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| 02:59.51 | vineman | is back (gone 11:56:40) |
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| 04:25.45 | vineman | Hey keyra, If I want more than 4GB ram what should I do? |
| 04:25.59 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 04:26.06 | vineman | ok |
| 04:26.14 | vineman | How about compiz? |
| 04:26.29 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 04:26.46 | vineman | cool, thanks |
| 04:29.31 | vineman | hey keyra, If I want more than 4GB ram what should I do? |
| 04:30.15 | vineman | and compiz? |
| 04:31.17 | vineman | and why should I pay? |
| 04:31.49 | vineman | keyra is very quiet . . . |
| 04:50.38 | vineman | 4 GB ram |
| 04:50.52 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 04:51.19 | vineman | 4 GB ram |
| 04:51.52 | vineman | compiz |
| 04:52.06 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 04:52.17 | vineman | compiz |
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| 04:53.11 | vineman | do I have to pay? |
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| 04:55.56 | crunchbang | good evening |
| 04:56.05 | jism | good evening |
| 04:57.28 | vineman | good evening |
| 04:59.13 | vineman | Its more like afternoon here, where are you located jism? |
| 05:00.51 | vineman | K1W1 land? |
| 05:06.24 | vineman | 4 GB ram |
| 05:06.39 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 05:06.58 | vineman | At least with a bot, I get a response |
| 05:09.58 | vineman | debian |
| 05:10.36 | vineman | compiz |
| 05:10.50 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 05:11.00 | vineman | bingo |
| 05:11.13 | vineman | debian is rubbish |
| 05:12.27 | vineman | anyone except 'bots talking? |
| 05:12.31 | gwildor | .... |
| 05:12.56 | vineman | gwildor, how do |
| 05:13.30 | vineman | I trigger keyras debian response? |
| 05:13.51 | gwildor | hehe, yeah... |
| 05:17.20 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:17.34 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 05:18.55 | vineman | 10 minutes |
| 05:22.18 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:22.51 | vineman | 5 mins |
| 05:23.21 | vineman | I'm so sad, baiting bots |
| 05:23.45 | vineman | for entertainment |
| 05:25.51 | vineman | 4GB raM |
| 05:28.04 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:28.18 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 05:28.38 | vineman | Simple 10 min timer, thanks keyra |
| 05:28.52 | keyra | vineman: welcome :) |
| 05:29.34 | vineman | keyra, will you go out with me? |
| 05:30.22 | vineman | keyra, will you take debian out with me? |
| 05:30.49 | vineman | keyra, will you take compiz out with me? |
| 05:31.03 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 05:34.18 | vineman | hmmm . . . some state management evident |
| 05:34.34 | vineman | 4 GB ram |
| 05:36.58 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:37.12 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 05:37.45 | vineman | ok less than 10 mins |
| 05:38.19 | vineman | but more than 5 mins |
| 05:38.26 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:39.29 | vineman | keyra, will you take 4GB ram out with me? |
| 05:39.53 | vineman | compiz |
| 05:40.08 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 05:40.54 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:41.30 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:42.02 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:43.18 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:44.22 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:44.36 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 05:45.31 | vineman | that would be 7 mins |
| 05:51.00 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:51.24 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:51.38 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 05:52.43 | vineman | debian package management |
| 05:53.07 | vineman | compiz |
