IRC log for #elive on 20100302

00:12.03evryanzBon, allez moi j'vais me coucher
00:12.11evryanzÀ plus!
00:12.39koshie++
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02:37.54Elive_user83_enhowdy, anyone recomend which ati driver i should use for the onboard radeon x1200 so i dont need to try em all. it has been moved to their legacy package
02:40.42Elive_user83_en(the device is in the legacy driver in the origional set) Ecomorph wont run on my laptop with the first option and was hoping to get it right on the nxt boot so i can try an install.
02:41.53Elive_user83_enfigured id ask cause im falling asleep and didnt feel like browsing for it and trial n error
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02:50.05Gran_GerHi Thanatermesis, r u there?
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07:44.20wasynytgood morning people
07:44.33Wizardhello wasynyt
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07:45.01wasynythow are you doing Wizard
07:45.07Wizardtrying to work :)
07:45.39wasynytany success
07:45.42Wizardyesterday i had first russian classes
07:46.01Wizardso i'm reading some materials instead of working ;)
07:46.42wasynytheh
07:46.54wasynytare you trying to learn russia?
07:46.57wasynytshould
07:47.39Wizardhmm, russian is very easy
07:47.45Wizard:P
07:48.48Wizardonly pronounciation is hard sometimes, but not impossible
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07:49.26wasynytgood to know
07:49.36Wizardbut if you don't speak any slavian language - you're fucked :)
07:53.06wasynythmm i wonder how finnish relates to that
07:53.35Wizardhmm, as far as i have seen.. not much
07:53.49wasynytnice
07:53.52wasynytso it would suck for me
07:53.53wasynyt;S
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08:40.26auziemanhawkboard
08:45.01Wizardwasynyt: you won't know unless you try
08:55.31wasynytWizard, quite so
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09:02.21Wizard:)
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09:15.29Wizardwasynyt: if you have some time look for online course or introduction
09:15.35Wizardwikibook shoud have something
09:15.38Wizard:)
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10:23.51majax8coin \_o<
10:30.31Wizardo_O
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10:50.28koshieHi / Salut
10:51.26evryanzplop koshie
10:51.42koshieJe m'inscrit pour collaborer à Elive.
10:51.50koshieTraducteur français (je suis pas trop mauvais)
10:52.17evryanzMoi je me suis inscrit comme traducteur aussi, mais franchement j'ai encore rien fait... :D
10:52.26evryanz(mais pour le russe)
10:52.34koshie:)
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10:52.43koshieJ'ai du temps à perdre, surtout cette semaine, ma copine est en vacance :'(
10:52.54koshieevryanz, y'a du boulot niveau traduction ?
10:53.09evryanzOuaip, d'après ce que j'ai eu le temps de voir
10:53.13koshie:)
10:53.17koshie(en français je veux dire)
10:53.23koshieTant mieux si y'a du boulot, je veux me sentir utile !
10:53.36evryanzEn français ptetre un peu moins, mais à part l'anglais y a toujours du boulot ^^
10:54.37koshieje reboot sur le live usb ;)
10:54.47evryanzD'acc :p
10:54.51keyrakoshie: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
10:55.06evryanzkeyra: >.<
10:55.18evryanzpokes keyra
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10:58.53Elive_user5_enRe !
10:58.55Elive_user5_enC'est Koshie
10:59.11KoshieBon.
10:59.20KoshieY'a des traductions française assez drôle ;D
10:59.27Koshie"entrer dans l'infirmière"
10:59.28Koshie<3
10:59.34evryanzkeyra t'a pris encore une fois pour un idiot
10:59.42evryanzQue tu voulais faire un live USB
11:00.11KoshieJe suis sur un live USB :o
11:00.19KoshieEt sinon... C'est très beau Elive :)
11:00.26evryanzJ'avoue ^^
11:00.28KoshieEt mon wifi est reconnu, vu la version du noyau.
11:00.39KoshieJe préfère le design sombre quand même, y'en a un non ?
11:00.54KoshieJ'aime le fond d'écran qui change :)
11:01.01evryanzBah t'as le mode "nuit" pour pas te fliguer les yeux
11:01.08evryanz*flinguer
11:01.17KoshieJe l'active comment depuis le live s'il te plaît ? Clique droit non? ^^
11:01.20Koshiesouvenir souvenir
11:01.38evryanzNon faut choisir au démarrage
11:01.48KoshieOn me la pas proposé du tout :/.
11:01.53evryanzAh?
11:01.59Koshiebé
11:01.59Koshieoui
11:02.07evryanzEnfin moi j'ai pas la dernière bêta, ça a ptetre changé
11:02.18evryanzCes derniers temps j'ai du mal à suivre ^^
11:02.22KoshieC'est Enight non ?
11:02.29KoshieLe nom du thème.
11:02.36KoshieNon
11:03.57KoshieAh, dans login configurateur
11:03.57Koshie(le nom xD)
11:04.06evryanzOuais parfois t'as des conneries comme ça
11:04.14KoshieJe suis là pour changer ça ô/
11:04.38KoshieArf
11:04.46evryanz^^
11:04.48Koshiey'a des client d'im pour parler sur MSN, Skype, mais pas Jabber
11:04.51Wizardbonjour
11:04.51Koshieça, j'aime pas du tout :(
11:04.55KoshieSalut Wizard.
11:05.19KoshieWtf
11:05.26KoshieJ'ai ni gajim, ni pidgin dans les dépôts :o
11:06.35KoshieJ'utilise comment jabber ? :(
11:07.04evryanzT'utilise pas? :D
11:07.09KoshieGrmph
11:07.13Koshiesérieusement ?
11:07.23KoshieJ'utilise pas des conneries comme MSN moi monsieur.
11:07.38AlexAnteMachinajabber! That rules!
11:07.38evryanzBah moi non plus
11:07.43KoshieAlexAnteMachina, yead dud ;)
11:07.49evryanzAIM, rien de tel!
11:07.53KoshieAlexAnteMachina, so, how I can use my favorite IM :( ?
11:08.00KoshieI've not gajim and pidgin in the repos.
11:08.10KoshieJe croyais qu'Elive avait les dépôts de Debian + Elive
11:08.13AlexAnteMachinapsi.
11:08.17AlexAnteMachinause psi.
11:08.17Koshiegrmph
11:08.19Koshie:/
11:08.24keyraKoshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
11:08.28KoshieStfu you :D
11:08.32evryanzthrows a large and fearsome goblet at keyra
11:08.46KoshieAlexAnteMachina, not in the live repos.
11:08.50evryanz(j'ai un script de slap, pour des phrases aléatoires)
11:08.55Koshieevryanz, :)
11:08.57evryanz(modifié par mes soins)
11:08.59AlexAnteMachinaits the only messenger I know for jabber and all the others.
11:09.17KoshiePidgin, Gajim, Empathy, Finch, Gadium (for Mac)
11:09.21Koshie;)
11:09.26KoshieA lot of client exist.
11:09.30KoshieBut I can't install it.
11:09.35AlexAnteMachinabut not for jabber!
11:09.41KoshieWhat ?
11:09.47KoshieAll this client use Jabber :o !!
11:09.53AlexAnteMachinaPidgin wont
11:09.58KoshieIt can.
11:10.04AlexAnteMachinasince when?
11:10.05KoshieÔ_Ö
11:10.12Koshieo_o
11:10.17KoshieLong time ago...
11:10.26AlexAnteMachinaI've switched from pidgin to jabber because it wasnt able to handle jabber
11:10.30Koshie:o
11:10.44KoshieSince 3 years of GNU/Linux, pidgin know jabber :o
11:11.01AlexAnteMachinalet me get another coffee the I'll have a look a pidgin again...
11:11.09Koshie:p
11:11.22KoshieBut why gajim, pidgin and a lot of software are not in the repos of Elive ?
11:13.11evryanz(brb)
11:13.13AlexAnteMachinagaim? pidgin?
11:13.17AlexAnteMachinanot in the repos?
11:13.20AlexAnteMachinathey are!
11:13.26AlexAnteMachinaI can see both
11:13.39Koshie:o
11:13.40KoshieWait
11:13.52KoshieAlexAnteMachina, I'm on a USB live
11:14.06AlexAnteMachinathat should use the same repos.
11:14.27Koshie[eliveuser ~]$ aptitude search gajim
11:14.27Koshie[eliveuser ~]$
11:14.29Koshie:/
11:14.38Wizardapt-get update?
11:14.46KoshieWizard, :o
11:15.04Koshie1/ Aptitude rules :D 2/ J'essaie ça...
11:15.11KoshieAh
11:15.18Koshie22534 nouveaux paquets xD
11:15.19AlexAnteMachinafirst of all you need to become root
11:15.26AlexAnteMachinaloool
11:15.27Wizarduh
11:15.28AlexAnteMachinaokay.
11:15.33Koshieô/
11:15.35KoshieIt works
11:15.38KoshieThank for the idea Wizard :)
11:15.40Wizardrox
11:15.42Wizardnp
11:15.43KoshieBut it strange.
11:16.07majaxj'allucine, vous parler francais maintenant ici ?
11:16.11majaxgénial
11:16.18Koshiemajax, un petit peu, je vis juste sur Paris.
11:16.24KoshieDepuis que je suis là, soit hier soir
11:16.28Koshieje parle 10% anglais
11:16.31Koshie90% français.
11:16.32Koshie;-)
11:16.48majaxKoshie: je dit çà car quand j'ai une besoin j'ai trouver que de l'anglais
11:16.59majaxbon ya longtemps aussi
11:17.01KoshiePas compris.
11:17.06majaxben*
11:17.19majaxavant y avait pas de francais ici
11:17.31majaxet ce fut durs d'optenir de l'aide
11:17.34majaxvoilà tout
11:17.41KoshieY'a deux ans, quand j'ai testé
11:17.46Koshieon devait être deux à parler français :)
11:17.48KoshieBref
11:18.00KoshieÇa m'a l'air au poil Elive, je pense l'installer là.
11:18.07Koshie(triple boot Karmic / Lucid / Elive
11:18.16majaxa ces nikel elive
11:18.24majaxcas vaux le detour
11:18.29KoshieUbuntu est génial, mais lourde :)
11:18.34majaxbeurk
11:18.36majaxa non
11:18.40Koshiesi si
11:18.40majaxpas ubuntu
11:18.43Koshieça marche très bien chez moi
11:18.45Koshiepas de bogue...
11:18.49KoshieTrès simple
11:18.53KoshieGrosse communauté :)
11:19.24KoshieHAN
11:19.28KoshieElive propose pas l'ext3
11:19.31KoshieSacrilèèèèège
11:19.39KoshieJe me disais qu'il reconnaissait pas mes Ubuntu ce con :D
11:20.17majaxtrop lourd ubuntu, trop devenue n'importe quoi, et puis a mon sens quand tu vas jetter un coup d'yeux chez #ubuntu-fr, les mec sont prétentieux. ils ne se prenne pas pour des merde
11:20.30majaxoui elive ext 3
11:20.32KoshieEn faite, oui Ubuntu est lourde, mais pas vraiment.
11:20.44KoshieElle me consomme, à vide, 500 mo, mais sur une plus petite config, 130...
11:20.47KoshieElle s'adapte
11:20.51KoshieMais elle est pas véloce quoi
11:21.00majaxa alors
11:21.08majaxelive te changeras la vie
11:21.11KoshieEnsuite, au vu de la taille de la communauté, et le nombre de gens sur IRC, oui, ils se prennent pas vraiment pour de la merde et ça kick vite.
11:21.11majaxtu verra
11:21.24Koshie^^
11:21.28Koshie4GO de mémoire vive, dual core
11:21.30Koshiej'ai pas peur ;D
11:21.34majaxhihi
11:21.35KoshieMême Kubuntu passe chez moi ahah
11:21.54AlexAnteMachinaKoshie, i cant set pidgin to use the jabber protocol
11:21.59KoshieWtf
11:22.07KoshieNot possible
11:22.11AlexAnteMachinait does not offer that protocol
11:22.18KoshieOn my Ubuntu I use pidgin and gajim for Jabber.
11:22.39majaxKoshie: http://desencyclopedie.wikia.com/wiki/Ubuntu
11:22.46KoshieAlexAnteMachina, finch, the text version of pidgin use jabber too
11:22.58KoshieJe connais ;)
11:23.02majaxa*
11:23.07Koshiemajax, Ubuntu a bon dos pour une raison, c'est la plus utilisé.
11:23.17KoshieAprès elle a pas forcement la meilleurs politique sur les logiciels libres
11:23.23KoshieMais c'est une excellente distribution pour débuter
11:23.29Koshiej'ai débuter dessus et j'en étais très content.
11:23.31majaxoui pour débuter
11:23.38KoshieJ'aurai commencer sur Debian, sûr que j'aurai lâcher ;)
11:23.39majaxmoi aussi
11:23.39KoshieEt vite.
11:23.42majax3 jour
11:23.45Koshiex)
11:23.50KoshieTroll :D
11:23.52keyraKoshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
11:23.56KoshieStfu u
11:24.31KoshieSérieusement, Ubuntu est bien, mais y'a mieux en terme de capacité c'est sûr.
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11:24.39KoshieMais en terme d'ergonomie avec Mme Michu
11:24.43KoshieJe vois juste Mandriva à côté :)
11:24.45majaxKoshie: a tout hasard tu connais des serv ou je peut ouvrir un chan facilement sans autorisation spécifique
11:24.50KoshieJabber
11:24.51Koshie;)
11:25.00KoshieJ'aime plus trop IRC depuis que j'utilise Jabber.
11:25.07KoshieTu te rend compte qu'IRC est super restrictif et tout
11:25.10KoshiePas évident
11:25.16KoshieJabber ça se fait en 10 secondes à tout casser
11:25.18Wizardwhy dosn't gedit handle regex?!
