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| 05:53.30 | elmo40 | moo? |
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| 06:50.14 | Elive_user8_es | hi |
| 06:50.17 | Elive_user8_es | i need help |
| 06:50.53 | Elive_user8_es | i have install this system on my laptop |
| 06:51.02 | Elive_user8_es | so audio doesn't work |
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| 07:25.14 | elmo40 | well, cant ask then leave AND learn, all at the same time |
| 07:25.20 | elmo40 | that bastard pm'd me... |
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| 09:21.38 | majax | Bonjour |
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| 09:44.56 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
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| 10:50.00 | Elive_user25_en | schuwl |
| 10:51.17 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 10:51.20 | AlexAnteMachina | what an idiot |
| 10:51.51 | AlexAnteMachina | wasynyt, did you read that? |
| 11:09.57 | AlexAnteMachina | Watchwolf, ping? |
| 11:13.21 | AlexAnteMachina | Watchwolf, wasnt it you working on ecomorph? |
| 11:13.35 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 11:16.21 | Wizard | czeÅÄ |
| 11:17.52 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Wizard |
| 11:21.27 | AlexAnteMachina | whats up, Wizard ? |
| 11:22.53 | Wizard | nah, i failed one class and passed another :P |
| 11:23.04 | Wizard | which means: end of exams \o/ |
| 11:25.38 | AlexAnteMachina | cool. |
| 11:26.01 | AlexAnteMachina | so your life became a little more calm |
| 11:26.59 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard, what os are you using? |
| 11:27.17 | Wizard | leopard |
| 11:27.28 | Wizard | and i'm waiting for morphos powerbook edition |
| 11:27.33 | AlexAnteMachina | Or, to make it more precise: what linux-distribution do you prefer? |
| 11:27.35 | Wizard | and i have xubuntu at work |
| 11:27.45 | Wizard | i like xubuntu very much |
| 11:28.00 | AlexAnteMachina | its got xfce, right? |
| 11:28.12 | Wizard | yes, that's the main reason i installed it |
| 11:28.30 | AlexAnteMachina | because of some special feature xfce offers? |
| 11:28.34 | Wizard | second reason is it has debian derivated repos |
| 11:28.45 | Wizard | AlexAnteMachina: nothing special, just ordinary, modern gui |
| 11:28.48 | keyra | Wizard: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 11:28.56 | Wizard | but i feel very comfortable in xfce |
| 11:29.04 | AlexAnteMachina | so why not using gnome or kde? |
| 11:29.17 | AlexAnteMachina | have you ever had a look a mint? |
| 11:29.24 | Wizard | no |
| 11:29.29 | AlexAnteMachina | its got a nice xfce-version! |
| 11:29.38 | AlexAnteMachina | linuxmint is really nice. |
| 11:29.46 | Wizard | actually i could replace xubuntu with debian sid and xfce on top :) |
| 11:29.52 | Wizard | or slackware or whatever |
| 11:30.04 | Wizard | thinks on installing slackware again :) |
| 11:30.08 | AlexAnteMachina | sounds like you really love xfce |
| 11:30.16 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 11:30.18 | Wizard | yes, kind of :) |
| 11:30.41 | AlexAnteMachina | yesterday i had a look at latest opensuse's liveCD. |
| 11:31.08 | Wizard | i like the way xfce's panel works, it's cde descendance and it's perfect stability |
| 11:31.16 | Wizard | and thunar is the best |
| 11:31.16 | Wizard | :D |
| 11:31.24 | AlexAnteMachina | Suse was the first linux-distro I used. |
| 11:31.54 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... thunar... elive comes with thunar, too. Ever heard of Elive? |
| 11:32.04 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 11:32.27 | Wizard | sure, i used it for long time |
