IRC log for #elive on 20100308

`00:00.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, thanks for the link, btw... the commercial thing needs to be removed from the license`
`00:00.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`but then, the CC license is useless`
`00:00.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`00:01.21`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok. Done`
`00:01.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`and copy those lines and past to thana's private and to my privat as well`
`00:01.45`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, lo habias visto?`
`00:02.10`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Or just in my for now`
`00:02.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, no, acabo de verlo, de cuando es ?`
`00:02.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, paste-bin`
`00:02.33`	`DaRtHo`	`sunday 7`
`00:02.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`00:02.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`let me update the license of Elive ...`
`00:02.52`	`mathesis`	`hoy Thanatermesis`
`00:03.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`listos :)`
`00:03.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.elivecd.org/Help/License`
`00:03.27`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok. How can I copy the lines? I don't have mouse, it's the touchpad`
`00:03.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahra la editarÃ© tranquilamente`
`00:03.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`keyra copypaste`
`00:03.58`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time`
`00:04.44`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oh :)`
`00:05.07`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Gran_Ger, Hilight this lines`
`00:06.07`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`than point mouse cursor to my privat and than press both (left+right) buttons of touchpad`
`00:07.24`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok. I'm using pastebin`
`00:07.29`	`Gran_Ger`	`here is the lin`
`00:07.33`	`Gran_Ger`	`http://pastebin.com/ReGNaqYt`
`00:07.34`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`ok`
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`00:07.53`	`Gran_Ger`	`the 'k' key is not working properly`
`00:08.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, tu puedes responder a ese mailing list ?`
`00:08.51`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: The mailing list for elive is on http://groups.google.com/group/elive-testers . Its specially used to talk about new development versions, testing hardware and features`
`00:08.53`	`mathesis`	`no estoy suscrito ahi`
`00:09.07`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Gran_Ger, show dmesg \| tail`
`00:09.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya :(`
`00:09.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`necesitarÃa alguien que la responda`
`00:09.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu DaRtHo ?`
`00:09.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, gpsca, it should work with Elive`
`00:09.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`mplayer tv:// -fps 15`
`00:09.44`	`DaRtHo`	`tampoco`
`00:09.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get install cheese Gran_Ger`
`00:11.09`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, por que no respondes tu?`
`00:11.12`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, it'll bring some drivers?`
`00:11.22`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok. here is the link of the dmesg`
`00:11.29`	`Gran_Ger`	`http://pastebin.com/pVpJqbWW`
`00:11.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, no estoy suscrito`
`00:11.38`	`mathesis`	`suscribase`
`00:11.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get install cheese Gran_Ger, DronAn[BY]_eeepc`
`00:11.50`	`Gran_Ger`	`and Thanatermesis. Cheesee its already instaled`
`00:12.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, bah, no tengo tiempo para eso, voy a cambiar la licencia y arreando`
`00:12.22`	`Gran_Ger`	`Before Ask. I installed first Cheese`
`00:12.32`	`Gran_Ger`	`And Try it`
`00:12.46`	`Gran_Ger`	`But Can't see anything into it`
`00:13.00`	`Gran_Ger`	`there is just a black square`
`00:13.12`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, ahora que licencia tendra elive?`
`00:14.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Gran_Ger, then not looks like to work, try to google your camera to see if there's any problem with it`
`00:14.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`your driver looks like to be gpsca`
`00:14.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`google that too`
`00:14.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`Gran_Ger, ^`
`00:14.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, en realidad es algo muy complejo... dame unos minutos que lo escriba y verÃ¡s lo que me refiero ;)`
`00:15.02`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok.`
`00:15.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, pero vaya, seguro que le gusta a todo el mundo la nueva :)`
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`00:15.32`	`mathesis`	`jejejje Thanatermesis`
`00:15.44`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Gran_Ger, http://gabrielstein.org/blog/`
`00:15.46`	`mathesis`	`tienes algun demo en video`
`00:16.00`	`Elive_user97_es`	`hey people, i'm installing Elive but i can't because i have to pay for ir, WTF?`
`00:16.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, nuevo ? no... aun no`
`00:16.18`	`Elive_user97_es`	`Tengo q pagar para poder usar elive?`
`00:16.22`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`but there is for Suse. It's just different commands`
`00:16.29`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`and i'll see now`
`00:16.48`	`mathesis`	`Elive_user97_es, pagar =! donar`
`00:16.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt faq free is http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`00:16.52`	`apt`	`okay, Thanatermesis`
`00:16.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt faq free`
`00:16.56`	`apt`	`faq free is, like, http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`00:16.58`	`Elive_user97_es`	`pero no puedo pagar`
`00:17.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt tell Thanatermesis about faq free`
`00:17.06`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: the FAQ of Elive is at http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ/`
`00:17.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`00:17.15`	`Elive_user97_es`	`instalo esto porq es software libre`
`00:17.20`	`Elive_user97_es`	`si no pago no puedo instalarlo'`
`00:17.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt tell Elive_user97_es about faq free`
`00:17.21`	`Elive_user97_es`	`?`
`00:17.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Gran_Ger, BTW in terminal gstreamer-properties`
`00:17.42`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)`
`00:17.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt free invitations is http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`00:17.51`	`apt`	`okay, Thanatermesis`
`00:17.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`and there try to play with input video device`
`00:17.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt tell Elive_user97_es about free invitations`
`00:18.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, useful apt bot too :)`
`00:18.04`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`00:18.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user97_es, sabes ingles ?`
`00:18.37`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, learn him how to copy-paste from/in terminal`
`00:18.51`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time`
`00:18.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, keyra has answer for "copypaste"`
`00:18.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`00:18.57`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oh`
`00:19.09`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, regalame un screenshot de la nueva elive`
`00:19.11`	`mathesis`	`:)`
`00:19.14`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`lol`
`00:19.28`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`copypaste`
`00:19.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user97_es, quien te ha dicho que "software libre" significa gratis ? espero que no haya sido ubuntu :) hechale un vistazo a esto http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html`
`00:19.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, DaRtHo`
`00:20.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo asustamos...`
`00:20.18`	`mathesis`	`xD`
`00:20.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`quizÃ¡s le ofendiÃ³ lo de ubuntu`
`00:20.23`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`00:20.47`	`DaRtHo`	`diÃ³$ no paga las cuentas xd`
`00:20.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`como dijo un developer de debian en la ultima debconf... todos los problemas surgieron desde que a un cosmonauta se le ocurriÃ³ la magnifica idea de regalar CD's por todo el mundo`
`00:21.07`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, no le podrias agregar a a elive un punto de venta xD`
`00:21.14`	`mathesis`	`openbravo pos`
`00:21.23`	`mathesis`	`me vendria genial xD`
`00:21.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`copypaste`
`00:21.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, DaRtHo habÃ©is leido esto ? me gusta porque es incluso violento :) (fijaros que la pagina es GNU.org) http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html`
`00:22.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, you killed keyra ? :(`
`00:22.16`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:( Me?`
`00:22.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`copy-paste`
`00:22.57`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time`
`00:23.02`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`herewego`
`00:23.04`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`00:23.20`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`hi or she is alive`
`00:24.11`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, found about cam install but for Suse :( What is the cam repo?`
`00:24.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, never seen it?`
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`00:24.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`hu ?`
`00:24.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`confused`
`00:24.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermes http://gabrielstein.org/blog/is,`
`00:24.57`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`http://gabrielstein.org/blog/`
`00:25.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, i have just one point for the license that is not free... all the rest is "do what you fuck want to do" :)`
`00:25.29`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`00:25.34`	`Gran_Ger`	`Ok. I'm playing with the Video, but still not working`
`00:26.02`	`yebyen`	`hmm`
`00:26.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Gran_Ger, http://gabrielstein.org/blog/`
`00:26.54`	`DaRtHo`	`la gente deberia leer eso primero ahahaha`
`00:27.14`	`Gran_Ger`	`I'm reading`
`00:27.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`Gran_Ger, if is this your camera you can follow this howto, i have needed to do something similar one time for a girl that has a stupid non-free drivers camera :)`
`00:27.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`but it has worked finally, of course =)`
`00:28.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaRtHo, si pero la gente estÃ¡ muy mal acostumbrada, ese documento dice muchas verdades y bien claras :)`
`00:28.31`	`DaRtHo`	`sep`
`00:28.31`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`00:29.06`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Gran_Ger, you need this site http://www.linuxtv.org/hg`
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`00:30.50`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, edit is points`
`00:31.22`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, el problema lo tienes con debian`
`00:32.01`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, ya checaste los terminos de la licencia de debian completos?`
`00:33.05`	`mathesis`	`mas concreto en la Licencia GPL que usa debian etch`
`00:33.18`	`mathesis`	`ahi tendrias que mirar que estas violando`
`00:33.51`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, contacta a richard stallman`
`00:34.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, creo que voy a explicar la licencia de Elive de forma tan clara que nadie de debian podrÃ¡ decir nada al respecto :)`
`00:34.25`	`mathesis`	`:)`
`00:34.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`solo me preocupa un punto... mas que nada, no estoy seguro si puedo hacer esto o no`
`00:35.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:35.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`^`
`00:35.13`	`mathesis`	`cual punto?`
`00:35.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`More info (spanish) http://www.legalventure.com/clausulamariposa/`
`00:35.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu que opinas DaRtHo ? :P`
`00:36.14`	`DaRtHo`	`esa es genial`
`00:36.32`	`DaRtHo`	`aunque los colores de la pagina inquietan xd`
`00:36.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`let me add a small piece to it :)`
`00:37.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:37.09`	`mathesis`	`suena buena`
`00:37.23`	`DaRtHo`	`no creo que haya nada en contra de eso`
`00:37.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaRtHo, me referÃa a esta parte de la licencia de elive: It is forbidden the use of Elive for any aggression, war or crimes against humanity and/or genocide.`
`00:37.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaRtHo, no estoy seguro, se supone que si usas software gpl no puedes poner esta restricciÃ³n, aunque no estoy seguro`
`00:37.53`	`DaRtHo`	`no ?`
`00:37.55`	`DaRtHo`	`por quÃ© ?`
`00:38.00`	`DaRtHo`	`mmmmm`
`00:38.14`	`DaRtHo`	`creo que ahÃ estaria lo del tema de google y la prohibicion en china o algo asi`
`00:38.17`	`DaRtHo`	`xD no recuerdo bien`
`00:38.46`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, habria que leer la GPL completa`
`00:39.01`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, preguntale a stallman`
`00:39.05`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`00:39.12`	`DaRtHo`	`ahora, serÃa por eso que entrÃ³ al canal ?`
`00:39.13`	`DaRtHo`	`o.0`
`00:39.36`	`mathesis`	`quien entro DaRtHo ?`
`00:41.15`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Mr.Stallman`
`00:41.17`	`DaRtHo`	`rm`
`00:41.27`	`DaRtHo`	`the richar muÃ±equito stallman`
`00:41.32`	`DaRtHo`	`richard*`
`00:41.34`	`mathesis`	`cuando entro?`
`00:41.50`	`DaRtHo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:42.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, no me preocupa mucho`
`00:42.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo lo tengo claro`
`00:42.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:42.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`that's all :)`
`00:42.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`if anybody has a problem, must contact Thanatermesis`
`00:42.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`hides`
`00:42.31`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`00:42.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`00:42.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`ÐÑ`
`00:43.02`	`DaRtHo`	`which forbids commercial use of the distribution`
`00:43.04`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`00:43.12`	`DaRtHo`	`te estas haciendo rico para alguien ahahah`
`00:43.31`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, me quede esperando el screenshot de la ultima xD`
`00:45.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`well`
`00:45.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`New License of Elive writed :)`
`00:45.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`the old was very old...`
`00:46.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`very bad points`
`00:46.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`i hope that this one is better`
`00:46.08`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Ð)`
`00:46.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`please i need feedbacks !!! DronAn[BY]_eeepc, DaRtHo, mathesis`
`00:46.15`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Ð»Ð¸Ð½Ðº?`
`00:46.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.elivecd.org/Help/License`
`00:46.22`	`DaRtHo`	`where is ?`
`00:46.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`read it entirely and give your feedback :)`
`00:47.13`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`This license needs to be updated/modified/changed with the new release of Elive, please wait`
`00:47.16`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`?`
`00:47.20`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`)`
`00:47.49`	`joe75`	`1Like I have say`
`00:48.08`	`joe75`	`change that to Like I have said`
`00:48.11`	`joe75`	`:)`
`00:48.36`	`joe75`	`looks good`
`00:49.21`	`DaRtHo`	`Thanatermesis, estÃ¡ bastante claro`
`00:49.36`	`DaRtHo`	`ahora lo que no entiendo es el problema comercial y el debian :p`
`00:49.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`You can't: make your computer fly out the window (but over windows)`
`00:49.57`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`00:50.19`	`DaRtHo`	`o.0`
`00:50.31`	`DaRtHo`	`you can install it on your mom's pc`
`00:50.32`	`DaRtHo`	`hahahahah`
`00:50.41`	`DaRtHo`	`i have installed on my dad's laptop :Ã±p`
`00:50.46`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Yes and it :)`
`00:51.24`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`I think it is good license`
`00:51.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaRtHo, because Elive has used before the CC license (non-commercial entry)`
`00:52.02`	`DaRtHo`	`aaaaaaa`
`00:52.03`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`i know nothing about licenses but i defenetly like this one :)`
`00:52.13`	`DaRtHo`	`hahhaha`
`00:52.16`	`DaRtHo`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc++`
`00:52.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`00:52.20`	`DaRtHo`	`keyra doesnt have karma ?`
`00:52.21`	`DaRtHo`	`xD`
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`00:54.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`keyra has karma +10 :)`
`00:55.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`joe75, done :), but i think that it needs a bit more of untarzanization`
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`00:56.04`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, Yes :)`
`00:56.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Tomorrow`
`00:56.11`	`K_Dallas`	`Hi guys! I had a chance to try the LiveCD and was pretty impressed. The only question that I have at this stage is how elive compares to MoonOS? One is Debian-based, the other Ubuntu-based, both use E7 and as far as I have tested, very very speedy. However, since elive has been around much longer a time, I ask myself`
`00:56.25`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !`
`00:56.27`	`K_Dallas`	`if someone has tested them side-by-side for stability etc?`
`00:56.44`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`no`
`00:56.45`	`K_Dallas`	`keyra, oh! I thought elive was debian based, my bad`
`00:57.04`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:) Elive is Debia based`
`00:57.15`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`*debian`
`00:57.24`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, is frik`
`00:57.30`	`DaRtHo`	`yep`
`00:57.32`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`apt, slap keyra`
`00:57.33`	`apt`	`ACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`00:57.33`	`K_Dallas`	`so keyra, you are not really helping as i see`
`00:57.36`	`DaRtHo`	`keyra, my love =************`
