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03:10.39mr_chrisHi there. I just tested elive through a virtual machine to see if I liked it. I did and decided to test the installer process through said virtual machine. I now would like to install Elive on my laptop and never run it on my virtual machine again since that was only my testing environment. I gave the installer my installer module on my laptop  but it says it's invalid. Am I to understand that I have to pay again even though I was just testi
03:10.39mr_chrisng it in a VM?
03:11.37she_dyedi think thana when you contact him to explain will furnish it to you
03:12.51mr_chrisContact whom and how?
03:13.04she_dyedhow did you make the payment
03:13.09she_dyedwasnt it to him
03:13.18keyrashe_dyed: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free
03:13.19mr_chrisThrough paypal through the normal channels.
03:14.03mr_chriskeyra: I paid. Now I am being told I cannot use it. How do I go about installing it on a different machine since I don't intend to run it on the VM I was testing it with?
03:14.17keyramr_chris: test ? o_O what are you thinking' ?
03:14.23she_dyedand the code came out thru a web site
03:14.29she_dyeda webpage?
03:14.37she_dyedignore her she's a bot
03:14.59she_dyedor was it emailed
03:15.18mr_chrisRight...who do I contact to get this resolved?
03:15.35mr_chrisRight now I'm feeling pretty scammed.
03:16.17she_dyed<PROTECTED>
03:16.52mr_chris???
03:17.18she_dyed<PROTECTED>
03:17.59she_dyedmaybe the address of thanatermesis is there, he's the one you contact
03:18.22mr_chrisYes, though email. It came from downloads@elivecd.org
03:18.53mr_chrisNo, that contact info is not in therel.
03:21.06she_dyed<PROTECTED>
03:21.34mr_chrisFelt the heat?
03:21.49she_dyedpeople pissed about him charging
03:23.40mr_chrisI don't mind paying but this is ridiculous. This is how Microsoft works. I am even a repeat donator to projects that I really like.
03:23.56she_dyedit is primitive
03:24.10she_dyedoh here's the address in contacts page
03:25.35she_dyedthanatermesis AT  elivecd.org
03:25.50mr_chrisThanks. I'll contact him.
03:25.54she_dyedwait
03:26.00she_dyedhere's how it pasted
03:26.08she_dyedthanatermesis%20%7Ca-t%7C%20elivecd.org/
03:26.17she_dyedmight be the same thing but copy it anyway
03:26.42mr_chrisI'll send to both
03:26.53she_dyedok tell him the way you posted here
03:27.11mr_chrisOk. I'm guessing you've heard cases like this before?
03:27.24she_dyedi take it you havent been to teh forums =)
03:27.57mr_chrisA bit but not for this. Looking now.
03:28.16she_dyedcomplaints would be a good place to start
03:28.37she_dyedbut you'll see he mostly asks them to contact him for things like this
03:29.02mr_chrisWow, people are pissed about this in the forums. Honestly, I just want my money back at this point. This is unacceptable. I just won't run it.
03:29.38she_dyedyour call.
03:30.54mr_chrisThanks for the point in the right direction.
03:31.01she_dyedk man
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08:52.22Elive_webchat2hi
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09:09.05Elive_webchat0http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=Elive_webchat.&channels=elive&uio=OT10cnVlde
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09:32.02FreeEagleIs there anyohe online here?
09:32.07FreeEaglePing!
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11:30.59Matuxdsa
12:14.03she_zzzi am here
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12:21.59RedonxHi
12:23.10she_dyedhey Redonx i think i missed your return yesterdat
12:23.27she_dyedhow is it going
12:23.37Redonxreally ?
12:24.25she_dyedwhen I reconnected i saw you got back
12:24.49she_dyedbut by that time you quit/logged off
12:25.14Redonxgood, you?
12:25.26Redonxyah
12:25.36she_dyedso-so
12:25.52she_dyedso is your thunderbird 'online'
12:25.53Redonxnoticed that too  :/
12:26.44Redonxnot yet, couldn't find a way to import,.. I am going to manually do it today
12:26.58she_dyeddont forget the cold one =)
12:27.06Redonxhehe
12:27.07she_dyedits not just for breakfast anymore
12:30.44RedonxI blacklisted that pcspkr module :D
12:31.03she_dyedso did i
12:31.09she_dyedannoying as hell
12:33.04Redonxbrb
12:33.06she_dyedi got ifleds running so the lights show net activity
12:33.32Redonxdf
12:33.55Redonx^^
12:33.58she_dyedthe keyboard lights
12:34.02she_dyedleds
12:34.25she_dyedi have to look for something showing maybe ram/swap instead
12:36.35she_dyeddamm laptop wont boot, even after i swapped cmos battery
12:37.56Redonx:(
12:38.08Redonxwhats happens when you turn it on?