| 05:53.21 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 05:57.56 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:58.19 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:58.54 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 05:59.08 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 06:19.55 | vineman | elive payment |
| 06:20.09 | keyra | vineman: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 06:20.36 | Wizard | hi |
| 06:20.42 | vineman | hello |
| 06:21.06 | vineman | new to elive or a regular? |
| 06:21.20 | Wizard | old :> |
| 06:21.36 | vineman | cool, its a great system |
| 06:21.44 | Wizard | kind of |
| 06:22.03 | Wizard | :P |
| 06:22.04 | vineman | kind of? what don't you like? |
| 06:22.18 | Wizard | close development model |
| 06:22.36 | vineman | fair enough |
| 06:23.03 | vineman | I'd open the model if I could |
| 06:23.08 | vineman | but don't have time |
| 06:23.32 | vineman | Are you contributing? |
| 06:23.52 | vineman | I do some translation when I cat |
| 06:24.04 | vineman | that would be when i can |
| 06:25.45 | vineman | You can install e17 from debian and then write the scripts on your own |
| 06:25.59 | keyra | vineman: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 06:26.27 | Wizard | heh, i know vineman |
| 06:27.01 | Wizard | i don't have much time for such things as translations |
| 06:27.22 | vineman | I play and work with many linux systems |
| 06:27.32 | vineman | what is best, I dont know |
| 06:27.42 | vineman | I keep coming back to elive |
| 06:28.33 | vineman | I hate the desktop menu model, do I have to klick on the desktop to get a menu? |
| 06:29.10 | vineman | but do i want a menu button when I'm not using it - hell no! |
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| 06:30.26 | vineman | I use elive and kubuntu as general desktops |
| 06:30.51 | jism | im running elive 2.0 right now |
| 06:30.56 | jism | its kind of slow... |
| 06:31.12 | vineman | topaz is a good distro - what hardware? |
| 06:31.34 | vineman | How much ram? |
| 06:33.31 | vineman | jism - I've never considered elive as slow |
| 06:33.48 | vineman | What are you comparing it against? |
| 06:34.01 | jism | vineman, i usually use crunchbang on my laptop |
| 06:34.09 | jism | im actually not sure how much ram this laptop has |
| 06:34.22 | jism | 2.5 ghz dual core |
| 06:35.00 | jism | 2 gigs ram |
| 06:35.08 | vineman | Not sure what is crunchbang, can you tell me the window manager? |
| 06:35.36 | vineman | be surprised if it faster than e17 |
| 06:35.40 | jism | openbox |
| 06:35.53 | jism | openbox is a really fast window manager |
| 06:36.43 | vineman | probably faster than e17, but not so pretty |
| 06:38.21 | jism | http://www.imagebam.com/image/cd2e0378648434 |
| 06:38.32 | jism | vineman, openbox can be made pretty nice |
| 06:39.08 | vineman | you find #! good, I'm a bit frustrate with elive being based on debian stable |
| 06:39.24 | jism | why? |
| 06:39.36 | jism | i think #! is actually about to move to debian |
| 06:39.51 | jism | i forget what the reasoning is, but ubuntu has been upsetting them for some reason |
| 06:40.13 | vineman | python 2.5 works but I'd rather have 2.6 for example |
| 06:40.40 | vineman | ubuntu is good, I use kubuntu every day |
| 06:41.13 | vineman | But I also use kolab as an enterprise server |
| 06:41.45 | vineman | and kubuntu kontact is fairly variable as to how it works |
| 06:42.46 | jism | i use arch linux on my main box |
| 06:42.56 | vineman | the debian package managent system is probably the best, fine grained and accurate |
| 06:43.00 | jism | thought im actually about to start using tiny7 as my main OS due to gaming |
| 06:43.11 | jism | and run arch linux or netbsd in vmware |
| 06:43.40 | vineman | It is THE reason I use deb or its derivatives |
| 06:44.13 | vineman | arch keeps coming up as good replacement |
| 06:45.00 | vineman | But i keep coming back to elive - it keeps being fun to use |
| 06:46.07 | jism | vineman, yeah its really just packaging though |
| 06:46.10 | jism | its the same with ubuntu |
| 06:46.14 | jism | or ubuntu variants |
| 06:46.17 | jism | its just packaged nicely |
