.39 | AlexAnteMachina | I had a look at the website about 1 - 2 hours ago and did not recognize any changes. |
| 17:38.58 | AlexAnteMachina | did you work on some other website then elivecd.org? |
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| 17:40.09 | AlexAnteMachina | I know... that sounds unbelievable, but I found that there are millions and millions of websites out there!!! Besides the elive Homepage!! REALLY!!!! |
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| 18:04.09 | Thanatermesis | AlexAnteMachina, yes, other website, so that not broke the original one :) |
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| 19:48.33 | reeher | I'm having a bit of a problem, and I don |
| 19:49.51 | reeher | and I don't know how to solve it. I'm using Elive at work as a way to get people interested in GNU software in general and Linux in specific. The sheer beauty and speed of Elive is the reason I chose it for my 'backdoor-demonstration' system. But.... |
| 19:50.52 | reeher | Many of the packages offered in Elive are significantly out of date, which seriously compromises my ability to use the latest tools .... |
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| 19:51.46 | wasynyt | reeher, hmm |
| 19:51.47 | reeher | I have tried updating packages one at a time as needed, but it is getting WAY too time intensive. So I must look elsewhere for solutions. |
| 19:52.14 | wasynyt | could you create a list of application that need updating a |
| 19:52.16 | reeher | What I"d like to do is use the Elive Enlightment binaries running on Debian unstable. |
| 19:52.30 | keyra | reeher: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 19:52.45 | wasynyt | and maybe add reason for every update.. like newer feature has this feature... |
| 19:53.06 | Elive_user41_en | wow this disto is very impressive |
| 19:53.20 | reeher | wasynyt: The problem is, I'm not sure what packages need to be updated.. |
| 19:53.46 | reeher | wasynyt: When I find I need something, I start to investigate it.. for instance Firefox.. and Openoffice.. |
| 19:54.24 | wasynyt | only the main apps would need to be listed, as libaries will be updated as needed |
| 19:54.24 | reeher | and Scribus, which I had to add in seperately ( I don't use it, but someone asked if there was a publishing software...) |
| 19:54.45 | wasynyt | good evening Elive_user41_en |
| 19:54.54 | Elive_user41_en | hi there |
| 19:54.58 | reeher | wasynyt: Ok, how about this.. I'll build a short list of the primary applications and post them to the forums.. would that help? |
| 19:55.09 | wasynyt | yes |
| 19:55.12 | reeher | keyra: Yes, I normally use Deb |
| 19:55.23 | wasynyt | apt slap keyra bot |
| 19:55.24 | apt | ACTION slaps keyra bot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:55.24 | mkultrasElive | this is a .deb based distro , correct? |
| 19:55.28 | wasynyt | yes |
| 19:55.37 | keyra | wasynyt: But... it's true... :( |
| 19:55.37 | mkultrasElive | rpm and apt-get both were present |
| 19:55.38 | mkultrasElive | heh |
| 19:55.46 | mkultrasElive | so its based from debian |
| 19:55.51 | keyra | apt_: me? |
| 19:55.52 | mkultrasElive | or ubuntu or something |
| 19:56.07 | wasynyt | debian |
| 19:56.30 | wasynyt | and deb (apt-get) is the main way to handle software |
| 20:06.41 | reeher | Ahah.. wasynyt: I think I have discovered the problem.... |
| 20:06.55 | keyra | reeher: Don't be shy! Just ask. :) |
| 20:06.56 | reeher | The problem is not Elive, but rather, the problem is me.. |
| 20:07.08 | wasynyt | hmm this sounds intersting |
| 20:07.48 | reeher | I have grown so used to using Debin Unstable that I'd forgotten that Stable is VERY far behind in terms of current software. |
