IRC log for #elive on 20100830

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03:06.17Elive_user59_eshello
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04:01.53Elive_user94_enhello
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05:26.30wasynyt_good morning people
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09:40.31Wizzirhi
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10:19.02Wizzirhi wasynyt
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11:43.28Elive_user20_ruHi people!
11:47.35Wizzirhi person :/
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12:38.36Wizzirhehe
12:38.46Wizzirhow do you do wasynyt?
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12:42.28Wizzirhi Elive_user60_en
12:46.18tejotahey Wizzir
12:48.58Wizzirhi tejota
12:49.00Wizzirbored
12:49.07tejotalol
12:49.20tejotaim waiting for the lunch
12:49.21tejota:P
12:50.53Wizzirno lunch today
12:51.08tejotawhy?
12:52.46Wizziri forgot to get my bag :D
12:53.04tejotalol
12:53.37Wizziri have jar of lecho in it
12:53.43tejotayou dont forget your head because its attached to your body
12:53.44tejota:P
12:57.27GhostReaderare here (in that chanel) one or more of elive developers?
12:57.41Wizzircurrently 0
12:57.51GhostReader:(
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12:59.18WizzirGhostReader: Thana is offline for long time
12:59.30Wizzirbut he answers mails
12:59.54GhostReaderThana - a devrloper?
13:00.04GhostReader*developer
13:01.22Wizziryeah
13:01.28Wizzirapt: seen Thanatermesis
13:01.28aptthanatermesis <~unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 40d 20h 43m 23s ago, saying: 'elmo40, busy with the internal tools, i can't do anything until finished'.
13:01.34Wizzirwhoa :D
13:01.37GhostReaderok
13:11.54GhostReaderIs only english language acceptable here?
13:27.15GhostReaderer...
13:27.34GhostReaderIs english language acceptable here only?
13:27.47GhostReadersorry
13:27.56Wizzirnope
13:28.07Wizzirthere are many native speakers here
13:28.32Wizziri speak polish for example
13:28.33Wizzir:P
13:28.36GhostReaderit's fine
13:29.08GhostReaderA u native polish?
13:29.11Wizziryeah
13:29.23Wizziri also speak russian a bit
13:29.28GhostReadergrate
13:29.31Wizzirif you prefere
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13:30.13GhostReaderNo, i can't speak polish. :(
13:30.35Wizzirhehe, i did't expect it, don't worry ;)
13:30.56GhostReaderwhy?;)
13:31.07Wizzirit's not popular as second language
13:31.18Wizzirand it's a bit.. hmm.. hard
13:31.52GhostReaderyes, it is
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13:32.55Wizzirwhere did wasynyt go? :/
13:33.16WizzirGhostReader: i've seen french and spanish here, to
13:33.37GhostReaderok
13:33.42Wizzirmost spanish speakers are from south america, so they will pop out few hours later :P
13:34.20GhostReaderi see ^)
13:45.03GhostReaderhow in polish is "thank you very much"?  Veliki dzakuj ? ;)
13:45.25Wizzirbardzo dziękuję
13:45.42Wizziror, informally: wielkie dzięki
13:46.01Wizzirsecond for reserved for friends or close collegues
13:46.55GhostReaderi haven't polish code page :( in translit?
13:48.19GhostReader"dzięki" - in enlgish chars?
13:48.48Wizzirdzieki
13:48.52Wizzirę is nasal e
13:49.07Wizziri mean e with ogonek :P
13:49.24GhostReaderok
13:49.47GhostReaderWizzir,  bardzo dzieki
13:49.52Wizzirhmm, look for wikibooks
13:50.10GhostReaderwhy?
13:50.24Wizziryou will find these sentences with pronounciation :D
13:50.36Wizziralso omniglot.com has alot of examples
13:50.42Wizzirwith audio samples too
13:50.53Wizzirjust for fun ;)
13:51.20GhostReaderok, thankx.
13:51.34GhostReader*thanx
13:52.32GhostReaderWizzir, good luck
13:52.38GhostReadersee you
13:53.04GhostReaderin internet :)
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15:26.02wasynyt_good afternoon people
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15:51.19AlexAnteMachinahi all
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16:05.46wasynyt_good evening AlexAnteMachina
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16:26.43AlexAnteMachinahi wasynyt
16:28.30wasynyt_how are you doing
16:48.33AlexAnteMachinaeating, watchin simpsons
16:49.35wasynyt_:)
16:50.47AlexAnteMachinai was drunk last 3 days
16:51.03AlexAnteMachinanow i feel kind of sick
16:51.36wasynyt_no wonder
16:51.48she_dyedyou have to continue
16:51.53AlexAnteMachinalool
16:51.55AlexAnteMachinanah!