| 06:46.25 | jism | you could get arch to look and act just like debain |
| 06:46.52 | jism | you would just have to rsync /var /opt and /usr/share over to / |
| 06:46.56 | jism | and all the configs would be the same |
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| 06:58.15 | vineman | irarus, that is the point of a distro, no or minimal confif on the rollout |
| 06:59.01 | icarus | vineman, haha, i kind of just got banned from #crunchbang for mentioning elive and talking about bsd |
| 06:59.46 | vineman | I'm not going to ban you unless you are talking crap . .. |
| 07:00.18 | icarus | as long as elive is never based on gentoo, ill have no reason to knock it |
| 07:00.30 | vineman | You can talk !# or bsd here |
| 07:00.31 | icarus | thanarmetis does a good job with packaging the distro |
| 07:00.34 | icarus | and making it pretty |
| 07:00.40 | icarus | and bring e17 to better focus |
| 07:01.05 | vineman | It is an excellent distro, just wish it had some more momemtum |
| 07:01.24 | vineman | and was not based on a single developer . . . |
| 07:01.43 | icarus | vineman, slackware has a single developer too, heh |
| 07:01.52 | icarus | but i guess...hes got more years |
| 07:01.56 | vineman | The single developer is the weak point |
| 07:02.20 | vineman | yes and the slackware developer will die and then what? |
| 07:02.50 | icarus | slack has a pretty strong community |
| 07:03.07 | icarus | but it depends how you look at it |
| 07:03.16 | icarus | a single developer means that its all the vision of one person |
| 07:03.31 | icarus | and they can make it whatever they want with little intervention from others |
| 07:03.39 | vineman | yes, but they are followers, who will replace patrick volkerding? |
| 07:04.06 | icarus | vineman, im not sure |
| 07:04.15 | icarus | i guess the community could take it over |
| 07:04.44 | vineman | No they couldn't |
| 07:04.56 | vineman | management by committee never works |
| 07:05.04 | vineman | look at microsoft |
| 07:05.24 | icarus | well thats how the linux kernel is developed |
| 07:05.41 | vineman | You need strong ideas with a strong leader |
| 07:06.01 | vineman | without linus, there would be no kernel |
| 07:06.15 | vineman | he says what goes |
| 07:06.38 | vineman | If he is continually wrong, the linux dies |
| 07:07.14 | icarus | hmm, i forgot about linus... |
| 07:07.16 | vineman | Until there is another linus, there won't be a another linux |
| 07:07.17 | icarus | how is bsd developed? |
| 07:07.38 | vineman | bsd is not developed, that is its strong point |
| 07:07.55 | icarus | as long as bash is still around, ill probably be fine |
| 07:08.10 | icarus | no matter what kernel or os prominence comes out in the future |
| 07:08.16 | icarus | bash is my window to any OS |
| 07:08.22 | vineman | You've get crusty bearded unix guys resisting change |
| 07:08.35 | icarus | vineman, pretty much |
| 07:08.40 | vineman | THat is why bsd is secure |
| 07:09.29 | vineman | Change is not always good |
| 07:09.46 | vineman | version 3 is not always better than version 2 |
| 07:11.32 | icarus | vineman, yeah |
| 07:11.55 | icarus | i didnt really understand these concepts until i started learning more about programming and how development actually works |
| 07:12.19 | icarus | its kind of on the basis of "dont fix what aint broke" |
| 07:12.33 | icarus | a system could stay the same forever given no new paradigms arise |
| 07:13.13 | vineman | My experience says the code syntax is minimal - but it is the hardest thing to master when you start |
| 07:13.32 | vineman | If a system works, why change it? |
| 07:14.30 | vineman | The key to programming is understanding the problem, and finding a language to express the solution |
| 07:14.41 | vineman | elegantly! |
| 07:15.00 | vineman | and understanble by others! |
| 07:15.13 | vineman | that would be understandable |
| 07:16.23 | icarus | hah |
| 07:16.47 | icarus | i would say "no, i only know this language, im going to use it to write code for any and all perceiveable problems" |
