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07:32.42DaRtH_VaDeRwhere the hell is thana!
07:32.43DaRtH_VaDeRxD
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10:38.28amigamia1happy holidats
10:38.35amigamia1holidays even
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11:26.55AlexAnteeehey Wizard o/
11:55.02AlexAnteeeanybody alive in here?
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12:40.24AlexAnteeehi wasynyt_eee
12:40.43wasynyt_eeehi AlexAnteee
12:40.49wasynyt_eeehow are you doing
12:41.01AlexAnteeeim fine
12:41.25wasynyt_eeegreat
12:41.32AlexAnteeehave you ever tried to control your eeepc's fanspeed?
12:41.41wasynyt_eeenope
12:41.47AlexAnteeelol... I's got pretty cold here!
12:41.57wasynyt_eee, or i might if my distro has that :D
12:42.02AlexAnteeeatm we got -10°C
12:42.09wasynyt_eeesame as here
12:42.16wasynyt_eeelast week was -20
12:42.21AlexAnteeewow!
12:42.44AlexAnteeethat's rare here and happens mostly at nighttime.
12:43.23wasynyt_eeeheh.. air is quite dry at the moment
12:43.33AlexAnteeeyep, thats nice!
12:43.35wasynyt_eeeyeah
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12:43.58wasynyt_eeegood afternon CmdPrmtMd
12:44.01AlexAnteeethis morning I nearly froze my fingers.
12:44.21wasynyt_eeereally? you didnt have gloves with you?
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12:44.50AlexAnteeeoh I had gloves, but they got wet.
12:45.23Elive_user68_enhow can I install me-tv on eLive
12:45.27AlexAnteeewas playing with my dog in the snow.
12:45.29AlexAnteee:)
12:45.36wasynyt_eee:D
12:45.56AlexAnteeedont even know me-tv
12:45.57Elive_user68_enplease help me
12:46.03wasynyt_eeewhat is that
12:46.08wasynyt_eeeme-tv?
12:46.15Elive_user68_ena programm to watch dvb-t
12:46.28AlexAnteeelol... sounds like another version of you-tube.
12:46.30AlexAnteee*gg*
12:46.45Elive_user68_enno not in tzhe internet-- digital tv
12:46.57AlexAnteeeyo
12:47.38AlexAnteeelol
12:47.46AlexAnteeeI scared him away.
12:47.47wasynyt_eee:D
12:47.49wasynyt_eeeyeah
12:48.03wasynyt_eeedoes elive shipwith me-tv?
12:48.09AlexAnteeedunno.
12:48.11AlexAnteeeguess not
12:48.15wasynyt_eeeneither do i
12:48.43AlexAnteeedont use digital tv on my comp.
12:48.56AlexAnteeeso i got no idea.
12:52.42wasynyt_eeei dont have tv of any kind :/
12:53.04AlexAnteeeuh... really?
12:53.28AlexAnteeey?
12:58.34wasynyt_eeeyup
12:59.02wasynyt_eeeonly  a ps3, computer and 24" monitor, and videoprojector
12:59.31wasynyt_eeeno tv, tv card or anything like that
13:01.05AlexAnteeeaaargh.... just seen world of warcraft ad on tv.
13:01.43AlexAnteeewow ads belong to the worst on tv.
13:03.55wasynyt_eeehmm
13:04.08wasynyt_eeei think i have seen those.. they are quite annoying
13:04.14AlexAnteeehates wow
13:04.24wasynyt_eeedoesnt care wow
13:04.40AlexAnteeei hate it with a passion!
13:04.41AlexAnteee:)
13:05.53wasynyt_eee:D
13:07.02wasynyt_eeegoes to eat
13:07.04wasynyt_eeesee you later
13:07.20AlexAnteeehave to leave too
13:07.21AlexAnteeecu
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14:07.43Mtrakerhi
14:08.25MtrakerI want extract music with sound juicer ... I don't see change parametres for mp3
14:08.31Mtrakerwhere i can change?
14:09.11MtrakerI see only for ogg, flac, speex and wav
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15:31.26Elive_user89_enhey anigania1
15:32.40Elive_user89_endo you now how to turn the ecomorph?
15:32.57MrSandmanElive_user89_en, heya
15:33.12MrSandmanopen a terminal and write ecomorph :)
15:33.26keyraMrSandman: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
15:34.15Elive_user89_enthis is was what I got:   ecomorph (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
15:34.15Elive_user89_enecomorph (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
15:34.16Elive_user89_enecomorph (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
15:35.07Elive_user89_enis this normal system response
15:35.23Elive_user89_en?
15:35.23MrSandmanwhat graphics card u own?
15:35.26elmo40what video card do you have?
