| 00:00.02 | Elive_user2_fr | ok |
| 00:00.07 | Elive_user2_fr | thk |
| 00:01.18 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2_fr, which version of Elive ? |
| 00:01.28 | Thanatermesis | cat /etc/elive-version |
| 00:01.55 | Elive_user2_fr | 1.8.8 |
| 00:02.14 | Thanatermesis | oh, that's the reason |
| 00:02.18 | Thanatermesis | too much old :) |
| 00:02.22 | Elive_user2_fr | but i update the installer |
| 00:02.27 | Thanatermesis | your installer-module code is deprecated |
| 00:02.34 | Thanatermesis | very old system, removed |
| 00:02.46 | Elive_user2_fr | ok |
| 00:02.46 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2_fr, just download a recent version of Elive development |
| 00:02.54 | Thanatermesis | also, it has a lot of improvements :) |
| 00:03.09 | Elive_user2_fr | thx Thanatermesis |
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| 00:03.27 | Thanatermesis | np |
| 00:03.28 | LinuxNIT | thanks for the rescue Thanatermesis |
| 00:03.30 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 00:03.35 | Elive_user2_fr | another question |
| 00:03.36 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 00:03.42 | Elive_user2_fr | if i can :) |
| 00:04.24 | Elive_user2_fr | when i want install that told me : you have not permission to mount sda1 |
| 00:04.56 | Elive_user2_fr | that's cause i have installe mandriva before? |
| 00:05.13 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 00:05.23 | Thanatermesis | which filesystem is ? |
| 00:05.45 | Elive_user2_fr | what would you say? |
| 00:05.53 | Elive_user2_fr | ext |
| 00:05.57 | Elive_user2_fr | no ntfs |
| 00:06.06 | Elive_user2_fr | i run mandriva 2010.1 |
| 00:06.06 | Thanatermesis | mmh, strange error |
| 00:06.16 | Thanatermesis | but i suppose that this error is not anymore in a recent version of Elive development |
| 00:06.20 | Thanatermesis | there's a lot of changes in the installer |
| 00:06.26 | Thanatermesis | and other things |
| 00:06.35 | Elive_user2_fr | ok |
| 00:06.41 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2_fr, try it with a recent version of Elive development and if you still having this same problem, ping me |
| 00:06.55 | Elive_user2_fr | thank you very much |
| 00:07.12 | yebyen | i'm trying to compile a kernel with reiser4 support |
| 00:07.13 | yebyen | still |
| 00:07.14 | Thanatermesis | diabetik, later tell orascic you can ping me there the next time that you enter in the channel |
| 00:07.15 | diabetik | Thanatermesis: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:07.33 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, Elive recent development versions includes reiser4 by default |
| 00:07.39 | Elive_user2_fr | i'll try it later (when i finished DL with my fast DSL connection (joke inside)) |
| 00:07.55 | Thanatermesis | ok Elive_user2_fr, good luck :) |
| 00:07.58 | LinuxNIT | Thanatermesis, couldnt yebyen just install the recent elive kernel? |
| 00:08.06 | LinuxNIT | in other words.. upgrade |
| 00:08.19 | yebyen | Thanatermesis: true, but sid requires a kernel that does not use sysfs |
| 00:08.32 | yebyen | so i'm pretty sure i have to compile it |
| 00:08.39 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT, yes, well, not sure about the upgrade... nurse mode includes the feature to install different Elive kernels, maybe his version don't has nurse mode so.. just use apt-get and edit grub |
| 00:08.41 | yebyen | debian sid kernels don't support reiser4 |
| 00:08.50 | Elive_user2_fr | thx byby |
| 00:08.53 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 00:09.12 | LinuxNIT | <yebyen> debian sid kernels don't support reiser4 <<< seems rather strange |
| 00:09.30 | yebyen | i lost my whole elive-skel in the process of upgrading to sid |
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| 00:09.42 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT, debian kernels donesnt support reiser4, just like linux kernel don't support it |
| 00:09.47 | yebyen | LinuxNIT: they're just debian standard kernels, don't have many patches off of mainline |
| 00:10.09 | yebyen | enough to break reiser4, i have to use a vanilla kernel source |
| 00:10.15 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, try to compile a "zen kernel", Elive will use it for the next versions |
| 00:10.30 | yebyen | zen kernel? |
| 00:10.35 | yebyen | i've never heard of that |
| 00:10.41 | Thanatermesis | they includes all the needed and useful patches as reiser4, tuxonice, etc |
| 00:10.43 | yebyen | i'm shooting for a xen kernel in a bit though |
| 00:10.50 | yebyen | cool |
| 00:10.59 | yebyen | will i lose suspend without tuxonice? |
| 00:11.03 | yebyen | hibernate already doesn't work for me |
| 00:11.15 | yebyen | unless something changed |
| 00:11.21 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i think that suspend is not related with tuxonice, tuxonice is only hibernation |
| 00:11.23 | yebyen | cafe americanoooo :D |
| 00:11.44 | yebyen | i'm using an elive kernel because i haven't got anything else booting yet |
| 00:11.55 | Thanatermesis | hibernate works pretty well on a recent version of Elive and i think that doesn't has relation with hardware (not like suspend that is very related to hardware) |
| 00:11.57 | yebyen | but i have this great functional sid install other than i can't prove it can still boot |
| 00:12.14 | yebyen | udev is a bitch |
| 00:12.25 | yebyen | xen clusters are phat |
| 00:16.17 | yebyen | so why doesn't elive have sid support? :D |
| 00:16.24 | yebyen | i think there is no elive-skel for sid |
| 00:16.38 | yebyen | what am i missing if i just port elive-skel to sid |
| 00:16.53 | yebyen | should be nothing, right... |
| 00:17.07 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 00:17.11 | Thanatermesis | Elive is not really ready for sid |