| 20:08.20 | reeher | Hence the perception on my part that the repositories are not up to date. |
| 20:08.37 | wasynyt | heh |
| 20:08.39 | reeher | When in fact they are absolutely current for the half dozen packages I just checked. |
| 20:08.57 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 20:09.19 | wasynyt | but you could add request for scribus, if that is not included |
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| 20:12.28 | reeher | Hmm.. now the probelm is a different on altogether. How can I get the ELive functionality on Debian Unstable. Is there extensive modification of the E17 packages to get the ELive functionality, or can I (hypothetically) take my ~/me directory, back it up, note the enlightenment packages currently installed, install a clean version of Debian unstable, install the packages for Elive and drop in my ~? Wow, that sounds.. risky.. but is it possible? |
| 20:12.34 | reeher | sorry for the length. |
| 20:12.43 | keyra | reeher: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 20:12.54 | reeher | keyra: thanks, bot girl. |
| 20:13.09 | keyra | reeher: welcome :) |
| 20:13.10 | wasynyt | reeher, that might work, but as elives e17 is compiled against stable |
| 20:13.29 | wasynyt | it could create some interesting problems |
| 20:13.35 | reeher | wasynyt: can I get the sources? do they have config scripts? |
| 20:13.43 | reeher | Well, I know I can get the sources.. |
| 20:13.46 | reeher | Duh.. |
| 20:13.57 | reeher | Hmm... |
| 20:14.16 | wasynyt | hmm.. have you checked that there are no src deb in the repo |
| 20:14.22 | reeher | I'll have to try that.. so it's a matter of time now.. LOL.. it always comes down to that, dosen't it... |
| 20:14.23 | wasynyt | cant remember |
| 20:14.42 | wasynyt | yup |
| 20:14.47 | reeher | wasynyt: I'm sure the sources are available, if nothing else, I could just ask for them. |
| 20:15.05 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 20:15.26 | reeher | Whew.. I think I'll try it the first way, and if it fails, I'll tyr building from source. |
| 20:15.37 | wasynyt | yup |
| 20:17.32 | reeher | I've built E by hand before, no big deal really, just a matter of getting the libs correct. The setting to get the slick interfaces are the last factor.. OK, cool enough, I'll go away and drop notes as I go to the forums. Thanks Wasynyt. |
| 20:17.56 | wasynyt | your welcome |
| 20:18.16 | wasynyt | and i think you could use the .e folder config from your home |
| 20:18.31 | keyra | wasynyt: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils |
| 20:20.00 | reeher | sorry.. gotta try this... |
| 20:20.05 | reeher | keyra: metaphor sheer |
| 20:20.15 | reeher | metaphor shear |
| 20:20.17 | reeher | even |
| 20:20.37 | reeher | sheesh |
| 20:20.37 | reeher | keyra: metaphor shear |
| 20:20.38 | reeher | !metaphor shear |
| 20:20.46 | reeher | Nope, oh well. :) |
| 20:20.58 | wasynyt | ? |
| 20:21.54 | reeher | I wanted to see if the bot recognized the term metaphor shear, from Gibson's "In the beginning was the command line", since she was referring to it in the statement about Microsoft she just made. |
| 20:22.28 | reeher | Err, not Gibson, Stephenson.. sheesh. |
| 20:22.54 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:24.27 | reeher | http://steve-parker.org/articles/others/stephenson/metaphor.shtml |
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| 21:07.30 | she_dyed | brb |
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| 22:11.47 | she_dyed | and there he goes |
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| 22:14.17 | she_dyed | rock and roll |
