IRC log for #elive on 20100117

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00:22.19kingdonis finally hacking on elitaire
00:42.09MermouyCiao
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00:45.23she_dyedu can hack it?
00:45.37she_dyedthere should be a speed or auto mode
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01:16.31she_dyedbesides i have to click on each card just to flip them over *sigh*
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02:24.47throdonjust started trying out Elive, super impressed, better than bolting e17 onto my regular distro
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02:54.37she_dyedthrodon what was your regular distro?
02:55.16throdonsabayon and I still use and love it but, elive is my new light wight distro
02:55.45she_dyedwhere do you have it, on old hardware or a laptop?
02:56.04throdonlaptop
02:57.26throdon2 GHz ram dual 2.16 GHz processor
02:57.40she_dyedthe graphics chip, whats in it?
02:57.41keyrathrodon: to use 16 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
02:57.57she_dyedpay no attention to her
02:58.59she_dyedmy older-htan-yours has savage and I dont think it handles the latest n greatest elive
03:00.19throdonstarted using unetbootin and elive unstable was one of the distros, WOW, not much of a DEB fan but elive is cool
03:00.34keyrathrodon: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows)
03:00.54she_dyedyou should grab one of the newer themes
03:01.01throdonI installed it to my hard drive from usb stick
03:01.15she_dyedexchange.enlightenment.org or e17-stuff.org
03:01.15keyrathrodon: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
03:01.31she_dyednice going throdon
03:02.08throdonit wasn't that hard I have a gentoo install under my belt and use sabayon for the last 3 years
03:02.49throdontook a little hacking to alow me to install deb packages but it wasn't that hard
03:03.15she_dyedoh from gentoo and sabayon
03:03.23she_dyedi would think so
03:03.34she_dyedyou might figure stuff out faster
03:03.48she_dyedbefore you finish posting the question lol
03:04.41throdonyeah just a little low level hacking and this is a great distro, I regularly run KDE but e17 is a close second favorite
03:05.28she_dyednice, wifi work for you out of the box?
03:05.43keyrashe_dyed: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
03:07.06throdonyes my onboard card and a belkin usb stick work out of the box, have not tried my linksys wusb600n yet
03:07.35throdonmost everything works for me or I tinkered with it to work
03:09.40she_dyedhey you know what you're doing, how come a collection of wifi stix/cards? Did you have to explore?
03:10.52throdonwhen i stared linux i bought the belkin, got lucky it worked with ubuntu 7.04 and has worked with almost everyother distro i tried
03:11.21throdonthe wusb600n was when i used to use windows/and for range
03:11.36she_dyedwere you able to use it other than in windows?
03:13.45throdonno i never got around to it. for some reason the ralink 2870 driver needs more hacking than i am ready for
03:14.46she_dyedyea i seen that thing come up in problems in other distro channels
03:17.02throdonyeah, something to do with blacklisting and activating drivers
03:27.44throdonhow do i set what browser opens up when i open a link, iceweasel 2.0.0.8 is too old for me
03:30.55she_dyedi think it has to do with alternative-browser or some such
03:31.09she_dyedyou might see update-<tab>
03:31.26she_dyedto set brwoser to something else you have
03:31.59she_dyedhmmm iirc /etc/X11/alternative apps or something like that
03:32.26throdoni come from a kde ddistro where there is a menu item that is perfered apps, just don't know what i am looking for in settings on elive.
03:32.50throdoni want to change my perfered browser from ice weasel to swiftfox
03:33.29she_dyedtwo ways is make a new app called surf or swift
03:33.41she_dyedgive it an icon and take out the weasel thing from the dock
03:33.54she_dyedthere is a menu item to make this happen
03:34.07she_dyedexplore settings>settings menu
03:34.22she_dyedi cant recall if there is administration or preference
03:34.38throdoni mean when use skype and i click on a link it opens IW istead of SWFOX
03:35.06she_dyedi think you need udpate-altrnative
03:35.49throdoni will check settings again, just thought there might be an easy fix that i wasn't seeing.
03:36.16she_dyedeven there is where you can change default term  to something other than urxvt
03:37.15throdoni am not that worried i will find and fix it eventually, thats the cool thing about distros reinstall
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03:44.56she_dyedupdate-alternatives came up on suse+e
03:50.31she_dyedso i could be talkiin outta my arse
03:50.40she_dyedidk if e17 has it
03:50.43she_dyedelive i mean
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03:58.37twiggzok
03:58.46twiggztwo things so far on the latest devel version
03:59.40twiggzwhen ecomorhp is enabled with my onboard gma 950, its crap....it hasnt been before..its pefectly fine in my wifes box with her crap nvidia fx5500
04:00.10twiggzsecond, quit begging, this TODO thing asking people to give you money makes you look weak
04:00.43she_dyedi believe he explained that second one well
04:00.47twiggzthats as bad as people using mIRC that have to look at khaled mardem beys face everytime they open mIRC for a donation.
