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| 00:38.18 | MerMouY_Zinud | hey somebody awake here? |
| 00:38.34 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 00:38.51 | MerMouY_Zinud | Hi LinuxNIT |
| 00:39.00 | LinuxNIT | hi MerMouY_Zinud |
| 00:39.09 | MerMouY_Zinud | do you know a bit about Virtuaal Machine? |
| 00:39.16 | LinuxNIT | i use Vbox |
| 00:39.22 | LinuxNIT | what do you want to know |
| 00:39.29 | MerMouY_Zinud | is it easy? |
| 00:39.31 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 00:39.59 | MerMouY_Zinud | the point is that i have an old Cpu and simple core there's no problem? |
| 00:40.23 | LinuxNIT | what speed cpu and how much ram? |
| 00:40.54 | MerMouY_Zinud | it's a AMD 2600 and 1.5Go ram |
| 00:41.29 | MerMouY_Zinud | I heard about differences between simple core and double(or more) emulation? |
| 00:41.54 | LinuxNIT | what os are you going to try and run in vbox? |
| 00:42.14 | MerMouY_Zinud | But I rember to have done that one time with vmware it was slow but quite ok |
| 00:42.23 | MerMouY_Zinud | a debian based |
| 00:42.31 | MerMouY_Zinud | not 7 |
| 00:42.34 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 00:42.39 | LinuxNIT | i think youll be fine |
| 00:42.41 | MerMouY_Zinud | ;) |
| 00:42.47 | LinuxNIT | try it out |
| 00:42.48 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 00:42.49 | MerMouY_Zinud | vbox so? |
| 00:42.56 | MerMouY_Zinud | is it in repo? |
| 00:42.56 | LinuxNIT | its in the repos i think |
| 00:43.02 | MerMouY_Zinud | perfect! |
| 00:43.03 | LinuxNIT | virtual box |
| 00:43.44 | MerMouY_Zinud | virtualbox-ose? |
| 00:43.49 | LinuxNIT | if not the debs from sun install just fine |
| 00:43.52 | LinuxNIT | yes i think so |
| 00:45.04 | MerMouY_Zinud | there's also module but is already installed and guest-module but I imagine it's for in case of it's the guest os? |
| 00:45.53 | LinuxNIT | the guest modules/add ons are to be installed in the virtual machine |
| 00:45.56 | MerMouY_Zinud | what does mean the debian logo or not in synaptic? Opensource or not right? |
| 00:46.07 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep ok |
| 00:46.20 | LinuxNIT | elive has them installed so elive iso can run better in a virtual machine |
| 00:46.52 | LinuxNIT | but you do need the kernel modules |
| 00:47.29 | MerMouY_Zinud | corresponding to kernel... Of course |
| 00:50.39 | MerMouY_Zinud | oh you mean also the virtualbox-ose-module-2.6-686? because I have the virtualbox-ose-module-2.6.31-elive...? |
| 00:51.09 | MerMouY_Zinud | if I ask for that one it want me to downgrade to 2.6.29... |
| 00:51.30 | MerMouY_Zinud | what's that? kind of generic? |
| 00:52.04 | LinuxNIT | let me look |
| 00:52.44 | LinuxNIT | what do you have installed right now from virtual box? |
| 00:53.03 | MerMouY_Zinud | just curious, don't wanna be annoying for details... |
| 00:53.41 | LinuxNIT | ok well what you need to run it is modules... not guest-modules |
| 00:53.46 | MerMouY_Zinud | It' looks running right now it was just curiosity... |
| 00:53.59 | LinuxNIT | and you need the modules that match your kernel... uname -a |
| 00:54.10 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep that's ok it runs! |
| 00:54.16 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 00:54.17 | MerMouY_Zinud | thanks for advice |
| 00:54.20 | LinuxNIT | no problem |
| 00:55.01 | MerMouY_Zinud | just don't want to spend hours lost in what is the goos emulate machine forums post :) |
| 00:55.16 | MerMouY_Zinud | *good |
| 00:56.51 | MerMouY_Zinud | where does it create disks? |
| 00:57.35 | MerMouY_Zinud | oupps I found! |
| 00:58.13 | MerMouY_Zinud | ~/.virtualbox/HardDisks/ simply |
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| 01:12.39 | MerMouY_Zinud | Hmmm must I use special image or usual boot cd should work? |
| 01:13.35 | MerMouY_Zinud | cause a debian netinstall don't want to detect and mount cd or maybe it come from a bad iso? |
| 01:13.49 | keyra | MerMouY_Zinud: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 01:13.57 | MerMouY_Zinud | i try with another one..... Elive for example... |
| 01:18.38 | MerMouY_Zinud | Elive looks to rock! As usual... :) |
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| 01:23.21 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, want to install debian ? use debootstrap better :) |
| 01:23.29 | Thanatermesis | there's a lot of years that i don't install debian from cd's |
| 01:23.35 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 01:23.36 | MerMouY_Zinud | kind of chroot? |
| 01:23.48 | Thanatermesis | from the years where i was walking with my set of debian CD's instead to have internet :) |
| 01:23.50 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 01:23.53 | MerMouY_Zinud | but I want Sid one |
| 01:24.00 | Thanatermesis | debootstrap creates you a chroot dir with a VERY BASIC debian install |
| 01:24.14 | Thanatermesis | no problem, debootstrap can create you a sid one |
| 01:24.28 | keyra | Thanatermesis: If you have boot problems try to play with the init boot kernel parameters, specially with APM and ACPI parameters: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf Also try to boot from usb |
| 01:24.29 | MerMouY_Zinud | directly? perfect!! |
| 01:24.39 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 01:24.43 | MerMouY_Zinud | How can I not know that? |
| 01:24.46 | Thanatermesis | mmh, let me send you a small useful script for that |
| 01:24.53 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep |
| 01:25.02 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, because you ahve more than 20.000 packages available and you can't know everything :) |
| 01:25.33 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, read the script before to use it and to see what it does (so how to continue) |
| 01:25.46 | MerMouY_Zinud | ouuuf Stupid I'm not...:-D |
| 01:25.58 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep thanks |