| 07:16.48 | vineman | As time goes by, you will learn more about the politics of programming, language wars etc. |
| 07:16.54 | icarus | which is C |
| 07:17.37 | vineman | and bash is the best user interface ever, which is why people pay money for iphones |
| 07:18.20 | vineman | Personally, I'd say forth is the best connector of man to machine |
| 07:18.57 | icarus | forth? |
| 07:19.05 | vineman | you should learn it, even just to compare your current language |
| 07:19.14 | icarus | im waiting for the perfection of gesture readings into computing |
| 07:19.21 | icarus | in a 3d plane |
| 07:19.34 | vineman | google it - the only language not designed by committee |
| 07:20.14 | vineman | not really relavent in today hi ram world |
| 07:20.31 | vineman | requires a programmer in touch with the solution |
| 07:21.03 | vineman | However, the problems remain the sam |
| 07:21.09 | vineman | that would be same |
| 07:21.54 | vineman | Imagine a language with no floating point and no syntax |
| 07:22.11 | icarus | i see its mostly used in bootloaders |
| 07:22.23 | vineman | and spacecraft |
| 07:23.01 | vineman | ultimate high reliability when crafted by proffesionals |
| 07:23.11 | icarus | hmm, this looks interesting |
| 07:23.26 | vineman | I'm not saying use it, just learn from it |
| 07:23.59 | icarus | im used to writing C, so the lack of a visible syntax makes it seem awesome |
| 07:25.07 | vineman | It requires that you develop a language to solve your problem |
| 07:25.38 | vineman | The actual procedures/functions are one or 2 lines long |
| 07:26.14 | vineman | It is only suited to small teams / one programmer |
| 07:27.27 | vineman | at the core, the base procedure is in assembler, you extend the forth language to suit your application |
| 07:27.41 | vineman | express it wrong, you get crap |
| 07:28.01 | vineman | express it well, you get tight code |
| 07:28.33 | vineman | icarus - there is no syntax! |
| 07:28.54 | vineman | everything works off the stack |
| 07:29.19 | vineman | you either have side effects, or you don't your choice |
| 07:29.42 | icarus | i like it |
| 07:29.48 | icarus | what other languages are there like this? |
| 07:30.19 | vineman | I use it on microprocessors |
| 07:30.45 | vineman | You should at least learn about forth |
| 07:30.54 | vineman | Then maybe scheme |
| 07:31.36 | vineman | If you can't use scheme, then python is a good choice |
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| 07:32.44 | vineman | Was a hard core object pascal progammer |
| 07:33.08 | vineman | strong typing, very formal syntax |
| 07:33.14 | vineman | never gone back |
| 07:33.18 | icarus | i know a little python |
| 07:33.45 | vineman | the list thing is lisp/scheme |
| 07:34.14 | vineman | lambda functions are pure lisp/scheme |
| 07:34.50 | vineman | Scheme is a simplified dialect of lisp |
| 07:34.57 | icarus | ive tried a little lisp |
| 07:35.01 | icarus | i know its used for AI |
| 07:35.31 | vineman | the concept is you have the current item and a list of everything else |
| 07:35.52 | vineman | this include the the entire system state |
| 07:35.56 | vineman | re |
| 07:36.03 | icarus | what are some good practice problems? |
| 07:36.15 | vineman | re-entrancy is not a problem |
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| 07:37.01 | Elive_user51_es | hai |
| 07:38.03 | vineman | http://thinking-forth.sourceforge.net/ is the text to read |
| 07:38.47 | vineman | It's early 80`s |
| 07:39.19 | icarus | thanks |
| 07:39.22 | vineman | just make sure you have an answer if you disagree |
| 07:39.43 | vineman | You might also want to look at erlang |
| 07:40.05 | vineman | lightweight theads doing there own thing |
| 07:40.19 | vineman | assumes that every thing will fail |
| 07:40.27 | vineman | like it does |
| 07:41.38 | vineman | that would be lightweight threads |
| 07:49.42 | icarus | haha, now im installing emacs to mess around with scheme |
| 07:50.15 | vineman | read thinking forth first! |
| 07:51.15 | vineman | plt-scheme is a good basic intro |