| 00:17.15 | Thanatermesis | even not for testing |
| 00:17.34 | Thanatermesis | by other side maybe you have luck upgrading to testing/sid, Elive should maintain their "needed" packages |
| 00:17.54 | Thanatermesis | maybe there's a wrong dependency that you can't upgrade to sid/testing, but like i say... is not meant for do this |
| 00:18.58 | yebyen | well i just finished the semister at RIT |
| 00:19.08 | yebyen | so i'm doing experimental things with my laptop because it doesn't matter if i fuck it up |
| 00:19.22 | keyra | yebyen: thanks... bot :) |
| 00:19.37 | yebyen | and besides, with the first partition of my SD card as elivecd 1.9.64 iso, |
| 00:19.52 | keyra | yebyen: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does. |
| 00:19.53 | yebyen | even if i fuck everything up (i'm that fucked up on my computer already) |
| 00:20.06 | yebyen | i can't boot it |
| 00:20.11 | yebyen | except for android and livecd |
| 00:20.12 | yebyen | :D |
| 00:20.32 | yebyen | elive is phat |
| 00:20.42 | Thanatermesis | 1.9.64 ? |
| 00:20.43 | yebyen | coffee, also good |
| 00:20.46 | yebyen | newest? |
| 00:20.48 | yebyen | isn't that it |
| 00:20.53 | yebyen | i mean |
| 00:20.53 | Thanatermesis | thinks that somebody is making new versions of Elive than the existing ones... |
| 00:20.57 | yebyen | nothing special about that release |
| 00:21.11 | yebyen | i was so high when i downloaded that iso file |
| 00:21.30 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, how that Elive is phat ? |
| 00:21.45 | Thanatermesis | the other day a guy has installed Elive development in a 128 Mb ram :) |
| 00:21.50 | yebyen | haha |
| 00:21.57 | Thanatermesis | the next version will be even more optimized for low ram |
| 00:21.59 | keyra | Thanatermesis: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 00:22.00 | yebyen | i'm using it with my eeepc 2G |
| 00:22.08 | yebyen | the latest release is much faster with the graphics |
| 00:22.12 | Thanatermesis | after a few tests, less than the 50 % of these 128 MB of RAM are used now :) |
| 00:22.12 | yebyen | no lag on itaskng |
| 00:22.26 | keyra | Thanatermesis: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 00:22.28 | yebyen | i installed it on the SD card though |
| 00:22.33 | yebyen | so i would have a little more breathing room |
| 00:22.37 | yebyen | for compilers, and to install sid |
| 00:22.38 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, i suppose that you use reiser4 with gzip compression for that SSD disk |
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| 00:22.47 | Thanatermesis | then you can fit Elive entirely on these 2 GB |
| 00:22.51 | yebyen | Thanatermesis: yeah, i gave up on keeping it under 2G though |
| 00:23.01 | yebyen | the SSD onboard storage is relegated to testing android |
| 00:23.05 | yebyen | which can live in under 500MB every time |
| 00:23.20 | yebyen | installer, installed, user storage |
| 00:23.29 | Thanatermesis | (tip in description) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMbRjnWLezM |
| 00:23.30 | yebyen | each need not be bigger than that |
| 00:25.10 | yebyen | what's this OpenGEU? |
| 00:25.42 | yebyen | i don't see the tip |
| 00:26.24 | Thanatermesis | is Elive with compiz on a asus eeepc 4g, using reiser4 with gzip compression then the system is only 1 gb and more fast |
| 00:26.39 | keyra | Thanatermesis: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 00:31.51 | yebyen | phat, i switched to lzo compression |
| 00:31.57 | yebyen | because i have 2.7gb to work with |
| 00:32.06 | yebyen | well, 2.4G |
| 00:34.00 | yebyen | i just want to see it boot again :( |
| 00:36.54 | Elive_user4_ru | zen still compiling .... |
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| 00:47.40 | Elive_user88_en | Hi, everyone! |
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| 01:15.24 | yebyen | hio |
| 01:15.43 | yebyen | byebye |
| 01:17.14 | elmo40 | http://xkcd.com/149/ oldie but a goodie |
| 01:17.47 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: what, someone is mimicking Elive? |
| 01:18.45 | yebyen | it must have been 1.9.62 |
| 01:18.49 | yebyen | i can't read good |
| 01:19.07 | yebyen | elive-codename: Gem+ (development) |
| 01:19.08 | yebyen | elive-version: 1.9.62 |
| 01:19.22 | keyra | yebyen: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 01:19.28 | yebyen | shh |
| 01:20.36 | yebyen | you don't ever want to compile a kernel on one of these eeepc 701's |
| 01:21.12 | yebyen | especially not the debian config's |
| 01:21.29 | yebyen | mad modules in this bizniz |
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| 01:47.55 | Elive_user73_it | hey Elive_user95_en what do you think about elive ? |
| 01:49.05 | Elive_user73_it | ...up |
| 01:49.19 | Elive_user73_it | ...ooookay..... |
| 01:49.27 | Elive_user73_it | bye to all |
| 02:28.16 | elmo40 | ok, going back to my cnc machine... ciao |
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| 04:09.08 | Elive_user86_en | tem al |
| 04:09.18 | Elive_user86_en | ai |
| 04:09.41 | Elive_user86_en | eiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiii |
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| 05:34.03 | LinuxNIT | apt, hi |
| 05:34.04 | apt | hello, linuxnit |
| 05:42.28 | LinuxNIT | apt hi |
| 05:42.29 | apt | hello, linuxnit |
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| 07:19.52 | Wizzir | hi |
| 07:35.38 | yebyen | hio |
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| 11:05.10 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 11:05.28 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizard, i got a question concerning programming |
| 11:09.38 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, ? |