| 01:25.59 | Thanatermesis | remember that this base chroot/debootstrap system is just a base one... so it doesn't include grub or kernel, you need ot install it, select which one you want and configure it :) |
| 01:26.23 | MerMouY_Zinud | I plan to use smxi script just after install |
| 01:26.40 | Thanatermesis | dont know what smxi is |
| 01:27.40 | MerMouY_Zinud | Don't know how to do that trick but: ***MerMouY_Zinud is happy to not be stupid once more |
| 01:27.57 | Thanatermesis | you mean /me ? |
| 01:28.03 | Thanatermesis | /me is happy |
| 01:28.30 | MerMouY_Zinud | smmxi is script that automagically upgrade your system, install graphic drivers and some useful stuff.. |
| 01:28.35 | MerMouY_Zinud | ok |
| 01:28.41 | MerMouY_Zinud | is happy too |
| 01:29.02 | MerMouY_Zinud | wget smxi.org/smxi.zip |
| 01:29.02 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i preffer to do it by myself, or to just write a own script |
| 01:29.10 | Thanatermesis | i have a script that is just apt-get install my-favorite-packages |
| 01:29.52 | Thanatermesis | you looks like to like design things... have you never played with edje ? |
| 01:30.45 | MerMouY_Zinud | yeah I was imaginating that you may have inserted some of their graphic driver code because I always found Elive best for that and whan I discovered smxi I was wow! It's as easy as Elive install process (almost not yet of course ;)) |
| 01:32.35 | MerMouY_Zinud | To say everything I have a "little" project here http://zinud.youm.org (TO LEARN NOT TO DO SOMETHING ESTABLISHED, i don't have ether knoledge nor shoulders...) |
| 01:32.46 | Thanatermesis | hehe not really, Elive has a lot of years including these things :) |
| 01:33.02 | MerMouY_Zinud | edje? It's kind of E library? |
| 01:33.33 | Thanatermesis | yes, that's the word, "kind" :) |
| 01:33.41 | Thanatermesis | its more like theming |
| 01:33.44 | Thanatermesis | e17 themes are edje files |
| 01:33.51 | MerMouY_Zinud | ok |
| 01:34.00 | Thanatermesis | edje is a... mmh, let me search the raster's descrition, is a lot better than mine :) |
| 01:34.10 | MerMouY_Zinud | but it request some coding knowledge isn't it? |
| 01:34.38 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.39 | Thanatermesis | not this one... |
| 01:34.47 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, some, not much, its pretty simple |
| 01:34.54 | MerMouY_Zinud | I saw also the emodule creation video but that's really another world for me |
| 01:34.57 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, is just like definitions of how an interface should act |
| 01:35.01 | Thanatermesis | simliar at a css |
| 01:35.15 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, yeah that's more programming |
| 01:35.32 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.01 | MerMouY_Zinud | hmmm |
| 01:36.43 | MerMouY_Zinud | basically uniquely the html+css part without the php part for easy image? |
| 01:37.08 | Thanatermesis | well, its different, but about difficulty just think on it like a CSS, but is a lot more powerful than this |
| 01:37.14 | Thanatermesis | css is a good approach |
| 01:37.36 | MerMouY_Zinud | I made very little bit of flash fe years ago... |
| 01:37.47 | MerMouY_Zinud | it'was fun |
| 01:38.10 | MerMouY_Zinud | thinking with hands |
| 01:38.12 | Thanatermesis | ah, this one |
| 01:38.16 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.19 | Thanatermesis | ^ MerMouY_Zinud |
| 01:39.00 | MerMouY_Zinud | ok so you have specific tools? |
| 01:39.14 | MerMouY_Zinud | at least to compress/compil |
| 01:39.29 | MerMouY_Zinud | in these formats* |
| 01:39.49 | Thanatermesis | you just need an editor :) |
| 01:39.53 | Thanatermesis | and images to use |
| 01:40.02 | MerMouY_Zinud | scite of course!? |
| 01:40.02 | Thanatermesis | then you can compile it with simply using edje_cc |
| 01:40.07 | Thanatermesis | edje_cc is the compiler of the .edj files |
| 01:40.11 | MerMouY_Zinud | ok |
| 01:40.24 | Thanatermesis | well, i have preference for other editor like vim... but that's just a preference matter :) |
| 01:41.08 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep where can I look toward? I saw a kind of pdf once about E themes but... |
| 01:41.20 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 01:41.24 | Thanatermesis | let me find you something |
| 01:41.34 | Thanatermesis | unfortunately the trac E's website dosnt load :/ |
| 01:42.22 | MerMouY_Zinud | like window$ |
| 01:42.30 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, you can check this for understand edje: http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/kazanaki/contrib/ch04.html |
| 01:42.32 | MerMouY_Zinud | never work when you need it |
| 01:42.37 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 01:42.48 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, not really... windows just never work.. never :) |
| 01:43.37 | MerMouY_Zinud | :-$ |
| 01:44.03 | MerMouY_Zinud | don't really understand what's this smiley means... |
| 01:44.20 | MerMouY_Zinud | but the page you gave doesn't load aswell |
| 01:44.46 | Thanatermesis | no ? it loads for me |
| 01:44.47 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep works without last adress page |
| 01:45.14 | Thanatermesis | aaah |
| 01:45.18 | Thanatermesis | this one, definition: |
| 01:45.21 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.22 | Thanatermesis | -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) |
| 01:45.31 | MerMouY_Zinud | no errata or anything I have to know before starting to read? |
| 01:45.52 | MerMouY_Zinud | sounds nice |
| 01:48.20 | Thanatermesis | well, i dont know much information about edje... and i have also found a more updated document but wth a lot more of text, maybe more hard to understand, so just read this one and you can get a good introduction of what edje is/can/does |
| 01:48.25 | MerMouY_Zinud | hmmm translate doesn't work on txt pages? Nice to know... |
| 01:48.44 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep |
| 01:49.54 | MerMouY_Zinud | hmm debootstrap already installed on elive? |
| 01:50.04 | Thanatermesis | i dont think.. apt-get install debootstrap |
| 01:50.15 | MerMouY_Zinud | or it come from dependence of something? |
| 01:50.26 | Thanatermesis | just a package to install |
| 01:50.29 | MerMouY_Zinud | because i have it already... :) |
| 01:50.35 | Thanatermesis | oh |
| 01:50.44 | MerMouY_Zinud | I just didn't notice.. |
| 01:51.06 | MerMouY_Zinud | should be live-magic dep... |
| 01:51.23 | MerMouY_Zinud | yep exact |
| 01:51.41 | Thanatermesis | live-magic ? |
| 01:52.14 | MerMouY_Zinud | live-helper & live-magic tools & gui to create debian based live cd "homemade" |
| 01:52.24 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 01:52.33 | MerMouY_Zinud | but a bit limited... |
| 01:52.40 | MerMouY_Zinud | specially the gui |
| 01:52.45 | Thanatermesis | MerMouY_Zinud, i dont know more documents about edje, mmmh, have you checked your firefox bookmarks ? |
| 01:52.59 | MerMouY_Zinud | it can help to create usb minimum bootable |
| 01:53.08 | MerMouY_Zinud | not of Elive of course ;) |
| 01:53.13 | keyra | MerMouY_Zinud: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 01:53.48 | MerMouY_Zinud | thanks keyra exactly what I missed! |
| 01:53.54 | MerMouY_Zinud | :) |
| 01:54.03 | keyra | MerMouY_Zinud: search in google! |
| 01:54.14 | MerMouY_Zinud | :D |
| 01:55.36 | MerMouY_Zinud | no firefox shortcut to man-page nice-reading? |
| 01:55.46 | MerMouY_Zinud | :D |
| 02:01.02 | Thanatermesis | man page ? |
| 02:01.16 | Thanatermesis | mmh... there's something fun about google :) |
| 02:01.26 | Thanatermesis | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=elive+usb+boot |
| 02:01.27 | MerMouY_Zinud | what do you use to read man page ? |
| 02:01.33 | MerMouY_Zinud | terminal? |
| 02:01.34 | Thanatermesis | terminal :), man foo |
| 02:01.40 | keyra | Thanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 02:01.54 | keyra | MerMouY_Zinud: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 02:02.28 | MerMouY_Zinud | That's the useful feature of konqueror i like : man page reading... hmmm so nice...:'( |
| 02:02.42 | keyra | MerMouY_Zinud: Konqueror is bloated! Do you want to turn Elive into a mess like the other Distros? Why using Elive then? |
| 02:02.54 | Thanatermesis | more nice than a terminal ? :) |
| 02:02.55 | MerMouY_Zinud | :D |
| 02:03.10 | MerMouY_Zinud | I never saw that sentence keyra! :) |
| 02:03.42 | MerMouY_Zinud | I agree 100% |
| 02:04.07 | MerMouY_Zinud | but I have to say that's a nice feature it has |
| 02:04.39 | MerMouY_Zinud | it should exist for sure specials apps for that hu? |
| 02:06.11 | MerMouY_Zinud | hmmm man2html seems used for that |
| 02:06.26 | MerMouY_Zinud | it should work with ffox... |
| 02:07.10 | MerMouY_Zinud | "Point your web browser at http://localhost/cgi-bin/man/man2html to read and |
| 02:07.10 | MerMouY_Zinud | search your manpages in the browser." |
| 02:07.25 | Thanatermesis | im sure that there's a lot of nice tools |
| 02:07.28 | MerMouY_Zinud | that sounds nice... :) |
| 02:07.41 | MerMouY_Zinud | simple |
| 02:08.55 | Thanatermesis | man2html - browse man pages in your web browser |
| 02:09.05 | MerMouY_Zinud | :) there's also gman ... |
| 02:09.36 | MerMouY_Zinud | should stop learning one day and start to use what he learned... |
| 02:09.37 | Thanatermesis | what's more fast than a terminal ? :) |
| 02:09.47 | Thanatermesis | and whats the reason to use another thing than terminal ? |
| 02:09.51 | keyra | Thanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 02:10.23 | MerMouY_Zinud | but when you need to read it entirely or almost it can be nice for eyes... :) and not so complicated... |
| 02:11.13 | MerMouY_Zinud | but don't waste your time with my explorations/lost |
| 02:11.56 | MerMouY_Zinud | I'm often like a child with a toy in hands, discovering and been impressed everytime... |
| 02:20.20 | MerMouY_Zinud | and I often use irc like a "second way" to do something: I do something , I have to learn more about somethat, i post that quickly on irc along with doing it my way... If somebody on irc know that "domain" he can maybe avoid me some time of "google learning" with just few, directs & easy words... You never know everything as we said ... |
| 02:21.34 | MerMouY_Zinud | thinking about twitter interesting applications and not the bllshit most of users do with... |
| 02:23.17 | MerMouY_Zinud | is elive xorg.conf Elive creation is simple command? |
| 02:23.35 | MerMouY_Zinud | still believing in chrismas father... |
| 02:25.07 | MerMouY_Zinud | ok man2html looks very nice but it need apache of course!!! :) |
| 02:25.18 | MerMouY_Zinud | but it's not a dep? |
| 02:25.33 | MerMouY_Zinud | must be useful alone so... |
| 02:26.05 | MerMouY_Zinud | thinking man man2html is a bit stupid but... |
| 02:28.34 | Thanatermesis | apache ? what about: firefox file:///home/foo... |
| 02:28.53 | Thanatermesis | thinks that "man foo" is more useful from terminal :) |
| 02:28.55 | Thanatermesis | man man |
| 02:29.07 | keyra | Thanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 02:29.40 | MerMouY_Zinud | you mean file:///thewaytothemanpage ? |
| 02:29.46 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:30.04 | MerMouY_Zinud | that start to be less & less nice...:) |
| 02:32.04 | MerMouY_Zinud | pff not so easy to find! ;) |
| 02:33.51 | MerMouY_Zinud | coming back to good old man man |
| 02:34.25 | MerMouY_Zinud | just surprised nothing really for that... |
| 02:37.13 | MerMouY_Zinud | "ManEdit : A GTK+-based Enhanced ManPage Editor and -Viewer" :) |
| 02:38.50 | MerMouY_Zinud | mouais more editor than nice & easy viewer |
| 02:39.51 | Thanatermesis | like i say, better a terminal ;) |
| 02:39.59 | Thanatermesis | what more is needed than a terminal ? |
| 02:39.59 | MerMouY_Zinud | for example has just loose 10 min looking for something I had |