04:01.29she_dyedi do suggest you read it
04:01.36she_dyedat first i didnt get it
04:01.39twiggzyeah, i read it, its 2 lines.
04:01.47she_dyedthen he explained what FREE meant
04:02.03she_dyedyou read the wrong one
04:03.58she_dyedor download devel up to 1.56.9999 and get the closest version to 2.0
04:04.10she_dyedand not donate
04:04.32she_dyedwhich like he said, you can do
04:08.32she_dyedif the last remaining bugs dont affect me, i will stay with what I have
04:10.06she_dyedif you have a blog write something about e and he'll give you an invite
04:10.19she_dyedabout elive that is
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08:35.51twiggzwtf
08:37.14twiggzmaking some shit pop up on your desktop like your name is khaled mardem bey, is just wrong.
08:38.15twiggzi realize that for the most part that there is one dude doing tghe work here..
08:38.37twiggzbut dont make yourself look pity
08:41.18twiggzand debian stable apps suck
08:41.20twiggzreally
08:41.45twiggzstart basing this shit on testing on unstable atleast..preferably testing..
08:42.07twiggzwhy bother with a new kernel for a stable basted shit?
08:43.15twiggzNOTHING new runs on it...not the new pidgin, the emesene doesnt work...the amsn that was ditched DOES WORK
08:43.43twiggzdebian backports does not work 99% of the time with this shit...
08:44.23twiggzhas does his homework and testing on multiple machines with different specs that are verycommon
08:46.27twiggz5 versions ago ecomorph worked great with my onboard intel, but not with the wifes nvidia card (173 driver) ...now the wifes machine works awesome with ecomorph, mine does to as long as i dont enable ecomorph...
08:46.29twiggzlol..
08:47.15twiggzsame thing on the core2duo proc, bisostar mobo and gma 3100 intel onboard too..
08:47.19twiggzits crap.
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11:24.18YchouchaoOOO
11:27.03Wizard.oO°
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11:34.29AlexAnteeehi all
11:34.34AlexAnteeehey she_dyed sup?
11:36.19Wizardhi AlexAnteee
11:36.24AlexAnteeehi Wizard
11:36.29AlexAnteeewhats up?
11:36.45Wizardi've just set up kde and clicking around
11:36.51AlexAnteeekde
11:37.02Wizardi gave up all those crap with vala
11:37.11AlexAnteeelol
11:37.12Ychouchai can't connect on e.fr
11:37.19Ychouchasomeone knwo why?
11:37.22AlexAnteeeno
11:37.52AlexAnteeeWizard, what kde version?
11:38.10Wizard4
11:38.30AlexAnteeeare you using amarok as well?
11:39.08Wizardi guess it's installed, but i haven't played anything yet
11:39.08Wizard:P
11:39.13Wizardbut i suppose i will
11:39.58AlexAnteeeamarok is really nice
11:40.06Wizardyes, it is
11:40.22Wizardquit bloated, but at leas it works
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11:40.40AlexAnteeeunfortunately that's all very ressource hungry.
11:42.05Wizardhttp://wklej.org/id/264450/
11:42.08Wizardnot so much ;D
11:43.57AlexAnteeewhat cpu has that machine?
11:44.56WizardG4 1,5GHz
11:45.16AlexAnteeeg4?
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11:45.54Wizardhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4
11:45.56Wizardthis
11:46.10Ychouchao o oO
11:46.12AlexAnteeelol... its a apple!
11:46.12Ychouchawell
11:46.25Ychouchai need to knwo how to codinf with EFL?
11:47.05Wizardhehe, svn co e17 sources ;D
11:48.18AlexAnteeei have a ppc here too.
11:48.33AlexAnteeeits supposed to be a hmm,..
11:48.36Wizardyes, you told me once :)
11:48.38AlexAnteeeg4? g3?
11:48.53AlexAnteeeit has two 1.0ghz cpu
11:49.02Wizardthan G4 probably
11:49.07AlexAnteeethink so too
11:49.16AlexAnteeedamn loud machine
11:49.27AlexAnteeelike a hairdryer
11:50.26Wizard:D
11:50.37Wizardwas it designed to be a server or what?
11:50.40AlexAnteeethats y im not using it
11:50.45AlexAnteeedunno.
11:50.48Wizardor is it one of powermacs?
11:50.54AlexAnteeemaybe it was made for the deaf
11:50.58Wizardlol
11:51.04AlexAnteeeyes its a powermac
11:51.07Wizardit's rather old, may have 5-6 years
11:51.12Wizardso ordinary desktop machine
11:51.22Wizardclean or replace fans and it will shine as new
11:51.28AlexAnteeecant be made for the blind. looks too damn good.
11:51.49Wizardthose machines where prety damn good imo
11:51.51AlexAnteeelol... yes. but replacing the fans isnt that easy.
11:51.59Wizardwhy?
11:52.24AlexAnteeethey wired that machine very..... uhm.... special!
