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| 08:37.53 | vallhalla80 | good day all |
| 08:39.12 | a-the-lex | hi vallhalla80 |
| 08:39.17 | a-the-lex | sup? |
| 08:40.17 | vallhalla80 | a-the-lex: hey ima good ty |
| 08:40.42 | a-the-lex | 3g working now? |
| 08:41.07 | vallhalla80 | yes indeed i am using the installed version now with 3g |
| 08:41.25 | vallhalla80 | altho i am gettting an error mesage |
| 08:43.01 | a-the-lex | you may post this in the forum. Thana will read it and fix it. |
| 08:43.48 | vallhalla80 | cool next time i see it i shall do |
| 08:44.01 | vallhalla80 | it tells me i need to reinstall |
| 08:44.27 | a-the-lex | 2it2? |
| 08:44.31 | a-the-lex | doh... |
| 08:44.35 | a-the-lex | "it"? |
| 08:44.38 | a-the-lex | whats it? |
| 08:46.23 | vallhalla80 | i am not sure when i log in i get a messae saying to reboot in to rep mode and when i do it says there is an error it dosent know and i need too rinstall |
| 08:46.38 | keyra | vallhalla80: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb |
| 08:46.59 | a-the-lex | have you did an upgade? |
| 08:47.21 | a-the-lex | you may try dist-upgrade |
| 08:47.37 | keyra | a-the-lex: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 08:47.42 | vallhalla80 | a-the-lex: it is a fresh install |
| 08:47.45 | a-the-lex | oh, and you should add volatile repo! |
| 08:48.19 | vallhalla80 | what repo? |
| 08:48.32 | vallhalla80 | where can i get info on it pleas |
| 08:49.15 | vallhalla80 | keyra: i installed it from usb stick and md5 was fine |
| 08:49.19 | a-the-lex | I'll get it for you... wait plase |
| 08:49.29 | keyra | vallhalla80: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 08:50.03 | vallhalla80 | keyra: i have it on a usb any way but thank you |
| 08:51.15 | a-the-lex | vallhalla80: you neednt argu with keyra |
| 08:51.21 | a-the-lex | its a b o t |
| 08:51.30 | vallhalla80 | ah i see hehe |
| 08:52.24 | a-the-lex | keyra: are you a bot? |
| 08:52.39 | keyra | a-the-lex: me? |
| 08:52.53 | vallhalla80 | lol |
| 08:52.58 | a-the-lex | keyra: where is your database? |
| 08:53.13 | keyra | a-the-lex: try http://google.com/linux |
| 08:53.49 | a-the-lex | keyra: database |
| 08:56.06 | a-the-lex | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 08:56.37 | a-the-lex | this you may add to sources.lst |
| 08:57.15 | vallhalla80 | do i need a key with it/ |
| 08:57.29 | a-the-lex | no. |
| 08:57.58 | a-the-lex | just be root to edit sources.lst |
| 08:58.42 | a-the-lex | just copy/paste it into that file. |
| 08:58.56 | keyra | a-the-lex: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 09:01.01 | vallhalla80 | ok all done and updated |
| 09:02.05 | a-the-lex | now do apt-get update |
| 09:02.11 | a-the-lex | then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 09:02.25 | keyra | a-the-lex: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 09:02.31 | a-the-lex | might take a whiile |
| 09:04.30 | a-the-lex | vallhalla80: are you still there? |
| 09:04.55 | vallhalla80 | a-the-lex: i am inded |
| 09:05.00 | a-the-lex | :) |
| 09:05.02 | a-the-lex | nice! |
| 09:05.49 | vallhalla80 | it didnt upgrade anything |
| 09:06.47 | vallhalla80 | i amy have to reinstall |
| 09:07.09 | a-the-lex | nah.... |
| 09:07.23 | a-the-lex | it did not upgrade a thing? |
