IRC log for #elive on 20100521

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02:29.18Elive_user4hi
02:31.25Elive_user4i need some help with elive
02:32.09Elive_user4hola necesito ayuda con elive
02:32.23keyraElive_user4: que tal ?
02:33.01Elive_user4hola keyra alguna vez escribes una frase despues de que tal?
02:33.15keyraElive_user4: hola
02:34.59Elive_user4lo siento pero siempre que entro al chat dices que tal y nada mas pense que eras un "botchat¨
02:35.14gwildorkeys is a bot
02:35.27gwildortry asking in english, maybe i can help
02:35.35Elive_user4sorry
02:35.46gwildorwell, maybe i should learn spanish :P
02:36.16gwildorElive_user4, i can translate if your spanish is better....
02:36.18Elive_user4i am tryng elive in a toshiba 700 mhz
02:36.51Elive_user4i have the 1.9.61
02:37.38Elive_user4i have 128 mb ram and 1.012 mb swap
02:37.53keyraElive_user4: to use 8 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
02:38.58gwildorElive_user4, it should run...turn off some plugins.
02:39.09Elive_user4i chat with tanatermesis and can not help me with the video driver
02:39.31Elive_user4because savage dont have support on linux
02:40.17Elive_user4so itry with puppy and i find a pakage with new drivers
02:41.05Elive_user4and i have 3d acceleration with that so i back in elive
02:41.29Elive_user4because is a irresistible distribution
02:41.49gwildortoshiba tecra?  
02:42.08gwildorblue and grey?...kind of 'rubber' on 1/2 the lid?
02:42.08Elive_user4no satellite 2805's301
02:42.17Elive_user4yes
02:42.25gwildorahh, i have 700mhz tecra....256mb ram....savage....
02:42.33gwildornever get 3d workingg......2d was perfect.
02:42.35Elive_user4sorry man
02:42.48Elive_user4we are in the same boat
02:42.58gwildorwell, never cared for 3d, either.
02:43.12gwildori dont use compiz or anything...
02:43.15Elive_user4sorry i dont understand care
02:43.27keyragwildor: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
02:43.29Elive_user4cared sorry
02:43.48Elive_user4dont run
02:43.49gwildoroh, i never....wanted 3d.
02:44.19Elive_user4i can not run ecomorph
02:44.33keyraElive_user4: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
02:44.51gwildorcare - to be concerned or solicitous; have thought or regard.
02:44.59Elive_user4ande i can not see the mask of mplayer i see all black
02:45.19gwildorElive_user4, i never wanted to run ecomorph, so i never try for 3d.
02:45.27gwildoroh, maybe have to cchange some mplayer settings.
02:45.57Elive_user4i just do this trying to see mplayer mask
02:46.22Elive_user4and i think with 3d can do it
02:46.49gwildorwell, try to go to mplayer setting, change... 'hardware' or 'render' or 'video' options
02:47.29gwildori have to go, GL
02:49.01Elive_user4ok i go do it
02:54.56Elive_user4tell me gwildor you can use mplayer?
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03:39.38xircxwtf
03:39.47xircxwhy do i have to pay for elinux?
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04:59.04Elive_user50_eshola alguna habla español
04:59.19keyraElive_user50_es: que tal ?
05:00.05Elive_user50_esmuy bien y usted
05:01.58Elive_user50_espuedo hacerle una consulta sobre elive topaz v2 no lo conosco pero me gusta su desempeño
05:03.03Elive_user50_esperdon solo estaba probando esta version gracias,
05:03.15Elive_user50_eshasta luego
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07:27.54mtrakerhi
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09:47.06kaz2057ehi guy, are there news about 64 bit version? :(
09:47.21keyrakaz2057: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
09:48.44kaz2057is there a way to run 64bit apps on 32bit os?
09:49.01kaz2057aboveall on elive distro :P
09:49.25evryanzkaz2057: You have a 64 app which has no 32 version ?
09:50.05kaz2057yes
09:50.11evryanzWhat's that ?