| 02:40.06 | keyra | Thanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 02:40.07 | Thanatermesis | i have worked for years out of X |
| 02:40.33 | Thanatermesis | when started to play with linux, i have dont liked kde, gnome, or any other, so i have go out to the black console... |
| 02:40.41 | MerMouY_Zinud | yeah sure but I'm not really from that school ;) |
| 02:40.45 | Thanatermesis | then discovered and enlightened by enlightenment :) |
| 02:40.54 | MerMouY_Zinud | =-O |
| 02:41.15 | Thanatermesis | and then i have say "i need to make a better look to this in the future..." and returned to the console |
| 02:41.21 | Thanatermesis | some years after, i have made the first version of Elive |
| 02:41.25 | Thanatermesis | on these times, it was not called Elive |
| 02:41.34 | MerMouY_Zinud | my "linu mentor" was also until wmanager he's still on |
| 02:41.59 | Thanatermesis | that was the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ_zCnK4bMY |
| 02:42.22 | Thanatermesis | and some years after, this was the FIRST version of elive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGzQGJsZ1r8 |
| 02:42.27 | MerMouY_Zinud | :D start nice |
| 02:42.51 | MerMouY_Zinud | date? |
| 02:43.21 | Thanatermesis | long long time ago in a galaxy... |
| 02:43.23 | Thanatermesis | not sure, maybe 2002 |
| 02:43.38 | MerMouY_Zinud | hmm scumm nice choice to loose within dates ;) |
| 02:43.48 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:44.41 | MerMouY_Zinud | must top of the art at this time? |
| 02:45.02 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 02:45.08 | Thanatermesis | it was a personal version of elive, just for personal use |
| 02:45.20 | Thanatermesis | but then i have wnated to made it publically so other persons can benefit it |
| 02:45.23 | MerMouY_Zinud | is it already screencast? |
| 02:45.35 | MerMouY_Zinud | or filmed? |
| 02:45.39 | Thanatermesis | i have made that because i was not satisfied by the actual livecd systems all based in knoppix with similarities |
| 02:46.02 | Thanatermesis | but Elive needs to be more "generic" look and stuff, not only my personal taste |
| 02:46.08 | MerMouY_Zinud | E was already E? |
| 02:46.18 | Thanatermesis | e16 |
| 02:46.43 | MerMouY_Zinud | you looks to like dark futuristic themes? |
| 02:46.49 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:47.08 | MerMouY_Zinud | that's not the only video I see like that from you |
| 02:47.51 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:48.00 | MerMouY_Zinud | I like also dark themes maybe because I feel them easier to do |
| 02:48.22 | MerMouY_Zinud | as my perso website |
| 02:49.32 | MerMouY_Zinud | I recently had to remake the http://rwandaises.com design and I had to do something a bit colored but with clear reading and I not so happy of the result |
| 02:50.15 | MerMouY_Zinud | altrought I like my personal one hich I made at least two years ago... |
| 02:50.37 | MerMouY_Zinud | I'm not so easy with colours... |
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| 02:51.26 | MerMouY_Zinud | tezcatlipotix sound a bit dissicult for a public release... :) |
| 02:51.37 | MerMouY_Zinud | *ff |
| 02:54.25 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 02:54.33 | MerMouY_Zinud | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/02/when-linux-nerds-choose-mates-from.html if you have 5min funny reading to loose... |
| 02:55.12 | MerMouY_Zinud | it's my funny reading time just before sleeeeeep |
| 02:57.06 | Thanatermesis | 5 min ? too much |
| 02:57.46 | Thanatermesis | looks fun :) |
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| 02:59.23 | MerMouY_Zinud | keep it for later... |
| 03:00.21 | Thanatermesis | "Oh no, I have an operating system. It's called Facebook." |
| 03:00.22 | Thanatermesis | LOL |
| 03:01.07 | MerMouY_Zinud | I have lot of friends who still doesn't know the difference between adress bar and google search bar!! |
| 03:01.47 | MerMouY_Zinud | more serious but really nice: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/02/09/dealing-with-bugs-in-linux/ |
| 03:02.05 | Thanatermesis | feels frustrated trying to make Elive better then.. |
| 03:02.12 | MerMouY_Zinud | no really need to read all |
| 03:02.33 | MerMouY_Zinud | but looks usable to respond some complains sometimes... ;) |
| 03:02.36 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.37 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 03:02.56 | MerMouY_Zinud | wait the "PERVERT!" :-X |
| 03:05.57 | MerMouY_Zinud | berk: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/02/09/dealing-with-bugs-in-linux/ |
| 03:06.09 | MerMouY_Zinud | :-! |
| 03:10.26 | MerMouY_Zinud | does elive 3.0 planned to run on squeeze? |
| 03:11.51 | Thanatermesis | yes, of course |
| 03:12.03 | Thanatermesis | or newer |
| 03:14.40 | DammitJim | squeeze? |
| 03:15.25 | MerMouY_Zinud | testing debian |
| 03:21.12 | MerMouY_Zinud | have a good night dudes going for some scrubs ep and fall into sleep (I hope!) |
| 03:21.22 | MerMouY_Zinud | nice dreams dudes! |
| 03:21.52 | MerMouY_Zinud | I will dream about a new cpu/motherboard.... |
| 03:21.59 | MerMouY_Zinud | ciao |
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| 03:26.45 | DammitJim | dammit |
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| 04:02.41 | Elive_user24_es | bona noti |
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| 06:09.56 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: 2.0 released? |
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| 08:53.58 | majax | bonjour |
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| 10:05.56 | AlexAnteee | Wizard, o/ |
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| 14:54.14 | Elive_user37_es | hola estoy buscando ayuda |
| 14:54.29 | keyra | Elive_user37_es: que tal ? |
| 14:54.44 | Elive_user37_es | bien |
| 14:55.00 | Elive_user37_es | tienes algo de experiencia con elive__ |
| 14:56.57 | Elive_user37_es | hi i need some help with elive |