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| 11:20.21 | Wizzir | ? |
| 11:21.37 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, I guess you are Wizard in disguise. |
| 11:23.22 | Wizzir | yup |
| 11:25.20 | AlexAnteMachina | cool |
| 11:26.24 | AlexAnteMachina | well, Wizzir... I'm looking for a Solution to grab one Application's Output and use it for another App's Input. |
| 11:27.29 | AlexAnteMachina | And it souldnt be some static thing. |
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| 11:46.45 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, any idea? |
| 11:50.38 | Wizzir | hmm just use > |
| 11:50.43 | Wizzir | eh | |
| 11:51.10 | Wizzir | of course if those apps read console |
| 11:51.37 | Wizzir | like tail file | grep something |
| 11:53.54 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, seems like we have a little mistaking here |
| 11:55.05 | AlexAnteMachina | Do you know dasher? |
| 11:55.51 | Wizzir | no |
| 11:56.21 | AlexAnteMachina | okay... it's a software for disabled people to creat text without using a keyboard. |
| 11:58.29 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, if you watch this video you'll instantly understand the way it works. |
| 11:58.32 | AlexAnteMachina | http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/movies/EyeDasher.4800.mpg |
| 12:00.54 | AlexAnteMachina | Well, this app helps creating Text which then appears in the upper Field. |
| 12:01.10 | AlexAnteMachina | Thats quite nice. |
| 12:01.28 | AlexAnteMachina | Even for writing email or letters |
| 12:01.52 | AlexAnteMachina | One can save the text and copy it to the appropriate Application. |
| 12:02.56 | AlexAnteMachina | But if one wants to use something like x-chat or any instant-messaging software it becomes a pain. |
| 12:04.18 | AlexAnteMachina | In that case it would be great having some tool grabbing dasher's output and redirect it to some other app. |
| 12:05.34 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, do you know of any tool that could handle this? |
| 12:08.40 | Wizzir | ah, in that case, maybe somebody have written xim plugin for dasher |
| 12:08.53 | Wizzir | or maybe it supports it already, but you have to configure it |
| 12:09.36 | AlexAnteMachina | xim? |
| 12:20.16 | AlexAnteMachina | Wizzir, I only know xim as some xbox software. |
| 12:31.29 | Wizzir | x input method |
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| 17:53.16 | Gran_Ger | Hi there!!! Need Help, I lost the right resolution of my screen |
| 17:53.29 | Gran_Ger | How can I restart it? |
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| 17:58.03 | alias_dubs | Gran_Ger, Configuration Panel > Screen > Resolution |
| 17:58.52 | Gran_Ger | alias_dubs I saw there, but the options of the configuration r not the right one for my screen |
| 17:59.14 | alias_dubs | How did you "loose" it? |
| 17:59.54 | alias_dubs | something wrong with the driver maybe? |
| 18:00.50 | Gran_Ger | I don't know exactly How I lost it. The last thing I did was install ies4linux |
| 18:01.20 | Gran_Ger | What I did I mean, but this computer r in a Cyber-cafe |
| 18:01.43 | Gran_Ger | Then I don't know if the last user did something wrong. |
| 18:07.53 | elmo40 | cybercafe computer? |
| 18:07.57 | elmo40 | it lost the resolution? |
| 18:08.04 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.05 | elmo40 | check that |
| 18:08.15 | elmo40 | oh, gone... lol |
| 18:08.27 | elmo40 | i really need to check the list before i respond to people. |
| 18:09.06 | alias_dubs | anyway it's a cybercafe use elive ;) |
| 18:09.11 | alias_dubs | *nice |
| 18:10.29 | elmo40 | though there were problems. not nice |
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| 18:13.33 | alias_dubs | shouldn't happen unless they have a root access |
| 18:15.40 | elmo40 | true |
| 18:15.51 | elmo40 | or they changed hardware |
| 18:16.21 | alias_dubs | yep |
| 18:18.13 | elmo40 | wow, just checking the wiki for DDR ram. |
| 18:18.29 | elmo40 | voltages are dropping a lot. all new laptops should be using ddr3! |
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| 18:18.39 | elmo40 | ddr1, 2.5V |
| 18:18.44 | elmo40 | ddr2, 1.8V |
| 18:18.48 | elmo40 | ddr3, 1.5V |
| 18:19.30 | Gran_Ger | Hi, I'm still with the problem of the X |
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| 18:20.11 | alias_dubs | Gran_Ger, <elmo40> /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:20.11 | alias_dubs | <elmo40> check that |
| 18:20.11 | alias_dubs | <elmo40> oh, gone... lol |
| 18:20.11 | alias_dubs | <elmo40> i really need to check the list before i respond to people. |
| 18:20.12 | Gran_Ger | The screen resolution doesn't have the right option for me. I changed the xorg.conf file |
| 18:20.29 | Gran_Ger | I guess. |
| 18:20.56 | Gran_Ger | I'll pastebin this. |
| 18:21.15 | alias_dubs | you should have a backup file of your xorg.conf |
| 18:21.27 | alias_dubs | at different dates |
| 18:21.30 | elmo40 | especially if you apt-get updated. it usually makes a backup |
| 18:21.55 | alias_dubs | I have to go |
| 18:21.58 | alias_dubs | good luck |
| 18:22.05 | alias_dubs | \leave |
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| 18:22.35 | elmo40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.36 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 18:23.53 | Gran_Ger | well, as I said before, all the xorg.conf files has the same options |
| 18:24.02 | Gran_Ger | there is nothing diferent. |
| 18:24.16 | Gran_Ger | here is my xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.com/Upn48baJ |
| 18:24.56 | Gran_Ger | I change the Section Screen, specifically the DefaultDepth and Subsection |