09:50.12kaz2057a lot of autodesk softwares
09:50.28kaz2057first of all autodesk maya
09:50.35evryanzMmh... I heard it was possible but I don't know how exactly
09:51.31kaz2057take me update if you have a "guide" :P
09:55.24kaz2057however i hope in 64bit versione of elive in the future
09:55.38keyrakaz2057: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
09:56.20kaz2057i hate bots :D
09:57.44evryanzurges keyra to eat a cyanide sandwich
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12:35.45AlexAnteMachinahi all
12:46.29DammitJimgood morning
12:46.34DammitJimoh man, I have fallen in sin
12:47.59AlexAnteMachinaDammitJim, sup?
12:48.03AlexAnteMachinaUsing win?
12:48.06AlexAnteMachinaor mac?
12:48.22DammitJimubuntu
12:48.27DammitJimand e17
12:48.37AlexAnteMachinacant see any sin
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12:49.12DammitJimit's not elive!
12:49.22DammitJimI am going to have to ask Thana for forgiveness
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12:49.33mermouyhi all!
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14:38.14Elive_user50_enanyone know a room for help with dns issues?
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15:22.07AlexAnteMachinahey apt
15:22.19AlexAnteMachinalol... hey get
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15:48.01AlexAnteMachinahi elmo40
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15:49.22wasynytgood afternoon people
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15:49.52AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt
15:50.18wasynythow are you doing AlexAnteMachina
15:50.34AlexAnteMachinawasynyt, have you ever tried linpus?
15:51.47wasynytlinpus? the os on acer linux machines?
15:52.03wasynytdoesnt like those borked old distros
15:52.40AlexAnteMachinawell, I've had a look at the lite version
15:52.51AlexAnteMachinaits very simple
15:52.55wasynytis it any good?
15:53.22AlexAnteMachinait wont support my wifi card
15:53.33wasynytwhat kind of simple? usefull or unusable
15:53.46AlexAnteMachinawell, that depends.
15:53.51wasynytwell that is because the kernel is most likely very old
15:53.52AlexAnteMachinai like its gui
15:54.12AlexAnteMachinaits very much for noobs.
15:54.36AlexAnteMachinabut since there are lots of, this isnt a con.
15:54.46wasynytyeah
15:54.52AlexAnteMachinaits just not for me
15:55.21AlexAnteMachinabut i find it interesting for using it for a noob proof computer system.
15:55.54wasynytcould it stand that challenge?
15:56.10AlexAnteMachinaand I've read about linpus QuickOS. But cant find any dl. Just a OEM contact.
15:56.45wasynyti guess linpus mainly targets oems
15:57.07AlexAnteMachinaI've also read it's supporting lots of languages, but the live-version just supports chinese, simplified chinese and english.
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15:57.22keyraAlexAnteMachina: Elive in chinese ? Well... this is a howto for japanese http://www.tinyogre.com/linux/elive.shtml
15:57.34AlexAnteMachinaI got a feeling linpus isnt real linux.
15:57.57wasynytgood afternoon DammitJim
15:58.01wasynytAlexAnteMachina, why?
15:58.03DammitJimhey wasynyt
15:58.10DammitJimwasynyt, what do you use for a linux distro?
15:58.11wasynythow are you doing
15:58.11DammitJimelive?
15:58.42AlexAnteMachinaaiming only at OEMs isnt very friendly, I think. This isnt linux-like.
15:58.47wasynytfedora 12 lxde, opensuse 11.2 kde4.4, debian lenny
15:59.02DammitJimwasynyt, do you run e17 as your window manager?
15:59.07wasynytaiming oems is very good for linux ecosystem
15:59.22wasynytoems dont want to maintain operaiting systems
15:59.29AlexAnteMachinasure.
15:59.29wasynytDammitJim, nope
15:59.34DammitJimlol
15:59.50AlexAnteMachinabut making an *.iso available for everybody would be nice.
16:00.00wasynyt*gnome with debian
16:00.01wasynytAlexAnteMachina, i agree
16:00.51AlexAnteMachinaI've emailed them.
16:00.53AlexAnteMachina:)
16:01.00wasynyt:D
16:01.17AlexAnteMachinaso we'll see how friendly they are.
16:01.58wasynytyeah
16:02.46wasynytDammitJim, why are you asking?
16:02.56DammitJimI'm in between
16:03.11DammitJimI feel weird about elive
16:03.57wasynytwhy?