| 07:51.15 | vineman | You won't waste your time reading thinking forth |
| 07:52.29 | vineman | termite is an extension to scheme that makes in very erlang like |
| 07:52.51 | vineman | lightweight threads, no state etc |
| 07:53.13 | vineman | but read thinking forth, it will change your life |
| 07:53.45 | vineman | am I making my self clear, read thinking forth |
| 07:53.59 | icarus | im reading it |
| 07:54.12 | vineman | argue, diagree |
| 07:54.32 | vineman | remember, they had |
| 07:54.59 | vineman | Z80's with 64K ram |
| 07:55.13 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 07:55.20 | vineman | if they were lucky |
| 07:57.43 | vineman | gforth is a gpl forth that will work on nix & doze |
| 07:58.24 | vineman | There are professional forth systems that can do win api calls |
| 07:59.06 | vineman | I wouldt't reccomend that you go down the forth path for anything other than micros |
| 08:01.51 | vineman | we have multi processors that nix/doze can't handle |
| 08:02.35 | vineman | forth & erlang are designed to handle such hardware |
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| 08:38.02 | vineman | keyra: e17 debian 4GB ram compiz |
| 08:38.16 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 08:38.48 | vineman | keyra is <so> regular! |
| 08:39.01 | vineman | 4gb ram |
| 08:39.15 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 08:39.29 | vineman | and right on time |
| 08:40.01 | vineman | do I really have to bot-bait? |
| 08:40.19 | vineman | is there no one who wants to talk ? |
| 08:40.29 | icarus | im still here |
| 08:40.49 | vineman | cool, and reading I hope! |
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| 08:57.42 | icarus | vineman, yeah im checking it out |
| 08:58.41 | vineman | cool, good to hear, hope i wasnt over the top |
| 08:59.46 | vineman | you will benefit! |
| 09:03.40 | vineman | keyra: compiz e17 debian 4GB ram |
| 09:03.54 | keyra | vineman: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
| 09:04.31 | vineman | 4GB ram |
| 09:04.45 | keyra | vineman: to use more than 4 GB of ram in elive, go to the nurse mode and install the special kernel |
| 09:04.54 | vineman | thanks keyra |
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| 09:05.08 | keyra | vineman: welcome :) |
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| 13:05.45 | she_dyed | and rollers |
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| 13:23.34 | roxville | she_dyed, what's up, dude? |
| 13:23.46 | she_dyed | heya roxville |
| 13:23.55 | she_dyed | nothing much, how you been? |
| 13:23.56 | roxville | how ya been? |
| 13:24.21 | roxville | i'm ok... trying to learn cool apps in... another OS... |
| 13:24.23 | she_dyed | there've been better days but at least I get my drivers license reinstated |
| 13:24.29 | roxville | and trying to get gigs |
| 13:24.40 | she_dyed | which OS win7? mac? |
| 13:24.48 | roxville | and we're still trying to move down to sarasota...in july or so |
| 13:25.07 | roxville | (win7) |
| 13:25.23 | roxville | trying to learn after effects...it is fun! |
| 13:25.37 | she_dyed | for video? |
| 13:25.46 | she_dyed | graphics? |
| 13:25.51 | roxville | ya |
| 13:25.56 | she_dyed | oh nice |
| 13:26.11 | she_dyed | might be moving someplace, sooner than you |
| 13:26.15 | she_dyed | but still here |
| 13:26.15 | roxville | i have forgotten how to kill iceweasel... |
| 13:26.28 | roxville | wow, what place might that be? |
| 13:26.38 | she_dyed | Still south florida |
| 13:26.47 | roxville | killall mozilla-firefox didn't work |
| 13:26.52 | she_dyed | maybe broward county (fort lauderdale) |
| 13:27.04 | roxville | lol, not very far :D |
| 13:27.07 | she_dyed | right click on topbar and kill? |
| 13:27.10 | she_dyed | yeah not very |
| 13:27.21 | roxville | no, i closed it...but it is still running |
| 13:27.41 | she_dyed | is moz-firefox the right name tho? |
| 13:27.47 | roxville | so i can't open a new one |
| 13:27.50 | she_dyed | not weasel |
| 13:28.04 | roxville | that's why i'm asking! |
| 13:28.11 | roxville | lol |
| 13:28.14 | she_dyed | i use a script that finds them all |
