IRC log for #elive on 20100305

00:23.16yebyen<PROTECTED>
00:23.39yebyenelive-version: 1.9.37
00:23.53keyrayebyen: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
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01:03.45wald0Koshie: elive works very good in old laptops
01:04.46wald0you can put a CD and a USB and try the boot parameter "changedevice", then you can continue booting from usb
01:05.00keyrawald0: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
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03:05.11Elive_user44_enhi
03:05.56Elive_user44_enelive 2.0 live and wireless... so far so good :)
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03:42.00yebyendoh
03:42.05yebyenmy kernel isn't booting anymore
03:42.19yebyenit flashes the grub boot sequence and then restarts into bios
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03:58.51Elive_user27_enhe
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04:42.04Elive_user90_enI have Elive installed on a flash - how do I create a ersisyent partition so I can save saxe sessions etc
04:42.55Elive_user90_enfs on flash is fat32 and over 1 gb free space
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05:00.22joe75w00t!
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05:38.25yebyenso, my old kernel works again!
05:38.30yebyenfor some reason
05:49.26yebyengrub2? hmm
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06:02.02Elive_user12hola
06:02.10Elive_user12hay alguien ahi?
06:02.17keyraElive_user12: que tal ?
06:02.43Elive_user12hola se puede chatear en gmail desde aquì?
06:02.48Elive_user12en gtalk
06:03.29Elive_user12estoy instalando elive y qise ver esto en lo que acaba
06:04.42Elive_user12keyra?
06:05.07Elive_user12hello?
06:05.19Elive_user12hola?
06:05.25Elive_user12konishiwa?
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06:11.17evryanzHello! :)
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07:37.08Wizardhi!
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09:44.18Koshieio
09:44.23Koshiea cru ne jamais pouvoir se connecter :o
09:51.48Koshieevryanz, ô/
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10:14.29pretenderhi all!before i install Elive i've some questions:can i install openoffice,and anothers softwares likely ubuntu?
10:23.48evryanzre
10:25.43Wizardhi
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10:35.05dronanHello world
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10:39.33nurdyshi
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10:40.51DronAn[BY]_bombuHi
10:42.53nurdysDronAn[BY]_bombu, what up
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10:46.39pretender0899how can i install elive?i'm speaking about /root,/home,swap,i see no option for that?
10:47.06nurdysinstall manual
10:47.31nurdysand you used gparted to do you partion
10:47.42pretender0899ok,i'm newly in elive,just now i'm running mint
10:48.01pretender0899and it differ
10:48.39DronAn[BY]_bombuYou'll see
10:49.04pretender0899have i runn the 3 option:complete mode?
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10:49.33DronAn[BY]_bombuYes
10:50.39pretender0899ok,but i see no option for "/"root
10:51.03DronAn[BY]_bombuOo
10:51.32nurdysyou  make a /partion and  afer  when the install  start he ask you what you do put on  the partion
10:51.37DronAn[BY]_bombuGparted it
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10:52.20DronAn[BY]_bombuOr just instal all in /
10:53.58pretender0899elive doesn't have ext4?
10:54.26DronAn[BY]_bombuOh
10:54.31pretender0899sorry for my english
10:55.15pretender0899i see only "ext3"
10:55.23DronAn[BY]_bombuElive have any
10:55.58pretender0899are you willing to guide me?
10:56.08pretender0899step-by-step
10:56.20DronAn[BY]_bombupretender0899: gparted it
10:56.29pretender0899ok
10:56.37nurdyswhat did you want to do
10:56.44nurdysmultiboot
10:56.54nurdysor all install on you disck
10:57.06pretender0899just to install it
10:57.27nurdysused the automatic install then
10:57.39pretender0899i'm on gparted
10:58.30pretender0899next step...
10:59.09DronAn[BY]_bombuCan you help him? I am fsom mobile phone
11:00.58DronAn[BY]_bombuPart free space
11:01.45pretender0899ok,guys,can you send me a link to teach me?
11:02.05nurdysto used gparted?
11:02.17pretender0899to install elive
11:03.32nurdysyou need to partion your hard drive
11:04.11pretender0899ok,i know that
11:04.31pretender0899this i'm trying to do
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11:04.46nurdyspretender0899,  watch you pv
11:05.22pretender0899what you mean?
11:05.57DronAn[BY]_bombuHow did you instal mint?
11:06.35DronAn[BY]_bombuDo the same
11:06.42pretender0899i've three partitions:"/"root,/home and swap
11:07.19pretender0899ok,i'll try,some day i'll do
11:07.29DronAn[BY]_bombuGood man so
11:07.30nurdyspretender0899,  je te parle  en prive
11:07.30pretender0899have a nice day
11:07.54Koshieio
11:08.15nurdysKoshie, counishoua
11:08.21Koshieo_o
11:08.44pretender0899in elive can i install applications/like amarok,openoffice,etc?
11:08.54nurdysyes
11:09.01pretender0899how?
11:09.11nurdyssynaptic or apt
11:09.48nurdyspretender0899, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Elive-Gem-58427.shtml
11:10.07pretender0899in synaptic i see no choice,i typed "amarok" nothing
11:12.46nurdysi  just check amarock dont be on the depot   but openoffice yes
11:13.03KoshieC'est un peu de la merde l'outil de connexion internet d'Elive
11:13.04KoshieVive network manager :/
11:13.04KoshieC'est même une grosse bouze !
11:13.07KoshieFor use Network-Manager I will just install network-manager ? Do I remove an other software ?
11:14.29nurdysKoshie,  il tarrive qoui  encore
11:14.46Koshienurdys, free > Grosse merde
11:15.00KoshieLe logiciel de connexion d'Elive soit j'y comprend rien soit il est bidon :)
11:16.42nurdysti comprend rien
11:16.47nurdysc qoui ton probleme
11:18.18majaxBonjour.
11:18.33nurdyshi majax  what up
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11:19.06majaxnurdys: wake up
11:19.10majaxhihi
11:19.44Koshienurdys, il arrête pas de scanner les réseaux aux alentours et j'ai pas le temps de me co à mon wifi pour la simple et bonne raison qu'il monte, il descend, ça se rafraîchie...
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11:21.04KoshieJ'aimerai utiliser network-manager, je le connais bien et il est bien plus intuitif que le logiciel d'elive
11:21.17KoshieC'est network-connector
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11:24.43Elive_user1_enhiya everybody *hi doctor nick*
11:24.46KoshieJe peux sans risque installer network-manager et supprimer network-connector ? J'aurai pas de conflit ? Impossibilitées de me connecter à internet ?
11:24.47KoshieHi
11:26.59Elive_user1_enwhat does everyone think of elive?
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11:27.46KoshieElive_user1_en, it's beautiful
11:27.52KoshieLight
11:27.55KoshieFast
11:28.12AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, i think i found a bug in smb-browser's gui
11:28.34Elive_user1_enyou having a problem with connecting to the internet?
11:29.52Elive_user1_eni don't speak much french
11:30.22AlexAnteMachinalol... Elive_user1_en you neednt
11:30.29AlexAnteMachinathis channel is mostly english
11:30.55Elive_user1_enawesome
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11:31.19KoshieElive_user1_en, Yes and no.
11:31.37KoshieI just don't like the software for Internet (ethernet and wifi)
11:31.39DronAn[BY]_bombuMerd
11:31.42Koshie+e
11:32.24Elive_user1_enit uses the same as ubuntu's, better than wicd in my opinion
11:32.36KoshieNo
11:32.42KoshieUbuntu use Network-Manager
11:32.46KoshieHere is Network-Connector :)
11:33.05DronAn[BY]_bombu:-D
11:33.12Elive_user1_enoh yeah, sorry
11:33.13AlexAnteMachinaI've had a look at lots fo graphical network-tools.
11:33.26AlexAnteMachinathey all have their pros and cons
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11:33.57AlexAnteMachinaif one uses dhcp mostly all of them working well.
11:34.06Elive_user1_eni can't wait till haiku gets proper wireless support with encryption
11:34.20AlexAnteMachinathe differences start appearing when not using dhcp.
11:35.01AlexAnteMachinawhat's haiku?
11:35.13KoshieAlexAnteMachina, An OS.
11:35.23AlexAnteMachinabased on what?
11:35.24Elive_user1_enit's another operating system based off of beos from the 90's
11:35.35AlexAnteMachinanever heard of
11:35.37KoshieAlexAnteMachina, An other OS than GNU/Linux or BSD or Unix :)
11:35.43KoshieI've forget
11:35.48KoshieSee the website AlexAnteMachina !
11:35.51DronAn[BY]_bombuNM in ubuntu is shit
11:35.55KoshieDronAn[BY]_bombu, NM rox
11:35.58AlexAnteMachinawhat website?
11:35.59KoshieHe is easy to use
11:36.04AlexAnteMachina"the" website?
11:36.04KoshieAlexAnteMachina, Of Haiku ?
11:36.19Elive_user1_enhaiku.org
11:36.29KoshieGoogle is us friend \ô/
11:36.29AlexAnteMachinawell, you know ... unfortunaltely there are some more websites out there  then just one.
11:37.10Elive_user1_eni recently found out they have a ports site as well, like gentoo
11:37.33AlexAnteMachinahaiku.org?
11:37.49AlexAnteMachinai think you did not check that out yourself.
11:37.50Koshiehttp://www.haiku-os.org/ AlexAnteMachina
11:37.50Elive_user1_ensorry, haiku-os.org
11:38.05AlexAnteMachinaah! much better!
11:38.07AlexAnteMachina:)
11:38.21Koshie"Haiku is a new open-source operating system that specifically targets personal computing. Inspired by the BeOS, Haiku is fast, simple to use, easy to learn and yet very powerful." << Everybody say that ;D
11:39.05Elive_user1_eni'm suprised it's still in alpha, feels a whole lot more stable than reactos ever did
11:39.06Koshie<PROTECTED>
11:40.22KoshieOh, Windows 98 xD
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11:41.00KoshieThey are inspired by windows 98
11:41.30DronAn[BY]_bombuCrap
11:41.42DronAn[BY]_bombu:-D
11:42.26KoshieIt's ugly
11:42.28Koshievery ugly.
11:44.42AlexAnteMachinawell, acutally I'm watching a video showing haiku
11:45.30AlexAnteMachinai dont really see a reason for using it. Its like an early linux-distribution.
11:47.10AlexAnteMachinaMaybe it's just my lack of Knowledge, but to me it looks very much like an left over oldtimer.
11:48.30KoshieAlexAnteMachina, and I think a lot of hardware (graphic controller, wifi...) don't work on it.
11:48.44keyraKoshie: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
11:48.49KoshieShut up.
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11:56.10MerMouY_ZinudHit there
11:56.13MerMouY_ZinudHi*
11:58.50KoshieHi
12:01.42nurdysKoshie,  ta essaye avec une cle wifi
12:01.56Koshiemon wifi marche bien ;)
12:02.21nurdysta pas des caracte chelou dans le mot de pass
12:02.49Koshiec'pas ça
12:02.54Koshiec'est le logiciel que je blaire pas ;)
12:03.34KoshieC'est bon un cigare :)
12:03.39KoshieMême un petit
12:04.00nurdysKoshie,  jai qu'un gros cigare dsl  je peut pas taide
12:04.14Koshiekoshon ;)
12:04.52nurdysKoshie,  sa donner qoui  au final votre site web
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12:07.59MerMouY_ZinudSo I have to make my big backup to install that final Elive!
12:08.12evryanzplop Koshie
12:08.14MerMouY_ZinudSooo exited
12:08.22Koshieplop
12:08.40nurdysevryanz,  bonjour mr le  grafiste
12:09.01evryanzMais je suis PAS graphiste
12:09.12evryanzC'est la 3e fois que je le dis
12:09.24evryanz>.<
12:09.27nurdysevryanz, dessinateur
12:10.06evryanzKoshie: bon en fait on est un peu dans la merde
12:10.13Koshie?
12:10.51nurdyssome one used msn?
12:11.02evryanzKoshie: j'ai emmené le Mac en réparation ce matin
12:11.09Koshieah
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12:11.21evryanzPour le problème de trackpad que j'ai depuis 6 mois
12:11.52evryanzEt donc je sais pas si j'ai tout sur une sauvegarde pour refaire le site
12:12.18evryanzTu as reparlé à Thanatermesis?
12:14.21MerMouY_Zinudhey les gars est-ce que quelques uns d'entre vous auraient un peu de temps pour tester un site en prépa? Il s'agit du futur site communautaire dédié à Elive.
12:15.02nurdysmais lol
12:15.11nurdysMerMouY_Zinud,  envoie ton lien
12:15.11Koshieevryanz, non
12:15.14evryanzQuoi?
12:15.30evryanzMais c'est *NOTRE* projet
12:15.42MerMouY_ZinudPour le moment, encore, ce n'est qu'une installation temporaire et devrait donc être ré-installé d'ici peu... J'ai besoin qu'on teste les fonctionnalités
12:15.53evryanzMerMouY_Zinud: c'est en français?