11:53.06Wizardhmm, apple has good technical references on their website
11:53.27Wizardalso, you can buy a can of pressured air
11:53.47AlexAnteeeill care for that as soon i got more money.
11:54.07Wizardit costs ~30zł here, so it's about hmm.. 5-6E
11:54.28AlexAnteeeas long as i have to think like: buying food or a new fan?
11:55.03AlexAnteeei prefer the food.
11:55.30Wizardcompletly understood
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12:02.28AlexAnteeewell, there is a chance I may get a job quite soon.
12:05.14Wizardcool, what kind of job?
12:05.42AlexAnteeewell, chances are I can do what i've one learnd.
12:05.52AlexAnteeeI used to be a cabinet-maker.
12:06.10Wizardyeah, you told me
12:06.28Wizardso i assume you're happy?
12:06.42AlexAnteeequite so, yes
12:06.49Wizard:]
12:07.37AlexAnteeeseems to be a small workshop with a nice owner.
12:09.59Wizardnice
12:10.41AlexAnteeenext tuesday I'll have an interview.
12:11.40Wizardhow big are the chanses?
12:11.49AlexAnteeequite good.
12:13.02Wizardexcellent
12:13.18AlexAnteeei was thalking to him on the phone twice.
12:13.52AlexAnteeeif there was no chance he already would have told me.
12:14.49AlexAnteeemaybe it's not a full-time job but thats okay.
12:16.06Wizardmy father knows alot of guys who own carpentries
12:16.32Wizardbut i guess you don't wan't to move east
12:16.33AlexAnteeeI've finished appreticeship about 9 years ago and did not work as carpenter since then.
12:17.18Wizardhmm.. staretd to work in IT when i was 2nd year student..
12:17.54AlexAnteeewell, i'd move to the east. But dont speak polish.
12:18.26Wizardand that would be the worst thing
12:18.41AlexAnteeeyep!
12:29.46AlexAnteeeWizard, do you have a dog?
12:30.52Wizardno
12:31.02AlexAnteeeany other pet?
12:31.07Wizardcat
12:31.49Wizardand it's very annoying last days
12:31.55AlexAnteeewell, those have fluffy fur too.
12:32.13AlexAnteeethe most important rule:
12:32.24Wizardit's a young female and wants to mate
12:32.35Wizardkeep it away from computer fans? :D
12:32.37AlexAnteeeCuddle the cat/dog as long as it's still warm!
12:33.37Wizardhehehe
12:33.43AlexAnteeewhen it turns cold cuddeling and grooming becomes useless.
12:34.02Wizarddid your dog die?
12:34.18AlexAnteeenot yet
12:34.37AlexAnteeethat's why I'm cuddeling him.
12:34.40AlexAnteee:)
12:35.51Wizardsometimes my cat does not like cuddeling
12:36.06Wizardand she just wants to sit or sleep nearby
12:36.53AlexAnteeemaybe I'll cuddle my dog to deaht!
12:37.16Wizardnow she took strategic position on tv and watches what's happening in the kictchen
12:40.37AlexAnteeethe kitchen is important to watch!
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12:56.42Wizardnah, of course ;)
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13:06.43AlexAnteeeWizard, do you know a tool to show diskspace-usage?
13:07.52she_dyed<PROTECTED>
13:07.55she_dyedo/
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13:09.18AlexAnteeeWizard, o/
13:09.30AlexAnteeemy battery just run empty
13:09.49WizardAlexAnteee: i was afk ;P
13:09.52she_dyedthats like totally dry  to unplug you like that
13:09.54AlexAnteeek
13:09.58Wizardbaobab from gnome is pretty nice
13:10.17AlexAnteeebaobab ?
13:10.20she_dyedthat a disk usage thing?
13:11.10she_dyedi used to use fsv, its good to show large files but not remaining space
13:11.20she_dyedAlexAnteee: there's places module
13:12.08Wizardbaobab shows disk usage for each directory and shows it on tree and pie chart
13:12.13she_dyedfsv is in repos but i think it will ask that you install an old dependency that would drag everything else down
13:12.15Wizardand you can delete files from it
13:12.55she_dyedWizard: would it need some gnome-specific deps?
13:13.30Wizardyeah, libraries, but i bet they are in elive by default
13:13.37she_dyedah ok!
13:13.42Wizardthana used gnome-system-config :P
13:14.05she_dyedmaybe for the gtk stuff...
13:14.24she_dyednice move imo
13:19.08AlexAnteeebaobab looks nice
13:20.41AlexAnteeeit has a ugly name but it works well.
13:24.54AlexAnteeeits really a good app!
13:25.47Wizard:)
13:25.53Wizarduses only good apps
13:25.58AlexAnteeelol
13:26.18AlexAnteeethats why u r working on windows-systems very often.
13:26.42Wizardi *don't*
13:27.05AlexAnteeeis sceptic
13:28.02Wizardwhy?
13:28.10AlexAnteeeu dont use win?
13:28.31AlexAnteeereally?
