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| 13:41.01 | devinux | bonjour je voudrais savoir si le cd de elive est gratuit |
| 13:42.09 | get | hi devinux |
| 13:42.36 | get | i dont speak french, but i understand you, hold let me check for that what you're asking |
| 13:43.17 | devinux | hello I wonder if the cd is free elive |
| 13:44.16 | devinux | I want to install Elive, but I can not do it asks for a code |
| 13:44.28 | devinux | is normal |
| 13:44.30 | devinux | ? |
| 13:46.17 | get | mmm |
| 13:46.22 | devinux | ... |
| 13:46.27 | get | non-cost installer-modules: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 13:46.34 | get | here in topic says so |
| 13:46.42 | keyra | get: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 13:47.21 | get | look onto http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 13:47.39 | get | there explains how to get codes if you dont be able to pay nothing |
| 13:47.48 | devinux | yeah but I am obliged to pay in the end ? |
| 13:48.05 | devinux | ok |
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| 14:21.46 | Elive_user32_en | hey anybody install elive on HD? |
| 14:22.12 | Elive_user32_en | using live cd and i can't install it |
| 14:23.00 | Elive_user32_en | it ask for a module.. |
| 14:23.09 | Elive_user32_en | anyone can share? |
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| 19:17.13 | Redonx | Hi |
| 19:17.25 | she_dyed | hey there |
| 19:17.28 | she_dyed | whats up |
| 19:18.12 | Redonx | Goog good |
| 19:18.19 | Redonx | just installed Elive and love it |
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| 19:18.33 | she_dyed | wifi is working i see :) |
| 19:18.36 | Redonx | trying to get some sound working and it would be pefrect |
| 19:18.40 | Redonx | you? |
| 19:18.47 | keyra | she_dyed: If your wifi is not supported by Elive, report it at http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support to Elive by default :) |
| 19:18.50 | she_dyed | i run it liveCD mode |
| 19:18.57 | she_dyed | until some things get fixed |
| 19:19.17 | she_dyed | Redonx you a linux guy? |
| 19:19.26 | she_dyed | you know dmesg shows if audio was detected |
| 19:20.15 | Redonx | not really she_dyed :( |
| 19:20.31 | she_dyed | but if not, go to the menu>applications>sound |
| 19:20.48 | she_dyed | and choose volume control where you can select which device, it should list them there |
| 19:20.52 | Redonx | can do in terminal, tahts fine |
| 19:20.57 | she_dyed | nice! |
| 19:21.04 | Redonx | from menu it crashes |
| 19:21.10 | keyra | Redonx: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 19:21.19 | she_dyed | is this topaz you're using? |
| 19:21.32 | Redonx | like there is no gsteramer addons or so |
| 19:21.48 | Redonx | and then gnome-volume-manager can<t start |
| 19:21.51 | she_dyed | you can open synaptic to isntall them |
| 19:22.13 | she_dyed | from the terminal, try alsamixer |
| 19:22.16 | Redonx | I did insall it... doesn t help |
| 19:22.21 | Redonx | ok |
| 19:22.38 | she_dyed | does something show up? |
| 19:22.46 | she_dyed | even mentions device name? |
| 19:22.50 | Redonx | error message, let me copy paste |
| 19:23.01 | Redonx | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such devic |
| 19:23.04 | keyra | Redonx: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 19:24.05 | she_dyed | wait a sec, in my menu it just says volume control |
| 19:24.59 | she_dyed | ah but when i choose about it says GNOME/gstremaer based |
