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| 01:23.04 | Elive_user81_en | hi there ! i've got a problem when trying to install 1.9.52 dev version to the hdd |
| 01:24.02 | sam^2 | it hangs during the integrity signature check |
| 01:24.25 | sam^2 | and i would like to bypass this annoying checking since I know through md5sum that the iso is correct |
| 01:24.39 | keyra | sam^2: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 01:25.26 | sam^2 | apt-get install gem-md5 you mean ? I'm no in Elive gem but in a dev version |
| 01:26.21 | sam^2 | anyway there is no such package or command line |
| 01:28.36 | sam^2 | no way to bypass the checking ? the problem is probably that i'm booting from an usb key, and mounting directly the iso with grub2 lying in the mbr of the key |
| 01:28.50 | keyra | sam^2: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 01:29.32 | sam^2 | yes but i don't want to wipe out my usb key with unetbootin, the iso works very well with my config, i'm writing this message from this key |
| 01:29.46 | keyra | sam^2: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) |
| 01:30.11 | sam^2 | my key is booting correctly |
| 01:30.47 | sam^2 | i'm writing this message with a dev elive version put on my key |
| 01:31.46 | sam^2 | I've install grub2 to my usb, and using the "loop" feature to boot directly from an iso put on my key |
| 01:31.51 | sam^2 | installed |
| 01:32.24 | sam^2 | what i'd like to know is a way to bypass the integrity check |
| 01:32.46 | sam^2 | it's really to long, and md5sum is ok since i've already checked it |
| 01:33.00 | keyra | sam^2: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 01:33.13 | sam^2 | damnit i'm talking to a bot |
| 01:33.41 | sam^2 | keyra, you are really dumb pal |
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| 01:35.34 | sam^2 | nobody there ? |
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| 02:01.08 | Elive_user64 | hi |
| 02:01.27 | DaRtH_VaDeR | hi |
| 02:01.30 | DaRtH_VaDeR | bye |
| 02:01.31 | DaRtH_VaDeR | -.- |
| 02:36.59 | progma | o/ |
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| 02:42.15 | elmo40 | DaRtH_VaDeR: |
| 02:42.16 | elmo40 | bro |
| 02:42.18 | elmo40 | how are things? |
| 02:42.22 | elmo40 | get your editing? |
| 02:43.46 | DaRtH_VaDeR | hahaha |
| 02:43.48 | DaRtH_VaDeR | hey elmo40 |
| 02:43.50 | DaRtH_VaDeR | no ( |
| 02:43.52 | DaRtH_VaDeR | :( |
| 02:44.03 | DaRtH_VaDeR | i had to do the entire project again hahahaha |
| 02:44.21 | DaRtH_VaDeR | make menus, rip videos, etc :) |
| 02:44.29 | DaRtH_VaDeR | but, i have finished, xD |
| 02:44.43 | elmo40 | that sucks |
| 02:44.46 | elmo40 | what did you end up using? |
| 02:44.55 | DaRtH_VaDeR | hahaha |
| 02:44.57 | keyra | elmo40: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 02:45.07 | DaRtH_VaDeR | 2mandvd and devede |
| 02:45.14 | DaRtH_VaDeR | 2mandvd is awesome |
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| 02:46.11 | DaRtH_VaDeR | but i learned a lot of useful utilities!!! :) |
| 02:46.20 | DaRtH_VaDeR | (god i hate this kb ) |
| 02:46.42 | DaRtH_VaDeR | but, linux doesnt have something like dvdfab or an .vob & .ifo editor :D |
| 02:52.39 | elmo40 | they say XFS is the file system of choice |
| 02:54.23 | DaRtH_VaDeR | o.0 |
| 02:54.25 | DaRtH_VaDeR | who ? |
| 02:57.18 | elmo40 | they |
| 02:57.20 | elmo40 | you know |
| 02:57.21 | elmo40 | them |
| 02:57.27 | elmo40 | those people |
| 02:57.30 | elmo40 | >_< |
| 03:03.29 | elmo40 | DaRtH_VaDeR: here is a guide to making menus with Gimp! http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6953 |
| 03:04.08 | DaRtH_VaDeR | make it is not the problem |
| 03:04.14 | DaRtH_VaDeR | edit it ! |
| 03:04.27 | DaRtH_VaDeR | if u lost ur project, forget it, make it all again |
| 03:04.28 | DaRtH_VaDeR | xD |
| 03:04.34 | elmo40 | :/ |
| 03:05.12 | DaRtH_VaDeR | but i didnt know that, gimp is more powerfull that i culd imagin |
| 03:05.19 | DaRtH_VaDeR | could* imagine* |
| 03:05.22 | DaRtH_VaDeR | damn kb |
| 03:05.45 | DaRtH_VaDeR | well, elmo40 happy new year |
| 03:05.55 | DaRtH_VaDeR | i'll go to drink a little :) |
| 03:05.59 | keyra | DaRtH_VaDeR: Happy New year to you too :) and also Happy Birthday to Elive (5 years) :D |
| 03:06.08 | DaRtH_VaDeR | :D |
| 03:06.14 | DaRtH_VaDeR | keyra, i love u :) |
| 03:06.23 | DaRtH_VaDeR | bye all |
| 03:06.28 | keyra | DaRtH_VaDeR: I love you too :) |
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| 05:33.07 | elmo40 | !moo |
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| 05:44.57 | elmo401 | there are some damn nice apps for Linux! |
| 05:44.57 | elmo401 | http://www.openshotvideo.com/ |