| 14:57.43 | Elive_user37_es | i have a toshiba laptop in elive 1.0 blender not run |
| 14:58.18 | Elive_user37_es | and in elive 1.9.51 cant see mpleyer mask i see all blak |
| 14:58.45 | Elive_user37_es | of course ecomorph is not suported |
| 14:58.59 | keyra | Elive_user37_es: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 14:59.28 | Elive_user37_es | i think my video card is not suported |
| 15:00.23 | Elive_user37_es | mi laptop is a pentium III 700 with 128 ram and agp card s3 8mb |
| 15:00.37 | keyra | Elive_user37_es: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 15:00.37 | Elive_user37_es | in elive 1.9.51 no sound |
| 15:01.23 | Elive_user37_es | hwere are you from keyra i am from argentina |
| 15:01.37 | keyra | Elive_user37_es: argentina! |
| 15:01.49 | Elive_user37_es | estamos ablando en ingles al pedo |
| 15:04.15 | Elive_user37_es | y el mio es bastante malo aprendi con subtitulados |
| 15:06.55 | Elive_user37_es | keyra si podes realmente necesito ayuda probe damn small linux, puppy, slitaz y elive los que mas me gustan son elive y sliutaz |
| 15:07.37 | Elive_user37_es | pero los que mas hardware reconocen y son mas compatibles son puppy y damn small linux |
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| 15:48.45 | MerMouY_Zinud | Hi there |
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| 15:51.51 | elmo40 | MerMouY_Zinud: hi |
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| 16:59.28 | Gran_Ger | Hi there! How Can I quit a daemon from the start? |
| 17:00.39 | Gran_Ger | I have a process that makes the computer slow. |
| 17:06.48 | OpenSpace | Gran_Ger, update-rc.d -f <yourdaemon> remove |
| 17:07.09 | OpenSpace | see update-rc.d manual |
| 17:09.08 | OpenSpace | 'info update-rc.d' |
| 17:09.25 | Gran_Ger | Ok. I guess there is a place where is stored the starting daemons. Where is this? |
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| 17:10.17 | OpenSpace | /etc/init.d |
| 17:10.45 | OpenSpace | but that's just one part of the story |
| 17:11.51 | Gran_Ger | hehehe, What do you mean? |
| 17:12.06 | OpenSpace | with update-rc.d you can create or delete various /etc/rc*.d scripts |
| 17:12.29 | OpenSpace | based on informations from scripts in /etc/init.d |
| 17:13.06 | OpenSpace | actual starting scripts are in /etc/rc*.d/ dirs |
| 17:14.48 | Gran_Ger | Ok. Let me explain my problem. I downloaded AVG, the .deb package from the AVG main page. |
| 17:15.23 | Gran_Ger | I supposed that there will be an GUI for using the program, but there isn't. |
| 17:16.04 | Gran_Ger | Then, there is a daemon callin avgscand that is working and slowing the pc |
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| 17:17.10 | Gran_Ger | I'll try to kill the process, and recently I start at nurse mode, using aptitude remove avgflx, the pc freezes |
| 17:18.22 | Gran_Ger | Then, I don't know what to do. The Ctrl+alt+f1 to start the console doesn't works, because the keyboard and the mouse are locked |
| 17:18.27 | OpenSpace | it is antivirus scanning daemon? |
| 17:19.07 | OpenSpace | just uninstall avg |
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| 17:21.07 | OpenSpace | or configure it to run only when needed if possible |
| 17:27.16 | OpenSpace | can you remove it from any package manager? |
| 17:27.44 | Gran_Ger | this is the problem. I was trying (as wrote before) to "uninstall" with aptitude, but there was frezee |
| 17:28.47 | Gran_Ger | And I don't know how to configure it, specially because the pc becomes really slow and can't use almost nothing |
| 17:32.03 | OpenSpace | can you remove your /etc/rc*.d/*avg* scripts? |
| 17:33.25 | Gran_Ger | that's why I ask where are the daemons, I'm gonna try to do that. First with the nurse mode. But If can't, then I'm gonna use a Live CD |
| 17:33.50 | OpenSpace | hehe again |
| 17:33.54 | OpenSpace | good luck |
| 17:35.28 | Gran_Ger | ok. Thanks OpenSpace, I'll be back |
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| 17:46.49 | elmo40 | sounds like fun... |
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| 17:51.54 | Ger_Gran | OpenSpace? |
| 17:53.02 | OpenSpace | Ger_Gran, what happened? |
| 17:54.04 | Ger_Gran | I'm a little bit lost, hehehehe. I'm now at the pc with the problem. Starting from a LiveCD |
| 17:54.21 | Ger_Gran | browsing the etc folder |
| 17:54.27 | Ger_Gran | there is a init.d folder |
| 17:54.35 | keyra | Ger_Gran: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils |
| 17:54.39 | OpenSpace | hey |
| 17:55.03 | OpenSpace | your disk shuuld be mounted in /mnt/... |
| 17:55.14 | Ger_Gran | I thought that init.d was a file not a directory |
| 17:55.47 | Ger_Gran | then, I access to init.d and found the avgd file, but looks like it is a link and there is broken |
| 17:56.29 | OpenSpace | yes, it's broken if original is now mounted elsewhere |
| 17:57.47 | OpenSpace | remove that link |
| 17:58.24 | OpenSpace | and remove all .../etc/rc*.d/*avgd scripts |
| 18:00.02 | Ger_Gran | Ok. I'll do. Give me a Minut |
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| 18:03.04 | Ger_Gran | parece que ya quedó eliminado el enlace |
| 18:03.22 | Ger_Gran | Sorry. Aparently, the link was delete |
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| 18:19.48 | MerMouY_Zinud | Hi |
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| 18:28.11 | Gran_Ger | OpenSpace, Thanks a lot! I finally remove the daemon. Now I can't uninstall the avg, but at least for now, the pc isn't as slow as it was |
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| 18:30.17 | Gran_Ger | bye bye |
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| 18:54.48 | HermitDragon | What is the best way to install an unicode font for use in openoffice? The font is packed for windows and mac. It is for knitting design. |
| 18:58.38 | AlexAnteMachina | guess you should ask in a openoffice forum or chat |
| 19:02.03 | HermitDragon | I suppose so. |
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| 19:31.41 | elmo40 | HermitDragon: look for the fonts directory. |