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| 18:28.55 | Gran_Ger | Any Ideas? |
| 18:38.19 | elmo40 | anyone have some 512 sticks of PC-133 they want to sell me? I have all three of my memory slots full of 128. Need More! ;) |
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| 18:38.59 | elmo40 | where did he go now? >_< |
| 18:39.11 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Hello world |
| 18:39.16 | elmo40 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc: |
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| 18:41.06 | Gran_Ger | Hi, I'm really stuck. I tried changing the xorg.conf file |
| 18:41.17 | Gran_Ger | I tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:41.33 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Gran_Ger, What that for? |
| 18:41.34 | Gran_Ger | but can't restart the screen resolution |
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| 18:42.04 | Gran_Ger | DronAn[By]_eeepc. Because I lost the resolution of my screen. |
| 18:42.10 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Have you broke it? |
| 18:42.16 | elmo40 | Gran_Ger: i take it you are on this machine right now? |
| 18:42.21 | elmo40 | always leaving... returning... |
| 18:42.27 | Gran_Ger | yep, that's right |
| 18:42.37 | Gran_Ger | I'm at the computer with the problem |
| 18:42.43 | elmo40 | well, to save some agrevation for me... use irssi + screen ;) |
| 18:43.05 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Start Elive on Reparation mode and before startx chose repair Xorg |
| 18:43.15 | Gran_Ger | I did |
| 18:43.21 | elmo40 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc: his xorg.conf is messed. too small |
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| 18:43.49 | Gran_Ger | elmo40. I don't Understand about irssi + screen. What do you mean? |
| 18:44.09 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | Khm But Reparation mode must backup old and make new one |
| 18:44.09 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | khm |
| 18:44.49 | elmo40 | http://pastebin.ca/1817616 |
| 18:44.52 | elmo40 | that is mine |
| 18:44.54 | elmo40 | with nVidia card |
| 18:44.55 | Gran_Ger | That's what It does, But don't "autodect" the right configuration |
| 18:45.41 | elmo40 | Gran_Ger: to prevent yourself from going offline everytime you close X and restart it, open a terminal, apt-get install irssi screen, what all that is done from normal user type: screen |
| 18:45.56 | keyra | elmo40: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 18:45.58 | elmo40 | then type irssi -n Gran_Ger -c irc.freenode.net |
| 18:46.03 | elmo40 | then join the #elive |
| 18:46.24 | elmo40 | when X closes dont just exit the program, just close the window. Irssi will still run inside the 'screen' session. |
| 18:46.44 | elmo40 | when X restarts open a new terminal and type: screen -r |
| 18:46.49 | elmo40 | and it will resume where you left off |
| 18:46.55 | elmo40 | irssi is nice, you will likeit |
| 18:47.20 | elmo40 | sounds like a lot of steps, but once you get screen and irssi installed it is a simple 2 steps. |
| 18:48.02 | Gran_Ger | Ok elmo40. I'll do. |
| 18:49.34 | Gran_Ger | But, If I have to restart the computer, I still had the xchat? |
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| 18:51.29 | Gran_Ger_ | well, looks like I'm here |
| 18:51.59 | Gran_Ger_ | Well. I'm just at a terminal instance |
| 18:52.48 | Gran_Ger_ | I'll back |
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| 18:57.07 | Gran_Ger | Well, this is really frustrating |
| 18:57.32 | Wizard | ? |
| 18:57.36 | Wizard | what is frustrating? |
| 18:58.00 | Gran_Ger | Can't configure the screen resolution at the right way. |
| 18:58.27 | Gran_Ger | after been lost it |
| 18:58.45 | Pacma | is back (gone 244:02:29) |
| 19:00.03 | elmo40 | Gran_Ger: if you restart why go back to xchat? |
| 19:00.13 | elmo40 | once you try irssi you will never go back ;) |
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| 19:28.29 | alex___ | well..... |
| 19:29.02 | alex___ | i really wonder why elmo40 is so much in love with irssi |
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| 19:29.41 | alex___ | cant see any benefit |
| 19:30.23 | alex___ | anyway.... gotta go... |
| 19:31.30 | Gran_Ger | Something really weird has happen to me. With the PC that is with the wrong resolution, I restart with the elive cd |
| 19:32.04 | Gran_Ger | thinking that the right configuration could be "autodetected", but don't |
| 19:32.16 | Gran_Ger | instead this, I have the wrong resolution. |
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| 19:33.06 | yebyen | hey |
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| 19:36.50 | DronAn[BY]_eeepc | yebyen, |
| 19:42.26 | yebyen | DronAn[BY]_eeepc: sup |
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| 21:07.49 | xorios | hi |
| 21:08.44 | xorios | I have seen on the blog that the new stable version 2.0 will be released very soon |
| 21:12.04 | alias_dubs | hi |
| 21:12.21 | alias_dubs | yep i saw that too ;) |
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| 21:18.23 | wasynyt | good evening everyone |
| 21:18.28 | alias_dubs | hit |
| 21:18.30 | alias_dubs | hi |
| 21:20.35 | wasynyt | how are you doing alias_dubs |
| 21:20.58 | alias_dubs | i'm doing fine and u? |
| 21:24.16 | wasynyt | doig well too |
| 21:24.18 | wasynyt | :D |
| 21:46.45 | xorios | does anyone know if this next version will be based on Debian Testing? |
| 21:47.00 | keyra | xorios: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 21:47.39 | xorios | keyra, ? |
| 21:47.51 | xorios | because in the FAQ it is said "fter the next stable comes out, the next development versions will use Debian Testing " |
| 21:47.58 | xorios | *After |