12:38.22she_dyedused to flash all leds,
12:38.49she_dyednow just one, power then stays silent when you should hear access of floppy. HD etc
12:39.17she_dyedi swapped out the CD for floppy to try out a boot manager
12:39.45she_dyedand you know its supposed to make an access noise esp for a floppy
12:40.48Redonxweird
12:41.21she_dyedyer
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12:56.50Redonxrebooting, cross your fingers... removed several old kernels, played with grub, etc
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12:59.31Redonxback and working :D
13:01.18she_dyedthunderbird? thats great news
13:01.20she_dyed!
13:01.38she_dyedthru import? or manual
13:01.57Redonxnot thunderbird, other stuff :p
13:02.44she_dyedah left the tough one for last
13:02.52she_dyedmy screen in snowing
13:02.53Redonxyeah
13:02.58she_dyedis*
13:03.13Redonxgetting better, I see :D
13:03.26she_dyedi have it so that every half hour the snow module
13:03.31she_dyedruns
13:03.44she_dyedoh no this s the desktop
13:03.57she_dyedi am letting the lappy rest with power off
13:04.12she_dyedlater i'll try with teh other cmos battery they sent originally
13:04.31Redonxah ok
13:04.53she_dyedhate to bug them for a third, it could be the HW is on its last days
13:09.52Redonxi noticed something weird
13:10.09Redonxmany files are in my /home/username/Desktop folders
13:10.30she_dyedi have 'places' there and a few items
13:10.34she_dyedwhat do you have,
13:10.38Redonxlike stuff I download fro Firefox, even though FF downloads them in /home/username/Downlaods
13:10.40she_dyeddownloaded stuff maybe
13:10.52she_dyedi think its a symlink
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13:11.04she_dyeddo an ls -l on the top dir
13:11.06Redonxhow can I check / remove it?
13:11.12Redonxok
13:11.20she_dyedjust one level higher
13:11.35she_dyedls -l will show like   beckgrounds --> Images
13:11.45she_dyedthe arrow indicates symlink
13:11.51she_dyeddo it on the Firefox as well
13:11.58Redonxyup, thats it
13:12.03RedonxDL --> Desktop
13:12.16she_dyedso its not a copy
13:12.21she_dyedjust pointer thats all
13:12.33Redonxyeah a symlink, no?
13:12.37she_dyedexactly
13:12.52Redonxnever said it was a copy :p
13:13.08she_dyed<PROTECTED>
13:13.11she_dyedright
13:13.41Redonxwill delete it, cause it just looks like it is so messy
13:14.45she_dyedthat way you only look in one place
13:14.59she_dyedyea
13:38.01she_dyedback, temporarily
13:38.14she_dyedi keep getting knocked out
13:39.40Redonxkicked from IRC?
13:40.08she_dyedmore from the shell account, a freebie
13:40.13she_dyedso i cant really complain
13:40.28she_dyedthe screen session keeps the IRC breathing
13:40.41she_dyedso i jest reattach
13:40.54Redonxah (
13:41.14she_dyedi will be testing getting gmail
13:41.16she_dyedsoon
13:54.18she_dyedhey there
13:54.37she_dyedhey thanks man i thought i was stuck
13:54.54she_dyedhave you tried launching it,
13:55.14she_dyedall i got was weechat v  balbla logo and that was it
13:55.31she_dyedi can try now if you want foldingstock
13:57.04she_dyedback in a few
13:58.59Redonxok
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14:55.36wasynytgood afternoon people
14:59.13Redonxhi wasynyt
14:59.34wasynythow are you doing Redonx
15:00.12Redonxgood thanks
15:00.16Redonxyou?
15:00.25wasynytdoing rather well
15:00.53wasynytwatching apple keynote and wondering why people would want apps on theyre computers
15:01.41Redonxbecause Jobs is very good at communicating and seeling useless stuff?
15:01.49Redonxselling*
15:01.55wasynytyeah.. i think so too
15:02.32she_dyedoh hey there wasynyt
15:02.42wasynytgood afternoon she_dyed
15:03.19Redonxknow what she_dyed?
15:03.50Redonxemails accounts imported succesfully
15:04.11Redonxdidn't had to set up anything manually
15:04.16Redonxbeing lazy is good
15:04.43Redonxis there a live keynote wasynyt ?