11:25.23KoshieEt c'est un mélange d'IRC et IM
11:25.26Wizardwhat a fucking crap :/
11:26.26majaxKoshie:  je connais pas jabber
11:26.32majaxtu peux m'en dire plus
11:26.34KoshieTu devrais essayer
11:26.38KoshieJe peux être ton premier contact
11:26.39KoshieTu vois MSN ?
11:26.53KoshieBah c'est MSN, en libre, en décentralisé (donc pas de société), tu peux faire ton propre serveur
11:27.01AlexAnteMachinaKoshie, its XMPP i have to choose! :)  ... I was looking for Jabber.
11:27.01Koshiela webcam et le micro sont en train d'être implémenté
11:27.12KoshieXMPP is Jabber dur !
11:27.14Koshiedude*
11:27.20KoshieXMPP/Jabber
11:27.24AlexAnteMachinadidnt know that.
11:27.28AlexAnteMachinajust found out.
11:27.31majaxKoshie: a wé je veut bien
11:27.38majaxdans l'aprem té dispo
11:27.38Koshiekevingaspard@jabber.fr
11:27.42majaxbien vus
11:27.43KoshieTu install un client comme Gajim, excellent
11:27.48majaxoké
11:27.51Koshietu te créer un compte dans le logiciel
11:27.56Koshiecomme serveur je te recommande jabber.fr
11:27.56majaxwé
11:28.00majaxoké
11:28.01Koshieet évite le .org, c'est un serveur de test.
11:28.05Koshie;)
11:28.07majaxca marche
11:28.21KoshieAller, je donne 5€ à Eliev.
11:28.22majaxet je peut faire du fserveur dessus
11:28.30Koshiefserveur ?
11:28.59majaxwé ces sur irc, je partage un repertoire de mon chois sur mon chann
11:29.20KoshieJe vois pas ce que ça peut être !
11:29.32majaxben en faite ces
11:29.36majaxta un chann
11:29.42majaxet sur ceux chann
11:29.57majaxtu partage des fichier que les user peuve dl
11:30.42KoshieJe vois :)
11:30.49KoshieJe sais pas si ça peut se faire sur Jabber.
11:30.55KoshieMais y'a le cloud computing aussi
11:30.59KoshieGenre dropbox
11:31.18Koshievient de payer Elive 5€ ô/
11:31.48KoshieInvalid Paypal transaction
11:31.52Koshie:o
11:32.07KoshieThanatermesis, are you here? I've a problem :o
11:32.10Wizard"oh fuck! where's my money?" :D
11:32.11KoshieWith the payment.
11:32.14Koshie:(
11:32.21KoshieRembourser nos invitations !!
11:32.47ThanatermesisKoshie, invalid paypal transaction ? mmmh
11:32.49Thanatermesislet me try
11:32.57Koshiekevin.gaspard@gmail.com ;)
11:33.01KoshieThank dude
11:34.38KoshieJe vais me rouler une clope je crois :D
11:34.58Koshiemajax, tu as fais ton adresse ?
11:35.56evryanzreuh
11:36.39Koshiere
11:37.18evryanzWizard: :D
11:37.36majaxKoshie: non je finis un truck et je m'y met
11:37.38KoshieJe reviens dans quelques minutes.
11:37.41Koshiemajax, ok ;)
11:37.44Koshiepause tabac
11:39.57evryanzAttendez, on est le 2?
11:40.14evryanzYouhou, c'est aujourd'hui que MacHeist va faire son bundle gratuit!
11:40.51evryanz12h, 19 min, 10 s to go :D
11:45.29Koshieevryanz, ? ^^
11:46.11evryanzNon mais c'est un pack d'applications payantes for free, en général tu peux économiser une bonne centaine d'euros
11:46.26keyraevryanz: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
11:46.39evryanzleads keyra into a dark alley - Hey, test my random number of NinjTurtles!
11:46.54keyraevryanz: test ? o_O what are you thinking' ?
11:47.04evryanzdeletes keyra's iTunes DB
11:47.11evryanzNa.
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11:49.10evryanzHeureusement que j'ai eu le temps de le dire avant que alias_dubs ne rentre :D
11:49.24evryanzSi non je m'aurais fait tuer ^^
11:50.15alias_dubstu fais des monologues sur moi ;)
11:50.34evryanzNon, j'ai parlé d'iTunes :p
11:50.51alias_dubsencore
11:50.57alias_dubsc une obsession ;)
11:51.20evryanzNon mais en fait keyra a dit une connerie, alors j'ai utilisé mon script de slap aléatoire, et c'est tombé sur...
11:51.29evryanzdeletes keyra's iTunes DB
11:51.47alias_dubshaha
11:52.57evryanzJe re, faut redémarrer pour installer VMWare
11:52.58alias_dubsmeme en aleatoire ca revient a itunes, c'est fort quand meme
11:53.12alias_dubsok see ya
11:54.14KoshieItunes is the shit my friend !
11:54.56alias_dubsKoshie, toujours le mot pour rire
11:55.09alias_dubsKoshie, alors elive ?
11:55.26Koshiealias_dubs, petit soucis d'installation, Thanatermesis m'aide là :)
11:55.38alias_dubsah cool ca
11:55.42Koshie;)
11:55.44alias_dubs(enfin pour l'aide bien sur)
11:55.44KoshieJe dois reboot
11:55.47alias_dubsok
11:56.30Thanatermesiswant to know any possible problem with the payment/module/installer/iso/live/anything for this 2.0 :)
11:56.58evryanzvlà
11:57.08Thanatermesisbugs.elivecd.org:
11:57.10Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
11:57.10Thanatermesis100% of 166 tasks completed.
11:57.22evryanzCool!
11:57.23alias_dubsyes !
11:57.37alias_dubscongrats are in order !
11:57.57evryanzSo when will it be available? =)
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11:59.13koshieI'm return ô/
11:59.32Thanatermesisevryanz, 2.0 ? very soon :) maybe 1-2 days
11:59.53ThanatermesisRC2 is already uploaded
11:59.58Thanatermesisminor changes in installer
12:00.06evryanzGreat! :)
12:00.10alias_dubsthis is great Thanatermesis
12:00.56koshieIt works I think Thanatermesis
12:01.07alias_dubsI think a lot of people will hear about elive with this new stable version
12:01.21keyraalias_dubs: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
12:01.25koshieOn the Ubuntu forum we speak about Elive
12:01.42koshieBecause we will paye for it, a little bit of people don't like that.
12:01.45koshieThey are idiots.
12:01.51koshieThe majority think it's normal.
12:02.13koshieErk, I don't want a /boot :/
12:02.25koshieI can skip that ?
12:02.31alias_dubsnot sure
12:02.48alias_dubsyou can skip the /home
12:02.57koshieI've a separated /home
12:02.58alias_dubsbut the /boot I don't know
12:03.14koshieBut I've dont a /boot, and I've two Ubuntu on my Harddisk.
12:03.22koshieI don't want to use a /boot.
12:03.34Thanatermesiskoshie, you must answer this on the ubuntu forums :)  http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
12:04.06koshieThanatermesis, is not the prob
12:04.13Thanatermesiskoshie, the "start from here" link points to gnu.org and talks about paying free software, it is a really intesting read because it is even violent! (direct, clear)
12:04.18koshieA lot of stupid people on GNU/Linux like that because is free of money.
12:04.26Thanatermesisyes
12:04.28keyraThanatermesis: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
12:04.28koshieBut they don't understand...
12:04.35koshieThanatermesis, Can I skip a /boot ? :/
12:04.38koshieI don't want thaaaart
12:04.40koshie-r
12:04.44Thanatermesisand the answer for this question is  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
12:04.45Thanatermesis:)
12:04.57Thanatermesiskoshie, which filesystem you have selected for /  ?
12:05.03koshieext4
12:07.03alias_dubsbut as you said, koshie, most people understand the payment,even if at first some might be surprised because it is not so usual
12:08.06koshieBut Thanatermesis use all of his time, right ?
12:08.07Thanatermesisdon't use ext4
12:08.10Thanatermesisuse reiser4 better ;)
12:08.13Thanatermesiswith gzip compression even
12:08.17koshieThanatermesis, I prefer ext4
12:08.19evryanzThanatermesis: By the way, I've sent you a mail some days ago, where I said that it is possible to make a mirror for Elive on my shared server... While you're here, can you say me if you are interested in that?
12:08.19koshie:D
12:08.23Thanatermesisits a lot more unstable
12:08.28koshieI don't think
12:08.35koshieI use it since it exist
12:08.39Thanatermesiswell, its your choice :)
12:08.40koshieAny prob !
12:08.42koshieOk
12:08.47Thanatermesisand yes, you need /boot
12:08.50koshie:/
12:08.57Thanatermesisnot needed for some filesystems, but for this one and reiser4 yes
12:09.00Thanatermesissame for xfs
12:09.00koshieAny problem if my other GNU/Linux don't use it.
12:09.17koshie?
12:09.25Thanatermesiswell, that depends if grub is capable to boot these filesystems or not
12:09.37Thanatermesisnot a problem to use or not it... it is just "needed" sometimes
12:09.48Thanatermesisif is needed you will notice it, your system wont boot :)
12:10.19koshieThanatermesis, After the installation of Elive, I chroot my Ubuntu and i try : update-grub
12:10.29koshie(it's the new grub), and after I think no prob
12:10.48Thanatermesisthe Elive grub is a special (different) grub
12:11.00koshieI want to use the Grub of Karmic Koala ;)
12:13.13alias_dubsotherwise i think you can ext3 with no /boot
12:13.17alias_dubs*go
12:13.31koshieI use ext2 for /boot
12:13.41koshieAh i've understand :)
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12:13.59alias_dubs:D
12:14.02ShelrinThanatermesis, estas?
12:14.13ThanatermesisShelrin, dime
12:14.44Shelrintodavia no e echo el escan del sistema
12:14.52Shelrinpero  tengo un error que me a salido de perl
12:16.12Shelrinespera que lo guarde y ahora no lo encuentro
12:16.30Shelrines de python perdon y me sale al escanear con el net-connector y al descargar aveces en apt
12:17.02Thanatermesisdel netconnector ? a ver muestralo en un http://pastie.org/pastes/new
12:17.55koshieThanatermesis, reiser are really stable and fast ?
12:19.03alias_dubsyes but you still need a /boot (with reiser4)
12:19.06koshieOk
12:19.12koshieI use that so.
12:20.39Shelrinvale la e liado lo e borrado sin querer me sale aveces al explorar o abrir el net-connector lo guarde para cuando te pillara conectado mostrartelo y mira
12:20.55Thanatermesiskoshie, yes, i have tried some hard tests and is very reliable, more than ext4 in my tests lol
12:21.01koshieOk :)
12:21.02Shelrinde todas maneras tambien tengo el lector de tarjetas SD del portatil que no va
12:21.09koshieI'm like Indiana Jones you know :D
12:21.11Thanatermesiskoshie, kuse it with gzip compression and will be even more fast :)
12:21.46Shelrines la 1 vez que lo pruebo en linux hace un momento y no funciona
12:22.00ThanatermesisShelrin, bueno, ignora lo del netconnector, ya se lo que es, simplemente ignoralo, y sobre el lector..tampoco funciona en el mio, que es un modelo diferente, parece un problema de hardware
12:22.09koshieReiser-i-kill-my-wifeFS <3
12:22.22evryanz:|
12:22.35Thanatermesisevryanz, sorry, i have not read your message :), of course any mirror is welcome!
12:22.51Thanatermesisevryanz, http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoMirrors
12:23.01alias_dubsmurderFS ;)
12:23.19koshieAHAH
12:23.19koshie:D
12:23.24Thanatermesisthe good one is "use reiserfs or ill fsck kill you"
12:24.08koshieI think I know why he kill his wife
12:24.32evryanzThanatermesis: Actually there is just a little problem with that... but I can't tell it on the channel
12:24.38koshieShe says at they friend "ReiserFS is good, but now the computer shutdown" Or something like that
12:26.09koshieMy english suck :o
12:26.12Shelrinok, hace un momento e puesto aterm y le puesto transparencia pero sale solo la transparencia al abrir despues cuando lo muevo y sigue como al abrir
12:26.20Shelrines por lo del 3D que me comentaste
12:26.20evryanzkoshie: T'es pas le seul :D
12:26.20Shelrin?
12:26.25koshieevryanz, :}
12:26.33koshieevryanz, toi aussi tu "suck" hein? :D
12:26.38Thanatermesisevryanz, tell me in PV then
12:26.39evryanzOuaip ^^
12:26.48koshieevryanz, maintenant je déprime.
12:26.53koshieÇa me rappelle ma copine, qu'est pas là.
12:26.54koshiefuit
12:27.10ThanatermesisShelrin, si, usa compiz si quieres transparencia
12:27.25keyraThanatermesis: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
12:29.11koshieElive is installed :)
12:29.51alias_dubs\o/
12:30.47koshie[eliveuser ~]$ sudo chroot /media/system
12:30.47koshiechroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
12:30.48koshieFor a chroot
12:30.50koshiewtf :o
12:31.14koshieI'm in the shit :'(
12:32.07alias_dubswhy do you need to chroot again?
12:32.15koshieJe dois installer coreutils
12:32.22koshiealias_dubs, pour faire sur Ubuntu update-grb
12:32.23Thanatermesiskoshie, umount and mount with -o dev
12:33.02koshie?
12:33.19koshiethe chroot command is in the coreutils, but I can't install it :/
12:33.54koshieIt is installed :o
12:33.58koshieI don't understand :(
12:34.12koshieThanatermesis, for chroot I read this : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/chroot
12:34.27koshieJust the first command, in the black part
12:35.11koshieWith the command in the blue part it's the same !
12:35.22koshieSo, I need a live CD / USB of Ubuntu now ;p
12:36.01alias_dubsyour karmic won't boot?