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| 23:05.44 | she_dyed | dang man wb ROXVILLE! |
| 23:05.54 | she_dyed | o/ |
| 23:06.02 | roxville | hey she_dyed :) |
| 23:06.14 | she_dyed | and how s life been treating you |
| 23:06.26 | roxville | not too bad |
| 23:06.39 | roxville | gigs are slowing down drastically now |
| 23:07.06 | she_dyed | because of the season? |
| 23:07.11 | roxville | so i think we are definitely gonna move to the tampa area next summer |
| 23:07.30 | roxville | yes because of the season...chucktown sucks in the winter |
| 23:07.40 | she_dyed | you been there before, you think you'll be over in pinellas or Tampa |
| 23:07.44 | keyra | roxville: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 23:08.04 | roxville | ok keyra i will! thanks :) |
| 23:08.18 | keyra | roxville: welcome :) |
| 23:08.24 | she_dyed | heh |
| 23:08.26 | roxville | msg keyra: CHARLESTON SUCKS IN THE WINTER!!! |
| 23:08.42 | roxville | not sure yet |
| 23:09.05 | roxville | we're gonna go down right after xmas and have a little lookaround |
| 23:09.48 | roxville | it seems just north of downtown, in hillsborough county... |
| 23:09.54 | roxville | wth was the name again... |
| 23:10.03 | roxville | carrollwood |
| 23:10.11 | she_dyed | yes |
| 23:10.38 | roxville | seems to be... not bad, as far as schools, commute and so on |
| 23:10.50 | she_dyed | uh huh think i remember |
| 23:11.04 | she_dyed | i kinda miss it in a way |
| 23:11.36 | roxville | it's cheaper than miami or ft lauderdale, that's fer damn sure |
| 23:11.51 | she_dyed | and not as 'foreign' feeling at all |
| 23:12.17 | roxville | well... not sure i'd mind that :) |
| 23:13.03 | she_dyed | heh |
| 23:13.14 | she_dyed | yeah might even work out better |
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| 23:13.58 | roxville | anyway, ppl come to fl during the winter, so i shouldn't have as much of a season glitch as i do here |
| 23:14.17 | she_dyed | i agree |
| 23:14.55 | roxville | wasynyt, good...evening...or...night |
| 23:15.02 | wasynyt | night |
| 23:15.09 | wasynyt | good evening to you as well |
| 23:15.23 | she_dyed | :) |
| 23:15.59 | she_dyed | anyone have an idea on adding an x11 font? |
| 23:16.06 | she_dyed | there seems to be no xfs |
| 23:16.18 | wasynyt | ? |
| 23:16.46 | roxville | ? |
| 23:17.01 | she_dyed | i dont see fontpaths in xorg. |
| 23:17.06 | she_dyed | xorg.conf |
| 23:17.10 | wasynyt | ahh |
| 23:17.14 | roxville | i wanna know how to add a HD that's been re-formatted |
| 23:17.23 | wasynyt | isnt there /usr/share/fonts |
| 23:17.36 | wasynyt | roxville, hmm |
| 23:17.49 | roxville | yeah, that fonts should be all there, even the x11 ones |
| 23:17.58 | wasynyt | do you know the filesystem ? |
| 23:18.15 | wasynyt | you could do as root |
| 23:18.23 | wasynyt | mkdir /mnt/mydir |
| 23:18.26 | roxville | i have been gone so much, that i can't even remember the app that handles the HD's now |
| 23:18.29 | wasynyt | mount /dev/sda1 |
| 23:18.37 | wasynyt | or just use gparted |
| 23:18.52 | roxville | nope, elive uses that...that stuff i can't remember |
| 23:19.00 | roxville | i see it in gparted |
| 23:19.13 | roxville | but thunar doesn't see it |
| 23:19.21 | she_dyed | not elpanel? |
| 23:19.22 | roxville | and it won't mount |
| 23:19.22 | wasynyt | well it is not mounted |
| 23:19.26 | she_dyed | samba? |
| 23:19.29 | wasynyt | any errors |
| 23:19.36 | roxville | it's a ntfs drive |
| 23:19.42 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 23:19.57 | wasynyt | you might need root priviledges to mount it |