| 05:48.01 | elmo401 | this also looks promising http://www.pitivi.org/ |
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| 08:47.07 | Wizard | hi! |
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| 11:38.20 | AlexAnteee | hi all |
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| 11:42.39 | Wizard | hi AlexAnteee |
| 11:44.04 | AlexAnteee | hello Wizard |
| 11:44.05 | AlexAnteee | o/ |
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| 11:46.07 | AlexAnteee | whats up, Wizard ? |
| 11:48.14 | Wizard | nah, i'm bored sitting at work |
| 11:48.23 | AlexAnteee | boring work? |
| 11:48.24 | Wizard | i've done everything which was to be done |
| 11:48.32 | Wizard | nothing to do actually |
| 11:48.37 | AlexAnteee | what's your work about? |
| 11:52.55 | Wizard | i'm in maintenance and support team of one enterprise application, which my company writes for major polish telecom |
| 11:53.04 | Wizard | and ocasionally i also code |
| 11:53.05 | Wizard | :P |
| 11:53.16 | AlexAnteee | Ah! yes, I remember! |
| 11:55.16 | AlexAnteee | You've told me about that special Software. |
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| 11:55.55 | AlexAnteee | hi PrinceAMD |
| 11:57.34 | PrinceAMD | hey AlexAnteee , good morning |
| 11:57.42 | AlexAnteee | lol... |
| 11:57.54 | AlexAnteee | morning? |
| 11:58.10 | AlexAnteee | its 1:00 pm here. |
| 11:58.39 | PrinceAMD | hehe it's 8:00am here |
| 11:58.49 | PrinceAMD | what u up to so late? |
| 11:58.59 | AlexAnteee | late? |
| 11:59.04 | AlexAnteee | its about noon. |
| 11:59.25 | PrinceAMD | :/, looks like i woke up stupid this morning |
| 11:59.40 | AlexAnteee | lol... you mixed up am and pm |
| 11:59.48 | AlexAnteee | *gg* |
| 12:00.07 | PrinceAMD | :/ what was for lunch? |
| 12:00.22 | AlexAnteee | nothing yet |
| 12:01.18 | AlexAnteee | I got some rice with pork and vegetable left in the fridge. |
| 12:01.32 | PrinceAMD | nice :) |
| 12:01.57 | AlexAnteee | just need to heat it. |
| 12:03.18 | PrinceAMD | yep |
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| 12:20.48 | AlexAnteee | holy crap! kids are igniting firecrackers! |
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| 12:20.52 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, is that common at your place too? |
| 12:23.38 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, yes, but it's illegal |
| 12:23.55 | wasynyt | good day people |
| 12:23.59 | AlexAnteee | Illegal for kids or in general? |
| 12:24.01 | AlexAnteee | hi wasynyt |
| 12:24.04 | PrinceAMD | kids play with the big ones n get there hands blown off |
| 12:24.11 | PrinceAMD | in general |
| 12:24.15 | AlexAnteee | yes, same here. |
| 12:24.22 | AlexAnteee | oh, its legal here for adults. |
| 12:24.25 | PrinceAMD | wasynyt, good day |
| 12:24.30 | PrinceAMD | wasynyt, how is it going? |
| 12:24.37 | wasynyt | quite well |
| 12:24.53 | wasynyt | just recovering from opensolaris update gone wrong |
| 12:24.57 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, well today is the last day of 2009, anyone drinking? |
| 12:25.03 | wasynyt | and preparing for the evening |
| 12:25.05 | PrinceAMD | wasynyt, lol |
| 12:25.26 | AlexAnteee | but only on 31. of December 24:00 to 1. of January 1:00. |
| 12:26.28 | AlexAnteee | the point I hate about firecrackers is, that it's frightening Animals! |
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| 12:27.05 | PrinceAMD | yes, watch out for dogs |
| 12:27.27 | AlexAnteee | huh? |
| 12:28.09 | wasynyt | AlexAnteee, :/ |
| 12:28.34 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, I dont understand why one should watch out for dogs. |
| 12:28.36 | PrinceAMD | the firecrackers startle dogs and sometimes the bite at ppl |
| 12:28.44 | AlexAnteee | ah |
| 12:29.27 | AlexAnteee | these poor animals get panic |
| 12:30.19 | PrinceAMD | yeah |
| 12:30.32 | AlexAnteee | I got a dog, too. |
| 12:30.54 | PrinceAMD | before 12:00 i'll head over to the supermarket n buy myself a large bottle 5year old rum :) |
| 12:32.11 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, got a picture? |
| 12:32.20 | AlexAnteee | a picture? |
| 12:32.22 | AlexAnteee | of what? |
| 12:32.28 | AlexAnteee | of rum? |
| 12:32.30 | PrinceAMD | oh ur wolf |
| 12:32.33 | PrinceAMD | of* |
| 12:32.34 | AlexAnteee | lol... |
| 12:33.23 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, i dont want a dog, it's too common, i want a wolf, one of those killer wolf . that only listens to me : |
| 12:33.51 | AlexAnteee | lol |
| 12:33.55 | PrinceAMD | hm, i dont think my country has any wolf |
| 12:34.08 | AlexAnteee | i would not recommend that. |
| 12:34.59 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, do u listen to ur doctor? |
