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05:19.09Elive_user57hola
05:19.23keyraElive_user57: que tal ?
05:19.40Elive_user57bien
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06:11.36elmo40Wizard: wmii? That is old school.
06:11.44elmo40when was the last release? 2007?
06:14.17elmo40just checked their google code page. This past October!
06:14.18elmo40nice
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06:51.57elmo40moo!
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07:26.52Wizardmoo!
07:29.13elmo40Wizard:
07:40.05Wizard?
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08:12.07elmo40how are things?
08:12.20elmo40how is wmii?
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08:15.20Wizardwmii statayed at home
08:15.24Wizardhere i ave gnome
08:15.37Wizardand pure, awesome, fucking, outdated centos
08:15.38Wizard:P
08:38.56elmo40lovely centOS
08:39.04elmo40it is 'out dated' because they want stability!
08:44.59Wizardyes, of course
08:45.12Wizardand have small repo for better integrity
08:45.29Wizardin fact, oo.org does not work for me for example
08:45.40Wizardand i'm gonna install debian here this week
08:45.41Wizard:P
08:45.54keyraWizard: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
08:47.54Wizardyeah yeah
08:48.15elmo40:P
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10:39.02BiG_NoBoDywitam!
10:39.16BiG_NoBoDyshalom
10:39.25BiG_NoBoDyпривет!
10:39.28BiG_NoBoDylabas
10:39.39BiG_NoBoDyhello :)
10:41.11Wizardkonnichiwa
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10:43.55Wizarduh
10:44.00Wizardkrajan :)
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10:47.26AlexAnteeewasynyt_eee, hi
10:47.40AlexAnteeehave you read about eee-storage?
10:47.44wasynyt_eeehi AlexAnteee
10:48.12wasynyt_eeei dont care about cloud storage, but what about it
10:48.47AlexAnteeethey offer unlimited storage-space for 30 USD/year
10:49.25AlexAnteeeI wonder if they really MEAN unlimited.
10:49.48AlexAnteeeWhat if I would upload 1.5 TERAbyte!?
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10:51.35AlexAnteeeif that would be accessible by ftp I could use it as fileserver.
10:51.35AlexAnteee;)
10:53.46BiG_NoBoDy1hy
10:53.56BiG_NoBoDy1could you say
10:54.18BiG_NoBoDy1elive supports reiser4 +lzo or reiser4+gzip ?
10:54.24BiG_NoBoDy1by defaut?
10:54.58BiG_NoBoDy1by default? and will it be supported further ?
10:55.11AlexAnteeeafaik it does, yes.
10:55.34BiG_NoBoDy1thanx
10:55.52AlexAnteeeBiG_NoBoDy, but we are talking about dev-version.
10:55.59AlexAnteeegem does not!
10:57.35BiG_NoBoDy1dev
10:57.45BiG_NoBoDy1about that wich is free ?
10:59.04AlexAnteeeyes
10:59.15AlexAnteeeDevelopment Version.
11:00.08BiG_NoBoDy1nice :) free is better :D
11:03.46BiG_NoBoDy1:/
11:05.25big_nobody:)
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11:38.10AlexAnteeewell, big_nobody you need to know thana is living of this.
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12:15.48Elive_user59_enHi, anybody online?
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12:20.58AlexAnteMachinahi all
12:22.59Wizardhi AlexAnteMachina
12:23.06AlexAnteMachinahey Wizard
12:23.12AlexAnteMachinawhats up in the east?
12:23.24Wizardit's snowing again
12:23.54AlexAnteMachinanice!
12:24.03AlexAnteMachinahere all has melted away.
12:24.09AlexAnteMachina:(
12:24.14Wizardi'm not excited about it
12:24.49Wizardmy car uses alot of gas again :/
12:25.23AlexAnteMachinajust dont use it.
12:27.50AlexAnteMachinawalking wont cost a thing.
12:29.35Wizardyeah, but i would have to get up hour earlier
12:30.03Wizard:P
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12:31.54AlexAnteMachinalol... Wizard in that case you're paying for the comfort of driving.