12:15.53MerMouY_Zinudah? un projet?
12:15.54nurdysenoi ton lien
12:16.04MerMouY_Zinudhttp://addicts.youm.org
12:16.22MerMouY_Zinudpour le moment par la suite ce sera http://addicts.elivecd.org
12:17.09evryanzAh c'est en anglais?
12:17.22MerMouY_Zinudnon pour le moment ce sera en anglais (pour une plus simple intégration par tout le monde
12:17.55MerMouY_Zinudoui les sites en français n'ont aucun succés nous ne sommes pas assez nombreux pour diviser la communauté
12:18.06nurdystu veut refaire le site elive?
12:18.20MerMouY_Zinudy'a qu'à voiir la partie fr du forum ou encore http://believe.be
12:18.24evryanzMais what
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12:18.49evryanzTu en a parlé à Thanatermesis?
12:19.04nurdysmdr
12:19.04MerMouY_Zinudnon il s'agit juste de réunir en un seul site les différents personnes/communutés tournant autyour d'Elive et leur fournir un site collaboratif
12:19.31evryanzOulà
12:19.36MerMouY_Zinudeuh... oui un peu http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?15,4142
12:19.49evryanzC'est bien ce qu'on voulait faire en français
12:21.49nurdysje pense  que la basse et bonne  worpress c bien
12:22.01nurdyson pourait retravailler la template
12:22.09nurdyset partir sur de langue differente
12:22.35MerMouY_Zinudbein encore une fois je ne suis pas sûr qu'un site en français de plus soit nécessaire mais je pense ussi que rien ne nous empêche de créer un groupe Français dans ce buddypress par exemple?
12:22.56evryanzLouais
12:23.01evryanz*mouais
12:23.32MerMouY_Zinudvoir intégrer directement un plug multilingue
12:24.26MerMouY_Zinudnurdys ma connection est bien pourrie (et trop fir(ewallée actuellement) si tu peux mettre ton image sur un serveur?
12:24.47MerMouY_Zinudpar transfert on va pas s'en sortir désolé
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12:26.19MerMouY_Zinudconcernant le template c'est un peu pâreil on s'était mis d'accord avec Thana pour essayer de rester le plus possible dans le style des E sites comme http://enlightenment.org
12:26.34MerMouY_Zinudmais biensûr tout est rediscutable
12:27.25evryanzEn fait le problème majeur pour nous là c'est que je récup mon Mac seulement mercredi
12:28.08nurdysevryanz, tu va te mettre a gimp
12:28.16MerMouY_Zinudet?
12:29.31evryanznurdys: Non, non
12:29.42evryanzC'est bien ça le problème
12:29.58MerMouY_Zinudje comprend pas bien...
12:30.56evryanzMerMouY_Zinud: je dessine sur Pixelmator
12:31.08evryanzPour faire le thème soi-même
12:31.34MerMouY_Zinudok dac
12:31.45MerMouY_Zinudje comprend mieux d'un coup
12:33.57nurdysmoi j'essaye
12:34.00nurdysun  theme
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12:36.49Elive_user57_enhello
12:37.05Elive_user57_enany one knows how to enable compiz plz..??
12:37.15MerMouY_Zinudsi vous voulez bosser avec nous sur ce projet (addicts.elivecd.org) il vous faut surtout bien regrader du coté des thèmes buddypress, je dis ça parce qu'ils sont différents des thèmes wordpress habituels
12:37.19keyraElive_user57_en: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
12:37.54Elive_user57_ensorry im new to elive how can i go there thanks
12:38.08MerMouY_ZinudElive_user57_en then you will have an ecomorph config pannel
12:38.22keyraMerMouY_Zinud: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
12:38.40MerMouY_Zinudjust click on your desk and follow config=>modules
12:38.51Elive_user57_enthank you
12:39.06MerMouY_Zinudyou're welcome enjoy!
12:42.59MerMouY_Zinudok l'extension manquante groupblog vient d'être mise à jour enfin on va pouvoir tester ce site
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13:03.43MerMouY_Zinudhey les frenchies y'a des twitteriens dans la place?
13:07.15AlexAnteMachinaMerMouY_Zinud, there is also a user guide in german too.
13:07.21AlexAnteMachinabut it is a real pain.
13:07.27MerMouY_Zinud:)
13:07.45MerMouY_Zinudwhat do you think about anwiki do you read that?
13:07.48AlexAnteMachinaits more confusing instead of being helpful
13:08.41AlexAnteMachinaa wiki is a nice idea, too.
13:09.21MerMouY_Zinudyes but anwiki is very particular as it is written FOR internationnalization
13:09.29AlexAnteMachinabut i#m thinking about people who do not have much knowledge in using computers
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13:10.06MerMouY_Zinudhttp://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?15,4142,4196#msg-4196
13:10.16MerMouY_ZinudI explained how anwiki works
13:13.41MerMouY_Zinudhttp://freebpthemes.com/themes/speed-buddypress-theme/
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13:13.55MerMouY_Zinudnice buddypress design
13:14.41MerMouY_ZinudI really have to show that to Thana
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13:35.16elmo40a little dark, dont you think?
13:36.05MerMouY_Zinudyes for sure I was more talking about the columns design etc...
13:36.34MerMouY_Zinudwe were talking about that kind of article slideshow display for example
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13:47.14nurdyswhy dark  why you dont you use the topaze color
13:48.15MerMouY_Zinudyeah more like http://addicts.elivecd.org
13:48.39MerMouY_Zinudonce more I was just talking about layout than colours
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13:53.42nurdysyes it fun
13:54.18nurdyswe can register
13:57.04MerMouY_Zinudsure but it's still really just for testing purpose it will be completly re-installed
13:58.12nurdysso i register when the  stable
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13:59.24nurdysMerMouY_Zinud,  i think they many informartion in this page  use a  menu
14:01.27MerMouY_ZinudI agree I'm actually working on this one http://addicts.youm.org it's same cms same texts (almost) just another testing area
14:02.01MerMouY_Zinudelivecd.org is really under permanent spam attacks
14:02.20MerMouY_ZinudIt will be real work to maintain it clean
14:02.21nurdystry the theme
14:03.01MerMouY_ZinudThat's not so easy becuse these two buddypress theme and versions are incompatible... :(
14:04.01nurdysyou dont have bleu word press theme
14:05.12MerMouY_ZinudI mean until some adaptation work the addicts.elivecd.org theme is incompatible with the actual buddypress version
14:05.26keyraMerMouY_Zinud: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
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14:05.58MerMouY_Zinudbetter for us to start from an actal buddypress theme and work on css to render it as we want (like blue)
14:06.16nurdysMerMouY_Zinud, if you want
14:06.36nurdysuse a buddypress
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14:06.40MerMouY_ZinudI don't want I'm just able to do that way...
14:07.00MerMouY_Zinudif anyone can write a theme you're welcome
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14:22.02DronAn[BY]_eeepcПривет,Privet,Hello,Salut,Dzen dobri
14:22.04DronAn[BY]_eeepc......
14:22.06DronAn[BY]_eeepc:)
14:22.12DronAn[BY]_eeepcHola
14:24.35elmo40hi, tere, bonjour
14:31.12MerMouY_ZinudHi
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14:34.43DronAn[BY]_eeepcoh yes
14:34.53DronAn[BY]_eeepcbonjour :)
14:37.07nurdysbonjour DronAn[BY]_eeepc
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14:50.39liquidzorguys, ill only be able to install topaz if i donate? thats how it works?
14:50.59MerMouY_Zinudok background is nicer now
14:51.14keyraMerMouY_Zinud: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
14:51.27evryanzliquidzor: while installing it will ask you to donate
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14:57.04liquidzorevryanz, and what if i dont donate? does the install stop? (i live in venezuela and we have foreign currency exchange restrictions(
14:57.50evryanzliquidzor: yes, it stops the install
14:58.42evryanzliquidzor: maybe you can contact Thanatermesis to fond another way to obtain an invitation
14:58.50evryanz*found
14:59.30liquidzorevryanz, thank you so much for the info :)
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15:00.32evryanzI'm waintin for him too, for the same reason ^^
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15:03.02boldyznosalut
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15:03.34MerMouY_Zinudsalut
15:04.04evryanzYop  boldyzno
15:04.39boldyznoa quel fichier dans elive correspond etc/module.conf de ubuntu svp
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15:11.17boldyznoWhat is the file etc / module.conf of ubuntu in Elive. please
15:11.26Thanatermesisthe same, boldyzno
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15:12.20Elive_user47_enhellow
15:13.29MerMouY_ZinudHi thana what do you think about re-installing addicts website?
15:17.01boldyznoI see module, but no module.conf. Is the same ?
15:17.58boldyznomodules*
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15:26.58Elive_user69_enhi
15:27.44MerMouY_ZinudHi
15:27.54Elive_user69_enelive best distro
15:28.12MerMouY_Zinudright isn't it?
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15:28.49Elive_user69_enyes
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15:30.43Elive_user69_enhelp me for install driver usb tv, please..
15:31.33MerMouY_Zinudok I have to say that I'm not easy at all with that but I can try to help
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15:32.03MerMouY_Zinudfirst what is it (brand & chipset if you know it?
15:32.58Elive_user69_endvb-usb-dib0700-1.20.fw
15:33.50MerMouY_Zinudis it the description from the box or from dmesg?
15:33.57Elive_user69_enyes
15:35.24MerMouY_Zinudyes mean box? or dmeg?
15:35.38MerMouY_Zinud*dmesg
15:35.55Elive_user69_ensorry dmesg
15:36.26MerMouY_Zinudok do you use it under other distro?
15:37.12Elive_user69_enyes  on karmic
15:37.42MerMouY_Zinudand what is the software you use it with?
15:37.54Elive_user69_enkaffeine o me-tv
15:38.07Elive_user69_ennow on elive i have install kaffeine
15:43.41MerMouY_Zinudok sorry
15:43.51MerMouY_Zinudand what it say?
15:44.00MerMouY_Zinudnothing recognized?
15:44.50Elive_user69_enok, i paste to pastbin, ca you say me about copy from terminal elive?
15:45.04keyraElive_user69_en: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
15:45.18MerMouY_Zinudyes please maybe it can help...
15:45.29Elive_user69_eni have't mouse
15:45.35MerMouY_Zinudhttp://fredboboss.free.fr/nova500.php do you have this card?
15:46.05Elive_user69_enyes
15:46.09MerMouY_Zinuddo you know if you have something like "diversity" on your?
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15:46.31elmo_TopazThanatermesis:
15:46.46elmo_TopazHostname: Elive - OS: Linux 2.6.30.9-elive-686/i686 - CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (2793.138 MHz) - Processes: 90 - Uptime: 6m - Load Average: 0.24 - Memory Usage: 182.84MB/747.41MB (24.46%) - Disk Usage: 0.74GB/1.71GB (43.38%)
15:46.58elmo_Topazit only says 'elive os'
15:47.00MerMouY_Zinudok we can try following this howto apparently
15:47.18elmo_Topazwhy not elive topaz?
15:47.19MerMouY_Zinuddo you understand french?
15:47.28elmo_Topazbonjour :)
15:47.32Thanatermesiselmo_Topaz, hostname is hostname
15:47.34Elive_user69_enyes topaz
15:47.34MerMouY_Zinudsalut elmo
15:47.41elmo_TopazThanatermesis: ah, ok ;)
15:47.54Elive_user69_enhostname --> elive
15:47.57elmo_TopazHostname: Elive - OS: Linux 2.6.30.9-elive-686/i686 - CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (2793.138 MHz) - Processes: 90 - Uptime: 7m - Load Average: 0.14 - Memory Usage: 184.26MB/747.41MB (24.65%) - Disk Usage: 0.74GB/1.71GB (43.38%)
15:48.38MerMouY_ZinudElive_user69_en do you want me to help you with translating this howto?
15:49.42Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, no thanks i understand (but i don't download file .fw
15:49.55elmo_TopazThanatermesis: so far so good.
15:50.07MerMouY_Zinudok fine just say how it works
15:50.08elmo_Topazon an intel machine at the university library :)
15:50.25elmo_Topaz82865G Integrated Graphics
15:50.33elmo_Topaz82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet
15:50.35MerMouY_Zinudrunning installed elive on a public machine???
15:50.37elmo_Topazvery typical
15:50.52elmo_TopazMerMouY_Zinud: liveCD.... though i used to install elive on here
15:50.57elmo_Topazdid it back in '03!
15:51.05elmo_Topazand it stayed for over a month
15:51.10elmo_Topazthen they re-imaged the computer :P
15:51.16MerMouY_Zinud!!!
15:51.18MerMouY_Zinud:D
15:51.22elmo_TopazThanatermesis: what auto-changes the background image?
15:51.36keyraelmo_Topaz: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
15:53.48Thanatermesiselmo_Topaz, just a small demo script
15:54.33elmo_Topazwow, internet here SUCKS!