15:05.11wasynytit was wendsday
15:05.19wasynythttp://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1010qwoeiuryfg/event/index.html
15:05.29RedonxThanks
15:05.30she_dyedoh man Redonx thats just too good
15:05.30wasynytyou can watch it there if you want
15:06.02Redonx./path_tothunderbird/thunderbird -profilemnager so you know :)
15:06.20Redonxthen browse to the backuped folder
15:06.20she_dyeddang slick!
15:06.33she_dyedyou didn't have to break out the cold one
15:06.41Redonxyeah.. copy / paste and editing config didn't work... and was a known bug
15:06.53Redonxbut I'll break it anyways
15:07.01she_dyedlol just what i had in mind
15:07.12wasynyt:P
15:07.17she_dyedto congratulate on a job well done
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15:10.29she_dyedfinally wasynyt got my ideal IRC client AND shell account
15:10.36she_dyedso I can chat from home
15:10.39wasynytnice
15:11.16wasynytwhat was the final piece
15:11.43she_dyedthe openbsd guys who provide the free shell only had bitchx and irssi
15:11.53Redonxdid they install weechat?
15:11.57she_dyedbut irssi played dumb and woudn't connect
15:12.03she_dyedyes at my  request
15:12.14she_dyedso now weechat 3.3
15:12.15Redonxcool
15:12.18wasynyt:D
15:12.24she_dyed0.3.3*
15:12.52she_dyedreally, it doesn't even compare at all to bitchx
15:13.04she_dyedthere was a tutorial on windowin in bitchx
15:13.13Redonxspeaking of IRC client, what do you use? console and "not_console"?
15:13.19she_dyedbut the author himself avoided split windows in day to day use
15:13.44she_dyedstrictly console here
15:14.24she_dyedif i ever had to use nonconsole i guess it would be xchat
15:16.34she_dyed1 sec brb
15:17.55she_dyedthere
15:18.04wasynyt?
15:18.23she_dyedi had to pick a tint for my terminal
15:18.38she_dyedthat was a notch darker
15:18.43Redonxhow do I tell xchant that my prefered browser is firefox?
15:19.13she_dyedin prefs
15:19.29she_dyedbut I think it just says 'sensible browser'
15:19.37Redonxin xchat pref?
15:19.58she_dyediirc
15:20.10she_dyedyou'll see it
15:20.37Redonxmop
15:20.45Redonxcan't find it
15:20.52Redonxdoule checked
15:21.17Redonxnow that I use lastest FF instead of iceweasel I can no longer open link from xchat :(
15:22.34she_dyedoh no, remember the first time you open FF it asked
15:22.46Redonxi see
15:22.47she_dyeddo you want this to be your default
15:22.48Redonxlet me try
15:23.20wasynythttp://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Mozilla_Firefox
15:23.29Redonxit is alrready ny default browser
15:24.04Redonxand if i type xgd-open URL (which is the method used by Xchat) it warns me about iceweasel already running
15:24.29wasynytyou need to add a string to it that tells it to open new window/tab
15:24.45wasynytcannot remember what that was
15:25.01Redonxchecking your link
15:27.20wasynytcould be that you need to add %s to end of command
15:29.30she_dyedor Redonx check .xchat2/urlhandlers.conf
15:29.36she_dyedi have
15:29.53she_dyedNAME Open in new window
15:30.07she_dyedCMD !mozilla -remote 'openURL(%s,new-window)'
15:30.15she_dyedofc change mozilla =)
15:30.25she_dyedyou were close ws
15:30.25Redonxyup did it
15:30.27Redonxtrying
15:30.29wasynyt:D
15:30.37Redonxbrb
15:30.39she_dyedwasynyt*
15:30.55wasynyti have been fighting with that in the past
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15:31.15Redonxhmm, nop
15:31.29Redonxoh wait
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15:32.58Redonxdoesn't work
15:35.07wasynythmm what os are you runnign
15:35.23Redonxelive, debian with enliightnment
15:35.42Redonxi have to figure out whre Enlightnement keeps default settings for opening programs and modify it
15:38.45she_dyedsee if echo $BROWSER says something
15:38.54she_dyedmight just be an env variable
15:39.23Redonxblank line
15:40.26Redonxtrying something else, brb
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15:44.08she_dyedi actually delete iceweasel in my scripts
15:44.25she_dyedgot to tell redonx
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15:45.38she_dyedRedonx: if it didn't work here is an option, i run in livecd so i dont care about iceweasel anyway
15:46.23she_dyedi remove iceweasel but I symlink to firefox and name the symlink iceweasel
15:47.37she_dyedits 'ghetto' but it works
15:48.16wasynytwell that is hacky way to do it
15:50.39she_dyedit has to be there in xchat but as a sub submenu
15:51.15Redonxhehe
15:51.45she_dyedcant recall if i edited the .usrlhandlers directly
15:51.50she_dyed<PROTECTED>
15:52.07Redonxhmm
15:55.51she_dyedah but then you are back to the root of your problem, the default in the system
15:56.35she_dyedoh man 3.6.11 is out
15:57.07Redonxeven saved a .html file on HDD, openned it with firefox, made it as default settings
15:57.16Redonxworks perfect for files in the HDD
15:57.23Redonxbut xchat doesn,t give a sh*t
15:57.28Redonx:D
15:59.06she_dyedi was in advanced, it even had epiphany in there
15:59.14she_dyedmust ahve been when i also had gnome
15:59.38she_dyedwhats yours say?