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| 19:32.01 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.03 | elmo40 | something like that |
| 19:32.46 | elmo40 | maybe /user/lib/X11 ? |
| 19:36.09 | Wizard | .fonts? |
| 19:36.21 | Wizard | hi! |
| 19:47.56 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Wizard |
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| 19:50.29 | AlexAnteMachina | hi watchwolf__ |
| 19:50.38 | watchwolf__ | AlexAnteMachina, hell |
| 19:50.44 | AlexAnteMachina | hell? |
| 19:50.46 | watchwolf__ | o |
| 19:50.51 | watchwolf__ | :D |
| 19:51.15 | AlexAnteMachina | Hell, o Hell.... you heartwarming Place. |
| 19:52.15 | watchwolf__ | hum |
| 19:52.31 | AlexAnteMachina | not only warming you heart. |
| 19:52.36 | AlexAnteMachina | damn hot. |
| 19:52.42 | watchwolf__ | heartwarming ? |
| 19:52.46 | AlexAnteMachina | heating up anyting |
| 19:52.58 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 19:56.56 | AlexAnteMachina | damn... I'm waiting for Mermouy to show up. |
| 19:57.22 | AlexAnteMachina | Registration at addicts.elivecd.org wont work. |
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| 19:58.41 | Elive_user28_es | hi all |
| 19:58.49 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Elive_user28_es |
| 19:59.06 | Elive_user28_es | i've got a problem with 1.9.60, when i am on livecd mode, the wireless works perfect! |
| 19:59.28 | Elive_user28_es | when i install, the internet connector doesnt show anything, so i cant connect : |
| 19:59.40 | Elive_user28_es | is a broadcom 4311 |
| 19:59.45 | Elive_user28_es | what could i do ? |
| 19:59.55 | AlexAnteMachina | humm,... trying latest dev-version? |
| 20:00.02 | Elive_user28_es | yep |
| 20:00.08 | Elive_user28_es | and with 1.9.57 |
| 20:00.22 | HermitDragon | elmo40: Fonts are in /user/share/fonts. that is ok. I can't seem to get the file I downloaded to be extracted to that place. |
| 20:00.32 | AlexAnteMachina | 1.9.61 is latest version |
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| 20:01.13 | DaRtHo | which change that ? |
| 20:01.25 | DaRtHo | i mean, i am sure that the same is gonna happen |
| 20:01.26 | DaRtHo | xD |
| 20:01.37 | AlexAnteMachina | DaRtHo, tell Thanatermesis about it. |
| 20:01.45 | AlexAnteMachina | or LinuxNIT. |
| 20:01.56 | DaRtHo | he is the netconnector creator right ? :p |
| 20:02.12 | AlexAnteMachina | LinuxNIT developed net-connector, yes. |
| 20:02.31 | DaRtHo | :D |
| 20:03.03 | DaRtHo | damn, how can i re-install that ? |
| 20:03.15 | DaRtHo | i mean the netconnector package is called like that ? xD |
| 20:04.08 | AlexAnteMachina | yes of course. |
| 20:04.13 | AlexAnteMachina | "net-connector" |
| 20:04.48 | AlexAnteMachina | its in the repos. |
| 20:07.15 | AlexAnteMachina | DaRtHo, but you should really tell Thanatermesis about that bug! |
| 20:08.31 | DaRtHo | yep |
| 20:08.35 | DaRtHo | i am trying to report it |
| 20:08.44 | DaRtHo | but is too dificult with this fuckin connection |
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| 20:10.08 | Elive_user79_en | hi guy! how can I change the keyboard layout? |
| 20:11.43 | AlexAnteMachina | settings-> settings-terminal-> language. |
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| 20:11.57 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 20:12.05 | AlexAnteMachina | aaargh.... |
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| 20:14.50 | DaRtHo | keyra, i love u damn bot :) |
| 20:15.02 | Elive_user79_en | ummm I found settings -> languages -> keyboard but this icon doesn't work :( |
| 20:15.04 | keyra | DaRtHo: I love you too :) |
| 20:15.08 | PupUserc9354f | hey guys is it true that elive will run on 64 ram? |
| 20:15.22 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 20:15.53 | PupUserc9354f | no |
| 20:15.59 | PupUserc9354f | im talking aobut 64mb ram |
| 20:16.13 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
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| 20:16.27 | DaRtHo | 64 bits* |
| 20:16.34 | PupUserc9354f | noooooo |
| 20:16.35 | DaRtHo | 64 ram ? |
| 20:16.41 | keyra | DaRtHo: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 20:16.46 | PupUserc9354f | im talking about 64mb of ram |
| 20:16.51 | DaRtHo | keyra, shut up hun xd |
| 20:16.54 | PupUserc9354f | not a 64-bit system |
| 20:17.03 | DaRtHo | damn |
| 20:17.05 | DaRtHo | read you later |
| 20:17.05 | keyra | DaRtHo: :-# |
| 20:17.13 | DaRtHo | AlexAnteMachina, thankx |
| 20:17.29 | PupUserc9354f | will it work ok on a 128 ram machine? |
| 20:17.43 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 20:18.08 | PupUserc9354f | i dont wanna use 8 gb ram |
| 20:18.13 | PupUserc9354f | i only have 128 |
| 20:18.17 | PupUserc9354f | MB |
| 20:18.28 | wasynyt_eee | good evening people |
| 20:18.52 | PupUserc9354f | plz any1? |
| 20:19.31 | wasynyt_eee | what is the problem PupUserc9354f |
| 20:19.48 | PupUserc9354f | elive will run on 64 ram |
| 20:19.50 | Thanatermesis | que bug DaRtHo ? |
| 20:19.52 | PupUserc9354f | ? |
| 20:19.57 | PupUserc9354f | or not |
| 20:20.04 | Elive_user79_en | doesn't exist settings-terminal :( |
| 20:20.18 | keyra | Elive_user79_en: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 20:20.26 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, old versions of Elive like previous than the version Gem works good with 128 of ram |
| 20:20.28 | wasynyt_eee | i would guess that it will run, but it wont be blazingly fast |
| 20:20.49 | DaRtHo | Thanatermesis, en pcs con broadcom, en livecd funciona la conexion wifi, cuando se instala, deja de funcionar, la interfaz desaparece |
| 20:20.52 | PupUserc9354f | how bout on 128 |
| 20:21.48 | DaRtHo | Thanatermesis, y otra cosa, he visto este repositorio http://elive.homogenica.com/ es confiable ? |
| 20:21.58 | Thanatermesis | DaRtHo, cual es el nombre de ese driver ? |
| 20:22.00 | Thanatermesis | bcm43 ? |
| 20:22.06 | DaRtHo | Thanatermesis, si |