15:54.40elmo_Topaz58kb/s :/
15:55.05elmo_TopazThanatermesis: have you seen the E desktop switcher? will change with random images from flikr?
15:55.08elmo_Topazor anywhere else
15:55.33Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, thanks but I cannot download firmware
15:55.47elmo_Topazor the one with the earth view? changes the daylight/nighttime in real time
15:55.53Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, I config it next days
15:56.04MerMouY_Zinudok why can't you?
15:56.13MerMouY_Zinudnot available?
15:56.21Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, yes
15:56.27MerMouY_Zinudshit...
15:56.40Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, it is'nt  available
15:56.50MerMouY_Zinudat least we had a try just keep this howto in bookmarks
15:57.08MerMouY_Zinudyou can surely find it elsewhare...
15:57.13Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, thanks for all
15:57.17Thanatermesiselmo_Topaz, nope
15:57.26elmo_TopazThanatermesis: seems like the onboard intel is slow ;)
15:57.32elmo_Topazflash max's out the CPU
15:57.47MerMouY_Zinudu're welcome!
15:58.03MerMouY_Zinudflash is shit
15:58.14MerMouY_Zinudspecially under linux boxes...
15:58.33Elive_user69_enMerMouY_Zinud, I have one server and optical  network for mirror (if the comunity have need)
15:58.57MerMouY_Zinudthat's a shame but can we wait more from that shitty corporated Adobe?
15:59.32MerMouY_Zinudwhaoo you have to propose this to thana as he's the server moderator
16:00.51elmo_TopazThanatermesis: where do the .edj files go?  ~.e/e/something?
16:03.19nurdysMerMouY_Zinud,  tu as demande a Thanatermesis
16:03.26MerMouY_Zinudyep
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16:03.37nurdysil a dit qoui
16:03.41Koshieio
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16:04.02elmo_Topazahh, i miss university...
16:04.02Elive_user99_enbonjour tlm
16:04.06elmo_Topazall the girls! :)
16:04.11MerMouY_Zinudah non pas au propos de addicts j'y vais de ce pas
16:05.19KoshieSalut Elive_user99_en
16:05.24elmo_Topazhttp://qurl.org/Dx0
16:05.28elmo_TopazThanatermesis: could this work?
16:05.29ThanatermesisElive_user69_en, thanks for the mirror offer, more details you have in:  http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoMirrors
16:05.38KoshieThanatermesis, hi
16:05.45Thanatermesishi Koshie
16:06.06D0mSpas mal cette nouvelle version stable d'elive
16:06.15D0mSje suis en live usb en c emoment
16:06.17KoshieD0mS, on s'est déjà vu toi et moi, non ?
16:06.17Elive_user69_enThanatermesis, nothing
16:06.20keyraD0mS: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
16:06.27Koshie(je l'ai sur mon système et elle est pas mal :))
16:06.35Thanatermesiselmo_Topaz, i dont know, try it
16:06.48KoshieOH ! I'm in RC1, wtf :o
16:07.06KoshieBut it say "stable".
16:07.10Koshiedont understand
16:07.34ThanatermesisKoshie, dont worry, RC1 is like 2.0 :)
16:07.35D0mSlol Koshie de "une souris verte" ?
16:07.43KoshieThanatermesis, ok :)
16:07.45KoshieD0mS, oui ;)
16:07.48Koshieubuntu-fr.org :)
16:07.54KoshieMais j'ai une crête maintenant>;
16:08.02D0mS^^
16:08.06Koshie(une petite)
16:08.33MerMouY_Zinudtu es un coq une montagne ou un punk?*
16:08.44Koshie?
16:09.26KoshieD0mS, http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1267805356.jpg
16:09.35elmo_TopazThanatermesis: here it is. He uses xplanet. http://www.squaregoldfish.co.uk/software/e17xplanet/
16:09.45KoshieEt il me manque des piercings
16:09.52KoshieDont mon super labret, cassé :(
16:10.03MerMouY_Zinudbein qui dit crête dit soit coq ou montagne ou bien encore un punk
16:10.20D0mSpetite effectivement ^^
16:10.27elmo_TopazThanatermesis: mmm, university ;)
16:10.34MerMouY_Zinudok :)
16:10.37elmo_Topazles petites femme!
16:10.44KoshieMerMouY_Zinud, je peux avoir une crête sans être un punk :)
16:10.51KoshieMais j'écoute du punk
16:10.58KoshieOn y fait de belle rencontre en concert
16:11.00MerMouY_Zinudoui biensûr façon de parler... :)
16:11.02KoshieDont ma chérie :-*...
16:11.08MerMouY_Zinudmoi c'est l'inverse
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16:11.19KoshieMerMouY_Zinud, Punk sans crête ?
16:11.25KoshieHeil AlexAnteMachina \ô
16:11.33MerMouY_Zinudje le suis plus que je n'y ressemble
16:11.39AlexAnteMachinaLOL
16:11.39Koshie?
16:11.42AlexAnteMachinahi Koshie
16:11.43MerMouY_Zinudquelque chose comme ça
16:11.43Koshie.o.
16:11.46Koshie|o|
16:11.47MerMouY_Zinud:D
16:11.48Koshie.o.
16:12.06KoshieCan I have my candy Fürher AlexAnteMachina ?
16:12.18AlexAnteMachinanow you are really overdoing it.
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16:12.35KoshieMeisteeeer
16:12.38Koshie<PROTECTED>
16:12.52KoshieD0mS, t'es sur Elive habituellement ? Ou Ubuntu ?
16:13.01AlexAnteMachinaNo Candy untill World Leadership is completed!
16:13.01D0mSnon, ubuntu
16:13.07Koshie:(
16:13.10KoshieD0mS, ok
16:13.29KoshieÇa me fait triper E + Compiz :)
16:13.29D0mSsur elive, le wifi n'était pas reconnu a l'origine sur mon ordi
16:13.34D0mSpas essayé
16:13.37KoshieD0mS, et avec un noyau plus récent ?
16:13.40D0mScomment on l'active ?
16:13.42KoshieD0mS, essaie ecomorph ;)
16:13.56Elive_user97_enHello all, just a quick question. I have the development version installed. To get Topaz, do I need to reinstall/do an upgrade from the CD?
16:13.56keyraKoshie: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
16:13.57AlexAnteMachinaAs soon as we are empowered as the worlds leader, there will be candy for everybody.
16:14.11KoshieAlexAnteMachina, really ?
16:14.12nurdyselmo_Topaz, ta un .Deb d xplanet
16:14.25AlexAnteMachinaof course, of course.
16:14.27elmo_Topazhttp://tech.shantanugoel.com/projects/linux/shantz-xwinwrap   looks interesting. but not for E17
16:14.41KoshieMy dear fürher ç_ç....
16:14.49AlexAnteMachinaholy....
16:14.50Koshiecry
16:14.58AlexAnteMachinaKoshie, please stop that now.
16:15.00Koshie:p
16:15.06MerMouY_ZinudElive_user97_en yes you can use the upgarde mode but be sure to have the last installer version it's called elive-installer-4g
16:15.20keyraMerMouY_Zinud: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
16:15.23MerMouY_Zinudbetter to do a clean install
16:15.28elmo_TopazElive_user97_en: just grab the .iso and install. it will ask if you want to upgrade
16:15.31nurdyselmo_Topaz,  ??????
16:16.04elmo_Topaznurdys: c'est 'in the repo'
16:16.07elmo_Topazapt-get install xplanet
16:16.18elmo_Topaznurdys: pas le wallpaper script :(
16:16.30KoshieCan I remplace network-connector by Network-Manager ?
16:16.32keyraelmo_Topaz: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
16:16.35KoshieI hate it :/.
16:16.40elmo_TopazMerMouY_Zinud: 2.0 is latest everything. nothing to upgrade.
16:16.45nurdyselmo_Topaz,  et le wallpaper sa fe deux jour je cherche avec ma map la
16:16.58D0mSecomorph is impressive
16:17.01Elive_user97_enok thanks folks, I'll give the upgrade a shot :)
16:17.05elmo_Topazdeux jour? long time
16:17.12KoshieOn parle franglais ici, tiens :)
16:17.15elmo_TopazElive_user97_en: there are two versions
16:17.19MerMouY_Zinudif you have iso yes... but if you start from an already installed system...
16:17.21elmo_TopazElive_user97_en: what vid card do you have?
16:17.34KoshieJe peux remplacer network-connector par network-manager sans risque ?
16:17.35elmo_Topazlaptop or pc?
16:17.43elmo_TopazKoshie: m'eh
16:17.49Koshie?
16:17.54Koshiehe'm
16:17.56MerMouY_Zinudoulà moi j'éviterais
16:18.05elmo_TopazKoshie: apt-get install...
16:18.07KoshieJe capte rien au premier, il fait n'imp' j'ai l'impression.
16:18.26Koshieelmo_Topaz, ouais mais si tu supprime le premier... Je sais pas si je repourrai me co convenablement ;D
16:18.28MerMouY_Zinudcomme tu veux mais pense à désactiver le service qui va avec
16:18.33elmo_TopazAlexAnteMachina: i dont know if you were here... but i am in the library of my university :)
16:18.38elmo_Topazrunning liveCD of Elive 2.0
16:18.43KoshieMerMouY_Zinud, le deamon au démarrage ?
16:18.44D0mSbut i can't find the way to use the shortcuts in the mouse to change the desktop for exeample
16:18.46MerMouY_Zinud/etc/init.d/netconnectord
16:18.48KoshieEt je le remplace par celui de nm ?
16:18.57KoshieD0mS, ALT + molette souris ?
16:18.58MerMouY_Zinudpar exemple oui j'imagine
16:19.06elmo_TopazKoshie: who needs internet? :P
16:19.13Koshieelmo_Topaz, me, for survive.
16:19.18KoshieI need Internet é_è
16:19.20D0mSj'aimerais utiliser un bouton spécifique de ma souris si c'ets possible
16:19.31elmo_TopazD0mS: left-click Settings?Wallpaper
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16:19.41KoshieD0mS, faut voir ça dans la configuration
16:19.47Koshieclique gauche, configuration je crois
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16:20.59elmo_TopazD0mS: trouver?
16:21.04D0mSnan
16:21.06D0mSpas encore
16:21.15elmo_Topazgauche clique > Settings > Wallpaper
16:21.17elmo_Topazsimple
16:21.57D0mSno, i don't want to change my wallpaper
16:22.07AlexAnteMachinaelmo_Topaz, so you are in the library dunning elive-topaz.
16:22.07elmo_Topazthat is what you said, non?
16:22.10AlexAnteMachinaokay.
16:22.14elmo_TopazAlexAnteMachina: yes :)
16:22.15AlexAnteMachinaand?
16:22.22D0mSsorry, my english is very bad
16:22.24elmo_Topazwith all the pretty girls walking around....... ahh, the good old days
16:22.33AlexAnteMachinahmm??
16:22.35elmo_Topazbut this library computer is lame.
16:22.41AlexAnteMachinaisnt getting the point
16:22.59elmo_Topazmodel name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
16:23.03D0mSi want to change the button 7 of my mouse to rotate the cube (change the desktop)
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16:23.10elmo_TopazAlexAnteMachina: nothing.... just ignore me
16:23.16D0mStu fais des tests Koshie ?
16:23.20elmo_TopazD0mS: oh ;)
16:23.22AlexAnteMachinahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvqdiKjF9g&feature=related
16:23.26KoshieSoit ma connexion a un problème, soit ce logiciel est une sombre merde :/.
16:23.43AlexAnteMachinadoes anybody know where to get such an background?
16:23.57keyraAlexAnteMachina: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
16:23.59AlexAnteMachinathe video its showing is really nice
16:24.51elmo_TopazKoshie: Internet Configurator  n'est pas fonctioner?
16:24.57Koshie?
16:25.13D0mSj epense qu'il te demande pourquoi ça a déconnecté
16:25.24KoshieNon, me dit juste échec.
16:25.38MerMouY_Zinudlokks nice alex
16:25.47MerMouY_Zinudbut dunno
16:27.34D0mSso, elmo_Topaz, do you know how to change shortcuts with ecomorph's effects ?
16:27.48keyraD0mS: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
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16:28.00elmo_TopazD0mS: isnt there a text file somewhere? :P
16:28.17D0mS?
16:28.55elmo_Topazeverything in linux is a configurable text file...
16:28.59elmo_Topazwell, sorta
16:29.01D0mSwich one ?
16:29.02elmo_Topazexcept E17!
16:29.40nurdyswhat client of messenger do you used
16:30.45elmo_Topazme?
16:31.21elmo_Topazirssi
16:31.27elmo_Topazis there anything else?