| 19:25.12 | she_dyed | you know what kind of soundcard you have |
| 19:26.01 | Redonx | yup |
| 19:26.06 | Redonx | Xfi Titainum |
| 19:26.23 | Redonx | I even installed the drivers from the website,, didn t return any error but doesnt work |
| 19:26.29 | Redonx | modprobe |
| 19:26.32 | Redonx | oups |
| 19:26.39 | she_dyed | yes modprobe |
| 19:26.52 | she_dyed | now do lsmod | less |
| 19:26.54 | Redonx | was just wondering modprobe what :p |
| 19:27.20 | Redonx | huge list shows up |
| 19:29.26 | she_dyed | were the drivers for linux? |
| 19:29.59 | Redonx | what you mean ? |
| 19:30.27 | she_dyed | the soundcard drivers |
| 19:30.57 | she_dyed | like, WIndows users click here, linux users get the drivers here |
| 19:31.14 | Redonx | I got them from creativellabs website |
| 19:31.19 | she_dyed | 2 different places or 3 if they support mac os |
| 19:31.21 | Redonx | xfi linux version |
| 19:31.52 | Redonx | needa liink ? |
| 19:31.54 | she_dyed | what do the install instructions say, modprobe what |
| 19:32.11 | Redonx | was only untar, make, make install (as root) |
| 19:32.29 | she_dyed | and they ran fine right |
| 19:32.35 | Redonx | yup, no error |
| 19:32.41 | Redonx | but no sound still :D |
| 19:33.14 | she_dyed | make install just puts int he right place if they didn't include the steps to turn it on |
| 19:33.34 | Redonx | it explains why it doesn<t work |
| 19:33.46 | she_dyed | which one |
| 19:34.39 | Redonx | what should i do then? |
| 19:35.14 | she_dyed | go through docs, there might be a FAQ or INSTALL |
| 19:35.22 | she_dyed | from the tar you got |
| 19:35.34 | she_dyed | you just might be missing a step |
| 19:35.59 | she_dyed | do you have the speaker icon on the desktop |
| 19:36.05 | she_dyed | maybe its muted |
| 19:36.09 | Redonx | no speaker icon |
| 19:36.13 | she_dyed | load it |
| 19:36.29 | she_dyed | while we're testing |
| 19:36.54 | she_dyed | its in menu settings>settings panel |
| 19:38.05 | she_dyed | its in menu settings>modules i think |
| 19:38.05 | Redonx | then? |
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| 19:38.12 | Redonx | checkin |
| 19:38.16 | she_dyed | you'll see the speaker |
| 19:38.27 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:40.50 | AlexAnteMachina | hey she_dyed |
| 19:40.52 | Redonx | mixer? |
| 19:41.00 | she_dyed | heya Alex o/ |
| 19:41.06 | she_dyed | yes |
| 19:41.08 | AlexAnteMachina | sup? |
| 19:41.09 | Redonx | Hey Alex |
| 19:41.14 | AlexAnteMachina | hi Redonx |
| 19:41.24 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.27 | she_dyed | you? |
| 19:41.28 | Redonx | ok, I did load it |
| 19:41.40 | she_dyed | there is no red slash on it right |
| 19:42.05 | AlexAnteMachina | was reading about C |
| 19:42.17 | Redonx | nop |
| 19:42.17 | she_dyed | C coding? |
| 19:42.30 | Redonx | i just loaded the module, but it isnt on the desktop |
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| 19:42.40 | she_dyed | add it to a shelf Redonx |
| 19:42.50 | she_dyed | so it will show up |
| 19:43.03 | she_dyed | hey whos the op around here |
| 19:43.14 | AlexAnteMachina | guess there is none |
| 19:44.01 | she_dyed | i have my mixer with the pager together |
| 19:44.03 | Redonx | I did add it to a shelf |
| 19:44.06 | Redonx | shelf is empty |
| 19:44.26 | Redonx | is in the shelf, but doesnt shows up |
| 19:44.43 | she_dyed | its not on autohide is it |
| 19:44.58 | Redonx | nop |
| 19:45.01 | AlexAnteMachina | its about mixer, huh? |