13:29.33AlexAnteeebe honest
13:37.02Wizardnah, i have to
13:37.30Wizardsometimes i have to remote login to one, specific windows virtual machine
13:38.25AlexAnteeeits a shame
13:39.33AlexAnteeefor some reason i never understood there is lots of bad software.
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13:39.53AlexAnteeeI used to work at an hotel for over 6 years.
13:40.19AlexAnteeethere is special software used for managing hotels.
13:40.40AlexAnteeethis software doesnt even look damn ugly.
13:41.12AlexAnteeeit's a torture to use that software and it works quite bad.
13:41.17AlexAnteeebut the worst thing:
13:41.22AlexAnteeeits damn expensive.
13:41.37Wizard:D
13:41.58Wizardi'm gonna learn qt soon and start my own software company
13:41.59AlexAnteeethey switched to a new version about 2 years ago.
13:42.39AlexAnteeethere were about 6 guys working on the migration.
13:42.53AlexAnteeeand it was a small hotel with only about 50 rooms!
13:43.21she_dyedthey had their own app?
13:43.39AlexAnteeehuh?
13:43.53she_dyedmigrated and rolled their own software?
13:44.04AlexAnteeeit's called "Fidelio" and the company developing it is called "Micros"
13:44.18she_dyedah third party
13:44.38she_dyedas in contracted a software firm
13:44.39AlexAnteeeit looked very much like dev-version but it was the stuff they are selling worldwide.
13:44.59she_dyedso thats why there was a migration
13:45.04she_dyedi see
13:45.11AlexAnteeethere are just a few companies developing software for hotels
13:45.57AlexAnteeeand i think the main-problem was they do not sell complete systems.
13:46.31AlexAnteeethey work on making theyr software run on unknown customers computers
13:46.56AlexAnteeeDunno why not selling the whole system.
13:47.19AlexAnteeewith defined hardware.
13:49.43she_dyedthat would make sense too if HW didnt upgrade so fast
13:50.02AlexAnteeeand there was only one guy who really had good knowledge in that system. the other 5 guys... hmm,... dont know. for looking good??
13:50.18she_dyedno to do the grunt work
13:50.24AlexAnteeeshe_dyed, those systems do not need latest hardware.
13:50.37AlexAnteeethey need to run as realiable as possible.
13:50.42she_dyedi  know but your next client would look at your specs and say
13:50.55AlexAnteeeno.
13:50.56she_dyedno iwant them to run faster so we bought these
13:51.11she_dyedeven tho you know so well it doesnt need all the horsepower
13:51.14AlexAnteeemost hotel-guys and managers dont have a real clue about comps
13:51.24she_dyedthats true lol
13:51.36AlexAnteeethey need them as a tool.
13:51.37she_dyedwhatever they have on their desk
13:51.43she_dyedis 'good enough'
13:52.01AlexAnteeeso I assume one could make really good money by selling really stable systems!
13:52.15she_dyedend-to-end solution
13:52.31AlexAnteeewhats that?
13:52.39she_dyedhw+SW
13:52.44AlexAnteeeend to end??
13:52.46she_dyedthe package like you said
13:52.52AlexAnteeeyep.
13:53.04AlexAnteeequite like apple does and has success with.
13:53.13she_dyed'we'll bring in everything, a turn-key solution'
13:53.21AlexAnteeeyes!
13:53.32Wizard:)
13:53.37Wizardsmells euros
13:53.51she_dyedah he has his first qt project
13:53.54she_dyedheh heh
13:53.56AlexAnteeesmells euros for years but has no money starting!
13:54.01she_dyeddamm
13:54.19she_dyedwhere's rich aunt when you need her
13:55.16AlexAnteeehas no rich aunt
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13:55.23AlexAnteeejust a poor one
13:55.32AlexAnteeeservus Elive_user98_en
13:55.56AlexAnteeewink mal, Elive_user98_en
13:55.59AlexAnteeeo/
13:56.13AlexAnteeeshe_dyed, see, germans are shy.
13:56.18AlexAnteee;)
13:57.13she_dyedheh
13:58.00AlexAnteeewell, i need to go out with my dog now.
13:58.06AlexAnteeesee you later!
13:58.11she_dyedlater
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14:08.51Eunuxwhen is elive stable release?
14:09.19she_dyedthe bug list, when its down to none i think
14:39.30kingdonshe_dyed: the bug list?
14:39.35kingdondown to zero?
14:39.46kingdon*contemplative
14:51.32she_dyedlol
14:51.52she_dyedin a sci fi world perhaps
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15:19.31Elive_user38_dehi all
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15:20.09Elive_user22_ithi guys
15:20.12Elive_user38_dehey ho
15:20.20Giovanni8bit;)
15:20.23Elive_user38_deWizard, o/
15:20.28Elive_user38_deshe_dyed, o/
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15:21.07Giovanni8bitumh
15:21.11Giovanni8bita little question
15:21.13Giovanni8bit:P
15:21.32Giovanni8bitfrom a 7 day elive user
15:21.34Giovanni8bit:D
15:22.32Giovanni8bitmm
15:22.34Giovanni8bit:(
15:22.49TaCsterwell im not sure i can help, but shoot
15:23.00Elive_user38_deGiovanni8bit, we are waiting for your question
15:23.11Giovanni8bitso..