| 20:22.11 | Thanatermesis | si, lo es |
| 20:22.17 | Thanatermesis | para isos |
| 20:22.17 | PupUserc9354f | hola |
| 20:22.20 | PupUserc9354f | qria saber |
| 20:22.24 | Elive_user79_en | keyra: sorry what means? configurations of terminal in e17 preferences |
| 20:22.24 | Thanatermesis | hola PupUserc9354f |
| 20:22.31 | Thanatermesis | DaRtHo, en que versión de Elive pasa eso ? |
| 20:22.31 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: que tal ? |
| 20:22.32 | PupUserc9354f | si va a correr elive en 64mb de ram |
| 20:22.45 | keyra | Elive_user79_en: np :) |
| 20:22.48 | DaRtHo | Thanatermesis, en 1.9.57 y 1.9.60 |
| 20:22.52 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, click in your background and search "preferences", then system and then the terminal configurations |
| 20:22.57 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, demasiado poco |
| 20:22.59 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 20:23.08 | PupUserc9354f | y q tal en 128 ram |
| 20:23.13 | keyra | Thanatermesis: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
| 20:23.20 | Thanatermesis | DaRtHo, mmh, no estoy seguro si eso está arreglado en la version nueva, en todo caso, vamos a probar |
| 20:23.27 | Elive_user79_en | keyra: I don-t have preference |
| 20:23.29 | Thanatermesis | DaRtHo, entra en #elive-install |
| 20:23.45 | Elive_user79_en | keyra: I have enlightenment and settings |
| 20:24.10 | PupUserc9354f | por favor alguien? |
| 20:24.16 | PupUserc9354f | 128 ram va a ir rapido? |
| 20:24.24 | Thanatermesis | DaRtHo, /j #elive-install |
| 20:24.39 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, settings = preferences |
| 20:24.46 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, rapido no |
| 20:25.01 | PupUserc9354f | no como en puppy? |
| 20:25.22 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: :) ok |
| 20:26.19 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: I already went here but the keyboards icon in the language settings doesnt work |
| 20:26.19 | PupUserc9354f | ? |
| 20:27.24 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, pupy creo que mas rapido |
| 20:27.35 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, which version of Elive ? |
| 20:28.09 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: the development version |
| 20:28.33 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: I found Terminal Configurator but there is not keyboard layout option |
| 20:28.47 | keyra | Elive_user79_en: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 20:29.53 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, keyboard layout is not on that, it is on the Languages section |
| 20:30.01 | Thanatermesis | if im not wrong |
| 20:30.09 | Thanatermesis | ignore keyra, is an auto-reply bot, not perfect :) |
| 20:30.24 | keyra | Thanatermesis: you think so? |
| 20:30.31 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: :) |
| 20:31.11 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: yes I found languages the icon keyboard but doesnt work, is it work for you? |
| 20:31.38 | Thanatermesis | mmh, let me try, in live mode or installed Elive_user79_en ? |
| 20:31.48 | Thanatermesis | and which language keyboard layout you select ? |
| 20:31.51 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: installed |
| 20:32.05 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: I have US layout |
| 20:32.13 | Thanatermesis | and you want ? |
| 20:32.16 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: but I have italian keyboard |
| 20:32.22 | Thanatermesis | ok, let me try... |
| 20:32.29 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: thanks |
| 20:33.41 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: when I said that the keyboard icon doesnt work, it means that I click on it and nothin appears |
| 20:34.20 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, in live mode, it launches me the application |
| 20:34.54 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: ummm thanks maybe I have to install something... strange |
| 20:36.54 | Thanatermesis | well, let me try on installed mode |
| 20:37.34 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, it doesn't request you a password ? |
| 20:37.55 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: no :( |
| 20:38.18 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: it asks me a password for the language icon |
| 20:39.00 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, yes, it asks you a password for this thing when you click on the icon, right ? |
| 20:39.23 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: yes |
| 20:39.42 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: but only for language configuration |
| 20:39.57 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: for keyboard no popup |
| 20:39.57 | Thanatermesis | strange, it has worked here |
| 20:40.43 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: do you know how launch the settings panel for the terminal, so I can see the error? |
| 20:40.57 | keyra | Elive_user79_en: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 20:40.59 | Thanatermesis | well, i know the command that this icon launches, let me find it... |
| 20:41.03 | Thanatermesis | keyra, shhhhh |
| 20:41.15 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: thanks |
| 20:41.50 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, what version of Elive is ? cat /etc/elive-version |
| 20:41.52 | Elive_user79_en | keyra: you are a nice bot :D |
| 20:42.06 | keyra | Elive_user79_en: me? |
| 20:42.23 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: 1.9.59 |
| 20:42.35 | Elive_user79_en | keyra: you :) |
| 20:43.12 | Thanatermesis | let me upgrade some packages there to see if there's something wrong... |
| 20:43.27 | Thanatermesis | dpkg -l | grep keyb |
| 20:43.32 | Thanatermesis | ii emodule-keyboard |
| 20:43.36 | Thanatermesis | ii keybconf |