16:00.12Redonxwhere should I look?
16:00.36she_dyedadvanced
16:00.42she_dyedon the menu
16:00.48she_dyedxchat
16:01.04she_dyedurl handlers
16:02.30Redonxok, Im there
16:03.26Redonxok
16:03.34RedonxI added it manually, doesn't do anything
16:03.50Redonxbut it doesn't warn me about iceweasel either
16:04.02she_dyeddid it ask to restart xchat
16:04.09Redonxnop
16:04.44Redonxthe new link I added appears in the link openiing options but doesn't work
16:05.18she_dyedis its permission executable
16:06.32Redonxwhere do I find it?
16:08.06she_dyedin the dir do an ls -l mon the link
16:08.10she_dyedon*
16:08.49RedonxI didn't do symlink
16:09.11RedonxI was hopping I could do something cleaner :D
16:09.36she_dyedyes, if you plan to keep it
16:09.52she_dyedplus easier to remember
16:10.25she_dyedso you made an html file and what, double clicked on it?
16:10.36she_dyedto see what launches?
16:11.02Redonxyup
16:11.16Redonxand it launches lastest FF, in a new tab
16:11.26Redonxbecause I manually edited the "open with"
16:11.40Redonxbut xchat still opens stuff in icewewasel
16:12.32she_dyedin advanced in irc, does it even mention iceweasel?
16:13.15Redonxit does mention !mozilla and !firefox which both launch ieweasel
16:16.07Redonxwell... I'll figure this out later
16:16.11Redonxneed a break :D
16:16.13Redonxcya
16:16.23she_dyedciao
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17:22.44she_dyedwb wasynyt
17:22.53wasynytthanks
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17:23.08wasynytwent away to look at surveilance camera system
17:23.12wasynytbut it was ok
17:23.13wasynyt:D
17:23.26she_dyedyou set it up yourself?
17:24.12wasynytyeah
17:24.41wasynytfunny devices... you can monitor the place over internet with dyndns
17:24.42wasynyt:D
17:24.44she_dyedtheres always people wanting to hire guys like you
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17:26.05wasynytwell it is no easy job.. and i am not sure if i would like to do that as my job
17:32.34she_dyedtrue
17:32.57wasynytpeople expect them to work flawlessly
17:33.00she_dyedesoecially if the place gets bigger and bugger
17:33.07she_dyed<PROTECTED>
17:33.08wasynytand over 2g connection
17:35.09she_dyedhmm considering its a security system they already have high expectations
17:35.22wasynytyeah
17:35.23she_dyedbut it boils  down to even more pieces
17:35.33she_dyedhardware, electronics, wifi
17:35.42wasynytno wifi
17:35.52wasynytand no cellphone connection
17:36.04she_dyedeasier to manage?
17:36.19wasynytyeah.. and much more reliable
17:37.44wasynytcellphone connections live more on the current network situation.. where as copper gets the speed they promise to you
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20:14.12AlexAnteeeshe_dyed, ping
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20:53.38AlexAnteeehi wasynyt
20:53.49wasynytgood evening AlexAnteee
20:56.11AlexAnteeewasynyt, i really wonder how long thana will leave elive unmaintaned.
20:56.28wasynyti have no idea :S
20:57.05AlexAnteeethere was no change since its release
20:59.09wasynyti am not sure how we could do anything about it.. it is his work after all
20:59.14wasynyt:/
20:59.18AlexAnteeeyep.
21:00.18AlexAnteeebut this not telling any news for month makes me really think about replacing it.
21:00.40wasynytyeah i agree
21:01.14AlexAnteeelast info was "we are reorganising anything... need coders..."
21:01.40AlexAnteeenot even one precise information.