15:23.23Giovanni8biti was trying to install smartcam_1.4.0_i386.deb
15:23.37Giovanni8biton my elive 1.9.56 unstable
15:24.18Giovanni8bitit's a software that, cominucating with a .sis installed on my nokia, turn my phone into a wireless webcam
15:24.40Giovanni8bitbut i have some problem with dependencies
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15:25.15Giovanni8bitlast night I've trying adding some repository on my synaptic configuration
15:25.36Giovanni8bitbut the result was a mass destructive update that destry my system :|
15:25.42Giovanni8bitehehee
15:25.47Giovanni8bitso
15:26.27Giovanni8bithow to resolve dependencies installing a .deb (tooking dependencies from backports ad exemple)???
15:27.24Giovanni8bitsome suggestions?
15:27.26Giovanni8bitany
15:27.28Giovanni8bit?
15:27.55Mermouydo you know about preference system in apt?
15:28.34Giovanni8bitapt-pinning=
15:28.36Giovanni8bit?
15:28.41Giovanni8biti'm reading about that
15:29.17Mermouyif you can read french here is an aexplanation but I'm sure you can find something similar in your language... http://forum.debian-fr.org/viewtopic.php?p=45199#p45199
15:29.31Giovanni8biti read french :)
15:30.03Mermouyjust an indication, I'm really not apt pro...
15:30.33Mermouygoing out for the dog come back in fex minutes...
15:31.55Giovanni8bitok
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16:12.43AlexAnteMachinahey ho
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16:37.04elmo40anyone use a remote desktop setup from linux to windows?
16:41.04AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, there is vnc for windows, too!
16:41.38she_dyeddamm agree
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16:46.29Mermouythere's also rdesktop and something like grdesktop?
16:46.54MermouyFor windows isn't it?
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16:52.21elmo40ya, rdesktop
16:52.54AlexAnteMachina??
17:23.04elmo40wow, check this out. http://feedjit.com/pro/feedjitpub/
17:23.09elmo40not many Linux clients!
17:24.21elmo40ok, who is from amsterdam.
17:24.23elmo40i saw that!
17:24.25elmo40;)
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18:20.59elmo40moo?
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20:44.00Elive_user21_enhey guys, where would i go to get extra modules for e17? specifically, the tiling module.
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20:47.30throdonshould be it the module menu, right click the desktop goto settings goto modules should be able to be added here
20:48.47Elive_user21_enthrodon, I don't see it.
20:49.39throdonthe right click settings then the module menu? or the tiling module
20:49.58Elive_user21_enthrodon, the tiling module is not listed in the module menu
20:52.46throdoncheck the gadget menu, i am unsure how to add it cuz i am new to elive my self and I have hacked it a little.
20:53.57Elive_user11_dehi friends n neibors
20:56.58Elive_user11_demy question: is wlan key wpa also working with wpa2 ?
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20:59.54Elive_user12_enalo
21:00.09Elive_user11_dehello friends n neibors
21:01.01Elive_user12_enhallo
21:01.26Elive_user11_dehi 12
21:01.34Elive_user12_enhow do you?
21:02.02Elive_user12_enwhere you are?
21:02.09Elive_user12_en11?
21:02.18Elive_user11_dethanx, and how are you
21:02.30Elive_user12_enyou do not speak german?
21:02.32Elive_user11_dede = germany
21:02.39Elive_user12_enalso
21:02.47Elive_user12_enwas gibt es?
21:03.17Elive_user11_deschon die neue 1.9.56 in betrieb?
21:03.28Elive_user12_en?
21:03.53Elive_user12_enich surfe gerade als tester hier
21:04.03Elive_user11_de11, hast du schon die neue elive 1.9.56 ?
21:04.26Elive_user11_dedas mach ich auch grad
21:04.31Elive_user12_enwie kriege es raus?
21:04.48Elive_user12_enich habe gerade von en live cd geladet
21:04.55Elive_user11_dehab ich auch
21:05.03Elive_user11_dewillst du installieren?
21:05.05Elive_user12_enaber es lauft noch nicht wie gewuenscht
21:05.24Elive_user11_dewo gibts problem?
21:06.00Elive_user12_enja erst mir der windows ist abgestuertzt(daher buin ich jetzt live cd
21:06.46Elive_user12_enund bei testen der elive nach add zufuegung faelt der firefox auch ab
21:07.30Elive_user12_enmeinst du jetzt in der fest platte fest installieren?