16:04.32AlexAnteMachinacause thana isnt there and does not release upgrades
16:04.50wasynytapt seen thanatermesis
16:04.51aptthanatermesis <~unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 69d 17h 49m 26s ago, saying: 'MrSandman, have you see this email ?'.
16:04.58DammitJimthere are a couple of things broken in the stable release
16:05.05wasynytmmmh
16:05.12DammitJimI guess I'm at fault for bugging him so much for 2.0
16:05.33DammitJimand that's why we got what we got... maybe stable just means it doesn't crash
16:05.40DammitJimeven though many programs don't seem to work properly
16:06.04wasynythmm
16:06.18DammitJimbut at least I have tried other distros
16:06.26DammitJimand I feel that Thana has done an awesome job with Elive
16:06.35DammitJimin terms of making it beautiful
16:06.36wasynytyeah
16:06.51DammitJimI love how things are small (not much wasted space on huge window borders
16:07.09DammitJimbut some applications just leave too much to desire
16:07.34wasynytwhich applications
16:07.37DammitJimsorry... I am just venting
16:07.55DammitJimI put in a bug report for not being able to copy CDs with brasero
16:07.59DammitJimmaybe it's just me
16:08.07DammitJimbut I have tried it on 2 different Dell laptops
16:08.07AlexAnteMachinano, same here, DammitJim
16:08.09keyraDammitJim: http://bugs.elivecd.org
16:08.19DammitJimmaybe there is something common with the drivers or something
16:08.34DammitJimbut I hate to have to tell my wife that I have to use windows because I can't make a copy of a CD
16:08.46wasynytheh
16:08.47DammitJimya know what I mean? Elive is what I use every day
16:08.48AlexAnteMachinause k3b!
16:08.48keyraDammitJim: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems
16:08.57DammitJimI know keyra... shut up and kiss me
16:09.06DammitJimAlexAnteMachina, I installed k3b, but it also failed
16:09.11keyraDammitJim: :-#
16:09.12wasynytdoes burning work from command line
16:09.13AlexAnteMachinao_O
16:09.16AlexAnteMachinaweird.
16:09.22DammitJimdid it work for you, AlexAnteMachina ?
16:09.25AlexAnteMachinayes.
16:09.39wasynytor can you do it as root
16:10.59DammitJimwasynyt, what program as root?
16:11.01DammitJimI mean, I can burn CDs
16:11.04DammitJimjust can't copy them
16:11.30wasynytwhat are you trying to copy
16:11.50DammitJimjust a music CD of my daughter's songs
16:11.56DammitJimI mean, I got it done in windows already
16:12.02DammitJimbut it's the fact that it doesn't work
16:13.21wasynythmm you should be able to make it to a iso and then to another cd
16:13.45DammitJimI made an iso image or an nrg image
16:13.48DammitJimbut it still doesn't let me
16:13.54DammitJimit's weird... something is totally borked
16:13.58wasynytcan you burn another iso
16:16.10DammitJimI di
16:16.18DammitJimholy crap, I just had fun playing pacman on google.com
16:17.08wasynytheh
16:18.11DammitJimfun!
16:18.32DammitJimsweet!
16:21.51DammitJimhey, do you guys have another key?
16:21.56DammitJimI am now officially out
16:22.11DammitJimThana was nice enough to give me 3, but I have installed it in 3 different machines just to test it
16:22.21DammitJimand now I got a new hard drive and it's asking me for a key
16:22.26DammitJimok, bbl
16:41.55AlexAnteMachinawasynyt, I'd really like to know why thana isnt releasing upgrades
16:50.34wasynytdont ask me
16:53.23wasynytonly one who knows the answer for that is thana
16:53.26wasynyt:/
16:54.25AlexAnteMachinajust checked the linpus liveCD's default repos...
16:54.28AlexAnteMachinaguess what...
16:54.52AlexAnteMachinathere is no entry!
16:55.10wasynytheh
16:55.21AlexAnteMachinano shit!
16:55.55wasynytwell they might have made that folder for just to be sure
16:56.10keyrawasynyt: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
17:01.50AlexAnteMachinauh... web-storage is some microsoft web-service and default mail is googel-mail.
17:01.54AlexAnteMachinanot that nice.