| 19:45.06 | Redonx | shelf is here, not invisble to make sure |
| 19:45.19 | she_dyed | yes he has xfi titanium |
| 19:45.27 | Redonx | i set up a wheather shelf with no problem using the same method |
| 19:45.36 | she_dyed | also dont forget to google titanium and elive together Redonx |
| 19:45.37 | Redonx | i really think soemthing is wrong with the sound |
| 19:46.04 | AlexAnteMachina | why not simply right-clicking the shelf, mark "set Modulecontent" and then select mixer from the list showing up!? |
| 19:46.06 | Redonx | i did follow one or two xfi + debian tutorial, no success :( |
| 19:46.40 | AlexAnteMachina | titanium? whats that? |
| 19:46.50 | she_dyed | his soundcard |
| 19:46.53 | Redonx | Creative Labs Xfi card |
| 19:47.02 | Redonx | Titanium is the serie I guess |
| 19:47.12 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 19:48.00 | Redonx | the mixer is definately on my added gadget list when I right clic the shelf |
| 19:48.11 | Redonx | but I cam<t acess it |
| 19:48.12 | AlexAnteMachina | okay. |
| 19:48.22 | AlexAnteMachina | then simply restart e17 |
| 19:49.37 | Redonx | will try |
| 19:49.51 | Redonx | same |
| 19:50.58 | Redonx | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/127/screenshotgb.png |
| 19:51.08 | Redonx | im not crazy :D |
| 19:51.27 | Redonx | shelf is middle top one |
| 19:51.32 | Redonx | and list below |
| 19:51.41 | Redonx | just to be 100% sure |
| 19:51.56 | AlexAnteMachina | oh, ecomorph enabled. |
| 19:52.02 | AlexAnteMachina | try a reboot |
| 19:52.10 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one |
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| 19:52.17 | Redonx | just for the shelf? |
| 19:52.28 | Redonx | cause ecomporh has been enabled for quite some time now |
| 19:53.11 | AlexAnteMachina | yes and no.... try disabling and unloading ecomoprph, then restart e17 |
| 19:53.24 | AlexAnteMachina | the reenable ecomorph |
| 19:53.54 | AlexAnteMachina | I would simply reboot the machine... quicker than doing all this disabling and reenabling. |
| 19:54.12 | Redonx | sure |
| 19:54.13 | Redonx | brb |
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| 19:56.11 | AlexAnteMachina | wb Redonx |
| 19:56.27 | Redonx | thks |
| 19:56.27 | AlexAnteMachina | shelf working now? |
| 19:57.22 | AlexAnteMachina | Redonx, is the shelf working now? |
| 19:58.02 | Redonx | no |
| 19:58.23 | Redonx | keyb brok |
| 19:58.26 | AlexAnteMachina | so you kept all settings before rebootin? |
| 19:58.39 | AlexAnteMachina | huh? |
| 19:58.49 | AlexAnteMachina | keyboard broken? |
| 19:58.55 | Redonx | y |
| 19:59.02 | AlexAnteMachina | rebootin fucked up the keyboard? |
| 19:59.11 | AlexAnteMachina | that is weird. |
| 19:59.12 | Redonx | y |
| 19:59.43 | Redonx | ;( |
| 19:59.53 | she_dyed | you know how to look at messages from terminal |
| 19:59.58 | AlexAnteMachina | she_dyed, have you ever had a broken keyboard by a reboot? |
| 20:00.07 | keyra | she_dyed: configurations of terminal in e17 preferences, of course :) |
| 20:00.11 | she_dyed | that beats all |
| 20:00.21 | AlexAnteMachina | yep |
| 20:00.30 | she_dyed | you dont switch languages on teh fly do you Redonx |
| 20:00.33 | AlexAnteMachina | thats for the Hall of Fame. |
| 20:00.56 | Redonx | 2 L8 |
| 20:01.03 | Redonx | :) |
| 20:01.22 | she_dyed | no thats 2 l33t |
| 20:01.41 | AlexAnteMachina | gosh... she_dyed where did you learn grammar? |
| 20:02.07 | she_dyed | from geeka |
| 20:02.18 | she_dyed | a/s* |
| 20:02.26 | AlexAnteMachina | is shaking |