| 09:07.52 | vallhalla80 | nope i think i am at the most resent |
| 09:08.03 | a-the-lex | cant. |
| 09:08.26 | a-the-lex | at least volatile must have upgrades |
| 09:09.31 | vallhalla80 | yes but only on stsndad upgrade noneon dist upgrade |
| 09:11.46 | a-the-lex | oh, okay. |
| 09:11.50 | a-the-lex | no problem. |
| 09:12.06 | a-the-lex | upgrade is safer then dist-upgrade. |
| 09:12.17 | a-the-lex | dist-upgrade has a chance to brick the system. |
| 09:12.20 | a-the-lex | ;) |
| 09:12.20 | keyra | a-the-lex: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 09:12.45 | vallhalla80 | i did both |
| 09:13.03 | vallhalla80 | i always do upgrade first |
| 09:15.00 | a-the-lex | if you want to dist-upgrade you neednt. |
| 09:15.46 | a-the-lex | dist-upgrade is a dist-wide upgrade. so its upgrades big brother. :) |
| 09:16.10 | vallhalla80 | i see |
| 09:18.08 | a-the-lex | if you still may see errormessages start reparation-mode and run its package-check. |
| 09:18.34 | a-the-lex | if you STILL see errors then you may post that in the forum. |
| 09:19.03 | vallhalla80 | i think a reinstal may be neded as system keeps freezing on me |
| 09:19.57 | vallhalla80 | i wil try reparation mode again first |
| 09:21.09 | vallhalla80 | be riht back |
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| 09:27.22 | vallhalla80 | ok in reparation mode it said my system is incorectly installed |
| 09:38.50 | a-the-lex | well... either try reinstallation or post your problem in the forum. |
| 09:39.59 | a-the-lex | you know, i want to make sure this proble mwont reappear after reinstall. |
| 09:41.06 | vallhalla80 | me too :) |
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| 09:41.57 | a-the-lex | this is why i recommend telling thana about it. |
| 09:42.10 | Talus_Laptop | greetings |
| 09:42.16 | a-the-lex | hi Talus_Laptop |
| 09:42.35 | Talus_Laptop | hello a-the-lex |
| 09:42.39 | a-the-lex | mybe Talus_Laptop has some additional/better idea |
| 09:42.40 | vallhalla80 | hello Talus_Laptop |
| 09:42.51 | Talus_Laptop | about what? |
| 09:42.57 | Talus_Laptop | hi vallhalla80 |
| 09:43.05 | a-the-lex | about vallhalla80's problem |
| 09:43.14 | Talus_Laptop | :) |
| 09:43.34 | Talus_Laptop | so what seems to be the problem? |
| 09:44.31 | vallhalla80 | i get an error message when i log in telling me to reboot in to reparaton mode and when i do it tells me my system is incorectly installed |
| 09:44.45 | keyra | vallhalla80: 90 % of the problems in Elive are caused by Errors on the CD. Maybe your CD or your cdrom device is to blame for that. Did you check the MD5-Checksum? Try to use your CD on another computer, and finally try to burn another CD of another brandname and in another speed. Even better on another Computer. Try to boot from usb |
| 09:44.57 | vallhalla80 | sighs |
| 09:45.04 | vallhalla80 | :) |
| 09:46.14 | Talus_Laptop | vallhalla80, try to start in safe mode and run fsck |
| 09:46.48 | vallhalla80 | yes i tryed that first all is well there |
| 09:47.37 | Talus_Laptop | without knowing the exact error i can only guess what's happening |
| 09:48.28 | vallhalla80 | that is the odd bit the error message has no info on it other than please reinstall |
| 09:49.06 | vallhalla80 | dmsg tail help at all or som other log file i can get for you? |
