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04:26.41subj3ct::Looks around:: any1 here?
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08:36.16AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, ping
08:38.01PrinceAMDhey AlexAnteMachina
08:38.08PrinceAMDgood morning?
08:38.18AlexAnteMachinagood morning!
08:38.42PrinceAMDwhat's up?
08:39.26AlexAnteMachinajust want to say hi!
08:39.28AlexAnteMachina:)
08:39.35PrinceAMDkool
08:40.16PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, well i'll be here for some good time. gf is making sure i dont sleep untill this afternoon/tonight, it's 4:40 here
08:40.32PrinceAMDno one likes the fact that i sleep in the day :(
08:43.10AlexAnteMachinalol... sounds like u r a vampire.
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08:47.21AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, did you have any Contact to Thana these days?
08:47.33PrinceAMDtejota, nop
08:47.36PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, nope
08:47.49AlexAnteMachinaNObody knows where he's gone to.
08:48.03PrinceAMD:/
08:48.11PrinceAMDi'll send him n email
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08:48.17AlexAnteMachinaeven Pacma does not know where he is. And both living in the same City.
08:48.35AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, I've sent some emails. No response.
08:51.06PrinceAMDi've just sent a mail
08:51.14PrinceAMDhope he reply
08:51.18PrinceAMDi hope he's ok
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08:59.15PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, just installed new bios for my mainboard
08:59.51AlexAnteMachinay?
09:00.14PrinceAMDnow it supports 6 core processor, which is like 200us :D
09:00.28AlexAnteMachinawhat?
09:00.45AlexAnteMachinaa CPU containing SIX  cores????
09:00.51PrinceAMDyes
09:00.55AlexAnteMachinao_O
09:00.59PrinceAMDjust a few out
09:01.01AlexAnteMachinaweird
09:01.05PrinceAMDwell 3 exactly
09:01.11PrinceAMDSEX cores :)
09:01.22AlexAnteMachina?
09:01.30PrinceAMDlol SIX
09:02.10PrinceAMDi'm lookin into replacing this quad core for a hexa-core with 95watts, this one is 125watts, too much powa
09:03.32AlexAnteMachinak
09:03.57AlexAnteMachinai bet those a freaking fast.
09:04.19PrinceAMDyep
09:04.30PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, what new e17 stuff u got?
09:04.40AlexAnteMachinahuh?
09:05.02AlexAnteMachinanew e17 stuff?
09:05.14PrinceAMDtheme/icons/wallpapers/code??
09:05.28keyraPrinceAMD: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
09:05.46AlexAnteMachinadont know what you talk about.
09:05.53PrinceAMD:(
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09:06.09PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, e17 theme, do you have any new ones?
09:06.23AlexAnteMachinadont know.
09:06.27PrinceAMDwill download rosetta stone and learn german
09:07.15PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, do you use a module name "everything"?
09:07.29AlexAnteMachinawhat?
09:09.20AlexAnteMachinadont know what u r talking about
09:10.55PrinceAMD:/
09:11.01PrinceAMDlet me take screenshot
09:20.07PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8058/evryy.jpg [the module on the right] with apps inside
09:21.38AlexAnteMachinadunno what that is.
09:22.02AlexAnteMachinalooks like a window with buttons.
09:22.08AlexAnteMachinaso what makes it special?
09:25.06PrinceAMDwell it's name is "everything"
09:25.20PrinceAMDit's pretty cool u can do almost everything inside it
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09:25.59PrinceAMDit has calc, pidgin support, window management, application launcher, and a mini file manager , even google search/ wikipedia too
09:27.30AlexAnteMachinaI can only see a "Run Everything" module atm.
09:29.28AlexAnteMachinaapt-cache search doesnt show me a "Everything" module
09:32.44AlexAnteMachinawhere die you get that module?
09:38.24AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, where did you get that module?
09:48.37PrinceAMDit's the "Run Everything" module but maybe your dont have all the feature seeing thana is not in to update
09:48.45PrinceAMDLinuxNIT, wake up
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09:53.44AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, yes. Thana hasnt released any upgrades since 2.0!
09:57.52PrinceAMD:(
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09:58.15AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, what os r u using?
10:00.23PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, arch linux 64bit
10:00.37keyraPrinceAMD: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
10:00.43AlexAnteMachinahumm... never used arch
10:03.52AlexAnteMachinaPrinceAMD, does arch have any special benfits?
10:04.57PrinceAMDAlexAnteMachina, just 1 basically, u do everything urself, it does not come with X installed so u have to install / configure everything
10:05.26PrinceAMDand the main reason all packages is the latest, latest latest [sometimes unstable]
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10:27.18Elive_user6_enhi
10:27.22AlexAnteMachinaho
10:27.35Elive_user6_enhi
10:27.39vinemanPrinceAMD - why arch over gentoo?
10:28.00Elive_user6_en?
10:28.24AlexAnteMachinafolks... i need to go
10:28.31Elive_user6_enbye
10:29.04PrinceAMDvineman, gentoo is pain in ass to install the last time i tried i think 2006?