| 20:43.42 | Thanatermesis | you have these two ones as "ii" ? |
| 20:44.00 | Elive_user79_en | yes |
| 20:44.16 | Elive_user79_en | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.28 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 20:44.46 | Elive_user79_en | ohh |
| 20:44.48 | Elive_user79_en | works |
| 20:44.58 | Thanatermesis | which thing ? |
| 20:44.59 | Elive_user79_en | keybconf fron terminal |
| 20:45.04 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 20:45.16 | Thanatermesis | but i dont understand why not works if you run it from the panel |
| 20:45.24 | Thanatermesis | im trying to found the cause of hte problem |
| 20:45.45 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, what date says for your version of Elive ? in /etc/elive-version ? |
| 20:45.50 | Thanatermesis | date-builded |
| 20:46.05 | Elive_user79_en | 2010-02-01 |
| 20:46.35 | Thanatermesis | good, i have a laptop with date of 2010-02-04 :) let me see what happens on it |
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| 20:47.31 | Thanatermesis | i dont understand |
| 20:47.33 | Thanatermesis | it works |
| 20:47.41 | Thanatermesis | e17 menu -> preferences -> language -> keyboard |
| 20:47.49 | Elive_user79_en | yes |
| 20:47.50 | Thanatermesis | and it popups something asking the root password |
| 20:47.57 | Thanatermesis | that doesn't happens to you ? |
| 20:48.01 | Elive_user79_en | no |
| 20:48.06 | Thanatermesis | hum... |
| 20:48.09 | Elive_user79_en | no popup for that icon |
| 20:48.15 | Thanatermesis | very strange |
| 20:48.21 | Thanatermesis | which version of the package emodule-keyboard you have ? |
| 20:48.26 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache policy emodule-keyboard |
| 20:48.42 | Elive_user79_en | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.50 | Thanatermesis | ok, last |
| 20:49.05 | Thanatermesis | let me build a new version of this pacakge with some debugging to see what does |
| 20:49.10 | PupUserc9354f | has any1 tried elive on 64 ram= |
| 20:49.12 | PupUserc9354f | ? |
| 20:49.13 | Elive_user79_en | ah |
| 20:49.23 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, try an old version of Elive |
| 20:49.23 | Elive_user79_en | I'm working on a virtual machine |
| 20:49.24 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 20:49.37 | Elive_user79_en | could be a problem? |
| 20:49.48 | Thanatermesis | i dont think |
| 20:50.21 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, run this command from user: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/keyboard/scripts/launcher.sh conf |
| 20:50.49 | Elive_user79_en | ok |
| 20:51.00 | Thanatermesis | from terminal |
| 20:51.02 | Thanatermesis | it does anything ? |
| 20:51.14 | keyra | Thanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 20:51.19 | Elive_user79_en | no |
| 20:51.31 | Elive_user79_en | no error |
| 20:51.35 | Elive_user79_en | no anything |
| 20:51.45 | Thanatermesis | which error says ? |
| 20:51.51 | Elive_user79_en | no error |
| 20:52.00 | Thanatermesis | ah |
| 20:52.05 | PupUserc9354f | shut the fuck up keyra |
| 20:52.08 | Thanatermesis | do you have any "keybconf" thing running ? |
| 20:52.10 | PupUserc9354f | thats not what im saying |
| 20:52.19 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: put your bad words in your ass! |
| 20:52.25 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, try an old version of Elive |
| 20:52.29 | Thanatermesis | lol keyra |
| 20:52.34 | Elive_user79_en | no |
| 20:52.44 | Elive_user79_en | only the e17 settings panel |
| 20:52.47 | Elive_user79_en | I kill it |
| 20:53.03 | Elive_user79_en | but nothing again |
| 20:53.30 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, add "set -x" in the second line of that file (script), then run it and you will have verbose messages, tell me the last line |
| 20:53.35 | Elive_user79_en | ohh |
| 20:53.46 | Thanatermesis | you add the parameter "conf" to it, right ? |
| 20:53.48 | Elive_user79_en | I made ps -aux | grep keyb |
| 20:53.55 | PupUserc9354f | u dont get anyshit |
| 20:53.58 | Elive_user79_en | and there is one process active |
| 20:54.01 | PupUserc9354f | u fugly bitch |
| 20:54.03 | Elive_user79_en | with keyb |
| 20:54.12 | Elive_user79_en | esu keybconf |
| 20:54.13 | PupUserc9354f | y do u keep saying the same thing |
| 20:54.15 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, a zoombie process ? |
| 20:54.26 | Elive_user79_en | but I cannot see the window |
| 20:54.27 | Thanatermesis | PupUserc9354f, keyra is a bot, ignore keyra |
| 20:54.32 | PupUserc9354f | im talking about RAM not 64-bit u retard |
| 20:54.34 | Elive_user79_en | R+ |
| 20:54.41 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, looks like a freezed/zombie process, see his pid and kill it |
| 20:54.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis: you think so? |
| 20:54.43 | PupUserc9354f | then can u help me? |
| 20:54.51 | PupUserc9354f | thanatermesis?= |
| 20:54.56 | keyra | PupUserc9354f: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 20:54.58 | Elive_user79_en | ok |
| 20:55.12 | PupUserc9354f | keyra swallows |
| 20:55.20 | Elive_user79_en | OK |
| 20:55.38 | Elive_user79_en | now it works the launcher from terminal |
| 20:56.09 | *** part/#elive PupUserc9354f (~PupUserc9@static-200-105-182-93.acelerate.net) |
| 20:56.14 | Thanatermesis | duh |
| 20:56.17 | Thanatermesis | pup* has exit |
| 20:56.20 | Thanatermesis | i have his iso :/ |
| 20:56.27 | Elive_user79_en | and it works also in the panel |
| 20:56.45 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user79_en, yes, looks like the error was the freezed process, bad bad |
| 20:56.58 | Elive_user79_en | Thanatermesis: thanks!!!!! |
| 20:57.32 | Thanatermesis | welcome :) |
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| 21:23.45 | DaRtHo | is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots |
| 21:31.00 | wasynyt_eee | good evening people |
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