| 20:02.39 | Redonx | brb |
| 20:03.00 | AlexAnteMachina | is this about a fresh install? |
| 20:03.11 | AlexAnteMachina | any upgrades installed yet? |
| 20:03.37 | she_dyed | he said he just installed with no sound |
| 20:04.02 | AlexAnteMachina | and with some other funny problems. |
| 20:04.26 | AlexAnteMachina | upgrading might fix the shelf-problem |
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| 20:04.51 | Redonx | ok, sorry about this |
| 20:05.01 | Redonx | so.. I changed the languqge and the keyboard |
| 20:05.07 | Redonx | before reboot |
| 20:05.19 | Redonx | and then my keyboard was borken, only a few keys were working |
| 20:05.35 | Redonx | and i couldn t even enter my root password to revert settings |
| 20:05.42 | Redonx | I reboot in recoevry |
| 20:05.52 | Redonx | and still no mixer, shelf is empty |
| 20:06.05 | she_dyed | but the shelf is visible? |
| 20:06.10 | Redonx | well "looks" empty |
| 20:06.32 | she_dyed | did you try ALex's method, right click on it to add the mixer |
| 20:06.43 | Redonx | yup visible, nothing canbe seen inside, but if i right click on it is see the mixer in the added gadgets list |
| 20:06.51 | Redonx | yup |
| 20:07.00 | Redonx | doesn't work either |
| 20:07.32 | Redonx | i will reboot to normal mode before trying to fix that sound issue |
| 20:07.46 | she_dyed | watch the messages scroll by |
| 20:07.53 | she_dyed | scoll lock will pause them |
| 20:08.00 | Redonx | i did, no error |
| 20:08.03 | she_dyed | if you see mention od audio |
| 20:08.05 | she_dyed | of audio |
| 20:08.11 | Redonx | can i find them somwhere in /var/.og ? |
| 20:08.17 | Redonx | /var/log |
| 20:08.24 | she_dyed | yes might be in /var/log/lastboot |
| 20:08.34 | Redonx | hang on |
| 20:08.34 | she_dyed | just hit tab after /var/log/ |
| 20:09.31 | Redonx | yup |
| 20:09.37 | Redonx | nothing relevent |
| 20:09.53 | she_dyed | no but there's dmesg |
| 20:10.01 | Redonx | yes |
| 20:10.06 | she_dyed | or syslog or just plain /var/log/messages |
| 20:10.19 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.37 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.58 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.57 | Redonx | nohing about sound nor audio |
| 20:13.15 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.23 | Redonx | not yet |
| 20:13.45 | Redonx | MAy I? |
| 20:14.22 | she_dyed | sure |
| 20:14.30 | Redonx | ok, brb |
| 20:14.34 | she_dyed | has it worked in other distro? |
| 20:14.40 | Redonx | yup |
| 20:14.42 | Redonx | ubuntu |
| 20:16.31 | AlexAnteMachina | i bet ubuntu had a different kernel |
| 20:17.27 | she_dyed | but that means there is a module somewhere he can load, he might not be loading it |
| 20:18.29 | she_dyed | if he got source from creative website, he missed a step maybe |
| 20:19.07 | AlexAnteMachina | sounds logical |
| 20:20.35 | she_dyed | i am also guessing that he is looking at the tray |
| 20:20.38 | she_dyed | not the sheld |
| 20:20.41 | she_dyed | shelf* |
| 20:21.02 | she_dyed | the tray where the postit pad is |
| 20:21.18 | AlexAnteMachina | chances are you might be right. |
| 20:21.37 | she_dyed | and he calls it 'shelf' |
| 20:21.47 | AlexAnteMachina | but the scrot doesnt show it. |
| 20:22.04 | AlexAnteMachina | the tray has a white background. |
| 20:22.05 | she_dyed | oh i missed that, didn't know he posted one |
| 20:22.08 | AlexAnteMachina | but ghere is none |
| 20:22.12 | she_dyed | ok |