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10:29.44jizhows elive doing these days?
10:29.57PrinceAMDjiz, pretty good, 2.0 is out
10:30.19vinemanPrinceAMD -  I tried it once and did't get far - also about 2006
10:30.34PrinceAMDyeh
10:31.12vinemanSo arch is about latest packages??
10:31.24vinemanHow stable?
10:31.45jizPrinceAMD: yeah, i just saw that last night
10:31.58jizvineman: arch linux?
10:33.01vinemanPrinceAmd - yeah Arch.  I like to be current with ubuntu on my grunt machine, but  I always have problems with kontact and my kolab server
10:33.16keyravineman: all the problems started when a cosmonaut got the wonderful idea of distribute cd's worldwide
10:33.51PrinceAMDa kde
10:33.54PrinceAMDdont use kde hehe
10:34.06PrinceAMDgf likes it though
10:34.14PrinceAMDbut now she uses openbox
10:34.29PrinceAMDgraphics = waiting = KDE :)
10:34.36jizarch linux is a great distro
10:34.43vinemanI'd rather not, but I'll choose kontact over lookout anytime!
10:35.05vinemanneed enterprise calendaring
10:35.33PrinceAMDok
10:36.05vinemanLaptop runs topaz, I use it everyday.  
10:37.18vinemanActually  I boot it everyday, rather than use the running kubuntu
10:37.34PrinceAMDnice :)
10:37.50PrinceAMDmy server is runnin fedora 12, this pc has arch 64
10:38.21vinemanI've always run debian on servers and vm's
10:39.08vinemanFound ubuntu/kubuntu good for noobs with good hardware
10:39.27vinemankeep coming back to elive - :-)
10:40.19vinemanbut firebird & lightning is not good enough for kolab
10:40.35vinemanmake that thunderbird & lightning
10:41.39vinemanLinux needs a good outlook like client - kontact / kolab is close, but too heavy
10:42.09vinemanwhat do you use as outlook replacement?
10:42.57PrinceAMDah, thunderbird
10:42.58getthunderbird
10:42.59getxD
10:43.00getme too
10:43.07PrinceAMDnever used outlook in de first place
10:43.09get+ sunbird
10:43.17getfor calendar
10:43.18getxD
10:43.18PrinceAMDsunbird too
10:43.19PrinceAMDuep
10:43.20PrinceAMDlol
10:43.23PrinceAMDget!!!
10:43.37getyay! it's me!
10:43.39PrinceAMDwhat do u use as browser?
10:43.44getFF
10:43.47getof course
10:43.56getthe whole mozilla suite
10:43.56getxD
10:44.20PrinceAMDchromium :D
10:44.31PrinceAMDgoogle dude google,
10:44.45gethttp://imagebin.ca/view/JpR3x8r.html
10:44.49getnope
10:45.06getgoogle is the wolf in sheepform
10:45.06getxD
10:45.21PrinceAMDlol
10:45.43getthats my last screen of the distro im workin on
10:45.43getxD
10:45.56PrinceAMDoh god
10:46.01PrinceAMDkde in a screenshot, it's still loading
10:46.08getxDDDD
10:46.24getPrinceAMD, im searching for a good designer
10:46.45geti need some media for the distro, such as wallpapers, buttons and "link us" images
10:46.59keyraget: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
10:47.08getapt pelc to keyra
10:47.09aptACTION gives a Patadita En Los Cojones to keyra.
10:47.09PrinceAMDget http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8058/evryy.jpg
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10:47.44PrinceAMDget http://chakra-project.org/
10:47.45getxD
10:47.55getchakra is arch
10:48.04PrinceAMD:)
10:48.39getisix os is based on slackware
10:48.39vinemanlooks nice - how long till stable?
10:48.43PrinceAMDur kde looks good
10:49.01getand maintains the simple curses dialog instalations way
10:49.03PrinceAMDg dammit i love emesene,
10:49.23PrinceAMDamsn is such a nice memory eater
10:49.39getye
10:50.01PrinceAMDany pidgin ?
10:50.03get;) im still lookin for ppl who wants to contribute
10:50.03getxD
10:50.07getalso in repo
10:50.07getxD
10:50.18PrinceAMDany songbird?
10:50.22geton repo
10:50.35PrinceAMD;/ can i get list of packages in distro?
10:50.41getmmmm
10:50.45gette included ones?
10:50.48getno poblem
10:50.49PrinceAMDyep
10:50.49gethold
10:50.53PrinceAMDkool
10:51.09getthe included on repo are avaiable on slacky.eu / 13.0
10:51.10PrinceAMDn link where i can download the iso, gf will love it hehe
10:51.27getPrinceAMD, feel free to register at the devel.isix-os.org page
10:51.37getthe iso is on Descargas/release
10:52.00PrinceAMDslackware!!!