`00:57.46`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: But... it's true... :(`
`00:57.52`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`00:58.00`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville`
`00:58.28`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`So. MoonOS... I prefere Elive`
`00:58.39`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`And I prefer Debian`
`00:59.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, stability of Elive ? well... an old version of Elive has turned between 500 days without any reboot or error until the son of this person has accidentaly clicked the power button while he was at work`
`00:59.07`	`K_Dallas`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, I liked MoonOS 3 but it was buggy. So waiting for 4 which was supposed to be out last month`
`00:59.16`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb`
`00:59.53`	`K_Dallas`	`Thanatermesis, that is interesting but I wodner if it was used for daily uses or served as a server, ...`
`00:59.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, i have wanted to do something before the release of topaz: found a bug in Elive and you got an invitation code lol`
`01:00.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, it can be used for anything it is based in debian so is perfect to use as server... daily use ? absotely`
`01:00.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`absolutely*`
`01:00.32`	`K_Dallas`	`btw, Thanatermesis if I make a donation, would I get to install it without invitation?`
`01:00.46`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`01:00.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`the invitatin is only for those that can't pay the donation`
`01:00.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`keyra has more details about that ^`
`01:01.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`so... yes`
`01:01.13`	`K_Dallas`	`keyra, I read that and I need to write an article which I don't ,mind but I don't know where to publish it`
`01:01.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`you will found the donation thing in the installation process`
`01:01.27`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: try http://google.com/linux`
`01:01.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:01.32`	`K_Dallas`	`and if I really like it, I would be glad to pay for it`
`01:01.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`spank keyra hard`
`01:01.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, so... what you want ?`
`01:01.49`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: with a black mask and a whip ? =)`
`01:02.05`	`K_Dallas`	`where to make donation and if i do, do i still need an invitation to install it?`
`01:02.24`	`DaRtHo`	`keyra, my love .. wtf is that! :(`
`01:02.27`	`*** join/#elive yebyen_ (~yebyen@cpe-67-247-180-251.rochester.res.rr.com)`
`01:03.16`	`K_Dallas`	`thinks elive site needs some streamlining but it is just me`
`01:04.14`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`<Thanatermesis> DronAn[BY]_eeepc, i have wanted to do something before the release of topaz: found a bug in Elive and you got an invitation code lol`
`01:04.15`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`?`
`01:05.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, no, you dont need the invitation if you do the donation/payment, you will found the donation thing in the moment of install Elive (it requests you a installer-module that is needed to pay for it)`
`01:05.24`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`01:05.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, just like that, a way to get free invitations and a way to have reports of bugs :)`
`01:05.51`	`K_Dallas`	`Thanatermesis, I see. Is there a minimum and would I need to pay each time a new version it released?`
`01:05.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`oh`
`01:05.55`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: http://bugs.elivecd.org`
`01:05.55`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`01:06.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`like a contest, a race... found a bug and you got free invitations :)`
`01:06.26`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Or article`
`01:06.26`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`01:06.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`easter eggs hunting`
`01:06.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`a bug! winneeeer`
`01:07.29`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`But i donating from time to time anyway. Because i LOVE Elive :)`
`01:07.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, the minimum is actually set to 15 $, this installer-module is valid for any version of 2.0 or higher until the version 3.0`
`01:07.51`	`K_Dallas`	`ok, that is all right`
`01:07.53`	`K_Dallas`	`thanks`
`01:08.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh.. i wonder if Elive releases a version every 6 months (not really the actual case) if is not much to have these 15 minimum value set`
`01:09.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`:) DronAn[BY]_eeepc`
`01:09.59`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`01:10.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Who is Korban Dallas?`
`01:10.34`	`K_Dallas`	`5th element?`
`01:10.37`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Who is Korbain Dallas?`
`01:10.39`	`DaRtHo`	`yeah!`
`01:10.47`	`DaRtHo`	`leelo dallas multipase xD`
`01:10.53`	`K_Dallas`	`lol yeah yeah`
`01:10.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`)`
`01:10.55`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, si eligiera elive para distribuirlo con un point of sales ? hay algun problema`
`01:10.57`	`DaRtHo`	`K_Dallas++`
`01:11.05`	`K_Dallas`	`:) big badaboom`
`01:11.08`	`DaRtHo`	`en la licencia dice que no`
`01:11.14`	`mathesis`	`por ahora habia implementado el punto de venta en ubuntu`
`01:11.28`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Bruce?`
`01:11.40`	`DaRtHo`	`Thanatermesis, con la universidad lo que vas a tener es testers con una variedad grande de laptops xD`
`01:11.58`	`DaRtHo`	`y a mi me van a tener de los pelos preguntandome todo el dia cosas >.<`
`01:11.58`	`DaRtHo`	`xD`
`01:12.23`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`go to googletranslate again :D`
`01:12.37`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`01:12.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`<mathesis> Thanatermesis, si eligiera elive para distribuirlo con un point of sales ? hay algun problema`
`01:12.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`no problema`
`01:13.16`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, por el punto de venta no lo cobro, solo cobro el cargado de la base de datos`
`01:13.26`	`DaRtHo`	`mierda!`
`01:13.30`	`mathesis`	`tampoco cobro por linux`
`01:13.32`	`DaRtHo`	`necesito montar el oracle para el martes!`
`01:13.33`	`DaRtHo`	`xD`
`01:13.53`	`mathesis`	`solo cobro el trabajo de cargar los catalogos de la base de datos`
`01:14.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaRtHo, dile que Elive es intuitivo y que siga su instinto, que no le vas a responder ninguna pregunta xD`
`01:14.18`	`DaRtHo`	`jajajaja`
`01:14.23`	`DaRtHo`	`son como 40 personas xD`
`01:14.29`	`DaRtHo`	`tengo que ponerlo en autoresponse`
`01:14.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, menos problema aun :)`
`01:15.12`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, cuando sacas la siguiente elive?`
`01:15.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`ja`
`01:15.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`01:15.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso va a requerir un poco de trabajo interno, quiero cambiar unas cuantas cosas primero antes de que se pueda hacer una nueva version`
`01:15.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi que... habrÃ¡ que esperar`
`01:15.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`no lo se :)`
`01:15.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`quizÃ¡s pronto`
`01:15.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`quizÃ¡s tarde`
`01:16.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`espero que se puedan sacar versiones cada 6 meses`
`01:16.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`estarÃa bien`
`01:16.46`	`DaRtHo`	`mmmmm`
`01:16.54`	`DaRtHo`	`a mi me gustaria una elive - sid`
`01:16.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Interesting how can i forward this chanel to google translate?`
`01:16.56`	`DaRtHo`	`o algo asi xD`
`01:17.16`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`01:17.30`	`*** join/#elive koshie (~koshie@2a01:e35:2f3f:dc50:223:8bff:fe5f:8294)`
`01:17.32`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, que java hay en elive?`
`01:17.53`	`mathesis`	`el punto de venta que implemento requiere de java1.6`
`01:18.16`	`K_Dallas`	`by the way, why elive doesn't come with a 64 bit version and it has to be downloaded after the installation? (just curious)`
`01:18.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`$ java -version`
`01:18.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`java version "1.6.0_12"`
`01:18.30`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.`
`01:18.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaRtHo, bueno... testing mas bien`
`01:18.46`	`*** join/#elive elmo40 (~Administr@CPE0017ee09ce6d-CM001bd7a89c28.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`01:18.52`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, unos codes para hacerle donwload`
`01:18.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`o/ elmo40`
`01:19.03`	`elmo40`	`hi Thanatermesis`
`01:19.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, no entendÃ`
`01:19.20`	`K_Dallas`	`keyra, so basically you mean 64bit is waste of money?`
`01:19.24`	`DaRtHo`	`con java y el elive no problems :P`
`01:19.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, i have something for that you made a fast review of the tarzanic :)`
`01:19.29`	`mathesis`	`codigos para hacer download xD`
`01:19.34`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: my friend does not 'trust' online donating... but I don't know how he could send you money for Topaz!`
`01:19.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, i have rewrited entirely the license of Elive`
`01:19.44`	`elmo40`	`ok, Gobby?`
`01:19.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, 3g4o8b6b7y0 opened`
`01:20.00`	`elmo40`	`K_Dallas: ok`
`01:20.01`	`elmo40`	`ok`
`01:20.03`	`elmo40`	`:P`
`01:20.19`	`DaRtHo`	`elmo40, u were living on bogota ?`
`01:20.28`	`mathesis`	`free code to elive download`
`01:20.42`	`keyra`	`mathesis: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`01:21.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, waste of money no, 64 bits is a good machine, but to work in 64 bits is a waste of ram, there's no optimization, it is only useful when there's a very professional and specific application made to work with 64 bits, only enterprises with specific needs, etc`
`01:21.40`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, :)`
`01:21.52`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel`
`01:21.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, email ?`
`01:22.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`invite`
`01:22.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`thank you keyra :)`
`01:22.18`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`free install`
`01:22.32`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`01:22.46`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`copy-paste`
`01:22.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`keyra, shut up`
`01:22.50`	`K_Dallas`	`Thanatermesis, that I understand but wouldn't more RAM means running more aplpications simultaneously, easier?`
`01:22.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`01:23.00`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time`
`01:23.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh`
`01:23.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`keyra, shutup`
`01:23.14`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: :-#`
`01:23.17`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`sorry it's me`
`01:23.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:23.28`	`koshie`	`It's 02:23, go to you beds lot of nerds !`
`01:23.31`	`koshie`	`Â°r`
`01:23.34`	`koshie`	`+r*`
`01:23.35`	`mathesis`	`mathersis@gmail.com`
`01:23.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, running software in 64 bits mode requires the double of ram usage`
`01:23.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`"by nothing in exchange"`
`01:23.51`	`DaRtHo`	`keyra, honey...`
`01:23.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`it just requires double of ram`
`01:24.04`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, exactly ? Are you sure ?`
`01:24.06`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`I don't like 64 arch`
`01:24.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, exactly no, depends of the compiler, but think on it about a 90 % of accuracy :)`
`01:24.24`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`it is buggy`
`01:24.31`	`koshie`	`ok`
`01:24.32`	`K_Dallas`	`Thanatermesis, well, I am really no expert. All I can say is that Win7 64 runs much smoother for me than Win7 32 on the same laptop`
`01:24.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, te mando una ?`
`01:24.46`	`mathesis`	`si`
`01:24.54`	`K_Dallas`	`(and only 4G of RAM)`
`01:24.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`listo mathesis`
`01:25.05`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, para bajar los otros cd ?`
`01:25.08`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel`
`01:25.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, nerds sleeps when sun comes out :)`
`01:25.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh, comes in ?`
`01:25.21`	`K_Dallas`	`keyra, yes, i read that during the installation`
`01:25.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`when sun appears :)`
`01:25.35`	`keyra`	`K_Dallas: :)`
`01:25.37`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, eheh`
`01:25.45`	`koshie`	`I've a life, not for me ;D`
`01:25.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`K_Dallas, well, i dont know much about windows, is a difficult system for me :)`
`01:25.58`	`K_Dallas`	`:)`
`01:26.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`is a pain`
`01:26.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, cualos otros cd ?`
`01:26.14`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, eh`
`01:26.33`	`koshie`	`Si Windows n'Ã©tait pas si mauvais... Je serais pas sur GNU/Linux aujourd'hui :)...`
`01:26.37`	`koshie`	`Donc merci Microsoft !!`
`01:26.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, check out the new license of elive :) http://www.elivecd.org/Help/License`
`01:26.48`	`*** join/#elive Elive_user51_en (~Elive_use@173-23-110-156.client.mchsi.com)`
`01:26.52`	`koshie`	`Ok`
`01:26.55`	`Elive_user51_en`	`hi`
`01:27.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, Ã§a c'est vrai :)`
`01:27.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi Elive_user51_en`
`01:27.06`	`mathesis`	`juegos y openoffice`
`01:27.08`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`license keyra`
`01:27.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, not exists new bonus disks for Elive Topaz yet`
`01:28.01`	`Elive_user51_en`	`new here`
`01:28.01`	`koshie`	`"# Install Elive in your mom's computer. "`
`01:28.11`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D ÐÑ`
`01:28.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user51_en, welcome to Elive then :)`
`01:28.32`	`koshie`	`"It is forbidden the use of Elive for any aggression, war or crimes against humanity and/or genocide. For more details about this clause: http://www.legalventure.com/clausulamariposa/ (spanish version). Im totally against anything related with the war so I don't want to collaborate on any sense with it. "`
`01:28.41`	`koshie`	`C'est pas contre la GPL Ã§a tiens? :)`
`01:28.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, peut etre`
`01:28.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`je men fout lol`
`01:28.56`	`koshie`	`xD`
`01:29.03`	`koshie`	`Une joke dirons-nous.`
`01:29.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`non pas vraiment`
`01:29.19`	`koshie`	`:o`
`01:29.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'etait dans la ancienne license de Elive`
`01:29.26`	`koshie`	`Ouais j'ai vu`
`01:29.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`il i avait des autres choses`
`01:29.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`de fait c'etait une CC (creative commons)`
`01:29.34`	`koshie`	`Du genre ?`
`01:29.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`jai tout enlevÃ©`
`01:29.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`sauf Ã§a :)`
`01:29.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`sauf ce point`
`01:29.52`	`koshie`	`mais c'est contre la GPL :)`
`01:29.58`	`koshie`	`Et la BSD`
`01:29.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`peut etre`
`01:30.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`je sait pas`
`01:30.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`on verÃ¡ :)`
`01:30.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`j'attend les critiques ;)`
`01:30.07`	`koshie`	`Je devrai te balancer, j'aurai une rÃ©compense.`
`01:30.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`hha`
`01:30.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`trop tard koshie :)`
`01:30.26`	`koshie`	`Je pense, puisqu'avec la GPL tu autorise Ã faire n'importe quel usage avec ce logiciel.`
`01:30.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/03/msg00012.html`
`01:30.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, ^`
`01:30.45`	`koshie`	`Dans les limites des lois en vigueur dans le pays ;)`
`01:31.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`donc il faudrait metre un ptit script... if echo $HOSTNAME \| grep -q ".gov." && rm -rf /`
`01:31.32`	`koshie`	`Il a raison tu sais...`
`01:31.34`	`DaRtHo`	`bbl`
`01:31.51`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: if you want to not remove accidentaly anything, since the version 1.9.45 there's a special feature, use 'del' instead of 'rm' and see :)`
`01:31.52`	`koshie`	`^^`
`01:32.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, c'etait l'ancienne license, je viens de la re-Ã©crire completement... avec la CC il i avait un point non-commercial`
`01:32.03`	`koshie`	`Et pour le gÃ©nocide c'est encore une fois anti-GPL/BSD`
`01:32.15`	`koshie`	`Ouais j'avais vu Ã§a et je voulais t'en parler, mais j'ai oubliÃ©.`
`01:32.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`genocide = anti-elive :)`
`01:32.30`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`)`
`01:32.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`spank koshie`
`01:32.56`	`koshie`	`Ouais mais Ã§a reste contre la GPL :)`
`01:32.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`so... its this anti-genocide term anti-gpl ? well... let's see the next critiques...`
`01:33.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`we should invite stallman again to the channel`
`01:33.25`	`koshie`	`Que de la gueule ;).`
`01:33.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`non, il a rentrÃ© Ã§a fait presque une heure ;)`
`01:33.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`regarde`
`01:33.49`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: one more minute`
`01:33.51`	`koshie`	`Genre.`
`01:34.01`	`koshie`	`elmo40 is stallman? :D`
`01:34.13`	`koshie`	`Stallman use GNewSense, not Elive :D`
`01:34.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`--> rm (rm@fsf/member/rm) ha entrado en #elive`
`01:34.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`ta vu ? :)`
`01:34.26`	`koshie`	`Mais genre :D`
`01:34.30`	`mathesis`	`what is Insert here your Installer code?`
`01:34.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, is if you have already it (in file somewhere)`