12:36.01Thanatermesiskoshie, umount and mount with -o dev
12:36.10Thanatermesisis your mountpoint mounted ?
12:36.14koshiealias_dubs, If I don't chroot, no ;)
12:36.52koshieTha[eliveuser ~]$ sudo mount -o dev /media/system/
12:36.52koshiemount: /dev/sda5 already mounted or /media/system busy
12:36.52koshiemount: according to mtab, /dev/sda5 is already mounted on /media/system
12:38.18koshieI've an idea
12:39.13alias_dubskoshie, it doesn't umount?
12:39.20koshieIl est déjà monté
12:39.22koshieregarde la doc ubuntu
12:39.25koshiec'est ce que j'ai fais
12:39.27alias_dubsdémonté
12:39.32alias_dubstu demontes
12:39.42koshieok
12:39.46alias_dubspuis tu montes avec l'option
12:39.48alias_dubs-o ddev
12:40.10koshiedevice is busy :/
12:40.28alias_dubsppfff
12:40.39koshieAu pire si j'ai le /boot, j'ai le grub d'elive non ?
12:40.44koshieDonc je peux au moins booter Eliev ?
12:40.48koshieDonc réparer le reste ensuite.
12:40.52koshieJ'espère...
12:41.14koshieBon, j'essaie
12:41.17koshieCroisez les doigts pour moi :D !
12:41.25alias_dubsui p-e que tu pourrras booter les autres aussi ;)
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12:43.02koshieHey
12:43.09koshieELive est pas dans grub, mais j'ai Ubuntu
12:43.11koshieDonc ça va aller vite ;)
12:43.19koshieJe re dans 10 minutes, thank Thanatermesis !
12:43.24koshieEt aux autres :)
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12:54.02koshieRe
12:54.10koshieGRUB2 n'ajoute pas Elive :o
12:54.12koshieL'enfoiré.
12:54.15koshieJ'aime pas GRUB2.
12:55.48koshieYou've the payment Thanatermesis ? All is okay ?
12:55.58koshieWith this file I can install Elive on all compute I want ?
12:56.03koshie+r
12:56.43evryanzkoshie: Non, c'est un fichier différent généré pour chaque ordinateur
12:56.50koshieOh :o
12:56.54evryanzEnfin, à ce que je sache
12:57.02koshieDommage, pour faire de la pub c'est un défaut à mon sens :)
12:57.03evryanzParce que ça dépend du numéro qu'il te donne
12:57.11koshieSurtout que ça empêcherai pas de payer je pense ;)
12:57.12Thanatermesis<koshie> With this file I can install Elive on all compute I want ?
12:57.13Thanatermesisno
12:57.19Thanatermesisit is made to work on a unique computer
12:57.23koshieOk
12:57.27Thanatermesiskoshie, use the normal grub by Elive then :)
12:57.29Thanatermesisand a /boot
12:57.34Thanatermesisjust give it 50 mb, not more needed
12:57.37koshie<troll>Is like Windows? ;D</troll>
12:57.52koshieThanatermesis, but I want the GRUB2 of my "favorite" OS :)
12:57.55koshieUbuntu Karmic Koala
12:58.00Thanatermesisevryanz, exacte
12:58.07koshieSecurity... If Elive die etc.
12:58.35Thanatermesiskoshie, no, windows uses serials that are very easy to hack, Elive uses a lot more secure system :)
12:58.41koshie:p
12:58.44koshieYou're the hell !
12:58.46koshie:D
12:59.00Thanatermesissay Elive in the inverse and you got an Evil Enlightnement ;)
12:59.05koshieThe new GRUB need a module for Reiser :o
12:59.09koshie^^
12:59.21evryanzWow!
12:59.23evryanz:D
12:59.30Thanatermesislike i say, use simply the default grub of Elive and a /boot of 50 mb
12:59.41koshieThanatermesis, I know
12:59.48koshieBut I prefer us the GRUB of Ubuntu
12:59.53koshieBecause is my #1 system
12:59.57koshieThe other it's just for fun.
12:59.59koshie(for the moment)
13:00.02Thanatermesismmh
13:00.05Thanatermesisok, try this
13:00.08Thanatermesisselect the complete mode install
13:00.13Thanatermesisthen install grub in your Elive partition
13:00.21Thanatermesisthen point the grub of ubuntu to this partition
13:00.28Thanatermesisnot sure how much this works... is not very tested
13:01.25koshieI've dont understand... I use tje complete mode install of Elive, it install GRUB on the Elive partition, and for Ubuntu... I've not understand.
13:02.37evryanzkoshie: C'est pas plutôt "I did not understand"? ^^
13:02.49koshieevryanz, je suis fatigué
13:02.52koshieme fais pas chier :p
13:02.55evryanz:p
13:03.11evryanzNon mais ça c'est du réfléchi en français :p
13:03.33koshieMais
13:03.35koshieMais
13:03.37koshieTAIS-TOI
13:03.38koshie:D
13:03.59evryanzmakes koshie watch the IMDb Bottom 100
13:04.07koshie:o
13:04.18evryanz(tu vois, c'est loin du slap ça :D)
13:07.40koshieest embêté.
13:07.46koshieJe veux utiliser Elive, shit.
13:08.01koshieMais je fais GRUB2 de mon Ubuntu.
13:14.18koshiePour ceux que ça intéresse : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3312687#p3312687
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13:52.55koshieI'm return
13:53.58koshieThanatermesis, Do you think to translate the website in french ?
13:54.46AlexAnteeegg
13:54.53AlexAnteeethere isnt even a spanish version
13:55.08evryanzBut that's a great idea anyways
13:55.44koshieI think it's not so hard for me, I think I can.
13:56.22AlexAnteeethat was already discussed about a year ago.
13:56.35koshieAnd ?
13:57.01AlexAnteeehe does not want to host a multi-language site
13:57.07koshie:(
13:57.16evryanzBut for example we can make a page in french
13:57.20koshieYeah
13:57.27AlexAnteeeof course
13:57.29evryanzI can host it on my server
13:57.48koshieevryanz, and I will create my own server, maybe with two servers...
13:57.53koshieevryanz, en redondance
13:58.04koshieJe n'ai pas une très bonne connexion mais avec plusieurs serveur ça peut tenir la route je pense
13:58.18AlexAnteeeyou have some spare hdds?
13:58.22evryanzNon mais moi j'vais avoir un mirroir d'elive en fait
13:58.38koshieAlexAnteee, I don't understand.
13:58.51AlexAnteeesome left over hdds
13:59.03koshiehdds < Hard disk ?
13:59.08AlexAnteeeyes
13:59.12koshieFor what?
13:59.15AlexAnteeehard-disk-drive
13:59.18koshieOk :)
13:59.25AlexAnteeefor creating a RAID5
13:59.30koshieHum... No :D
13:59.38koshieI've just a eeePC for my server.
13:59.50koshieOriginaly it's just for me, jabber, e-mail and host a website / blog
13:59.55AlexAnteeeyou want to turn a eeepc into a server?
13:59.58koshieYes.
14:00.08AlexAnteeewhat eee?
14:00.09koshieThe screen was broken.
14:00.13evryanzMy homeserver is an eeePC too ^^
14:00.15AlexAnteee700-series?
14:00.23koshieeeePC 901 HD (hd of 160GB)
14:00.31koshieOn ArchLinux
14:00.32evryanzI have the first, the 701
14:00.37evryanzDebian Lenny :)
14:00.42koshieevryanz, et ça tourne bien ? Y'a pas un petit dd dessus ?
14:00.52keyraevryanz: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
14:00.58evryanzsocks keyra with a red Macbook
14:00.58koshieStfu you, fucking bot
14:01.02AlexAnteeewell, but make sure you have good backups.
14:01.10AlexAnteeesome day the hdd will die.
14:01.19koshieAlexAnteee, I will sell a 1,5TB hd
14:01.24koshie:)
14:01.28evryanzkoshie: Ouaip, SSD de 4GB pour le système, et un disque dur de 160 GB pour les fichiers
14:01.35koshieAnd I will sell a server for the backup.
14:01.38koshieevryanz, ;)
14:01.48koshiesell = vendre ou acheter ?
14:01.50koshieJ'ai oublié;..
14:01.52AlexAnteeeyou will sell them?
14:01.52evryanzVendre
14:01.56AlexAnteeewhy that?
14:01.56koshieMerde :o
14:02.01koshieAlexAnteee, bad word ;D
14:02.04koshiebuy
14:02.06koshieI'm idiot.
14:02.08evryanz*wrong word
14:02.12koshieStfu toi :D
14:02.13evryanzBad word = gros mot
14:02.14AlexAnteeeoh... you want to buy them!!
14:02.18koshieYeah xD
14:02.19AlexAnteee*gg*
14:02.21koshie:}
14:02.22AlexAnteeenow i understand.
14:02.26AlexAnteee;)
14:02.38koshieOne hd of 1,5TB and a server for backup too
14:02.51AlexAnteee???
14:02.58Thanatermesiskoshie, maybe in the future, using google translator
14:03.02koshiexD
14:03.06koshieGoogle translator, LOL
14:03.07koshie:D
14:03.25AlexAnteeeThanatermesis, dont even think of using that fucking translation-software.
14:03.37koshieFor a word, it's good
14:03.40Thanatermesisno LOL, is the best choice by a lot of reasons
14:03.46koshieA little sentence too.
14:03.51AlexAnteeeits creating lots of unusable shit
14:03.54koshieBut for a website, it's a BIG joke.
14:04.20ThanatermesisAlexAnteee, but you can (without a special login/permission) translate correctly the website :)
14:04.26Thanatermesisusing google translator
14:04.34AlexAnteeecorrectly????
14:04.35koshieThanatermesis, But for a big part ?
14:04.46ThanatermesisAlexAnteee, are you not a correct translator ?
14:04.56Thanatermesiskoshie, what's the difference ?
14:05.27AlexAnteeeThanatermesis, what are you using for creating those weird translations when uploading new system-messages?
14:05.41koshieThanatermesis, Google can't make a good translation...
14:05.46AlexAnteeeAre you using this Google Translator thing?
14:06.07koshieThe french translate of Elive are sometimes funny ;)
14:06.27ThanatermesisAlexAnteee, yes
14:06.31koshiexD
14:06.33AlexAnteeethose are a real pain
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14:06.41koshieThanatermesis, I understand now :D
14:06.48Thanatermesisbut they are not translations, just pre-made-translations
14:06.54Thanatermesisthey are marked as a "needs review"
14:07.00AlexAnteeei hate them with a passion.
14:07.02koshieThanatermesis, seriously, somestimes in Elive the french translate are funny.
14:07.13AlexAnteeeeverytime you do that im getting angry.
14:07.14Thanatermesiskoshie, but then is because there's no french translators ;)
14:07.23evryanzLe machin avec l'infirmière, c'était quoi déjà?
14:07.33ThanatermesisAlexAnteee, better than no-translation
14:07.34koshieThanatermesis, I'm here :o
14:07.41koshieevryanz, aller dans l'infirmière mode.
14:07.43koshie:D
14:07.44AlexAnteeesimply leaving them english would be better.
14:07.56evryanzkoshie: Et en anglais?
14:07.59Thanatermesiskoshie, so then run "eltrans", all these tarzanic sentences that you say should appears in eltrans as message not translated
14:08.03koshieevryanz, nurse mode je crois
14:08.11evryanzAH ouais :D
14:08.13keyraThanatermesis: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
14:08.26evryanzT_T
14:08.47AlexAnteeethose automated translations are confusing and not understandable very often.
14:09.17koshieThanatermesis, I want to translate a part of Elive because I think a automated translate are so bad. I'm not a beast in english but I think with time, dictionnary and a little bit google translate I can make a good thinkg.
14:09.21koshie-k
14:09.42AlexAnteeesorry but i need to go now.
14:09.47koshieCya
14:09.56AlexAnteeebe back later .... working on some translations.
14:09.58AlexAnteee:P
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14:11.11koshieWhy you don't want to make a french translation of the Elive's website Thanatermesis ?
14:11.42Thanatermesisso do you think that is better a no-translation than a tarzanic one ? there's a lot of ppl that doesn't speak english
14:12.27koshieThanatermesis, your choice is better than no-translation, but it's not perfect.
14:12.29Thanatermesiskoshie, have you a translator account ?
14:12.44koshieThanatermesis, yeah
14:12.58Thanatermesisok good :)
14:13.16Thanatermesisbtw tomorrow is the final day for these translations to be included in 2.0
14:13.30koshieoh :o
14:13.34koshieI'm late ;D
14:13.40evryanzAh! So maybe I can help a little too!
14:13.59koshieevryanz, :)
14:14.06koshieOn a qu'à faire nos traductions ensemble
14:14.14koshieOn ne fera qu'un meilleurs résultat.
14:14.14evryanzOuaip
14:14.19koshieI will be back
14:14.30evryanzJe télécharge la dernière version alors
14:15.42Thanatermesisevryanz, koshie only one important thing to know: do not do the same translation element at the same time
14:15.56Thanatermesisif not, when you will commit (send) it you will have a conflict between both modified translations
14:16.06Thanatermesisjust do a different one per time
14:17.16evryanzOkay
14:18.26koshiehey
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14:19.07koshieevryanz, il veut dire qu'on doit pas faire de traduction de quelque chose en même temps tous les deux ?
14:19.25evryanzOn doit pas envoyer les traductions en même temps
14:19.28koshie:)
14:19.35koshieBah, si on bosse les traductions ensemble ?
14:19.37koshieOn en envoie qu'une.