10:52.38PrinceAMDget ur native lang is spanish, where ya from
10:52.58getyep
10:53.00getit is
10:53.03getPrinceAMD, hold
10:53.10getthe last isix has not the kde 4.4.3
10:53.15DammitJimmorning
10:53.18getmaybe you wait til some days
10:53.31gettil i finish the current one
10:54.06PrinceAMDsure no prob get can u email me the link princeamd@elivecd.org?
10:54.32getfor sure!
10:54.43PrinceAMDthanks buddy
10:54.47PrinceAMDDammitJim, morning
10:55.01getDammitJim, morning also
10:55.24DammitJimwhat's going on, guys?
10:56.32getPrinceAMD, how are oyr gimp skills=?
10:56.36get*your
10:56.48PrinceAMDget it's worst than yours
10:57.29PrinceAMDit's so worst, i dont even have gimp installed WOW
10:57.43keyraPrinceAMD: woooha!
10:58.36getmmm
10:58.55getwho was those one who are skilled in gimp issues here?
10:59.34PrinceAMDroxville
10:59.39getah yes
10:59.46PrinceAMDhe did most of the gimp, but he's no longer here :(
10:59.51get???
10:59.59getbut where and why
11:00.37PrinceAMDwhere, doing some gigs, why busy singin and entertainin family :)
11:00.54getaha
11:01.00getsocial live, so
11:01.01getxD
11:01.24getPrinceAMD, i have also family
11:01.36PrinceAMDget, yeah , that's nice
11:01.36get1 2years old boy
11:01.43PrinceAMDCOOL
11:01.47geta doughter 5month
11:01.57PrinceAMDnice nice nice
11:02.01getsure
11:02.20PrinceAMDi'm just with gf for 3 years, maybe kids in next 7 years or so, i'm still 21
11:02.29gethahaha
11:02.29PrinceAMDget, how old r ya?
11:02.32getim31
11:02.44PrinceAMDcool ur about thana age eh
11:02.48getye
11:03.04getand i live near
11:03.16PrinceAMDso what the hell is going on with him?
11:03.26PrinceAMDhe's not sending email, not online, ?
11:03.27getsocial life, as told before
11:03.33PrinceAMDah
11:03.36gethes somedays on facebook
11:03.43PrinceAMDthat's good, that's good
11:03.50PrinceAMDFACEBOOK???
11:03.53getye!
11:03.59getme too .... ¬ ¬
11:04.40PrinceAMDwhat r u guys fb name?
11:04.50PrinceAMDmy fb email is princeamd.elive@gmail.com
11:05.24jizwhats the default web browser for elive 2.0?
11:05.41PrinceAMDjiz, fox, firefox
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11:29.06jizgooge chrome is a pretty sweet browser
11:30.44DammitJimI love how you can detach tabs
11:32.30vinemandetach tabs came from kde konqeror  i believe - nice
11:32.55vinemannever used chrome
11:48.06DammitJimI don't know why I never liked konqeror to tell you the truth
11:48.09DammitJimnever gave it a chance
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11:53.07roxvillegwildor, ?
11:54.03roxvillehi channel, hope everyone's doing good! :)
11:54.40roxvillegives keyra a hug
11:57.40roxvillegwildor, !!
11:57.42roxvillegwildor, !!
11:57.44roxvillegwildor, !!
11:58.02roxvillekeyra, give gwildor a hug
11:58.21roxville:)
11:58.59roxvilleoh well, i guess he's still sleeping...
11:59.12roxvilleis away: Will You Be My Compiz?
11:59.17roxvilleis afk
12:02.54DammitJimrox?
12:02.56DammitJimroxville, ???
12:02.57DammitJimnoway
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12:11.44vinemankeyra give roxville a big hug and asks you to go into nurse mode to install >4Gb ram
12:11.58keyravineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel
12:12.04DammitJimroxville, ping
12:12.26vinemanOk, proxy !
12:13.43DammitJimhey vineman
12:14.02vinemanHey DammitJim
12:14.09DammitJimhwo goes it?
12:14.17DammitJimdid you do your 4GB upgrade of the kernel?
12:14.25DammitJimI finally got around to doing it last week
12:14.42vinemanNo just kiddin, have only 1 gb in lapto
12:15.23vinemanCan't see it matters
12:15.57vinemanbut sure I can get keyra to comment!!!!
12:16.47vinemanOh yeah, sure
12:16.55vinemanDammitJim, you seem to hang out here a lot
12:17.50vinemanDid you find a difference with mo ram
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12:18.31vinemanI use varicad on kubuntu, but that is the only time  I need more that 1 gb
12:19.07DammitJimlmao
12:19.08DammitJimI finally figured out how to do it... isn't it sad?
12:19.08DammitJimnope
12:20.21vinemanI can't figure out the whole 64 bit thing.  Until 16gb+ is common what is the point?
12:20.36keyravineman: It's not very useful. You won't have big Benefits using a 64 bit-system. On the one Hand the optimization is too minor to be considered. On the other Hand you won't have flash, java, or codecs. Futhermore the Applications require twice as much RAM as a 32bit-System does.