| 23:20.13 | roxville | so i can watch my pi-rated movies in win7 as well :) |
| 23:20.30 | wasynyt | :P |
| 23:20.36 | roxville | not that i do... |
| 23:20.46 | roxville | whistles |
| 23:20.58 | she_dyed | heh theres g-rated r-rated x-rated |
| 23:21.01 | she_dyed | pi-rated |
| 23:21.27 | roxville | yes, totally round movies |
| 23:21.45 | she_dyed | must be accompanied by 3.14 adults |
| 23:21.58 | roxville | lol |
| 23:22.25 | roxville | not just movies like that |
| 23:22.50 | roxville | but i refuse to download anything when in winders |
| 23:23.28 | roxville | is it udev that adds that weird number/name to the drives? |
| 23:23.43 | roxville | instead of /dev/sda* |
| 23:23.44 | wasynyt | i guess |
| 23:23.51 | she_dyed | so its by id |
| 23:24.02 | she_dyed | i still use the sda* |
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| 23:24.39 | she_dyed | it will still take |
| 23:24.41 | roxville | UUID=5a0fa92f-36ed-4246-8a17-5fc61cff2032noneswapsw00 |
| 23:25.01 | she_dyed | swap? |
| 23:25.09 | LinuxNIT | ohhh roxville is alive |
| 23:25.11 | roxville | well, that was just that line |
| 23:25.17 | roxville | to show the UUID |
| 23:25.25 | roxville | ooohhh... maybe... |
| 23:25.36 | she_dyed | careful. well it wont mount |
| 23:25.41 | she_dyed | it will err out |
| 23:25.48 | roxville | LinuxNIT, yep... getting older... but i'm getting used to it |
| 23:26.08 | roxville | she_dyed, i'm not trying to mount the swap |
| 23:26.19 | LinuxNIT | swapon? |
| 23:26.20 | she_dyed | you just wanted to show uid |
| 23:26.48 | she_dyed | LinuxNIT: he wants to mount an ntfs part |
| 23:27.01 | LinuxNIT | oh woops i read that wrong |
| 23:27.04 | LinuxNIT | sorry not feeling well |
| 23:27.11 | LinuxNIT | what partition? |
| 23:27.13 | roxville | ok, i just changed fstab to the correct fs |
| 23:27.58 | roxville | crap |
| 23:28.03 | she_dyed | oops phone gtg...rox stay in touch ...i'll bbl |
| 23:28.12 | roxville | so i need to give it a new uuid somehow |
| 23:28.22 | roxville | probably easiest to reinstall |
| 23:28.33 | roxville | ok she_dyed |
| 23:28.37 | she_dyed | try mount /sda* then see what uuid it gets |
| 23:28.48 | she_dyed | in df -h i think |
| 23:28.56 | she_dyed | later \o |
| 23:29.02 | roxville | UUID=f7f9f43f-4ea8-4092-945d-bbeb6f3b366f /mnt/sdd1 ntfs-3g defaults,auto 0 2 |
| 23:29.11 | roxville | this is the correct one |
| 23:29.24 | roxville | it was ext3, not changed to ntfs-3g |
| 23:29.33 | roxville | i mean NOW |
| 23:29.35 | roxville | not not |
| 23:29.37 | roxville | lol |
| 23:29.54 | roxville | helluva typo |
| 23:30.39 | LinuxNIT | what is not working right? |
| 23:32.51 | roxville | my newly formatted drive |
| 23:33.03 | roxville | fstab still has the old uuid |
| 23:33.16 | roxville | and just changing stuff at the end...doesn't seem to help |
| 23:33.18 | LinuxNIT | blkid will show you the uuids |
| 23:33.29 | roxville | ok... |
| 23:34.07 | roxville | /dev/sdd1: UUID="7A65C5DC39C6EB77" TYPE="ntfs" LABEL="New Volume" |
| 23:34.19 | roxville | so add that to fstab? |
| 23:34.27 | LinuxNIT | yes the uuid |
| 23:35.10 | LinuxNIT | UUID="7A65C5DC39C6EB77" /mnt/path ntfs-3g defaults,users 0 0 |
| 23:35.17 | LinuxNIT | or whatever options you want |
| 23:36.01 | roxville | wow! |
| 23:36.06 | roxville | i think it worked! |
| 23:36.09 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:36.15 | roxville | YES! |
| 23:36.21 | LinuxNIT | tadaa |
| 23:36.42 | roxville | gives LinuxNIT a long overdue hug...and a kiss on the forehead |
| 23:36.50 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:37.35 | LinuxNIT | fyi... you can also get the uuid like this |