`01:34.55`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, tiens, petite question. Dans quel pays vis-tu ?`
`01:35.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`spain - barcelona`
`01:35.07`	`koshie`	`Ok :)`
`01:35.24`	`koshie`	`Je devrais me coucher, bordel.`
`01:35.49`	`koshie`	`Pardon, on ne dit pas "bordel" mais "lieu de grande joie".`
`01:35.52`	`elmo40`	`DaRtHo: huh? bogota?`
`01:35.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben non`
`01:35.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`te's pas un bon geek alors`
`01:36.04`	`koshie`	`:'(`
`01:36.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`keyra, elle t'aimera pas ;)`
`01:36.09`	`koshie`	`I've a liiiiife`
`01:36.10`	`koshie`	`Me ;D`
`01:36.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:36.20`	`koshie`	`I've a girl friend :p`
`01:36.25`	`elmo40`	`you what?`
`01:36.26`	`elmo40`	`no`
`01:36.28`	`elmo40`	`you can't`
`01:36.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`me too`
`01:36.32`	`elmo40`	`you use Linux...`
`01:36.34`	`koshie`	`Ok, she's 15... And I'm 18 ;D`
`01:36.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`but she's sleeping lol`
`01:36.39`	`elmo40`	`Linux != girlfriend`
`01:36.45`	`koshie`	`But SHE rape me, REALLY`
`01:36.46`	`koshie`	`:'(`
`01:36.54`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, yeah :o`
`01:37.16`	`koshie`	`Ah your :p`
`01:37.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, no excuse, in real world is YOU who go to jail lol`
`01:37.16`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, :(`
`01:37.16`	`koshie`	`No`
`01:37.17`	`koshie`	`En France la "majoritÃ© sexuelle" est de 15 ans et 3 mois, qu'elle a dÃ©passÃ© :)`
`01:37.24`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`* [rm] (rm@fsf/member/rm): rm rm`
`01:37.24`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`* [rm] #gnewsense`
`01:37.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`* [rm] verne.freenode.net :Newark, NJ, US`
`01:37.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`* [rm] is using a secure connection`
`01:37.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`* [rm] Ð½Ðµ ÑÐ°Ð±Ð¾ÑÐ°ÐµÑ 02:30:59, Ð¿Ð¾Ð´Ð¿Ð¸ÑÐ°Ð½: Sun Mar 7 23:11:20`
`01:37.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`* [rm] is logged in as rm`
`01:37.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, so just him :)`
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`01:37.42`	`DaRtHo`	`elmo40, yep bogota`
`01:37.44`	`Pikachu_2014`	`Bonsoir`
`01:37.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`bonsoir Pikachu_2014`
`01:37.51`	`koshie`	`Pikachu_2014, copain Ã´/`
`01:37.55`	`koshie`	`Is a friend.`
`01:38.01`	`koshie`	`(A Fedorista...)`
`01:38.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, vraiment ? nice!, 18 comme ici c'est quand meme vraiment stupide je trouve`
`01:38.21`	`Pikachu_2014`	`koshie told me a lot of good things about elive ^^`
`01:38.27`	`Pikachu_2014`	`So I came to verify ^^`
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`01:39.08`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, pas qu'un peu.`
`01:39.09`	`koshie`	`Pikachu_2014, Pour commencer, ne dis jamais Debian ici.`
`01:39.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Pikachu_2014, welcome here then :)`
`01:39.09`	`koshie`	`Sinon keyra fait chier.`
`01:39.09`	`Pikachu_2014`	`Thanks :)`
`01:39.09`	`keyra`	`koshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !`
`01:39.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, mieux ne pas dire ubuntu alors lol`
`01:39.09`	`Pikachu_2014`	`koshie, j'en prends note :)`
`01:39.09`	`koshie`	`C'est jolie, c'est rapide, Ã§a bogue avec le reiser4-gzip...`
`01:39.09`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, je suis dessus lÃ :D`
`01:39.10`	`koshie`	`(Ubuntu)`
`01:39.21`	`koshie`	`I will reinstalle Elive with ext4`
`01:39.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, keyra a besoin d'une entry pour Ã§a..`
`01:39.27`	`koshie`	`And not reiser-i-kill-my-wife-fs...`
`01:39.33`	`koshie`	`Ahah`
`01:39.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, use backups if you are going to use ext4`
`01:39.39`	`koshie`	`Salaud :(`
`01:39.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`dont believe in ext4 :)`
`01:40.03`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, I always use backups... Ext4 never erase a file or nothing of this...`
`01:40.08`	`mathesis`	`se fueron todos`
`01:40.12`	`mathesis`	`me quede solo xD`
`01:40.26`	`koshie`	`Et toi Pikachu_2014, t'en pense quoi de l'ext4?`
`01:40.33`	`koshie`	`Lj`
`01:40.39`	`koshie`	`Oups, reboot, noyau Ã jour toussa`
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`01:41.58`	`koshie`	`:)`
`01:42.06`	`koshie`	`Pikachu_2014, j'ai ratÃ© ton discours ?`
`01:42.27`	`Pikachu_2014`	`Ã propos d'ext4 ? Ni bien ni mal, Ã§a marche, peu importe les dÃ©tails`
`01:42.35`	`koshie`	`:)`
`01:42.45`	`koshie`	`Putain`
`01:42.55`	`elmo40`	`DaRtHo: that is in the states? bogota?`
`01:43.08`	`koshie`	`Font chier chez #ubuntu-fr, faut _encore_ (ouais Ã§a leur arrive, pÃ©riode des rÃ¨gles toussa) un tain de compte freenode pour rentrer`
`01:43.22`	`DaRtHo`	`elmo40, ahahah nop`
`01:43.23`	`koshie`	`Comprennent pas que le noob Ã§a va le faire fuir tellement c'pas user-friendly irc ?`
`01:43.25`	`mathesis`	`how can i obtain installer code?`
`01:43.26`	`koshie`	`Vive jabber.`
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`01:43.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, what you think about the new answer of keyra for the word ubuntu ? :)`
`01:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, run the installer`
`01:43.33`	`elmo40`	`mathesis: donate?`
`01:43.34`	`koshie`	`ubuntu`
`01:43.41`	`koshie`	`keyra, ubuntu`
`01:43.42`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: all the problems started when a cosmonaut got the wonderful idea of distribute cd's worldwide`
`01:43.50`	`mathesis`	`installer code != invitation code`
`01:44.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, so run the installer`
`01:44.08`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, do not know. Some ppl love ubuntu`
`01:44.21`	`koshie`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, I love ubuntu :)`
`01:44.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`01:44.31`	`koshie`	`Because is a good OS`
`01:44.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, so how you feel with the answer of keyra ?`
`01:44.43`	`koshie`	`I don't understand what she say :)`
`01:44.50`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`i don't like ubuntu`
`01:44.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`it is shit`
`01:44.58`	`koshie`	`You do :o`
`01:44.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, you unerstand keyra's sentence ?`
`01:45.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:45.01`	`koshie`	`:p`
`01:45.16`	`koshie`	`Ubuntu work at 100% on my computer`
`01:45.18`	`mathesis`	`Error: To download the Installer Module you need to enter an Installer Code, it should not be empty`
`01:45.25`	`mathesis`	`what is installer code?`
`01:45.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, i never got ubuntu installed successfully on any of my computers... that was around 2 years ago that i have tried all the versions, now i dont have time for try any other one lol`
`01:45.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`and it is not a joke`
`01:46.02`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, Like Mandriva on my computer ?`
`01:46.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`mathesis, it was on the small window of installer :)`
`01:46.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`idk :)`
`01:46.11`	`koshie`	`But it work on my other laptop`
`01:46.18`	`koshie`	`And Mandriva is a very good OS.`
`01:46.20`	`koshie`	`Like ubuntu.`
`01:46.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, do not use the invitation now, use it when you are installing`
`01:46.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, lanza el instalador, olvidate de la invitacion ahora`
`01:46.39`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: when will Elive use Grub2?`
`01:46.39`	`mathesis`	`ok`
`01:46.54`	`koshie`	`elmo40, when debian will use grub2? ;)`
`01:46.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, not sure, Elive dont use grub, uses grub-gfxboot, a modification of grub`
`01:46.56`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`elmo40, I see it is another shit`
`01:47.13`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`ppl will move to lilo not to grub2`
`01:47.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, if debian doesnt use grub2 is because they has a good reason to not do it :)`
`01:47.29`	`koshie`	`No`
`01:47.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`im sure :)`
`01:47.35`	`koshie`	`It's because is Debian.`
`01:47.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`01:47.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`i know debian`
`01:47.44`	`koshie`	`But Fedora and ArchLinux don't use Grub2`
`01:47.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`if they dont' use grub2 is because they has good reasons`
`01:47.49`	`keyra`	`koshie: Debian is the SH%$T my friend !`
`01:47.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Debian never use shit`
`01:47.55`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, In testing is Grub2`
`01:47.56`	`koshie`	`;)`
`01:47.57`	`elmo40`	`Sidux uses it.`
`01:48.02`	`koshie`	`But in stable no.`
`01:48.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`let me search you if i found the reason...`
`01:48.11`	`elmo40`	`I don't like it`
`01:48.12`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, guys, I've see a testing with GRUB2`
`01:48.14`	`koshie`	`Per default`
`01:48.15`	`elmo40`	`can't edit it all that easily`
`01:48.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`koshie, then debian uses grub2, why are you saying no ?`
`01:48.23`	`elmo40`	`I have it now`
`01:48.27`	`elmo40`	`I have Sidux on this comp.`
`01:48.31`	`koshie`	`?`
`01:48.36`	`koshie`	`Thanatermesis, je crois qu'il y a un mal entendu :D`
`01:48.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`<koshie> Thanatermesis, In testing is Grub2`
`01:48.40`	`elmo40`	`but making the listing the order I want is very tedious`
`01:48.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`if debian testing has grub2 is because was adopted/implemented`
`01:49.19`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, pero no encuentro installer code`
`01:49.30`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`koshie, it uses default?`
`01:49.33`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oo`
`01:49.38`	`koshie`	`Yeah I think`
`01:49.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Grub2 is complitly unsecure`
`01:49.57`	`koshie`	`Why ?`
`01:50.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`things enter first in experimental, when things are ready, good made, good packaged.... they enter in sid... in sid is everything unstable, after 4 months of "no problems" they are moved to testing, and in testing is everything running good except minor bugs that you may found from time to time, less important bugs, one day is decided to freeze testing for create the new stable, so testing is freezed, packages are stabilized, and stable`
`01:50.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`borns :)`
`01:50.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`and this is the happy story of a new debian stable version :)`
`01:50.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Because pass was broken in 5 seconds`
`01:50.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, te dije que te olvides del instaler code, instala Elive topaz y ya`
`01:50.50`	`mathesis`	`ok`
`01:51.05`	`mathesis`	`cuando instale elive topaz me pedira el codigo que enviaste`
`01:51.10`	`elmo40`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: how?`
`01:51.38`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`code for password was suck`
`01:51.43`	`DaRtHo`	`lol`
`01:51.50`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`And you just overflow it`
`01:52.11`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`i mean C code`
`01:52.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, instala!`
`01:52.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:52.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`01:52.37`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`I do not know if they have fixe it`
`01:53.34`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`but yesterday it was releas of grub 2 or smt`
`01:55.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`And Elive have much beautyfull grub theme`
`01:55.11`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`01:56.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`thx elmo40`
`01:56.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, :)`
`01:56.13`	`elmo40`	`grub-gfxboot`
`01:56.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, have you tried to boot your computer with Caps Lock ON ?`
`01:56.20`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: no problem`
`01:56.31`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzY4NQ`
`01:56.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, i found it one day :)`
`01:57.00`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`And tell it to you :)`
`01:57.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh :)`
`01:57.29`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`it was surprise for me :)`
`01:57.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`01:57.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`anybody has tried refit ? from macosx ?`
`01:57.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`for*`
`01:57.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`is something like grub`
`01:58.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`i really like it`
`01:58.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`it just scans the partitions and devices at boot and show you a list of things that you can boot`
`01:58.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`THAT is simple`
`01:58.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`THAT is good made, and no buggy`
`01:58.29`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`This new release of GRUB is coming so soon as a rather important bug was discovered in GRUB 2.0. As is documented in the bug report, with GRUB 1.97 the password-based security for this free software boot-loader is rather compromised. With GRUB 1.97, if your password was "phoronix", any individual could log-in just entering "p" or "nix" or any other part of the string -- even just one character. With the just-out GRUB 1.97.1, this issue has been`
`01:58.29`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:58.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you have a CD inserted, you have a new entry for boot the cd`
`01:58.43`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: http://bugs.elivecd.org`
`01:59.47`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`noway to install refit in linux?`
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`02:00.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh, never look about it`
`02:00.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`im just saying that this is a very good made thing`
`02:01.01`	`Elive_user51_en`	`will elive 2 fit on a 4gb mem stick?`
`02:01.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user51_en, you mean installed in a mem stick or use your stick as like a bootable livecd ?`
`02:01.35`	`Elive_user51_en`	`yes`
`02:01.37`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`it need 1.3 Gb in installed mode`
`02:01.51`	`Elive_user51_en`	`ok thanks`
`02:02.04`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`reiser4`
`02:02.12`	`Elive_user51_en`	`been messing around with different systems on usbs`
`02:03.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`reiser4 + gzip mode :)`
`02:03.10`	`Elive_user51_en`	`just found this one today`
`02:03.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user51_en, don't install any linux system on a usb stick`
`02:03.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`you will broke it`
`02:03.44`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb`
`02:03.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`well, linux or any operating system :) even windows or mac (if was possible)`
`02:04.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`but if you use the usb to put Elive in LIVE mode, there's no problem`
`02:04.14`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`to much read-write`
`02:04.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`exactly`
`02:04.23`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`use liveUSB`
`02:04.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`usb flash sticks has a write-limit life`
`02:04.36`	`Elive_user51_en`	`well got ubuntu 9.10 on a 8gb usb works no problem`
`02:04.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`they DIE if you write too much on it... an operating system does a lot of writtings`
`02:04.50`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`it will work`
`02:04.51`	`keyra`	`Elive_user51_en: all the problems started when a cosmonaut got the wonderful idea of distribute cd's worldwide`
`02:04.58`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`but not to long`
`02:05.17`	`Elive_user51_en`	`testing it until i buy a new hd for my laptop`
`02:05.38`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`but if producer give lifetime guaranty it is ok`
`02:06.27`	`Elive_user51_en`	`ok`
`02:06.33`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`you have to read about limit read-write of USBs`
`02:06.52`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`all flash`
`02:07.10`	`Elive_user51_en`	`yeah,well just trying different os`
`02:07.52`	`Elive_user51_en`	`maybe some company will make a terrabyte hd soon for a laptop`
`02:08.03`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
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`02:08.27`	`Elive_user51_en`	`so far 500 gb is the limit`
`02:09.05`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Why you need to big hd? On laptop?`
`02:09.06`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`02:09.21`	`Elive_user51_en`	`cause i want one`
`02:09.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`02:09.41`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`My 160 Gb always halffull`
`02:09.43`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`02:10.07`	`elmo40`	`320Gb 7200RPM drives, not bad!`
`02:10.11`	`elmo40`	`only $75 ;)`
`02:10.21`	`Elive_user51_en`	`my other laptop hd is almost full,200 gb,not enough room`
`02:10.22`	`elmo40`	`most are 5400RPM`
`02:10.36`	`elmo40`	`Elive_user51_en: time to clean it out!`
`02:10.40`	`elmo40`	`get rid of all that pr0n`
`02:10.41`	`Elive_user51_en`	`seagate has a 500gb for little over $100`
`02:10.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`)`
`02:11.06`	`elmo40`	`but the spead of it? prob only 5400RPM`
`02:11.10`	`elmo40`	`it makes a difference`
`02:11.19`	`Elive_user51_en`	`pile of cd/dvd's laying around`
`02:11.21`	`elmo40`	`and onboard cache? 4mb?`
`02:11.46`	`Elive_user51_en`	`think its 8mb,was looking on tiger direct the other day`
`02:12.02`	`elmo40`	`cover your roof http://www.instructables.com/id/CDDVD-Roofing-Concept/`
`02:12.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`02:13.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, http://todo-redes.com/programa-de-recompra-de-licencias-de-microsoft-windows.html [+]`
`02:18.19`	`Elive_user51_en`	`l`
`02:21.33`	`Elive_user51_en`	`lively bunch tonight,lol`
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`02:25.21`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`bb all`
`02:26.39`	`Elive_user51_en`	`grubbin time`
`02:26.57`	`DaRtHo`	`damn!`
`02:27.08`	`Elive_user51_en`	`?`
`02:28.37`	`Elive_user51_en`	`so whats different in elive 2 compared to other linus os?`
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`02:31.53`	`Elive_user51_en`	`well what fun`