| 11:32.30 | Wizard | :P |
| 11:32.37 | Wizard | in time when gem was released |
| 11:32.46 | AlexAnteMachina | When I started using linux I was impressed by how many settings it had. |
| 11:33.01 | AlexAnteMachina | really anything can be changed. |
| 11:34.10 | AlexAnteMachina | but when they came up with kde4 they lost it. |
| 11:34.37 | AlexAnteMachina | its not a handy, helpful tool anymore. |
| 11:34.48 | Wizard | yeah, that's why i dislike kde4 |
| 11:35.07 | AlexAnteMachina | Its more like science making kde4 do what you want it to. |
| 11:35.52 | AlexAnteMachina | and i also dont understand that splash-screen desktop thing. |
| 11:36.06 | AlexAnteMachina | neither in OSX nor in kde |
| 11:36.24 | Wizard | hmm, splash-screen? |
| 11:36.29 | AlexAnteMachina | yep. |
| 11:37.17 | AlexAnteMachina | that transparent layer one can put above the desktop. |
| 11:37.30 | AlexAnteMachina | Its for holding Gadgets. |
| 11:37.51 | AlexAnteMachina | but the moment its activated the desktop cant be used anymore. |
| 11:38.10 | AlexAnteMachina | so its a nice but useless thing. |
| 11:38.27 | AlexAnteMachina | eyecandy with no use. |
| 11:39.32 | AlexAnteMachina | Oh, and I also loved Amarok! |
| 11:39.47 | AlexAnteMachina | yes, its bloated, but its also very impressive. |
| 11:40.06 | AlexAnteMachina | but amarok 2 is a real pain. |
| 11:44.57 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard, is there a special reason you switched from elive to xubuntu? |
| 11:45.28 | Wizard | hmm, it wasn't switching |
| 11:45.57 | AlexAnteMachina | ?? |
| 11:46.52 | AlexAnteMachina | You've told you were using Gem. Now u are using xubuntu. So I assume you switched. Didnt you? |
| 11:47.57 | Wizard | yeah, i stopped using elive when my old notebook died |
| 11:48.12 | Wizard | and than i bought powerbook on auction, elive does not support ppc |
| 11:48.18 | Wizard | so i installed os x on it |
| 11:48.42 | Wizard | than i've got new pc at work, and i needed to set up an os quickly, so i've choosen xubuntu |
| 11:50.56 | AlexAnteMachina | lol... didnt that new pc come with a preinstalled windows? |
| 11:51.18 | Wizard | hmm, it came |
| 11:51.31 | Wizard | but windows is such unusable crap, especially if it comes to my work |
| 11:51.45 | keyra | Wizard: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems |
| 11:52.05 | AlexAnteMachina | java development isnt working well on windows? |
| 11:53.01 | AlexAnteMachina | I thought its no difference is used for java. |
| 11:53.11 | AlexAnteMachina | ups.... |
| 11:53.28 | AlexAnteMachina | I thought its no difference WHAT OS is used for java. |
| 11:59.32 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard, I need to leave now. |
| 11:59.42 | Wizard | ok |
| 11:59.47 | Wizard | have a nice day :) |
| 11:59.48 | AlexAnteMachina | Have to visit my grandmother in hospital |
| 11:59.51 | AlexAnteMachina | c u! |
| 11:59.59 | Wizard | greet her fro me |
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| 13:41.36 | majax | coin |
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| 15:18.48 | elmo40 | Wizard: i used to love xfce. |
| 15:18.51 | elmo40 | isnt it dead now? |
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| 16:57.30 | Wizard | elmo40: nope |
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| 17:49.20 | Wizard | boo! |
| 17:58.02 | elmo40 | Wizard: you sure? |
| 17:58.06 | elmo40 | there is new development? |
| 17:58.32 | Wizard | according to website and git activity - yes |
| 17:58.43 | elmo40 | interesting |
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| 17:58.49 | elmo40 | just no news about it, thats all |
| 17:59.25 | Wizard | elmo40: in comparison to kde and gnome xfce does not make 'revolutionary' changes |