14:19.42evryanzVoilà
14:19.51koshieChacun bosse sur un truc, on vérifie le travail de l'autre
14:19.54koshieje sais pas moi :)
14:20.01evryanz:)
14:20.18evryanzJ'télécharge la dernière version puis je mets ça dans VMWare
14:20.45evryanzFaut faire un max de traductions pour que ce soit correct pour la sortie
14:20.50koshieBah
14:20.52koshieLà, c'est chaud
14:20.54koshiechaud chaud chaud :o
14:21.04koshieSurtout qu'en plus, mon Elive est inutilisable là :)
14:21.07koshieSauf si je passe par le live USB ;)
14:21.24evryanzBah installe VirtualBox sur ton Ubuntu
14:21.45koshieevryanz, ah vi aussi :)
14:21.48koshieSuis-je con
14:21.51evryanz^^
14:22.06evryanzSurtout qu'elive a déjà les additions VirtualBox préinstallés
14:22.23koshieAh tiens, une cliente pas contente dans la boutique de ma mère :d
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14:22.27koshie:D
14:22.33evryanz^^
14:22.49koshieElle gueule :D
14:23.04koshieBon, je prépare ma lacrymogène.
14:23.09koshievise la madame
14:23.12evryanzxD
14:23.32koshieElle ma casse les oreilles.
14:23.56evryanzAu fait, tu as quel âge koshie? ^^
14:26.03koshieOula
14:26.12koshieMa mère et la dame ce sont balancé des trucs à la gueule
14:26.12koshiexD
14:26.19evryanzô_O
14:26.33koshieVéridique
14:26.35koshiej'ai envie de rigoler.
14:26.37koshiese retient
14:26.42koshieElle va croire que je me moque d'elle.
14:26.50evryanzC'est qui qui a commencé?
14:27.09koshieen faite elle avait une robe trop serré, ma mère la retouche.
14:27.16koshieElle revient, elle est trop large
14:27.29koshieElle, comme une idiote n'essaie pas la robe sur place, ALORS qu'on a des cabines.
14:27.41koshieElle revient, ma mère arrive et elle demande qu'on lui refasse
14:27.54koshiemais s'étonne qu'on fasse encore payer (je m'en fou, c'la politique de ma mère j'y suis pour rien)
14:27.57koshieet elles lèvent la voix
14:28.06koshieelle balance la robe sur ma mère, ma mère lui rebalance
14:28.10koshieÇa gueule
14:28.15koshieJ'ai 18 ans au faite :p
14:28.34koshieEt au milieu notre couturière qui parle à peine français (elle est chinoise) qui essaie de se faire comprendre xD
14:28.53koshieEt toi tu as quel âge evryanz ?
14:28.58evryanzMwa 15 :)
14:29.02koshieOk
14:29.08koshieT'es meilleurs en anglais que moi, enflure ^^
14:29.17koshieSur le coup j'ai éloigné mon PC du comptoir, on sait jamais ;D
14:29.26evryanzBah ça fait 4 ans que j'en fais
14:29.39koshieBah j'en fais depuis la 6ème mais bon
14:29.44evryanzDont deux avec une prof complètement conne
14:29.51koshieça a jamais été ma matière favorite, sans bosser j'ai la moyenne.
14:29.53evryanzQui ne nous faisait rien prendre comme cours
14:30.09koshieAlors si j'avais bossé !
14:30.28koshieMon dieu, j'ai envie de rire, mais de rire xD
14:32.02evryanz630 ko/s c'est correct, nan? :)
14:32.41koshieEnflure
14:32.42koshiegrmph
14:32.49evryanzMais pourquoi il est toujours obligé de me monter les ISOs que je télécharge?
14:33.05evryanzPfff... Mais si je désactive ça montera plus les dmg.
14:33.15koshieMAC
14:33.16koshievomit
14:33.32evryanzA... attends...
14:33.47evryanzComment ça se fait 725 Mo sur 690?!!
14:34.00koshieevryanz, on peut commencer par traduire le menu du début non ?
14:34.04koshieIl est en anglais, même avec fr.
14:34.06evryanzAttend
14:34.19evryanzThanatermesis: I think there is a little problem with the sync
14:34.48evryanzIt downloads more than the size of the ISO
14:35.02Thanatermesisevryanz, which sync you are talking about ?
14:35.05Thanatermesiswhich mirror have you used ?
14:35.09evryanzMine ^^
14:35.16Thanatermesismmh
14:35.19Thanatermesischeck the md5sum of the iso
14:35.33keyraThanatermesis: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5
14:35.34evryanz790 Mo of 690, and it downloads, downloads...
14:35.49evryanzThanatermesis: I mean it doesn't stop the download
14:36.09Thanatermesiswhich iso ? and which application you use for download it ?
14:36.33evryanzelive_2.0-RC2.iso with Safari
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14:37.32koshieApple is the shit my friend !
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14:38.00evryanzPas à ce point là... C'est un problème sur le serveur je pense plutôt...
14:38.03Elive_user44_frC'koshie :D
14:38.32koshieToi tu meurs Elive_user44_fr.
14:38.37Elive_user44_fr:(
14:38.38koshie:)
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14:39.10Koshie-VBevryanz, on a pas le temps de traduire pour demain, si ? :/
14:39.29evryanzAucune idée, faut déjà que j'arrive à le télécharger correctement :-s
14:39.41Koshie-VBVrauiment léger Elive, j'ai mis 256mb de ram sur la vb.
14:39.51Koshie-VB-u
14:39.53evryanzTu en as combien en tout?
14:40.01Thanatermesis<Koshie-VB> evryanz, on a pas le temps de traduire pour demain, si ? :/
14:40.09Thanatermesisyou can even send incompleted translations
14:40.20Thanatermesisbetter a few messages than nothing :)
14:40.24evryanzYeah
14:40.24Koshie-VBThanatermesis, I've see a very bad translation. When you boot ELive.
14:40.36Koshie-VBLe "scintillement"
14:40.36evryanzBut first I need to download it :-s
14:40.39Koshie-VBj'ai vu "ya"
14:40.41Koshie-VBJ'ai ris.
14:40.55Thanatermesiskoshie, boot Elive = liveboot translations
14:41.02Koshie-VBok
14:41.14Koshie-VBSpeak at Koshie-VB Thanatermesis please :)
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14:41.24Koshie-VBMore simple.
14:41.33Thanatermesisevryanz, im downloading the iso from your mirror with wget and see what does...
14:41.42evryanzOkay
14:41.54evryanzI take it from icedslash
14:41.54Thanatermesisat least his "identity" is marked as 690 mb
14:41.59evryanzYes
14:42.09evryanzBut it doesn't stop at this moment
14:42.23Koshie-VBI will be back
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14:43.16koshieThanatermesis, liveboot translation is an entry for the boot? :o
14:44.43nurdysil  ya une nouvelle version qui sort demain?
14:44.52koshienurdys, la 2.0 oui
14:45.06koshieC'est quoi ton problème en faite evryanz ?
14:45.12Thanatermesiskoshie, all the boot messages in live mode should be in hte libeboot section
14:45.36nurdysil ya de mise a jour logiciel?
14:45.36koshieI'm sorry but I'm not sure to understand :s
14:45.50koshiethe liveboot section? Where ? :o
14:46.29evryanzkoshie: Lorsque je télécharge l'iso depuis mon propre serveur, lorsque le téléchargement arrive à 690Mo, il continue, j'ai même atteint 800 Mo sur 690
14:46.42evryanzDonc y a un truc pas clair
14:47.09evryanzEnfin bon, là je télécharge de chez icedslash, puis ensuite on verra
14:47.17koshie:D
14:47.26Thanatermesis<koshie> the liveboot section? Where ? :o
14:47.27Thanatermesiseltrans
14:47.29Thanatermesisrun eltrans
14:47.42keyraThanatermesis: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
14:47.56koshieOh ok Thanatermesis !
14:48.59nurdyskoshie  il y a qoui de nouveau dans la news version
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14:52.36Thanatermesisnurdys, check the changelog http://studios.elivecd.org/Download/Stable/
14:53.46nurdyscan  i used a elive souce list  with sid souce list ?
14:54.26Thanatermesisis not recommended, your Elive system will lost a good number of features and stability
14:55.17Thanatermesisevryanz,  2010-03-02 15:54:22 (898 KB/s) - `elive_2.0-RC2.iso' saved [723161088/723161088]
14:55.31evryanzStrange
14:55.47Thanatermesis9727c2d25eb40759aa29f9620ee69a84  elive_2.0-RC2.iso
14:55.49Thanatermesisit is correct
14:55.52Thanatermesisyour problem is safari :)
14:56.17evryanzWe'll see what will happen with the other server
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14:58.40koshieRe...
14:58.46nurdysThanatermesis,  yes but i would like to have the laste firefox the last gymp or the last openoffice or the last icedove
14:58.47koshieSaloperie de cochonceté de connexion
14:58.51koshieà la con.
15:00.12Thanatermesisnurdys, why you want to have the last last last instead the usable usable usable ? (stable)
15:00.33Thanatermesisnurdys, well, you can try it but i dont recommend to do that
15:00.44koshie:)
15:00.47koshieIt's Debian after all :D
15:00.59nurdysi use the developement version
15:01.01keyrakoshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
15:01.15koshienurdys, ah :)
15:02.18nurdysso  why you dont put the last openofice is stable
15:02.38evryanzNo, it's testing ^^
15:02.47koshiealors evryanz ?
15:02.49koshieça marche ?
15:02.55evryanzThanatermesis: With the icedslash all is okay
15:03.05evryanzJ'vérifie juste le MD5
15:03.32koshiemais osef, vb :o
15:03.35Thanatermesis<koshie> It's Debian after all :D
15:03.36Thanatermesisyes
15:03.39koshie;)
15:04.32Thanatermesisbut debian has HIS repository for sid
15:04.32ThanatermesisElive has the debian repository for lenny, actually
15:04.32keyraThanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
15:04.32koshieThanatermesis, and we can use the sid ?
15:04.32Thanatermesisif Elive was a repository for SID, then will be totally compatible :)
15:04.32Thanatermesiskoshie, is not very compatible/recommended, but is made in a way that should be the stablest possible
15:04.32Thanatermesislet me try it on a virtual machine
15:04.32koshieSo I can add the repos of sid :)
15:04.37koshieBut you don't have test it
15:06.21evryanzI choose Debian for the system in VMWare?
15:06.31evryanzDebian 5?
15:06.34Thanatermesisyes
15:06.35elmo40Thanatermesis: 2.0?????????????
15:06.47Thanatermesiselmo40, no, the page is "studios" :), but it will be released in 1-2 days ;)
15:06.49elmo40oh, rc2 ;)
15:06.51koshieI've choose linux 2.6.
15:07.04evryanzD'acc
15:07.04koshieevryanz, on l'install ou on laisse en vb ?
15:07.15evryanzMoi je fais le live dans la VM
15:07.21koshieOk, idem
15:07.29koshiepar contre faut dl les sources d'e17
15:07.39nurdyskoshie vous teste  la 2.O ?
15:07.42koshieEt si tu reboot... Prend bien soin de sauvegarder la vb avant de la quitter !
15:07.44koshienurdys, ouais
15:07.51nurdyson peu dl ou
15:07.54koshieJ'ai un petit soucis qui m'empêche de booter par contre.
15:07.56koshienurdys, sur le site? :o
15:08.26koshienurdys, p-ê sur microsoft.com
15:08.27koshiequi sait? ;D
15:08.29elmo40AlexAnteMachina: irssi ROCKS! i dont know why people are stuck in the gui world... taking up all that screen space for borders and buttons... cli is the way to go!
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15:08.46nurdyskoshie,  non me javais pas vu dans developement jetait sur la stable
15:08.46koshieelmo40, i like irssi, but i like xchat too.
15:08.50koshieOk
15:08.59koshieLong le dl des sources, pfiou.
15:09.07koshieje vais me fumer une clope je crois :o
15:09.27evryanzÇa DL aussi chez moi
15:09.42elmo40Thanatermesis: will 2.0 be using squeeze? :D
15:09.48evryanzAh voilà, ça télécharge les traductions
15:09.55koshieevryanz, pause clope
15:09.59nurdysdans  TRois  je suis  pret
15:10.01evryanzOkay
15:10.04nurdystrois heure
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15:10.52Thanatermesiselmo40, no, 2.0 is the result of all the dev and tests in the dev's
15:11.14Thanatermesisif move, then why all these long time tests ? :)
15:11.37elmo402.5?
15:11.38elmo40;)
15:11.48elmo40i am bugging you, dont worry.
15:12.12elmo40did that 2.0 page get edited ok? do you need aything else with better english?
15:12.32Thanatermesiswant to fix anything ?
15:18.48koshiere
15:18.55koshieputain, evryanz ça dl encore :D
15:18.58koshieAu faite tu as jabber ?
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15:19.18koshieThanatermesis, why on elive you have installed skype, a client for msn, irc, but not for jabber? :D
15:19.19elmo40Thanatermesis: i can try to fix spelling
15:19.22elmo40not code :P
15:19.59elmo40skype is installed by default? interesting. and i suppose aMsn. just no pidgin ;)
15:20.31evryanzkoshie: Non
15:20.36Thanatermesiskoshie, no reason, jabber is not very used, the cd size is limited
15:20.37koshieelmo40, I think is better to install a client for every IM.
15:20.48koshieThanatermesis, but pidgin can use MSN AND Jabber
15:20.50koshie:)
15:20.54koshieOr Empathy
15:21.06Thanatermesisbut msn users like amsn interface :)
15:21.15koshieDamned, it's horrible :D
15:21.15nurdyskoshie,  ta combien heure de dl
15:21.17elmo40koshie: so can irssi, but it is not installed (if i remember correctly)
15:21.19koshienurdys, ?
15:21.34nurdyskoshie, tu dl la version 2.0 non?
15:21.37koshieje l'ai
15:22.21nurdyscomment on peut etre prevenu de nouvelle version?
15:23.45koshieEn lisant le site? :o
15:25.45koshieevryanz, ok tant pis.