| 23:37.38 | LinuxNIT | ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 23:37.50 | LinuxNIT | -l is often helpful |
| 23:38.20 | roxville | blkid worked fine |
| 23:38.30 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:38.31 | roxville | and not THAT hard to remember :) |
| 23:38.47 | LinuxNIT | true |
| 23:39.58 | roxville | how's amy? |
| 23:40.29 | LinuxNIT | doing good |
| 23:40.43 | roxville | glad to hear it :) |
| 23:40.51 | LinuxNIT | enjoying her new job |
| 23:41.03 | LinuxNIT | its a bit of a drive but much better environment |
| 23:41.16 | LinuxNIT | and hourly instead of salary |
| 23:41.20 | roxville | what she doing? |
| 23:41.21 | LinuxNIT | salary is a joke |
| 23:41.23 | roxville | oh wait |
| 23:41.31 | roxville | she's a...social worker? |
| 23:41.34 | LinuxNIT | nope |
| 23:41.52 | LinuxNIT | but she does work with one ;) |
| 23:41.58 | LinuxNIT | some times |
| 23:42.06 | roxville | lol |
| 23:42.13 | LinuxNIT | RN |
| 23:42.19 | roxville | ahhh |
| 23:42.24 | roxville | and the salary sucks? |
| 23:42.38 | keyra | roxville: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 23:42.39 | LinuxNIT | yes cause they want you to work more than the 40 hours a week |
| 23:42.44 | LinuxNIT | a lot more |
| 23:42.49 | roxville | she should be making like $25/hour |
| 23:42.55 | roxville | oh yeah |
| 23:42.56 | LinuxNIT | more :) |
| 23:43.04 | roxville | yeah |
| 23:43.21 | LinuxNIT | so on hourly she gets time and a half on overtime |
| 23:43.30 | roxville | ya |
| 23:43.32 | LinuxNIT | or something like that |
| 23:44.05 | LinuxNIT | did your stepson give up on linux? |
| 23:44.46 | roxville | he says no, but his lappy is crappy |
| 23:45.08 | roxville | he's getting a acer 10" aspire one for xmas |
| 23:45.14 | roxville | but he doesn't know it yet |
| 23:45.16 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 23:45.41 | roxville | yeah... so he won't even try to play much games on it |
| 23:45.48 | roxville | but for chatting, etc |
| 23:46.07 | LinuxNIT | mine is running openarena quite nicely |
| 23:46.47 | roxville | wow, haven't even heard of it |
| 23:47.06 | LinuxNIT | open source first person shooter that uses the quake 3 engine |
| 23:48.06 | roxville | yes, a quick google revealed it :) |
| 23:48.37 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 23:49.17 | roxville | crap, Kat just stepped on a glass ball xmas tree ornament |
| 23:49.19 | roxville | bbiab |
| 23:50.01 | *** join/#elive Spami|Thug (n=Spami|Th@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 23:53.00 | roxville | ok, she's ok |
| 23:53.06 | roxville | cut her foot a little |
| 23:53.22 | roxville | i guess i have to make her some hot cocoa now |
| 23:53.36 | LinuxNIT | is glad shes is ok |
| 23:54.15 | roxville | some neosporin and a slap on the butt |
| 23:54.25 | roxville | for taking it down in the first place :) |
| 23:54.33 | roxville | ok, i didn't slap her |
| 23:54.41 | roxville | maybe i should have... |
| 23:54.46 | LinuxNIT | is Kat the wife or daughter? |
| 23:54.52 | roxville | lol |
| 23:55.00 | roxville | daughter...she's 7 |
| 23:55.04 | roxville | wife is teresa |
| 23:55.08 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 23:55.10 | roxville | Katiana |
| 23:55.25 | LinuxNIT | slap if wife no if daughter ;) |
| 23:56.46 | roxville | http://www.youtube.com/user/roxville#p/u/5/_46vAwDZnPQ |
| 23:56.48 | roxville | hehe |
| 23:58.50 | LinuxNIT | is that your place? |
| 23:59.30 | roxville | it's the county par not far from where i live |
| 23:59.37 | roxville | park |
| 23:59.42 | LinuxNIT | so i see now |
| 23:59.49 | LinuxNIT | i guess i asked too soon |
| 23:59.50 | LinuxNIT | :) |