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01:14.21Majaxnenuit all
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03:55.45Elive_user31_enhi
04:22.19elmo40twigga: someone is using Elive on eeePC
04:22.25elmo40don't know about 1005
04:22.34elmo40but 701 I am sure of
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04:46.42deusrDia duit!
04:46.46deusrhello!
04:46.55deusrsomeone here?
04:50.22deusrCompanionCube: hi
04:50.26deusrapt: hi
04:50.27apthello, deusr
04:51.28deusrapt: you use the elive?
04:52.00elmo40deusr: german?
04:52.52deusrif you know how to leave the dock elive not stay below the windows?
04:53.02deusrelmo40: no, portuguese :p
04:53.08deusrBrazil!
04:54.16elmo40below windows?
04:54.18elmo40you can set that
04:54.28elmo40right click on it, edit the properties
04:54.30elmo40simple enough
04:54.39elmo40Shelf 4, I believe?
04:54.42elmo40can't remember, actually...
04:55.37deusrum, cool, then I got a code to install elive I'll try it:)
04:57.45deusrelmo40: has more than a week that I had some questions for the developer of Elive, founder of the project or to answer me so I can ride that will leave an article in a magazine, then I should win a code, but it does not respond: /
04:59.01elmo40ya, thana is 'away'...
04:59.08elmo40!seen thanatermesis
04:59.08diabetikelmo40: thanatermesis was last seen in #elive 3 weeks, 5 days, 6 hours, 43 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <Thanatermesis> MrSandman, have you see this email ?
04:59.15elmo40a while now!
05:00.11deusr:/
05:01.18deusrelmo40: I'm not lying, if you want to show you the email I sent to him I even get a code to install and do some tests elive
05:02.02deusrelmo40: I'm on gentoo linux user, my intention is to install test to write something more concise
05:03.07deusrelmo40: I already have 3 books published on Linux, but it seems that developers are uninterested, I have to stay running after: /
05:03.57elmo40dev's don't like to talk
05:04.00elmo40they like to code :P
05:07.06deusrby ;)
05:07.18elmo40ciao
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07:31.55evryanzHello!
07:42.11KuliXhi evryanz
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08:06.28Eagleofnorthevryanz, hi!
08:06.39EagleofnorthKuliX, good morning!
08:07.09KuliXgood morning, Eagleofnorth
08:07.40Eagleofnorthanother day, another dollar....
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08:13.52evryanzplop everyone ^^
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09:45.29AlexAnteMachinahi all
09:45.37evryanzplop AlexAnteMachina
09:45.39KuliXmoin AlexAnteMachina
09:46.42AlexAnteMachinacoffeeeeee!
09:47.36evryanz\o/
09:47.38KuliXdrückt für den Alex mal auf die saeco
09:47.57AlexAnteMachinadanke KuliX aber ich hab schon
09:48.36KuliXdann drink ich ihn eben selber
09:48.58AlexAnteMachinahab grad nen halben liter kaffee
09:49.31AlexAnteMachinaevryanz, I guess you'd prefer Tea.
09:49.50evryanzWhy? I love coffee.
09:50.07AlexAnteMachinaoh, in russia tea is VERY common
09:50.23AlexAnteMachinamore than here.
09:50.30AlexAnteMachinabut this is about to change.
09:50.51AlexAnteMachinayounger people here found tea can be nice too.
09:51.01evryanzYeah, I love tea too
09:51.11evryanzBut I mean it's not enough to wake me up
09:51.21AlexAnteMachinatrue
10:15.30AlexAnteMachinaahm... I've read the license site and still dont know what licence elive is under.
10:15.52evryanzCreative Commons
10:16.01AlexAnteMachinathat's what I thought, too.
10:16.17AlexAnteMachinabut there is nothing CC related on that site anymore!
10:16.18evryanzCC-BY-NC-SA
10:16.24AlexAnteMachinahttp://www.elivecd.org/Help/License
10:16.36AlexAnteMachinawhat?