| 12:35.48 | AlexAnteee | http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexantemachina/page3/ |
| 12:36.18 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, wasynyt what u got urself for xmas? |
| 12:36.36 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, listening to my doc? Sure! |
| 12:37.24 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, lol, gf has a dog just like yours, when i first met her, it wanted to eat my bones :/ |
| 12:37.33 | wasynyt | PrinceAMD, few ps3 games, new memorycard for my camera and few cloths |
| 12:37.38 | PrinceAMD | yours look pretty young |
| 12:37.42 | wasynyt | PrinceAMD, :D |
| 12:38.04 | PrinceAMD | wasynyt, nice :), i got myself a video card, but it is not delivered YET!!!! |
| 12:38.12 | wasynyt | !! |
| 12:40.25 | wasynyt | what video card did you get |
| 12:41.01 | PrinceAMD | XFX ATI Radeon 5770 |
| 12:41.20 | wasynyt | nice |
| 12:41.59 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexantemachina/2977203870/ |
| 12:42.12 | PrinceAMD | my 8600gt was dieing, but it's back to life again, had to change 4 capacitors on it |
| 12:42.46 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 12:43.00 | wasynyt | i have a geforce 8400 gs and it works really well |
| 12:43.52 | AlexAnteee | lol... reading about your gfx-cards makes me think my computer is ancient! |
| 12:44.13 | PrinceAMD | lol |
| 12:44.35 | PrinceAMD | i wanted to order a nvidia gtx260, but it uses more power idle than the ati |
| 12:44.37 | wasynyt | what do you have? |
| 12:45.33 | PrinceAMD | what i have???< video card?? 8600gt? |
| 12:45.37 | wasynyt | i dont like the nvidia gtx2xx series |
| 12:45.43 | wasynyt | no, AlexAnteee |
| 12:45.47 | PrinceAMD | use too much power |
| 12:45.53 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 12:46.20 | PrinceAMD | the ati 5770 uses 18watts idle, my damn 8600gt uses over 30watts idle |
| 12:46.35 | wasynyt | that is a serious difference |
| 12:47.53 | PrinceAMD | ok right now i am using 216watts, my entire system, when this card is not in the system it's about 146watts, this is idle, when i am maxing out my system it is about 270watts |
| 12:49.02 | AlexAnteee | lol... I got an PC with asrock k7s8x mainboard, a amd athlon 2400 (1.8 ghz) and a nvidia geforce 6200 gfx-card. |
| 12:49.41 | PrinceAMD | wow, 6200->8400->8600, lol |
| 12:50.18 | AlexAnteee | I was an outstanding system about 6 years ago. |
| 12:50.18 | PrinceAMD | i'm in a damn 3rd world country guys, well i spend alot on my damn pc |
| 12:50.20 | wasynyt | :P |
| 12:50.23 | AlexAnteee | *gg* |
| 12:50.54 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, ?? |
| 12:50.54 | wasynyt | PrinceAMD, well i dont play on my pc so i dont care about high end graphics, plus this 8400 gs is fanless |
| 12:51.24 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, I did not understand your last statement. |
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| 12:52.20 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, well, i live in a 3rd world country, well if something cost 50us where u are, it cost about 100-150us where i am, also you might get a new hardware today, i'll have to wait 1-2mths |
| 12:52.47 | AlexAnteee | uh? |
| 12:53.12 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, I thought things would be cheaper at your place. |
| 12:53.19 | PrinceAMD | LOL! |
| 12:53.42 | Elive_user17_it | hiall someone is using e17 on gentoo? |
| 12:54.18 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, i'm using e17 on arch linux, it's relatively close to gentoo without the hold compiling everything :) |
| 12:54.28 | Elive_user17_it | I know it |
| 12:54.36 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, what's up |
| 12:54.39 | Elive_user17_it | what about stability? |
| 12:54.46 | PrinceAMD | pretty stable here |
| 12:54.51 | PrinceAMD | kernel 2.6.32.2 |
| 12:55.00 | PrinceAMD | KMS works :) |
| 12:55.00 | Elive_user17_it | on gentoo I encountered some stability problems |
| 12:55.13 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, with? |
| 12:55.18 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, for example my gfx-card is a geforce 6200 with 256mb and passive cooling. It costs less than 50 Euro. |
| 12:55.50 | Elive_user17_it | I cant know because it ask me to restore with F1 every 10 minutes |
| 12:55.59 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, how much would u have to pay for a ati hd5770, wasynyt can u check also ur local price i want to compare |
| 12:56.12 | Elive_user17_it | maybe there are some libraries version that i should prefer? |
| 12:56.21 | AlexAnteee | okay, PrinceAMD ..... I'll check it instantly... |