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`02:37.51`	`Elive_user51_en`	`hi user 91`
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`03:05.24`	`elmo40`	`moo?`
`03:05.35`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: so... anything else need editing? :)`
`03:07.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`elmo40, not really, thanks :)`
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`03:17.24`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`Ciao`
`03:20.08`	`elmo40`	`bye`
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`03:59.07`	`elmo40`	`wow`
`03:59.11`	`elmo40`	`dead room!`
`03:59.26`	`elmo40`	`Thanatermesis: how are the downloads? I have heard many Gb so far.`
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`04:41.30`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, elive topaz es debian etch?`
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`04:42.50`	`Elive_user31_en`	`hello out there!`
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`04:47.23`	`Elive_user96_es`	`Hi!`
`05:10.24`	`yebyen`	`yay`
`05:10.31`	`yebyen`	`brand new debian system on my laptop`
`05:10.40`	`yebyen`	`lenny live`
`05:11.52`	`elmo40`	`lenny? why lenny?`
`05:12.00`	`elmo40`	`why not Sidux?`
`05:17.23`	`yebyen`	`i have a custom sid install upgraded from elive on the sd card`
`05:17.37`	`keyra`	`yebyen: You can apt-get dist-upgrade and update SOME things of elive, but the only way to get all the new features is with a complete new iso`
`05:17.53`	`yebyen`	`i just wrote the lenny live to /dev/sda`
`05:18.14`	`yebyen`	`and am using it to bootstrap some other debian (which ought to live in 900mb or less)`
`05:18.19`	`yebyen`	`and gnu/hurd`
`05:19.41`	`batden`	`http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2010/03/elive-20-topaz-gem-that-comes-at-price.html`
`05:19.44`	`yebyen`	`i think i might have more fun with sidux`
`05:19.45`	`yebyen`	`dunno`
`05:19.55`	`keyra`	`batden: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`05:20.35`	`batden`	`hehe, thanks keyra, already made a donation...`
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`05:20.50`	`keyra`	`batden: welcome :)`
`05:21.55`	`batden`	`keyra: do androids dream of electric sheep?`
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`05:32.02`	`Elive_user49_en`	`congratulations to all for a great release!`
`05:33.11`	`Elive_user49_en`	`but equally dissapointed by the documentation :(`
`05:34.18`	`yebyen`	`lol`
`05:36.23`	`batden`	`Elive_user49_en: do you mean the user guide included in the document folder?`
`05:36.37`	`keyra`	`batden: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils`
`05:37.00`	`Elive_user49_en`	`no, even the initial information on the website`
`05:37.38`	`Elive_user49_en`	`at the download page, it recommends to install it from a usb`
`05:38.30`	`Elive_user49_en`	`the page on how to make bootable usb recommends linux mode over unetbootin method`
`05:38.45`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb`
`05:39.16`	`Elive_user49_en`	`i am talking about the same page`
`05:39.16`	`Elive_user49_en`	`has anyone tried the instructions from that page?`
`05:40.51`	`Elive_user49_en`	`it says 'it is recommended to do this from an Elive system and specially the same version that you want to put on the USB, also from the same machine'`
`05:41.26`	`Elive_user49_en`	`but this creates a 'hen before the eggs' situation...`
`05:42.08`	`batden`	`also check this out: http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2010/03/elive-20-topaz-gem-that-comes-at-price.html`
`05:42.22`	`keyra`	`batden: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`05:42.24`	`Elive_user49_en`	`i need to create a usb stick to install from it, but to make the usb stick, i already need a installed system!!!`
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`05:42.38`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb`
`05:43.08`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra, are you a bot?`
`05:43.22`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: me?`
`05:43.42`	`Elive_user49_en`	`yes`
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`05:43.58`	`batden`	`hehe`
`05:44.07`	`Elive_user80_en`	`hello`
`05:45.35`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra, i am having the problem with the very page that you are recommending :(`
`05:47.59`	`Elive_user49_en`	`further the page gives instructions to issue "grub-install --recheck...." command - however, that command (or the package) does not exist, not even in the repo!`
`05:48.10`	`Elive_user80_en`	`alittle question`
`05:49.01`	`Elive_user49_en`	`may be Thanatermesis may like to throw some light on it?`
`05:49.34`	`Elive_user80_en`	`does anyone know how much ram elive can boot on in any condition`
`05:50.45`	`Elive_user80_en`	`i mean how little ^^`
`06:01.43`	`batden`	`Elive use grub-gfxboot, you should install grub-gfxboot-doc`
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`06:24.52`	`Elive_user49_en`	`batden, was that for me?`
`06:34.18`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: grub-install is part of grub pkg`
`06:36.07`	`Elive_user49_en`	`when i give "grub-install....." at the terminal, it gives "bash: grub-install: command not found"`
`06:36.10`	`eporim`	`$ dpkg-query -S grub-install`
`06:36.10`	`eporim`	`grub-pc: /usr/sbin/grub-install`
`06:36.21`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)`
`06:37.12`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: dpkg-query -l grub\*`
`06:37.22`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: which ones are installed?`
`06:38.59`	`Elive_user49_en`	`eporim, grub-gfxboot seems to be installed`
`06:39.13`	`eporim`	`so, you have it`
`06:39.32`	`Elive_user49_en`	`then what do i do about the error i mentioned above`
`06:39.43`	`eporim`	`maybe you must use from superuser`
`06:39.44`	`Elive_user49_en`	`how do i make the usb bootable?`
`06:39.47`	`eporim`	`try adding sudo`
`06:39.58`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb`
`06:40.24`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra, please stop giving me that stupid link`
`06:40.39`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: Im NOT stupid, im binary, im not random, im pure, so.... you stupid human full of errors :P`
`06:40.40`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: she's is a stupid bitch-bot`
`06:40.54`	`keyra`	`eporim: No... stupid human!`
`06:41.01`	`Elive_user80_en`	`WTF`
`06:41.06`	`Elive_user49_en`	`:D`
`06:41.23`	`Elive_user49_en`	`eporim, i remember trying sudo yesterday, will try that again`
`06:41.30`	`Elive_user49_en`	`just a minute`
`06:41.37`	`Elive_user80_en`	`did you try sudo su?`
`06:41.54`	`eporim`	`if sudo doesn't work, try to open a real root terminal`
`06:42.03`	`Elive_user49_en`	`no... i gave sudo and the command`
`06:43.24`	`Elive_user49_en`	`there i go!... shouldn't that be mentioned on the website... such a minor thing causing great agony :P`
`06:43.48`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: how you solved?`
`06:44.20`	`Elive_user49_en`	`'sudo su' !!!`
`06:44.21`	`Elive_user80_en`	`thats why i always use root terminal`
`06:44.34`	`Elive_user80_en`	`sudo su alwayswork`
`06:44.35`	`keyra`	`Elive_user80_en: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)`
`06:44.51`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra is a stupid bot :P`
`06:45.03`	`Elive_user80_en`	`whats a bot?`
`06:45.05`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: you think so?`
`06:45.25`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra, yes you ARE`
`06:45.37`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra, also idiot`
`06:45.39`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: :)`
`06:46.04`	`Elive_user80_en`	`keyra: why do you post useless stuff`
`06:47.16`	`eporim`	`Elive_user80_en: it's an automatic responding client, such thing is called bot`
`06:47.24`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: you need just "su"`
`06:47.31`	`eporim`	`or sudo -l`
`06:47.36`	`eporim`	`sudo su is a repetition`
`06:47.52`	`Elive_user49_en`	`ok`
`06:47.54`	`Elive_user80_en`	`su gives permission denied without sudo`
`06:48.09`	`eporim`	`anyway "sudo <cmd>" should work, i think it's an error in some $PATH in some config file for the shell`
`06:48.20`	`eporim`	`Elive_user80_en: badly configured su, then`
`06:49.00`	`Elive_user49_en`	`eporim, i am in livecd mode... so it must be a bug... i did not change any config file`
`06:49.25`	`eporim`	`Elive_user80_en: try sudo -s`
`06:49.43`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en, Elive_user80_en: write these complaints to Thanatermesis`
`06:50.06`	`eporim`	`he should care to write them in bugs.elivecd.org`
`06:50.13`	`Elive_user49_en`	`i most definitely will`
`06:50.13`	`eporim`	`or you could register and write yourselves`
`06:50.31`	`eporim`	`maybe they will give you the invitation code, that way ;P`
`06:50.38`	`Elive_user49_en`	`i plan to register myself after install`
`06:50.44`	`Elive_user80_en`	`sudo -s shows a blinking cursor for about 45 seconds and then drops to root terminal`
`06:50.52`	`Elive_user49_en`	`the distro is beautifull`
`06:51.09`	`Elive_user49_en`	`but the initial hiccups like these could drive the users away!`
`06:51.14`	`Elive_user80_en`	`i still disagree the pay to install way`
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`06:52.45`	`Elive_user49_en`	`by the way, will the bootable usb in persistent mode`
`06:53.00`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb`
`06:53.15`	`Elive_user80_en`	`keyra you have already posted that`
`06:53.45`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra, thank you very much... you are so intelligent!`
`06:54.16`	`Elive_user80_en`	`Elive_user49_en: is that sarcasm?`
`06:54.42`	`Elive_user49_en`	`Elive_user80_en, to the core :-D`
`06:55.00`	`Elive_user80_en`	`???`
`06:56.32`	`eporim`	`Elive_user80_en: sudo -s should open a root terminal session (just like su)`
`06:56.32`	`Elive_user80_en`	`oh, i think i got it`
`06:56.46`	`keyra`	`eporim: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :)`
`06:56.47`	`eporim`	`Elive_user49_en: I donno`
`06:57.04`	`Elive_user80_en`	`eporim: it does`
`06:57.18`	`Elive_user49_en`	`:D see ya keyra after i reboot from usb`
`06:57.39`	`Elive_user80_en`	`is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots`
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`07:03.17`	`Elive_user80_en`	`just having some fun ;)`
`07:03.17`	`Elive_user90_en`	`keyra, i am back... on the USB!!!`
`07:03.28`	`Elive_user80_en`	`hey how'd it go?`
`07:03.45`	`Elive_user80_en`	`is back (gone 00:06:05)`
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`07:22.29`	`Wizard`	`czeÅÄ`
`07:26.46`	`Elive_user90_en`	`anyone using persistent mode on live usb? need help setting up one`
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`07:51.06`	`yebyen`	`oh boy`
`07:51.14`	`yebyen`	`plain old sid boots :D`
`07:51.30`	`yebyen`	`i even have vim now`
`07:51.33`	`yebyen`	`and ssh`
`07:52.05`	`yebyen`	`certainly no dbusses here`
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`07:55.02`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hey PrinceAMD !`
`07:55.04`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`o/`
`07:55.15`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`long time no see`
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`07:57.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`hey AlexAnteMachina true, how are you`
`07:57.30`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`fine`
`07:57.35`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`just about to make some coffee`
`07:57.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yawns`
`07:58.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`cool, i had some pizza eariler, still feeling stuffed`
`07:58.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`is a powerless, sloppy Being`
`07:58.25`	`yebyen`	`i thought the compiler was supposed to bring you coffee`
`07:58.38`	`yebyen`	`hasn't got his compilers fired up in hurd yet`
`07:59.07`	`yebyen`	`but lenny live and sid disk both got madwifi compiled for fresh installs today`
`07:59.38`	`yebyen`	`still reconciling madwifi with sid's repo kernels, booting with the lenny kernel`
`07:59.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`madwifi... what that good for?`
`07:59.46`	`yebyen`	`eee 701`
`07:59.58`	`yebyen`	`ath_pci beats ath5k in workingness, hands down`
`08:00.06`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm.. so in that case elive comes with it.`
`08:00.10`	`yebyen`	`right`
`08:00.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I've had a 701 and it worked well.`
`08:00.19`	`yebyen`	`elive does all of this stuff great`
`08:00.30`	`yebyen`	`i bootstrapped this environment from elive originally`
`08:00.45`	`yebyen`	`it's sdb1, the first partition on my sd card`
`08:01.02`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`has no idea about yebyen's SD card`
`08:01.12`	`yebyen`	`then reiserfs /boot, then reiser4 /`
`08:01.14`	`yebyen`	`from elive`
`08:01.20`	`yebyen`	`which was upgraded to sid, and lost most of the packages`
`08:01.24`	`yebyen`	`(foolish)`
`08:01.35`	`yebyen`	`at least i've seen now it can be done`
`08:01.37`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, rescue me!`
`08:01.43`	`yebyen`	`farts`
`08:01.43`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`help!`
`08:01.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`08:01.56`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`this guy is chatting me to death`
`08:02.03`	`yebyen`	`i have too many linuxes`
`08:02.05`	`yebyen`	`not enough hurds`
`08:02.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hes writing fast than i can read`
`08:02.17`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, why not ext2 on /boot`
`08:02.32`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`nono... yebyen you must use reiser`
`08:02.32`	`yebyen`	`PrinceAMD: simply because it can, elive chose reiserfs`
`08:02.51`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`damn he already does`
`08:03.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, i know he seems to be a good typer`
`08:03.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`need coffee`
`08:03.35`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`is a coffeeZombie`
`08:03.48`	`yebyen`	`needs sleep`
`08:03.52`	`yebyen`	`but would much rather fuck with linux`
`08:04.02`	`PrinceAMD`	`reiser4 seems to be pretty fast , i have not personally tested it`
`08:04.04`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yebyen, bet a girl`
`08:04.07`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`doh...`
`08:04.09`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`GET`
`08:04.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`lol`
`08:05.00`	`yebyen`	`i have the most inane shit to do tomorrow`
`08:05.06`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, what distros u got?`
`08:05.11`	`yebyen`	`all debians`
`08:05.19`	`yebyen`	`different releases and kernels`
`08:05.39`	`yebyen`	`2.6.26-2, 2.6.32-2, lenny, sid`
`08:05.50`	`yebyen`	`and gnumach, hurd`
`08:05.57`	`yebyen`	`plus teh elive`
`08:06.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
`08:06.12`	`yebyen`	`all on this eee 701 2G surf`
`08:06.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`full out deb!`
`08:06.26`	`yebyen`	`grub2 counts as an operatin system too`
`08:06.29`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`o_O`
`08:06.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`ALL on a 2G hdd?`
`08:06.49`	`yebyen`	`elive lives on the 4G sd card`
`08:07.01`	`yebyen`	`twice`
`08:07.26`	`yebyen`	`once, blown up into a sid install, and once Topaz 2.0 (live)`
`08:07.32`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`701 surf? thats the one without cam.`
`08:08.35`	`yebyen`	`yep`
`08:08.39`	`yebyen`	`it's the one without anything`
`08:08.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yebyen, r u talking even faster than you type?`
`08:08.42`	`yebyen`	`512MB ram`
`08:08.52`	`yebyen`	`i am actually speaking in spanish`
`08:09.00`	`yebyen`	`you just can't see`
`08:09.05`	`yebyen`	`wait`
`08:09.06`	`yebyen`	`i mean arabic`
`08:09.17`	`PrinceAMD`	`wtf, how did he mix that up`
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`08:09.21`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`you should hook up with this prillo-guy`
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`08:09.33`	`yebyen`	`prillo?`
`08:09.38`	`yebyen`	`is that a commercial on tv?`
`08:09.47`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`no, just a weird guy.`
`08:10.02`	`yebyen`	`so,`
`08:10.24`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`http://chris.pirillo.com/`
`08:10.47`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hes doing his own video thing. like a show.`
`08:11.02`	`yebyen`	`hmmm`
`08:11.06`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hes talking sooooooo much`
`08:11.28`	`yebyen`	`apt-get --purge auto-remove`
`08:11.29`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`maybe u r soulmates!?`
`08:11.51`	`yebyen`	`is he a woman?`
`08:12.15`	`yebyen`	`wait`
`08:12.17`	`yebyen`	`.. he`
`08:13.59`	`yebyen`	`makes the compilers go again`
`08:14.18`	`yebyen`	`i really want to put xen on here`
`08:14.28`	`yebyen`	`it's ridiculous that i can only run one kernel at a time :x`
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`08:26.30`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yebyen, just was on that pirillo guy's website.`
`08:26.33`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Pointless.`
`08:26.44`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Topic "Linux Distros"`
`08:26.48`	`yebyen`	`does anyone know what it's doing when it sets a package as manually installed?`
`08:26.55`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`And it's all been about several win-versions`
`08:26.59`	`yebyen`	`that prevents autoremove from catching it`
`08:28.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`no, but PrinceAMD might know`
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`08:33.33`	`yebyen`	`hmm`
`08:33.36`	`PrinceAMD`	`hm..`
`08:33.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, what pkg`
`08:33.54`	`yebyen`	`apt-get install foopkg`
`08:34.02`	`yebyen`	`apt-get autoremove`
`08:34.09`	`yebyen`	`foopkg is not listed...`
`08:34.12`	`yebyen`	`dpkg --purge foopkg`
`08:34.22`	`yebyen`	`any dependencies installed by foopkg`
`08:34.26`	`yebyen`	`apt-get autoremove`
`08:34.29`	`yebyen`	`captured here`
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`08:34.54`	`yebyen`	`i'm trying to guess what apt-get is doing differently for the packages you requested vs the packages they depend on`
`08:34.57`	`PrinceAMD`	`well i seriously dont know`
`08:35.32`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, u'll need to check apt-get src`
`08:35.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`<yebyen> i really want to put xen on here`
`08:35.59`	`PrinceAMD`	`<yebyen> it's ridiculous that i can only run one kernel at a time :x`
`08:36.05`	`PrinceAMD`	`xen on your laptop?`
`08:36.07`	`yebyen`	`yea`
`08:36.25`	`yebyen`	`i left my reiser4 kernel debs on the reiser4 partition :x`
`08:36.28`	`yebyen`	`how embarassing`
`08:36.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`it supports hvm`
`08:36.59`	`yebyen`	`what, the eee 701?`
`08:37.00`	`yebyen`	`no :x`
`08:37.07`	`yebyen`	`i want to get an msi wind with z530`
`08:37.21`	`yebyen`	`is everything markedly slower without hvm?`
`08:37.27`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
`08:37.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`my router has a Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz. no hvm`
`08:38.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`well xen does not seem to want to work without hvm`
`08:38.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, YOUR ROUTER has 1.8 ghz?`
`08:38.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`so i use virtualbox instead`
`08:38.39`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`what the heck are you planning?`
`08:38.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, yes with 160+320GB`