| 09:49.39 | Talus_Laptop | you can login right? |
| 09:49.51 | vallhalla80 | yes no problem there |
| 09:50.13 | Talus_Laptop | but you can't have X |
| 09:50.38 | vallhalla80 | i have x too |
| 09:50.52 | Talus_Laptop | so what isn't wokring? |
| 09:51.36 | vallhalla80 | all seems ok apart from the ocatonl sticking/freezing for 1-5 seconds |
| 09:51.59 | vallhalla80 | just dont get the error message comming up |
| 09:52.15 | vallhalla80 | not surewhy it was commingup |
| 09:52.33 | Talus_Laptop | ocatonl??? |
| 09:53.37 | Talus_Laptop | does anyone here knows what ocatonl is??? |
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| 11:26.03 | a-the-lex | Talus_Laptop: ocatonl might just be a type |
| 11:26.10 | a-the-lex | doh...! a typo. |
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| 11:26.25 | Elive_user21 | QUE ONDAS |
| 11:26.36 | Elive_user21 | QUE HAY POR ESTOS LUGARES? |
| 11:27.03 | a-the-lex | Talus_Laptop: do you speak spanish? |
| 11:27.20 | Elive_user21 | YEAH....AND YOU MAN? |
| 11:27.31 | Talus_Laptop | hablo un poco |
| 11:27.33 | a-the-lex | u neednt yell. |
| 11:27.49 | Elive_user21 | TALUS_LAPTOP DE DONDE ERES MAN¿? |
| 11:28.13 | Talus_Laptop | Yo soi de portugal |
| 11:28.28 | Elive_user21 | PORTUGAL...DEMASIADO LEJOS HERMANO |
| 11:28.34 | Elive_user21 | YO SOY DE EL SALVADOR |
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| 11:29.52 | Elive_user21 | PUESI VIEJO |
| 11:30.49 | Elive_user21 | QUE TIPO DE LINUX USAN? |
| 11:30.49 | Elive_user21 | TALUS_LAPTOP |
| 11:30.53 | Elive_user21 | ABLAS ESPAÃOL VERDAD MEN? |
| 11:31.01 | Elive_user21 | O ALGUIEN MAS QUE ABLE ESPAÃOL? |
| 11:31.07 | Talus_Laptop | USO mandriva linux |
| 11:31.17 | Elive_user21 | SOME BODY SPEAK ESPAÃISH |
| 11:31.27 | Elive_user21 | MANDRIVA QUE BIEN |
| 11:32.23 | Talus_Laptop | que haces Elive_user21 ? |
| 11:32.28 | Elive_user11_en | hola montando elive |
| 11:32.42 | keyra | Elive_user11_en: que tal ? |
| 11:33.15 | Elive_user11_en | elive hasta hora muy bien |
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| 11:34.42 | Elive_user11_en | lo estoy probando y la verdad es diferente muy bueno |
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| 12:15.57 | Elive_user71_en | hmhmmhmhmhm |
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| 14:23.45 | wasynyt | good afternoon people |
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| 14:39.51 | AlexAnteMachina | hi wasynyt |
| 14:40.09 | wasynyt | how are you doing AlexAnteMachina |
| 14:53.27 | Wizard | hi! |
| 14:53.35 | wasynyt | good afternoon Wizard |
| 14:57.49 | wasynyt | how are you doing Wizard |
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| 15:02.32 | Wizard | fine, but a bit tired |
| 15:02.49 | wasynyt | have you been workng too hard |
| 15:02.56 | wasynyt | *working |
| 15:04.01 | Wizard | hehe, no, but everybody from my tim is on holidays :D |
| 15:04.07 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:04.13 | Wizard | team* |
| 15:05.16 | Wizard | hmm, I'm considering playing some game |
| 15:06.44 | wasynyt | heh.. what are you planning on playing |
| 15:07.00 | Wizard | Europa Universalis |
| 15:07.12 | Wizard | conquering world is always fun |
| 15:07.29 | wasynyt | is playing hearts of iron 3 |
| 15:07.31 | wasynyt | :D |