15:35.41MrSandmanhehe elmo40 ^^
15:35.50elmo40*
15:36.16MrSandmanElive_user89_en, intel, ati, nvidia?
15:36.30Elive_user89_enI am checking
15:36.35MrSandmanoki
15:36.48MrSandmantry lspci
15:37.20Elive_user89_enyes I did that
15:38.02MrSandmanlook for ati, envidia, intel graphics card on lspci
15:38.28Elive_user89_enthis my video card   :     Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
15:38.40MrSandmanoka
15:39.22MrSandmandpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
15:39.31MrSandmanuse root user
15:39.41Elive_user89_enMy laptop is Sony Vaio VGN-N250E
15:39.48Elive_user89_enok
15:41.16MrSandmantry to make dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
15:41.29MrSandmanthen ecomorph
15:42.06Elive_user89_enshould I use " Kernel framebuffer device interface?"
15:42.25MrSandmanyes
15:43.26Elive_user89_enok
15:44.19Elive_user89_enshould I run ecomorph as root?
15:44.28MrSandmantry with ur user
15:44.37Elive_user89_enok
15:45.21Elive_user89_enI got the same error msg:    
15:45.21Elive_user89_enecomorph (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
15:45.21Elive_user89_enecomorph (core) - Error: Failed to manage screen: 0
15:45.21Elive_user89_enecomorph (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
15:45.32MrSandmanmmmm
15:46.25MrSandmancan u post the /etc/X11/xorg.conf in http://pastebin.com/
15:46.41MrSandmancat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
15:50.23Elive_user89_enMr Sandman I just posted what you asked me.
15:50.35MrSandmangive me the url plz
15:50.38Elive_user89_enI hope I did correcly
15:50.55MrSandmangive me the url of ur post in pastebin
15:50.57Elive_user89_enhttp://pastebin.com/f177dc834
15:51.00MrSandmanits like imageshack
15:51.40MrSandmanu dont have installed the intel driver
15:51.42MrSandman:)
15:51.50MrSandmanlets try to install
15:51.50Elive_user89_enops
15:51.51MrSandman:)
15:51.55Elive_user89_enok
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15:53.29MrSandmanElive_user89_en, oka, all with the root user, ok?
15:53.40MrSandmanaptitude update
15:53.45MrSandmanaptitude install xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa mesa-utils
15:54.31Elive_user89_enok
15:54.53MrSandmanall done?
15:54.58MrSandmanthen ..
15:54.59MrSandmanglxinfo | grep direct
15:55.51MrSandmanu get answer like "direct rendering: Yes"
15:56.00MrSandman????
15:56.47elmo40MrSandman, bring me a dream...
15:57.00MrSandmanpom pom pom pom :D
15:57.01MrSandmanhehehe
15:57.03Elive_user89_enok,, I got the "direct rendering: Yes
15:57.32MrSandmanoki Elive_user89_en now u need to eddit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
15:57.35MrSandmannano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
15:57.37elmo40after he installs the xorg-intel, doesn't he have to restart X ?
15:57.44elmo40nano????
15:57.46elmo40freak
15:57.48MrSandmanno no
15:57.51elmo40give him a break!
15:58.00MrSandmancoz he need to include many modules :P
15:58.01elmo40as root use scite ;)
15:58.21Elive_user89_ensorry...
15:58.24MrSandmanhehe
15:58.26MrSandmannaa
15:58.54Elive_user89_enI have a baby of 5 months with me here...
15:58.59elmo40:P
15:59.04MrSandmanu need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the find ! Section "Module" !
15:59.27elmo40as root type: scite xorg.conf    
15:59.36elmo40while in the /ect/X11/ directory!
15:59.50elmo40don't confuse the fella with nano... at least give him Vim ! LOL
16:00.06MrSandmanjust down the "section Module " of xorg.conf file, u need to write this ...
16:00.07MrSandmanLoad "dri"
16:00.07MrSandmanLoad "glx"
16:00.07MrSandmanLoad "dbe"
16:00.24MrSandmanElmo he just start to use elive :P
16:00.38MrSandmannano is cool ^^
16:00.40elmo40exactly. need to use 'gui' apps until he feel comfortable
16:01.02MrSandmansorry ^^, agree with elmo40 :)
16:02.05elmo40MrSandman: what timezone are you in?
16:02.41MrSandmanElive_user89_en, now go to the setion Device and write ...
16:02.42MrSandmanOption "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
16:02.42MrSandmanOption "DRI" "true"
16:02.50MrSandmanelmo40, spain gmt+1
16:03.06elmo40apt: give MrSandman a beer
16:03.28aptACTION hands MrSandman a cold beer
16:03.29MrSandmanhahahaha ^^
16:03.29elmo40where the hell is apt!?!?!