| 21:48.04 | evryanz | xorios: keyra is a bot |
| 21:48.18 | keyra | evryanz: you think so? |
| 21:48.31 | evryanz | u.u |
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| 21:52.17 | alias_dubs | xorios, at least I hope so, would be nice to have up to date program |
| 21:53.14 | alias_dubs | I don't more about it but it they say so in the FAQ... |
| 21:53.39 | xorios | alias_dubs, I agree |
| 21:55.24 | alias_dubs | I mean for most programs I don't care but some of them are really in an old version (lacking stability or functionnalities) |
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| 22:24.54 | AlexAnteMachina | hey PrinceAMD |
| 22:29.00 | wasynyt | good evening AlexAnteMachina |
| 22:29.21 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 22:29.46 | wasynyt | how are you doing AlexAnteMachina |
| 22:30.00 | AlexAnteMachina | im fine |
| 22:32.12 | AlexAnteMachina | but tired |
| 22:32.24 | AlexAnteMachina | so i will go to bed |
| 22:32.28 | wasynyt | what have you been up to? |
| 22:32.36 | wasynyt | should go to bed as well |
| 22:34.37 | AlexAnteMachina | i was trying to find serious information about pro/cons amd vs. intel |
| 22:34.52 | wasynyt | that is really hard |
| 22:34.58 | AlexAnteMachina | yep. |
| 22:35.26 | AlexAnteMachina | lots of shit written in gamer's forums comes up when asking google |
| 22:35.40 | wasynyt | i guess the biggest benefit for amd is that it can provide a one-shop solution |
| 22:35.48 | wasynyt | with a decent performance |
| 22:35.56 | AlexAnteMachina | huh??? |
| 22:36.07 | AlexAnteMachina | one-shop solution??? |
| 22:36.23 | wasynyt | all the system components come from one manufacturer |
| 22:36.37 | AlexAnteMachina | oh! |
| 22:36.40 | wasynyt | some times you might want to build machines like that |
| 22:36.55 | AlexAnteMachina | i didnt know there are amd-mainboards |
| 22:37.25 | wasynyt | amd makes the chipsets, and oems like asus asemble the boards |
| 22:37.40 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, okay. |
| 22:37.50 | wasynyt | so it is mainly amd tech all the way |
| 22:38.06 | wasynyt | i wish intel had better graphics hardware |
| 22:38.19 | AlexAnteMachina | lol |
| 22:38.36 | AlexAnteMachina | yes. its crap |
| 22:38.52 | wasynyt | but even a gma900 can drive 1920x1200 screen :D |
| 22:38.58 | wasynyt | not too well tho |
| 22:39.09 | wasynyt | and now 3d |
| 22:39.10 | AlexAnteMachina | I'm going to build a PC for my mom. |
| 22:39.12 | wasynyt | *no |
| 22:39.50 | wasynyt | hmm maybe a low range amd x2 processor and amd motherboard with integrated ati hd3200 |
| 22:39.58 | AlexAnteMachina | Thinking about getting such an ION Board with atom n330 dualcore and a nvidia graphics chipset. |
| 22:40.14 | wasynyt | hmm that could be very good as well |
| 22:40.38 | wasynyt | but i think the amd processor will give better user experience, not totally sure tho |
| 22:40.55 | AlexAnteMachina | you know, it's supposed to be a surfing/entertaining pc. but no gaming. |
| 22:41.27 | wasynyt | ati hd3200 has opensource drivers, and 2d works really well |
| 22:41.35 | wasynyt | so it is really hassle free to set up |
| 22:41.48 | wasynyt | and kernel updates should not mess it up |
| 22:44.18 | AlexAnteMachina | I've read a review about an ion system running xbmc very well. |
| 22:44.51 | AlexAnteMachina | so if it can handle this, it should handle stuff like flash-videos on websites easily. |
| 22:44.56 | wasynyt | well the graphics chip in ion is very powerfull for its class |
| 22:45.28 | wasynyt | doesnt flash have gpu acceleration now days? |
| 22:45.38 | AlexAnteMachina | not yet. |
| 22:45.45 | AlexAnteMachina | next version will |
| 22:45.51 | AlexAnteMachina | for nvidia |
| 22:45.53 | AlexAnteMachina | *gg* |
| 22:46.19 | wasynyt | :D |
| 22:46.31 | wasynyt | that will make the ion look really good |
| 22:50.28 | AlexAnteMachina | well.... maybe i#m wrong there |
| 22:51.48 | wasynyt | well it has dual core atom, and that should be able to handle light web browsing and document editing, plus it can run as passively cooled system |
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| 22:54.05 | koshie | Hi ! |
| 22:54.27 | AlexAnteMachina | well, it comes with a Fan, but I'll replace it by a bigger one. |
| 22:54.30 | AlexAnteMachina | ;) |
| 22:54.32 | AlexAnteMachina | hi koshie |
| 22:54.40 | wasynyt | heh |
| 22:54.43 | koshie | I will install Elive tomorrow. |
| 22:54.46 | koshie | ô/ |
| 22:54.52 | wasynyt | good evening koshie |
| 22:54.53 | koshie | RC1 is stable ? |
| 22:54.58 | koshie | good evening. |
| 22:55.16 | AlexAnteMachina | hey wasynyt .... why is koshie trying to threaten me? |
| 22:55.16 | koshie | wasynyt, french isn't ? |
| 22:55.16 | evryanz | koshie: Je crois qu'on se connait |
| 22:55.26 | koshie | evryanz, peut-être. |
| 22:55.55 | evryanz | koshie: mais je n'arrive pas à me rappeler d'où |
| 22:56.01 | koshie | ubuntu-fr.org ? |
| 22:56.05 | koshie | #ubuntu-fr ? |
| 22:56.25 | wasynyt | AlexAnteMachina, huh? |
| 22:56.43 | AlexAnteMachina | :) |
| 22:56.46 | AlexAnteMachina | just kidding. |
| 22:56.47 | koshie | AlexAnteMachina, what ? :D |
| 22:56.51 | evryanz | koshie: J'crois pas... l'ordinateur individuel? |
| 22:57.02 | koshie | evryanz, l'ordinateur individuel? :o |
| 22:57.16 | AlexAnteMachina | that was like "I have a Elive installed.... and I'm going to use it!!!" |
| 22:57.50 | koshie | AlexAnteMachina, I've not Elive :D |
| 22:57.58 | koshie | I've Elive, on a .iso, on my Ubuntu :D; |
| 22:58.14 | evryanz | koshie: les forums l'ordinateur individuel, nan? |
| 22:58.20 | AlexAnteMachina | is using win7 |
| 22:58.29 | koshie | AlexAnteMachina, damned ! |
| 22:58.32 | alias_dubs | koshie, try the live mode ;) |
| 22:58.33 | koshie | Burn in hell ! |