10:17.05evryanzYeah, it was that on this page before
10:17.07AlexAnteMachinaActually I'm reviewing the wikipedia article
10:17.23evryanzI'm translating the homepage into french, for my mirror ^^
10:17.31AlexAnteMachinaand for wikipedia it's important to know what license is used.
10:17.44evryanzapt, seen Thanatermesis
10:17.46aptthanatermesis <~unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 26d 12h 2m 21s ago, saying: 'MrSandman, have you see this email ?'.
10:17.49AlexAnteMachinanice!
10:18.02evryanzAbout a month! :-s
10:18.44AlexAnteMachinajep.
10:18.44AlexAnteMachinabut he's "at home"#
10:18.44AlexAnteMachinajust released a new version of eliveinstaller-4g
10:18.46evryanzI'm waiting for him to edit some parameters for the mirror
10:18.53AlexAnteMachinaso he's still monitoring
10:19.05evryanzThe problem if I send him a mail he will answer in a month...
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10:26.56AlexAnteMachinawell,... so I'll correct it as far as I can.
10:27.13AlexAnteMachinathis is a hoax.... telling Topaz is 3.0.
10:27.30evryanz:-s
10:28.45AlexAnteMachinayep.
10:28.57AlexAnteMachinalots of wrong information
10:29.05AlexAnteMachinaand really really bad grammar
10:42.13AlexAnteMachinaaaaargh....
10:42.24AlexAnteMachinathis is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid
10:42.35evryanz:(
10:42.50AlexAnteMachinalooks this is toooo stupid to be corrected.
10:42.58evryanzHere is the beginning for me: http://evryanz.net/pluxml/?static1/a-propos
10:43.04AlexAnteMachinarewriting is done quicker
10:43.29AlexAnteMachinaas an example "Elpanel is written in edje"
10:43.30evryanzThe french page should be rewrited too
10:43.36evryanzOuch
10:43.44AlexAnteMachinaedje is just a library
10:44.08AlexAnteMachinaand i bet elpanel was written in C
10:44.20AlexAnteMachinacaus thana loves C
10:44.41evryanzAnyways when you're done I'll maybe translate the Wikipedia page into french too
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10:54.38Elive_user48_enПривет
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11:26.28AlexAnteMachinaevryanz, ??
11:26.45AlexAnteMachinawhy do you want to wait untill i'm finished?
11:27.02AlexAnteMachinaI'm working on the german version
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11:54.51evryanzAh!
11:55.29evryanzI through it was the english one
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12:15.27AlexAnteMachinano, evryanz my english isnt good enough for writing such an article.
12:18.14evryanz'kay
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14:19.45DammitJimwhat do I have to do to take advantage of all my 4GB of RAM on Topaz?
14:20.21lemensopen up adobe and use one of the filters extensively
14:21.18lemensLet me know when you start swapping ;)
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14:21.56lemensDammitJim, does it show you only 2 or what is your problem?
14:23.00DammitJimit only shows 3623060
14:23.43elmo40then is it fine
14:23.48elmo40your chips may be cheap.
14:23.55elmo40or some used for something else...
14:23.59DammitJimlol
14:24.03elmo40it will never display all 4gb
14:24.05lemensyou should be able to donate the rest of the ram to elive
14:24.12elmo40or me!
14:24.13DammitJimI have!
14:24.56lemensDammitJim, Why do you need so much any way? Tell you what, take 2gb out and send it to elmo40 and your computer will run way faster.
14:26.01lemensDammitJim, you see, you will grately reduce the load by not having it generate that weird number(3623060) everytime you are unsure of your ram.
14:26.13lemens;)
14:27.27DammitJimit is rather strange that you guys even have computers for easy tasks as the ones you do
14:28.06DammitJimI have virtualbox opened, 4 instances of Chrome, 4 instances of Firefox, Eclipse and Netbeans running at the same time
14:28.28DammitJimwas just wondering if it was detecting it all correctly
14:28.46DammitJimThana mentioned once something about Nurse Mode, but haven't found anything about RAM and such in Nurse Mode
14:28.54DammitJimbut maybe that was only on the dev version
14:31.24lemensDammitJim, you do realize that you will eventually want MORE RAM. For instance you will want to run 5 instances of chrome and 6 and a half instances of firefox. You will also realize that Eclipse and Netbeans need their own X session for you to truely be efficient.