16:03.29elmo40apt get
16:03.30aptmethinks get is search http://www.apt-get.org
16:03.37elmo40about time... lazy bot
16:03.42MrSandmanhahahaha
16:03.42MrSandman:D
16:03.50MrSandmanty ^^
16:04.05elmo40denada (sp)
16:04.24MrSandmanhahah cool spanish ^^
16:04.57elmo40I took a few lessons.
16:05.01elmo40not my strong language.
16:05.05MrSandmanElive_user89_en, no go to the DRI section and look if u have this ( if u dont have this, just write it )
16:05.15MrSandmanSection "DRI"
16:05.16MrSandmanGroup "video"
16:05.16MrSandmanMode 0666
16:05.16MrSandmanEndSection
16:05.24elmo40I was taught french all the way from grade 2 to highschool!
16:05.47MrSandmanje m'apelle paco ^^
16:05.48elmo40MrSandman: why don't you edit his xorg.conf and repaste it?
16:05.55elmo40Paco?
16:05.58MrSandmanyes
16:06.00MrSandmanpaco
16:06.04elmo40je m'apelle Leo
16:06.09MrSandmanpaco= franc
16:06.23MrSandmannice name!!
16:06.52MrSandmanleo in spanish its like a lion
16:06.53MrSandman:)
16:06.59elmo40ya, I know ;)
16:07.18elmo40MrSandman: so, edit the pastebin.com for him. add what he needs
16:07.22MrSandmanElive_user89_en, repost ur xorg.conf in pastebin, i try to reconfigure it
16:07.37Elive_user89_enMrSandman I cant find Section " Module", look my file
16:07.40elmo40then tell him to make a backup of his current xorg.conf and replace it with your edited version
16:07.41Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:07.43Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:07.45Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:07.46MrSandmanno no
16:07.47Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:07.48MrSandmanhere no
16:07.49Elive_user89_enEndSection
16:07.51Elive_user89_enSection "InputDevice"
16:07.53Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:07.55Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:07.57MrSandman:/
16:07.59Elive_user89_enEndSection
16:08.01Elive_user89_enSection "Device"
16:08.03Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:08.05Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:08.07Elive_user89_enEndSection
16:08.09MrSandmanspam ftw xD
16:08.10Elive_user89_enSection "Monitor"
16:08.11Elive_user89_en<PROTECTED>
16:08.13Elive_user89_enEndSection
16:09.36MrSandmanElive_user89_en, reboot ur machine, and then copy the content of ur xorg.conf in pastebin.com
16:09.50keyraMrSandman: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
16:10.07MrSandmankeyra, i love u, u know
16:10.21keyraMrSandman: I love you too :)
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16:14.36elmo40get a room!
16:14.43MrSandmanhahha
16:16.20MrSandmanwe can do a love in anyloc
16:16.21MrSandman^^
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16:39.40she_dyedanyone here mount nfs shares
16:40.27she_dyedthere has to be a GUI somewhere...
16:42.56wasynyt_eeewhy?
16:43.10she_dyedhey wasynyt_eee
16:43.21she_dyedis it in module places?
16:43.36wasynyt_eeewhy would you need a gui to mount nfs share?
16:43.58she_dyedi am mounting it for the first time from this desktop
16:44.17she_dyedthat way I can use thunar or any other
16:44.47she_dyedthe drive is in a networked laptop
16:44.53wasynyt_eeeok
16:45.06wasynyt_eeeyou can just mount it using mount command
16:45.08she_dyedand its nfs server is running (at least AFAICT)
16:45.33wasynyt_eeeyou have to have a folder ready, like /mnt/my_shared_files
16:45.47keyrawasynyt_eee: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
16:45.51she_dyedon the desktop that wants to see it
16:45.53she_dyedok
16:46.00she_dyedgot that in 1 min
16:46.45she_dyedok nice
16:46.48she_dyednow lets see
16:47.02wasynyt_eeeand then as root: mount ip_of_that_nfs_server:/path/to/the/share/ /mnt/my_shared_files
16:48.01wasynyt_eeehttp://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO.html
16:50.02she_dyedappreciate it wasynyt_eee
16:50.14wasynyt_eeeyour welcome
16:50.15wasynyt_eee:D
16:50.15she_dyedinching closer, only need to fix 'permission denied'