| 22:58.44 | AlexAnteMachina | nah... I've added Debian-Repos to it! |
| 22:58.46 | koshie | alias_dubs, I've already try, long time ago. |
| 22:58.50 | evryanz | AlexAnteMachina: ah, and what you think about it? |
| 22:58.59 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 22:59.05 | koshie | alias_dubs, I can make a multi-boot you know ;) |
| 22:59.07 | koshie | OH YEAH |
| 22:59.10 | koshie | keyra, I love u <3 |
| 22:59.27 | AlexAnteMachina | win7 with debian squeeze repos really rocks! |
| 22:59.39 | koshie | Windows is the shit my friend :o |
| 22:59.42 | koshie | :) |
| 22:59.42 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 23:00.28 | wasynyt | win7 with debian repos o_0 |
| 23:00.47 | koshie | wasynyt, Do you speak french ? |
| 23:00.50 | alias_dubs | koshie, on the other hand you can full elive ;) |
| 23:00.54 | wasynyt | not a word |
| 23:01.00 | AlexAnteMachina | Or was it Debian with win7 repos? |
| 23:01.05 | koshie | wasynyt, So is not you :D |
| 23:01.10 | koshie | wasynyt, say "Bonjour !" |
| 23:01.10 | koshie | :p |
| 23:01.32 | wasynyt | ohh.. now i know one word "Bonjour" |
| 23:01.46 | koshie | "J'aime les hommes maintenant !" |
| 23:01.53 | koshie | (Simpson, the movies) |
| 23:01.53 | alias_dubs | haha |
| 23:01.57 | koshie | "I love men now !" |
| 23:01.57 | evryanz | :D |
| 23:02.08 | koshie | Or... |
| 23:02.21 | koshie | Oh mon Dieu ! Ils ont tués Kenny ! |
| 23:02.25 | koshie | Espèce d'enfoiré ! |
| 23:02.25 | koshie | :p |
| 23:03.42 | koshie | Une souris verte, qui courrait dans l'herbe, je l'attrape par la queue... (I'm stopping right now :p) |
| 23:03.42 | evryanz | x) |
| 23:03.42 | AlexAnteMachina | going to sleep.... |
| 23:03.42 | AlexAnteMachina | by all! |
| 23:03.43 | AlexAnteMachina | o/ |
| 23:03.49 | koshie | evryanz, j'ai chanté ça au concert d'Ultra Vomit ;) |
| 23:04.05 | evryanz | Super! :D |
| 23:04.19 | koshie | have a amazing life ô/ |
| 23:04.21 | koshie | Bref. |
| 23:04.35 | koshie | Elive are really light ? |
| 23:04.53 | alias_dubs | yeah relatively |
| 23:05.08 | alias_dubs | plus leger que gnome en tout cas ;) |
| 23:05.09 | koshie | When I've test it, on a P4 with 512mb of RAM... SLOW |
| 23:05.11 | wasynyt | heads for bed |
| 23:05.20 | wasynyt | good night everyone |
| 23:05.21 | koshie | Très lent :/ |
| 23:05.23 | keyra | koshie: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 23:05.23 | koshie | nenuit wasynyt |
| 23:05.28 | evryanz | koshie: J'ai un pentium à 166 Mhz, 128 Mb de RAM et HD de 2GB: marche parfaitement. |
| 23:05.36 | koshie | evryanz, ça ram pas du tout ? :p |
| 23:05.43 | keyra | evryanz: to use 16 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 23:05.48 | koshie | :o |
| 23:05.54 | koshie | keyra, stfu u :D |
| 23:05.59 | koshie | Bad bot. |
| 23:06.26 | koshie | J'ai 4GO de mémoire vive et un dual core, tu crois que ça tourne evryanz ? >.> |
| 23:06.50 | evryanz | Un Pentium dual Core? |
| 23:07.08 | koshie | ? |
| 23:07.36 | alias_dubs | koshie, j'ai un core solo et 3 go de ram et ca tourne nickel (ac ecomorph activé= |
| 23:07.51 | keyra | alias_dubs: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 23:07.53 | koshie | alias_dubs, KDE 4 aussi y tournerait niquel tu sais.. Vista aussi :D. |
| 23:08.06 | evryanz | Tu as dit que tu avais un dual core, tu sous entends Pentium ou Core (2) Duo |
| 23:08.10 | evryanz | ? |
| 23:09.00 | evryanz | Parce que moi j'ai un PC avec un Pentium dual core et Elive y fonctionne super bien |
| 23:09.01 | alias_dubs | euh non pas vista ;) ca ne tourne pas nickel sur aucune machine machine |
| 23:09.26 | alias_dubs | btw KDE4 est plus leger que gnome |
| 23:09.29 | koshie | Intel(R) CORE(TM)2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00Ghz |
| 23:09.33 | koshie | je sais que ça tournera dessus |
| 23:09.35 | koshie | alias_dubs, ou pas :D |
| 23:09.36 | alias_dubs | (mais plus buggé aussi ;)) |
| 23:09.42 | koshie | ça tournait pas sur mon P4 à 512 de ram |
| 23:09.46 | koshie | GNOME, parfaitement. |
| 23:09.56 | keyra | koshie: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 23:10.11 | koshie | Meurs keyra ! |
| 23:10.25 | evryanz | keyra: stfu pls! |
| 23:10.46 | koshie | keyra, eat your daddy. |
| 23:10.55 | koshie | And sell your mom' |
| 23:11.00 | koshie | uh... |
| 23:11.08 | evryanz | koshie: beer, beer, beer, til die |
| 23:11.09 | koshie | Forget the last sentence, please :/ |
| 23:11.24 | koshie | Bref |
| 23:11.32 | koshie | Je sais qu'Elive tournera comme un charme sur mon PC ;) |
| 23:11.43 | koshie | Juste un pilote proprio à installer. |
| 23:11.45 | koshie | (wifi) |
| 23:11.50 | koshie | (sur Debian, kernel trop vieux) |
| 23:11.56 | koshie | quoi que, la 2.0 a quoi comme kernel ? |
| 23:12.04 | keyra | koshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 23:12.11 | koshie | Die :( |
| 23:12.32 | alias_dubs | 2.6.30 |
| 23:12.38 | koshie | Ah ! |
| 23:12.41 | koshie | Bien ! |
| 23:12.50 | koshie | Normalement mon pilote wifi est reconnu out of the box :)Ã |
| 23:12.57 | koshie | sur lenny ce n'est pas le cas, je dois bidouiller 30 secondes. |
| 23:12.58 | alias_dubs | enfin la 1.9.62 |
| 23:13.01 | koshie | ? |
| 23:13.28 | alias_dubs | non le noyau est sur les repos propres a elive je pense |
| 23:13.35 | koshie | repos ? Dépôt ? |
| 23:13.42 | koshie | Ah, Elive a ses propres dépôts ? |
| 23:14.49 | alias_dubs | oui ils ont un snapshot de lenny + un depot avec leurs propres programmes (configs, enlightenment, etc.) |
| 23:14.54 | koshie | :) |
| 23:15.03 | koshie | C'plus un petit projet Elive à ce que je vois ! |
| 23:15.25 | koshie | Et en terme de facilité, ça reste du Debian ou ça se compare à une Ubuntu ? |
| 23:15.27 | alias_dubs | je ne connaissais pas il y a 3 semaines ;) |