`08:39.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`how much traffic are you expecting?`
`08:39.11`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, well i download all day/night, i cant leave the big system up it uses too much power`
`08:39.23`	`yebyen`	`PrinceAMD: xen has got to work without hvm, they have this whole pvops infrastructure :D`
`08:39.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`the intel uses 48watts at idle, my desktop uses 150-200w idle`
`08:40.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol.... PrinceAMD you hsould think of something like a NSLU2 or a SheevaPlug`
`08:40.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, dont know much about it, i tried it when i had CentOS on my router, i now have Fedora 12 on router`
`08:40.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, what's that?`
`08:40.42`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`LOOL`
`08:40.48`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`you really dont know?`
`08:41.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`seriously`
`08:41.05`	`yebyen`	`ok, i'm going to go try and boot hurd`
`08:41.24`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, vbox?`
`08:41.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexantemachina/3794387735/`
`08:41.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`yebyen, have u tried mac-os on eeepc?`
`08:41.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, what that pic. its my server.`
`08:41.57`	`Wizard`	`it's illegal!`
`08:42.09`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`calm down, Wizard`
`08:42.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`hey Wizard`
`08:42.26`	`Wizard`	`calm as down`
`08:42.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, nice server what cpu u got in that ?`
`08:43.14`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol... its a 266 mhz`
`08:43.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`arm`
`08:43.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, there is a really really cool photo manager in E u'll prob see it in elive 2.1 or so, it support flick real nice stuff even google map`
`08:43.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, you can ask wikipedia for NSLU2 to see its specs`
`08:43.54`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, wow that's fast what osBSD?`
`08:44.20`	`PrinceAMD`	`ah nice`
`08:44.26`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`huh? fast?`
`08:44.33`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`266 MHZ?`
`08:44.40`	`Wizard`	`BSD? on 266MHz?`
`08:44.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`that aint fast.`
`08:44.46`	`Wizard`	`btw, which one?`
`08:44.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`no, I'm running debian on it`
`08:44.59`	`Wizard`	`only OpenBSD and NetBSD support arm, afaik`
`08:45.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`ah OpenBSD then`
`08:45.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`no, there is debian for this device, too`
`08:45.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`i got freebsd here that thing dont use memory`
`08:45.44`	`Wizard`	`i'm not sure if freebsd supports arm`
`08:45.54`	`PrinceAMD`	`i say BSD here is 6gb of ram BSD says no no i want 32MB`
`08:46.09`	`Wizard`	`rotfl`
`08:47.02`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2`
`08:47.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug`
`08:47.31`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Both might be interesting to you`
`08:48.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`Power2.3w idle no attached devices, 7.0w running at 100% CPU utilization`
`08:48.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`WTF`
`08:48.15`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Server uses just 18 Watt!`
`08:48.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`WTF`
`08:48.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, i was thinking about buying a ITX with atom dual when i get money`
`08:48.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`but i got this intel 1.80 for FREE so :)`
`08:49.04`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`well, sure.`
`08:49.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`its just about to share my experience`
`08:49.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`i think if i have a cheaper powersupply it will use less power, the psu in the system is 600watts`
`08:50.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, that's nice setup, wow this NSLU2 is pretty nice`
`08:50.18`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I would like to setup a raid5`
`08:50.27`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, have you ever run one?`
`08:50.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`nope`
`08:50.43`	`PrinceAMD`	`The SheevaPlug comes supplied with Ubuntu 9.04 ARM build. <YUCK`
`08:51.06`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, so what?`
`08:51.13`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`replace it by anything else.`
`08:51.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`i was talking to a UG Computer Science lecturer tonight he said he switched from SUSE to ubuntu, spoiled my night`
`08:51.49`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`huh?`
`08:51.57`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`why did that spoil your nite?`
`08:52.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`And who cares what that guy uses?`
`08:52.37`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I even know people using Microsoft!`
`08:52.47`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`No shit!`
`08:52.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`well one, he said 2 years ago he didnt like ubuntu n all crap n what not, now he says it's the best`
`08:53.08`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`so what?`
`08:53.37`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I even know a guy running Suse for his business.`
`08:54.15`	`PrinceAMD`	`so what? man at LUG[Linux user group] over here, it's like [ULUG]-Ubuntu Linux User Group`
`08:54.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`And when (trying) to tell him there is even better stuff he's just going :" dont wanna know.... im used to that!"`
`08:54.37`	`PrinceAMD`	`if u say u use anything that does not have the suffix of ubuntu, they dont wanna here`
`08:54.46`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol`
`08:55.26`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`they'd hook up with the Linux-regulars' table here.`
`08:55.45`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Lots of brickheads.`
`08:55.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`well 5 years ago i didnt like fedora , now i have it as router, it`
`08:56.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`it's pretty darn good`
`08:56.37`	`PrinceAMD`	`only one bug it has, something with .gvfs`
`08:56.37`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`you know, I cant stand people thinking they had found the philosopher's stone.`
`08:56.55`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, who said that?`
`08:57.07`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`?`
`08:57.12`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`who said what?`
`08:57.14`	`Elive_user80_en`	`does anyone know the minimum ram elive linux works on`
`08:57.25`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`128, i guess`
`08:57.40`	`PrinceAMD`	`Elive_user80_en, 64mb if u have 128mb swap`
`08:57.42`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`but it also might run on 64`
`08:57.56`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol... PrinceAMD just took it right out of my mouth.`
`08:57.59`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`:)`
`08:58.02`	`PrinceAMD`	`" they had found the philosopher's stone."`
`08:58.31`	`Elive_user80_en`	`LOL i will try in a virualbox to see`
`08:58.31`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm?`
`08:59.28`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, ??`
`09:00.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`<AlexAnteMachina> you know, I cant stand people thinking they had found the philosopher's stone. <what do u mean?`
`09:00.32`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I mean those guys I was talking about.`
`09:00.40`	`PrinceAMD`	`ah`
`09:00.59`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, what services u got on ur server?`
`09:01.08`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`"I'm using this... or that... dont tell me you your crap I know better"`
`09:01.55`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`my server offers ssh, ftp, smb and apache`
`09:02.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexantemachina/3972010462/ <REALLY FREAKING NICE, can i get the HQ image?`
`09:03.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm??`
`09:03.25`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`just download it.`
`09:03.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina,i got, ssh,http,smb,mpd,nfs4,squid`
`09:03.51`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok i have to sign up`
`09:03.56`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`huh?`
`09:04.03`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexantemachina/3972010462/sizes/l/`
`09:04.07`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`there you go`
`09:04.19`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`1024x768`
`09:04.27`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`sufficient?`
`09:04.29`	`PrinceAMD`	`anything higher?`
`09:04.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`2000+`
`09:04.42`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`dunno`
`09:04.46`	`PrinceAMD`	`3000+ would be great`
`09:05.34`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`maybe i have it somewhere...`
`09:05.43`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`but not at flicker`
`09:05.50`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`so give me some time`
`09:05.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`cool`
`09:06.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, ever used mpd?`
`09:06.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`guess I have it on some backup hdd.`
`09:07.17`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`but im not sure.`
`09:07.44`	`PrinceAMD`	`well if u find it when ever just send to my mail if u remember`
`09:08.01`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`does not remember`
`09:08.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`u have some really nice pictures of scene here`
`09:08.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`i've good most my pics on facebook`
`09:08.27`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, do u have facebook?`
`09:08.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I have a Face and several Books. But not combined as one.`
`09:09.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`LOL`
`09:10.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`well since u've good some pretty icy picture up on flickr i'll upload some of my "all year summer" pics so u can see how it looks down here`
`09:10.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`nice`
`09:10.36`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i even got some small icy-videos`
`09:11.13`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lemme get it... have to see wether one can see the twinkling`
`09:12.52`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol... found the pix you've asked for!`
`09:13.01`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`on my Cellphoe!`
`09:13.09`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`even taken with that.`
`09:13.14`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`:)j`
`09:13.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`what is the resolution?`
`09:15.14`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`2048x1536`
`09:15.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`SWEET!`
`09:16.56`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`so,.. any mail-adress?`
`09:17.34`	`PrinceAMD`	`princeamd.elive@gmail.com`
`09:17.41`	`PrinceAMD`	`or princeamd@elivecd.org`
`09:18.24`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, i am uploading some pictures to flickr atm it's 19mb might take about 30min`
`09:20.21`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`is sending...`
`09:20.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/06/pogoplug-review/`
`09:20.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Sent!`
`09:21.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`kool`
`09:21.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`well, this pogoplug is pretty much what NSLU2 is by default, too.`
`09:22.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`it has webinterface?`
`09:22.41`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yes.`
`09:22.46`	`PrinceAMD`	`sweet`
`09:23.21`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`you know, its (the name mentions) Network-Storage Device.`
`09:23.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`yeah`
`09:23.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`i'm looking for one with a sound card`
`09:23.47`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`and they sell it with some webinterface preinstalled.`
`09:23.50`	`PrinceAMD`	`so i can have mpd`
`09:23.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`so anybody can easily use it.`
`09:24.01`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`mpd?`
`09:24.10`	`PrinceAMD`	`music player daemon`
`09:24.28`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`??`
`09:24.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`it's like a server that host all ur music files, n u can access it from anywhere`
`09:24.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`but it plays through the server`
`09:25.07`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I'm just using smb for that`
`09:25.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`but then u'll be playing the sound on the client pc`
`09:25.39`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`sure`
`09:25.47`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`you dont?`
`09:25.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`mpd plays it on the host server, which is what i wanted`
`09:25.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`nope i dont`
`09:26.10`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`okay. so NSLU2 is not for you.`
`09:26.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`266mhz are too slow for that.`
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`09:27.04`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I've attached a usb-speaker to it and played som music using a console-player.`
`09:27.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`:/ well it's just one service i have to quit so not a big deal, but i am still checking to see if anything is out there`
`09:27.37`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, wtf i have idea, the sheevaplug has usb maybe i get usb sound card`
`09:27.51`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yes sure.`
`09:28.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`there are even speakers with built in soundcard.`
`09:28.05`	`PrinceAMD`	`yeah i can see it happening now :)`
`09:28.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`that's what i was using on the NSLU2 too`
`09:28.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`cool`
`09:29.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`but 266 mhz are simply too slow for decoding mp3/ogg AND being a fileserver.`
`09:29.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`i'm sure it can handle it!`
`09:29.45`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`the music wasnt playing well very long`
`09:30.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, do u remember the days when u only had 133mhz and everything worked`
`09:30.07`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`no`
`09:30.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`ah:/`
`09:30.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`WTf`
`09:30.14`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i never had such device`
`09:30.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`u never had those days`
`09:30.21`	`PrinceAMD`	`man`
`09:30.32`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, can u remember the specs of the first pc u use`
`09:30.36`	`PrinceAMD`	`used*`
`09:30.49`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i was interested in computing since i was about 10 years old.`
`09:31.01`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`but i got my first computer when i was about 20.`
`09:31.03`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Zotac-Zbox-HDID11/`
`09:31.14`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`fist pc had 550 mhz.`
`09:31.34`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`that was back in 98 or 99.`
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`09:31.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`wow`
`09:31.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`i had 133 mhz in 2000-2001`
`09:32.07`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`and it came with a 128 gfx card.`
`09:32.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`awhile after than i got a 900mhz athlon`
`09:32.17`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`ati rage 128. that's it.`
`09:32.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`i didnt even know about gfx card until 2004`
`09:32.51`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`o_O`
`09:32.58`	`PrinceAMD`	`first gfx card was ati radeon 9200se`
`09:33.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hey that zotac box is cool!`
`09:33.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`i know it is`
`09:33.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`would run linux SWEET`
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`09:33.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`even xbmc would run flawlessly!`
`09:33.55`	`PrinceAMD`	`According to an item on the Hot Hardware website, here, the Abox HD-ID11 will sell in the U.S. for approximately $210.`
`09:34.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`that price is not bad too`
`09:34.22`	`keyra`	`PrinceAMD: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free`
`09:34.23`	`PrinceAMD`	`that's the price of my cpu when i got it`
`09:35.09`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`they r selling it for 250 Euro at my place`
`09:35.39`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`holy shit! PrinceAMD what cpu r u running?`
`09:36.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, lol, AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor`
`09:36.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`o_O`
`09:36.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`that is FAR beyond everything i ever used.`
`09:36.43`	`PrinceAMD`	`quad core at 3000mhz each, unlocked multiplyers can clock up to 3600mhz on normal heatsink`
`09:37.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`hehe u dont wanna know what my gpu is then`
`09:37.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`atm I'm using a P4 2.4 Ghz.`
`09:37.45`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`so to me you are FAR OUT!`
`09:37.46`	`PrinceAMD`	`wtf i gave one of that away last year, beyond slow dude`
`09:38.11`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol... guess y I'm loving elive??`
`09:38.21`	`PrinceAMD`	`hehe`
`09:38.32`	`PrinceAMD`	`i use E17 too on the thing`
`09:38.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`without all the compiz effect u guys love`
`09:39.24`	`keyra`	`PrinceAMD: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one`
`09:39.24`	`PrinceAMD`	`thanks babez`
`09:41.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`doesnt use ecomorph, too`