12:21.12vinemanHell yeah, the optimisation is too minor to be considered!
12:22.32roxvilleDammitJim, howdy :)
12:22.52DammitJimwhat's going on, roxville ?
12:23.46roxvillenot much... i'm busy gigging...and learning Adobe After Effects...
12:23.56roxvilleso a lot of time in..... winbloze
12:24.33roxvilleand we're trying to find my wife a job in sarasota....so we can move there
12:25.13DammitJimadobe???
12:25.23roxvilleyeah
12:26.55DammitJiminteresting
12:27.29vinemanexcuse my ignorance and lack of googling will, where is sarasota?
12:27.51DammitJimSarasota is south west florida
12:27.53roxvillevineman,  florida west coast
12:27.54DammitJimwhere are you vineman ?
12:28.00roxvillejust south of Tampa
12:28.14vinemanI'm in Orange, central west NSW, Australia
12:28.25DammitJimOrange county? :D
12:28.41vinemanWe prefer to say Orange Country!
12:28.57DammitJimlol
12:28.59DammitJimsweet oranges?
12:29.07roxvillebut i think the town, or city, is called Orange... right?
12:29.16vinemanActually, known as an apple growing region
12:29.29roxvillelol, perfect :)
12:29.39roxvilleand going into winter...
12:29.54vinemanRoxville, the town is called orange, I'm 15km out of town on an extinct volcano
12:30.03vinemanI'm hoping its extinct
12:30.04roxvilleso the apples should be ripe now...or gone, even
12:30.20vinemanApples pretty much gone, leaves falling off trees
12:30.26roxvilleya
12:30.34vinemanVery pretty
12:30.53roxvilletries to stay current with the global apple seasons
12:31.22vinemanIt's always apple season, just figuring out where is the issue
12:31.32roxvilleexactly
12:31.59vinemanSo move to florida, where are you now?
12:32.35roxvillehttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Charleston,+SC&daddr=Sarasota,+FL&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.59616,83.496094&ie=UTF8&z=7
12:32.56vinemanI'm very much enjoying 4 seasons having moved from Sydney which is big city/ sub tropical weather
12:32.57roxville:)
12:33.10keyravineman: Tomorrow's Forecast: Hot and Dry! Ideal for burning liveCDs!!
12:33.53roxvilleyes... i am originally from Stockholm, Sweden, and I enjoy seasons too... but 9 years here has made me soft...
12:34.07vinemanFlorida is neat, always wanted to go to the big over ocean highway - what is it called?
12:34.10roxvillethat map link should explain
12:34.53roxvilleDammitJim,  what is he talking about?
12:35.12roxvilleor... is it the highway down to the keys?
12:35.42vinemanYeah, its down to the keys, mostly bridges over the ocean, features in movies
12:35.59roxvilleyeah
12:36.09roxvillei have not been down there either
12:36.22vinemanRoad to nowhere?
12:36.31roxvillefrom Miami, I think it is a 4-5 hour drive down to Key West
12:36.54vinemanyeah key west, that is the one, built on an old railway track
12:37.40roxville:)
12:37.43DammitJim3.5 hours to key west
12:38.00roxvillethey have deer down there that are so tiny
12:38.05roxvillereally cool
12:38.12vinemanWow, Its on my dream list
12:38.12roxvilleand not afraid of humans
12:38.28vinemanEven better, just need small rifle :-)
12:39.47vinemanDeer are a pest here, not native
12:40.47roxvillehehe
12:41.03vinemanAnyway, also on dream list is to harvet maple syrup in canada, with snowmobiles
12:41.11roxvillewell killing one of the key deer will get you the electric hair :)
12:41.29roxvillehehe, snow mobiles are FUN
12:41.36vinemanI have an electric chair in my car!
12:41.42roxvillelol
12:41.57vinemanNever tried a snowmobile part of the dream
12:42.08roxvilleDammitJim, did you stop talking to me just because i said "adobe"?
12:42.29roxvilleit's a good dream, vineman
12:42.39vinemanGotta have em
12:42.43roxvilleyep
12:42.59vinemanHe did say 'adobe'!
12:43.02roxvilleit snowed briefly here this winter... one night
12:43.10roxvilleit was gone early the next day
12:43.29vinemanWe get about 3-5 days a year in 2 dumps, rare in oz
12:43.30roxvillemy daughter, who is 7 now has never seen REAL snow
12:44.20vinemanwow - it is something all children should play in, i never saw snow until I was 17
12:45.04vinemanAlways wanted to live in snow for 1 month an learn to xc ski
12:45.22vinemansort of like learning a language, you have to be there
12:45.27roxvilleyeah, it rocks
12:46.00roxvillei think xc is more fun than down hill
12:46.10DammitJimxc?
12:46.20vinemanCross country
12:46.21roxvillecross country
12:46.26vinemansnap
12:46.37roxvillelol
12:47.01vinemancross country, you walk uphill and there are no bars
12:47.03roxvilleone of my best friends just moved back home to oz... to Canberra
12:47.23roxvillehe lived here for 11 years i think
12:47.34vinemancool, canberra is a nice place, particulary to bring up children.