16:50.27she_dyedon laptop side
16:50.32wasynyt_eeeyeah
16:50.41she_dyedhow you been man
16:51.00wasynyt_eeejust remember to allow read and write in the server, then it works like a champ
16:51.06wasynyt_eeei am doing fine
16:51.11she_dyedcool
16:51.14wasynyt_eeeyeah
16:51.21wasynyt_eeejust being lazy
16:51.32she_dyedi think this is the first time i did all by hand
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16:52.03she_dyedi had been doing the other direction and on the laptop I would use yast
16:52.03wasynyt_eeewell mounting nfs shares is 100 times faster this way, than with any gui wizard
16:52.16she_dyedwhich has a curses interface
16:52.29she_dyedand it would 'look up' the entries for me
16:52.43she_dyedspoil me, almost
16:52.47wasynyt_eeeheh
16:53.11she_dyedi dont think Joe Sixpack would have to worry too much about this
16:53.38she_dyedif he ever knew what nfs does the world will come to an end without waiting for 2012
16:53.47wasynyt_eeeheh
16:54.30wasynyt_eeewell i wonder why someone would think that smb/windows shared folders are any easier than nfs, i think that nfs is far easier
16:54.45keyrawasynyt_eee: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
16:54.55wasynyt_eeeapt slap keyra
16:54.55aptACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:54.56she_dyedbut consider where he begins, he would first get a computer
16:55.09keyrawasynyt_eee: But... it's true... :(
16:55.10she_dyedand too bad it would come with Win 7 now
16:55.22wasynyt_eeeyeah
16:55.23she_dyedor he buys a 'media center'
16:55.44she_dyedand whatever the store sells, so sad it comes with win7
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16:55.57wasynyt_eeei dont really like windows media center.. just seeing that remote conroller makes me angry
16:56.05AlexAnteMachinahi
16:56.07wasynyt_eeegood evening AlexAnteMachina
16:56.14she_dyedhey AlexAnteMachina o/
16:56.29AlexAnteMachinaget XBMC
16:56.47wasynyt_eeeAlexAnteMachina, that was not the point
16:56.57AlexAnteMachinaI know.
16:57.05wasynyt_eeethe point is what joe sixpack can by and use
16:57.21AlexAnteMachinajoe sixpack?
16:57.32she_dyedyour everyday computer user
16:57.37AlexAnteMachinak
16:57.39she_dyedwho doesn't have a clue how it works
16:57.43she_dyedjust that , it works
16:57.47wasynyt_eeeand doesnt care
16:58.01she_dyedbec. everyone has one in their lving room now
16:58.03wasynyt_eeethe user groub hosting botnets
16:58.13wasynyt_eee*group
16:58.13she_dyedheh
16:58.18AlexAnteMachinalol
16:58.26she_dyedeven thou he didn't sign up anything
16:58.31she_dyedbut the extended warranty
16:59.10wasynyt_eeei would not like to have a windows media center on my living room making me angry
16:59.25keyrawasynyt_eee: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems
16:59.32wasynyt_eeekeyra !
16:59.38wasynyt_eeeapt slap keyra
16:59.39aptACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:59.54AlexAnteMachinawasynyt_eee, calm down, get XBMC and enjoy testing good Software!
16:59.56AlexAnteMachina:)
17:00.22wasynyt_eeenah i have ps3.. and that thing handels my media center needs
17:03.17she_dyedis that the one with bluray
17:03.28she_dyedhdmi
17:05.06wasynyt_eeeyeah
17:07.54wasynyt_eeei like to have hassle free machines in my hometheatre setup.. i dont have to fiddle with setups if i just want to watch a movie
17:08.41elmo40so does everyone, ya Finn ;)
17:09.08wasynyt_eeei guess so
17:11.42wasynyt_eeethink about trying to watch a movie on windows machine without interups and fidling with some applications, settings
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17:37.37Wizardwhat gui wizard
17:37.52Wizardhas no gui!
17:38.00Wizardis cli-driven
17:42.31she_dyedlook at the girly man, needs a GUI lol
17:43.19Wizardlooks
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17:43.35Wizardsoo.. /me is joysitck-driven :>
17:45.06she_dyedno, man CLI ftw!
17:45.35wasynyt_eeeWizard, :P
17:45.48MrSandmanCLI=no RL :P
17:45.56WizardRL?