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16:31.50elmo_TopazThanatermesis: so far so good
16:31.51nurdysfor messenr
16:31.55D0mSi must go, bye all
16:32.02elmo_Topazwill test again on my laptop
16:32.06elmo_Topazciao for now
16:32.18elmo_Topaznurdys: finch
16:32.26elmo_Topazthe console version of pidgin
16:32.29elmo_Topazvery nice, actually
16:32.35nurdysmdr
16:32.37elmo_Topazcould use better shortcut keys, though
16:37.23nurdyselmo40,
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16:39.32boldyznoI'm got go. bye all
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16:43.06nurdysThanatermesis,  did you  know mercury
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16:50.27Acta_non_Verbahey guten abend
16:52.05AlexAnteMachinahallo Acta_non_Verba
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16:52.27Acta_non_Verbana wie stehen die aktien
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16:55.47AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user17_de
16:55.55Elive_user17_degreets
16:56.01AlexAnteMachinagrüße
16:56.58Elive_user17_dei'm testing elive 2.0 right now and want to note that the german translation of your self written things really needs some improvement
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16:57.12keyraElive_user17_de: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans
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16:57.35Elive_user17_deokay
16:58.27AlexAnteMachinaElive_user17_de, ja das is bekannt.
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16:59.14Elive_user73_enHow much is the module to install?
16:59.26AlexAnteMachinaHab schon fast alles übersetzt. nur muss das halt auch eingebunden werden.
16:59.45Elive_user17_denow i opened a thunar window, switched the virtual desktops around. after that i weren't able to get to the window any longer - if i tried to move the mouse pointer above it, it moved away to the left a bit and is now no longer on the visible desktop and not reachable
16:59.59Elive_user17_deAlexAnteMachina, okay, cool :)
17:00.18Elive_user17_deoh, mein englisch ist ja grauenvoll. nunja, ist ja anonym hier *g*
17:00.22AlexAnteMachinaElive_user17_de, also wenn's nach mir geht müsste am we alles fertig werden.
17:00.25Elive_user73_enHas anyone paid for the install?
17:00.47Elive_user17_deAlexAnteMachina, aber die übersetzung fehlt ja nun auf im offiziellen 2.0er release?
17:00.58AlexAnteMachina...wenn thana nich noch irgendwas umschmeisst bevor ich n backup mache.
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17:01.14AlexAnteMachinanaja, mit nem einfachen update is das dann auch drin.
17:01.30Elive_user73_enelive needs voip
17:01.31AlexAnteMachinaElive_user73_en, what's the problem?
17:01.50AlexAnteMachinawhat for?
17:02.00Elive_user26_enThanatermesis, help me about installation, please
17:02.05Elive_user17_deAlexAnteMachina, aber wie schon gesagt, hatte hier gerade diesen seltsamen bug mit thunar, sieht nach einem bug im wm aus
17:02.15AlexAnteMachinahmm?
17:02.48AlexAnteMachinahast du ecomorph aktiviert?
17:03.02keyraAlexAnteMachina: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
17:03.30Elive_user17_deAlexAnteMachina, keine ahnung, meine e17-zeit liegt ein paar jahre zurück. einfach nur die livecd gebootet :)
17:03.35Elive_user26_enThanatermesis, are you here?
17:04.01AlexAnteMachinaElive_user17_de, okay, dann is ecomorph nich an
17:04.29AlexAnteMachinaElive_user26_en, just tell us what's up.
17:04.54Elive_user26_enAlexAnteMachina, I have problem with installer
17:05.08keyraElive_user26_en: Don't be shy! Just ask.  :)
17:05.23AlexAnteMachinawell, yes. you told its about installation.
17:05.26ThanatermesisElive_user26_en, explain your problem
17:05.56AlexAnteMachinaElive_user17_de, kann aber auch sein, dass das nur im live-mode auftritt.
17:05.59Elive_user26_enAlexAnteMachina, when I launch it, error execution
17:06.05Elive_user17_deAlexAnteMachina, habs aber gerade mal angeschalten. kann man die effekte irgendwo konfigurieren?
17:06.12AlexAnteMachinabraucht nur der ram irgendwo nich ganz mitzuspielen.
17:06.38Elive_user26_enand I don't have code
17:06.42AlexAnteMachinaklar. geh mal in die einstellungen da muss jetzt auch ecomorph stehen
17:06.47Elive_user17_deAlexAnteMachina, bug, der gerade auffällt - mit ecomorph kann ich das e17-einstellungen-fenster nicht mehr fokusieren, alle anderen schon
17:06.48ThanatermesisElive_user26_en, have you burned a CD ? try to download Elive again and please check the md5, if you can, use a USB instead (elive keyra boot usb)
17:06.55nurdysits a english room
17:07.02xorioshi Thanatermesis, congratulations for the release of elive 2.0
17:07.03keyraThanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb
17:07.06Elive_user26_enNow , i use usb
17:07.09Thanatermesisthanks xorios :)
17:07.16Elive_user26_enThanatermesis, Now , i use usb
17:07.18ThanatermesisElive_user26_en, have you verified the md5 ?
17:07.34AlexAnteMachinaElive_user26_en, to get a code just follow the installation.
17:07.35Elive_user26_enThanatermesis, n
17:08.04AlexAnteMachinawell, even usb can segfault
17:08.05ThanatermesisElive_user26_en, so check the md5 of your ISO file and if is correct, you should not have problems
17:08.27Elive_user26_enThanatermesis, i check now usb
17:08.28Thanatermesisor maybe your usb has badblocks/broken
17:08.28xoriosI tried it in "live" and it is great (well, I was a bit "lost" 'cause I'm not used to enlightenment)
17:08.53xoriosThanatermesis, on which version of debian is it based?
17:08.54Thanatermesisxorios, everything is intuitive, just play with it and you will simply discover the things :)
17:08.58Thanatermesisxorios, lenny
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17:10.14Wizardhi
17:10.16WizardThanatermesis: ping
17:10.32xoriosso it will be the next development version that will be based on testing?
17:11.55alias_dubsI guess that Thanatermesis needs to get some sleeps now ;))
17:12.24AlexAnteMachinalol.. alias_dubs i think you are right.
17:13.52ThanatermesisWizard, pong
17:13.59Thanatermesisxorios, yes
17:14.05Thanatermesisalias_dubs, yes :(
17:14.11AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, just as an idea for 3.0 : http://tinyurl.com/ycczfbo
17:14.50ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, you have "goom" for that
17:14.55Thanatermesisor with xbmc
17:15.11AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, i think you did not read what that is
17:15.23AlexAnteMachinagoom is just visualizing music
17:15.25ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, yes, i readed, but this requires 3d acceleration
17:15.29WizardThanatermesis: does everything work?
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17:15.49AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, of course it requires 3d.
17:16.31ThanatermesisWizard, looks like :)
17:16.38Wizardgreat
17:17.05Wizardbtw, i've got an email about release and i have few things to say about it :P
17:17.17xoriosjust a last question to help me to decide if I install elive "in hard"...
17:17.18AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, i was just trying to give some kind of "input" for next stable
17:17.39Thanatermesisxorios, ask
17:17.40xoriosis it easy to install new softwares, thanks to debian repos ?
17:17.43AlexAnteMachinanot to be meant as a "i want that now and in 2.xx"
17:17.44ThanatermesisWizard, so ?
17:17.51Thanatermesisxorios, yes
17:17.52WizardThanatermesis: it's about the name compiz, which is often refered here
17:17.54keyraxorios: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
17:18.02Wizardcompiz is a compositing window manager
17:18.08keyraWizard: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
17:18.09Wizardecomorph != compiz :/
17:18.23keyraWizard: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
17:18.26Elive_user17_deWizard, the effects are quite the same
17:18.28ThanatermesisWizard, yes, well, in order to more ppl understand what there's talking about, is said compiz
17:18.35xoriosyes, but what if I want a more "up to date" version of a package?
17:18.37nurdysThanatermesis,  what it goom
17:18.38Thanatermesisecomorph is a hacked compiz
17:18.47Wizardyeah, i know
17:18.49Thanatermesisnurdys, a pluggin effect, apt-cache search it
17:18.56Wizardbut compiz itself is quite stable
17:19.07Elive_user17_dei want to mention that e17 with ecomorph is quite nice :)
17:19.12Wizard:D
17:19.49sylenceccand i've to say that as normally strict tiling wm user
17:20.10sylencecccan the elive repo be used on top of a normal debian?
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17:21.01Thanatermesisalias_dubs, some sleep no, a good and calm holidays
17:21.29Thanatermesissylencecc, you have a tiling feature for e17 too, is an external package
17:21.38Wizardsylencecc: sure, i did it once
17:21.48alias_dubsundoubtedly deserved ;)
17:21.54sylenceccokay
17:22.03Wizardsylencecc: tiling? i would use wmii or dwm
17:22.52sylenceccWizard, i'm using awesome wm on desktop setups and the oldschool but rock solid ion3 on my notebook
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17:23.02Wizard:)
17:23.14sylenceccmaybe i will ty out the e17 tiling module, but i don't think a simple module will fit my needs
17:23.22Wizardand i'm a traitor and use os x at my notebook and gnome at work
17:23.37Wizardi've used xfce but something happened and i switched to gnome
17:24.07sylenceccdoes elive ship with some tools to setup my dual-head setup here? i don't know the correct xorg options for the proprietary nvidia right now
17:24.22sylenceccWizard, they are all useable. just a matter of personal preference
17:24.26alias_dubsi noticed some elive users are also mac users
17:24.26Wizardhmm, nvidia has such tool
17:24.39sylenceccyeah, nvidia-xconfig, but it seems not to be installed
17:24.47Wizardapt-get it? :P
17:25.17MerMouY_Zinuddoes anyone knows if network-manager modify/create iptables rules?
17:25.23Elive_user26_ensorry how I copy to browser and paste in terminal
17:25.25Elive_user26_en?
17:25.26sylenceccoh, right, it's a debian. sorry, i all the time forget these possibilities of modern live CDs
17:25.38keyraElive_user26_en: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
17:25.41sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, it shouldn't, as far as i know
17:25.42MerMouY_Zinudmiddle mouse click
17:25.58Elive_user26_enkeyra, thanks
17:26.02alias_dubskeyra is not totally useless afterall ;)$
17:26.12keyraElive_user26_en: welcome :)
17:26.14MerMouY_Zinudand do you knows about just installed debian rules?
17:26.28keyraMerMouY_Zinud: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems
17:26.35Elive_user26_enkeyra, don't paste
17:26.53MerMouY_Zinudor don't be pest
17:26.57sylencecctoo bad the slow resizing of windows is still there with ecomorph. some modules i could add to improve that? :)
17:27.11keyrasylencecc: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
17:27.16sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, debian rules?
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17:27.56MerMouY_Zinudiptables rules, I mean is a fresh debian install has some rules for example to block ssh port?
17:28.14sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, as far as i can see here, elive ships with empty iptables rulesets, they are just using fail2ban via iptables by default
17:28.31sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, debian itself has no default rules
17:28.36MerMouY_Zinudok same for lenny?
17:28.40sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, elive uses fail2ban to secure ssh a bit
17:28.41MerMouY_Zinudok
17:28.43sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, yeah
17:29.13MerMouY_Zinudso why I cannot connect on my friend ssh?? arrghhhh=-O
17:30.33MerMouY_Zinudlet me summarise opening port on his fai box what more if no iptable rule what can block do you have any idea Am I forgetting something?
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17:31.28MerMouY_Zinudfollowing ssh port to his box what more?
17:31.43MerMouY_Zinudthat should work isn't it?
17:32.17MerMouY_ZinudGerman bands rocks!!!
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17:39.12AlexAnteMachinaMerMouY_Zinud, what r u listening to?
17:39.22MerMouY_Zinudmonochrome
17:39.42MerMouY_Zinudfrom Dawnbreed people do you know?
17:40.03MerMouY_Zinudwhere also  Acheborn before
17:40.27MerMouY_Zinudso Acheborn then Dawnbreed then monochrome
17:40.30alias_dubsMerMouY_Zinud, ssh works fine OOTB for me
17:41.15MerMouY_Zinudyeah at my home also maybe there some fai limitations?
17:41.59MerMouY_Zinudhttp://www.lastfm.fr/music/Monochrome
17:42.36MerMouY_Zinudreally you have to listen that one: http://www.lastfm.fr/music/Dawnbreed/Aroma
17:42.57MerMouY_Zinudor monochrome if that one is too loud for you... ;)
17:45.45alias_dubsMerMouY_Zinud, I would be surprised that FAI (i guess you're french;) block ssh
17:48.42MerMouY_Zinud1 pt for you I would also be but... I have not any other explanation
17:50.39WizardMerMouY_Zinud: too bad that sit is not in chinese :/
17:50.54keyraWizard: Elive in chinese ? Well... this is a howto for japanese http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml
17:51.31nurdysThanatermesis, impossible to find goom
17:51.49Thanatermesisnurdys, i think that you have it on audacious, check extra plugins
17:51.55Thanatermesisand in xbmc too
17:51.58Thanatermesisliquidzor, pong
17:52.38MerMouY_ZinudWizard ???