| 12:56.22 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, ok, did u compile e17? |
| 12:56.27 | Elive_user17_it | yes |
| 12:56.36 | Elive_user17_it | from portage via layman |
| 12:56.40 | Elive_user17_it | ebuilds |
| 12:56.47 | Elive_user17_it | niifaq |
| 12:56.52 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, what is the svn revision? |
| 12:56.57 | Elive_user17_it | yes |
| 12:57.03 | Elive_user17_it | just a moment |
| 12:57.07 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 12:58.48 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, it's about 150 Euro. |
| 12:59.33 | Elive_user17_it | I think is git |
| 13:00.15 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, how much is it at your place? |
| 13:00.39 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, 216.131 USD, wow i paid about 250us for mine , at newegg.com where i ordered it i paid 179us |
| 13:00.48 | Elive_user17_it | 0.16.999.063 |
| 13:00.53 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, why so expensive there |
| 13:01.04 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, yes same version i have, i compiled this morning |
| 13:01.04 | AlexAnteee | dont know. |
| 13:01.14 | Elive_user17_it | I cant reach the svn revision |
| 13:01.22 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, u can try moving ur .e folder and reconfigure everything |
| 13:01.32 | PrinceAMD | mv .e .e_ |
| 13:01.36 | keyra | PrinceAMD: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils |
| 13:01.42 | Elive_user17_it | yes but whi elive team chooses debian as base? |
| 13:02.03 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, "it's easy on new users" |
| 13:02.22 | Elive_user17_it | Nothing about libraries stability? |
| 13:02.50 | Elive_user17_it | for example I cant compile programs like ephoto |
| 13:02.59 | Elive_user17_it | or the efl audio player |
| 13:03.02 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, well e17 libs , i dont expect really good stability every build because the codes keeps changing every day |
| 13:03.26 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, i can compile ephoto infact it works here right now |
| 13:03.27 | Elive_user17_it | maybe there will be a Stable version? |
| 13:03.59 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, soon, but i think this is a problem with ur ebuilds, maybe the package is not up to date?? |
| 13:04.09 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, do u have link to ur packages? |
| 13:04.10 | Elive_user17_it | what strategy did you use to compile it? |
| 13:04.35 | Elive_user17_it | svn congigure automake? |
| 13:04.37 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, i made a script to build and packages it for arch |
| 13:04.46 | Elive_user17_it | ok |
| 13:04.59 | AlexAnteee | Well, PrinceAMD seems like not everything is more expensive at your place. |
| 13:05.01 | PrinceAMD | svn, autogen, make |
| 13:05.23 | Elive_user17_it | I dont know why i left Arch.. |
| 13:05.51 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, well , i ordered this form the US, if i was to order it from a local store i would pay about 400us, a 8600gt is 200us here :/ |
| 13:06.03 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, i dont know either |
| 13:06.18 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, why did u leave though? |
| 13:06.34 | AlexAnteee | PrinceAMD, why is it sold so expensive at your local stores? |
| 13:06.42 | Elive_user17_it | because I learned linux thanks to gentoo |
| 13:07.08 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, well if u switch back in the future i'll send u my scripts to compile it |
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| 13:07.21 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, that is why i moved from debian to arch |
| 13:07.41 | PrinceAMD | arch is not far from gentoo, i think the only main difference is that u have to compile everything |
| 13:07.45 | Elive_user17_it | if you give me the script I should remove the pacjkaging lines and use it! |
| 13:08.01 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, ok let me tar n send |
| 13:08.08 | Elive_user17_it | thnk! |
| 13:09.40 | Elive_user17_it | The first motif for leaving arch has been frequently momentary instability on updates |
| 13:09.42 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, does PKGBUILD work on gentoo? |
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| 13:10.03 | Elive_user17_it | yes |
| 13:10.09 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 13:10.30 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, do u have Arch ABS ? |
| 13:10.43 | Elive_user17_it | no |
| 13:10.54 | PrinceAMD | ok let me customize some stuff before i send |