12:47.47vinemanIf I had them, I'd be in canberra
12:47.55roxvillelol
12:47.56vinemangood work oppertunites as well
12:48.22roxvillepacks up his family and makes a sign... "Canberra or bust"
12:48.58vinemanI've just got two cats
12:49.14vinemanboth use elive
12:49.17roxvillethat's a family too
12:49.33roxvillelol...  i know... they walk on the keyboard
12:50.36vinemanThey are sucked in by the spinning alt-tab compiz on kubuntu, but othewise they love elive
12:50.39roxvilleDammitJim, how is Orlando this morning?
12:50.50keyravineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
12:50.51DammitJim74 degrees and sunny
12:51.49roxvillesame as here, then
12:51.55roxvillenice
12:52.03vinemanSo DammitJim, where are you, and how many cats do you have
12:52.10DammitJimOrlando
12:52.12DammitJimno cats
12:52.16roxvillewe had a tornado scare here last night... but it died
12:52.19DammitJimbut 3 children and 2 in the way :)
12:52.33roxvilleno tmany twisters in this region... just scares
12:52.40vinemanCool, good luck
12:53.00roxvilleDammitJim,  you got twins on the way?
12:53.05vinemanWe get 100km/h winds = 60mph and that is scary enough
12:53.29roxvilleor... two wives? :D
12:53.45vinemanSome things are better unsaid . . .
12:53.56DammitJimyessss
12:53.59DammitJimtwins on the way
12:54.25roxvillehehe
12:54.31roxvilleDammitJim,  CONGRATS!
12:54.35roxvillei think...
12:54.48DammitJimthanks!
12:54.49roxvillebetter go look for another job...
12:54.51DammitJimoh, totally
12:54.55roxville:)
12:55.01DammitJimnah... Imight quit my job just to be with them
12:55.27roxvilleok... and you are an organic farmer?
12:55.31roxvilleself sufficient?
12:55.34roxville:)
12:56.15vinemanJust looking after the kids should be seriously considered
12:56.22DammitJimtotally
12:56.26DammitJimoh no
12:56.28roxvilleyeah
12:56.33roxvilleA man was sunbathing naked at the beach.
12:56.33roxvilleFor the sake of civility, and to keep it from getting
12:56.33roxville<PROTECTED>
12:56.33roxvilleA woman walks past and says,  snickering,
12:56.34roxville"If you were a Gentleman,   you'd lift your hat!!"
12:56.34DammitJimwe'll just eat from Elive CD donations :)
12:56.34roxvilleHe raised an eyebrow,  and replied,
12:56.36roxville"If you weren't so ugly,   it would lift itself."
12:56.43roxvillehehe
12:57.02roxvilledonates 10 elive cd's to DammitJim ...for dinner
12:57.21vinemanYou do need the incoming $$$, but you only get one go with the little ones
12:57.25DammitJimlol
12:58.11vinemanWe are trying, but sadly not self sufficient
12:59.07vinemanEveryone should do an energy budget and solar cell cost worksheet, just to realise how far away we are
12:59.21keyravineman: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
12:59.35roxvillelol Keyptor[Work]  :D
12:59.39roxvilleoops
12:59.44roxvillei meant keyra
13:00.05roxvillestops doing auto-complete on keyra
13:00.57vinemanYou can't eat elive cd's - they are too tough and not tasty!
13:01.13roxvilleyou gotta cook 'em right
13:01.29roxvillejust like wombats
13:01.35vinemanHowevery they do a great job on your computer!!
13:01.42vinemanunlike wombats
13:01.48roxvillelol
13:02.13vinemanNever get a wombat to werk on yr computer
13:02.14roxvilleok, so wombats are tasy... i gotta come up something better.... bats?
13:02.26roxvilletasty even
13:02.30DammitJimwhat are wombats?
13:02.44vinemanwaste of money brains and talent - WOMBAT
13:03.32vinemanwombats are a rotund, 40kg marsupial with short legs
13:04.11vinemanSomeone will have to google for more details
13:05.20vinemanWombats are renowned for destroying cars, despite there small (ish) size
13:05.40vinemanNo panel damage, just a trashed car
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13:06.59vinemanWe have fruit bats in Orange - first time ever.
13:07.02jordanHello i can't boot elive can someone help me please ?
13:07.18vinemanJordan, so what is happening?
13:08.03jordanvineman there's somes errors with sr0
13:08.28jordanand then it doesn't work anymore after that
13:08.45DammitJimhi jordan
13:08.52jordanhi DammitJim
13:09.13vinemanHave you checked the md5? to make sure you have a good copp
13:09.21jordan"Buffer I/0 error on device sr0 , logical block 176708"
13:09.39jordanvinceman yeah I just did it
13:09.51jordanno errors elive.iso is not broken
13:10.05vinemanWhat hardware, anything special?
13:10.52jordannothing is special in my computer
13:11.08vinemanI know that feeling . . .