14:31.35DammitJimyou got it!
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14:40.16elmo40lemens: I already have 4gb
14:40.25elmo40and unless it is DDR3 I can't use it ;)
14:41.24elmo40DammitJim: I think in Nurse Mode you can install the 4+ Gb RAM kernel
14:42.26lemenselmo40, and yours shows you 4gb?
14:42.42elmo40not in elive on this machine. can't tell ya for sure
14:42.57elmo40but in 'doze it doesn't display anything like that (in 32-bit mode)
14:43.10elmo40about to wipe this Tb drive and install 64-bit win7.
14:43.18elmo40the other Tb drive has Elive on it
14:43.24elmo40and Sidux 64-bit
14:43.41elmo40with Sidux I see 41xxxxx amount of RAM
14:44.00elmo40but, I borked that system... silly libstdc something or other :/
14:47.21lemensDammitJim, elmo40 sees his ram alright, you must have bought korean ram. I think customs sands some of the memory off before they import it.
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15:56.31Elive_user83_ruhi all
15:56.38AlexAnteMachinahi
15:57.07Elive_user83_ruwow, it is alive ^)
15:57.15Elive_user83_rui mean - channel
15:58.36evryanzAh, sure
16:00.32AlexAnteMachinaso Elive_user83_ru what's up?
16:01.23Elive_user83_ruas my nick shows - just boot up livecd, testing all that stuff
16:01.46AlexAnteMachinaand it also shows us you are from russia
16:01.47AlexAnteMachina:)
16:01.47Elive_user83_rui am greatly surprised - good e17 and perf
16:01.56AlexAnteMachinaperf?
16:02.02Elive_user83_ruperformance
16:02.06AlexAnteMachinai know e17, but never heard of perf.
16:02.09AlexAnteMachinaoh!
16:02.10AlexAnteMachinaokay.
16:02.12Elive_user83_ruyes, Russia, Kazan
16:02.40AlexAnteMachinathere used to be several users from russia
16:02.41Elive_user83_rubtw how does Elive detect locale at boot time?
16:02.55AlexAnteMachinait wont. you did
16:03.18Elive_user83_rueh? didnt remember i did
16:03.48AlexAnteMachinawhen booting from cd one of the first things you'll see it the language selection screen
16:04.02Elive_user83_ruah :) may be
16:04.32evryanzKeynote in 1 hour :)
16:04.36Elive_user83_ruit was very lazy morning :) and a hot day
16:05.00Elive_user83_ruwhat is keynote?
16:06.02evryanzApple Event, sneak peek of iPhone OS 4 :)
16:07.44Elive_user83_ruhope video capture will be  introduced :)
16:08.25evryanzIt's already in OS 3, but only for the iPhone 3Gs model
16:08.51Elive_user83_ruit costs mad money here, >1000$
16:08.59evryanzHuh?
16:09.10evryanzAbout 300€ here
16:09.17evryanzShould check
16:09.20Elive_user83_ruwith contract you mean?
16:09.33evryanzYeah, sure
16:09.43Elive_user83_rulucky guys
16:10.00evryanzAnd about 600€ without
16:10.06evryanzOr 500
16:10.10evryanzI don't remember
16:10.29AlexAnteMachinaElive_user83_ru, you could get one. Why not simply ordering one?
16:11.52Elive_user83_ruwe were just able to buy 3G for 300$ right before 3Gs came out, kind a "sale!!! before new one is here"
16:12.23evryanz3G is 99€ with contract here
16:14.25Elive_user83_ru"order" - you mean buy from some shop abroad with delivery?
16:15.35AlexAnteMachinayes, Elive_user83_ru exactly
16:19.22Elive_user83_ruhm, not sure if this possible, if they sell it with contract - then definitely won't sell to Russia, here is no AT&T or whatever
16:20.07AlexAnteMachinahow about buying one without contract?