17:53.21nurdysThanatermesis,  it effet do what
17:53.46sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, tcpwrapper on the target machine?
17:54.05sylencecci've no idea what FAI is, but let your friend have a look at /etc/hosts.deny and hosts.allow
17:54.10MerMouY_Zinudwhat does it do? I don't know that app
17:54.33sylenceccit restricts access to some service, ssh uses it by default, too
17:54.41MerMouY_Zinudno no it's something simple he doesn't even pronounce linux
17:54.55sylencecchm?
17:54.59MerMouY_Zinudhe never touch anything on his machine
17:55.08sylenceccbut it's a linux machine?
17:55.25MerMouY_ZinudI installed him and since that he done only updates
17:55.31alias_dubssylencecc, FAI=ISP in french ;)
17:55.34MerMouY_Zinudyes a debian lenny
17:55.40sylenceccalias_dubs, oh okay, thanks
17:55.48MerMouY_Zinudit was before I know Elive ;)
17:55.59MerMouY_Zinudthanks alias_dubs
17:56.05sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, okay, by default the tcpwrapper rules are empty in debian
17:56.10MerMouY_Zinudi didn't remeber that trnas
17:56.18MerMouY_Zinudtranslations*
17:56.40sylenceccwhat are the symptoms? no tcp connection or concrete ssh errors?
17:56.50nurdysThanatermesis,  i have a big bg  when i turn off the  computer  i dnt have the splash  but many color on the screen and after he stop
17:57.01MerMouY_Zinudno connection it's just waiting and waiting
17:57.29MerMouY_Zinudit's looks like no response
17:58.21sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, can you reach his pc on other ports?
17:58.26sylenceccor via ping?
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17:58.53MerMouY_Zinudping is responding bur I think it pong from the modem
17:58.57sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, is he directly connected to the internet or does he use a separate router?
17:59.13sylenceccso maybe the modem does NAT and firewalling, too?
17:59.22Thanatermesis<nurdys> Thanatermesis,  i have a big bg  when i turn off the  computer  i dnt have the splash  but many color on the screen and after he stop
17:59.30Thanatermesisexit to entrance first and then shutdown the computer from it
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17:59.58MerMouY_Zinudhe's behind kind of modem router called box in france
18:00.12MerMouY_Zinudas freebox or neufbox
18:00.22MerMouY_Zinudisp router so
18:00.50MerMouY_Zinudand I've already configured it to follow 22 port to his local machine...
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18:01.21sylenceccMerMouY_Zinud, sounds like it should work :)
18:01.38MerMouY_ZinudEXACT!!!
18:01.54MerMouY_ZinudDo you feel my ANGER?
18:02.00sylencecci do :)
18:02.05MerMouY_Zinudit should but it doesn't
18:02.22sylenceccbut it sounds like misconfiguration of that device, sorry
18:02.36MerMouY_ZinudI have to go there maybe he touched something he didn't know...
18:02.40sylenceccbecause if you get no response, this device just drops the request or the answer can't go trough it
18:02.48sylenceccdebian by default shouldn'
18:02.52sylencecct be a problem in this setup
18:02.52MerMouY_Zinudyep right
18:03.05MerMouY_ZinudI have to go there definitely
18:04.28MerMouY_ZinudHey guys addicts will become tem soon!
18:04.35MerMouY_Zinudteam*
18:04.50MerMouY_Zinudteams*
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18:05.59Elive_user90_esFelicicidades
18:06.20KoshieÀ tes souhaits.
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18:27.39Elive_user30_enJust tried the Live CD.  I am extremely impressed.  I understand that there is a fee for a HD install.  What is this fee?
18:27.51Koshiefee ?
18:28.07KoshieMaybe is because I'm French but I don't understand this word.
18:28.32Elive_user30_enPrice..cost?
18:29.03alias_dubsyes
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18:29.12alias_dubsit's a donation
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18:29.56alias_dubsto support Thanatermesis who works full-time on elive
18:31.03Elive_user30_enHow much?  Is it a fixed price or any amount?
18:33.48Elive_user30_enAlso, I would like to install it with Ubuntu.  I am concerned because the new Ubuntu uses Grub2.  If I install Elive, will Elive's Grub boot my Ubuntu installation?
18:34.03KoshieElive_user30_en, for me, 5€.
18:37.12AlexAnteMachinaElive_user30_en, just gecide yourself how much you want to pay.
18:38.15Elive_user30_enOK...
18:38.40OpenSpaceElive_user30_en, grub2 is just default in ubuntu, it doesn't matter which one you decide to use
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18:38.53KoshieSi dans les prochains mois j'utilise encore Elive, je pense refaire une donation plus importante :)
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18:47.57Thanatermesiselmo40, ping
18:48.02Thanatermesisor alias_dubs
18:48.13alias_dubspong
18:48.38Thanatermesisalias_dubs, i have updated the description of the FAQ entry "free", maybe you want to untarzanize it ? :)
18:48.44Thanatermesishave you 3g4o8b6b7y0 ?
18:49.43alias_dubsyes
18:50.00alias_dubswe used it yesterday ;)
18:50.46alias_dubshost not found...
18:51.33alias_dubsgive me 10 min anyway, i'm on the phone
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19:00.38AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, isnt rage working?
19:00.46AlexAnteMachinaoh...
19:00.54AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, WHY isnt rage working?
19:02.12AlexAnteMachinait looks and works really good. but its mainduty isnt forfilled.
19:07.13Thanatermesiskeyra free cost payment
19:07.27keyraThanatermesis: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
19:07.47Thanatermesisalias_dubs, ^
19:08.27AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, well, the problem with the word free in english.
19:08.33alias_dubs5 min and I'm yours
19:12.13alias_dubsThanatermesis, gobby: host not found
19:12.28keyraalias_dubs: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's
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19:13.52alias_dubshi PcccP
19:14.24PcccPhi
19:14.32PcccPcomment ca va bien les gens?
19:14.34alias_dubshow are you doing?
19:14.37alias_dubsbien bien
19:14.39alias_dubset toi?
19:14.45MerMouY_Zinudhi PcccP
19:14.46PcccPtranquillement fatigué
19:14.55PcccPhi MerMouY_Zinud
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19:15.08alias_dubsfin de semaine pour tout le monde ;)
19:15.44PcccPnon moi il me reste un jour à tiré... demain
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19:16.42alias_dubscourage ;)
19:16.48Elive_user30_enHello all.  As an American english speaker, i can tell you that your website makes clear that there is a cost associated with a hard drive installation,  It is not clear what is the exact price.  If it is a voluntary donation of any amount, that should be made clear.  It seems unreasonable to give the pricing detail after the partitioner.  Most people like to know the price before they change their hard drive.
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19:17.02keyraElive_user30_en: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
19:17.37Elive_user52hi all
19:17.47alias_dubsElive_user30_en, yes it is donation of any amount
19:18.01alias_dubsmin. 5 $ though
19:20.25PcccPalias_dubs, en faite je crois que 3 € ou 3$ sa passe
19:20.46alias_dubsah ok je pensais 5
19:20.52PcccP;)
19:21.06PcccPbah grave tu sera fouetté
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19:21.55Elive_user30_enI would state clearly on the home page that a $5 minimum donation is required for a hard disk installation.  
19:22.16MerMouY_Zinudis announcer can be use for somebody in english?
19:23.15alias_dubsyes Elive_user30_en, I think Thanatermesis will do it
19:23.50PcccPbut you can try the liveCD and if you like it ...
19:24.29alias_dubsyes but he meant you don't know till this install how much you gonna have to pay
19:24.42Thanatermesisthe minimum is actually set to 15$, it was set to 5 in the past (and even 0.01 for tests) when we are on RC versions, just because it was not hte end version
19:25.03PcccPhello Thanatermesis
19:25.14PcccPun grand merci à toi
19:25.20alias_dubsok Thanatermesis, didn't know sorry
19:25.33ThanatermesisI have thought about a fixed price, between 30 and 45 $, i dont think that it is a really big price for a end system complete and very customized, since you can use it for the end of the times
19:25.47keyraThanatermesis: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
19:25.54alias_dubstrue
19:26.11Thanatermesisbut i think that is more nice to have a value selectable by the end user, where he can put the value that he thinks correct, or more exactly, "worth"
19:26.18Thanatermesiswith a minimum value actually set to 15
19:26.30alias_dubsanyway one way or the other they are right about the fact that it should be specified on the website
19:26.57Thanatermesisi really think that 15 is a very low value... what we do with 15 $ these days ? we lost minimum 15 $ every day on normal things
19:27.25Thanatermesisyou simply go to the city, so you take the train, a bus, a coffe... 15 $
19:27.27alias_dubsi agree with you Thanatermesis
19:27.40alias_dubsit's only about clear information
19:28.09Thanatermesisalias_dubs, yes, this is why i want to have it clearly writed on that FAQ entry, maybe fill up a bit more ?
19:28.11alias_dubsbtw isn't possible to donate directly from the website (outside of the installation procedure)
19:28.36Thanatermesisyes, i have put a donation button between years on the website but this never works... maybe a donation per month, maximum
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19:29.43alias_dubsyep it's an intresting idea
19:29.55alias_dubsoh no sorry i misunderstood
19:30.13Thanatermesisin any case let me add a donation button in the end of the stable page...
19:30.29alias_dubsyeah i think it would be a good idea
19:31.24alias_dubsmay be people regretting they have give too little during the installation
19:31.37alias_dubswhen they realize how awesome is elive ;)
19:31.59Thanatermesis:)
19:32.50Thanatermesisaparently is not sufficient after 5 minutes to playing in live mode
19:33.11alias_dubsyeah it appears to be to good to be true
19:33.35alias_dubsso they to try it out for a longer period to be convinced ;)
19:33.40alias_dubs*have
19:34.20Elive_user30_enIt is possibly the best Live CD I have ever tried.  I will use the live CD for a while before deciding whether to install it.  Regarding the price, that is your choice.  What is most surprising is that this Live CD is really usable.  With most distributions, the live cd barely works.
19:34.21Thanatermesisand how to do this ?
19:34.34keyraElive_user30_en: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
19:34.46ThanatermesisElive_user30_en, not really, Elive is more a distro than a live system ;), the live mode is just needed for the configuration of everything for to install it
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19:35.34alias_dubsElive_user30_en, live cd? if you try the with the usb you'll be astonished ;)
19:35.50Thanatermesisif you install it you will see that is really more a distro for daily use than other thing, the livecd feature makes it a bit confusing
19:35.58alias_dubsbtw Elive_user30_en, could change your nick, kind of hard to recognize
19:36.11Thanatermesisctrl + S  for change name
19:36.30MerMouY_Zinudest-ce que Do you feel yourself Artist? est correct en anglais?
19:36.57MerMouY_Zinudpour dire vous sentez vous l'âme d'un artiste (ou quelque chose comme ça)
19:36.59alias_dubsi'd like an artist
19:37.04alias_dubs*say
19:37.24alias_dubsou as an artist
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19:37.42MerMouY_Zinudtu dis Do you feel as an artist?
19:37.44VolkodavHow do I make a persistent dir on flash so I can use it not only as live ?
19:37.45ThanatermesisMerMouY_Zinud, i would like more to use the word "designer" (since artist can be a lot of other things)
19:37.48alias_dubsbut maybe Elive_user30_en can answer ;)
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19:38.02ThanatermesisVolkodav, this feature is not supported by Elive
19:38.16MerMouY_ZinudThana it's special question for other stuff like sounds or video etc...
19:38.23ThanatermesisMerMouY_Zinud, ok
19:38.25Volkodavhmm - so it's either live or full install ?
19:38.32don54321I just changed the nick from user_30 to don54321
19:38.43alias_dubsdon54321, ok!
19:38.46keyradon54321: press Control + S to change your nickname :)
19:39.03ThanatermesisVolkodav, yes, and the reason of why this feature is not included is because is not reliable, you can lost data and/or make your live system unstable, and Elive likes to be correct and stable :)
19:39.44VolkodavThanatermesis: what is not reliable ? saving data on the rest of the flash ?
19:40.56Volkodavhow do you make your live system unstable since you write changes only at shutdown ?
19:41.02Volkodavheh
19:41.08ThanatermesisVolkodav, the way of persistency works, adding a new RW virtualized layer to the system makes it very unstable, i think that there's not much risk to lost data but at least there's risk about wrong data (for example not writed when you think that you have copied something)
19:41.15alias_dubsMerMouY_Zinud,"i'd say do you feel like an artist?" (what do you think don54321?, it's english language question)
19:41.30ThanatermesisVolkodav, if you know how unionfs/aufs works internally you can understand what im talking about
19:41.33don54321I hope that this helps ...Artist = beauty.  Designer = organization  Developer = Technology
19:41.53alias_dubs*the " is misplaced of course
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19:45.07MerMouY_Zinudok let me explain the topic is one of the field you can fill on the futur elive collaborators website between are you coder? are you web coder? Are you designer etc...