15:25.47Thanatermesisinfomail
15:26.02keyraThanatermesis: You can suscribe to our Newsletter about stable/development releases and related Stuff here: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/infomail/
15:26.27Thanatermesisnurdys, ^
15:26.54koshieYou speak french Thanatermesis ?
15:27.31Thanatermesisyes
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15:27.47koshieok :)
15:29.44koshieIf I want to install Elive on a virtual machin I need to paye again? :o
15:30.08Thanatermesismmh, aparently
15:30.13koshie:o
15:30.14Thanatermesisis a different machine
15:30.17koshiexD
15:30.40koshieI don't want to paye two times :p
15:30.45koshieI will just fixe my problem
15:30.50koshie(for the multi-boot)
15:32.31Thanatermesisgive me your email
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15:42.03nurdysillume
15:43.03koshieJ'ai la flemme de réparer Elive bordel.
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15:45.04nurdysdans elstran c qoui la difference entre enregistrer et  basculer  la traduction
15:45.23Thanatermesisenregistrer et basculer ?
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15:45.42nurdysoui
15:45.47Thanatermesisou
15:48.07nurdysThanatermesis, oui
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15:52.27nurdysThanatermesis,  comment fonctionne eltrans
15:52.41keyranurdys: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
15:52.51Thanatermesisnurdys, tres facile
15:52.56Thanatermesisje comprend pas ton probleme
15:57.03elmo40Thanatermesis: maybe he didnt do the account properly
15:57.16Thanatermesisi dont understand his problem
15:57.26elmo40neither do i
15:57.29elmo40in either language :P
15:57.47elmo40http://qurl.org/2x0
15:57.55elmo40i like this. 15" touch screen? NICE!
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16:02.11nurdyselmo  where did you creat the account
16:02.52elmo40i dont remember... sorry.
16:02.56elmo40it was a while ago
16:03.01elmo40i think Thanatermesis emailed me :P
16:04.53AlexAnteMachinahey folks
16:05.01AlexAnteMachinathis is awsome: http://tinyurl.com/yz86asm
16:05.06yebyenhey
16:05.23yebyenso if youre usin a liveusb, it's going to remember your wep keys from boot to boot?
16:05.24nurdysi dont understand  when i translate  i just have to save
16:05.29yebyenthats' pretty cool
16:05.38keyrayebyen: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
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16:08.30AlexAnteMachinaelmo40, this Shuttle x50 is nice. But unfortunaltey it comes with intel grafix instead of nvidia.
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16:10.31elmo40so
16:10.35elmo40nothing wrong with intel
16:10.51elmo40though, if it came with the nVidia ION i would be in love with it!
16:10.53yebyeni heard about a new open source driver for nvidia
16:11.05yebyeni got so drunk last night
16:11.13yebyeni have all of these new bruises and cuts now
16:11.20elmo40:P
16:12.16AlexAnteMachinayebyen, so you've heard about that driver last night, too??
16:14.49yebyenit's brand new now isn't it
16:14.58yebyenyeah someone told me about fast tty/x switching
16:15.27yebyenhmm maybe i should get chinese food
16:15.41keyrayebyen: Elive in chinese ? Well... this is a howto for japanese http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml
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16:16.34AlexAnteMachinalol.... as if chinese and japanes would be similar... *gg*
16:17.04AlexAnteMachinai guess spanish and danish are quite similer then, too.
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16:35.09elmo40so is indian and mexican.
16:35.13elmo40but no one is counting
16:38.19Thanatermesissomebody is asking me in PV if im new in Elive :)
16:38.30evryanz:D
16:39.22evryanzThanatermesis: I can't find where is the name for the nurse mode, but "infirmière mode" isn't right, it should be "mode assisté"
16:39.36Thanatermesisevryanz, it has changed to "reparation" mode
16:39.42DammitJimis new
16:39.43Thanatermesisif you see any "nurse" wording anywhere, tell me
16:40.12evryanzThanatermesis: Okay :)
16:40.55elmo40Thanatermesis: dont lie to them, you are new to Elive... we all know that. :P
16:42.36Thanatermesis<Elive_user85_en> are u new 2 elive
16:42.36Thanatermesis<Thanatermesis> no
16:42.36Thanatermesis<Elive_user85_en> how long
16:42.36Thanatermesis<Thanatermesis> mmh, since exists
16:42.36Thanatermesis<Elive_user85_en> wow
16:42.36Thanatermesis<Elive_user85_en> an how long is that
16:42.38Thanatermesis<Thanatermesis> around 7 - 8 years
16:42.56DammitJimThanatermesis, he is asking me questions, too
16:43.06DammitJimI told him to come back to the main room
16:44.05Thanatermesisaparently he don't know much what's that xchat for
16:45.06AlexAnteMachinawell, Thanatermesis i doubt you've used elive about 8 years ago.
16:45.30Thanatermesiswhy not ?
16:45.37AlexAnteMachinain those day there was hardly elctric energy available in spain.
16:45.39AlexAnteMachina:P
16:45.51Thanatermesiswell, i was living on belgium these years :)
16:46.03AlexAnteMachinadoh!
16:46.39AlexAnteMachinaand when you#ve move to spain you also left your old name in blgium.
16:46.42AlexAnteMachina*gg*
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16:47.17DronAn[BY]_eeepcHello world
16:47.32AlexAnteMachinaapt, seen world
16:47.36aptworld <n=david@78.32.229.233> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 325d 2h 38m 28s ago, saying: 'hello wazd'.
16:47.47DronAn[BY]_eeepc))))
16:47.51DronAn[BY]_eeepcBU ga ga
16:50.08DronAn[BY]_eeepcapt, seen taho
16:50.09apttaho <n=taho@kellin.fvds.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 194d 9h 51m 24s ago, saying: 'yebyen: êàê çíàåøü..'.
16:50.48elmo40wow 325 days? 194days? i would go insane not being online in that long ;)
16:51.02elmo40apt: seen roxville
16:51.03aptroxville <~Elive_use@c-71-226-99-49.hsd1.sc.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 8d 2h 8m 58s ago, saying: 'finishing up reinstall, bbl...i hope :)'.
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16:51.23DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
16:51.31alias_dubskoshie, did it work out?
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16:53.27DronAn[BY]_eeepcapt whois
16:53.28aptA modern whois client. URL: http://www.linux.it/~md/software/
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16:53.42Elive_user85_enhello
16:53.55DronAn[BY]_eeepcHello Elive_user35_en
16:54.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcHello Elive_user85_en
16:54.02DronAn[BY]_eeepc))
16:54.05Elive_user85_enhi
16:54.10Elive_user85_en))
16:54.17Elive_user85_enwho r u
16:54.20Elive_user85_en?
16:54.30Elive_user85_endo u work 4 elive?
16:54.30DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
16:54.35DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
16:54.40Elive_user85_en0.o
16:54.51DronAn[BY]_eeepc:D
16:54.55Elive_user85_endo u
16:54.58Elive_user85_en;)
16:55.16DronAn[BY]_eeepcWhat do you mean work?
16:55.31Elive_user85_enare u a developer
16:55.39DronAn[BY]_eeepcOh no
16:55.41DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
16:55.42Elive_user85_en-.-
16:55.46Elive_user85_enlol
16:55.53Elive_user85_enr u boy?
16:56.03DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
16:56.10Elive_user85_enim a boy
16:56.31Elive_user85_enhhhheeeellllllooooo
16:56.35Elive_user85_enr u der
16:56.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcVery happy to know that :D
16:56.43Elive_user85_enlol
16:56.46Elive_user85_enr u
16:57.21Elive_user85_eni hope u  relize ur way older than me
16:57.55Elive_user85_encan u tell me how to get to the public chat
16:58.17DronAn[BY]_eeepcjust joing a chanel you want
16:58.35DronAn[BY]_eeepc#join Help
16:58.42Elive_user85_enhow long have u been on elive?
16:59.10DronAn[BY]_eeepc'/' join
16:59.40Elive_user85_ensrry i dont get it]
16:59.52DronAn[BY]_eeepcfor 1 year already
17:00.07DronAn[BY]_eeepccan u tell me how to get to the public chat
17:00.12DronAn[BY]_eeepc?
17:00.25Elive_user85_enlol
17:00.32Elive_user85_eni asked u that
17:00.43DronAn[BY]_eeepc'/' join
17:00.50Elive_user85_eniv been on 4 just 2 days
17:00.52DronAn[BY]_eeepci answer to u :)
17:01.04Thanatermesis<Elive_user85_en> can u tell me how to get to the public chat
17:01.06Thanatermesisyou are in
17:01.12Elive_user85_enyeh
17:01.18Elive_user85_enme?
17:01.24Thanatermesisyes
17:01.30Thanatermesisyou are now in the Elive public chat
17:01.37Elive_user85_eni am
17:01.39Elive_user85_enhow
17:01.45Elive_user85_entheres no 1 here
17:01.51AlexAnteMachinaWelcome to the public elive channel, Elive_user85_en !!
17:01.56Elive_user85_enomg
17:02.02Elive_user85_enwho r u ppls
17:02.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, are you kidding?
17:02.22Elive_user85_enoh
17:02.23DronAn[BY]_eeepcOr who is this?
17:02.24Elive_user85_ensrry
17:02.26Elive_user85_enno
17:02.39Elive_user85_enits like some1 is private talkin to me
17:03.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
17:03.08DronAn[BY]_eeepc:D
17:03.18AlexAnteMachinalol...
17:03.19Elive_user85_eni think some1 was privating to me
17:03.21Elive_user85_enlol
17:03.26AlexAnteMachinayes... lets get private.
17:03.27Elive_user85_en:D
17:03.31Elive_user85_enhow
17:03.34DronAn[BY]_eeepc:D
17:03.41Elive_user85_ensome1 is doin it again
17:03.51DronAn[BY]_eeepcNo users at right side of this window?
17:03.53AlexAnteMachinao_O ... not me
17:03.57DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
17:04.03DronAn[BY]_eeepcBu ga ga
17:04.03Elive_user85_enlol.
17:04.06ThanatermesisElive_user85_en, you have a list of all the users on this channel in the side of your xchat window, resize this column and you saw them
17:04.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcall are ghosts
17:04.25Elive_user85_enlol
17:04.25Thanatermesiskeyra, are you a ghost ?
17:04.33Elive_user85_enno
17:04.39Elive_user85_enim human
17:04.52DronAn[BY]_eeepcapt, seen ghost
17:04.54aptghost <~45f31851@gateway/web/freenode/x-gmtionkcpekfvxhg> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 4d 8h 34m 34s ago, saying: '1st palm video'.
17:05.07Elive_user85_enokeuy
17:05.13Elive_user85_eni dont get thins
17:05.20Elive_user85_enits so wierd
17:05.23DronAn[BY]_eeepcthat nice
17:05.23Elive_user85_enhello
17:05.26Elive_user85_enlol
17:05.32Elive_user85_enhow old r u
17:05.35Elive_user85_en??????????????????
17:05.37DronAn[BY]_eeepcbe like everybody so
17:06.33DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive_user85_en, identify yourself
17:06.37DronAn[BY]_eeepc:D
17:06.52Elive_user85_enuuuummm how old r u
17:07.02Elive_user85_eni mean
17:07.09Elive_user85_enhow did u do dat
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17:07.31Elive_user53_eshola
17:07.39Elive_user85_enhola
17:07.45keyraElive_user53_es: que tal ?
17:08.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, where all this new users came from? Any news, magazine or so?
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17:08.31DronAn[BY]_eeepchola
17:08.40ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, i dont know... let me check the website statistics...
17:08.44DronAn[BY]_eeepcapt, seen hola
17:08.45apthola <n=hola@79.0.147.129> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 597d 9h 16m 22s ago, saying: 'when kde4 will be the only one desktop manager for kubuntu?'.
17:09.11Thanatermesislol
17:09.18DronAn[BY]_eeepc?
17:09.31Thanatermesislol @ apt
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17:10.19Thanatermesisnot much
17:10.22Thanatermesisdistrowatch basically
17:10.27Thanatermesisjust a bit from:
17:10.29Thanatermesishttp://www.puntogeek.com/2010/02/26/distribuciones-gnulinux-para-netbooks/
17:10.36Thanatermesishttp://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Elive-Download-3180.html
17:10.43DronAn[BY]_eeepckhm :) let's see that
17:10.44Thanatermesishttp://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=147491
17:10.50DronAn[BY]_eeepcKhm
17:10.51DronAn[BY]_eeepcNice
17:11.04Elive_user85_enhello?
17:11.06Elive_user85_enhello
17:11.06Elive_user85_en?
17:11.07Elive_user85_enany one here
17:12.23Elive_user85_enhello
17:12.25Thanatermesisnothing new recently
17:12.28Thanatermesisyes Elive_user85_en
17:12.32Elive_user85_enoh
17:12.41Elive_user85_enevery1s here
17:12.41ThanatermesisElive_user85_en, you can talk with keyra
17:12.47Elive_user85_enhow
17:12.59Thanatermesisjust talking with keyra :)
17:13.07Thanatermesiskerya hello
17:13.13Elive_user85_enkeyra hello
17:13.27keyraElive_user85_en: hi
17:13.34Elive_user85_enoooookkkkkeeeeeeyyyyyy
17:13.39Elive_user85_enhi
17:13.47Elive_user85_enwho is keyra
17:14.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive_user85_en, are you just chat flooder?
17:14.10DronAn[BY]_eeepcapt, seen keyra
17:14.11aptkeyra is currently on #elive (1h 46m 30s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 44s, last said: 'Elive_user85_en: hi'.
17:14.13Thanatermesisis something very helpful for the channel
17:14.19ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, i think that is just very new in xchat
17:14.55AlexAnteMachinalol... Thanatermesis finds keyra so helpful because he's not so often around.