| 23:15.42 | koshie | alias_dubs, y'a deux ans j'ai connu, j'ai brièvement testé à l'époque. |
| 23:16.01 | alias_dubs | et maintenant g viré ubuntu et g plus que elive ;) |
| 23:16.13 | koshie | Et tu trouve ça plus ou moins facile à installer ? |
| 23:16.15 | koshie | heu |
| 23:16.17 | koshie | Pas ça... |
| 23:16.26 | koshie | Mais Mme Michu trouverait ça compliqué? |
| 23:16.34 | alias_dubs | ui |
| 23:16.47 | koshie | Dommage :) |
| 23:16.54 | koshie | Je resterai sur Ubuntu pour mon projet alors :) |
| 23:17.01 | koshie | Veux me faire rémunérer à installer Ubuntu chez des gens. |
| 23:17.05 | alias_dubs | l'installation est simple je trouve |
| 23:17.14 | alias_dubs | et rapide |
| 23:17.53 | alias_dubs | c juste que des fois si tu connais vraiment rien a linux tu peux etre perturbé ms bon c pas le cas appareement dc |
| 23:18.04 | koshie | Ok :) |
| 23:18.08 | koshie | 3 ans et demi |
| 23:18.08 | evryanz | Ubuntu est un ancien mot africain qui veut dire "J'ai la flemme de configurer une Debian" ou "Debian Sid n'est pas assez instable à mon goût", selon les sources. |
| 23:18.11 | koshie | Principalement Ubuntu. |
| 23:18.15 | koshie | evryanz, :D |
| 23:18.25 | koshie | evryanz, j'ai AUCUN bogue sur Karmic Koala |
| 23:18.31 | koshie | et sur Lucid Lynx j'ai quelques petit bogues ;) |
| 23:18.43 | alias_dubs | ui genre le son qui foire |
| 23:18.45 | evryanz | </troll> |
| 23:18.53 | koshie | alias_dubs, j'ai pas ça. |
| 23:18.56 | koshie | Pas du tout ;) |
| 23:19.06 | koshie | "Yes i'm a simple maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan !" |
| 23:19.08 | alias_dubs | moi non plus g plus ubuntu ;) |
| 23:19.23 | koshie | Sérieux, Karmic est franchement stable chez moi :) |
| 23:19.31 | koshie | Je la trouve juste lourde, tout ce que je peux lui reprocher ! |
| 23:19.39 | alias_dubs | et puis sur debian/elive tu recuperes un compte root et ca, ca fait plaisir ;) |
| 23:19.41 | koshie | Mais ça ne sent pas vraiment au vu de ma config. |
| 23:19.49 | koshie | alias_dubs, ça se configure sur Ubuntu ;) |
| 23:19.57 | koshie | Je suis habitué à sudo, arf :D |
| 23:20.03 | koshie | Va falloir que je me ré-habitue au compte root. |
| 23:20.42 | alias_dubs | tu peux tjs ajouter ton user au groupe sudoers et mettre le meme pass au root qu'a ton user |
| 23:20.55 | koshie | Je sais faire :) |
| 23:20.57 | koshie | visudo etc |
| 23:20.58 | evryanz | Enfin moi pour ma part ça fait un an que mon poste principal est un Mac, et je n'ai rien à lui reprocher... |
| 23:21.03 | koshie | han |
| 23:21.18 | koshie | Je me demande, sincèrement, comment on peut utiliser autre chose que GNU/Linux après l'avoir réellement essayé |
| 23:21.21 | koshie | (BSD and co à la rigueur) |
| 23:21.30 | koshie | c'est léger, stable, configurable, ouvert, puissant... |
| 23:21.36 | evryanz | Bah c'est aussi de l'UNIX |
| 23:21.37 | koshie | Gratuit dans 99% des cas ;) |
| 23:21.45 | evryanz | NextStep et tout |
| 23:21.48 | koshie | evryanz, de l'UNIX avec une GROSSE couche fermé etc |
| 23:21.58 | koshie | Sérieux, je ne supporte pas la gueule de Mac OS X |
| 23:22.07 | koshie | Le matos, ok, mais l'OS me donne envie de vomir. |
| 23:22.09 | evryanz | Au moins c'est ultrastable |
| 23:22.25 | koshie | Logique, tout est fermé :D |
| 23:22.37 | alias_dubs | bah ui en meme temps c facile de faire un os ultra stable si ca s'installe que sur un type de machine |
| 23:22.38 | koshie | Et sinon, mon Ubuntu aussi est stable :D |
| 23:22.42 | koshie | alias_dubs, voil) |
| 23:22.45 | koshie | Pas dur :) |
| 23:22.49 | koshie | "c'est rapide !" |
| 23:22.52 | koshie | même remarque. |
| 23:22.57 | alias_dubs | exact |
| 23:23.08 | evryanz | Après y a des priorités, je fais mes études par correspondance, et OOo gère très mal les doc qu'ils me filent |
| 23:23.31 | koshie | dual boot ;) |
| 23:23.43 | evryanz | Et vu que je n'utiliserais en aucun cas Windows ou Office |
| 23:23.54 | alias_dubs | lol |
| 23:23.58 | koshie | evryanz, déjà ça. |
| 23:24.07 | evryanz | (du moins pas pour un poste principal) |
| 23:24.25 | evryanz | (j'ai un PC sous NT 4.0, c'est tout) |
| 23:24.29 | koshie | Moi jamais. |
| 23:26.42 | evryanz | Donc voilà , iWork :) |
| 23:26.56 | koshie | Moi, faudrait me payer chère pour utiliser Mac / Windows |
| 23:26.58 | evryanz | Surtout Pages et un peu Keynote |
| 23:27.11 | evryanz | Ah? Même Mac? |
| 23:27.27 | alias_dubs | surtout mac c'est encore plus fermé je trouve |
| 23:27.38 | alias_dubs | t'as aucune liberté |
| 23:27.44 | koshie | evryanz, j'aime pas du tout la gueule de l'OS |
| 23:27.48 | koshie | et je crois que y'a pas de thème. |
| 23:28.22 | evryanz | Car vous utilisez que de l'opensource? :D |
| 23:28.37 | evryanz | Non mais on peut modifier l'interface |
| 23:28.54 | evryanz | Y a des machins préfabriqués même |
| 23:29.28 | koshie | evryanz, pas vraiment, j'ai flash et java pas libre par exemple |
| 23:29.38 | koshie | Mais j'aime trop GNU/Linux |
| 23:29.47 | koshie | le seul OS qui me comble |
| 23:29.51 | alias_dubs | c pas forcement une question d'open source, apple ils t'enferment dans leur systeme |
| 23:30.11 | alias_dubs | ils t'imposent leurs programmes etc. (genre itunes) |
| 23:30.16 | evryanz | Après faut voir ce que vous faites sur un ordinateur... |
| 23:30.17 | koshie | alias_dubs, c'te daube |
| 23:30.28 | koshie | depuis que j'ai eu un Ipod, je déteste les produits Apple. |
| 23:30.33 | koshie | Si c'est ça pour eux l'ergonomie... |
| 23:30.41 | koshie | Ils devraient changer de dictionnaire... |
| 23:30.52 | evryanz | Bon, vous voulez que je vous dise un truc? |
| 23:30.59 | alias_dubs | ouais ouais |
| 23:31.03 | evryanz | Je suis en ce moment sur un iPod. |
| 23:31.21 | koshie | vomit |
| 23:31.25 | koshie | Sérieux |