13:11.21vinemanBut elive generally works
13:11.30jordanyeah but never in my comuter
13:11.34jordan*computer
13:11.41jordansame error with elive gem
13:11.54jordanit's already happening with elive topaze ^^
13:12.14vinemanSuggest simple things like cleaning the disk
13:12.26jordanalready done ;p
13:12.50jordanI write the file.iso on 2 different CD
13:13.21jordanI don't understand at all
13:13.35vinemanDo any other linux distro's work - clutching at straws here
13:13.37jordanthe best is that I tried the same CD on 3 different computer
13:13.42jordansame error on two of them
13:13.55jordanyeah vineman, I've ubuntu and mandriva
13:14.18jordandebian and and other
13:14.41vinemanHow about using losetup to mount the iso as a loop device and remove the cd drive?
13:15.15jordanI don't know at all how to do that...
13:15.31jordanbut I believe the problem is the CD drive
13:15.51jordanit should work if I tried...
13:16.29vinemanyou should be able to mount it: losetop /dev/sd(yourcdom) /dev/loop(yourloopdevice)\
13:17.00vinemanthen you can mount it with mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/loop0
13:17.19jordanand then how can I boot on it ? With the bios ?
13:17.27vinemanthen try an install into a vm with qemu
13:17.45vinemanthat will tell if your image is ok\
13:18.45jordanbut the cheksum already proved that the image is ok
13:18.56jordanI guess there's a simpler solution
13:19.02vinemanYeah, but it don't install!
13:19.26jordanokay
13:19.30jordanthanks for your help
13:19.35jordani'll check on the web
13:19.39jordanbut later
13:19.44vinemanI've never seen a computer the elive in vesa mode does not work
13:19.44jordannow i've some work to do ;p
13:19.57jordanvineman I trust you ^^
13:20.18vinemanthanks, I'm around gmt + 10
13:20.20jordanbut my computer is not so old and it's working with many linux distrib
13:20.22jordanokay
13:20.25jordansee you later ;p
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13:32.02vinemanSo roxville, you are into music & gigging?
13:32.44PrinceAMDroxville, ???::..<>..::???
13:33.27vinemanSo PrinceAMD, you are into music & gigging?
13:33.42PrinceAMDi like metal n reggae n hip-hop
13:33.50PrinceAMDno gigs that's roxville thing
13:33.55vinemanSo vineman, you are into music & gigging?
13:34.07PrinceAMDvineman, u bot?
13:34.11PrinceAMDvineman, BOT??
13:34.30vinemanno, just trying it out
13:34.48PrinceAMDok
13:35.04vinemanPrinceAMD, have you heard any skip-hop - aussie hip-hop?
13:35.19PrinceAMDno
13:35.41vinemanClassic band is hilltop hoods from adelaide
13:35.52PrinceAMDno bot
13:36.17vinemanDid an unplugged albumn with adelaide symphony orchestra to booost their ratings
13:36.53vinemanOtherwise bliss-and-esso
13:38.09vinemanwe have a bit of a crossover here with hip-hop and folk, quite good really
13:39.25vinemanOther Sydney hiphop is Horror show
13:39.37vinemanand also
13:41.36vinemanThe Herd
13:41.41vinemanand TZU
13:42.11vinemanBliss & esso would be more correctly spelt as Bliss & eso
13:42.44vinemanYou might also like dj Matty-B from Western Australia
13:43.18vinemanThere is much more, unique sounds
13:45.52vinemanSeth Senty from melbourne - the waitress song - definately on the folk end but entertaining
13:46.30vineman<intenet tubes clogging due to music downloads>
13:49.55vinemanOh yeah, don't tell the hip-hop artists it is crossover with folk, that is just my obervation
13:56.01vinemanSo PrinceAMD - you like skip-hop?  
13:56.28PrinceAMDi would like to kick you but i forgot how to
13:56.39vinemanenjoy
13:56.59vinemanFlorida - that is against-me teritory isn't it
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18:00.56Elive_user41_nl;;;
18:01.33AlexAnteMachinahi Elive_user41_nl
18:06.22Elive_user41_nlDo elive pqckqges zork on debiqn lenny?
18:06.47Elive_user41_nluh qwerty
18:06.58AlexAnteMachinahuh??
18:07.21AlexAnteMachinayo. its based on debian stable.
18:07.54Elive_user41_nlah thx
18:08.03Elive_user41_nlare they free to use
18:09.56Elive_user41_nl?
18:10.04AlexAnteMachinathey? who are "they"?
18:10.22Elive_user41_nlelive binaries
18:10.56AlexAnteMachinasure
18:11.15Elive_user41_nlcool
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18:23.48Elive_user41_nlhmm the firefox isn t free
18:24.24Elive_user41_nlanything else i need to worry about?
18:25.08Elive_user41_nl+meqnt ff logo
18:25.20Elive_user41_nldanm qwerty
18:26.14AlexAnteMachinahuh?
18:26.33AlexAnteMachinahow about setting your keyboard!?