12:33.36Wizardhehe, 40minutest in trafic jam is not very comfortable
12:33.37Wizard:P
12:33.58Elive_user59_enHi,
12:34.02Wizardusually i also take my girl
12:34.12WizardElive_user59_en: hi
12:34.56Elive_user59_enCan anyone give me some info about what packages are required to compile a wlan driver on elive
12:37.43Wizarddepends on the driver, i guess
12:38.15Wizardbut i guess you will need kernel headers, or kernel sources
12:38.30Wizardi'm not sure if kernel-dev is included in elive
12:39.05Elive_user59_enI have installed make, automake, autoconf, kernel-sources or kernel headers, not sure which but the driver won't compile.
12:39.36WizardElive_user59_en: there is a meta-package called build-essential, or something like this :P
12:39.52Wizardcould you paste error you get?
12:40.10Elive_user59_enMaybe that is what I need to get it to compile.
12:42.15Elive_user59_enI haven't done it for a few weeks, I have been gone on a business trip.  I can get the driver to make, make install, but it isn't recognized by the internet configurator or in the list in nurse mode.
12:43.29Wizardfirst, use lspci (ist this internal wifi?) and show me which card is this
12:43.42Wizardmaybe it's some common, but elive just does not recognise it
12:43.50Wizardthan we'll see
12:45.39Elive_user59_enI know that the wifi is a realtek rtl8191se, I found it in the hardware list in Win7.
12:46.22Elive_user59_enI have this computer configured as a triple boot, with Win7, Opensuse 11.1, and Elive.
12:46.52AlexAnteMachinaby folks! Need a shower. Good luck with the driver!
12:47.00Elive_user59_enI was able to easily get the wireless working with this driver in opensuse, but I am more familiar with that system
12:47.54Elive_user59_enIt seemed like I needed to configure the wlan somehow, but couldn't find anyway to do that in elive.
12:52.27Elive_user59_enIn my list of comments above I skipped over the fact that I got the proper driver from Realtek directly, they don't have it on their website for download.
12:57.01Wizardoh god, only suse,ubuntu, suse,ubuntu
12:58.37Elive_user59_enNo, suse, elive
13:01.30Elive_user59_enGotta go to bed, I was up all night working.  Thanks for the help.
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13:07.51coderequesthello to all
13:09.47Wizardhi ti you
13:15.18coderequestis it possible to obtain an elive invitation code here?
13:19.17Wizarduh, dunno :(
13:21.30coderequestthank you Wizard
13:21.50Wizardi haven't helped much
13:21.58Wizardbut you're welcome
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15:39.54elmo40coderequest: invitation for what, GEM?
15:40.27coderequestyes, to download gem
15:40.29elmo40that is OLD... 2.0 is coming soon! Take the development version for now, it is very stable along with many more features and a new kernel
15:41.37coderequestok, i'll follow your advice, thank you elmo40
15:42.13elmo40you are welcome
15:42.19elmo40what machine do you have?
15:42.50elmo40your specs.
15:42.57elmo40always interested in what other people have.
15:43.39coderequestok, i own an amd athlon xp 2200+ with an ati radeon 9550
15:44.03elmo40the latest version will work with the ATI.
15:44.27coderequestrecently ubuntu is becoming very slow on that machine
15:45.19elmo40ATI and Xorg have been having 'issues' lately... but I think they are all sorted out for the 2.6.30 kernel.
15:46.25coderequesti think elive will be very faster, i heard a lot about its speed
15:46.52elmo40Enlightenment is the main reason.
15:47.28coderequestare you involved in the development of elive or e17?
15:48.12elmo40only one person, really.
15:48.21elmo40others help with minor things.
15:48.47coderequestah i understand
15:49.33coderequestis previewed to activate elive 2.0 installations by internet?
15:51.22elmo40I believe they will all require internet activation from now on.
15:51.32elmo40it is a way to count the number of installations.
15:51.44coderequest...and to get paid
15:52.30elmo40only one person develops Elive, Full Time!