17:46.03MrSandmanreal life
17:46.04MrSandman:P
17:46.10wasynyt_eeenot quite
17:46.30MrSandmancli = no life ^^
17:46.35wasynyt_eeecli could mean that you dont have time to waste on gui jungle
17:47.05MrSandmanmate, gui its cool if u need to do a fast job
17:47.15MrSandmancli is for batch
17:47.37MrSandman<---cobol programer :/
17:47.42MrSandmancoder*
17:47.47wasynyt_eeeoooh
17:47.51wasynyt_eeeis no coder
17:48.00MrSandmannaaaaa
17:48.04Wizard<- java coder
17:48.12MrSandman3029842387492834729384723 code lines for do a batch is not coder
17:48.31MrSandmango aix kornshell console and say me if im not a coder ^^
17:49.45wasynyt_eee:D
17:49.45MrSandmanxd
17:50.46MrSandmanWizard, java its cool across platform languaje, but have many security holes :/
17:52.23MrSandmannow im do an asm cracks, etc ^^
17:53.46she_dyedwasynyt_eee: now it works, my 'DVD' is on the laptop
17:54.01she_dyedbut as folder full of 'VOB files'
17:54.16keyrashe_dyed: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
17:55.02wasynyt_eeeshe_dyed, you should be able to play that with vlc
17:55.35Wizardor mplayer
17:55.43Wizardi think vlc is nicer
17:56.10AlexAnteMachinalol... there is less vlc cannot play.
17:56.25MrSandmanvlc can play vob files mate
17:56.37she_dyedi know
17:56.54wasynyt_eeeheh
17:57.08she_dyedbut I hate to install other apps when one can do the job
17:57.23wasynyt_eeethen i would say, install vlc
17:57.30MrSandmanxd
17:57.32she_dyedit is nice
17:57.41wasynyt_eeeand it should do the job
17:58.10she_dyedman I already wrote a HOWTO make mplayer ran as wallpaper
17:58.24keyrashe_dyed: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
17:58.31she_dyedrun*
17:58.51wasynyt_eee:P
17:58.52she_dyedkeyra, if you want to go out just say so
18:00.26she_dyedi posted it in e17-stuff.org
18:00.34she_dyedbefore we had this collab stuff
18:04.03AlexAnteMachinamplayer as a background? hmm,...what happens if one wants to watch a movie?
18:04.18keyraAlexAnteMachina: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
18:04.28AlexAnteMachinaarrrgh!
18:04.49she_dyedctl-alt-r shades your terms but if they're transparent you can leave them
18:04.50WizardAlexAnteMachina: :D
18:05.27she_dyedand I think there is a keybind to 'show desktop' and iconifies all open windows
18:05.49AlexAnteMachinaWont the video be played as a background?
18:06.05she_dyedon the wall paper
18:06.21she_dyedhad to split it so the bot wont say
18:06.53she_dyedmore like if you saw the movie and just wanted to see some parts again
18:07.19she_dyedjust let it play and then when its at the best part hit the jey to tuck things away
18:07.26she_dyedkey*
18:08.27wasynyt_eeeheads to sauna
18:08.32wasynyt_eeesee you people later
18:08.42she_dyedw00t
18:09.07AlexAnteMachinabut itask-ng and other modules will stay on top of the movie. Isnt that annoying?
18:09.56she_dyedif you have itask filled or running
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18:10.41she_dyedi think i only have stickies on it but not active
18:10.53she_dyedso its still in the tiny corner
18:11.16AlexAnteMachinapretty empty screen so
18:11.32she_dyedyes and sometimes only one transparent term
18:12.05AlexAnteMachinaVERY tidy!
18:12.06she_dyedwhere the chat is
18:12.33AlexAnteMachinado you keep your place as clean as that, too?
18:13.40she_dyedi have all sorts though on the edges
18:13.40she_dyedlike shelves and clocks and gkrellm monitors and conky
18:13.40AlexAnteMachinalol.. no I meant your House.
18:13.56she_dyedthe screen is not that tidy so you can imagine if i said the house is worse
18:14.09AlexAnteMachinalol
18:14.33she_dyedon the other side of th hallway is roommate's room, everythng is in order
18:14.53she_dyedon my side it looked like some crooks came in looking for something
18:16.02AlexAnteMachinahmm,... make sure to have some crooks at home, to blame them for all the mess if needed!
18:16.14she_dyedlol
18:16.18she_dyedTHEY did it
18:16.31she_dyed(heres your 5 bux)
18:17.38AlexAnteMachinanow sells canned crooks!
18:17.53Wizardnah, boring evening
18:19.25AlexAnteMachinaHi bored Wizard
18:19.43Wizardhi AlexAnteMachina
18:19.51Wizardwassup?
18:20.05AlexAnteMachinayou need to buy some canned crooks.
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18:20.28Wizardcrooks?
18:20.34AlexAnteMachinaCrooks!
18:20.46she_dyedthugs thieves
18:20.50AlexAnteMachinalol, she_dyed I guess Wizard missed the best part.
18:21.05she_dyedhe must have been afk
18:21.38AlexAnteMachinaafk?
18:21.44AlexAnteMachinaAway From Krooks?