18:27.21AlexAnteMachina"the firefox" is iceweasel
18:27.46Elive_user41_nlI know
18:27.59AlexAnteMachinak
18:28.09Elive_user41_nlbut i can t distribute the logo
18:28.21AlexAnteMachina?
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18:28.33AlexAnteMachinai dont really get what u r talking about.
18:29.28Elive_user41_nlI need debian live cd with E and it needs be be legal
18:29.53Elive_user41_nlmake that official live cd
18:32.33AlexAnteMachinahuh??
18:32.36AlexAnteMachinalegal?
18:32.40Elive_user41_nlusing debian policies
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18:32.51AlexAnteMachinasince when is there any illegal elive?
18:33.02Elive_user41_nlheh heh
18:33.57Elive_user41_nlThe FF logo would be a legal problem for us
18:34.18Elive_user41_nlno uptsream ff
18:35.23AlexAnteMachina?
18:35.27AlexAnteMachinastill dont get it.
18:35.33AlexAnteMachinawho's us?
18:37.01Elive_user41_nlwe can t use non-free logos
18:37.06Elive_user41_nldebian
18:38.05AlexAnteMachinawe?
18:38.09AlexAnteMachinawho is "WE"?
18:38.31Elive_user41_nldebian project
18:40.15AlexAnteMachinaokay.
18:40.34AlexAnteMachinabut i dont get what u r aiming on.
18:40.45AlexAnteMachinaelive is based on debian stable.
18:41.34Elive_user41_nlis it distributional like debian free
18:41.52AlexAnteMachinanow what are you going to do/thinking of?
18:43.03AlexAnteMachinasure. everybody can dl it and use it free as a liveCD. Only for installation one needs to pay some bucks.
18:43.17keyraAlexAnteMachina: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes
18:43.18Elive_user41_nlis elive using anything non-free we should be aware of ?
18:43.27AlexAnteMachinaso its free like in freedom.
18:43.34Elive_user41_nlno
18:43.40Elive_user41_nlqs in license<
18:43.44AlexAnteMachinahuh?
18:43.52AlexAnteMachinaqs?
18:44.07Elive_user41_nlno as in license
18:44.09AlexAnteMachinaI'm not very much into that license stuff.
18:44.19AlexAnteMachinayou should email thanatermesis.
18:44.28AlexAnteMachinahe's the founder and maindeveloper
18:45.00Elive_user41_nlk
18:45.05AlexAnteMachinaAnd since it's his project he should know best.
18:45.07AlexAnteMachina:)
18:45.32Elive_user41_nlthank you for your time
18:45.34Elive_user41_nljens
18:45.41AlexAnteMachinajens?
18:45.44AlexAnteMachinawhos jens?
18:45.54Elive_user41_nlme
18:46.01AlexAnteMachinalol... k jens.
18:46.04Elive_user41_nlbb
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19:05.19deKadentWhat's the non-cost installer modules?
19:05.32deKadenti feel like paying the man, this is awesome
19:05.33keyradeKadent: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
19:05.58AlexAnteMachinadeKadent, ?
19:06.01AlexAnteMachinahuh?
19:06.11deKadenthey its me alex, she_dyed
19:06.15deKadentam on the liveCD
19:06.31AlexAnteMachinanice
19:06.41deKadentfigured out how to make it display properly
19:06.50deKadentwell after trial and error
19:07.44deKadenthas it always been audacious for music player?
19:07.52deKadentdo you recall?
19:10.26AlexAnteMachinanah
19:10.33AlexAnteMachinaits been xmms
19:10.47AlexAnteMachinabut xmms has died. no dev anymore.
19:11.03AlexAnteMachinaso thana decided to switch to audacious
19:11.06deKadentdamm and i had plugins already from way back
19:11.19AlexAnteMachinalol.... apt-get install xmms!
19:11.50AlexAnteMachinait works. just not moving forward anymore.
19:12.07deKadentcheck this out, you type xmms, and audacious came up grrr
19:12.20deKadentok
19:12.52AlexAnteMachinagg
19:13.00AlexAnteMachinait aint installed, darling!
19:22.35AlexAnteMachinadeKadent, what r u up to?
19:22.42AlexAnteMachinainstalling 2.0?
19:22.57deKadentno not yet
19:23.04AlexAnteMachinabut what?
19:23.08deKadenti was checking first
19:23.25deKadentto make sure ecomorph would work
19:23.35AlexAnteMachinadoes it?
19:23.38deKadent1 out of 10 it did
19:23.39keyradeKadent: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
19:23.45AlexAnteMachinahuh?
19:24.05deKadentif I load nvidia module correctly
19:24.13AlexAnteMachinaoh, is it that old/crappy machine youve told me about?
19:24.16deKadentTHEN use the xorg.conf I saved
19:24.16AlexAnteMachina*gg*
19:24.29deKadenti prefer the term legacy
19:24.33deKadent=)
19:24.44deKadenteven though your netbook is prolly faster
19:25.06deKadentlike tortoise and the hare
19:26.06AlexAnteMachinawhy not getting something faster?