16:51.59she_dyedlol
16:52.06wasynyt_:P
16:52.11she_dyedi heard 4 is the magic number
16:52.16she_dyeda healing number
16:52.22AlexAnteMachinanah... 42 is!
16:52.46she_dyed42 ftw!
16:53.09AlexAnteMachinawhat means "ftw"?
16:53.33she_dyedfor the win
16:53.55she_dyedlike when watching one of those indoor games on tv
16:55.34she_dyedlike pool or poker
16:55.46she_dyedand the commentator finishes with that
17:03.57she_dyedunlike in other sports where the win turns the announcer into a screaming emotional madman
17:05.06AlexAnteMachinadoes rarely watch those shows
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17:36.45ghostreaderhi2all
17:36.54she_dyedhey there
17:39.42ghostreaderAlexAnteMachina: a u here?
17:42.56AlexAnteMachinalol... yesterday a rider, today a reader.
17:42.59AlexAnteMachinahi ghostreader
17:43.53ghostreaderam i today f rider?:)
17:44.00ghostreader*a
17:44.20ghostreaderit's my fault, sorry
17:44.34ghostreaderi'm ghostreader
17:45.21ghostreaderi come from linux mint by my wifi. it's working!
17:45.36keyraghostreader: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
17:45.41AlexAnteMachinanice!
17:46.03ghostreaderyep
17:46.10ghostreader:)
17:47.33ghostreaderbut how get it working in my elive? maybe install elive II ?
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17:49.48Wizardelive II?
17:50.01Elive_user46_enany way i can get a tsk bar on elive?
17:51.55AlexAnteMachinai guess ghostreader means elive-topaz
17:52.36ghostreaderyep
17:52.45AlexAnteMachinalol... Wizard i bet Elive_user46_en will not have any chance when leaving that quick. :)
17:52.48ghostreaderit is :)
17:53.57ghostreaderit's about  elive-topaz, of course
17:53.59AlexAnteMachinahummm probably you'd need to wait for elive 3.0
17:55.40she_dyedbut i was about to mock Eliveuser46
17:56.18she_dyedi think the standard response was 'get KDE'
17:56.28ghostreadermy wifi's problem in old kernel of elive? linuxmint's kernel is much newest...
17:56.48she_dyeddo you know the wireless you have
17:56.59ghostreaderyes
17:57.17she_dyedelivecd.org/Help/Forum has a wifi board, see if yours is there
17:57.29ghostreaderintel 2915abg
18:00.03ghostreaderi can't find useful info for my wifi in google, and in elive forum to  
18:00.08ghostreader*too
18:03.40ghostreaderAlexAnteMachina: a u American?
18:05.40she_dyedheh do not insult him
18:05.53ghostreader:)
18:06.09ghostreaderi'm sorry:)
18:08.07she_dyedwhat kernel does mint have
18:09.11she_dyedtopaz is on 2.6.30.9
18:09.45ghostreaderer
18:10.11she_dyeduname -a on the command line if you want
18:11.21ghostreader2.6.32-22
18:11.49she_dyeddo you know how to check the driver its using
18:11.58she_dyedfor wifi
18:12.20ghostreaderyes
18:12.30ghostreaderipw2200
18:12.41she_dyedwhati can do is look at my snaptic and see what was installed/ or available
18:12.49ghostreaderin elive
18:13.00she_dyedtopaz, to see if its worth it for you
18:13.12she_dyedbetter than nothing right
18:15.18she_dyedirmware for Intel Centrino wireless drivers.
18:15.20she_dyed* ipw2100
18:15.22she_dyed<PROTECTED>
18:15.28ghostreaderin my current version of elive - kernel is 2.6.30.9 too, but it's not topaz
18:15.43keyraghostreader: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
18:16.00she_dyedin  mysynaptic the firmware is 'installed'
18:17.55ghostreaderthanx
18:18.02she_dyednp
18:19.29she_dyed1.1-9elive9 it says for both 'Installed' and 'Latest firmware version'
18:22.07ghostreadercan i update my current system up to topaz or need new install from the start?