16:21.08Elive_user83_ruonly if i go to US and buy it myself
16:21.21AlexAnteMachinahuh?
16:21.38Elive_user83_rubut my teleport broken for half a year already :-D
16:23.03AlexAnteMachinahttp://tinyurl.com/ya28y3u
16:23.09AlexAnteMachinajust as a hint.
16:23.47AlexAnteMachinaWhy not simply order one?
16:27.00Elive_user83_ruebay is a good chance
16:27.06Elive_user83_ruagree
16:29.19AlexAnteMachinanot ebay.
16:29.31AlexAnteMachinasome online reseller
16:30.38yebyenis elive organization in GSOC?
16:31.00AlexAnteMachinahttp://www.apple.com/ru/
16:31.12AlexAnteMachinayebyen, what?
16:31.17yebyengoogle summer of code
16:31.29yebyeni don't see it anywhere
16:31.30AlexAnteMachinachances are thana goes there
16:31.36AlexAnteMachinait?
16:31.41yebyenthere?
16:31.52yebyeni don't think it involves a conference
16:31.59AlexAnteMachinahuh?
16:32.06yebyenit's mentoring organizations sign up to coach students through a project and $5000
16:32.34yebyenif not, i would love to do mentor role for elive next year :D
16:38.46yebyenhave to learn efl first
16:38.47yebyenlol
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16:40.01AlexAnteMachinahi laurence
16:40.20laurenceHi AlexAnteMachina
16:41.25laurenceI had some trouble with the printers. For HP it is necessary install the drivers privided by hplip in the HP Site.
16:41.53laurenceMany printers have no support in Elive, and it requires a lot of work
16:42.32AlexAnteMachinahumm... i got an epson stylus c86. Its supported by default.
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16:44.48laurenceFor HP printers I download hplip-3,10.2.run and executed it by sh /.hplip... etc but doesn't install the drivers as other distros, this makes a folder with the ppd's at the Desktop, then we install the printer selecting the corresponding ppd. An new user will not do that, so, he or she will not print !
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16:45.21laurenceIes, some old epson are supported, like my Epson Stylus 670
16:45.37laurenceBut many people have new ones
16:46.05laurenceThey must have installed Ubuntu or Windows in other partition to print
16:47.04laurencePrinting is a essential job with a computer, the developers must pay attention to this
16:47.50laurencePrinting and connecting to the internet by all methods available. Elive does not connect by 3g modems, this is very bad
16:48.18laurenceWell, I must go away... arrivederchi
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16:55.30AlexAnteMachinahi Piper
16:57.52PiperForgot to dissable the autocennect here when I configured xChat :)
17:01.15Wizard:)
17:01.29Wizardautoconnect and autoayth and autojoin++
17:02.51PiperDidn't setup an authoauth :)
17:03.03PiperWhich is nice, as I'm not sending my operpass to the server atleast :)
17:03.36Wizardsome channels require to be logged in to join
17:04.00Wizardok, time to click-click small word quiz application :0
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18:50.32smoke_czhi
18:52.29smoke_czelive is disappointing, constantly restarts enlightment - is unstable
18:52.57smoke_czI expected better stability
18:53.19evryanzStrange
18:53.27evryanzMaybe some conflicts with your hardware
18:53.33evryanzTry to boot in nurse mode
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18:54.30smoke_czok, i try
18:55.24AlexAnteMachinahi smoke_cz !
18:55.40smoke_czAlexAnteMachina: hi
18:57.22smoke_czreboot - nurse mode
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19:33.33twiggaelive good on a eeepc 1005hab ?
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19:35.19smoke_czwe'll see if that helps.
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21:34.33Elive_user22_encodigos para elive please
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23:14.06*** topic/#elive is Elive 2.0 is released ! non-cost installer-modules: http://www.elivecd.org/codes || Collaborate: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate || Want to develop in EFL ? http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoEFL
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