18:22.22she_dyedaway from keyboard
18:22.22Wizardyeah, i was
18:22.36Wizardi don't irc much last times
18:22.36AlexAnteMachinaHow dare you, Wizard !?
18:22.54Wizardhmm.. end of semester is comming
18:22.55Wizard:P
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18:24.15AlexAnteMachinaWell, that sounds good!
18:24.33Wizardyeah.. sounds and smells like exams
18:24.43AlexAnteMachinaand also like holidays!
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18:28.53Wizardheh, holidays? i work :P
18:29.31evryanzI love the "iWork" application.
18:29.34evryanz:D
18:29.42evryanzHello, by the way... :D
18:30.27she_dyedon my pc its heWorks
18:30.35Wizardhehe
18:30.37AlexAnteMachinahi evryanz
18:30.37Wizardhi evryanz
18:30.52evryanzloves Apple.
18:31.15Wizardloves girls
18:32.43AlexAnteMachinaloves girls and linux.
18:33.39AlexAnteMachinabut unfortunately there is more linux then girls around me.
18:33.44AlexAnteMachina;)
18:34.44Wizardheh, my girl sleeps.. with my cat
18:34.53Wizardand they are both in the same pose, which looks extremly funny
18:35.34AlexAnteMachinaMake a picture!!!
18:35.52AlexAnteMachinaAnd show her later.
18:35.55Wizardno wai!
18:35.57Wizard:P
18:36.13AlexAnteMachinaI need to get out with my dog now.
18:36.15AlexAnteMachinacu
18:36.31AlexAnteMachinais afk now.
18:36.35she_dyedcu
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18:41.09Wizardnah, good that cat have no need to go out
18:41.22Wizardthinks if above sentence is correct o_O
18:41.34Wizardhas..
18:41.36Wizardoh my..
18:41.37evryanz\o/
18:41.51evryanzI have a squirrel
18:42.04she_dyedheh
18:42.21she_dyedget some trail mix/peanuts and leave some daily
18:43.22evryanzYeah, but he needs to go out in the flat too...
18:45.07evryanzBut anyways, I almost always leave the cage open...
18:45.29she_dyedwait its a pet?
18:45.40evryanzYes, why?
18:45.57she_dyedthats different then
18:46.05she_dyedits used to you now
18:46.24she_dyedthought it was out there
18:46.47evryanzIt's like this: http://www.benaysanimals.net/wild_animals/images/chipmunk_lg.jpg
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18:47.11evryanz"Eutamia sibiricus asiaticus pallasi"
18:49.13she_dyedshould be cute amia
18:49.40evryanzIf you want tomorrow I can upload videos
18:49.41evryanz^^
18:49.55she_dyeddid you buy ?
18:49.58she_dyedthats awesome
18:51.00evryanzYes, I've buyed it a year ago
18:51.31Wizardhttp://republika.pl/blog_xn_3653726/4480183/tr/wiewiorka.jpg
18:51.38she_dyedmust have been a baby then?
18:51.43Wizardi thought this is squirrel
18:52.10evryanzWizard: It's another race
18:52.12she_dyedchipmunk i thin k he has
18:52.25she_dyedlike alvin and theodor and
18:52.59Wizardo_O
18:53.09evryanzYeah, but Chipmunks are from eastern USA, and theese are from Korea and Siberia
18:53.30she_dyedoh
18:54.19she_dyedi thought squrrels were plain, no stripe
18:54.29she_dyedand chipmunks had them thats all
18:54.37Wizard:D
18:54.46Wizardevryanz: coll pet
18:54.49Wizardcool*
18:54.55she_dyedit sure is
18:55.01Wizardisn't it very annoying?
18:55.29she_dyeddoes it have any brain enough to respond to its name?
18:56.13evryanzWizard: When you have tamed it (is that the right word?), no.
18:56.18evryanzshe_dyed: Yeah, sure
18:56.34she_dyedthats tht correct term yes
18:57.04Wizardand my cat doesn't
18:57.07Wizard:(
18:57.26Wizardso i stopped calling it by any names, just 'kot'
18:57.27she_dyedthe cat does, it just doesnt bother with us the inferior rance
18:57.35she_dyedrace*
18:58.17evryanzHe comes at full speed when he hears a packet, because he knows if that's a packet, shere is something eatable... :D
18:58.35Wizard:D
18:58.52she_dyedsame with a new dog ...
18:58.58Wizarddoes it make any sounds?
18:58.59she_dyedor pup
18:59.13evryanzHe eats *all*, even plastic bags xD
18:59.33she_dyedlol
18:59.38evryanz(So I should be cautious)
19:00.55Wizard:)
19:02.05evryanzI mean, he don't eats the bags, but he puts them in the mouth and brings it in his little home ^^
19:02.26Wizardheh
19:03.40evryanzSquirrels have a very big mouth... They can put a walnut in each cheek...