| 13:10.59 | Elive_user17_it | but i have a radeon graphic card |
| 13:11.17 | PrinceAMD | ok |
| 13:11.24 | Elive_user17_it | and when I left arch It needs an unstable Xorg package |
| 13:11.32 | Elive_user17_it | and so on |
| 13:11.57 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, yeah i was in the same shit |
| 13:11.57 | PrinceAMD | i have 3200hd |
| 13:12.11 | Elive_user17_it | me mobile hd4650 |
| 13:12.14 | PrinceAMD | i just wrote a script to update mesa, ati,drm, to git version and everything works fine :) |
| 13:12.22 | PrinceAMD | my laptop has 3200hd works there too |
| 13:12.50 | Elive_user17_it | with proprietary or open drivers? |
| 13:13.01 | PrinceAMD | open drivers |
| 13:13.06 | Elive_user17_it | radeonhd.. |
| 13:13.12 | PrinceAMD | no, ati |
| 13:13.19 | PrinceAMD | xf86-video-ati |
| 13:13.28 | PrinceAMD | radeonhd sucks, it freezes |
| 13:13.36 | Elive_user17_it | and does ecomorph work? |
| 13:13.42 | keyra | PrinceAMD: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 13:14.22 | AlexAnteee | Yes, PrinceAMD! Keep that in mind! |
| 13:14.25 | AlexAnteee | ;) |
| 13:14.44 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user17_it, i dont use ecomorph, it's too flashy hehe |
| 13:14.52 | PrinceAMD | AlexAnteee, lol |
| 13:15.39 | AlexAnteee | to me ecomorph simply uses up too much cpu-power. |
| 13:16.58 | PrinceAMD | well that too, but when i am working i need speed, most time i am browsing through pages, i got 6 on each screen so :) |
| 13:17.24 | AlexAnteee | folks, im leaving now.... i#ll be back later. |
| 13:19.12 | PrinceAMD | lol |
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| 13:51.59 | sam^2 | hi somebody there ? |
| 13:52.05 | sam^2 | hi there ! i've got a problem when trying to install 1.9.52 dev version to the hdd |
| 13:53.09 | sam^2 | it hangs during the integrity signature check |
| 13:53.14 | sam^2 | and i would like to bypass this annoying checking since I know through md5sum that the iso is correct |
| 13:53.29 | keyra | sam^2: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 13:53.40 | sam^2 | get out damn bot |
| 13:54.01 | sam^2 | md5 |
| 13:54.29 | sam^2 | md5sum |
| 13:54.54 | sam^2 | i would like to bypass this annoying checking since I know through md5sum that the iso is correct |
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| 15:07.52 | Elive_user81_en | somebody there ?? |
| 15:08.39 | Elive_user81_en | need help |
| 15:20.14 | elmo40 | sam^3: hi |
| 15:20.29 | sam^3 | cool someone ! |
| 15:20.33 | sam^3 | hi ! |
| 15:20.43 | sam^3 | i've got a problem when trying to install 1.9.52 dev version to the hdd |
| 15:20.48 | sam^3 | it hangs during the integrity signature check |
| 15:20.54 | sam^3 | and i would like to bypass this annoying checking since I know through md5sum that the iso is correct |
| 15:21.06 | sam^3 | no way to bypass the checking ? the problem is probably that i'm booting from an usb key, and mounting directly the iso with grub2 lying in the mbr of the key |
| 15:21.08 | keyra | sam^3: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 15:21.14 | sam^3 | damn keyra ! |
| 15:21.22 | keyra | sam^3: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 15:22.09 | sam^3 | the only workaround i've found is to mount the squashfs filesytem and to copy directly the content onto the hdd target |
| 15:22.41 | sam^3 | I've tried to strace eliveinstaller to understand how it works but strace segfault |
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| 15:33.51 | AlexAnteee | hi all |
| 15:33.52 | AlexAnteee | o/ |
| 15:34.30 | sam^3 | hi |
| 15:34.45 | AlexAnteee | hi sam^3 |
| 15:35.13 | sam^3 | do you know elive well ? because i'm struggling with a strange problem |
| 15:36.07 | AlexAnteee | quite well, yes. |
| 15:38.35 | AlexAnteee | sam^3, ping |
| 15:39.09 | sam^3 | ok could you read the message i've written before you join us ? |
| 15:39.21 | AlexAnteee | no |
| 15:39.45 | AlexAnteee | but i know you are from finland. |
| 15:41.35 | elmo40 | sam^3: why such an old version? |
| 15:41.54 | elmo40 | sam^3: finish? Tere ;) |
| 15:42.12 | sam^3 | lol me from finland ? |
| 15:42.15 | AlexAnteee | if sam^3 would repeat his writing I could read it. |
| 15:42.24 | elmo40 | AlexAnteee: don't worry |
| 15:42.34 | sam^3 | hi there ! i've got a problem when trying to install 1.9.52 dev version to the hdd |
| 15:42.40 | sam^3 | and i would like to bypass this annoying checking since I know through md5sum that the iso is correct |
| 15:42.48 | sam^3 | no way to bypass the checking ? the problem is probably that i'm booting from an usb key, and mounting directly the iso with grub2 lying in the mbr of the key |
