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02:57.28Gran_GerHi there!!! How can I recover the Virtual Desktops shelf?
03:06.17Gran_Gerso, Anyone knows how to recover the Virtual Desktops Shelf?
03:06.32Gran_Geror at least the one configured by default with Elive?
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03:38.03Elive_user68_esHi there!! Could anyone please tell me how to run an Script as root without the terminal?
03:38.17keyraElive_user68_es: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
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06:11.22elmo40Current Track: '2 M.Argerich, Chailly, RSO Berlin - Intermezzo, Adagio (Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky)'
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08:12.15MerMouYHi here!
08:13.53wasynyt_eeegood morning MerMouY
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10:42.24AlexAnteeehi all
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10:46.08AlexAnteeehi kulrd
10:46.36kulrdhi
10:47.31AlexAnteeeso what's up in the netherlands?
10:49.36kulrdkoud, koud, en niets meer
10:49.49AlexAnteeewhat?
10:50.01AlexAnteeesounds like "cold, cold and nothing else"
10:50.33kulrd:)
10:50.47AlexAnteeeam I right?
10:50.54kulrdcold, cold, and nothing more
10:50.59AlexAnteeeyep.
10:51.58AlexAnteeewhen I read it i can understand your language quite well.
10:52.02kulrdsorry but I'm a little busy ... ca
10:52.10AlexAnteeebye!
10:53.03kulrdMy native language is Polish:)
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10:53.09AlexAnteeelol
10:54.40kulrdis away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots
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16:16.36AlexAnteMachinahi all
16:17.42elmo40moo
16:20.15AlexAnteMachinaOh, hi elmo40
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16:41.18AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, dont moo at me as if I didnt know!
16:42.41elmo40oink?
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16:59.43elmo40!weather oshawa ontario
16:59.43elmo40damn bots...
16:59.46diabetikelmo40: The current temperature in Town, Whitby, Ontario is 1.4°C (11:30 AM EST on January 26, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1000.9 hPa (Rising).
16:59.57keyraelmo40: Tomorrow's Forecast: Hot and Dry! Ideal for burning liveCDs!!
17:03.23AlexAnteMachinawasynyt_eee, ping
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17:07.33MerMouY_ZinudHi there
17:09.57AlexAnteMachinahowdy, MerMouY_Zinud
17:10.39MerMouY_ZinudHi AlexAnteMachina
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17:18.08qwnsknightFor the elive installer, is there a doc that says what parts are automated?  (ie. I have a 10GB partition available for the install, but I do not want it to touch the other slices.)
17:20.44elmo40then dont use automated...
17:24.19AlexAnteMachinaYeah! A true word, brother elmo40 !
17:25.16qwnsknightGot it.  No Auto.
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21:32.46Guest63659Sorry to be a bother, but I'm having some major problems with elive and wondered if anyone could assist me?
21:32.52Guest63659I can't find any help in the forum
21:58.29WizardGuest63659: shoot
21:58.33Wizardhi all :)
21:59.25Guest63659hello :)
22:00.02LinuxNITWizard, here is our conversation so you can catch up
22:00.03LinuxNIThttp://pastebin.ca/1767149
22:00.07LinuxNITit was priv
22:00.26LinuxNITGuest63659, what is the error when trying to mount the ntfs parition?
22:01.24Guest63659NTFS signature is missing. Failed to mount '/dev/hda2': Invalid argument The device '/dev/hda2' doesn't have a valid NTFS. Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
22:01.47LinuxNITwhat was your command?
22:02.17Guest63659mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda2 /mnt/a
22:02.45Guest63659also mount -a
22:04.05Guest63659even the partition manager, on several live distros of various linux operating systems shows the disk as unallocated
22:04.13Guest63659actually, now it is showing both of my hard drives as unallocated
22:04.53LinuxNITdoes your hd have SMART technology?
22:05.23Guest63659I'm not certain.  the smaller HD is quite old (circa 2005) and the larger is from 2007
22:05.49LinuxNITinstall smartmontools
22:05.57Guest63659ok
22:06.29Guest63659it isn't in the repository, but I will find it from the net
22:06.39LinuxNITit is in the repo
22:06.42LinuxNIThang on
22:06.58LinuxNITsmartmontools - control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.
22:07.03LinuxNITthats the package name
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22:08.27Guest63659unfortunately, it isn't coming up
22:08.41Guest63659do I need to be under a certain section?