19:03.48she_dyedheh
19:03.56she_dyedhe does that with the plastic?
19:04.11evryanzYeah :D
19:04.20she_dyedomg
19:04.34evryanzI think he loves the sound of theese plastic packets
19:05.48evryanzBut now it's winter, so he hibernates...
19:05.52mathesishi all
19:06.02she_dyedhi there
19:06.12mathesisxD
19:06.13evryanzHello mathesis
19:06.27she_dyedmissing something are you
19:06.59Wizardhi mathesis
19:07.39mathesisits nice elive  unstable
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19:10.08she_dyedgrab some new themes
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21:31.59olchatterhandhi friends n neibors
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22:37.35she_dyedi did it
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22:40.06she_dyedgot the newest one yet?
22:40.31she_dyedwondering if I should get it
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23:12.18she_dyedanyone got the new elive yet?
23:12.36she_dyeddoes it no longer have the graphical bootsplash
23:12.51Elive_user42_dehi there
23:12.58she_dyedhello how are ya
23:13.18Elive_user42_deyes i am using 1.9.52
23:13.51she_dyeddid you notice if the bg at boot has backgroound, or plain      black
23:14.43Elive_user42_dei am actually using a lenovo thinkpad r6II and there is no problem with the background
23:14.57keyraElive_user42_de: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
23:15.14she_dyedyou mean when you boot its not plan black, this is bootsplash
23:15.19she_dyedplain*
23:15.42she_dyednot the wallpaper i mean while booting normally
23:15.44Elive_user42_dewell, i am using elive since 1.3 or so
23:15.49she_dyedah ok
23:15.56keyrashe_dyed: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
23:16.16she_dyedii;ve got an older thinkpad, before it became lenove
23:16.30she_dyeddamm those urls from the bot get irritating
23:17.15Elive_user42_deafter the language selecting screen there is nothing that could irritate
23:17.45Elive_user42_dethe normal booting sequence with all of its questions
23:17.56Elive_user42_dei have a different problem
23:18.00she_dyedgo on
23:18.27Elive_user42_dethe sound is much too loud and totally distorted. no way to level it down at this time
23:18.55she_dyedmost people complain about NO sound
23:19.00she_dyedlol
23:19.18she_dyedis it using hte right driver?
23:19.26Elive_user42_dethis is only with this lenovo, on my dell or on my samsung the sound is normal
23:19.27she_dyedlsmod oughta show you
23:19.40she_dyedso use the keyboard volume control
23:19.59she_dyedon the T20 its next to the 'Thinkpad access' button
23:20.03Elive_user42_deat booting from cd you have no chance to select a special driver
23:20.15she_dyedsometimes you do
23:20.25she_dyedlike I want to use soundblaster from 80s era
23:20.42she_dyedi put options  sb=something blablabla
23:20.48she_dyedold school
23:20.49Elive_user42_dethe keyboard volume control does not work, i tried sometimes
23:21.07she_dyedwhat about alsamixer?
23:21.52Elive_user42_dealsamixer is applicable if the system is just running, but not while booting. or is there some boot option?
23:22.34she_dyedwhy during booting
23:22.45she_dyedbecuase the welcome screen blasts at you?
23:23.09she_dyedthe 'elive' music is too loud?
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23:23.39she_dyedis the timing critical in your case?
23:23.41Elive_user42_deif i boot my elive cd on this lenovo all the people around are troubled because the elive sound is much too loud
23:24.04she_dyedboot to cli  then
23:24.15Elive_user42_deand i can not stop it or level it down
23:24.17she_dyedadd 3 so that it doesn't rush to GUI
23:24.50she_dyedor, like put a headset jack on
23:25.06she_dyedeven if you're not wearing the headset
23:25.09Elive_user42_deyes headset would help, if you have one
23:25.21she_dyedhell you just need the tip
23:25.24she_dyedpop it in
23:25.40she_dyedok back to a short solution, put 3 in boot options
23:25.40Elive_user42_deis there a boot option to do that too?
23:26.24Elive_user42_deput 3  what means this?
23:26.31she_dyedrun level 3
23:26.41she_dyedcli not gui
23:26.49she_dyedgui comes when you're ready
23:27.32she_dyedare you a console cowboy
23:27.40Elive_user42_deoki. that is, first boot only to run level 3 and after that start the gui
23:27.45she_dyedyes
23:27.57she_dyedgives you time to adjust the volume
23:28.09Elive_user42_deoki.