| 20:22.17 | AlexAnteMachina | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/127/screenshotgb.png |
| 20:22.18 | keyra | AlexAnteMachina: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background |
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| 20:27.50 | AlexAnteMachina | seen it, she_dyed ? |
| 20:27.58 | she_dyed_ | yeah |
| 20:28.03 | AlexAnteMachina | k |
| 20:28.10 | she_dyed_ | thanks |
| 20:28.49 | she_dyed_ | i was tempted to click on the shelf in the picture |
| 20:28.57 | she_dyed_ | because I think we have the same screen size |
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| 20:29.15 | Redonx | hi again.. |
| 20:29.18 | Redonx | sorry for the delay |
| 20:29.40 | Redonx | keybaord was still broken, had to reboot into recovery to fix it |
| 20:30.27 | Redonx | and tried to installl the core2 highmem kernel... but doesn't work, I guess I ll have to install my nvidia driver again |
| 20:31.05 | she_dyed_ | where did you get it from, elive |
| 20:31.07 | she_dyed_ | ? |
| 20:31.18 | she_dyed_ | the highmem kernel? |
| 20:31.25 | Redonx | reovery |
| 20:33.15 | Redonx | I'll keep trying stuff for a little |
| 20:33.35 | Redonx | want to make this core2 thing works, then I'll figure sound |
| 20:33.45 | she_dyed_ | see what module is loaded when you boot into ubuntu |
| 20:33.49 | she_dyed_ | if yuou still have it |
| 20:33.59 | Redonx | don't have it anymore |
| 20:34.06 | she_dyed_ | no liveCD even? |
| 20:34.10 | Redonx | iirc sound works in Elive Live too |
| 20:34.16 | Redonx | oh, yah got live CD |
| 20:34.31 | Redonx | I'll try to compare the loaded modules |
| 20:34.43 | Redonx | whats the command plz? |
| 20:34.46 | she_dyed_ | oh in ELIVE live, look at the module it loads for sound |
| 20:34.48 | she_dyed_ | lsmod |
| 20:34.55 | she_dyed_ | but it lists all |
| 20:35.00 | Redonx | only lsmod, no parameters ? |
| 20:35.07 | she_dyed_ | try it now |
| 20:35.14 | Redonx | can still lsmod and output to a textfile, I am sure I dont miss anything |
| 20:35.17 | she_dyed_ | so you get familiar with it |
| 20:35.30 | she_dyed_ | you learn to look for stuff |
| 20:35.37 | she_dyed_ | lshw and pspci |
| 20:35.44 | she_dyed_ | and DONT" fgorget dmesg when it works |
| 20:35.51 | Redonx | ok |
| 20:35.55 | she_dyed_ | to scan for /audio or /sound |
| 20:36.20 | she_dyed_ | a lot of times it will mention the card by name when found |
| 20:36.27 | she_dyed_ | you can use that to scan |
| 20:36.28 | Redonx | lshw and pspci command not found |
| 20:36.34 | Redonx | checking with root |
| 20:36.57 | Redonx | nope, same |
| 20:37.24 | Redonx | but i dit save a lsmod to file, will email it to me, and do the same on LiveCD, and compare |
| 20:38.08 | she_dyed_ | now THATS a plan |
| 20:38.19 | Redonx | hehe |
| 20:38.20 | she_dyed_ | hey its lspci and lshw |
| 20:38.28 | Redonx | thanks for your help |
| 20:38.30 | she_dyed_ | it shoudl work as root |
| 20:38.37 | she_dyed_ | good luck man |
| 20:38.47 | she_dyed_ | you're learning basic troubleshooting |
| 20:39.03 | Redonx | :) |
| 20:39.15 | she_dyed_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.19 | she_dyed_ | distros* |
| 20:39.19 | Redonx | will keep you posted :) |
| 20:39.31 | she_dyed_ | there's also the forums later |
| 20:39.34 | she_dyed_ | ok man |
| 20:40.00 | Redonx | See ya ;) |
| 20:40.21 | she_dyed_ | later! \o |
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| 22:34.06 | FreeEagle | Wizard_: are you online? |
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