22:10.03LinuxNIT<LinuxNIT> http://www.captain.at/howto-linux-smartmontools-smartctl.php
22:10.04LinuxNIT<LinuxNIT> check your drives out
22:10.04LinuxNIT<LinuxNIT> from my meager knowledge... it does appear that the partition is screwed up (could be wrong i dunno)
22:10.04LinuxNIT<LinuxNIT> i have used a program in the past called testdisk (also in the repos) to recover old/corrupted paritions
22:10.04LinuxNIT<LinuxNIT> its been a long time though... i believe it supports ntfs
22:10.05Guest63659I found it on sourceforge
22:10.12LinuxNITsorry i was in the priv by accident
22:10.19LinuxNITapt-get update
22:11.15LinuxNITapt-get install smartmontools
22:12.21Guest63659done
22:13.18Guest63659when I type "smartmontools" in the terminal it says command not found
22:13.32Guest63659* Not starting S.M.A.R.T. daemon smartd, disabled via /etc/default/smartmontools
22:13.32keyraGuest63659: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
22:13.35LinuxNITread the link
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22:16.27Guest63659well
22:16.34Guest63659this testdisk program seems to be doing wonderful things
22:16.37LinuxNITdoes it have support
22:17.00LinuxNITit would be good to check the drive with smart if it is supported
22:17.06LinuxNITmakre the sure the drive is not dying
22:18.03Guest63659ok
22:18.10Guest63659I'll see if I can get smart to work
22:18.28LinuxNITthe link i posted above tells how to use it
22:19.52Guest63659bash: smartctl: command not found
22:19.59LinuxNITare you root?
22:19.59Guest63659i don't think it properly installed smartmontools
22:20.07LinuxNIToh try again
22:20.23Guest63659says it's already the newest version
22:20.25Guest63659and installed
22:20.40Guest63659bash: smartctl: command not found but when i run the command to start it, i get
22:20.46Guest63659command not found
22:21.12Guest63659ERROR: smartctl requires a device name as the final command-line argument.
22:21.13Guest63659ok
22:21.51Guest63659tried smartctl /dev/hda2 with no success
22:22.01LinuxNITdid you read the url yet?
22:22.06Guest63659yes
22:22.17Guest63659yes, it says to type smartctl
22:22.26LinuxNITwith arguments
22:22.26Guest63659-i
22:22.27Guest63659oops
22:22.27Guest63659yes
22:22.44Guest63659=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family:     Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 family Device Model:     Maxtor 6E040L0 Serial Number:    E1DL73YE Firmware Version: NAR61590 User Capacity:    41,110,142,976 bytes Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is:   7 ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 Local Time is:    Tue Jan 26 17:27:10 2010 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART
22:23.09Guest63659there we are
22:24.34Guest63659do you feel I should run the short or extended self-test routine?
22:26.12LinuxNITshort first
22:29.21Guest63659running
22:29.27Guest63659thank you again for your help
22:29.44LinuxNITyoure welcom
22:29.50Guest63659you all are brilliant
22:30.03Guest63659and this is the best linux distro I've ever used, if not one of the best OSs ever
22:31.19Guest63659ok
22:31.24Guest63659the output of the test is available
22:31.27Guest63659it's very long though
22:31.39Guest63659should I post it here?
22:31.44Guest63659i can try that pastebin service
22:31.58LinuxNITsure paste bin it
22:33.33Guest63659for some reason, it won't let me copy that much text from the terminal
22:33.37Guest63659or i'm doing it improperly
22:33.47keyraGuest63659: configurations of terminal in elpanel, of course :)
22:33.50Guest63659control-c doesn't work, nor control-shift-c
22:33.55Guest63659haha ok thatnks
22:34.04Guest63659well, i don't believe this version has an elpanel
22:34.08Guest63659i think it's been removed
22:34.09LinuxNIT`highlight the text then middle click to paste
22:35.07Guest63659but what do I click to copy?
22:35.19Guest63659it just keep pasting
22:35.28Guest63659oh
22:35.31Guest63659nvm
22:37.31Guest63659http://pastebin.ca/1767212
22:37.34Guest63659there we are
22:37.36Guest63659i'm an idiot
22:38.20Guest63659=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family:     Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 family Device Model:     Maxtor 6E040L0 Serial Number:    E1DL73YE Firmware Version: NAR61590 User Capacity:    41,110,142,976 bytes Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is:   7 ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0 Local Time is:    Tue Jan 26 17:42:43 2010 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART
22:38.23Guest63659and that again
22:38.58Guest63659and testdisk says the disk structure is fine
22:40.03Guest63659there is an option in smartdisk to "write partition table"
22:40.18Guest63659will this reconfigure the partition to work properly, or erase the partition?
22:40.47LinuxNIToption in smartdisk ?
22:40.54LinuxNITtestdisk or smartctl?
22:41.12Guest63659testdisk
22:41.42LinuxNITwell is the partition table one that it found while searching?
22:41.49Guest63659yes
22:42.00LinuxNITand does it show the files that you are supposed to have?
22:42.33Guest63659id doesn't mention any files, but now it shows where the partition starts and ends, which before it couldn't do
22:42.41Guest63659i selected yes to rewrite the table
22:42.49Guest63659and it says i need to reboot to see if it works
22:42.58LinuxNIToh
22:43.00LinuxNITok
22:43.22Guest63659maybe that will do the trick :)
22:43.27Guest63659I'll see
22:43.32Guest63659I realllllly appreciate your assistance
22:43.40Guest63659I'm going to cross my fingers and reboot
22:43.51LinuxNITwell i  hope my assistance will be useful
22:43.52LinuxNIT:)
22:43.55LinuxNITgood luck
22:43.56Guest63659me too
22:43.57Guest63659thanks!
22:44.01Guest63659thanks wizard!
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22:51.38Guest24970hello :)
22:51.43Guest24970everything worked wonderfully!
22:51.45Guest24970all my files are back
22:52.05MerMouY_Zinud:-D
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