| 13:28.29 | she_dyed | i just type ka.pl weas |
| 13:28.30 | roxville | how show all running processes? |
| 13:28.32 | she_dyed | or ka.pl moz |
| 13:28.40 | she_dyed | ps aux |
| 13:30.06 | roxville | chris 3845 48.6 9.1 539212 307140 ? Ssl 07:01 71:52 /usr/lib/icewea |
| 13:30.35 | roxville | crap |
| 13:30.44 | roxville | i used to remember this! |
| 13:31.20 | she_dyed | yeah so I was thrown off by the question |
| 13:31.43 | she_dyed | n00b! |
| 13:31.48 | she_dyed | lol |
| 13:31.58 | roxville | hehe yes |
| 13:32.03 | roxville | i am ever-noob |
| 13:32.12 | she_dyed | dont worry i wont tell em |
| 13:32.19 | roxville | hehe thanks! |
| 13:32.41 | she_dyed | np =) |
| 13:32.43 | roxville | the scary part is... i can't google it! |
| 13:32.58 | roxville | ahhh wait... |
| 13:33.25 | roxville | OOOHHH YEAH!! |
| 13:33.37 | roxville | da rox remembah! |
| 13:33.41 | she_dyed | nice |
| 13:33.47 | roxville | killall firefox-bin |
| 13:34.33 | she_dyed | man its like you just came out of a coma |
| 13:34.41 | Wizard | saw |
| 13:34.44 | Wizard | hi! |
| 13:34.54 | Wizard | firefox sux balls |
| 13:35.08 | keyra | Wizard: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
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| 13:35.21 | roxville | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpwQUAZjl7o |
| 13:35.46 | roxville | hi Wizard how's things in PL? |
| 13:36.37 | roxville | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fn2KJ8B1Dw |
| 13:36.51 | roxville | the title sequence to this vid is probably my fav |
| 13:37.41 | she_dyed | so thats aftereffects roxville? |
| 13:38.46 | roxville | yes |
| 13:39.05 | roxville | basically all commercials you see on tv right now, are made with it |
| 13:39.40 | roxville | i see many effects and stuff that i recognize |
| 13:40.08 | roxville | lemme show an amazing site...this dude is phenomenal |
| 13:40.13 | Wizard | keyra: honey, i don't think if my bugreport will stop firefox from sucking balls :> |
| 13:40.26 | Wizard | roxville: there is a mass flood in PL |
| 13:40.27 | keyra | Wizard: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 13:40.49 | roxville | http://videocopilot.net/tutorials/ |
| 13:41.36 | roxville | if you hold the mouse over the images, you cvan see the result of each tutorial |
| 13:41.40 | roxville | Wizard, big flood, eh? |
| 13:41.43 | roxville | how big? |
| 13:42.13 | Wizard | many vilages and small cities are completely under water now |
| 13:42.29 | roxville | wow |
| 13:42.40 | roxville | just like here recently |
| 13:42.41 | she_dyed | uhman thats bad |
| 13:42.47 | Wizard | WisÅa flooded Kraków, i was there this weekend |
| 13:43.07 | Wizard | now wave reaches Warszawa |
| 13:43.09 | roxville | damn... krakow is a large city! |
| 13:43.34 | Wizard | roxville: only few streets neer WisÅa were flooded |
| 13:44.21 | Wizard | also castle was in danger, but firefighters builded a barier |
| 13:44.37 | roxville | yeah |
| 13:44.45 | Wizard | built* |
| 13:44.59 | roxville | bad winter...lots of snow... does the trick |
| 13:45.04 | Wizard | but in southern Poland situation is quite dramatic |
| 13:45.43 | Wizard | it was because of showers |
| 13:45.45 | roxville | predicts that vodka sales will go up in poland |
| 13:45.53 | Wizard | it was raining for two weeks |
| 13:46.03 | roxville | wow! |
| 13:46.11 | Wizard | and is still raining |
| 13:46.30 | Wizard | i had a car crash because of the shower last thursday |
| 13:46.48 | she_dyed | wow |
| 13:47.01 | Wizard | :S |
| 13:47.17 | Wizard | now the repairs will cost me half of its value |
| 13:47.20 | she_dyed | oh no |
| 13:47.31 | keyra | Wizard: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 13:47.35 | roxville | can't image why someone would take the car with them in the shower |
| 13:47.37 | Wizard | keyra: shut up |
| 13:47.46 | roxville | or take a shower in the car |
| 13:47.51 | keyra | Wizard: :-# |
| 13:48.06 | she_dyed | skidded? |
| 13:48.14 | she_dyed | or poor visibility |