19:45.36MerMouY_Zinudand thet one is for people doing for example musics, sounds, video etc...
19:46.09MerMouY_ZinudI come back just let your answers here
19:46.40alias_dubsI maintain my first answer ;) do you feel like an artist
19:48.30alias_dubsThanatermesis, anytime for a gobby session...
19:48.44keyraalias_dubs: you know... everybody is welcome to translate the tarzanic to english, with just apt-get install gobby and connecting to thana.no-ip.org to edit the announcements or messages or stuff's
19:48.46VolkodavThanatermesis: yes I do
19:49.11Volkodavbut Puppy resolved it pretty good though
19:51.28Thanatermesisalias_dubs, im adding this message to the Stable page:  Remember that Elive is more a Stable Operating System to Install in the hard disk and to use every day, than a simple LiveCD, the live mode is only needed for the correct preconfiguration of the hardware and is also a very good introduction or demo about Elive before to decide to install it. One time you install Elive you will discover that has a full set of extra packages and appli
19:51.29Thanatermesiscations to add in your system and also a reparation suite in case that you need it. Do not look Elive as a simple live system, the installation is perfectly stable and with a 100 % of accuracy in the installed data.
19:51.42Thanatermesiswell, let me start a etherpad better...
19:52.24alias_dubsok
19:52.38Thanatermesishttp://etherpad.com/iumkTRj8hl   alias_dubs MerMouY_Zinud elmo40
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20:00.04Elive_user69_itciao
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20:03.15sylenceccwow, etherpad rocks! never heard of that before
20:05.53don54321The only thing that I don't like so far is the default system font.  It is too fine, reminds me of Puppy Linux.
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20:08.47Thanatermesisdon54321, this is on reality a good thing, but you can change it, of course
20:09.09Thanatermesissmaller fonts = more contents on your screen, this is a big problem on the computers that has a small resolution
20:09.25Thanatermesiswith small fonts, their low resolution will act like a big resolution box :)
20:09.39Thanatermesisand it is not really small!, you should check my desktop
20:10.04Thanatermesisthis is a screen with small font, don54321 :)  http://www.rasterman.com/files/coding.jpg
20:10.48alias_dubsraster...
20:11.50sylenceccThanatermesis, i added some comments to the pad
20:11.57sylencecci've
20:12.12alias_dubswhen you see what applications raster uses (icons) it's a bit scary
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20:17.22Elive_user18_ithelp me about http://www.elivecd.org/installer-module
20:18.14alias_dubswhat about it?
20:18.44Elive_user18_itI don't have http://www.elivecd.org/installer-module
20:19.09AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, WHY isnt rage working?
20:19.19Thanatermesisalias_dubs, just like me... almost only terminals, what else is needed ? :)
20:19.26ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, i dont know :) is not developed
20:19.29alias_dubs...no comment
20:19.32Thanatermesisis a deprecated software
20:19.33keyraThanatermesis: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
20:19.35AlexAnteMachinatoo bad.
20:19.43AlexAnteMachinait could be such a nice app
20:19.47alias_dubsElive_user18_it, what do you mean?
20:19.50ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, have you finished your C book ? :)
20:19.55AlexAnteMachinano Thanatermesis
20:19.58AlexAnteMachinashame on me
20:20.12Elive_user18_itAlexAnteMachina, I would install elive on my disk
20:20.14ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, if yes, then maybe you can complete it... rage is a unfinished software
20:20.26keyraElive_user18_it: You don't know how install Elive? Honey... is not that hard...! Just click the Install-icon in the Docker!
20:20.47AlexAnteMachinaElive_user18_it, ??
20:21.20alias_dubsElive_user18_it, you can speak italian if it's easier for you
20:21.21Elive_user18_itkeyra, yes but Ask me modules
20:21.25ThanatermesisAlexAnteMachina, alias_dubs PcccP sylencecc MerMouY_Zinud:  I have received an email with a recommendation to make the system "14 days trial" instead of payable directly from the installer... what you think about this ? i personally imagine the situation to be blocked after 14 days and i dont like the idea lol
20:21.35keyraElive_user18_it: :)
20:21.48alias_dubsThanatermesis, i disagree, the live mode is sufficient
20:21.50Elive_user18_italias_dubs, ho bisogno del modulo di installazione
20:22.14Elive_user18_itmi chiede : http://www.elivecd.org/installer-module
20:22.26Elive_user18_itOra è necessario il Modulo di Installazione, puoi ottenerlo collegandoti a http://www.elivecd.org/installer-module e utilizzando questo codice: ad98c44de
20:22.40alias_dubsesatto
20:23.10alias_dubssull' website c'è "insert your installer code"
20:23.16sylenceccThanatermesis, would be the wrong way - that looks too much like a not activated windows, that simpl won't work after some days anymore and for the average user all data is lost
20:23.27alias_dubsdevi scrivere il codice
20:23.37AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, how about a free 14-days-installer-module that blocks the system after 14 days if not entering a code one has paid for?
20:23.47alias_dubsdato durante l'installazione
20:23.52Thanatermesisalias_dubs, yes, and also can be considered a "trial of 14 days" hu ? even more days :)
20:24.06alias_dubsesatto
20:24.13alias_dubseuh exactly
20:24.18Thanatermesis:)
20:24.28Elive_user18_italias_dubs, non ho capito
20:24.33AlexAnteMachinaso one could use it as live-cd, then install it for free and at least after 14 days of testing one HAS to buy a code
20:24.37alias_dubsdevi scrivere  ad98c44de
20:24.48Elive_user18_ite pure l'email
20:24.48Thanatermesissylencecc, good point, yes... and also i imagine the situation and is pretty annoying, you feel more forced, blocked, etc
20:24.53Elive_user18_itgiusto§?
20:25.01alias_dubsnella parte insert your installer code
20:25.06alias_dubssull website
20:25.11Elive_user18_itfatto
20:25.12Thanatermesisok so we continue on that way for now :)
20:25.23Elive_user18_itma non mi spedisce nulla
20:26.17alias_dubsmissa che scarica il module no?
20:26.25alias_dubsnon mi ricordo...
20:26.31Elive_user18_itnon scarica niente
20:27.31don54321It should be 30 day trial and then the multimedia playback dies. It takes a week to get any distribution to be perfect for the individual.  People will pay to get multimedia back and this way, nobody loses date.
20:27.32alias_dubsnon hai ricevuto una mail?
20:27.35Elive_user18_itno
20:27.48alias_dubsspam forse?
20:27.57Elive_user18_itcontrollo
20:28.05Thanatermesisalias_dubs, is the faq-free thing done in etherpad ? or we should add another talking thing on it ?
20:28.26Thanatermesisalias_dubs, yes, all the emails goes to spam, we have a problem with the IP of the server
20:28.30alias_dubsno  it hink we should mention the min. donation
20:28.40keyraThanatermesis: Don't be shy! Just ask.  :)
20:29.25Thanatermesisalias_dubs, not really, the price can vary in the future and is even possible that will exists new bonus disks in the future too (different prices)
20:29.40keyraThanatermesis: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
20:30.24alias_dubsok, but then the thing is that we don't say anywhere that we ask for a payment
20:30.33alias_dubsit's only implicit
20:30.38keyraalias_dubs: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
20:31.05ThanatermesisPcccP, good link (you have added a ")" on it)http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
20:31.34Elive_user18_itniente spam, non mi è arrivata l'email
20:31.43Thanatermesisalias_dubs, i dont understand what you mean
20:31.48Thanatermesisbut i think that is ok
20:31.56alias_dubsdoig it right now
20:32.06Elive_user18_italias_dubs, niente
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20:32.44alias_dubsun momento Elive_user18_it
20:33.02Elive_user18_italias_dubs, ok
20:35.22alias_dubsElive_user18_it, strano che non hai ricevuto niento
20:35.28alias_dubs*niente
20:35.42Elive_user18_italias_dubs, l'ho fatto 3 volte
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20:36.49alias_dubsdobbiamo chiedere a Thanatermesis, pero adesso non c'é
20:37.08Elive_user18_itporca, ho formattato il disco
20:37.18Elive_user18_ite mo resto senza os
20:37.31alias_dubsfunzionnara
20:37.57Elive_user18_italias_dubs, sei italiano?
20:37.57Thanatermesisalias_dubs, what is his problem ?
20:38.06alias_dubsnon sono belga
20:38.26alias_dubsElive_user18_it, has a problem to get the module
20:38.42alias_dubshe checked his spams and all and nothing
20:39.00alias_dubsElive_user18_it, ho vissuto un anno a roma
20:39.11Elive_user18_italias_dubs, capito
20:39.37Elive_user18_ite mo come facciamo per il codice?
20:40.08alias_dubsaspettiamo Thanat
20:40.13alias_dubsermesis
20:40.29Elive_user18_italias_dubs, io ho un server e banda larga a disposizione
20:40.47Elive_user18_itse mi dai una mano mettiamo su un mirror e il sito in italiano
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20:44.10Gran_GerHow can I use the transparencies for the terminal and the XChat window?
20:44.25keyraGran_Ger: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
20:44.32AlexAnteMachinayou wont, Gran_Ger
20:44.38Gran_GerWhy?
20:44.43AlexAnteMachinagone.
20:44.46AlexAnteMachinaits all gone.
20:44.53AlexAnteMachinaits all going down.
20:45.02AlexAnteMachinathe ship is sinking.
20:45.38AlexAnteMachinaGran_Ger, dont know really why, but it's gone.
20:45.59AlexAnteMachinaGran_Ger, ask thana
20:46.01AlexAnteMachina:)
20:46.08AlexAnteMachinahe will know for sure.
20:46.31Gran_GerOk. Let me see if I understood.
20:46.55Gran_GerThere is no more transparencies from elive?
20:47.06Gran_GerDo you mean at the Topaz Version?
20:47.13Gran_Geror since what version?
20:47.13MerMouY_Zinudecomorph is the key
20:47.23alias_dubs+1
20:47.28keyraMerMouY_Zinud: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
20:47.44alias_dubsif you activate ecomorph you'll get transparencey
20:52.07Thanatermesisalias_dubs, so he has payed or used an invitation ?
20:52.14MerMouY_Zinudhey guys for the payment blabla i'm not sure we need a trial version as we have the live version. Ok, it's not as fast as the installed one but every features are here...
20:52.28keyraMerMouY_Zinud: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
20:52.37alias_dubsThanatermesis, he doesn't have an invitation
20:52.54ThanatermesisMerMouY_Zinud, yes, we decided that the live is perfectly sufficient :)
20:53.05alias_dubsbut didn't receive anything i don't understand what was his problem
20:53.06MerMouY_Zinud+1 :)
20:53.13Thanatermesisalias_dubs, so he has payed and not received anything ? that is very strnage, the download is made in the mmoment AND also via email (spam)
20:53.27Thanatermesisalias_dubs, do you know his name or email ? may can check the logs
20:53.27alias_dubshe havent paid yet
20:53.28keyraThanatermesis: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
20:53.48alias_dubsbut he went sleeping....
20:54.09alias_dubsalso he has a server with large bandwith
20:54.15Thanatermesismmh
20:54.22alias_dubshe propose to make a mirror
20:54.22Thanatermesisso what is his problem ? lol
20:54.28Thanatermesishe dont get the installer CODE ?
20:55.02alias_dubshonnestly i don't i don't remember how it works
20:55.06alias_dubs*know
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20:56.15alias_dubsanyway he gave me his email for you if you intrested by a mirror
20:56.17alias_dubsminomit@gmail.com
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20:56.39alias_dubsoups should have give it in private
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21:25.37Koshiehey
21:25.43Koshiealias_dubs, je vais te spammer.
21:25.54alias_dubs?
21:26.00Koshie<alias_dubs> minomit@gmail.com
21:26.05Koshiespam alias_dubs
21:26.08alias_dubsnot mine
21:26.25alias_dubsplease don't spam
21:27.07alias_dubsi wanted to give it in private a Thanatermesis but i pasted it in the wrong window ;(
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21:35.00evryanzre
21:35.22evryanzKoshie: alors, des news?
21:35.35Koshieio
21:35.37KoshieDe ?
21:35.54evryanzAu sujet de notre idée
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21:45.46Elive_user94_frHello Thanatermesis, c'est jeff (le problème installer module)
21:46.17Thanatermesishello Elive_user94_fr
21:46.25Thanatermesiswe can enter in #elive-install channel, is more calm
21:46.29Thanatermesistype: /j #elive-install
21:47.09Thanatermesis/j #elive-install
21:47.11Thanatermesisici sur le chat
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22:06.25dileX_hi
22:06.34dileX_congrats to elive-2.0
22:07.30dileX_its based on which debian release? which release (latest snapshot, svn-rev) of e17?
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22:10.47alias_dubsdileX_, hi, it's based on lenny
22:10.51Elive_user78_dehi all
22:11.00alias_dubshi
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22:20.01dileX_alias_dubs: thx for info.