17:15.06DronAn[BY]_eeepc:_
17:15.07DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
17:15.09keyraAlexAnteMachina: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville
17:15.20DronAn[BY]_eeepc:D
17:15.28Elive_user85_enomg
17:15.30Elive_user85_enomg
17:15.37Elive_user85_enthis is not fun
17:15.37DronAn[BY]_eeepckeyra, what about Elive
17:15.44Elive_user85_enidont know
17:15.47Elive_user85_enbeats me
17:16.12Thanatermesiskeyra is helpful, but maybe needs a better database
17:16.22Elive_user85_enis dis how u do priv talk
17:16.26Elive_user85_ennop
17:16.34Elive_user85_en(l)
17:16.41Elive_user85_en(h)
17:17.01AlexAnteMachinawonders what Elive_user85_en is doing
17:17.08Elive_user85_en0ll0l0l0l
17:17.14Elive_user85_enomg
17:17.24Elive_user85_enwat kinda stuff is dia
17:17.28Elive_user85_endis*
17:20.45AlexAnteMachinahey folk
17:20.49AlexAnteMachinadoh...
17:21.07AlexAnteMachinahey folks... guess i know why he's acting that way.
17:21.17AlexAnteMachinaHe seems to be 13.
17:21.28Elive_user85_enlol im here 2
17:21.37AlexAnteMachinasure you are.
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17:21.42Elive_user85_enokey
17:21.44Elive_user85_enbrb
17:22.11AlexAnteMachinagets afraid
17:22.26ragecryxHello ppl!!!
17:23.46AlexAnteMachinaapt, seen ppl
17:23.47aptAlexAnteMachina: i haven't seen 'ppl'
17:23.54AlexAnteMachinahi ragecryx
17:23.59ragecryxhi AlexAnteMachina :)
17:25.27AlexAnteMachinasup mr. ragecryx ?
17:26.42ragecryxAlexAnteMachina, testing my new Elive installation
17:27.05ragecryxwanna see a screenie ?
17:27.54AlexAnteMachinano
17:27.57AlexAnteMachinathanks
17:28.04ragecryxok :)
17:30.13AlexAnteMachinaI'm quite lame today.
17:30.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcragecryx, pate them on host and show us link :)
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17:30.45DronAn[BY]_eeepc*paste
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17:31.14ragecryxDronAn[BY]_eeepc, i think the wallpaper fits extremely well http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcximg/4401112005/sizes/o/
17:31.28keyraragecryx: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
17:33.08DronAn[BY]_eeepcKhm :) Nice wallpaper
17:33.12ragecryx:)
17:33.14DronAn[BY]_eeepcI like this kind
17:34.39Wizardhi
17:34.43AlexAnteMachinayes its really nice
17:34.46DronAn[BY]_eeepcragecryx, ecomorph is on?
17:34.53ragecryxYes :)
17:34.55DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, Hello
17:35.00keyraDronAn[BY]_eeepc: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
17:35.02ragecryxhi Wizard
17:35.06Wizardздравстшуй DronAn[BY]_eeepc
17:35.09Wizardhi ragecryx
17:35.20WizardDAMN KEYBOARD
17:35.23DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, Здравствуй
17:35.34Wizardyeah, i know
17:35.36DronAn[BY]_eeepcЕсли не шутишь :)
17:36.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcДа, да, я знаю, что ты знаешь. Я просто поздоровался с тобой тоже на русском
17:36.07Wizardi would like to meet prick who placed ш on w and в on v
17:36.09DronAn[BY]_eeepcЖ)
17:36.13DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
17:36.38Wizardah, ok
17:36.52DronAn[BY]_eeepcI'm not using this layout
17:37.13DronAn[BY]_eeepci'm yousing rus winkeys
17:37.18DronAn[BY]_eeepc*using
17:37.27DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is йцукенгшщз
17:37.36Wizardlol
17:37.46DronAn[BY]_eeepctop line of keyboard
17:38.14DronAn[BY]_eeepcAnd i'm typing by 10 my fingers, not looking at the keyboard
17:38.55DronAn[BY]_eeepcSo, i do not care about where is the leters
17:39.17DronAn[BY]_eeepcI even do not know where they are :( My fingers know that
17:40.46DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, I did this courses for Russian typing, now i want do this for english http://ergosolo.ru/
17:41.45DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is very nice now. I can do it online, with web browser
17:42.01DronAn[BY]_eeepcNot need M$ anymore for it
17:43.29Wizard:D
17:43.34alias_dubsis away: {Errands}
17:45.18WizardDronAn[BY]_eeepc: will be hard :)
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17:47.10DronAn[BY]_eeepcNo
17:47.27DronAn[BY]_eeepcit is easy. Very good method
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17:54.10Elive_user67_enhello
17:54.25Elive_user67_eni m on elive on virtual machine and laaaag
17:57.14Thanatermesisuse it on a real machine :)
17:57.32Elive_user67_enlol Thanatermesis why not
17:57.40Elive_user67_enbut first i want leanr efl
17:57.47Elive_user67_enand make my own application
17:57.57Elive_user67_enbut how to begin?
17:58.54Elive_user67_enThanatermesis, i see u will out the 2.0 of elive, but u will stay the efl release?
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18:00.30ThanatermesisElive_user67_en, this is a good start :) http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoEFL
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18:05.18WizardEFL sucks
18:05.20Wizard:P
18:05.32keyraWizard: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
18:09.46AlexAnteMachinaWizard, your agression scares me
18:09.53AlexAnteMachina:(
18:11.22Wizardagression?
18:11.42AlexAnteMachinaagainst efl, yes
18:12.11Wizardbut it really sucks
18:12.22Wizardthis project will be dead with e17, soon
18:12.48AlexAnteMachinaahm... isnt efl the library e17 is based on?
18:14.04Elive_user85_enhello
18:14.12AlexAnteMachinahi
18:14.19Elive_user85_enhi
18:14.31Elive_user85_enppls asked u y i was acting wierd
18:14.34Elive_user85_en???
18:14.52AlexAnteMachinano
18:14.55Elive_user85_enoh
18:15.00AlexAnteMachinayou've confused them
18:15.04Elive_user85_enu wanted 2 know
18:15.09Elive_user85_enlo
18:15.14Elive_user85_enwait
18:15.21Elive_user85_enwho is apt
18:16.07Elive_user85_enhello?;
18:16.51AlexAnteMachinaWizard,  isnt efl the library e17 is based on?
18:16.59Elive_user85_enhello
18:17.00Elive_user85_eny
18:17.05Elive_user85_enwho is apt
18:17.31AlexAnteMachinaapt, who are you?
18:17.33aptAlexAnteMachina: what are you talking about?
18:17.33Elive_user85_enhello
18:17.44Elive_user85_enwho is apt
18:17.54AlexAnteMachinasee, Elive_user85_en ... just ask yourselfe
18:18.06Elive_user85_endont get it
18:18.09Elive_user85_enwho is he
18:18.34AlexAnteMachinainfobot
18:18.43Elive_user85_enoh thanx
18:18.46Elive_user85_enbrb
18:24.07WizardAlexAnteMachina: it is
18:24.19Wizardefl is the side project of e1
18:24.21Wizarde17
18:24.51DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, Ubuntu start with efl now
18:24.57DronAn[BY]_eeepctoo
18:26.42AlexAnteMachinaand samsung is using it too.
18:26.49AlexAnteMachinaso why do you think it will die?
18:26.54DronAn[BY]_eeepcCanonical developer Jamie Bennett announced in his blog post The New UI for ARM Based Ubuntu Devices how Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) enabled rich graphical user interfaces even on non-3D-accelerated ARM devices.
18:27.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcEnlightenment Foundation Libraries were conceived and developed with performance in mind. Started in 2000, the current incarnation was designed based on previous experience with Imlib and Imlib2, libraries known to be quite fast. Over the past 10 years, the API changed a lot to be easier to use, but the performance impact of each and every change was carefully considered and benchmarked using the Expedite tool.
18:27.21WizardWHAT?!
18:27.29DronAn[BY]_eeepcEFL
18:28.03DronAn[BY]_eeepcWhy it die?
18:28.16DronAn[BY]_eeepcit is E base
18:28.38AlexAnteMachinaWizard, we want to know why you think efl will die.
18:28.50Wizardefl is awful, unstable and allmost unmaintained
18:29.02DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
18:29.11DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is stable for me
18:29.17AlexAnteMachinaubuntu is starting to use it and samsung is using it too.
18:29.29DronAn[BY]_eeepcthink maybe i'm wrong...?
18:29.38AlexAnteMachinamaybe Wizard is
18:30.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcLet's ask Thana.../.
18:30.16DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
18:30.35DronAn[BY]_eeepcHe is BOSS here :)
18:30.46WizardAlexAnteMachina: and my mom uses windows, my bank does, my chief does
18:30.57Wizarddoes it make it stable?
18:31.00keyraWizard: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems
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18:31.46Elive_user85_enbak
18:31.47Elive_user85_enppls
18:31.55Elive_user85_enwho runs ubuntu
18:31.58Wizardi know e17 is beautifull and some builds are quite stable
18:32.04Wizarddoes
18:32.08Elive_user85_enhey can u help me
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18:32.27Wizardi'm not sure, elive != ubuntu
18:32.30Wizardbut shoot
18:32.35Wizardat least they'll punish me
18:32.41Elive_user85_eni have a error 16 or 18 on ubuntu 9.10 an 9.04
18:32.49Elive_user85_eni need help
18:32.52Elive_user85_en!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:33.02DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive_user85_en, Oo
18:33.07Elive_user85_enlol
18:33.12DronAn[BY]_eeepcAsk on ubuntu
18:33.21Elive_user85_eni run 2 os on mi other hard drive
18:33.26DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive_user85_en, r u bot?
18:33.31Elive_user85_enno
18:33.34DronAn[BY]_eeepc:D
18:33.35Elive_user85_enim human
18:33.38Elive_user85_enlol
18:33.41DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
18:33.43AlexAnteMachinar u sure?
18:33.46AlexAnteMachinahow do you know?
18:33.47Elive_user85_enyh
18:33.55Elive_user85_enhow do ik wwat
18:33.56DronAn[BY]_eeepckeyra, whatis ubuntu
18:34.04alias_dubsis back
18:34.08DronAn[BY]_eeepcapt, whatis ubuntu
18:34.10keyraDronAn[BY]_eeepc: search in google!
18:34.16DronAn[BY]_eeepcOh
18:34.17Elive_user85_enalthough im 13 ik how to dill wath OS's
18:34.24DronAn[BY]_eeepckeyra, thank's :)
18:34.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcdebian
18:34.44Elive_user85_enyh
18:34.49Wizardlol
18:34.55Elive_user85_enlol;]
18:35.10WizardElive_user85_en: error 18 during boot?
18:35.24keyraWizard: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb
18:36.09Elive_user85_enyh
18:36.13Elive_user85_endat error
18:36.21Elive_user85_enbut
18:36.28Elive_user85_enit says 16 somtimes
18:36.38Elive_user85_enwizard
18:36.42Elive_user85_enr u der?
18:37.38alias_dubsyou should go to ubuntu chan
18:38.02alias_dubsyou are more likely to get an answer ;)
18:38.23Elive_user85_encan u type a link
18:38.26Elive_user85_enplz
18:38.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcroute:        62.114.0.0/16
18:38.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcdescr:        Nile Online
18:38.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcdescr:        For any abuse complain contact abuse@nile-online.com
18:38.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcorigin:       AS15475
18:38.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcmnt-by:       O-MAHMOUD
18:38.37DronAn[BY]_eeepcОо
18:38.52Elive_user85_enlol
18:38.56Elive_user85_enr u muslim
18:38.57AlexAnteMachinaDronAn[BY]_eeepc, what are you doing?
18:39.13DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is where he is from :)
18:39.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
18:39.22Elive_user85_enoh
18:39.41Wizardyawns
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18:40.08WizardEgypt?
18:40.39Elive_user85_enno
18:40.43Elive_user85_enim in egypt
18:40.48Elive_user85_enbut im american
18:40.54DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
18:41.06Elive_user85_enlol
18:41.31DronAn[BY]_eeepcWhat are you doing in africa?
18:42.17DronAn[BY]_eeepclay down on red sea? :)
18:42.28Elive_user85_enlol
18:42.32Elive_user85_enim a muslim
18:42.34Elive_user85_eni
18:42.38Elive_user85_eni
18:42.52Wizard:D
18:42.55DronAn[BY]_eeepcthat's ok
18:43.00Elive_user85_eni am studying my reiligon here :)
18:43.09DronAn[BY]_eeepcOh ok
18:43.09Wizardin Egypt?!
18:43.11DronAn[BY]_eeepcnice
18:43.12Elive_user85_enyh
18:43.18Elive_user85_enits a muslim place
18:43.25Elive_user85_enlots of them
18:43.29Wizardlol, i also want to be a muslim
18:43.34Elive_user85_enim goin 2 america this summer
18:43.35DronAn[BY]_eeepcNice trip. Are you gonna stay there?
18:43.42Elive_user85_enno
18:43.43DronAn[BY]_eeepcoh ok
18:44.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is to hot there. Is not it?
18:44.33Wizard-20°C :D
18:44.42DronAn[BY]_eeepcHave you ride camel?
18:44.50DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, :D
18:44.57DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is rain here
18:45.02DronAn[BY]_eeepcanyway
18:45.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut tomorow it will about -15
18:45.25Wizardhehe, that was the lowest temperature here
18:45.32Wizardand of cours my car broke :D
18:45.39DronAn[BY]_eeepcDisel?
18:45.41Wizardcourse*
18:45.43Wizardnope, battery
18:45.46Wizard:P
18:45.47DronAn[BY]_eeepcAh
18:45.51DronAn[BY]_eeepcnp
18:46.00DronAn[BY]_eeepcit was too old :)
18:46.12DronAn[BY]_eeepcBuy a newone
18:46.14Wizardit ist still too old :D
18:47.12alias_dubsDronAn[BY]_eeepc, -15? where are you from ?