| 17:59.42 | Wizard | just simple improvements, new plugins, performance patches.. |
| 18:00.14 | elmo40 | i stoped using it over 3 years ago |
| 18:00.19 | Wizard | it is not covered by excitement as other big projects |
| 18:00.21 | Wizard | hmm |
| 18:00.24 | elmo40 | xfld needs an update, then! |
| 18:00.36 | Wizard | bad move! |
| 18:00.44 | Wizard | xfce 4.6 rox |
| 18:01.40 | elmo40 | 4.6? oh, i am out of the loop |
| 18:02.25 | elmo40 | well, i herad about 4.2 |
| 18:02.29 | elmo40 | last used 3.x |
| 18:04.58 | elmo40 | i have 4.6.1 in the repo here. |
| 18:05.00 | elmo40 | will install it |
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| 18:14.20 | Wizard | :) |
| 18:14.37 | Wizard | 3.x is.. really outdated |
| 18:14.44 | Wizard | many things changed since then |
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| 18:19.49 | elmo40 | installed now |
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| 18:28.54 | elmo40 | Wizard: it looks nice |
| 18:36.14 | Wizard | :) |
| 18:36.34 | Wizard | install "murinha" gtk themes and oxygen icons ;) |
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| 18:45.02 | elmo40 | oxygen is already installed |
| 18:45.10 | elmo40 | murinha, i have to find it |
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| 18:47.55 | Elive_user62_en | hola |
| 18:48.00 | Elive_user62_en | =) |
| 18:48.09 | keyra | Elive_user62_en: que tal ? |
| 18:48.27 | Elive_user62_en | bn bn |
| 18:48.41 | Elive_user62_en | pregunta U.U |
| 18:48.57 | Elive_user62_en | como cambiar fondo de escritorio |
| 18:49.23 | Pacma | pues hay dos formas |
| 18:49.25 | Pacma | muy faciles |
| 18:49.47 | Pacma | una es clicando sobre la misma foto co nel segundo boton del raton y poner como papel tapiz |
| 18:49.57 | Pacma | y la otra en preferencias hay un apartado de fondo de pantalla |
| 18:50.35 | Elive_user62_en | wiki gracias |
| 18:52.12 | Elive_user62_en | gmb |
| 18:52.17 | Elive_user62_en | ups |
| 18:56.47 | Elive_user62_en | no me va el sonido :S |
| 18:56.56 | Elive_user62_en | pueden ayudarme |
| 18:57.04 | Pacma | abre el contro lde volumen por terminal alsamixer |
| 18:57.11 | Pacma | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.18 | keyra | Pacma: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 18:57.34 | Pacma | estas por live? |
| 18:57.46 | Elive_user62_en | si |
| 18:58.17 | Elive_user62_en | ya va mil gracias |
| 18:58.20 | Elive_user62_en | :D |
| 18:58.23 | Pacma | ok |
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| 19:18.38 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Hello world |
| 19:22.41 | elmo40 | Wizard: one thing that is the same with kde is the ctrl+F# to switch desktops |
| 19:22.47 | elmo40 | i prefer alt+F# |
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| 20:10.03 | PrinceAMD | hey LinuxNIT |
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| 20:15.31 | PrinceAMD | hey wasynyt |
| 20:45.49 | DaRtHo | i dont know why but, apt-get upgrade is not working, always says that is upgrading... damn xD |
| 20:46.03 | keyra | DaRtHo: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 20:46.21 | DaRtHo | >.< |
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| 21:19.37 | Elive_user57_en | como se llama el comando para activar sonido ? almixer ? |
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| 21:42.18 | Elive_user57_en | como poner windows y Elive en el mismo grub :S |
| 21:42.43 | Elive_user57_en | ? |
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| 21:49.17 | Elive_user13_en | como cambiar el relor de Elive |
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| 21:50.42 | Elive_user2_en | bonjour d'alsace |