18:23.59she_dyedhmmm elive Topaz is something you buy now
18:24.09she_dyedso I doubt that upgrade will work
18:24.30she_dyedif you can grab a deb package, what does it list there in synaptic btw
18:24.44keyrashe_dyed: thanks... bot :)
18:25.16she_dyeda package for the wifi
18:26.20ghostreaderelive Topaz is not free now? 0_0
18:26.47ghostreaderwhat the ...
18:31.04she_dyedWhere you been man
18:31.15she_dyedunder a rock?
18:31.17she_dyedheh
18:33.27ghostreaderunder a debian, a mandriva, a openSUSE and etc. :)
18:34.07she_dyednow some folks they get deb and then they add the packages for e17
18:34.26she_dyedi did that with mandriva
18:35.03she_dyedthen afterwards I installed GEM and later upgraded to the Feb edition with the ecomorph on it
18:35.18keyrashe_dyed: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one
18:35.58ghostreadere17 was working with many troubles in antix and deb. :(
18:36.23ghostreaderyea, i have GEM too
18:36.32AlexAnteMachinabtw: elive-topaz is available in 2 versions: old kernel or newer kernel
18:36.46keyraAlexAnteMachina: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
18:36.49she_dyedi keep forgetting that
18:41.28AlexAnteMachinaahm??
18:41.43AlexAnteMachinashe_dyed, you keep forgetting what?
18:41.47wasynyt_is back
18:41.49AlexAnteMachinaelive's 2 versions?
18:42.19she_dyedyes, am wondering what the old one is kept for
18:42.27AlexAnteMachinaghostreader, what version did you get?
18:42.31AlexAnteMachinanewer? older?
18:42.43ghostreader<PROTECTED>
18:42.44she_dyedhe's not on topaz yet
18:43.12AlexAnteMachinahumm... she_dyed afaik it was for compatibility of some hardware that wasnt supportet by newer kernel.
18:43.33AlexAnteMachinalol.. k... no wonder wifi aint working then.
18:43.47keyraAlexAnteMachina: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :)
18:44.08AlexAnteMachinaso he's to get topaz. and I'd recommend new_kernel version.
18:44.40AlexAnteMachinawill you, ghostreader ?
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18:44.53ghostreaderdunno
18:45.01she_dyedtold him its a 'pay for' version
18:45.01AlexAnteMachinawhy?
18:45.19AlexAnteMachinalol... gem used to be "pay for" too
18:45.21ghostreadermay be back to deb& :)
18:45.54AlexAnteMachinabut you can try it as a live-system for free
18:46.13AlexAnteMachinapayment is just for install
18:46.27keyraAlexAnteMachina: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
18:46.47ghostreaderLFS - rules :)
18:47.24ghostreaderit's resolve all problem. :)
18:53.31AlexAnteMachinalfs?
18:53.35AlexAnteMachinawhat's that?
18:55.06ghostreaderhttp://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
18:57.19AlexAnteMachinaheard of. never used.
18:59.39ghostreaderit's grate, but need lot of time to build
19:01.05she_dyedwhy not get the sourceforge for the wireless and put it on
19:01.19she_dyedinstead of the whole system
19:01.30she_dyedand see if it will work
19:01.44she_dyedsynaptic gave a link
19:02.16she_dyedHomepage: http://is.gd/eLY68
19:02.22she_dyedand another
19:02.40she_dyedhttp://is.gd/eLY8Q
19:03.31ghostreaderi was trying that way. find not all sources
19:03.55ghostreader*found
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20:35.38Wizardevil - installed kde4
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20:57.39Wizardhi ragecryx
20:58.11Wizardyou were the author of smooth yellow/green beatch view wallpaper?
20:58.26keyraWizard: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
20:58.52ragecryxWizard, which one?
20:59.16ragecryxoh
20:59.35Wizardhmm, greece beatch with e logo embedded
20:59.40ragecryxyou mean that one http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcximg/4712161331/
21:00.03Wizardyup
21:00.10Wizardthanks alot for this ;)
21:00.14ragecryxi didnt take the picture
21:00.23ragecryxi made the smoothness, the color balance and the logo
21:01.05ragecryxfound the photo on deviantart
21:01.22ragecryxand then made this\
21:01.49ragecryxthis is the original http://palmix.deviantart.com/art/Greece-3-96298461
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