17:02.20wasynytsounds pretty basic setup
17:03.57AlexAnteMachinau honestly think so?
17:05.33AlexAnteMachinagoogle crawls your email
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18:13.02AlexAnteMachinawasynyt, do you know what driver to choose for using a ralink wifi-card?
18:14.27wasynytthere are multiple ralink chipsets
18:15.11wasynytbut as for any other wireless you need the correct firmware
18:15.57AlexAnteMachinafirmware?
18:16.12AlexAnteMachinaits just a usb-device
18:16.21wasynytfor wireless chipsets you need two things
18:16.22wasynytdriver and firmware
18:16.46wasynytsome of them dont contain the firmware themselves..
18:17.17AlexAnteMachinait works fine with backtrack
18:17.26AlexAnteMachinaso i assume it should with every linux
18:17.59wasynytok
18:19.15AlexAnteMachinaand net-connector offers several drivers. But no ralink driver.
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18:19.43wasynytare you sure it is ralink based (i guess yes)
18:19.47wasynytdo you have ralink stuff installed
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18:22.14wasynytbe right back -> reboot
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18:28.31wasynytis back
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19:32.45mathesis@seen thanatermesis
19:32.50mathesis!seen thanatermesis
19:45.44wasynytapt, sen thanatermesis
19:45.55wasynytapt, seen thanatermesis
19:45.57aptthanatermesis <~unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 69d 21h 30m 32s ago, saying: 'MrSandman, have you see this email ?'.
19:48.44wasynytthere you go mathesis
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20:47.59AlexAnteMachinahi PrinceAMD
20:48.15PrinceAMDhi AlexAnteMachina
20:48.18PrinceAMDwazzz up
20:48.33AlexAnteMachinanot much.
20:48.57AlexAnteMachinajust wondering y thana isnt releaseing upgrades.
20:50.04PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, he has not emailed me in some time too, idk whats up with him
20:50.13PrinceAMDmaybe he is working on something spicy
20:50.33PrinceAMDwhen he leaves it's normally to focus on one of his to-do in his list
20:50.37AlexAnteMachinafinished all translations. now waiting for thana to wrap em into the packages.
20:50.52PrinceAMDwow nice job :)
20:52.21AlexAnteMachinaLinuxNIT, what's the best driver for ralink devices?
20:52.58AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, I've also worked some on my website about elive.
20:53.18PrinceAMDcan i see
20:53.43AlexAnteMachinaits completely in german.
20:53.56PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, has LinuxNIT been around often
20:53.57AlexAnteMachinaso i dont know wether its any helpful to you
20:54.02PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, no problem i can read it
20:54.05AlexAnteMachinak
20:54.10AlexAnteMachinaelive-cd.de
20:54.56PrinceAMDWelcome to my private and unofficial Elive homepage! hehe
20:55.13AlexAnteMachinau do understand it!?!?
20:55.21PrinceAMDyep
20:55.26AlexAnteMachinao_O
20:56.38PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, i use google chromium latest build, it automatically translate any website that's not in english for me :D
20:56.48AlexAnteMachinayesterday i've added the i-net connection section.
20:56.54AlexAnteMachinalol
20:57.55PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, how do i get ur site hosted on google u have to pay?
20:58.07AlexAnteMachinano its free
20:58.14PrinceAMDWTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:58.29PrinceAMDwhere do i go to sign up
20:58.35AlexAnteMachinagoogle-sites is completely free!
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20:58.50AlexAnteMachinayou will need a google-account.
20:58.54AlexAnteMachinathats all
20:58.59PrinceAMDok
21:01.02DammitJimhey PrinceAMD
21:01.10PrinceAMDhey DammitJim wazzzz up
21:02.19DammitJimare you still running an AMD?
21:02.20DammitJimlol
21:02.33DammitJimI wanna rock!
21:02.36PrinceAMDDammitJim, no i have now a intel i7 980x
21:02.44DammitJimwith WiMax?
21:02.50PrinceAMDno wimax
21:03.08AlexAnteMachinai7... nice
21:03.24AlexAnteMachinadid you sell you left arm to get one?
21:03.30PrinceAMDhahaha
21:03.54AlexAnteMachinawasnt kidding
21:04.04PrinceAMDi am kidding i still have my phenom
21:04.11PrinceAMDthat processor is 1000us
21:04.21PrinceAMDDammitJim, what u running intel celeron?