21:07.55Elive_user11_deich hab auch windows, aber teste alle elive versionen wenn sie neu erscheinen
21:08.23Elive_user11_deja fest installieren, aber zuvor solltest du windows reparieren
21:08.40Elive_user12_enich habe elive 1.9.44
21:09.00Elive_user12_en(unstable)
21:09.30Elive_user11_dedas ist schon alt
21:09.34Elive_user12_enich habe es vergeblich das versucht :(
21:09.50Elive_user12_enein xp
21:10.28Elive_user11_dehast du virenscanner?
21:10.31Elive_user12_enim prinzip gefaellt mir gut elive
21:10.44Elive_user12_enno
21:10.46Elive_user11_dejo, elive ist sehr fein
21:11.11Elive_user12_enist das beste von der live cd
21:11.22Elive_user11_dekann fast alles, hat ein design wie apple computer
21:11.26Elive_user12_enalles ander habe ich mehr problme
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21:11.36Elive_user12_envon neu ubuntu ,suse etc
21:11.37Elive_user38_ene
21:12.09Elive_user11_deich hab auch ubuntu, knoppix und kanotix
21:12.18Elive_user12_enund?
21:12.45Elive_user11_deubuntu installiert. läuft sehr gut seit 2 jahren
21:13.04Elive_user12_enmit welchen hast Du besser ergenisse oder erfahrungen gemacht
21:13.14Elive_user11_deubuntu 8.04 mit allen updates seither
21:13.35Elive_user12_ennun gibtubu 9.10
21:13.36Elive_user11_deläuft sehr gut und stabil
21:14.07Elive_user11_deweiss ich, hab ich auch cd davon, aber ubuntu 8.04 war damals LTS
21:14.14Elive_user12_enaber ist beschraenkt mit der codecs in der live version
21:14.35Elive_user12_enam beste gefaellt mir der Superubuntu
21:15.13Elive_user11_dewas ist superubuntu?
21:15.15Elive_user12_enaber mein alte live cd schafft es uner kaputte Xp win nicht mher
21:15.55Elive_user12_enist ein Ubuntu mit saemtliche multimedia Codecs sogar amsn wie diese elive
21:16.17Elive_user11_decd brennen mache ich mit mac oder mit ubuntu
21:16.23Elive_user11_denicht mehr mit win
21:16.49Elive_user12_ennun gibt ein ergaenzaende ubuntu9.10 in Linux intern zeitschrift
21:17.32Elive_user11_deich warte noch bis ich ubuntu 9.10 herunterlade
21:17.41Elive_user12_enmit ein antivirus
21:17.41chdrstoHi guys.
21:17.53Elive_user11_dehi chrdsto
21:18.21Elive_user12_enich denke daran diese zeitschrift zu kaufen
21:18.35Elive_user12_enerst um den xp win problem zu loesen
21:18.41Elive_user11_deich habe die c't
21:18.51Elive_user12_enist es gut?
21:19.12Elive_user11_dedeutsche zeitschrift, weiss nicht ob es die auch auf englisch gibt
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21:19.41Elive_user11_deaber ist sehr gut
21:19.53Elive_user11_dehi 14
21:20.02Elive_user12_enhat ein live cd
21:20.36Elive_user11_demanchmal gibts live-cd in dieser zeitschrift
21:21.15Elive_user12_enund was gebrauchst Du con der c't?
21:21.36Elive_user11_de2003 lag eine knoppix-cd in der c't, seitdem bin ich linux-fan
21:21.44Elive_user12_enahja
21:22.32Elive_user12_endiese knoppix sollte faehig um virus um nmit virus fertig zu werden ne?
21:23.34Elive_user11_deknoppix war die erste live-linux-cd die wirklich funktioniert hat
21:23.48Elive_user12_enahja
21:23.55Elive_user11_dedamals knoppix 3.1
21:24.07Elive_user11_deinzwischen gibt es 6.2
21:24.27Elive_user11_deich hab fast alle versionen dazwischen
21:24.42Elive_user12_enund was ist haupsaechlich alles was es kann?
21:25.06Elive_user11_deknoppix ist vor allem linux-demo
21:25.29Elive_user11_dezeigt was es alles für programme für linux gibt
21:26.58Elive_user11_defür produktiv-arbeit auf desktop oder laptop ist kanotix besser, oder ubuntu, oder pclinuxos
21:27.07Elive_user12_enin dieser linux internet  live cd bietet ausser Ubuntu 9.10 noch 1000 programme noch dafuer
21:27.35Elive_user11_deja. wenn du die alle testen willst, dann hast du viel viel arbeit
21:28.22Elive_user12_enjejej
21:28.45Elive_user12_enich setze auf Erfahrungen von andereuser auch
21:28.51Elive_user11_deaktuell gibt es über 200 aktive linux distributionen
21:29.06Elive_user12_enwie findest du der sabayon?
21:29.16Elive_user11_deauf distrowatch.org sind sie aufgelistet
21:29.33Elive_user11_desabayon habe ich noch nicht getestet
21:29.55Elive_user12_enund der suse?