| 15:07.42 | wasynyt | but now i have to go.. see you latert |
| 15:07.45 | wasynyt | *later |
| 15:07.55 | wasynyt | cannot type |
| 15:08.22 | Wizard | see you |
| 15:08.27 | Wizard | naaaah |
| 15:08.35 | Wizard | wants hearts of iron 3! |
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| 15:25.03 | Elive_user24_es | hola que tal yo con elive muy bien y vosotros que tal |
| 15:25.18 | keyra | Elive_user24_es: que tal ? |
| 15:26.42 | Elive_user24_es | creo que elive esta muy cuidado tiene un aspecto fantastico |
| 15:37.43 | Wizard | si si |
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| 17:14.01 | Elive_user80_en | omg i am online |
| 17:38.23 | she_dyed | hah found a workaround that i would love to post on the forum but |
| 17:38.32 | she_dyed | i didnt see a post button |
| 17:57.40 | *** join/#elive raffo (~raffo@dsl093-172-033.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:11.02 | elmo40 | lol |
| 18:11.25 | she_dyed | yea man no post |
| 18:11.31 | she_dyed | i wanted to post so bad |
| 18:11.43 | elmo40 | post to pastebin.ca and link it in the room :P |
| 18:12.39 | she_dyed | i mean I GOT powers to post and moderate |
| 18:12.46 | she_dyed | but I cant find any post button |
| 18:12.57 | she_dyed | i see thana's reply about securing it from spam |
| 18:13.14 | elmo40 | where is the forum? |
| 18:13.28 | elmo40 | I don't remember if I have an account or not |
| 18:14.54 | she_dyed | elivecd.org and clicked forum |
| 18:15.06 | she_dyed | i get the emails that say, new message in moderated forum |
| 18:15.24 | she_dyed | i could do followup replies but dont see 'NEW POST' |
| 18:15.38 | she_dyed | NEW POST gives me forum list each time |
| 18:16.31 | elmo40 | ok, where are we trying to post? |
| 18:16.36 | elmo40 | what page? what topic? |
| 18:16.41 | elmo40 | maybe I can post it for you ? |
| 18:17.10 | she_dyed | havent typed it out yet |
| 18:17.15 | she_dyed | under BOOT |
| 18:17.27 | she_dyed | so people can boot off a burn that's acting up |
| 18:17.38 | elmo40 | under Installed? |
| 18:17.53 | elmo40 | oh, booting medias? |
| 18:17.59 | she_dyed | yeah |
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| 18:31.58 | AlexAnteMachina | hey she_dyed! |
| 18:32.06 | AlexAnteMachina | Very long time, no see! |
| 18:32.33 | she_dyed | yeah man, i moved to this place then had to move again |
| 18:32.48 | she_dyed | no net there yet but been coming to library |
| 18:32.55 | AlexAnteMachina | humm... how about getting a mobile home? |
| 18:32.57 | she_dyed | now i got elive hooking me up |
| 18:32.59 | she_dyed | lOL |
| 18:33.27 | AlexAnteMachina | or a tent? |
| 18:33.37 | she_dyed | or a cardboard box |
| 18:33.44 | she_dyed | near the train station |
| 18:34.08 | AlexAnteMachina | yep! |
| 18:34.35 | AlexAnteMachina | nah... rent a train-waggon. |
| 18:34.57 | she_dyed | no one of those trailer-truck things that 18 wheeler cargo trucks haul |
| 18:35.01 | AlexAnteMachina | but one for cargo only! |
| 18:35.57 | she_dyed | better have wifi! |
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| 18:46.45 | *** join/#elive Elive_user98_en (~Elive_use@169.139.19.204) |
| 18:47.19 | Elive_user98_en | had to do some trickery to get topaz live even to run |