`09:41.19`	`keyra`	`AlexAnteMachina: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one`
`09:41.57`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I'm just using ecomorph to impress people.`
`09:41.57`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, 68% of the images uploaded to flickr already`
`09:42.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, what is ur download speed?`
`09:42.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm?`
`09:42.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`hehe`
`09:42.24`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I'm not dl-ing anything atm.`
`09:43.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`i know, but what is the speed?`
`09:43.03`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Well, you know, it's fun to show people what eyecandy a netbook can handle when NOT running win!`
`09:43.25`	`PrinceAMD`	`yeah`
`09:43.29`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`I'm using a DSL 16.000`
`09:43.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`on my router i also have windows server 2008 running in vbox for my windows client hehe`
`09:44.07`	`keyra`	`PrinceAMD: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems`
`09:44.29`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, I've just read a review about that zotac box`
`09:44.31`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, Mbps? Kbps?`
`09:44.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, link`
`09:44.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`its in german.`
`09:44.57`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`wont help u`
`09:44.59`	`PrinceAMD`	`:/`
`09:45.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`if germans recommend it, it's good`
`09:45.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`its not recommended.`
`09:45.46`	`PrinceAMD`	`fuck`
`09:45.47`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`getting too warm.`
`09:46.09`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`during normal use 55Â°`
`09:46.16`	`PrinceAMD`	`WTF`
`09:46.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`and its Fan is too loud.`
`09:46.35`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`and the wifi isnt working well.`
`09:46.50`	`keyra`	`AlexAnteMachina: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)`
`09:46.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Looks like the antenna is crap.`
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`09:47.06`	`PrinceAMD`	`if it is louder than the 12 fans in my desktop then i may have a problem`
`09:47.30`	`Elive_user78_ru`	`hi all )`
`09:47.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`no need for wifi, data rate too slow, 1gbps link is good enough`
`09:47.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`hey Elive_user78_ru`
`09:48.01`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`okay. so you might replace the Fan.`
`09:48.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`get a Enermax WARP`
`09:48.36`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, if it is small enought i will put it in my desktop case`
`09:48.37`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`its got enlobal bearing!`
`09:49.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`oh`
`09:49.56`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`okay. PrinceAMD especially for you I'll use a "speedmeter" website to test my up-dl-speed`
`09:50.33`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/01/marvell_plug_computer_3.html`
`09:50.52`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, no need too`
`09:53.40`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Download: 13.66 Kbit/sec; Upload: 512 kbit/sec`
`09:53.54`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`ping: 39 ms`
`09:54.42`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok`
`09:55.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, http://www.flickr.com/photos/48196044@N06/`
`09:57.05`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, i'm not sure if i sent u the correct link let me know if it loads`
`09:57.12`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yep`
`09:57.36`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`what photo-app was that you've been talking about before?`
`09:57.45`	`PrinceAMD`	`enki`
`09:58.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, wanna see a screenshot of it`
`09:58.16`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`knows enki`
`09:58.22`	`PrinceAMD`	`kool`
`09:58.29`	`PrinceAMD`	`it's in elive already`
`09:58.31`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`watchwolf is developing it`
`09:58.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`yeah`
`09:59.09`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`huh?`
`09:59.18`	`PrinceAMD`	`he's been doing a great job`
`09:59.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i got elive 2.0 and no enki in it by default`
`09:59.30`	`PrinceAMD`	`ah :/`
`10:00.10`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`well, you should turn some pix.`
`10:00.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`atm I'm using cooliris for browsing pix`
`10:02.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`ok, i will turn them later`
`10:03.00`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`looks very sunny and warm`
`10:04.01`	`PrinceAMD`	`WARM?? that does not discribe it, it's HOT!!!`
`10:04.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`enki can handle flickr?`
`10:04.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`well i will try now`
`10:04.31`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol... so you get boiled alive.`
`10:05.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`yes`
`10:06.30`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`did my frozen berries already arrive?`
`10:07.11`	`PrinceAMD`	`let me check`
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`10:08.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, yes i have it`
`10:09.23`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`good`
`10:10.52`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hope the resolution is sufficient`
`10:12.03`	`PrinceAMD`	`well the file size looks good :)`
`10:12.43`	`PrinceAMD`	`enki does not seem to fully support flickr as yet`
`10:17.07`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, great pictures if u take more u know the email`
`10:18.17`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`these pix are quite old`
`10:19.29`	`PrinceAMD`	`but they look so "fresh"`
`10:19.49`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`lol...`
`10:20.19`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`if its too hot at your place just use them as a background`
`10:20.33`	`keyra`	`AlexAnteMachina: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background`
`10:20.47`	`PrinceAMD`	`hehe`
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`10:23.27`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm... you could make it a wallpaper for your room`
`10:23.30`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`gg`
`10:23.41`	`keyra`	`AlexAnteMachina: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background`
`10:24.19`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, you've once did that white theme. Guess it was just a login theme.`
`10:24.37`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`that could match`
`10:24.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, yeah that one was NICE`
`10:24.43`	`PrinceAMD`	`yeah`
`10:24.53`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, well entrance is DEAD DEAD`
`10:25.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`it's been remove from e`
`10:25.13`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`WHY?`
`10:25.13`	`PrinceAMD`	`i use startx these days`
`10:25.38`	`PrinceAMD`	`no one wants to maintain it`
`10:25.53`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`how about u maintaining?`
`10:26.00`	`PrinceAMD`	`hahaha`
`10:26.09`	`PrinceAMD`	`i just said no one wants too`
`10:26.15`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm,.... I'm thinking about alternatives to my landline phone`
`10:26.19`	`PrinceAMD`	`entrance needs a rewrite`
`10:26.31`	`PrinceAMD`	`cell phone?`
`10:26.42`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`already got one.`
`10:26.54`	`PrinceAMD`	`good`
`10:27.12`	`PrinceAMD`	`i'm sure in a few mnths someone will rite anothe login manager in elm`
`10:27.34`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`got no idea about those things`
`10:27.49`	`PrinceAMD`	`:/`
`10:30.35`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, what do u do on elive most times`
`10:36.52`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`humm?`
`10:37.02`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i dont understand that question`
`10:41.52`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD,?`
`10:44.14`	`PrinceAMD`	`AlexAnteMachina, what do u use elive mainly for`
`10:46.25`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`PrinceAMD, Im using it for nearly everything.`
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`11:32.43`	`Watchwolf`	`AlexAnteMachina, the support fo flickr in enki is not yet finished`
`11:35.27`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i see`
`11:36.03`	`Watchwolf`	`I am working on it`
`11:36.08`	`Watchwolf`	`maybe in 2 weeks`
`11:39.43`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`no problem`
`11:40.02`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i was living my entire live without it.`
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`11:44.12`	`Elive_user73_en`	`hey guys`
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`11:44.23`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`Hi all!`
`11:44.31`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi MerMouY_Zinud`
`11:44.39`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi Elive_user73_en`
`11:44.52`	`Elive_user73_en`	`hey how come i cant use the at symbol?`
`11:45.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`wrong keymap?`
`11:45.38`	`Elive_user73_en`	`is there an onscreen keyboard or something here?`
`11:45.44`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`apt, give Elive_user73_en a @`
`11:45.45`	`apt`	`ACTION gives a @ to Elive_user73_en`
`11:46.05`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`better now, Elive_user73_en ?`
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`11:47.38`	`Elive_user73_en`	`hey how can i get my installer module if i can't give it my email address?`
`11:47.50`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`just download it`
`11:48.06`	`Elive_user73_en`	`where do i download it from`
`11:48.14`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`email is just to make sure you'll get the module`
`11:48.17`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`AlexAnteMachina you know what? We jyust re-install a fresh website and your account has to be created again....`
`11:48.18`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`;)`
`11:48.21`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`there you dl it`
`11:48.30`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`you like of course happy?`
`11:48.38`	`Elive_user73_en`	`what's the website?`
`11:49.09`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`I'm still working on and I'll send you invite directly when it will be available... :)`
`11:49.28`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`will be at http://teams.elivecd.org`
`11:49.44`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`MerMouY_Zinud, u r killing me.`
`11:49.52`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`website for Elive collaborators`
`11:49.58`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`:-*`
`11:50.19`	`Elive_user73_en`	`cant i download it from somewhere else?`
`11:50.31`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`i will not logon as long as I dont know this will stay!`
`11:50.47`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`we had a problem with the rewrite engine of the elivecd server so we just need to install it again with differents otions.... Sorry`
`11:51.04`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`:) sure I understand...`
`11:51.15`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`I will give you a sign*`
`11:52.18`	`Elive_user73_en`	`what does a .md5 extension mean?`
`11:52.45`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`its no extension but a checksum`
`11:53.18`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`used to make sure the transfer did not fail or cause errors.`
`11:53.22`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`mostly not needed.`
`11:53.34`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`!! Alex!!!????`
`11:53.42`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`not need?`
`11:54.12`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`I disagree as I had to download 2 times the 1.9.61!`
`11:54.48`	`Elive_user73_en`	`what does an installer module do?`
`11:57.19`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`MerMouY_Zinud, i never had any problem`
`11:57.41`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`maybe it's due to my sometimes really poor connection...`
`11:58.01`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`well, Elive_user73_en since it's called "installer-module" I recommend to make an educated Guess.`
`11:58.11`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`;)`
`11:58.12`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`installer module is the "key to install topaz"`
`11:58.56`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`we should find a nice sentence like that ;)`
`11:59.18`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`jewelry key? :)`
`11:59.49`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`is still surprise by snow at this year time...!!!`
`12:02.21`	`Elive_user73_en`	`so i can only download it from the official website?`
`12:02.55`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`right`
`12:02.59`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`yes. From official website only.`
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`12:29.27`	`Elive_user73_en`	`hey i have a question do all users have the same installer module?`
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`12:40.15`	`nurdys`	`hi`
`12:52.18`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`Hi`
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`12:56.07`	`wirechief`	`I just install my belkin N wireless adapter and connected to the internet (using ndiswrapper) very happy with that.`
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`13:04.04`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Hello all`
`13:05.31`	`nurdys`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, you used msn`
`13:05.42`	`nurdys`	`koshie, tu dort`
`13:05.49`	`koshie`	`Non`
`13:05.51`	`koshie`	`Hi all`
`13:05.55`	`koshie`	`nurdys, MSN IS THE SHIT MY FRIEND !`
`13:05.57`	`koshie`	`Use Jabber.`
`13:06.12`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`No way for msn`
`13:06.13`	`nurdys`	`koshie, yes but all my firend are on msn`
`13:06.19`	`nurdys`	`i know`
`13:06.23`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`jabber is our ALL`
`13:06.50`	`koshie`	`nurdys, and ?`
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`13:06.54`	`nurdys`	`koshie, moi jai fait un reinstallation et plus de page non je decone mais le mode infirmiere et bien`
`13:07.00`	`koshie`	`Avant mes amis aussi`
`13:07.05`	`koshie`	`Maintenant ils ont jabber, pour moi ;)`
`13:07.14`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`nurdys, Jabber have transports to msn`
`13:07.35`	`koshie`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, with "passerelle" ?`
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`13:07.39`	`koshie`	`Is not the best way.`
`13:07.42`	`nurdys`	`i can use the same adress?`
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`13:08.20`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`it is only way to talk with msn contacts.`
`13:08.32`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`use AMSN or what is it`
`13:08.40`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`emesn`
`13:08.42`	`koshie`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, I've a best way`
`13:08.45`	`nurdys`	`amsn it shit`
`13:08.52`	`nurdys`	`et emese i can connect`
`13:08.58`	`koshie`	`Don't use msn, switch our friend on Jabber.`
`13:09.02`	`koshie`	`It's my way, and that work !`
`13:09.19`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`koshie, :) Yes many ++++`
`13:09.29`	`koshie`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, My best friend are on Jabber for me`
`13:09.32`	`koshie`	`And my girl friend too ;)`
`13:09.41`	`koshie`	`Other, it's not my problem`
`13:09.44`	`koshie`	`I've a cellphone.`
`13:10.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:) True`
`13:11.28`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`nurdys, maybe you need a new version of this emsne`
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`13:12.12`	`koshie`	`nurdys, j'ai un article lÃ -dessus sur mon ancien blog`
`13:12.19`	`koshie`	`koshie.wordpress.com je crois`
`13:12.20`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`or just use pidgin. its a multi protocol IM to be used with any account.`
`13:12.21`	`koshie`	`Va voir ;)`
`13:12.29`	`koshie`	`AlexAnteMachina, or forget MSN :D`
`13:12.48`	`nurdys`	`AlexAnteMachina, i cant connecte`
`13:13.03`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Start msn in wine :)`
`13:13.11`	`koshie`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, die.`
`13:13.21`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:(`
`13:13.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`13:14.03`	`koshie`	`:)`
`13:14.09`	`koshie`	`Use Jabber or die.`
`13:14.10`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Why not? M$ msn in wine + all M$'s viruses. I'd love this`
`13:14.35`	`nurdys`	`i fine a solution`
`13:14.41`	`koshie`	`nurdys, USE JABBER`
`13:14.43`	`koshie`	`IS THE WAY`
`13:14.46`	`koshie`	`THE ONE WAY`
`13:14.49`	`koshie`	`stop`
`13:14.50`	`nurdys`	`dont use client de messagerie`
`13:14.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`koshie, :)))`
`13:15.08`	`koshie`	`nurdys, Meuh si`
`13:15.15`	`koshie`	`je veux bien Ãªtre ton premier contact jabber`
`13:15.19`	`koshie`	`et aider tes amis Ã migrer.`
`13:15.39`	`nurdys`	`mias c pas sa c que msn quand tu travaille en groupe c pratique`
`13:15.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`nurdys, Why you can not connect?`
`13:15.46`	`nurdys`	`et tu va p les faire changer`
`13:15.57`	`koshie`	`nurdys, ...?`
`13:16.01`	`koshie`	`Si`
`13:16.03`	`koshie`	`1/ Tu peux`
`13:16.11`	`koshie`	`2/ Sur Jabber tu as des salons persistant avec topic et modo, comme irc.`
`13:16.44`	`nurdys`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, i dont know the cant resolved the password and the mail`
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`13:17.19`	`nurdys`	`koshie, ta la webcam ? le son etout le truc inutil`
`13:17.47`	`koshie`	`C'est encore en dÃ©v la webcam et le son, Ã§a marche, ou pas. Ãa s'amÃ©liore.`
`13:17.51`	`koshie`	`Mais j'utilise jamais la webcam.`
`13:17.53`	`koshie`	`SÃ©rieux.`
`13:17.57`	`koshie`	`L'intÃ©rÃªt est nul.`
`13:18.07`	`koshie`	`Mise Ã part ce dÃ©tail`
`13:18.12`	`koshie`	`Jabber est 100 fois mieux qu'MSN ;)`
`13:18.17`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`nurdys, but not protocol error?`
`13:20.00`	`koshie`	`nurdys, juste comme Ã§a, fait un compte jabber. Et essaie de migrer en douceur tes contacts, ta petite copine...`
`13:20.01`	`koshie`	`:D`
`13:20.10`	`nurdys`	`koshie, ouais mais deja`
`13:20.15`	`nurdys`	`je le est mi en multiboot`
`13:20.20`	`nurdys`	`changement petite a petit`
`13:20.34`	`nurdys`	`mais quand a besoin daller vite en travaille de groupe tout lemonde utilise msn`
`13:24.05`	`koshie`	`nurdys, sauf que jabber c'est aussi rapide, et mieux`
`13:24.08`	`koshie`	`car salon persistant`