21:30.05Elive_user12_enopen suse
21:30.35Elive_user11_desuse mag ich nicht. die will sofort installieren und hat keinen live-cd-betrieb
21:31.09Elive_user12_enin linin der PC LINUX doch
21:31.27Elive_user11_dewas auch noch gut ist: scientific linux
21:32.02Elive_user12_enaber weil laden der codec updatet `sich ganz wieder ca.900 mb
21:32.06Elive_user12_en:(
21:32.47Elive_user11_deich hab auch einen iMac, da laufen zwar alle Linuxe, aber ohne sound
21:32.56Elive_user12_enund alles diese programme kann man sich selber als live cd laden?
21:33.37Elive_user11_dekann man alle als live-cd laden
21:33.40Elive_user12_enaus distrowachts?
21:34.14Elive_user11_dedistrowatch sammelt die links dazu
21:37.02Elive_user12_enmal sehen wenn bei mir alles funktioniert werde ich surfen
21:37.10Elive_user11_deals antivirus-cd gibt es jetzt  disinfec't  
21:37.29Elive_user11_dezuvor hiess das knoppizillin
21:37.46Elive_user12_endas haupt problem ist das kein live cd schaft verbindung zu interne windows der computer
21:38.05Elive_user11_dedoch, das geht
21:38.45Elive_user11_dedu kannst mit live-linux auf windows-partitionen schreiben (aber vorsicht!)
21:38.46Elive_user12_enwie denn?
21:39.03Elive_user12_enah so
21:39.25Elive_user12_envon live cd koennte mal direct sogar elive installieren
21:39.33Elive_user11_dedu kannst unter windows mit   qemu   direkt linux von cd starten
21:39.57Elive_user11_dedann läuft linux als fenster in windows
21:40.21Elive_user12_enquemu?
21:40.29Elive_user11_deist aber nicht sehr gut. ich hab das ausprobiert und bin nicht froh geworden
21:40.54Elive_user11_deqemu heisst das. vier buchstaben
21:41.42Elive_user12_enwie kriege der disinfect't erst?
21:42.03Elive_user11_dewenn du zeit hast kannst du linux direkt von live-cd installieren
21:42.39Elive_user11_debesser ist, du installierst linux auf usb-stick
21:42.54keyraElive_user11_de: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
21:43.19Elive_user11_deda gibt es anleitung und menü auf der live-cd
21:44.01Elive_user11_dedanke für den link, keyra
21:44.34Elive_user12_eninteresant
21:47.03Elive_user11_dedisinfec't kannst du per google suchen,
21:47.19Elive_user11_deim heise-verlag
21:47.36Elive_user11_deist aber noch nicht sehr gut
21:48.32Elive_user11_deich habe das gerade auf einem alten laptop am laufen
21:48.43Elive_user12_enhm
21:49.07Elive_user12_enunter linux oder windows?
21:49.17Elive_user11_dedas enthält 3 virenscanner: avira, bitdefender und kaspersky
21:49.41Elive_user11_dedas ist eine umgebaute knoppix-cd
21:50.58Elive_user12_enaus der internet?
21:51.27Elive_user11_dekann man aus dem internet herunterladen und selber auf cd brennen
21:51.31Elive_user12_enlaesst sich brennen?
21:52.14Elive_user11_deergibt eine bootfähige cd
21:52.29Elive_user12_enwas haelst Du von avira antiviruspersonal firewall fuer linux?
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21:52.57Elive_user11_denoch nicht getestet
21:53.11Elive_user12_enunter der name .....
21:54.25Elive_user12_enantivirus_workstation-perstar.tar.gz solte sich im skrip von linux konfigurieren
21:55.00Elive_user11_denoch nicht getestet, mach ich aber wenn ich mal zeit hab
21:55.16Elive_user12_enich auch :)
21:56.15Elive_user12_ennun mit live cd habe ich keinen cdlauf fuer ein bootfähiges cd herzuerstellen
21:56.37Elive_user11_denein, mit live-cd geht das nicht
21:56.43Elive_user12_ensolange ich nicht windows zum laufe bringe
21:57.08Elive_user11_devielleicht kannst du die windows-partition verkleinern
21:57.15Elive_user12_enich dachte sogar darauf windows 7 ( auch unetr eine live cd zu laden
21:57.57Elive_user12_endafuer mus aber ein lauf fähiges xp win oder vista haben
21:58.03Elive_user11_dedu brauchst für elive etwa 20 MByte
21:58.27Elive_user11_depardon 20 GByte
21:58.28Elive_user12_enmit partitionen habe ich keine Ahnung
21:58.51Elive_user12_enausser automatic die Anweisungen folgen
21:59.05Elive_user11_deund eine SWAP-Partition von etwa 1 GByte
22:00.07Elive_user12_enaber wie macht amn das denn alle?