| 18:47.20 | *** join/#elive CiMaRRoN (~Old@r190-135-207-6.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 18:48.16 | AlexAnteMachina | humm? why so? |
| 18:48.32 | she_dyed | this laptop considered it a 'bad cd burn' |
| 18:48.59 | she_dyed | but I copied initrd and the kernel like the forum suggested |
| 18:49.15 | she_dyed | to try a USB stick, but that would not mount |
| 18:57.36 | *** join/#elive Elive_user84_en (~Elive_use@212.183.140.52) |
| 19:02.49 | she_dyed | so I boot off the initrd/kernel on the hard drive, and then boot=eli finds the rest on the CD and it loads up! =) |
| 19:02.51 | she_dyed | <3 |
| 19:04.54 | *** join/#elive wasynyt (~wasynyt@ZYKMMMCLIX.gprs.sl-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:06.04 | she_dyed | hey wasynyt |
| 19:06.12 | wasynyt | good evening she_dyed |
| 19:06.19 | wasynyt | hpw are you doing |
| 19:06.27 | she_dyed | good evening man, I'm great how are you |
| 19:06.35 | wasynyt | doing well |
| 19:07.29 | she_dyed | nie |
| 19:07.41 | she_dyed | nice* |
| 19:08.01 | wasynyt | but tomorrow is going tobe a mad day |
| 19:08.47 | she_dyed | why so |
| 19:08.51 | she_dyed | lot of work? |
| 19:08.55 | wasynyt | yeah |
| 19:09.17 | wasynyt | from 0700 - 1500 and 1800-0300 |
| 19:09.36 | she_dyed | what goes on, is there like mad testing going on |
| 19:10.03 | wasynyt | nope |
| 19:10.29 | wasynyt | just two places to work |
| 19:10.45 | wasynyt | one bar at the evening and electric installations on the day |
| 19:15.52 | wasynyt | what have you been doing lately she_dyed |
| 19:16.34 | she_dyed | been figuring out how to get online for one thing |
| 19:16.46 | she_dyed | until i was able to run elive topaz |
| 19:16.50 | she_dyed | from a bad disk |
| 19:16.54 | she_dyed | bad burn it said |
| 19:17.14 | wasynyt | :S |
| 19:19.34 | she_dyed | but i read up on some of thana's tups |
| 19:19.36 | she_dyed | tips* |
| 19:19.52 | she_dyed | the one he described wait a sec |
| 19:20.03 | she_dyed | are you a bartender |
| 19:20.08 | wasynyt | nope |
| 19:20.49 | wasynyt | 100 % certain that no-one here will guess what he will be doing tomorrow night |
| 19:21.12 | she_dyed | not stripping in front of babes |
| 19:21.32 | wasynyt | nope |
| 19:21.49 | she_dyed | you a musician!! |
| 19:22.03 | wasynyt | i cannot play any musical instrument any good |
| 19:22.22 | she_dyed | "except my organ" |
| 19:22.34 | wasynyt | :) |
| 19:22.34 | she_dyed | that is how you say it |
| 19:29.40 | wasynyt | heh |
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| 19:37.18 | willys_fueguino | hello?? marco! |
| 19:37.32 | wasynyt | good evening willys_fueguino |
| 19:37.46 | willys_fueguino | I remember you |
| 19:37.52 | willys_fueguino | how're you doing? |
| 19:38.24 | wasynyt | i am doing well |
| 19:38.28 | wasynyt | and you? |
| 19:38.50 | willys_fueguino | Unemployed :S but out of that, ok. |
| 19:39.15 | she_dyed | same here willys_fueguino =) |
| 19:39.15 | willys_fueguino | Question: elive 2.0 topac, what debian kernel uses? |
| 19:39.25 | wasynyt | none |
| 19:39.26 | willys_fueguino | heheh hi she_dyed. Thats a shame :-\ |
| 19:39.42 | wasynyt | type uname -a in terminal to check kernel version |
| 19:39.56 | keyra | wasynyt: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 19:40.06 | wasynyt | apt slap keyra |