18:47.29Wizardmy friend helped me with starting engine (cabels and second car's battery trick), i made 3 rounds across the city and the battery is like new :P
18:47.40DronAn[BY]_eeepcalias_dubs, Belarus :)
18:48.05DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, for the nex day :D
18:48.10alias_dubsI don't know if survive so low t° ;)
18:48.18alias_dubs* I could
18:48.20Wizard:D
18:48.23DronAn[BY]_eeepcOh it is nice temp
18:48.31DronAn[BY]_eeepcSki and so on
18:48.52alias_dubsyep of course there is a bright side
18:48.52Wizardthere where -30 somewhere in Poland month ago
18:48.57Wizardfor 3 days
18:49.03DronAn[BY]_eeepcAs here :)
18:49.18Wizardyeah, because it was near Belarussian border
18:49.24DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
18:49.36alias_dubsin Belgium -15 is like the low peak of the winter
18:49.44DronAn[BY]_eeepcI think half of europe had the same t
18:49.46alias_dubsa few days
18:49.46Wizardcold wind from the east :D
18:50.05alias_dubsnow it's around 5-8
18:50.18Wizard-20 is to cold for me :D
18:50.22DronAn[BY]_eeepc:) spring
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18:50.40DronAn[BY]_eeepc-20 is not bad without wind
18:50.48Wizardyeah
18:50.56DronAn[BY]_eeepcwind is bustard :)
18:51.25Wizardok, stop, people would think that we're from Syberia or something
18:51.45WizardSiberia
18:52.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcSyberia it is nices place to live wher
18:52.07DronAn[BY]_eeepcwhere
18:52.14AlexAnteMachinalol
18:52.18DronAn[BY]_eeepcClear, nice,
18:52.30alias_dubsnice for nolife ;)
18:52.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcvery fresh air
18:52.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcOo
18:52.49alias_dubsno overheating problems
18:52.52AlexAnteMachinanice for some weeks.
18:53.06AlexAnteMachinayes. perfect for large server-farms
18:53.12Wizardhmm, girl who teaches in my russian class comes from Siberia
18:53.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is too hot at summer in siberia
18:53.20Wizardfrom Krasnoyarsk, or something
18:53.20DronAn[BY]_eeepc+30 :(
18:53.34alias_dubsu can overclock you cpu/gpu w/o liquid cooling
18:53.39Wizardlol
18:53.43DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
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18:53.56AlexAnteMachinayup.... just take away the roof
18:53.59Wizardfigyelem!
18:54.09evryanzWizard: Привет :p
18:54.21Wizardпривет evryanz
18:54.25AlexAnteMachinaI got friends who lived in Syberia.
18:54.30DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut in a few years we all gotta go in Siberia
18:54.38Wizardwhy?
18:54.47DronAn[BY]_eeepcПривет evryanz
18:54.55DronAn[BY]_eeepcWizard, 2012 :)
18:55.00Wizardprepares google translate
18:55.05evryanz:D
18:55.08Wizardbuahahaha
18:55.17AlexAnteMachinagoogle translate is EVIL
18:55.21Wizardyeah it is
18:55.22DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
18:55.54AlexAnteMachinagoogle said they would not do evil. But google translated proofs they lied.
18:55.54Wizardbut it does pretty good translations between slavian languages
18:56.16alias_dubshi evryanz
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19:02.54Wizard.cl
19:03.07WizardChile?
19:03.56Wizardyup ^^
19:04.04Wizardno i gdzie wszyscy poszliście?
19:05.02alias_dubs\me cooking
19:05.02alias_dubscooking
19:05.02Wizardah, ok
19:05.45alias_dubsalways changing keyboard, never get used to one keymap ;)
19:06.03Wizardlol
19:06.10Wizardtry polish
19:06.15Wizardit has ą and ł
19:06.18Wizardpretty cool
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19:27.06AlexAnteMachinaNow testing pidgin
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19:30.05Wizardit sucks ;)
19:30.19keyraWizard: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
19:30.58evryanzsecretly installs iSpy on keyra's computer
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19:35.20Wizard:)
19:35.32Wizarddo you think she cames by naked?
19:36.16evryanzWizard: Just a really random slap-script
19:36.44evryanzWant an example?
19:38.14alias_dubsevryanz, don't delete keyra's itune db ;)
19:38.19evryanz:D
19:38.22evryanzmakes keyra watch the IMDb Bottom 100
19:38.23evryanzjabs keyra with System Software 1.0
19:38.26evryanzmakes keyra read the Windows ME user guide
19:38.28evryanzbangs keyra with a magnificient Mac Pro
19:38.42evryanz:]
19:38.48alias_dubs\o/
19:39.21evryanzVery handy script :)
19:39.54alias_dubsI 'll do one of mine...
19:40.04alias_dubsmakes keyra using itunes
19:40.10evryanz:D
19:40.15alias_dubsthen you can run yours ;)
19:40.22evryanznudges alias_dubs with a cryptic crowbar
19:41.16alias_dubsouch!
19:41.16evryanz:p
19:45.36Wizardlol System Software 1.0
19:45.41Wizardrotfl
19:49.25Wizardhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apple_Macintosh_Desktop.png
19:49.34Wizardehh, some things will never be outdated
19:50.13Wizardi still can't belive for how long is 'desktop' concept used
19:51.46Wizardand i can't imagine how am i used to it
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20:35.57koshiehi / salut
20:36.43Wizardhi / cześć
20:39.58nurdyskoshie,  je voulais savoir la version developement et aussi payante
20:40.18koshieJe crois oui.
20:40.27koshieWizard, Polish ?
20:40.34nurdysta payer ?
20:40.35alias_dubsnon
20:40.48koshienurdys, perso oui, pas sûr que c'était obligé.
20:40.49Wizardkoshie: yeah
20:40.51alias_dubsla dev n'est pas payant mais tu peux faire un don
20:41.01koshieWizard, My mother is polish :D
20:41.04alias_dubsalors l'install koshie?
20:41.08alias_dubstout est ok?
20:41.13nurdysmais comment je fait pour obtenir le module
20:41.15koshiealias_dubs, pas disponible dans GRUB2.
20:41.22koshienurdys, essaie de l'installer, tu verra :)
20:41.27nurdyskoshie
20:41.29koshieIl t'explique
20:41.29koshienurdys,
20:41.32nurdysje suis decu
20:41.35koshiePar ?
20:41.46Wizardkoshie: mine too :D
20:41.47nurdysau moment on je doit dl le module
20:42.03nurdysil me demande  mon numero de carte
20:42.04nurdysetout
20:42.28koshieDemande à Thanatermesis.
20:43.09alias_dubsp-e pcq la dev. est en RC mais c'est etonnant quand meme
20:44.06alias_dubsWizard, lol
20:46.06nurdysThanatermesis,  tu est la
20:46.21nurdysenplus je lance pas appartir du cd
20:46.28nurdysfait un ugrade
20:46.49alias_dubs?
20:47.08nurdysavec la fonction upgrade avec iso
20:47.10nurdyssur le pc
20:47.24alias_dubsah oui juste j'avais oubliè cette fonctionnalité
20:48.18alias_dubsc'est quoi la différence entre faire ça et un aptitude full-upgrade?
20:48.32keyraalias_dubs: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
20:49.14alias_dubsthk keyra (pour une fois;))
20:51.17nurdyskeyro do you have a solution to download the module
20:51.50nurdyskeyra,
20:52.01alias_dubskeyra is a bot
20:52.15keyraalias_dubs: you think so?
20:52.19Pacmakeyra is bad boot
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20:59.40nurdysno body have a idear
21:06.19alias_dubsI'd do an aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade (i dare you keyra!)
21:06.33keyraalias_dubs: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
21:07.10alias_dubsnurdys,  what's your current version?
21:07.11Wizardnurdys: idear?
21:07.32alias_dubsidea ;)
21:08.02alias_dubshe's upgrading via iso and is to pay to download the module
21:08.12nurdysalias_dubs,  1.9.52
21:08.16keyraalias_dubs: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
21:10.31alias_dubsnurdys, no so many changes then, i guess it's safe to upgrade via aptitude
21:11.28nurdysalias_dubs,  linux elive 2.6.30.9 and you
21:11.59alias_dubsme too
21:14.19nurdysalias_dubs,  you tryc the fullupgrade
21:14.52alias_dubsyes i upgrade regularly
21:16.30alias_dubsbut lately not a lot of update as the last dev. versions were already very stable
21:16.59nurdysdid you have  the openoffice4
21:17.01nurdys3
21:17.43Wizardcrap :/
21:17.51Wizardi still get linker error
21:18.32alias_dubsno 2.4, i guess it will with the next dev.
21:18.37alias_dubs*come
21:19.07alias_dubsas after the 2.0 the developement version will be based on debian testing
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21:48.40DronAn[BY]_eeepcWho knows about this thing?
21:49.31DronAn[BY]_eeepcTry enter to another system (Elive) by ssh. Fail some try.... How i can't connect to it
21:49.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcHow to fix?
21:50.11DronAn[BY]_eeepc*Now can't connect
21:50.21DronAn[BY]_eeepcHow to fix it?
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21:52.08alias_dubsDronAn[BY]_eeepc, what are you talking about?
21:52.24nurdys<PROTECTED>
21:52.24nurdys<nurdys> i have a erro
21:52.24nurdys<nurdys> An error has been found in the installation step, it is possible that you do not have sufficient space left on your harddisk. You need around 3 GB minimum for a standard install of an Elive system. If you have free space, please report the bug.
21:52.24nurdys<nurdys> Another possible cause will be that the union module has segfaulted, if this is the case just reboot the computer and try again, the union layer is very delicate
21:52.38keyranurdys: http://bugs.elivecd.org
21:52.59Thanatermesisnurdys, and you have space ?
21:53.38Thanatermesisreboot and try again
21:53.40nurdysyes
21:53.57Thanatermesisnurdys, what's your disks structure ?
21:54.00Thanatermesissizes, partitions, etc
21:54.07nurdysi used the full disk for elive
21:54.42nurdys2 Go for the swap
21:55.03nurdys147 for the /
21:55.34nurdysThanatermesis,
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22:01.42nurdysThanatermesis,  ??
22:02.15DronAn[BY]_eeepcnurdys, have you rebooted?
22:02.21nurdysyes
22:02.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcMd5 summ is allright?
22:03.31Thanatermesissame problem ?
22:04.23nurdysyes
22:04.44nurdysi try to put the iso on a cd ?
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22:09.28nurdysThanatermesis,  why did you changed the system to have wallper an theme
22:09.46Thanatermesishu ?
22:09.54Thanatermesisnurdys, which filesystem you choose ?
22:10.23nurdysi cant install the version i try to burn a cd
22:11.01nurdysi talk about wallpape
22:11.46nurdysbefore  you have a option to have more theme and more wallpaper why  did you stop it
22:11.49nurdysThanatermesis,
22:12.00keyranurdys: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
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22:16.07Thanatermesisi dont understand what you mean about the wallpaper
22:16.11Thanatermesisim more worried aobut hte installer
22:16.19Thanatermesisit needs to be perfect, stalbe, working
22:16.24Thanatermesisi have the versions ready for the release tomorrow
22:16.30Thanatermesisnurdys, which filesystem you choose ?
22:20.03DronAn[BY]_eeepcWhat walpaper option Oo
22:20.40DronAn[BY]_eeepcnurdys, ping
22:21.08DronAn[BY]_eeepcCan you chose Automatic install?
22:21.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, and what version he is on?
22:22.05Thanatermesisrc2 i think
22:23.53DronAn[BY]_eeepcOkh :) I never knew that we have it :)
22:25.47DronAn[BY]_eeepcAnd sorry, I can't even download it now, I'm very limited with internet trafic here in belarus :(
22:26.33alias_dubsi can try if you want Thanatermesis
22:26.40alias_dubsi'm on reiser4
22:26.54nurdysi burn a cd
22:27.02nurdysi  try to installed it
22:27.05nurdyswith the cd
22:28.48Thanatermesismmh, im not sure that the cd will change anything
22:29.12alias_dubs25' of download
22:30.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, can i have a free ticket for 2.0? :D
22:31.40alias_dubsThanatermesis, if you upgrade from dev. to the new stable, you have to donate right?
22:32.14Thanatermesisyes
22:32.25alias_dubsbut not for the rc?
22:33.45alias_dubsthen is it a problem for the stable release tomorrow,
22:34.10alias_dubscause you have to donate anyway
22:34.13Thanatermesisrc too
22:34.22Thanatermesisrc is release-candidate, so just like the 2.0
22:34.23alias_dubsmakes sense to mee
22:34.49alias_dubsbut it is the what nurdys is complaining about if i'm right
22:35.01DronAn[BY]_eeepcoh maybe
22:35.09DronAn[BY]_eeepcbut i think no
22:35.25Thanatermesisno, is not related
22:35.29DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt would be another error with module
22:36.34Thanatermesisi dont think that has any relation with the module
22:36.39alias_dubsoh ok he was complaining about that before but now there is another error
22:36.42alias_dubs<nurdys> au moment on je doit dl le module
22:36.43alias_dubs<nurdys> il me demande  mon numero de carte
22:36.43alias_dubs<nurdys> etout
22:36.43alias_dubs<koshie> Demande à Thanatermesis.
22:37.06alias_dubsi don't know if you you speak french
22:37.50alias_dubsbut he just says that when he want to download the module, the require his card number, bla bha
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22:38.08Thanatermesisthat is done
22:38.12ThanatermesisElive_user17_fr = nurdys ?
22:38.15alias_dubsok
22:38.19Elive_user17_fryes
22:38.23Thanatermesisok do this
22:38.28Thanatermesiswhat verison of Elive ?