21:05.27DammitJimsomething likethat :)
21:05.33DammitJimjust an Intel Centrino
21:05.36PrinceAMDur shitting me
21:05.39PrinceAMDoh oh
21:05.43DammitJimCore 2 Duo
21:05.49PrinceAMD<PROTECTED>
21:05.49DammitJim@ home I have a centrino :)
21:05.54DammitJimno, I don't... it's an AMD!
21:06.06PrinceAMDlol
21:06.17PrinceAMDi am getting my self an intel atom
21:06.35DammitJimmy wife has an atom
21:07.14PrinceAMDsweet
21:07.24PrinceAMDmy gf currently got an althon
21:07.25PrinceAMDhaha
21:07.26AlexAnteMachinalol.... I'm using an old P4 2.4
21:07.45PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, one day u will get all the specs in the world just wait n see
21:08.18AlexAnteMachina??
21:08.22DammitJimElive runs on anything
21:08.32DammitJimeven with re-used peanut oil
21:08.39PrinceAMDa few years back i wanted a super pc now i got it, it's not what i expected
21:08.54AlexAnteMachinalol  true
21:09.05PrinceAMDfaster the pc, the more i have to pay to use it :(
21:09.25DammitJimyup
21:09.27AlexAnteMachinaI'm always using used hardware.
21:09.28DammitJimand it's not worth it
21:09.33DammitJimunless you have a piece of crap dell like mine
21:09.42DammitJimwhere the motherboard overheats
21:09.59AlexAnteMachinaDammitJim, use it as a cup-warmer
21:10.09DammitJimcoffee stays warm for sure
21:10.20DammitJimthe problem is that it starts doing that around 11am... that's too late for coffee for me
21:10.30PrinceAMDlol
21:10.40AlexAnteMachinajust change its system clock
21:10.42AlexAnteMachina;)
21:11.00DammitJimtalking about system clock
21:11.10DammitJimdo you guys have your clocks sync'd to ntp server?
21:11.18AlexAnteMachinayeü
21:11.20AlexAnteMachinalol
21:11.22AlexAnteMachinayes
21:11.22PrinceAMDbut since i got this quad core, i tried moving back to dual core, but it's just a bit slow for me,
21:11.24PrinceAMDyes
21:11.50DammitJimdid someone say spoiled?
21:13.23AlexAnteMachinagood nite all
21:13.41DammitJimsee ya\
21:16.48PrinceAMDDammitJim, brb i have to go mess with hal abit
21:17.27DammitJimI'm leaving, too
21:17.28DammitJimsee ya'll
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21:26.50she_dyedalmost ready to get that magic combination to get ecomorph working in topaz
21:27.03DammitJimshe_dyed, are you for real?
21:27.04keyrashe_dyed: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
21:27.18DammitJimis it still crashing on you?
21:27.29DammitJimI should have stayed with unstable .64
21:27.33she_dyedno more like picking the right driver
21:27.35DammitJimI think it was working great for me then
21:27.44DammitJimdriver ... like nvidia-driver?
21:27.52she_dyedyes i think legacy
21:28.05DammitJimoh wow
21:28.20she_dyednot crashing, just freezing at the very last step,
21:28.25she_dyedi see the desktop its ready
21:28.34she_dyedbut no response from any input after that
21:28.46she_dyedalmost like whatever last step it does causes it to hang
21:29.07DammitJimlast step of what?
21:29.35she_dyedof initialization
21:29.40she_dyedof gui desktop
21:29.48she_dyedi dont know what it does internally
21:30.19DammitJimoh
21:30.20DammitJimalright
21:30.22DammitJimI got my stuff done
21:30.23DammitJimsee ya
21:30.24she_dyedso what i do is
21:30.26she_dyedok
21:30.28she_dyedcya
21:30.32DammitJimsorry to leave like this
21:30.35DammitJimyou sound excited
21:30.36DammitJimgood luck!
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22:07.48tejotadoes anybody seen the main google page today?
22:07.49tejotalol
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22:22.03spazvilleIf you wait there for 5 minutes it starts music
22:22.13spazvillescared the hell out of me this morning
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