| 19:40.16 | apt | ACTION slaps keyra, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:40.16 | she_dyed | heh |
| 19:40.16 | willys_fueguino | xDD |
| 19:40.20 | keyra | wasynyt: But... it's true... :( |
| 19:40.27 | she_dyed | slaps Keyra |
| 19:40.32 | she_dyed | one for me too |
| 19:40.34 | willys_fueguino | too |
| 19:40.55 | she_dyed | are you in the US willys_fueguino |
| 19:41.08 | willys_fueguino | Hum... I need to install an usb wifi |
| 19:41.17 | willys_fueguino | nope she_dyed, Tierra del Fuego, Argentina. |
| 19:41.59 | willys_fueguino | -3º C of thermic sensation :P |
| 19:42.06 | she_dyed | i am adding to unemplyment statistics of US |
| 19:42.28 | willys_fueguino | has a social benefit? |
| 19:42.42 | she_dyed | willys_fueguino, not really |
| 19:43.03 | willys_fueguino | :-\ Any of you remember the "water effect" for E17? |
| 19:43.10 | she_dyed | its a nicer way of saying 'in between jobs' |
| 19:43.20 | she_dyed | which one, like the ripples? |
| 19:43.33 | she_dyed | or raindrops? |
| 19:44.32 | willys_fueguino | like waves on the bottom of the screen |
| 19:44.57 | she_dyed | i think that was about e16 |
| 19:45.40 | willys_fueguino | ouch :-( |
| 19:48.28 | she_dyed | in e17 we have snow |
| 19:48.33 | she_dyed | and raindrops |
| 19:51.16 | she_dyed | ooh and I have 3 versions of snow, i put them in e17-stuff |
| 19:51.28 | she_dyed | e17-stuff.org |
| 19:51.37 | she_dyed | so you can change snow to autumn leaves |
| 19:51.42 | she_dyed | or feathers |
| 20:02.05 | willys_fueguino | that seems nice :P but I got on elive for that effect xD |
| 20:02.56 | she_dyed | wait try that screen lock, it has ripples i think |
| 20:03.50 | she_dyed | because I ALWAYS see it as 'installed' or when i type r <tab> |
| 20:04.10 | willys_fueguino | gimme a screenshot |
| 20:04.15 | willys_fueguino | easier :P |
| 20:05.52 | willys_fueguino | I'm looking for a screenshot on google but can't find one |
| 20:05.58 | willys_fueguino | (water effect) |
| 20:06.50 | willys_fueguino | http://www.google.com.ar/imgres?imgurl=http://www.oi01.de/pics/eve/0007.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.oi01.de/eve.php&usg=___tqO3T84nEARQoSl55yn1fQ6nlQ=&h=768&w=1024&sz=102&hl=es&start=1&sig2=wq1E1wVwsQSL-5AsPFgdYg&tbnid=PkJYznzAr2S0KM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&ei=RzxPTPi4H4eXcfjAgboC&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwater%2Beffect%2Bon%2Benlightenment%26um%3D1%26hl%3Des%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1C1GGGE_esAR381AR381%26biw%3D1021%26bih%3D602%26tbs%3Disch:1&u |
| 20:06.50 | willys_fueguino | m=1&itbs=1 |
| 20:06.57 | willys_fueguino | hummm |
| 20:07.00 | willys_fueguino | sry for that |
| 20:07.16 | willys_fueguino | here ===> water effect =D http://www.oi01.de/pics/eve/0007.jpg |
| 20:07.18 | willys_fueguino | brb |
| 20:11.17 | she_dyed | i hate to break it to you willys_fueguino but that screenshot is e16 |
| 20:11.18 | she_dyed | with the epplets and the graphic style |
| 20:14.26 | she_dyed | if you have Elive GEM i think that has e16 |
| 20:19.05 | willys_fueguino | I downloaded elive topac :-\ |
| 20:19.40 | willys_fueguino | I guess there most be a way to port modules from e16 to e17 |
| 20:22.31 | willys_fueguino | There's not directly. I'm asking on #e channel |