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| 22:36.25 | elmo40 | DaRtHo: upgrading? |
| 22:36.29 | elmo40 | anything wrong with that? |
| 22:36.34 | DaRtHo | yep |
| 22:36.50 | elmo40 | explain. what is the exact phrase? (pastebin.ca) |
| 22:36.58 | DaRtHo | i cant install jahshaka and, always shows the same at therminal |
| 22:36.59 | DaRtHo | ok |
| 22:37.02 | DaRtHo | wait :P |
| 22:37.12 | keyra | DaRtHo: jahshaka! apt-get install it ;) it's maybe the only real .deb package of jahshaka... built entirely for a debian system |
| 22:37.16 | elmo40 | you did the 'update' first? |
| 22:37.26 | DaRtHo | elmo40, always :) |
| 22:37.34 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 22:40.04 | DaRtHo | damn urxvt |
| 22:40.11 | DaRtHo | how can i copy something from there ? hahaha |
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| 22:41.33 | elmo40 | highlight with left-clickj |
| 22:41.37 | elmo40 | paste with middle-button |
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| 22:42.00 | elmo40 | or try the Shift+Insert |
| 22:42.20 | DaRtHo | http://pastebin.ca/1804150 |
| 22:42.38 | DaRtHo | that is jahshaka problem |
| 22:43.27 | elmo40 | so it needs certain packages |
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| 22:43.49 | elmo40 | it is not possible since those other packages are not in Lenny |
| 22:43.56 | DaRtHo | damn |
| 22:43.56 | elmo40 | what version of Elice? |
| 22:44.03 | DaRtHo | 1.9.60 |
| 22:44.07 | elmo40 | hrmnm... |
| 22:46.08 | elmo40 | i dont even have that in my repo! |
| 22:47.36 | elmo40 | do you have the 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main' ? |
| 22:47.36 | DaRtHo | http://pastebin.ca/1804154 |
| 22:47.36 | DaRtHo | nop |
| 22:47.53 | DaRtHo | cuz elive have it doesn it ? |
| 22:48.48 | elmo40 | dont think so |
| 22:51.39 | elmo40 | DaRtHo: well? |
| 22:51.48 | elmo40 | paste me your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:51.52 | DaRtHo | wait |
| 22:51.56 | elmo40 | waiting... |
| 22:51.56 | DaRtHo | i am upgrading again xD |
| 22:52.38 | DaRtHo | elmo40, look the second paste bin, i upgrade and dist-upgrade an configures everything, but i put the command again and the same packages appears and configure again |
| 22:52.52 | keyra | DaRtHo: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 22:53.13 | elmo40 | never dist-upgrade while in X |
| 22:53.21 | elmo40 | i used to have issues |
| 22:53.35 | elmo40 | but then i went to terminal and did it, no problems since |
| 22:53.44 | DaRtHo | always do on elive and debian Sid and never have problems :P being carefull! xD |
| 22:53.49 | keyra | elmo40: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
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| 22:59.26 | DaRtHo | elmo40, it doesnt work :( |
| 22:59.40 | elmo40 | what doesnt work. |
| 22:59.43 | DaRtHo | i added debian-multimedia repository and the same thing :S |
| 22:59.57 | keyra | DaRtHo: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 23:00.05 | DaRtHo | xD |
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| 23:11.43 | elmo40 | DaRtHo: is there anything i can help with? |
| 23:12.09 | DaRtHo | nop, the fuckin jahshaka doesnt want to install |
| 23:12.19 | DaRtHo | and xD the dist-upgrade still not working :( |
| 23:12.23 | keyra | DaRtHo: jahshaka! apt-get install it ;) it's maybe the only real .deb package of jahshaka... built entirely for a debian system |
| 23:12.32 | DaRtHo | keyra i love u |
| 23:12.37 | keyra | DaRtHo: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 23:12.51 | keyra | DaRtHo: I love you too :) |
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