22:00.12Elive_user11_dewenn windows nicht funktioniert, musst du das mit gparted machen, das ist auf der elive-cd mit dabei
22:00.24Elive_user12_enahja
22:01.15Elive_user11_dedazu musst du elive mit der boot-option   noswap   starten
22:02.09Elive_user11_dedann machst du ein terminal-fenster auf und gibst dort ein   sudo gparted
22:02.23keyraElive_user11_de: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
22:03.51Elive_user12_enund dann?
22:04.01Elive_user11_deelpanel gibt es nicht mehr seit elive 1.9.52
22:05.01Elive_user11_degparted zeigt dir die partitionen grafisch an und du kannst sie verkleinern, vergrössern, verschieben, neue anlegen, löschen usw
22:05.44Elive_user11_deerstmal machst du ein backup wegen datenverlust
22:06.15Elive_user12_enok
22:07.49Elive_user11_deerst die windows-partition um 20 gbyte verkleinern und gleich ausführen lassen
22:07.58Elive_user12_enich habe auf der festplatte zwei windows
22:08.12Elive_user12_enda eine ging auch nicht mehr
22:08.40Elive_user11_dedann wirds bisschen komplizierter
22:08.58Elive_user11_dezwei windows= 2 Partitionen
22:09.08Elive_user12_enich denke in partition sich laesst sich das sehen wo was liegt nicht?
22:09.16Elive_user12_enum das zu loeschen
22:09.47Elive_user11_denein, mit gpartet ist das nicht sichtbar, höchstens indirekt
22:10.31Elive_user11_dedu musst wissen welche windows-partition du opfern kannst
22:10.52Elive_user11_dewelche defekt istt
22:11.14Elive_user12_endie am meiste byts hat
22:11.36Elive_user11_deweisst du wieviel?
22:11.59Elive_user12_enmehr als 20 giga denke ich
22:12.25Elive_user11_degut, dann kannst du die ganze partition löschen
22:12.46Elive_user11_deaber erst wenn du alle daten auf cd oder so gesichert hast
22:13.25Elive_user12_enauf cd zweife ich was ich was retten kan
22:13.25Elive_user11_dedann legst du eine swap-partition an mit 1 gbyte grösse
22:13.37Elive_user12_eneher auf usb stick
22:13.52keyraElive_user12_en: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
22:14.07Elive_user11_deja ist besser
22:14.47Elive_user12_en1.bacckup
22:15.00Elive_user12_en2.löschen
22:15.07Elive_user12_en3.swappart
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22:15.35Elive_user11_dedanach den ganzen rest als linux-partition
22:15.58Elive_user11_dehi AlexAnteMachina
22:16.03AlexAnteMachinaServus.
22:16.11AlexAnteMachinadu partitionierst also.
22:16.11AlexAnteMachinaaha.
22:17.06Elive_user11_deich versuche eliveuser12 zu erklären, wie er linux installieren kann
22:17.31AlexAnteMachinaach, Elive_user12_en hat ein livesystem laufen?
22:17.42Elive_user12_endanke schön eliveuser1
22:17.45Elive_user11_deer hat zwei windows-installationen auf der platte, davon iet eins defekt
22:18.05AlexAnteMachinazwei win-versionen.
22:18.06AlexAnteMachinaaha.
22:18.11Elive_user12_ennun beiden laufen nicht
22:18.12Elive_user11_derichtig
22:18.20Elive_user11_deeine läuft scheints noch
22:18.33AlexAnteMachinaein besonders schwerer fall von WinzigWeichitis.
22:18.44Elive_user11_dealso doch beide putt
22:19.05AlexAnteMachinana, wenn bei hinüber sind, dann wirds ja einfach.
22:19.09Elive_user12_enund lässt sich sogar nicht mit der bootdisk noch mal versuchen zu reparieren
22:19.19Elive_user12_enerkkent kein systemdisk
22:19.29AlexAnteMachinaalles plattbügeln und saubere neuinstallation
22:19.44Elive_user12_enweder von rettungdisk noch von livecd
22:19.56AlexAnteMachinaperfekt!
22:20.07AlexAnteMachinadann kanns ja nur noch besser werden.
22:20.21Elive_user11_deähem... kannst du mich ablösen, alex?
22:20.27AlexAnteMachinaweiss nich.
22:20.37Elive_user11_deich muss morgen um 4 uhr raus
22:20.43AlexAnteMachinaui
22:20.52AlexAnteMachinana dann hau dich mal hin
22:21.11Elive_user11_dedem eliveuser12 noch bisschen unterstützung liefern
22:21.14Elive_user12_enlässt Dich nich halten user11
22:21.37Elive_user12_enbisher habe ich alles verstanden
22:21.48Elive_user12_enund noch vielen Dank
22:21.54Elive_user11_deoki, ich muss dann schnellschnell heia
22:22.03AlexAnteMachinaschnellschlaf.
22:22.07AlexAnteMachina*gg*
22:22.07Elive_user12_enalles gute
22:22.15Elive_user11_demorgen nach WÜ
22:22.23Elive_user11_debyeee
22:22.26AlexAnteMachinaahoj
22:22.30Elive_user12_entschussssss
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