| 15:42.54 | keyra | sam^3: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 15:42.58 | AlexAnteee | sam^3, forget about 1.9.52. |
| 15:43.04 | AlexAnteee | get 1.9.54. |
| 15:43.08 | keyra | sam^3: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 15:43.09 | AlexAnteee | that's latest version. |
| 15:43.15 | sam^3 | same problem with 1.9.53 and 1.9.54 |
| 15:43.34 | AlexAnteee | just let it run that checking. |
| 15:43.45 | elmo40 | you don't need to, hit cancel |
| 15:44.05 | sam^3 | i let it run but it says that my "cd" is corrupted, and i know it's not |
| 15:44.16 | sam^3 | and hitting cancel close the installation |
| 15:44.23 | AlexAnteee | wow. |
| 15:44.24 | AlexAnteee | nice. |
| 15:44.33 | elmo40 | you are talking about 'let me check this cd, will take some time' window? |
| 15:44.42 | sam^3 | yep |
| 15:44.47 | elmo40 | you can cancel that and continue |
| 15:44.56 | elmo40 | or select No, I don't remember the installer :P |
| 15:45.29 | sam^3 | nope, when hitting cancel, the installer stops |
| 15:46.28 | elmo40 | ok, hold on. |
| 15:46.45 | AlexAnteee | sam^3, start it from a terminal. that will tell you where the error happens. |
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| 15:47.00 | keyra | AlexAnteee: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :) |
| 15:47.11 | AlexAnteee | lol |
| 15:47.31 | sam^3 | already done, eliveinstaller debug |
| 15:47.44 | AlexAnteee | any useful info? |
| 15:47.57 | sam^3 | nope, not really |
| 15:48.03 | sam^3 | it does the integrity check |
| 15:48.15 | AlexAnteee | okay. |
| 15:48.16 | elmo40 | sam^3: give me a second... |
| 15:48.33 | sam^3 | and if i hit cancel, the installer stops |
| 15:48.48 | sam^3 | if i let it continue, it tells me that my system is corrupted |
| 15:49.02 | sam^3 | i've check the iso through md5 and it's ok |
| 15:49.06 | AlexAnteee | that sounds really annoying. |
| 15:49.27 | sam^3 | i know that i'm using my usb key "weirdly", because i'm using a kind of multiboot system on my key |
| 15:49.36 | sam^3 | i only put the iso, and grub2 does the job |
| 15:49.40 | sam^3 | the isos |
| 15:49.48 | sam^3 | grub2 is able to boot from iso file |
| 15:50.04 | sam^3 | so i've got a collection of isos on my usb key, and booting the one i chose |
| 15:50.19 | keyra | sam^3: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 15:50.26 | sam^3 | lol shut up |
| 15:50.49 | sam^3 | but i've just discovered something weird |
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| 15:51.05 | sam^3 | i've tried to work around this problem by mounting the squashfs filesystem |
| 15:51.22 | elmo40 | sam^3: so everything is on the usb? the iso image and grub2? |
| 15:51.23 | sam^3 | but i've got 5 I/O errors when i do a "cp -a" on my hdd |
| 15:51.34 | sam^3 | elmo40, yep |
| 15:52.15 | sam^3 | check this utility : http://liveusb.info/dotclear/ |
| 15:52.27 | sam^3 | a kind of unetbootin on steroirds ! ;-) |
| 15:52.42 | keyra | sam^3: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) |
| 15:52.56 | AlexAnteee | sam^3, how about trying one of the "normal" ways? |
| 15:53.13 | sam^3 | lol because it's not funny dude ! |
| 15:53.31 | AlexAnteee | its probably a problem with that tool. |
| 15:53.34 | sam^3 | i want to have the possibility to install elive through this multiboot method |
| 15:54.15 | sam^3 | anyway, it's a possibility for me to contribute to elive ! i tried to locate the source code of eliveinstaller, but unsuccessfully |
| 15:54.29 | keyra | sam^3: Would you like to contribute to Elive? You can make some Translations http://dev.elivecd.org, report bugs (very important) http://bugs.elivecd.org, help with the wireless support, make any patch or better feature and send to the dev. etc... |
| 15:54.35 | elmo40 | this 'tool' you have, it is to run distros off of USB? |
| 15:54.41 | elmo40 | it also installs them? |
| 15:54.46 | AlexAnteee | well, sam^3, that's kind of bleeding-edge stuff you are using. |
| 15:55.06 | sam^3 | it's like you run your distro from a cd, but it's on usb key |
| 15:55.23 | sam^3 | yep i know that alexanteee |
| 15:55.32 | AlexAnteee | good you know that! |
| 15:55.33 | AlexAnteee | :) |
| 15:55.45 | sam^3 | what is strange is that i've already managed to install elive through this method |
| 15:55.47 | elmo40 | sam^3: ok, first off, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:55.54 | elmo40 | there is a newer eliveinstaller |
| 15:56.01 | keyra | elmo40: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 15:56.06 | sam^3 | i've already update the eliveinstaller |
| 15:56.12 | AlexAnteee | or just make apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g |
| 15:56.14 | elmo40 | ok |