19:26.22deKadentwhen i find work soon...
19:26.24AlexAnteMachinaMostly I'm using old/used hardware.
19:26.40AlexAnteMachinaI get it cheap or free from friends.
19:27.09deKadentbecause they upgrade?
19:27.15AlexAnteMachinayep
19:28.19deKadenthow slow though
19:28.26deKadenton the old one
19:28.28AlexAnteMachinahumm.... deKadent do you know where to set associated applications?
19:28.55deKadentnot really wait
19:29.41deKadentin /etc/mime.types  but i edit it
19:29.49deKadenti dont know if theres an app
19:35.23AlexAnteMachinanot what I'm looking for.
19:36.02AlexAnteMachinaI'd like to have icedove opening links by using iceweasel instead of google-chrome.
19:38.05DammitJimwho doesn't like google-chrome?
19:38.06DammitJimlol
19:38.45deKadentyou dont think its an icedove setting
19:44.31AlexAnteMachinachances are it is an icedove setting. But i cant find it!
19:45.49deKadentor maybe an external variable, try echo $BROWSER
19:52.03AlexAnteMachinathis does nothing
19:56.09deKadentor this one ls /etc/alternatives
19:56.18deKadentbut there is a README there
19:56.25deKadentwhen I got that far I gave up
19:58.57deKadentsee there is a x-www-browser entry
20:06.03AlexAnteMachinawell... I solved it the radical way.
20:06.09AlexAnteMachinadeinstalled google chrome.
20:06.11AlexAnteMachina:)
20:12.05deKadentextreeeeme
20:25.35AlexAnteMachinawell, ... it works!
20:25.53deKadentwell done =)
20:26.02deKadentas planned right?
20:26.04deKadentheh heh
20:26.17AlexAnteMachinasir, yep, sir!
20:26.20AlexAnteMachina;)
20:27.16AlexAnteMachinachrome works pretty nice. but i dont know what data google collects when using it. so i do not.
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20:27.52deKadentyeah like to see what ads to throw at you
20:27.595EXAAVGEUhola algun latino
20:28.105EXAAVGEUo de habla hispana
20:28.13keyra5EXAAVGEU: que tal ?
20:28.14AlexAnteMachinai need a shower...
20:28.205EXAAVGEUhola como andas
20:28.26deKadentk Alex
20:28.305EXAAVGEUsoy d eargentina probajdo elive
20:28.54AlexAnteMachinathanks deKadent for allowing me having a shower.
20:28.56AlexAnteMachina<PROTECTED>
20:28.595EXAAVGEUy nesesito informacion de instalacion
20:29.115EXAAVGEUcomo esan sala
20:29.30deKadenti will even let you use soap Alex
20:29.39AlexAnteMachinareally?
20:29.41AlexAnteMachinawow...
20:29.45AlexAnteMachinau r awsome!
20:30.09deKadent75% to 81% playing mp4 movie not bad
20:30.15deKadentCPU
20:30.565EXAAVGEUbueno gracias jaja
20:31.05AlexAnteMachinadeKadent, do you know someone speakin spanish for helping 5EXAAVGEU ?
20:31.485EXAAVGEUemmm en castyellano no hablo ingles
20:56.25deKadentno
20:58.01AlexAnteMachinadeKadent, in mplayer you can set gl driver to be used.
20:58.21deKadenti'll try it now
20:58.39AlexAnteMachinathis will use gpu instead of cpu
20:58.49AlexAnteMachinaworks fine with nvidia
20:59.17AlexAnteMachinaand when using mplayer-plugin for firefox it will also work for websites!
20:59.18AlexAnteMachina;)
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23:07.27deKadentuh oh what happened to exchange.enlightenment.org?
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23:27.25deKadentdamm i love this
23:27.38deKadent1% volume in cplay but still loud
23:30.44PrinceAMDlol
23:30.57PrinceAMD1%??
23:31.17deKadenti know (btw PrinceAMD its me she_dyed)
23:31.27deKadentthis is the one they reported
23:31.34deKadentthat the volume is WAY HIGH
23:31.41deKadentat the startup
23:31.51PrinceAMDok
23:31.55deKadentlol. me never had it better
23:32.01PrinceAMDhahah
23:32.22PrinceAMDyeah, who the hell complained that's too loud that person must be old :)
23:32.50deKadentthat geezer!
23:33.07deKadentif he stuck around, he'd yell Get off my lawn!
23:33.38PrinceAMDyeah
23:35.04deKadentman i want to get more themes but exchange is down
23:35.08deKadentgrrrr
23:35.28deKadenteven if I went to e17-stuff.org
23:35.34deKadentthey point to exchange
23:36.13PrinceAMD:(
23:36.24PrinceAMDhm , enlightenment was down the other day too
23:36.32PrinceAMDi'm sure they are working on it
23:36.48deKadentoh wait then its ok
23:37.08PrinceAMDbrb going test something
23:37.11deKadentk

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