23:28.22Elive_user42_demust try it
23:28.23she_dyedalsactl -restore once you've saved the proper volume
23:28.37Elive_user42_dethanx
23:28.37she_dyedone command line does it once  you've saved desired settings
23:28.41she_dyedno
23:28.44she_dyedthank me when it works
23:28.49she_dyednot before
23:29.04she_dyedyou know how to read online manual
23:29.08she_dyedman alsactl
23:29.12she_dyedif alsa is what you use
23:29.20she_dyedotherwise my advice is useless
23:29.35Elive_user42_deyes i did it using knoppix, and it did help me
23:29.50she_dyedcool if you've been using since 1.3
23:29.58she_dyedyou know your way around
23:30.15she_dyedotherise other people ask, duuuuh whats man?
23:30.35Elive_user42_deyes but at this time i had no lenovo
23:30.45she_dyedoh you just got it recently?
23:31.14Elive_user42_deyes, this is my companies laptop
23:31.19she_dyedcongratulations, i have the older editions
23:31.41she_dyedfor some reason blak out after boot
23:31.53she_dyedi dont have the time to figure out whats wrong
23:32.12she_dyedat least elive is on my desktop and thats all that matters
23:32.22she_dyedthe laptop can boot to ANY live CD
23:32.33Elive_user42_deoh, thats fine
23:32.43she_dyedif i try installing anything big/major it craps out
23:32.53she_dyedi think its the disk needs replacing
23:33.11she_dyedbut nahh not a priority if ram can run live stuff
23:33.27Elive_user42_demy company laptop has a standard winxp and i added a pclinuxos on its harddisk
23:33.34she_dyedlol
23:33.43she_dyedpclinux? whats the window manager on it
23:33.47she_dyedgnome?
23:33.53Elive_user42_dekde
23:33.58she_dyedhmmmm
23:34.38she_dyedoh you know they have litestep for XP
23:34.39Elive_user42_detoday i found it on distrowatch at position 11 or so
23:34.58she_dyedmakes your desktop 'feel' like linux with multiple workspaces
23:35.23she_dyedbe careful with the distrowatch ratings
23:35.29she_dyedthey only count clicks
23:35.40she_dyedlike if so n so released a beta or RC
23:35.49Elive_user42_deyeah, the multitude of the workspaces, thats what i find very fine with Elive_user27_es
23:35.50she_dyedpeople would click on it, the news/homepage
23:36.06she_dyedand it would bump up the ratings
23:36.17she_dyedso be careful with that
23:36.27she_dyedi find 4 to be enough
23:36.34she_dyedand i mostly use 2 tops
23:36.54Elive_user42_deyes i know its a very course rating
23:38.11Elive_user42_dewith elive i found a system that allowed to expand an excel spreadsheet over two or more screens
23:38.28she_dyedmultimonitor are you?
23:38.58Elive_user42_deno, only one monitor, but you can flip from one to the next
23:39.04she_dyedheh
23:39.18she_dyedhave you tried keybinds?
23:39.30she_dyedmaybe you can bind useless keys to volume down
23:39.50Elive_user42_deno, thats a good idea
23:40.04Elive_user42_dehow does it work?
23:40.10she_dyedi turned mine into almost a 'multimedia' keyboard
23:40.18she_dyedcheck it out
23:40.32she_dyeddo you have printscreen and scroll lock next to each other
23:40.44Elive_user42_deyeah this works with an installed elive, but not with live cd
23:40.56she_dyedis that how you use elive, liveCD
23:41.05Elive_user42_deyes, mainly
23:41.22she_dyedwhat i do, i copy most of my settings into a harddrive partition
23:41.31she_dyedlike /mnt/sda7
23:41.39she_dyedand then at cli
23:41.49she_dyedi copy them back with a quick script
23:42.05Elive_user42_deoh yeah, thats a good idea
23:42.15Elive_user42_deor copy it to a usb stick
23:42.21she_dyedthats the best
23:42.29keyraElive_user42_de: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
23:42.35she_dyedthere is a write up on how to make it 'persistent'
23:42.45she_dyednot that one, lemme see
23:42.53she_dyedso that it 'remembers' what you set last time
23:43.03she_dyedgive me a minute
23:43.09Elive_user42_deoki
23:44.01she_dyedhttp://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?4,2851
23:44.23Elive_user42_dei will try it out
23:45.32she_dyedheh if you have an old headset just cut off the tip and use it too lol
23:46.05she_dyedan officemate that just quit and left everything heh heh
23:46.41Elive_user42_deyes i have one.
23:47.01Elive_user42_dedefective. but the plug would do the job
23:47.45Elive_user42_dehope this would not kill the output transistors
23:50.14Elive_user42_degood night thanx for your tips
23:50.28she_dyedno problemo
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