| 15:56.21 | keyra | sam^3: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 15:56.26 | sam^3 | any difference between the 4g and ng ? |
| 15:56.37 | elmo40 | which mode, Complete? |
| 15:56.47 | elmo40 | 4g is the latest |
| 15:56.56 | sam^3 | eliveinstaller-4g is already the newest version |
| 15:57.20 | sam^3 | there is eliveinstaller-ng too but don't know what it is |
| 15:57.23 | elmo40 | now, from the console as root run eliveinstaller (can see some outputs that may cause the problems) |
| 15:57.37 | sam^3 | :-) already did that dude ;-) |
| 15:57.52 | elmo40 | sam^3: listen, I am going step by step, ok? |
| 15:57.53 | sam^3 | it simply hangs when checking for the integrity |
| 15:57.58 | sam^3 | no problem |
| 15:58.20 | sam^3 | as root, i've run "eliveinstaller debug" a dozen times |
| 15:59.10 | AlexAnteee | *gg* sounds like a stable problem. |
| 16:01.08 | sam^3 | ok let me try something, hang on |
| 16:01.21 | AlexAnteee | hangs on... |
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| 16:01.39 | elmo401 | you should be able to bypass the check |
| 16:02.23 | sam^3 | i'd like too ! |
| 16:02.52 | sam^3 | do you know if there is an archive of md5 and iso files of the elive dev version ? |
| 16:03.06 | keyra | sam^3: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 16:03.18 | elmo401 | only the download servers... and they don't keep old versions |
| 16:04.19 | sam^3 | looking for md5 sum for 1.9.52 |
| 16:07.26 | sam^3 | ok i'm running an md5sum of my 1.9.53 iso and we will try together step by step again |
| 16:07.33 | sam^3 | i'll come back |
| 16:11.19 | elmo40 | I will be here |
| 16:11.28 | elmo40 | in spirit ;) |
| 16:12.05 | AlexAnteee | you both sound like a couple in an old movie. |
| 16:12.13 | AlexAnteee | :) |
| 16:13.04 | sam^3 | :-) do you know where is located the source code of the eliveinstaller ? |
| 16:13.19 | sam^3 | i'd like to check out inside the code , but i'm unable to find it ! |
| 16:13.55 | sam^3 | don't tell me that it is closed ! |
| 16:14.23 | elmo40 | can't get it |
| 16:14.27 | elmo40 | not available |
| 16:14.43 | elmo40 | for thana's eyes only ;) |
| 16:15.45 | sam^3 | not really good... |
| 16:16.13 | sam^3 | i love this distro but i don't like the way it's done |
| 16:16.27 | elmo40 | then you don't love this distro |
| 16:16.49 | sam^3 | yep, maybe i just love e17+ecomorph |
| 16:17.34 | sam^3 | i'm planning to looking for a more open distro supporting e17/ecomorph, for the moment, i'm playing with it |
| 16:17.57 | elmo40 | *buntu's geos, I believe |
| 16:18.20 | sam^3 | anyway for the challenge, i would like to install elive on my damn hd ;-) |
| 16:18.42 | sam^3 | right now, i'm writing from my usb key |
| 16:18.55 | sam^3 | come back with the 1.9.53 |
| 16:19.05 | sam^3 | the md5sum is ok |
| 16:19.09 | sam^3 | see ya |
| 16:19.19 | keyra | sam^3: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 16:19.20 | elmo40 | interesting bloke |
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| 16:28.52 | Elive_user62_en | back with 1.9.53 |
| 16:29.16 | sam^3 | got some issue with the latest version, ecomorph does not work well |
| 16:29.27 | sam^3 | blank windows syndrom |
| 16:29.49 | sam^3 | let-s go with eliveinstaller debug |
| 16:33.43 | sam^3 | three error before integrity_signature_check |
| 16:33.46 | sam^3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.04 | sam^3 | can't access to /elive/.mnt/cdrom/system/* |
| 16:34.20 | sam^3 | idem for /elive/.mnt/cdrom/deliver/* |
| 16:34.32 | sam^3 | idem for /elive/.mnt/cdrom/boot/initrd.img* |
| 16:35.01 | sam^3 | it's because it's my whole usb key which is mounted to this directory |
| 16:35.31 | sam^3 | my guess is that the installer try to do an md5sum for my whole usb key, that is why it takes a so long time |
| 16:35.44 | sam^3 | my usb key is a 8 Gb one |
| 16:35.46 | keyra | sam^3: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5 |
| 16:36.23 | sam^3 | so if the guess is correct, i'm trying to remount this directory to fake the installer |
| 16:36.54 | sam^3 | mount -o loop cdrom/elive_1.9.53_unstable.iso cdrom/ |
| 16:36.59 | sam^3 | and trying again |
| 16:38.41 | sam^3 | elmo401, do you copy ;-) ? |
| 16:39.13 | sam^3 | now after this trick, no more error |
| 16:39.16 | sam^3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.16 | sam^3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.58 | Elive_user87_ru | Hello world |
| 16:43.16 | Elive_user87_ru | and Happy New Year :) |
| 16:43.30 | keyra | Elive_user87_ru: Happy New year to you too :) and also Happy Birthday to Elive (5 years) :D |
| 16:43.42 | Elive_user87_ru | Wow |
| 16:48.01 | AlexAnteee | Elive_user87_ru, happy new year? |