21:02.09AlexAnteeethis is all too vague to me.
21:06.18AlexAnteeeI've asked him to release news on a weekly basis.
21:06.24AlexAnteeethat was month ago.
21:06.58she_dyedhey guys
21:07.07AlexAnteeeis really starting to lose faith in this project.
21:07.14AlexAnteeehi she_dyed
21:07.46wasynythopes that thana will resume, and start posting updates
21:07.54she_dyedbeen reading the scrollback
21:07.58wasynytbut now i have to head to bed
21:08.08wasynytgood night people
21:08.09she_dyedgnite wasynyt
21:08.11she_dyedo/
21:08.17AlexAnteeego ahead and head to bed.
21:08.19AlexAnteee;)
21:08.28AlexAnteeecu
21:08.49she_dyedthe last i've heard from the man is the reply in the forum
21:08.59AlexAnteeeshe_dyed, so... any news?
21:08.59she_dyedto some guy questioning the charge
21:09.06she_dyedno tthat's it
21:09.08AlexAnteeeyep.
21:09.25AlexAnteeenot one precise information about the "redesigning"
21:09.34she_dyedi thought you were in touch with him
21:09.37AlexAnteeeno even one.
21:09.44AlexAnteeeno
21:10.01AlexAnteeeim not in touch with him.
21:10.56she_dyedi've tried to keep the faith by posting on the forums from time to time
21:11.15she_dyedbut you're right, there should be even a tiny update
21:11.33AlexAnteeeyou know, i simply dont understand how a coder can realease such uninformative news.
21:11.49AlexAnteeethere should be news at least.
21:12.15AlexAnteeenot a vague "we are redesigning... need coders..."
21:12.25she_dyedyes...
21:12.44AlexAnteeecoding is based on precision. so i dont understand why he's making those vague statements.
21:13.13she_dyedgood point,
21:13.21she_dyed' Here is where its going'
21:13.33AlexAnteeehuh?
21:13.37AlexAnteeewhats going where?
21:13.46she_dyedeven a statement like that would be news
21:13.58she_dyedbut theres not even a drop
21:14.08AlexAnteeeoh... even "I just had breakfast"! would be news.
21:14.18she_dyedi wonder if the #e guys work with him
21:14.33AlexAnteeei wonder wether there really is any progress.
21:14.43she_dyedi say, ignore the angry mobs
21:14.55she_dyedgive the complaining ones their mony
21:15.01AlexAnteeehuh?
21:15.03she_dyedso they go elsewhere
21:15.31AlexAnteeei dont care about the angry postings in the forum. its not my fault.
21:15.38she_dyedno but he does
21:16.00AlexAnteeelol... sure. its his fault.
21:16.04AlexAnteee:)
21:16.11she_dyedso its taking him away from the real work
21:16.26AlexAnteeeI'm sure he knows that.
21:16.31she_dyedlet them go elsewhere
21:16.38she_dyedubuntu or pclinux os
21:16.45she_dyedthats got e17
21:16.47AlexAnteeeeven i'm thinking about leaving.
21:17.18AlexAnteeenot even my translations have been made available.
21:18.21AlexAnteeeso german users still get really buggy messages
21:18.37she_dyedeven in topaz
21:18.40she_dyed?
21:18.49AlexAnteeesure.
21:19.19she_dyedwell other people have come and gone too AlexAnteee
21:19.38AlexAnteeelol... let me guess why.
21:19.50she_dyednot that hard
21:20.11she_dyedcan you imagine over at e itself?
21:20.34AlexAnteeeyou mean using some other windowmanager?
21:20.37she_dyedthey must love to code to stay on
21:21.02she_dyedthe developers probably also have people moving on
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21:21.51FreeEagleHi all!
21:22.02she_dyedey FreeEeeeeeagle
21:22.04AlexAnteeenah... first time i tried elive was before Gem! there was lots of progress going on... it was a really living project. now its fallen into coma.
21:22.18she_dyednow thats the right word
21:22.19AlexAnteeethats whats exausing me.
21:22.19FreeEagleWhere is thanter?
21:22.28FreeEagleDoes anyone saw him here?
21:22.28she_dyedwe dont know
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21:22.45AlexAnteeehavent seen him for month
21:22.50she_dyedhe could be in a cave on Tattooine
21:22.57FreeEagleI need  installer Code
21:22.58AlexAnteeenot even gotten any news.
21:23.51FreeEagledoes anyone here can help me with an installer Code....?
21:24.07she_dyednot me, havent installed yet
21:24.41FreeEagleWhere is Wizard and the others :S
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