| 13:48.26 | roxville | Wizard, buddy, i am really sorry to hear about the cost of car repairs |
| 13:48.42 | roxville | please disregard my stupid attempts of humor |
| 13:49.31 | Wizard | it's all right |
| 13:50.09 | Wizard | but i've also got a ticket, police said it was my fault |
| 13:50.17 | she_dyed | oh no |
| 13:50.21 | Wizard | and i was driving about 30-40km/h |
| 13:50.32 | Wizard | k, enough about the bad times |
| 13:51.09 | she_dyed | yeh i been there |
| 13:51.24 | she_dyed | in fact, today i get my license reinstated |
| 13:51.32 | she_dyed | but no car =( |
| 13:51.34 | Wizard | huh? |
| 13:51.41 | Wizard | you had a crash? |
| 13:51.46 | she_dyed | no more like suspended |
| 13:52.01 | she_dyed | and the car needs work, almost sounds like your case too |
| 13:52.09 | she_dyed | repairs cost more than what its worth |
| 13:52.22 | Wizard | :/ |
| 13:52.39 | Wizard | what's car is that? |
| 13:52.46 | Wizard | what* |
| 13:52.47 | she_dyed | a saab softop |
| 13:53.25 | Wizard | cool ride :) |
| 13:53.34 | she_dyed | if it worked |
| 13:53.46 | roxville | a saab? you drive a swedish car? |
| 13:53.51 | Wizard | :D |
| 13:53.53 | she_dyed | yer |
| 13:53.57 | roxville | sah-weet! lol |
| 13:54.08 | she_dyed | i'd be glad if I could run it like Flinstones |
| 13:54.09 | roxville | or...if it worked, you'd be driving it :P |
| 13:54.24 | she_dyed | foot powered! |
| 13:54.29 | roxville | hehe |
| 13:54.47 | Wizard | she_dyed: so, actually, what did you do with it and why did you loose license? |
| 13:54.59 | roxville | Wizard, i'm glad to see that you are alright, though |
| 13:55.17 | roxville | here, Nashville was badly flodded, and many people died |
| 13:55.28 | roxville | Wizard, ....don' |
| 13:56.02 | roxville | t |
| 13:56.02 | roxville | ask :) |
| 13:56.02 | roxville | suspended usually means... DUI |
| 13:56.02 | she_dyed | no lol |
| 13:56.02 | roxville | no? lol |
| 13:56.07 | she_dyed | more like owed the government |
| 13:56.15 | roxville | ow |
| 13:56.19 | she_dyed | till I cleared with the judge |
| 13:56.33 | she_dyed | but it had engine trouble for a long time |
| 13:56.55 | she_dyed | previous owner probably got tired and decided to sell it |
| 13:56.57 | roxville | that's very smart... take someone's license so they can't get to work to earn money to pay their taxes.. |
| 13:57.12 | roxville | she_dyed, get an old subie |
| 13:57.22 | she_dyed | maybe for my next one |
| 13:57.27 | she_dyed | they ride nice |
| 13:57.37 | roxville | and last forever |
| 13:57.44 | she_dyed | thats what i want |
| 13:57.51 | roxville | i have an old '92 legacy wagon |
| 13:58.02 | Wizard | hmm |
| 13:58.09 | Wizard | i had '00 opel corsa :D |
| 13:58.12 | roxville | it's on it's last leg now, but has served me very well... for a $400 car |
| 13:58.20 | she_dyed | impressive roxville |
| 13:58.32 | roxville | remembers what a corsa looks like |
| 13:59.01 | roxville | just look on craigslist |
| 13:59.41 | roxville | now, i want a smaller one... a '97 or so impreza hatchback... they call it "wagon", but that's a bit of an overstatement |
| 14:00.26 | roxville | there is a saab built on the impreza... saab 92x |
| 14:00.36 | roxville | they call it a saab-aru |
| 14:00.44 | she_dyed | i didnt know |
| 14:00.52 | roxville | but they are a bit hard to find, still |
| 14:01.08 | roxville | yeah, GM put them together |
| 14:01.27 | roxville | it has saab's 4WD system instead of subaru's |
| 14:02.12 | she_dyed | a wolf in sheeps clothing |
| 14:02.47 | Wizard | hehe |
| 14:02.53 | Wizard | i wanted to buy UAZ |
| 14:02.55 | Wizard | :P |
| 14:03.51 | she_dyed | i'll be in and out. making brunch |
| 14:05.48 | roxville | k |
| 14:08.18 | roxville | i gotta bolt too...errands to run |
| 14:08.31 | roxville | Wizard, was sad to hear about your car and the floods |
| 14:08.43 | roxville | but good to see you! |
| 14:08.45 | roxville | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.49 | roxville | is away: Will You Be My Compiz? |
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| 14:43.28 | PrinceAMD | apt - get update DammitJim |