`13:24.16`	`koshie`	`Pas besoin de se casser les couilles Ã inviter un tel ou un tel`
`13:24.28`	`koshie`	`nurdys, l'essayer c'est l'adopter.`
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`13:29.40`	`koshie`	`re`
`13:30.06`	`nurdys`	`ri`
`13:33.12`	`koshie`	`Je suis un immonde boulet`
`13:33.36`	`koshie`	`AprÃ¨s 3 ans et demi sur GNU/Linux, j'ai eu une idÃ©e gÃ©nial. Ãditer les menus pour que lorsque tu as KDE et GNOME sur ton PC, les appli de l'un pourrissent pas le menu de l'autre.`
`13:33.38`	`koshie`	`3 ans et demi...`
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`14:40.46`	`elmo40`	`nurdys: try Finch for msn.`
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`14:52.36`	`yebyen`	`hum`
`14:52.46`	`yebyen`	`i figured out why hurd is giving me errors`
`14:52.52`	`yebyen`	`not enough memory to install`
`14:53.53`	`yebyen`	`i think so at least`
`14:55.23`	`yebyen`	`and not fstab loaded early enough`
`14:55.26`	`yebyen`	`with the swap partition`
`14:57.24`	`elmo40`	`doesn't sound normal`
`14:57.33`	`elmo40`	`what would it load differently?`
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`15:07.14`	`Elive_user61_en`	`cant get uk keyboard, help?`
`15:08.18`	`Elive_user61_en`	`??`
`15:09.04`	`elmo40`	`what is a uk keyboard?`
`15:09.12`	`elmo40`	`different then us keyboard?`
`15:09.22`	`Elive_user61_en`	`uk language on keyboard I mean`
`15:09.26`	`elmo40`	`what is so different, the 'pound' sign? ;)`
`15:09.39`	`elmo40`	`you mean English?`
`15:09.41`	`elmo40`	`:P`
`15:09.41`	`Elive_user61_en`	`yep, and the @`
`15:09.52`	`Elive_user61_en`	`yes, British`
`15:10.10`	`elmo40`	`kbconf?`
`15:10.12`	`elmo40`	`from console`
`15:10.32`	`Elive_user61_en`	`sorry, newbie :(`
`15:10.35`	`elmo40`	`or... in the settings for E, Left-click > Settings > ...`
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`15:43.00`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hey PrinceAMD`
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`15:51.15`	`Elive_user14_it`	`Ciao`
`15:51.22`	`Elive_user14_it`	`Ciao a tutti!`
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`16:03.21`	`Elive_user14_it`	`Ciao`
`16:03.40`	`Elive_user14_it`	`Chi sa dirmi come posso recuperare il codice per installare elive? =)`
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`16:36.17`	`koshie`	`Hey`
`16:36.23`	`koshie`	`Anyone can hl me please ?`
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`16:38.13`	`nurdys`	`koshie, i give some rhum to help yourself`
`16:38.29`	`koshie`	`rhum? :p`
`16:38.37`	`koshie`	`Genre le truc alcoolisÃ© ou la maladie ?`
`16:38.43`	`koshie`	`Remarque, les deux peuvent Ãªtre liÃ©s ;).`
`16:39.01`	`nurdys`	`le truc all cool ise`
`16:39.09`	`nurdys`	`c qoui la maladie`
`16:39.16`	`koshie`	`Le rhume :)`
`16:41.28`	`nurdys`	`koshie, ta recut un truc qui sapelle fr.po`
`16:41.37`	`koshie`	`?`
`16:41.39`	`koshie`	`Non.`
`16:43.08`	`Elive_user76_en`	`.`
`16:43.30`	`nurdys`	`koshie, tu n'est pas inscrite sur la liste`
`16:43.35`	`nurdys`	`koshie, taider a faire qoui`
`16:44.00`	`koshie`	`nurdys: bon dieu, de quoi tu parle? :o`
`16:45.03`	`nurdys`	`<koshie> Anyone can hl me please ?`
`16:45.25`	`koshie`	`Oui, et ?`
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`16:50.11`	`nurdys`	`koshie, jai compris help me`
`16:51.28`	`koshie`	`nurdys: :)`
`16:51.30`	`koshie`	`Non c'bon, merci.`
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`16:53.51`	`Elive_user57_it`	`hi people, i only want to know a thing about ati support on elive 2.0 live`
`16:54.31`	`Elive_user57_it`	`someone here?`
`16:54.46`	`nurdys`	`yes`
`16:54.55`	`koshie`	`Elive_user57_it: just ask.`
`16:55.25`	`Elive_user57_it`	`i've an hp laptop with ati mobility radeon hd 4350`
`16:55.49`	`Elive_user57_it`	`and i tried to run in live with "ati" "radeon" and "fglrx"`
`16:56.04`	`Elive_user57_it`	`but i only can run with vesa`
`16:57.00`	`Elive_user57_it`	`if i would install elive 2.0 can i install fgkrx driver properly?`
`16:57.23`	`mathesis`	`Thanatermesis, thanks, it's elive is great!!!`
`16:58.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user57_it, have you tried the "old kernel" iso ?`
`16:58.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`mathesis, :)`
`16:58.22`	`Elive_user57_it`	`Thanatermesis, not i tried only the new kernel iso`
`16:58.26`	`nurdys`	`Thanatermesis, hi`
`16:58.57`	`mathesis`	`i have install point of sale in elive topaz :)`
`16:59.18`	`nurdys`	`who try xplanet`
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`16:59.45`	`mathesis`	`this is work good`
`17:00.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user57_it, so try the old kernel one, that includes the fglrx driver by default, and see if works everything on your computer's hardware`
`17:00.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi nurdys`
`17:02.15`	`Elive_user57_it`	`Thanatermesis, i'm really impressed about my wireless configuration`
`17:02.30`	`batden`	`nurdys: waiting for e17XPlanet`
`17:02.37`	`batden`	`http://www.squaregoldfish.co.uk/software/e17xplanet/`
`17:02.41`	`nurdys`	`Thanatermesis, what it fr.po`
`17:03.14`	`nurdys`	`hi it you who talk about this software`
`17:03.50`	`Elive_user57_it`	`elive detect correctly my wifi card`
`17:04.04`	`Elive_user57_it`	`and i'm connectable in 1 minute`
`17:04.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`17:04.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`nurdys, hu ?`
`17:05.18`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, Elive_user57_it have a new ATI video card`
`17:05.42`	`Elive_user57_it`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, yes i've one of the latest`
`17:05.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`I think he can install drivers`
`17:06.10`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`But why it not work with open driver?`
`17:06.43`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Elive_user57_it, Have you try all options for ATI there?`
`17:06.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, not in topaz, so he must try the old kernel`
`17:06.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`the version of xorg doesnt accept the new one`
`17:06.57`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, oh maybe`
`17:07.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is why the new kernel doesnt include fglrx`
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`17:07.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`only the old kernel version`
`17:07.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Ati is still shit`
`17:07.28`	`Elive_user57_it`	`Thanatermesis, when i tried fglrx i had something like "not found". fglrx isn't in the new kernel cd?`
`17:08.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, exactly :) like always`
`17:08.43`	`Elive_user57_it`	`oh, thanx Thanatermesis now i read your latest lines`
`17:08.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`ati always give problems`
`17:09.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user57_it, yeah, exactly, this is why you need to use hte "old kernel" version`
`17:09.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user57_it, it is included in the old kernel`
`17:09.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`fglrx doesn't build for the new kernel of Elive`
`17:09.29`	`nurdys`	`batden, interessant`
`17:09.38`	`batden`	`indeed`
`17:10.18`	`Elive_user57_it`	`Thanatermesis, nex versions will be supported, in an installed topaz?`
`17:11.00`	`Elive_user57_it`	`because i'm thinking to install anyway the new kernel version`
`17:11.19`	`Elive_user57_it`	`and upgrade my driver , when supported`
`17:11.51`	`Elive_user57_it`	`hoping in a wait not of 1 year...`
`17:12.29`	`nurdys`	`batden, when we can used it`
`17:13.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user57_it, not in topaz`
`17:13.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`one second`
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`17:17.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`fglrx topaz`
`17:17.51`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: you need to use the "old kernel" iso if you want fglrx, fglrx doesn't compile with the new kernel so you need a new version of fglrx for that compiles, but then not works with the version of xorg included in topaz, ati sucks again`
`17:17.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user57_it, DronAn[BY]_eeepc ^`
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`17:18.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`17:18.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Sucks shure`
`17:19.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks ati :)`
`17:19.03`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Never ever ATI again`
`17:19.03`	`batden`	`nurdys: e17xplanet it's an old program that used to work well...`
`17:19.25`	`batden`	`here is a screenshot from long time ago:`
`17:19.33`	`batden`	`http://pourunmondesansgourou.ifrance.com/Images/e17xplanet.png`
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`17:23.11`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`hi MerMouY_Zinud`
`17:27.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, i have received an email and i dont understand it...`
`17:27.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`im a bit scared about this email`
`17:27.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`Ð´Ð¾Ð±ÑÑÐ¹ Ð´ÐµÐ½Ñ! ÐÐ±ÑÐ°ÑÐ°ÐµÐ¼ÑÑ Ðº ÐÐ°Ð¼ Ñ Ð¿ÑÐ¾ÑÑÐ±Ð¾Ð¹-Ð¿ÑÐµÐ´Ð¾ÑÑÐ°Ð²Ð¸ÑÑ Ð²Ð¾Ð·Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶Ð½Ð¾ÑÑÑ Ð¶ÐµÑÑÐ²ÐµÐ½Ð½Ð¾ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÑÐ·Ð¾Ð²Ð°ÑÑÑÑ Ð»Ð¸Ð½ÑÐºÑ Elive. Ð¡ ÑÐ²Ð°Ð¶ÐµÐ½Ð¸ÐµÐ¼, Ð´ÑÑÐ¾Ð²Ð½ÑÐ¹ Ð¼Ð¾Ð½Ð°ÑÑÑÑÑ Ð¡Ð¾Ð»Ð¾Ð²ÐµÑÐºÐ¾Ð¹ ÑÐµÑÐºÐ²Ð¸.`
`17:27.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`good day! We are writing to you to-provide an opportunity for sacrificial use Linux Elive. Sincerely, spiritual Solovetsky monastery church`
`17:27.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oo`
`17:27.47`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`17:28.59`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`what is the email addres?`
`17:29.16`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`17:30.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, is this google translate from ru?`
`17:31.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`17:31.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`is in the same email`
`17:31.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`they are a satanist sect ?`
`17:31.29`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`O:-)`
`17:31.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`email is gmail`
`17:31.44`	`evryanz`	`Wow`
`17:31.48`	`MerMouY_Zinud`	`finally some news...`
`17:31.51`	`evryanz`	`Who's that?`
`17:31.56`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`NO they just Church`
`17:31.57`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`17:31.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`"oportunity for sacrificial Elive", sounds scary lol`
`17:32.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`It is google translate i think`
`17:32.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, mmh, what's the difference ?`
`17:32.22`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`But i think it is just a joke`
`17:32.26`	`evryanz`	`I think they mean donation`
`17:32.30`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Yes`
`17:32.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, and what they says exactly then ?`
`17:32.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`17:32.38`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`It is donation`
`17:32.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`what about church ?`
`17:33.07`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, they ask you if you can donate using Elive to them`
`17:33.11`	`evryanz`	`They want you to give them free use of Elive`
`17:33.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`17:33.26`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`17:33.36`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, what is email?`
`17:33.50`	`evryanz`	`In other words, they don't want to pay for Elive, but they want to use it... :D`
`17:33.58`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`17:34.00`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Yes`
`17:34.18`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`I hate churches`
`17:34.35`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`and religens`
`17:35.13`	`batden`	`good start point!`
`17:35.13`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`http://solovky.ru/reserve/ties/monastery.shtml`
`17:35.21`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`Thanatermesis, did you read the message I've sent you?`
`17:36.04`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`About the sponsoring.`
`17:36.18`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`http://www.museum.ru/solovki/webcam2.asp`
`17:36.55`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, it is a joke :) They cheat you. email is not from church :)`
`17:37.20`	`batden`	`nurdys, another screenshot featuring e17xplanet (from an old mandriva installation):`
`17:37.23`	`batden`	`http://pourunmondesansgourou.ifrance.com/Images/Bureau.png`
`17:40.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Thanatermesis, but isn't there email from another russian? He did article and want invite`
`17:41.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, if you think that about religions, you will love this video :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o`
`17:41.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`AlexAnteMachina, no, i have not read it, it was too long, sorry`
`17:42.06`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`religins are opium :)`
`17:42.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, check out that video ;) you will laugh`
`17:42.28`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`too long?`
`17:43.04`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Yes :0 Like this`
`17:43.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`AlexAnteMachina, yes, i answer around 200 emails per day and i dont even have time to do other things, i dont have time to read a 100-lines long email`
`17:43.23`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`I saw it :)`
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`17:45.22`	`batden`	`"holy shit"!`
`17:45.36`	`Akai_Oni`	`I need some help getting rid of a pager that I added and now I can't remove it any body have any suggestions?`
`17:46.10`	`AlexAnteMachina`	`but Thanatermesis this ideas of that unixmen.com Webmaster been quite interesting.`
`17:46.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`Akai_Oni, right click`
`17:46.52`	`Akai_Oni`	`I did the onlyoptions I have are settings and virtual desktop settings`
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`17:54.43`	`OpenSpace`	`Thanatermesis, religious (sacred not sacrifice) purpose would be better translation I think`
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`18:03.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`OpenSpace, they scared me with the sacrifice of Elive :)`
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`18:03.56`	`OpenSpace`	`Elive_user4_ru, hello`
`18:04.07`	`nurdys`	`Thanatermesis, tu sais pas ou je peut trouve e17xplanet`
`18:04.43`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`Oo`
`18:04.47`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`Ð ÑÐµ ÑÑÐ¾? ))`
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`18:06.13`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, go f*** away`
`18:06.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`?`
`18:06.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`18:06.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`:Ã¾`
`18:07.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`nurdys, what's that ?`
`18:07.19`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`:D`
`18:07.31`	`nurdys`	`a software to you a map on you screen`
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`18:07.38`	`nurdys`	`animate screen`
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`18:08.10`	`Elive_user23_es`	`hola`
`18:08.24`	`keyra`	`Elive_user23_es: que tal ?`
`18:08.59`	`Elive_user23_es`	`me gustaria saber como conseguir un codigo de instalacion, gracias`
`18:10.00`	`Elive_user23_es`	`me gustaria probar el so`
`18:11.40`	`Akai_Oni`	`puede probar con live cd`
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`18:13.14`	`Elive_user23_es`	`hola akai`
`18:13.54`	`Elive_user23_es`	`me gustaria probarlo de verdad`
`18:14.09`	`Akai_Oni`	`hola lo siento pero yo se un piquito espanol`
`18:14.28`	`Elive_user23_es`	`ok`
`18:16.08`	`Elive_user23_es`	`only i can install this so with one code`
`18:18.43`	`Akai_Oni`	`Puedes hablar espanol`
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`18:20.03`	`Akai_Oni`	`fue bueno practica para mi`
`18:21.02`	`Elive_user23_es`	`i need installation code`
`18:21.16`	`keyra`	`Elive_user23_es: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes`
`18:21.24`	`Elive_user23_es`	`necesito un codigo de instalacion`
`18:23.35`	`Elive_user23_es`	`very well, is there any way to get the code differently?`
`18:25.14`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`sorry, but what code do you need?`
`18:25.27`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Free invite?`
`18:25.38`	`Elive_user23_es`	`yes`
`18:26.10`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`all about invites on the link`
`18:26.23`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, code`
`18:26.27`	`Elive_user23_es`	`ok`
`18:26.42`	`Akai_Oni`	`si quieres puede escribir un articulo sobre elive o si tu eres un estudiante escribir un e-mail a thanatermesis`
`18:26.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`And if you are C codder`
`18:26.55`	`nurdys`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, it you talk about xplanet?`
`18:27.05`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`No`
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`18:28.31`	`Elive_user23_es`	`I am a student of economy`
`18:28.48`	`Elive_user23_es`	`donde tengo que escribir`
`18:28.52`	`Elive_user23_es`	`el email`
`18:29.30`	`Akai_Oni`	`creo que aqui http://www.elivecd.org/Main/Contact`
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`18:30.45`	`Laberkopf`	`offtopic: is it a Denial of Service attakck if you build a loop with 2 url shorteners? :D`
`18:31.00`	`Elive_user23_es`	`sinplemente con decir que soy estudiante a thanatermesis es suficiente pÃ ra conseguir el codigo`
`18:32.28`	`Akai_Oni`	`con un explicacion porque lo tienes`
`18:32.41`	`Akai_Oni`	`lo siento`
`18:32.44`	`Akai_Oni`	`lo quires`
`18:32.55`	`Elive_user23_es`	`lo quieres`
`18:33.03`	`Elive_user23_es`	`ok`
`18:34.27`	`Elive_user23_es`	`como mando el email con elive?`
`18:35.10`	`Akai_Oni`	`que?`
`18:35.31`	`Elive_user23_es`	`How do I send email com Elive?`
`18:35.46`	`Elive_user67_en`	`Elive_user0_en, lol`
`18:35.53`	`Elive_user67_en`	`first u need a mail player`
`18:35.57`	`Elive_user23_es`	`How do I send email with Elive?`
`18:36.04`	`Elive_user67_en`	`and secundo elive don't have a mail player`
`18:36.06`	`Elive_user67_en`	`so`
`18:36.08`	`Akai_Oni`	`ice weasel`
`18:36.13`	`Elive_user67_en`	`i advice u`
`18:36.24`	`Elive_user67_en`	`use something like that`
`18:36.29`	`Akai_Oni`	`y gmail`
`18:36.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`18:36.45`	`Elive_user67_en`	`u know the story of the futur come from the past`
`18:36.52`	`Elive_user67_en`	`it's the same story`
`18:37.06`	`Elive_user67_en`	`the futur is in the past, evrythink is writing`
`18:37.11`	`Elive_user67_en`	`in the great book`
`18:37.33`	`Elive_user67_en`	`[/deliruim_end]`
`18:37.44`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
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`18:38.02`	`Akai_Oni`	`you believe that`
`18:38.11`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`Oh Hello`
`18:38.14`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`ALL`
`18:38.17`	`Elive_user23_es`	`que loco`