22:20.25dileX_alias_dubs: are the debian packages from packages.e.o?
22:20.28KoshieThanatermesis, le problème persiste ?
22:20.49alias_dubsthey comes from a snapshot
22:21.16alias_dubsto avoid any conflicts with elive packages
22:21.19ThanatermesisKoshie, which one ?
22:21.49KoshieThe problem with the installer module.
22:21.59KoshieOr it's an other problem ?
22:22.11Thanatermesisc'etait un PEBKAC :)
22:22.21KoshieEheh
22:22.24KoshieJ'en ai des beau
22:22.27KoshieDont un avec moi
22:22.33Thanatermesisil utilisait un installer-module de la RC2 que a parament il avait un different code que celui de la 2.0
22:22.47KoshieThanatermesis, http://www.pebkac.fr/pebkac-1935.html si tu as 10 secondes pour rire :)
22:22.54KoshieThanatermesis, ahah :)
22:22.56Thanatermesisje commençait a devenir fou... mais heuresement on a vu le probleme vitte
22:23.01KoshieEheh
22:23.08Thanatermesisbon, il c'est rendu compte que ça pourait etre ça (different code)
22:23.13Koshie:)
22:23.47dileX_vous avez une e17 avec debian-version pour moi?
22:23.57KoshiedileX_, Salut.
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22:24.01KoshieTu cherche une invitation ?
22:24.10KoshieOu à te procurer Elive en faisant un don ?
22:24.57dileX_invitation?
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22:25.11KoshiedileX_, je le garde, pour ma part, pour ma petite amie si elle est intéressé, désolé :)
22:25.19KoshieTu n'es pas prêt à payer Elive 5€?
22:25.33ThanatermesisKoshie, c'est ou écrit "don" actuelment ?
22:25.47Thanatermesisje croix que nul.part
22:25.52KoshieJamais vu (jamais beaucoup cherché) mais on ne parle que de ça ici non? :D
22:25.59Thanatermesishaha
22:26.04Thanatermesisbon c'etait dans la vielle page de la stable
22:26.07KoshieC'pour pas froisser les nouveau :).
22:26.07Thanatermesisdonc la vielle stable
22:26.10KoshieAh ? Et là ?
22:26.20Thanatermesisil et plus
22:26.24KoshieTu avais pas un truc "More than Microsoft !" dans la liste déroulante toi ?
22:26.24Koshie;)
22:27.04ThanatermesisKoshie, en tout cas keyra elle sait répondre a les paroles "free invitation" si tu en a besoin
22:27.17KoshieThanatermesis, ah ? :)
22:27.18keyraThanatermesis: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes
22:28.00ThanatermesisKoshie, ben oui: si microsoft il prend 300-400 euros pour son systeme, et Elive et plus légere, rapide, et dit mil fois plus stable (la stabilité et tres importante)... combien devrait prendre Elive ?
22:28.17Thanatermesis/s/dit/dis/
22:28.19KoshieThanatermesis, je sais pas :)
22:28.22Thanatermesiss/dit/dis/
22:28.26Thanatermesisarf
22:28.27ThanatermesisKoshie, ben oui: si microsoft il prend 300-400 euros pour son systeme, et Elive et plus légere, rapide, et dit mil fois plus stable (la stabilité et tres importante)... combien devrait prendre Elive ?
22:28.29Thanatermesiss/dit/dis/
22:28.32KoshieJe ne suis pas prêt à débourser 300€ pour un système, aussi bon soit-il.
22:28.33Thanatermesis:)
22:28.40KoshieMais je suis prêt à donner :)
22:28.43ThanatermesisKoshie, les gents il le font avec windows
22:28.54KoshieJ'ai fait des dons à la FSF, Debian, GNOME...
22:28.55KoshieMozilla aussi !
22:29.06KoshieThanatermesis, pour l'instant tu as eu le droit à 5€, mais je peux te promettre une chose
22:29.08keyraKoshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
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22:29.11KoshieSi ton système me plaît sur le long terme
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22:29.15KoshieTA GUEULE keyra !
22:29.16Koshie:d
22:29.27KoshieJe donnerai volontier, 10, 15 ou 20€ ;)
22:29.33KoshieEt j'essaierai d'inviter du monde à essayer Elive.
22:30.05dileX_Koshie: jai parle avec Thanatermesis - cetait 2 ans. il a pense de trois branches. je n'ai pas persecute. (boah, its hard to write in french).
22:30.35KoshiedileX_, use english dude :) !
22:30.40alias_dubswrite in english then ;)
22:30.46KoshieIt's more easy for me if you're not good in french :)
22:30.57dileX_yup
22:31.01KoshiedileX_, In french your sentence are so funny :D
22:31.19alias_dubsyeah but he's not that bad, come on
22:31.23dileX_dont laugh - I could be standing nehind you :-)
22:31.32dileX_behind*
22:31.35Thanatermesis<Koshie> TA GUEULE keyra !
22:31.36Thanatermesislol
22:31.42KoshiedileX_, I don't laught, my English suck so much :o
22:31.50KoshieThanatermesis, Je déteste tout les bots
22:31.53KoshieTOUS
22:31.59KoshieSans exception.
22:32.02KoshieSauf apt.
22:32.03Koshie:}
22:32.32ThanatermesisKoshie, mais keyra elle est utile :) il lui manque un peut d'amour peut etre
22:32.36Thanatermesisc'est a dire... une bonne database
22:32.43KoshieThanatermesis, j'allais être cochon :/.
22:32.45KoshieJe me suis retenu.
22:32.49Thanatermesiset peut etre un peut de perl
22:33.02Thanatermesispour un meilleur parsement
22:33.10dileX_its two days I described the way to zurich to a lady and her mom - while searching for "bridge" I remembered the song "sur le pont d'avignon"
22:33.23KoshiedileX_, :)
22:33.30Thanatermesisanybody with perl knowledges that want's to make some love with keyra ? :)
22:33.32KoshieJ'ai la quéquétte qui colle ! Et les bonbons qui font des bons !
22:33.40Koshiemake love with keyra
22:33.44keyraThanatermesis: Yes, I love you
22:33.55dileX_so what was wrong in my sentence - please correct me. otherwise I wont learn french so well.
22:34.00Thanatermesis:D keyra
22:34.20KoshiedileX_, What do you want to say ?
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22:35.46dileX_"I was in PM with T two years ago and he (T.) thoughts about splitting (elive) in three branches - but I didnt follow development"
22:35.52Elive_user57_ruHello:)
22:36.07alias_dubs_> Koshie: jai parle avec Thanatermesis - cetait 2 ans. il a pense de trois branches. je n'ai pas persecute. (boah, its hard to write in french).
22:36.17Koshiealias_dubs, je vois
22:36.34alias_dubsui c pour montrer la correction en dessous ;)
22:36.36KoshieJ'ai parlé avec Thanatermesis, c'était il y a deux ans. Il a pensé à faire trois branches.
22:36.37Elive_user57_ruI'm on Topaz now :) at last :)
22:36.39KoshieJ'ai pas compris le reste
22:36.42KoshieAh
22:36.49KoshieMais je n'ai pas continuer à suivre l'évolution du projet :)
22:36.54Koshie(long version)
22:37.06dileX_mais oui - penser a qc :-)
22:37.44Thanatermesishttp://www.elivecd.org/test3  <--- dileX_ are you talking about that ?
22:38.34dileX_hehe, yes. If you remember we talked long about what you were you using for the live-system
22:38.38KoshieThanatermesis, tu as un boulot de rêve n'empêche.
22:38.48KoshieTu peux dire que tu es sur IRC sans avoir l'air d'être un glandeur :-'}
22:39.14dileX_and I did a quick hack with sidux/fll with autologin feature
22:39.37ThanatermesisdileX_, aaah yes, i remember you now :)
22:40.02DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, Wah ... something new?
22:40.15alias_dubsI like the concept, gold-silver-bronze
22:40.18alias_dubsit's nice
22:40.21ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], test3 ? no... its just a deprecated/tests page, nothing done on it
22:40.30dileX_Thanatermesis: dec 2007 (wow long ago)
22:40.36DronAn[BY]But it is a plan?
22:40.46ThanatermesisdileX_, yes, the time pass fast! :(
22:41.04ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], it was, but for now the development continues without thinkin much on this
22:41.15Thanatermesisthis requires more work and specially more maintaining, not sounds very easy
22:41.16DronAn[BY]Oh ok
22:41.40Koshiealias_dubs, I like too
22:42.18dileX_Thanatermesis: I sent you a screenshot <http://img.flashtux.org/img132b4d1392dfx575db078.png>
22:42.58dileX_lol, kernel 2.6.23, man
22:43.20DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, Следующие пакеты будут УДАЛЕНЫ: (Will be removed)  libconfuse0{u}
22:43.30DronAn[BY]What is that package?
22:43.31Gran_GerHi hanatermesis. I was asking before how can I enable the transparencies into this chat client and the Terminal?
22:43.42Thanatermesishehe yes, its old
22:43.45keyraGran_Ger: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)
22:43.54ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], do not remove it
22:44.00DronAn[BY]Oh
22:44.07ThanatermesisDronAn[BY], apt-cache rdepends libconfuse0  show you who depends of it
22:44.14DronAn[BY]But it will ask all the time
22:44.24Thanatermesismmh, pommed
22:44.28Thanatermesisyou dont have a macbook, right ?
22:44.33Thanatermesisshould be a dependency by macbooks
22:44.37Thanatermesisso you can remove it :)
22:45.06DronAn[BY]shure? :)
22:45.13DronAn[BY]Ok
22:45.20DronAn[BY]you said i did :D
22:45.23AlexAnteMachinaThanatermesis, will there change more on the webiste except the banner?
22:46.32alias_dubsGran_Ger, ecomorph
22:46.38AlexAnteMachinaMerMouY_Zinud, ping
22:46.46keyraalias_dubs: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
22:47.08DronAn[BY]keyra, ;) Wah
22:47.39Gran_Geralias_dubs, that's the only way? Because then I should use this only into good card graphics
22:48.28Gran_GerThe Gem Version has as default enabled the transparencies.
22:48.28alias_dubsGran_Ger, not necessarily juste activate the ecomorph module and give it a try
22:48.44DronAn[BY]Gran_Ger, all alpha come frome Compiz(Ecomorph)
22:48.49ThanatermesisGran_Ger, is not transparency
22:48.54Thanatermesisis a crap called fake-transparency
22:48.58ThanatermesisElive dont likes craps :)
22:48.59Thanatermesisso removed
22:49.04Thanatermesisreal transparency = ecomorph
22:49.12Thanatermesisalso, this fake transparency requires a bunch of ram usage
22:49.15Thanatermesisso... removed from Elive
22:49.21DronAn[BY]:0
22:49.23DronAn[BY]:)
22:49.27ThanatermesisElive runs on 128 mb RAM machine and uses less than the 50 % of it... and this is GOOD !
22:49.32DronAn[BY]Right true :)
22:49.35alias_dubs\o/
22:49.38Thanatermesiswe dont want to bloat elive... we want ? :)
22:49.42keyraThanatermesis: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
22:50.02AlexAnteMachinaMerMouY_Zinud, do i need to create a new account on that website now?
22:50.09DronAn[BY]Thanatermesis, NO we don't
22:50.19alias_dubsis gonna end-up in jail with Reiser keyra doesn't stop talkin
22:50.46alias_dubs*if
22:51.01Thanatermesisbrb :)
22:51.02Thanatermesisout
22:51.37AlexAnteMachinaalias_dubs, are you married to keyra ?
22:52.02alias_dubssometimes i feel like it ;)
22:52.22DronAn[BY]:)
22:56.08dileX_bonne chance (ou synonyme "merde") - good look guys with elive
22:57.17dileX_bye
22:57.23alias_dubsbyz
22:57.26alias_dubsbye
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22:58.05Koshiewasynyt, eh
23:00.13wasynytKoshie, ?
23:00.19Koshiewasynyt, ?
23:00.25wasynytgood evening Koshie
23:00.42Koshie:)
23:00.43Koshiefine ?
23:01.21wasynytyeah
23:01.24wasynyt:D
23:01.30KoshieFrench isn't ?
23:01.39KoshieOr I'm crazy ?
23:03.22AlexAnteMachinakeyra, is Koshie crazy?
23:03.39Koshiedon't say heil :(
23:04.20alias_dubsmurdered keyra...cops are knoking at the door
23:04.58AlexAnteMachinaalias_dubs, dont type that loud .... they are surveiling the internet!!!
23:05.23alias_dubswaitin' for them
23:06.42AlexAnteMachinaI'm sure there will be a Mr. Smith showing up pretty soon.
23:06.53wasynytwell done alias_dubs
23:07.00wasynytapt give alias_dubs a cookie
23:07.01aptACTION gives alias_dubs a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
23:07.36wasynytKoshie, what about French?