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| 14:58.53 | DammitJim | what update, PrinceAMD ? |
| 15:04.46 | PrinceAMD | DammitJim, nottin just wanted to see if ur around |
| 15:05.29 | DammitJim | k |
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| 15:35.29 | hendrick | hi all |
| 15:36.41 | hendrick | what is this donation thingie in 2.0? I have read a review that now the donation is not the requirement of the download but a step in the installer |
| 15:36.54 | hendrick | I do not have a paypal or like that account |
| 15:36.55 | keyra | hendrick: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 15:37.02 | hendrick | i didnt find any info on the hp |
| 15:37.41 | hendrick | what are the donate options in the installer |
| 15:37.43 | hendrick | ? |
| 15:37.52 | hendrick | invitation codes are the past I guess |
| 15:37.58 | hendrick | or? |
| 15:38.34 | evryanz | You can have invitations if you make an article about elive |
| 15:40.13 | hendrick | nice but the invitation system was for pre 2.0 releases (requirement of download), now the installer requires a donation to proceed, or the codes still work? |
| 15:40.38 | evryanz | You need a new invitation |
| 15:41.31 | hendrick | so burn CD and get a new invitation code before running installer |
| 15:41.40 | evryanz | Yeah |
| 15:41.41 | hendrick | thx evryanz |
| 15:41.58 | hendrick | i will try the EDU code first :) |
| 15:44.40 | hendrick | thx for the help. bye! |
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| 17:51.38 | Wizard | hi |
| 18:00.41 | hendrick | hi |
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| 19:39.27 | Elive_user33_en | hi |
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| 19:40.34 | Elive_user33_en | My name is Nadeem, I intend to write an article about elive on a website in the very near future, but for now I would like to try it out. Can I have an invitation code please to install. |
| 19:42.14 | gwildor | Elive_user31_en, 'try it out' by using the live CD, or by installing a dev version |
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| 19:45.01 | Elive_user33_en | gwildor, can I get the dev version at the elive wesite? |
| 19:45.06 | gwildor | yes |
| 19:45.10 | gwildor | hold on, i will link |
| 19:45.15 | keyra | Elive_user33_en: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 19:45.28 | gwildor | http://www.elivecd.org/Download/Development |
| 19:47.33 | Elive_user33_en | gwildor, lol, I suspect stable elive is unstable too |
| 19:48.01 | gwildor | well, depends on how you define 'stable' |
| 19:48.26 | gwildor | elightenment itself, is not considered 'stable'.... but it is prety stable |
| 19:48.41 | Elive_user33_en | gwildor, crashes, program interactions |
| 19:49.27 | Elive_user33_en | gwildor, so how is the testing version? crashes a lot? |
| 19:50.07 | gwildor | no, it is good |
| 19:53.46 | Elive_user33_en | I installed e17 on debian |
| 19:54.00 | keyra | Elive_user33_en: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 19:54.52 | Elive_user33_en | Keyra hmm, you always end up having to |
| 19:59.45 | gwildor | yes, she is mouthy |
| 20:00.03 | gwildor | Elive_user31_en, elive is debian +e17+ polish |
| 20:00.56 | Elive_user33_en | excellent job, it looks fantastic, but I design my desktop a little different, would you like a screenshot? |
| 20:01.22 | Elive_user33_en | I wonder how to get the fonts bigger on the mouse click menu's |
| 20:01.51 | Elive_user33_en | actually, its the same size, it just that, I have the default black and white theme |
| 20:02.43 | Elive_user33_en | These icons are sweet too. Is it possible to get rid of the multiple desktops, cause I don't like using those, I always reset it so I only have one |
| 20:03.52 | Elive_user33_en | I this machine setup with debian + e17 + bling + itask-ng, and also, debian + e16 + compositing + cairo-dock. You ever tried cairo-dock, very well done |
| 20:04.09 | Elive_user33_en | brbr |
| 20:04.15 | Elive_user33_en | when I return I will be compaq |
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