`18:38.29`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`How can i install Elive?`
`18:38.38`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`I need code`
`18:38.47`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`instalation code`
`18:38.59`	`Elive_user67_en`	`if u want code u need paid brother`
`18:39.00`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`Where can i get i?`
`18:39.07`	`Elive_user67_en`	`on the web site, wth`
`18:39.10`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`F***`
`18:39.12`	`Elive_user67_en`	`with money`
`18:39.20`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`But i want to pay`
`18:39.30`	`Elive_user67_en`	`so paid`
`18:39.37`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`and i'm lazy bustard`
`18:39.38`	`OpenSpace`	`Laberkopf, that depends on the http server implementation, it should send one of 300-303 response codes and server can check if that original link points to a redirect also`
`18:40.05`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`I just want it`
`18:40.21`	`Akai_Oni`	`well if you have a legitament reason why you shouldn't pay like for educational usage or if you want to write an article about the OS on a webiste you can get one`
`18:40.31`	`Akai_Oni`	`maybe`
`18:40.43`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`I'm too lazy`
`18:40.52`	`Akai_Oni`	`well then sol`
`18:40.53`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`and greedy`
`18:41.20`	`OpenSpace`	`Laberkopf, browsers are also not allowing circular redirects`
`18:41.21`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`But anyway. Thank's all you ppl`
`18:42.24`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`Or maybe i can say just i'm poor student?`
`18:42.39`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`from russia`
`18:42.40`	`Akai_Oni`	`I guess you can try ti`
`18:42.46`	`Akai_Oni`	`it`
`18:43.06`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`but i'm not student :(`
`18:43.10`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`confuse`
`18:43.13`	`Elive_user23_es`	`Akai gracias por la ayuda`
`18:43.14`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`:D`
`18:43.21`	`Akai_Oni`	`de nada`
`18:43.41`	`Elive_user23_es`	`espero que mejores el idioma`
`18:43.56`	`Elive_user23_es`	`un saludo.`
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`18:45.17`	`Elive_user4_ru`	`bb all and thank's i'm realy like wark you do`
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`18:49.59`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`espero que mejores el idioma What does it mean?`
`18:50.10`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`idioma? Hmm`
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`19:00.17`	`Akai_Oni`	`enlish`
`19:00.19`	`Akai_Oni`	`english`
`19:01.09`	`Elive_user67_en`	`arabic`
`19:01.10`	`Elive_user67_en`	`?`
`19:01.27`	`Elive_user49_en`	`what?`
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`19:17.14`	`Elive_user49_en`	`???`
`19:19.35`	`chdrsto`	`Hi guys`
`19:28.14`	`Elive_user49_en`	`hello`
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`19:31.06`	`Butcher`	`Hi all !`
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`19:32.02`	`Butcher`	`somebody can tell me, how i can reinstall elive after a crash disk ?`
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`19:32.16`	`keyra`	`Butcher: You don't know how install Elive? Honey... is not that hard...! Just click the Install-icon in the Docker!`
`19:33.38`	`Elive_user49_en`	`Butcher: keyra is a bot`
`19:33.52`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: you think so?`
`19:34.08`	`Butcher`	`oh ! damn !! thx Elive_user49_en ;)`
`19:35.24`	`Butcher`	`How many time you can use the "installer-module" when you buy it ???`
`19:36.52`	`Elive_user49_en`	`After to pay for the installation, you don't need to pay per EVERY TIME you reinstall your Elive, it will be compatible under the rest of the versions (development, compiz, etc...) until the next Stable Release`
`19:37.06`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one`
`19:37.07`	`Elive_user49_en`	`speaking of, i bet alot of people no upgrade to last version`
`19:39.44`	`Butcher`	`i try to reinstall elive on a new disk and when give my "installer-module.cod", i got the message "this programm of installation-module is not valable"`
`19:39.58`	`keyra`	`Butcher: You don't know how install Elive? Honey... is not that hard...! Just click the Install-icon in the Docker!`
`19:40.00`	`Butcher`	`you got some ideas about taht ?`
`19:40.34`	`Elive_user49_en`	`are you trying install a different version then had before?`
`19:41.22`	`Butcher`	`no`
`19:41.48`	`Elive_user49_en`	`i dont know problem then`
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`19:44.45`	`Butcher`	`thx u Elive_user49_en ;)`
`19:48.37`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra: are you an idiot?`
`19:49.44`	`Elive_user49_en`	`playing with bots is always fun`
`19:49.52`	`Elive_user49_en`	`keyra how do you install elive`
`19:50.06`	`keyra`	`Elive_user49_en: I do how do you don't do my doyoudo when I do`
`19:50.18`	`Elive_user49_en`	`LOL`
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`19:53.07`	`Butcher`	`lol`
`19:55.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`Butcher, update your installer, there's new and more clear steps and messages: apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g`
`19:55.15`	`keyra`	`Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do`
`19:59.26`	`Butcher`	`Thanatermesis, ok but from the live-cd, it's possible to perfom apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-4g ? Because i got nothing on my new HD ...`
`19:59.49`	`koshie`	`Butcher, Yes you can.`
`20:00.06`	`Butcher`	`ok try now ;`
`20:00.10`	`Butcher`	`;)`
`20:00.14`	`koshie`	`The live CD is like a real system, but after reboot you have anything on your HD, because is not on the HD.`
`20:01.46`	`Butcher`	`ok`
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`20:09.42`	`Elive_user49_en`	`And?`
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`20:45.25`	`Elive_user14_it`	`hi`
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`20:46.01`	`Elive_user96_es`	`buenas no hablo ingles...`
`20:46.15`	`keyra`	`Elive_user96_es: nas nas`
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`20:47.24`	`Elive_user96_es`	`soy de venezuela quisiera saber como puedo obtener una invitacion para instalar elive ya que no tengo como colaborar con el proyecto`
`20:47.49`	`Elive_user96_es`	`o con quien puedo contactar`
`20:49.45`	`Elive_user96_es`	`quien me puede ayudar`
`20:49.55`	`alias_dubs`	`hi`
`20:50.24`	`Elive_user96_es`	`desde hace tiempo uso venido usando e17 pero hasta ahora me dispuse a instalar elive`
`20:50.27`	`Elive_user96_es`	`hola`
`20:50.50`	`alias_dubs`	`i don't speak spanish sorry`
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`20:51.24`	`keyra`	`Elive_user96_es: que tal ?`
`20:51.33`	`Elive_user19_en`	`:)`
`20:51.37`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Ð)`
`20:51.38`	`Elive_user96_es`	`keyra me puedes ayudar`
`20:51.39`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)`
`20:51.53`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Elive_user96_es, ooo. He is bot`
`20:52.04`	`Elive_user96_es`	`thank you <alias_dubs>`
`20:52.41`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`usualy here is lot of spanish speekers`
`20:52.42`	`Elive_user96_es`	`que dices DronAn[BY]_eeepc`
`20:53.06`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`but now they sleep:)`
`20:53.27`	`Elive_user96_es`	`keyra como puedo conseguir la invitacion para instalar elive`
`20:53.48`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`installer code`
`20:54.12`	`alias_dubs`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, i think he want an invitation`
`20:54.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, must answer`
`20:54.34`	`alias_dubs`	`he wants to help the porject and get an invitation`
`20:54.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, installer code`
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`20:55.05`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, install code`
`20:55.30`	`Elive_user96_es`	`como hago eso?`
`20:55.31`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`why keyra don't answer`
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`20:55.43`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra bot`
`20:56.02`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, bot`
`20:56.23`	`RuudKuin`	`Hi all, testing Elive Topaz at the moment, looking great`
`20:56.32`	`alias_dubs`	`yep`
`20:56.35`	`alias_dubs`	`hi`
`20:56.48`	`Unixmen`	`Yes is elive is looking great`
`20:56.54`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: bot`
`20:56.56`	`RuudKuin`	`On an Acer Aspire One, works quite fast indeed`
`20:57.12`	`RuudKuin`	`Thanatermesis are you here too?`
`20:57.18`	`alias_dubs`	`on acer timeline too ;)`
`20:57.21`	`alias_dubs`	`*my`
`20:57.30`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, installer code`
`20:57.39`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, install code`
`20:57.39`	`RuudKuin`	`Sent you a mail with LinuxUser info`
`20:58.10`	`alias_dubs`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, i think keyra is somehow completely out of order`
`20:58.30`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`alias_dubs, :) sleep`
`20:58.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`copy-paste`
`20:58.51`	`alias_dubs`	`;)`
`20:59.09`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`hi is sleep indid`
`20:59.38`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time`
`20:59.47`	`RuudKuin`	`keyra, can't you block crappy users?`
`21:00.02`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:D`
`21:00.36`	`Elive_user96_es`	`hey quien me podria ayudar?`
`21:00.47`	`Elive_user96_es`	`quiero instalar elive`
`21:01.19`	`alias_dubs`	`Elive_user96_es, may be Thanatermesis, he speaks spanish...`
`21:01.29`	`alias_dubs`	`and he's the boss ;)`
`21:01.55`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Elive_user96_es, only thana`
`21:02.03`	`Elive_user96_es`	`buenas Thanatermesis podrias ayudarme`
`21:02.31`	`keyra`	`Elive_user96_es: nas nas`
`21:02.35`	`alias_dubs`	`...`
`21:02.39`	`Elive_user96_es`	`?`
`21:02.52`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Ð¾Ð`
`21:03.01`	`RuudKuin`	`Thanks!`
`21:03.07`	`RuudKuin`	`:D`
`21:03.11`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`apt, where are they?`
`21:03.13`	`apt`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: what are you talking about?`
`21:03.22`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`apt, Oo`
`21:03.23`	`apt`	`well, oo is normally "object oriented", but lately it's come to mean "Open Office" too`
`21:03.41`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`apt, :)`
`21:03.42`	`apt`	`(:`
`21:03.51`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`apt, :D`
`21:03.52`	`apt`	`d is Soraya_'s unique version of the n disease. There is no cure.`
`21:04.05`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`:)))`
`21:05.25`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`apt, Thana`
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`21:07.10`	`Butcher`	`Good night all ;)`
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`21:08.15`	`Elive_user96_es`	`vengo mas tarde`
`21:08.19`	`Elive_user96_es`	`gracias!`
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`21:17.41`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`keyra, hello bot`
`21:17.55`	`keyra`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: hi`
`21:18.00`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`oO`
`21:18.21`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`installer code`
`21:18.34`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`install code`
`21:18.44`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`installer cod`
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`21:20.07`	`raininja`	`Thana; PING`
`21:20.13`	`raininja`	`oh lol`
`21:20.17`	`raininja`	`she is not here`
`21:20.26`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`? she`
`21:20.28`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`??`
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`21:21.17`	`raininja`	`um yea`
`21:21.18`	`raininja`	`she`
`21:21.19`	`AlexAnteee`	`hey Unixmen`
`21:21.24`	`Elive_user4_es`	`HOLA`
`21:21.26`	`raininja`	`is that supposed to be a secret`
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`21:21.46`	`raininja`	`unless you look at any of the elive videos`
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`21:22.39`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oo`
`21:22.43`	`raininja`	`hi AlexAnteeemachina`
`21:22.50`	`AlexAnteee`	`hey raininja`
`21:22.58`	`AlexAnteee`	`what videos r u talking about?`
`21:23.06`	`raininja`	`elive videos`
`21:23.19`	`AlexAnteee`	`I thought I knew them all.`
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`21:23.30`	`AlexAnteee`	`seems like i was wrong.`
`21:23.40`	`AlexAnteee`	`any link, raininja ?`
`21:23.43`	`raininja`	`no`
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`21:24.00`	`raininja`	`i watched it while ago but it is there, i think on her site`
`21:24.04`	`raininja`	`her/his`
`21:24.06`	`raininja`	`whatever`
`21:24.11`	`raininja`	`(she is a she)`
`21:24.14`	`AlexAnteee`	`on what site?`
`21:24.38`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`AlexAnteee, he said Thanatermesis is a girl :)`
`21:24.40`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oo`
`21:24.47`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Or she said`
`21:25.06`	`AlexAnteee`	`he, she ...`
`21:25.17`	`AlexAnteee`	`i dont care about that.`
`21:25.35`	`raininja`	`she is a girl`
`21:25.37`	`raininja`	`lol`
`21:25.47`	`raininja`	`a greek one`
`21:25.52`	`raininja`	`is that so special`
`21:25.58`	`raininja`	`girls do use computers.`
`21:26.02`	`AlexAnteee`	`greek?`
`21:26.06`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`are they?`
`21:26.07`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oo`
`21:26.18`	`raininja`	`so she is not greek now.`
`21:26.34`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`raininja, are you girl?`
`21:26.43`	`raininja`	`no`
`21:26.45`	`raininja`	`are you?`
`21:27.00`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`but your nick said so :(`
`21:27.14`	`raininja`	`>`
`21:27.16`	`AlexAnteee`	`raininja, if its true what you tell, I wonder why thana makes everybody believe thana is male and moved from belgium to spain.`
`21:27.17`	`raininja`	`wut`
`21:27.19`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`ja at the end of nick mean that is girl`
`21:27.40`	`AlexAnteee`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, only in russian.`
`21:27.45`	`raininja`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc: not in japanese`
`21:27.54`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`AlexAnteee, :)`
`21:27.58`	`raininja`	`AlexAnteee: maybe she does not want everyone to know`
`21:27.59`	`keyra`	`raininja: Elive in japanese ? Have a look to http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml`
`21:28.10`	`AlexAnteee`	`lol... raininja`
`21:28.17`	`AlexAnteee`	`but how do you know?`
`21:28.19`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`bullshit :)`
`21:28.25`	`raininja`	`could be`
`21:28.40`	`AlexAnteee`	`oh, so there is no hard evidence or even knowledge.`
`21:28.47`	`AlexAnteee`	`just a wild guess.`
`21:28.51`	`raininja`	`of course NO girls are smart enough to have a distro`
`21:29.00`	`AlexAnteee`	`huh?`
`21:29.08`	`AlexAnteee`	`what a shit.`
`21:29.15`	`raininja`	`this is what you are implying`
`21:29.20`	`AlexAnteee`	`no`
`21:29.25`	`raininja`	`yes`
`21:29.28`	`AlexAnteee`	`NO`
`21:29.31`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`AlexAnteee, and why not`
`21:29.32`	`raininja`	`YES`
`21:29.32`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`?`
`21:29.39`	`raininja`	`lol`
`21:29.42`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Girls can do NOTING`
`21:29.46`	`raininja`	`^`
`21:29.51`	`raininja`	`told ya`
`21:29.55`	`AlexAnteee`	`cause thana calles him/her-self Samuel Flores Baggen.`
`21:30.01`	`raininja`	`hmm`
`21:30.02`	`AlexAnteee`	`this is a male name`
`21:30.06`	`raininja`	`true`
`21:30.08`	`raininja`	`but`
`21:30.16`	`raininja`	`i have my doubts`
`21:30.26`	`raininja`	`anyway`
`21:30.27`	`AlexAnteee`	`and he tells to have moved from belgium to spain.`
`21:30.47`	`raininja`	`s/he claimed to be greek when i first came here`
`21:30.49`	`AlexAnteee`	`now, what makes you think this is not true, raininja`
`21:30.51`	`AlexAnteee`	`??`
`21:30.52`	`raininja`	`infact`
`21:31.03`	`raininja`	`the hostmask of thana used to say .gr`
`21:31.08`	`raininja`	`anyways`
`21:31.11`	`raininja`	`i have aguests`
`21:31.14`	`raininja`	`later`
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`21:31.24`	`AlexAnteee`	`lol`
`21:32.12`	`Unixmen`	`Article about elive Topaz published in Unixmen`
`21:32.25`	`Unixmen`	`http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/864-elive-20-a-linux-desktop-that-combine-the-stability-speed-and-eycandy`
`21:32.39`	`keyra`	`Unixmen: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.`
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`21:34.02`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`AlexAnteee, it was some crayzy geek :)`
`21:34.48`	`AlexAnteee`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc, ??? what???`
`21:34.53`	`alias_dubs`	`Unixmen, nice \o/`
`21:34.56`	`AlexAnteee`	`hey cool, Unixmen !`
`21:36.26`	`Unixmen`	`Keyra , I know`
`21:37.07`	`Unixmen`	`I said here thata in India and Africa there are people still using pentium I computers`
`21:37.14`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Unixmen, but you can put screenshots in tags It will be better`
`21:38.24`	`Unixmen`	`This was just a quick article, and believe me will have more that 10.000 visit within the next 24 hours`
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`21:38.43`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`<div align="center"><a href="/files/tank_src2_small.jpg" title="Ð¢Ð°Ð½ÐºÐ¸ ÐÐ½Ð»Ð°Ð¹Ð½" class="thickbox"><img src="/files/tank_src2_small.jpg" alt="Ð¢Ð°Ð½ÐºÐ¸ ÐÐ½Ð»Ð°Ð¹Ð½"/></a></div>`
`21:38.50`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`As here for example`
`21:39.12`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Whan you click on the image it show bigger size`
`21:40.25`	`Unixmen`	`ok`
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`21:45.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`like you can see here http://ubuntueasy.com/node/398`
`21:47.14`	`Unixmen`	`is done`
`21:47.31`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Oo so fast :)`
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`21:49.28`	`Elive_user1_es`	`hello`
`21:49.45`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Hi`
`21:49.57`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Unixmen, I like those tags`
`21:50.45`	`Unixmen`	`:)`
`21:52.10`	`Unixmen`	`I posted that article because i liked elive so much and i wanted to spread the word, but hope that the public will not get shoked to see that they have to pay`
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`21:58.10`	`alias_dubs`	`20005 downloads \o/`
`22:00.09`	`AlexAnteee`	`alias_dubs, but the torrent downloads are not to count.`
`22:00.31`	`alias_dubs`	`even better then ;)`
`22:00.35`	`AlexAnteee`	`yep`
`22:01.07`	`AlexAnteee`	`going to bed now.`
`22:01.09`	`AlexAnteee`	`cu`
`22:03.02`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`Unixmen, OpenSource it is not mean Free`
`22:03.32`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`some one want to help in what he like`
`22:03.36`	`DronAn[BY]_eeepc`	`someone not`
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`23:31.15`	`yebyen`	`yay go language`
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`23:34.42`	`Elive_user54_es`	`hi`
`23:35.07`	`Maraver`	`helloooooooooooooooooooooo`
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`23:51.32`	`Elive_user11_en`	`hi im not sure about install elive, what do you think aboutit?`

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