| 16:48.14 | AlexAnteee | 6 more hours to go! |
| 16:48.15 | keyra | AlexAnteee: Happy New year to you too :) and also Happy Birthday to Elive (5 years) :D |
| 16:49.20 | Elive_user87_ru | Nearly there :) |
| 16:55.21 | sam^3 | ok elive is installing now, so the remounting did the trick ! |
| 16:56.24 | AlexAnteee | Remounting! |
| 16:56.27 | AlexAnteee | wohooo! |
| 16:56.35 | AlexAnteee | Remounting rocks! |
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| 17:33.50 | reeher | Heyas all. Happy New Year, if you're abotu to celebrate this evening! Not so simple question. I'm running evolutin, and i have to hook it to an exchange 5.5 server, which is much more simple if I use evolution-mapi <more - don't wnt to spam> |
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| 17:34.05 | keyra | reeher: Happy New year to you too :) and also Happy Birthday to Elive (5 years) :D |
| 17:35.21 | reeher | as opposed to evolution-imap. evolution-mapi is only in Deb Sid, not lenny and depends on a metric CRAPLOAD of packages. Does anyone have any experience trying to run elive on a system that has been upgraded to Sid? |
| 17:35.36 | keyra | reeher: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 17:36.17 | reeher | !botsnack |
| 17:36.34 | reeher | Hrm.. smart bot, but no tricks. :) SOrry keyra, no botsnack for you. |
| 17:36.49 | keyra | reeher: me? |
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| 17:37.19 | reeher | Heh, yes. long story, involving #debain and the old bot apt. |
| 17:39.28 | reeher | So, is the newest dev release of Elive based on Sid? |
| 17:41.03 | reeher | I know it's not, but I thought I'd ask. |
| 17:41.26 | AlexAnteMachina | guess its squeeze |
| 17:42.46 | AlexAnteMachina | no! lenny! |
| 17:43.04 | reeher | Sweet.. but still not current enough. GRRR |
| 17:43.11 | reeher | veddy frustrating. |
| 17:43.41 | AlexAnteMachina | why is that so veddy fdustdating? |
| 17:44.52 | reeher | This really sucks. I may have to rebuild my system into Debian sid... Oh, because my work is running Exchange 2007 server, but they are not running IMAP with WebDAV, so I can't use the evolution-imap plugin. |
| 17:45.18 | reeher | therefore I have to resort to the evolution-mapi plugin, which is only in Deb Sid. |
| 17:45.20 | keyra | reeher: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 17:45.32 | AlexAnteMachina | doh! |
| 17:45.38 | AlexAnteMachina | thats above my head! |
| 17:46.16 | AlexAnteMachina | reeher, you may talk to thana. |
| 17:46.46 | reeher | And I can't just use the debian repository for evolution-mapi because it relies on so many other packages, including libc, which would probably break ELive. |
| 17:47.01 | keyra | reeher: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 17:47.02 | reeher | Stuck between a rock and a hard place. |
| 17:47.32 | reeher | keyra: thanks, and hush, take a short nap. |
| 17:47.47 | keyra | reeher: welcome :) |
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| 17:51.26 | reeher | Bah, it even wants to remove elive, so absolutely a no go. Fsck. |
| 17:51.36 | reeher | Sid does, that is. |
| 17:51.56 | reeher | So damned close, yet so far... |
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| 17:53.25 | reeher | does anyone know of a way to have apt or dpkg show an entire dependency tree? |
| 17:54.26 | AlexAnteMachina | reeher, you've really chosen the wrong day for those questions. |
| 17:54.36 | reeher | Heh,yeah, I know. :) |
| 17:55.21 | reeher | It is for the same reason I have the time to ask those questions.. I'm at work and 70% of the people are out, so today is very quiet indeed. |
| 17:55.32 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 17:56.04 | reeher | I'm afraid I may have to completely rebuild into Deb sid and use the alphagemini packages. Feh. |
| 17:56.53 | AlexAnteMachina | I'd recommend waiting some days for thana to show up and ask him about it. |
| 17:57.26 | reeher | I am going to. I may just work extra late some night so I can tinker... actually, is there a mailing list? I never checked. |
| 17:57.40 | keyra | reeher: The mailing list for elive is on http://groups.google.com/group/elive-testers . Its specially used to talk about new development versions, testing hardware and features |
| 17:58.00 | reeher | Thanks keyra! !botsnack |
| 17:58.15 | keyra | reeher: bot |
| 17:58.39 | AlexAnteMachina | reeher, just take a look at the website. |
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| 23:10.22 | AlexAnteMachina | happy new year folks! |
| 23:10.37 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: Happy New year to you too :) and also Happy Birthday to Elive (5 years) :D |
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