15:52.35elmo40this is his only 'job'
15:54.38coderequestand i fully agree with his policy, i am a developer too, but maybe i would get paid for a project from scratch, not just for an assembling work
15:55.46elmo40just an assembly of work?
15:56.05elmo40you think he googles for code and apps then puts them all in an .iso?
15:58.37coderequestno, i'm talking about os libraries
16:04.08elmo40then that is with ALL os's
16:05.16elmo40even the paid for ones by Sun or Novell
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16:35.24reeherThere's an incredible amount of work that goes into ELive.  I'm no developer, but I keep an eye on progress and Thanta has done quite a bit of modification of packages and maintaining ELive.  Assembly is relative.  Assembling a car is pretty tough, and deserves remuneration, don't you think?
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18:07.22BiG_NoBoDyWizard: www.7ds.pl isn;t working?
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18:08.37Elive_user86_enare compiz effects enabled by default?
18:08.59BiG_NoBoDyi hope not :) i do not want them :)
18:09.06BiG_NoBoDyi dont know
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18:09.20Elive_user86_eni thought that was the point haha
18:09.47BiG_NoBoDy:) as i recall it asks
18:10.01Mermouyhi, Elive_user86_en , no compiz effects can be enabled going configuration ==>configuration panel==> modules==> and you have to enable module named "ecomorph"
18:11.19Elive_user86_enalrighty thanks
18:12.38Mermouyyou're welcome
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18:17.52BiG_NoBoDyone more question
18:18.05BiG_NoBoDyit supports x86_64 ?
18:18.29BiG_NoBoDyWizard:
18:18.57MermouyAltrought there's no x64 edition i386 should work
18:21.23WizardBiG_NoBoDy: 7ds.pl is not under my command anymore :/
18:22.20Wizardand as Mermouy said, amd64 is supported
18:24.04BiG_NoBoDyhm
18:24.18Wizardi had amd64 notebook and i ran elive on it
18:24.22BiG_NoBoDyWizard: he said, that amd64 is not suppported :)
18:24.33keyraWizard: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
18:24.35BiG_NoBoDyi understand  that you ran on it
18:24.45Wizardbullshit, keyra
18:25.13BiG_NoBoDywhy bullshit ?
18:25.25BiG_NoBoDywhat is bullshit ? :)
18:25.33Wizardamd64 in amd's cpus are not slower than their 32bit counterparts
18:25.47keyraWizard: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
18:26.11BiG_NoBoDyshe said that you wont have a big benefit ;)
18:26.38Wizardbesides, modern cpus don't need -funroll-loops --omg-optimize flags
18:27.16Wizardthey do things themselves
18:27.38BiG_NoBoDyoky, so i reboot into elive install :) wish me luck !
18:27.51Wizardbut, intel c2ds and others are proven to be slower in 32bit mode ;D
18:27.56Wizardi wish you luck
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18:33.10Mermouyno place for luck
18:33.19Mermouy;-)
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18:49.41AlexAnteMachinahi all
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18:54.01AlexAnteMachinaoh, hi AlexAnteee
18:54.07AlexAnteeehi AlexAnteMachina
18:54.33AlexAnteMachinanice to see you online!
18:55.36AlexAnteeeAbsolutely! Since there is nobody else speaking, talking to myselfe works good.
18:56.10AlexAnteMachinaAbsolutely right, AlexAnteee
18:56.23AlexAnteeeJo, AlexAnteMachina
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19:06.14Elive_user66_encoul i talk with an italian guy?
19:06.50Elive_user66_enif he exists! :)
19:07.17Elive_user66_encos i have a problem with an italian provider called alice
19:10.03AlexAnteeeElive_user66_en, this provider offers i-net in germany, too.
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19:24.14AlexAnteeehi bluebugs
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19:44.46Wizardnah
19:46.49AlexAnteeehi Wizard
19:57.55Wizardi'm busy, sorry Alex :(
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23:55.23Elive_user67_enhave done!
23:55.46Elive_user67_enreinstalled atlast :D

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