| 23:31.33 | koshie | Iriver rox, c'est UMS, ça lit l'.ogg et le .flac |
| 23:31.41 | koshie | 4GO de mémoire extensible |
| 23:31.43 | koshie | rapide |
| 23:31.46 | koshie | 60⬠|
| 23:31.51 | koshie | Ãa poutre littéralement un Ipod ! |
| 23:31.56 | alias_dubs | et pas d'itunes ;) |
| 23:32.02 | alias_dubs | damn ca trolle bien qd meme :) |
| 23:32.04 | koshie | :) |
| 23:32.07 | koshie | Quel troll? :) |
| 23:32.15 | koshie | Je suis entièrement sincère là |
| 23:32.20 | evryanz | Viens une fois sur IRC avec ton Iriver |
| 23:32.27 | koshie | ? |
| 23:32.29 | koshie | CÃ d ? |
| 23:32.48 | alias_dubs | koshie a p-e envie de conserver ces yeux intacts |
| 23:32.49 | evryanz | Bah moi j'ai un client IRC sur mon iPod |
| 23:33.00 | koshie | Naviguer sur Internet avec un baladeur numérique... Faut pas fumer, ça sert à rien :) |
| 23:33.04 | koshie | Un "téléphone" à la rigueur |
| 23:33.13 | koshie | mon baladeur me sert à écouter de la musique evryanz ;) |
| 23:33.17 | koshie | j'ai un ordinateur pour surfer. |
| 23:33.20 | koshie | Une console pour jouer. |
| 23:33.23 | evryanz | Sauf quand on est tout le temps on the go |
| 23:33.40 | koshie | evryanz, y'a des téléphones qui font ça. |
| 23:33.41 | koshie | Mais par contre |
| 23:33.46 | koshie | Rien que pour Itune, je refuse les Ipod. |
| 23:33.52 | alias_dubs | idem |
| 23:34.06 | evryanz | Bah c'pas si mauvais |
| 23:34.08 | koshie | .aac + .mp3, pas plus :/. |
| 23:34.14 | evryanz | Du moins la version Mac |
| 23:34.15 | koshie | evryanz, désolé mais j'ai jamais compris ce logiciel |
| 23:34.25 | koshie | En plus l'histoire de synchronisation pu totalement ! |
| 23:34.31 | koshie | C'est n'importe quoi |
| 23:34.37 | evryanz | Ãa je suis d'accord |
| 23:34.43 | alias_dubs | et puis t'as deja regardé cmt il trie les trucs sur l'ipod |
| 23:34.46 | koshie | Glisser / déposer, point, ça c'est user-friendly. |
| 23:34.48 | alias_dubs | quel foutooir |
| 23:35.01 | evryanz | LÃ oui, je suis d'accord |
| 23:35.07 | koshie | :) |
| 23:35.12 | koshie | T'es pas si mauvais alors evryanz ! |
| 23:35.14 | alias_dubs | tu veux copier une chanson manuellement laisse tomber |
| 23:35.30 | alias_dubs | ah ouais c la chanson 123315453476878599 |
| 23:35.35 | *** join/#elive AlexAnteee (~wurst-han@p57941753.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:35.48 | koshie | ^^ |
| 23:35.51 | koshie | Hi AlexAnteee |
| 23:35.58 | evryanz | Non mais les chansons on peut les copier une par une maintenant |
| 23:36.00 | koshie | On fait un troll IRC / Jabber maintenant ? |
| 23:36.18 | evryanz | Désolé, jamais utilisé Jabber |
| 23:36.19 | AlexAnteee | hi |
| 23:36.19 | alias_dubs | dans l'autre sens aussi ? |
| 23:36.31 | koshie | evryanz, tu devrai :) |
| 23:36.38 | koshie | si tu me dis que tu utilise msn, je te brûle sur place :D |
| 23:36.46 | evryanz | IRC et AIM me suffisent |
| 23:36.46 | alias_dubs | (ipod->ordi) |
| 23:37.35 | alias_dubs | un pote est venu l'autre jour, il voulait me filer une chanson de son ipod, on l'a jms trouvée ;) |
| 23:37.39 | evryanz | alias_dubs: Ouaip, là faut "transférer les achats" |
| 23:37.43 | koshie | re |
| 23:37.59 | koshie | Apple, ou comment enculé le client. |
| 23:37.59 | evryanz | Faut que iTunes soit autorisé |
| 23:38.08 | koshie | Mais le must, c'est que le client s'auto-sodomise ;). |
| 23:38.16 | alias_dubs | hihi |
| 23:38.37 | koshie | Avec les prochains Ipod, un tube de vaseline ! |
| 23:39.00 | evryanz | Après moi je synchronise qu'une seule fois ma musique et mes photos, puis je branche à la prochaine Mà J |
| 23:40.52 | koshie | Moi non |
| 23:40.58 | koshie | je fais au fur et à mesure. |
| 23:41.27 | evryanz | Ãa dépend de la taille de ta bibliothèque |
| 23:41.59 | koshie | Je vois pas ce que ça change :o |
| 23:42.01 | evryanz | Moi je n'ai que 6GB de musique |
| 23:42.22 | evryanz | Bah c'est plus simple de s'y retrouver |
| 23:42.55 | alias_dubs | vais dormir, je vous laisse a vos trolls ;) |
| 23:43.03 | koshie | nenuit |
| 23:43.07 | evryanz | Bonne nuit alias_dubs |
| 23:43.14 | alias_dubs | thx vous aussi |
| 23:43.25 | koshie | evryanz, http://pastebin.com/8KBEsFPz << ça se gère très bien en UMS |
| 23:43.54 | evryanz | ^^ |
| 23:44.07 | evryanz | Bon niveau iPod je dis plus rien |
| 23:44.10 | koshie | :) |
| 23:44.20 | koshie | Ce "troll" fut drôle. |
| 23:44.24 | evryanz | Maintenant niveau Newton :p |
| 23:44.33 | koshie | ? |
| 23:44.42 | evryanz | Apple Newton |
| 23:44.53 | evryanz | Best handhekd device ever! |
| 23:44.59 | koshie | :o |
| 23:45.06 | evryanz | *handheld |
| 23:46.03 | evryanz | J'utilise ça pour prendre mes notes |
| 23:46.48 | evryanz | Un appareil vieux de 16 ans, mais rien à la hauteur :) |
| 23:47.22 | koshie | :p |
| 23:47.28 | koshie | ça ressemble à quoi ? |
| 23:47.53 | evryanz | Heu... Google Images? ^^ |
| 23:49.30 | evryanz | Processeur ARM RISC 32bits 610 @ 20 Mhz, 4Mo ROM, 1Mo RAM |
| 23:49.40 | evryanz | Ãcran monochrome |
| 23:49.44 | keyra | evryanz: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 23:49.53 | evryanz | >.< |
| 23:50.08 | koshie | evryanz, :p |
| 23:50.11 | koshie | flemme du soir |
| 23:50.13 | koshie | pardon :) |
| 23:50.28 | evryanz | C'pas grave ^^ |
| 23:51.16 | evryanz | Et des cartes mémoires de 2Mo pour copier les données :) |
| 23:51.33 | evryanz | (vive les cartes mémoire PCMCIA!) |
| 23:52.51 | evryanz | NT 4 arrive à lire ça avec quelques bidouilles... Mais le gain de temps avec l'écriture est considérable... |
| 23:57.33 | evryanz | Mais bon ZE bête de course quoi :D |
| 23:57.58 | koshie | evryanz, mouais |
| 23:58.05 | koshie | crayon + papier c'bien aussi |
| 23:58.45 | evryanz | C'est moins simple à numériser ^^ |
| 23:59.27 | evryanz | Et puis là y a des fonctions de bases de données avec FilePad |