23:07.51Koshiewasynyt, forget
23:08.10alias_dubsKoshie thinks everybody is french ;)
23:08.15wasynytforgets
23:08.20Koshiealias_dubs, EVERYBODY IS FRENCH
23:08.21AlexAnteMachinawasynyt, ... c'mon... wrong channel
23:08.24KoshieC'EST L'AXE DU BIEN !
23:08.30wasynytis from Finland
23:08.36AlexAnteMachinafrench, french....
23:08.45AlexAnteMachinago to #blowjob
23:08.53wasynyt-_-
23:08.55AlexAnteMachinathere youll get that
23:09.19Koshie:p
23:09.23KoshieJoke dudes !
23:09.39AlexAnteMachinahas no Humor he knew of....
23:09.48Koshie:)
23:10.08wasynyt:)
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23:19.01PcccPbb all
23:22.18DronAn[BY]bb
23:22.22LinuxNITbb
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23:23.44Elive_user68_esesto q onda?
23:23.57Elive_user68_esestoy desde el live cd testeando elive
23:24.25alias_dubsElive_user68_es, what do you think of it?
23:25.03Elive_user68_esnice!
23:25.28Elive_user68_esi like the minimalism
23:25.55KoshieElive_user68_es, So you will like Elive :)
23:25.57KoshieOr love it.
23:26.59Elive_user68_esyeah
23:27.09Elive_user68_esi hope my pc work fast
23:27.14Elive_user68_esbecause is old (N)
23:27.29KoshieElive_user68_es, What is it ?
23:27.36Koshie512mb ? 256 ?
23:27.47alias_dubsElive runs on 128 mb RAM machine and uses less than the 50 % of it... and this is GOOD !
23:28.01keyraalias_dubs: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
23:28.07Elive_user68_esone of 512 and ond of 246 ddr dimm 333mhzr
23:28.15Elive_user68_es256*
23:28.17KoshieElive_user68_es, I think it works :)
23:28.41Elive_user68_esyeah, i'm testing msn, xchat and firifox
23:28.58KoshieMSN is the shit my friend :D
23:29.04KoshieEnjoy Jabber :)
23:29.16Elive_user68_esyeah, but i'm from Argentina
23:29.29Elive_user68_esand here EVERIBODY use it
23:29.45Elive_user68_esy hate him, but.. there is nathing that i can do :(
23:29.54Elive_user68_esnothig*
23:30.05Elive_user68_esnothing, fuk haha
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23:31.25alias_dubsI had to change the font in msn
23:31.37alias_dubscouldn't the default one ;)
23:31.38KoshieElive_user68_es, In france too !
23:31.44KoshieEverybody use MSN
23:31.50KoshieBut I've forget it
23:31.59KoshieAnd my best friend use Jabber for me :)
23:32.14KoshieThe real friend :D
23:32.18KoshieAnd my girl friend too
23:32.22Elive_user68_estha's a FRIEND
23:32.22KoshieAll my girl friend :p
23:32.36KoshieElive_user68_es, at the beginning they don't want
23:32.40KoshieBut with time...
23:32.45KoshieSome month ;)
23:33.15Elive_user68_esyes, but here in argentina, the people loves msn ¬¬
23:33.27Elive_user68_esso i have to use it anyway
23:35.03KoshieElive_user68_es, in france too
23:35.07KoshiePeople just know MSN
23:35.16KoshieOther is the shit for the french.
23:35.17Koshie;)
23:35.53Elive_user68_esit's official: i'd like elive
23:36.06Elive_user68_eshaha
23:36.17Koshie:)
23:38.23Elive_user68_eshey men
23:38.30Elive_user68_esi have a cuestion for ya
23:39.22Elive_user68_esi have windows in my computer, but i want elive.. so, can i installed whitout touch my windows OS?
23:39.36keyraElive_user68_es: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems
23:39.58Elive_user68_esmy sister use it and don't like linux very much -.-
23:40.30Elive_user68_esi know before you guys, i allways use ubuntu or slakware
23:40.39Koshiekeyra is a bot
23:40.41Elive_user68_esbut my famili is windows people
23:40.48KoshieElive_user68_es, you can make a dual-boot
23:40.54keyraKoshie: you think so?
23:40.57KoshieLike an other linux
23:41.05KoshieBut it is Grub-legacy, not the new grub
23:41.05Elive_user68_eshope so
23:41.12KoshieIt's Debian man !
23:41.13Koshie:)
23:41.20KoshieDEBIAN IS THE SHIT I KNOW KEYRA
23:41.20Koshie:)
23:41.26keyraKoshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !
23:41.53Elive_user68_esall right, all right =3 you're very funny an friendly people
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23:42.08Elive_user72_enhello!
23:42.10Koshie:)
23:42.12KoshieHI
23:42.14Elive_user68_essorry about  my inglish.. it's very bad
23:42.19KoshieElive_user68_es, me too :D
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23:42.26KoshieBut I understand no problem :)
23:42.31KoshieI'm french you know
23:42.35Elive_user68_esall right
23:42.43Elive_user72_eni am dummie xD
23:43.00Elive_user68_esthe aMSN it's like frozen ¬¬
23:43.00Koshie:)
23:43.08MerMouY_Zinudping Thanatermesis Thana
23:43.14KoshieElive_user68_es, It's a message of God
23:43.14Elive_user72_enpues mola el elive eh?
23:43.18Elive_user72_enjajaja
23:43.29xoriosKoshie, you are running elive?
23:43.42Koshiexorios, yes, I'm on, why ?
23:43.54Elive_user68_esi don't know
23:43.56xoriosnan comme ça, par curiosité  ;)
23:43.59Elive_user68_esi'd kill the proces
23:44.06Koshiexorios, :)
23:44.07Elive_user68_esso i gonna try again
23:44.18Koshiekillall fuckingamsn
23:44.23alias_dubsElive_user68_es, may be because you are in live mode...
23:44.26Avopoc-haha
23:44.32Avopoc-it's probable
23:44.39Koshie:)
23:44.46KoshieElive is very beautiful and fast.
23:44.51Avopoc-my god.. it's beatiful! :D
23:44.58KoshieAvopoc-, use ecomorph
23:45.00Koshie;)
23:45.03Koshiekeyra, ecomorph
23:45.11xorioswell, I tried it in "live" this afternoon
23:45.12keyraKoshie: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
23:45.14Avopoc-i had ubuntu whit enlightment, but this is better
23:45.16Elive_user72_enmola la verdad es que si
23:45.33Elive_user72_enubuntu no tiene nada que hacer
23:45.36KoshieAvopoc-, I've never use Ubuntu and Enlightenment, but I'm happy on elive.
23:46.03xoriosit's fast, it's quite beautiful but I found the configuration menus er... not that intuitive!
23:46.07Elive_user72_ennormal :)
23:46.11Koshiexorios, si si
23:46.14Koshieclique gauche :)
23:46.22Koshieconfiguration
23:46.28Koshiexorios, c'est juste un manque d'habitude
23:46.35Koshieje suis dessus depuis 2 jours, je commence à m'y faire !
23:46.36Avopoc-tomorrow i'll be here, but not from livcd anymore ;)
23:46.37xoriosyep, mais comparé au style dépouillé de Gnome...
23:46.44Koshiexorios, c'pas pareil du tout
23:46.46KoshiePense pas GNOME
23:46.47Elive_user72_enis very easy
23:46.49Elive_user72_enjejeje
23:46.51Koshiesinon t'es mort :)
23:46.55KoshieC'comme tout
23:46.58KoshieOublie tes habitudes
23:47.08KoshieCréer t'en des nouvelles, et garde ce qui t'es indispensable
23:47.23KoshiePerso je navique entre mes fenêtres que par les bureaux virtuelles
23:47.29Koshiealors qu'avant j'avais tout sur le même bureau
23:47.52Elive_user72_enmucho mejor en live
23:48.01Koshiexorios, laisse toi quelques jours ;)
23:48.01Elive_user72_enlas maquinas virtuales van muy mal
23:48.10Elive_user72_enal menos en equipos no muy potentes
23:48.13xoriostout à l'heure j'essayais de passer au bureau viruel de la ligne du bas avec Ctrl+Alt+flèche bas...
23:48.17Koshieo_o
23:48.19xoriossans succès !
23:48.23xoriosles habitudes...
23:48.24Koshiealt + F*
23:48.25Koshie:D
23:48.27Koshieou
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23:48.40KoshieCtrl + alt + flèche gauche / droite
23:49.01KoshiePerso mes 3 applications les plus utilisées sont sur les trois premiers bureau
23:49.03Koshiefacile d'accès
23:49.07xoriosouais, gauche et droite c'était "comme d'habitude"
23:49.08Koshiej'utilise rarement les autres
23:49.14Koshiebah tu peux hein
23:49.28Koshieça me rappelle irssi ;)
23:49.40Elive_user72_enque tal el jdownloader con elive?
23:49.52alias_dubsno problemn
23:49.57KoshieElive_user72_en, Jdownload <3
23:49.58Koshie+er
23:49.59alias_dubsi use it evberyday ;)
23:50.02xoriosKoshie, t'as essayé des applis Gnome ou KDE sous e17 ?
23:50.06xoriosça donne quoi ?
23:50.06Koshiealias_dubs, il est dans les dépôts ?
23:50.10Koshiexorios, ça poutre
23:50.17Koshieenfin j'ai xchat, gajim et rhythmbox
23:50.19KoshieAh
23:50.23Koshieet gnome-system-monitor :)
23:50.28alias_dubsnon je pense pas
23:50.28Koshieça marche très bien ;)
23:50.28Gran_Gerok How Can I know if the Ecomorph module is loaded?
23:50.29xoriosj'avais entendu dire que l'intégration GTK était pas top
23:50.38Koshiexorios, ça dépend, tu veux un screen ?
23:50.53xoriosyep, si ça te dérange pas
23:50.57alias_dubsmais ca marche ac java donc pas de souci
23:50.58xorios;)
23:51.30alias_dubsxorios, il suffit de prendre un theme e17 et un theme gtk qui se ressemblent...
23:51.52xoriosquand je pense que je parlais en anglais tout à l'heure ici
23:52.06KoshieJe t'en fait deux ou trois xorios ;)
23:52.07xoriosc'est un nid de francophones en fait oO
23:52.08KoshieQue tu es une idée !
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23:52.13Koshiexorios, ouais, et d'anglais
23:52.16Koshieun peu d'espagnole
23:52.25Elive_user72_enole!
23:52.27Elive_user72_enjejeje
23:53.04Koshiexorios, http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1267833175.png
23:53.21Koshiehttp://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1267833194.png xorios
23:53.38Elive_user72_enla pena es que no este disponible una version de elive con wubi :)
23:53.46Koshiehttp://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1267833219.png xorios
23:53.50Koshieencore deux ou trois :)
23:53.53keyraElive_user72_en: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
23:54.02Avopoc-user72 de donde eres?
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23:54.12Koshiehttp://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1267833239.png xorios
23:54.13Elive_user72_enmadrid
23:54.31Koshiehttp://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1267833264.png la dernière xorios
23:54.58xoriosmerci Koshie
23:55.11xoriosc'est quoi la dernière ?  Gajim ?
23:55.12Koshiexorios, alors, t'en pense quoi ?
23:55.13Elive_user72_enkeyra no entiendo :(
23:55.14KoshieOuais :)
23:55.21KoshieTu trouve ça merdique comme intégration toi ?
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23:55.38xoriosnan c'est pas mal en fait
23:56.00xoriosça c'est peut-être amélioré depuis le commentaire que j'avais lu
23:56.06Koshiexorios, ;)
23:56.14xoriost'as pas une appli KDE en stock ?
23:56.14Koshiey'a juste UNE appli qui est vraiment laide
23:56.18Koshiec'est l'éditeur de texte
23:56.20Koshiexorios, je peux installer ça
23:56.21Koshiewait
23:56.24Koshie... Tu veux quoi ?
23:56.49xoriossais pas
23:56.56xoriosun truc en Qt4
23:57.00KoshieAmarok ?
23:57.02KoshieHeu
23:57.05Koshiec'est Lenny garçon :)
23:57.08Koshieje sais pas si...
23:57.22KoshieJ'ai Iceweasel 3.0.6 par exemple ;)
23:58.04Avopoc-well it's my goodbye for today people
23:58.26Koshiexorios, j'installe Amarok
23:58.33xoriosatta
23:58.45KoshieNon, j'installe amarok :p
23:58.56xoriostu saurais faire Kate à la place ?
23:59.09xoriosouais je suis chiant !  :p
23:59.25Koshietu laisse amarok s'installer pour le moment
23:59.30Koshiep-ê kate, si tu es sâge.
23:59.35alias_dubsca dépend, elle est bien foutue?
23:59.44alias_dubsok ok je m'en vais
23:59.55Koshiealias_dubs, tu sais quoi
23:59.57KoshieJ'y ai pensé :)

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