22:38.29Elive_user17_fri start the installation
22:38.35Thanatermesisno, stop it
22:38.38Elive_user17_frrc2
22:39.10Thanatermesisopen a terminal from root, and run "eliveinstaller", then when you got the error, paste me all the contents of the terminal in a paste-bin website
22:39.16keyraThanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
22:39.18Thanatermesisand do not reboot or do anything, wait that ill check it so that do the next test
22:40.07Elive_user17_frThanatermesis,  the upgrade give me a error
22:40.15Thanatermesiswhat upgrade ?
22:40.26Elive_user17_frthe  fonction upgrade
22:40.40Elive_user17_frso   i pu the iso  on a dvd
22:41.00Thanatermesiswhat function upgrade ?
22:41.08Thanatermesisof which thing ?
22:41.19Elive_user17_frwhe you have  elive  
22:41.40Elive_user17_frwhere you hae already elive on you computer  you can install  the new  version
22:41.48DronAn[BY]_eeepcWhole Elive he want to upgrade
22:41.54keyraElive_user17_fr: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
22:42.39alias_dubsThanatermesis, i'll try the upgrade now too
22:42.45alias_dubssee ya in a bit
22:42.49Elive_user17_frim on  the live cd to the rc2 did you want i tryc  something ?
22:43.47Elive_user17_frThanatermesis,  ?
22:44.18Thanatermesisi have tried it before and it has worked
22:44.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcElive_user17_fr, You do not realy need to be in LiveMode
22:44.41ThanatermesisElive_user17_fr, show me the result of "fdisk -l", see first if your hard disks are mounted
22:44.54Thanatermesiswell, the result of "df" better
22:45.32DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, we need this kind of testing tool in Elive
22:46.03Thanatermesiswhat tool ?
22:46.04DronAn[BY]_eeepcset of needed tests for the new in linux
22:46.27DronAn[BY]_eeepcto make theyr live easier :)
22:46.39Elive_user17_frwhat  is the command to copited the terminal
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22:46.49DronAn[BY]_eeepcgui tool to do those fdisks and so on
22:46.53keyraElive_user17_fr: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
22:47.06DronAn[BY]_eeepcYes
22:47.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcJust like open the 'TOOL' chose df (for ex.)
22:47.42DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
22:47.55alias_dubsThanatermesis, I tried to upgrade via .iso but when i reboot it tells me
22:48.01DronAn[BY]_eeepcThan it is in pastebean :)
22:48.15alias_dubscannot mount SquashFS on /dev/sda6
22:48.25alias_dubsor something like that
22:48.38ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, we have it, it is called nurse mode :)
22:49.00Thanatermesisalias_dubs, o_O'
22:49.02DronAn[BY]_eeepcNurse is repare :)
22:49.07DronAn[BY]_eeepcand it is not in Livemode
22:49.10Thanatermesisalias_dubs, it has worked for me some minutes ago that i have tested it
22:49.13Thanatermesisalias_dubs, is your md5 ok ?
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22:49.27keyraThanatermesis: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5
22:49.30DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, different mirrors
22:49.40ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, what you mean is not possible, there's a thousand of tools, do you want to saw them all ? press tab in the terminal
22:50.17Thanatermesiskeyra copypaste
22:50.25DronAn[BY]_eeepcI know in terminal, but the ppl do not know and do not want now them in terminal :)
22:50.31keyraThanatermesis: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
22:50.32ThanatermesisElive_user17_fr, ^
22:50.45DronAn[BY]_eeepcBut we need only few :)
22:51.08ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, i mean that there's a lot of tools, is not possible to summarize all them all, there's not "at test", the tests are just adapted to every situation
22:52.02DronAn[BY]_eeepclike version, dfdisk, lspci, lsusb and few more
22:52.31DronAn[BY]_eeepcIt is for the next dev :)
22:52.59DronAn[BY]_eeepcOr
22:53.41DronAn[BY]_eeepcbetter to have some text log generated all the time elive installed or loaded
22:53.49Thanatermesiswhere Elive_user17_fr has go ??
22:53.55Thanatermesistired
22:53.57DronAn[BY]_eeepcreboot
22:54.05Thanatermesisreboot ? i have not say reboot
22:54.09Thanatermesisi have say "show me 'df'"
22:54.27Thanatermesiswtf
22:54.32DronAn[BY]_eeepci think so reboot
22:54.35Thanatermesishow i can solve any problem on that way ?
22:54.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcor he is tired more than you :)
22:54.46Thanatermesisi dont think so
22:55.44alias_dubsThanatermesis, the md5 is not good
22:55.56alias_dubssorry if i scared you
22:56.13Thanatermesiswell, that's good to know :()
22:56.15Thanatermesis:)
22:56.18Thanatermesiswhich mirror have you used, alias_dubs ?
22:56.44alias_dubsIcedslash
22:56.52Thanatermesisicedslash is a very good one
22:57.00Thanatermesisrun "ls -l" in the iso file
22:57.39DronAn[BY]_eeepcThanatermesis, not realy :(
22:57.52Thanatermesisthis is the size that should have, alias_dubs  723161088
22:57.55Thanatermesisyours ?
22:58.01DronAn[BY]_eeepcI and my friend not downloading from there
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22:58.12ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, not from icedslash ?
22:58.16ThanatermesisElive_user17_fr, what does "df" ?
22:58.27DronAn[BY]_eeepcI use Wizard's mirror
22:58.29ThanatermesisDronAn[BY]_eeepc, icedslash is hte most reliable mirror that we have
22:58.38DronAn[BY]_eeepcNever have pain with tis
22:59.07Elive_user17_fr<Elive_user17_fr> undev 1024 782 9448 8% /dev
22:59.07DronAn[BY]_eeepcshow space
22:59.07Elive_user17_fr<Elive_user17_fr> tmpfs 1036584 4 1036580 1%/dev/shm
22:59.07Elive_user17_fr<Elive_user17_fr> rootfs 1865856 58308 1807548 4% /
22:59.07Elive_user17_fr<Elive_user17_fr> /dev/hda 706212 706210 0 100% elive/.mnt/cdroom
22:59.07Elive_user17_fr<Elive_user17_fr> /dev/sda2 154741384 32840 1547708544 1% /mnt/installing
22:59.08Elive_user17_fr<Elive_user17_fr> Thanatermesis,
22:59.10Elive_user17_frThanatermesis,
22:59.30DronAn[BY]_eeepcShow free space
22:59.51ThanatermesisElive_user17_fr, ok, run the installer from a root terminal and if you got the errors, paste me all the contents of the terminal in a paste-bin website
23:00.05keyraThanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
23:00.20Elive_user17_fri used a dvd and he worked
23:00.42Thanatermesisand the upgrade mode has not worked ?
23:00.57Elive_user17_fryes
23:01.04Thanatermesisvery strange, it has worked for me in my test... mmh
23:01.10Thanatermesisand alexantemachina always use it
23:01.25Thanatermesisalias_dubs, do not remove your downloaded iso, we can recover it, what's the size that shows "ls -l" ?
23:01.55alias_dubsdoesnt show me the size acutally...
23:01.59Elive_user17_frit was bizarre becausse
23:02.09Elive_user17_frnow  my install was finished
23:02.32Elive_user17_frbut she ask me the  question aboot the root  password and the user
23:03.13Thanatermesisyou have selected a "clean install" ?
23:03.28Elive_user17_frshe found the next version and she prommised to upgraded it
23:03.29Thanatermesisalias_dubs, in a terminal in the location of your iso file, run "ls -l"
23:03.49ThanatermesisElive_user17_fr, and now is asking for the root password ? that not has much sense
23:05.00alias_dubsof course i understood you told to go in the .iso
23:05.16alias_dubsso i mounted it, i don't even know
23:05.27alias_dubswell the file is completely fucked up
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23:05.37Elive_user17_frhe dont saved the user  i have to create  when you used the upgrade ?
23:05.43alias_dubs42863278
23:06.18Elive_user17_frThanatermesis,  i reboot the pc to finished the  installation
23:06.35Thanatermesisalias_dubs, only 42 mb ? remove it and download again
23:07.12alias_dubsyes indeed
23:07.29alias_dubsi should have checked
23:08.11Thanatermesisyes, always check md5
23:08.25keyraThanatermesis: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5
23:08.39alias_dubshave you just add the rc3?
23:09.05Thanatermesismmmh, Elive_user17_fr has got an error on this previous installation, that should have made his installed system "semi-installed" and then in a new install was considered like a new one
23:09.16Thanatermesisalias_dubs, yes, use RC3 instead
23:09.26alias_dubsok
23:09.38Thanatermesisthere's not really changes, just updated pacakages and this one is used for 2.0 (just copying it)
23:09.47Thanatermesisso RC3 is the real 2.0 ;)
23:09.56alias_dubsnice
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23:10.26nurdysi cant see the  what chaged about my last version
23:10.38Thanatermesisconfused
23:10.58Thanatermesisnurdys, what happend with your install ?
23:11.09nurdysnothing it working
23:11.28Thanatermesislol, that doesn't mean much
23:11.34alias_dubsyeah but you had already a relatively recent version nurdys
23:12.01Thanatermesisstep by step
23:12.03Thanatermesiswhat's the problem ?
23:12.15nurdysthe upgrade doest work
23:12.16nurdyslol
23:12.45nurdysalias_dubs,  you try ?
23:13.04alias_dubsi have to re-download it
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23:13.56nurdysThanatermesis,  so you need i try someting else
23:14.18Thanatermesisi want know why (and what) not works in the upgrade mode
23:14.22Thanatermesiscan you try upgrade mode again ?
23:15.06nurdysi m on elive topaz now
23:15.28Thanatermesisno matters, you can even "downgrade"
23:15.58nurdyslourdd
23:16.27nurdysi just finished all  the upgrade fille
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23:16.47nurdysThanatermesis, ok  what did you want
23:17.15nurdysapt-get - f install ?
23:17.32Thanatermesisno
23:17.34Thanatermesisthe upgrade mode thing
23:18.12nurdyswhere in a terminl
23:18.54nurdysi have to dowload
23:18.57nurdysthe iso
23:19.02Thanatermesisyou dont have it ?
23:19.12nurdysi dont saved it
23:19.16Thanatermesiswell, download rc3 then
23:19.46nurdysi have the iso
23:19.49nurdyson the cd
23:19.50nurdys?
23:19.59Thanatermesisthen do this: use the ugprade mode, close the installer, open a terminal from root and run eliveinstaller, then if you got any error copy and paste the contents of the terminal in a paste-bin website and give me the link
23:20.13keyraThanatermesis: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
23:20.20Thanatermesisno, you have only the contents of the iso on the cd, mmh, you can extract it
23:21.46nurdyswhat i need to cd ?
23:22.15Thanatermesisdd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/nurdys/elive-topaz.iso
23:23.23nurdysnot dev/cdrom
23:23.27nurdysmedia/elive
23:23.48Thanatermesisyes /dev/cdrom
23:24.02Thanatermesisdevice, not mountpoint
23:25.11nurdysdoest exit
23:26.23nurdysThanatermesis,
23:27.37Thanatermesisso just wait
23:27.39Thanatermesisthat finishes
23:28.25nurdysyou want i try sothin else for you
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23:28.45nurdysi donwload the rc3  ?
23:29.21nurdysThanatermesis,
23:29.41Thanatermesisnah, with this iso is sufficient
23:30.14nurdyswhat i do
23:31.17Thanatermesisthat command is for extract the iso from the cd
23:31.52nurdysroot N
23:33.03nurdysok it work
23:33.16nurdysThanatermesis,  to do the downgrade ?
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23:33.54Thanatermesisyes, try the upgrade thing
23:34.43nurdysi waiting the terminal
23:34.57keyranurdys: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
23:35.50Elive_user45_enjust a quick question then I'm out,, does elivecd support dual monitors?
23:36.37ThanatermesisElive_user45_en, if you configure it, yes
23:36.46Thanatermesissearch in google some howtos and examples, but is not very easy
23:37.05Elive_user45_enwill do thkz.
23:40.19alias_dubsThanatermesis, my md5 is ok
23:40.27alias_dubsI'll try the upgrade
23:40.33keyraalias_dubs: to know the md5 of Elive Gem say: apt, gem-md5
23:40.35Thanatermesisok
23:40.50nurdysyou used the rc3
23:40.55alias_dubsyup
23:41.31nurdysThanatermesis,  you realy need to teste the rc2?
23:42.00Thanatermesiswell, something has happened in your system that i have not see in other ones
23:42.37nurdysi reboot  with the upgrade ting
23:42.51nurdysbut
23:43.03nurdysi m on topaz
23:43.04nurdys?
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23:43.37Thanatermesiscat /etc/elive-version
23:43.52keyraThanatermesis: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
23:44.10nurdyselive topaz
23:44.28nurdysrc2
23:44.38nurdysyou need all?
23:45.20nurdysThanatermesis,
23:45.34Thanatermesisnot understand
23:45.54nurdyswhat you need
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23:46.02nurdysi on topaz ?
23:46.09nurdysyou want i reboot
23:46.15nurdyswith the upgrade thing
23:46.58nurdysThanatermesis,
23:47.25Thanatermesisyes, if you can
23:47.38Thanatermesisi want to reproduce the problem, nurdys
23:47.43Thanatermesisand so, know the cause and solve the bug
23:47.49nurdysbut i dont thing  
23:47.59nurdysbecause  i change the version
23:48.02nurdysi try
23:52.50DronAn[BY]_eeepcgo go go :) I'm waiting 2.0 :D
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23:58.05alias_dubssorry Thanatermesis but i lost my wifi configuration, had to find back my wpa key ;)
23:58.36Thanatermesisstrange that is not saved
23:59.07alias_dubsindeed
23:59.27alias_dubsthe rest seems to be ok
23:59.39alias_dubs(firefox history for instance)
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