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| 02:24.48 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: alo? |
| 02:47.24 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: can i compile kernel 3.x in Elive 2.0? Will I lose things? |
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| 04:27.09 | Elive_user76_en | hye |
| 04:38.23 | Elive_user76_en | hello |
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| 05:17.10 | Elive_user12_es | hola |
| 05:17.24 | keyra | Elive_user12_es: que tal ? |
| 05:17.54 | Elive_user12_es | bien y tu |
| 05:18.00 | Elive_user12_es | ? |
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| 10:23.55 | Elive_user74_en | Hello ikevin |
| 10:24.06 | Elive_user74_en | needed some help about elive |
| 10:24.38 | Elive_user74_en | r u there? |
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| 13:49.01 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, yes, working on 3.0 :) |
| 13:49.18 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, you can compile kernel at your own risk, yes |
| 13:49.28 | elmo40 | risk? :( |
| 13:49.31 | elmo40 | what will it break? |
| 13:49.42 | elmo40 | many E17 modules? |
| 13:49.43 | Thanatermesis | 2.6.39 worked for me not that bad (just missing a few features) |
| 13:50.23 | Thanatermesis | but the real question is: do you need an updated kernel because some hardware dont works for you ? if not... theres not reason for do that :) |
| 13:50.47 | elmo40 | i am having difficulty finding a webcam that works! |
| 13:51.08 | elmo40 | i tried a logitech and a creative. both no go |
| 13:51.30 | Thanatermesis | ah yes... but, the kernel in topaz is pretty good with webcams :) |
| 13:51.34 | Thanatermesis | seems like you have not luck |
| 13:51.39 | Thanatermesis | have you tried with old models ? |
| 13:51.45 | Thanatermesis | 2ยบ-hand ones |
| 13:52.05 | Thanatermesis | the other day i have see a webcam that worked without problems... a totally new webcam in HD lol |
| 13:52.09 | Thanatermesis | logitech one |
| 13:52.14 | Thanatermesis | (with topaz kernel) |
| 13:52.19 | keyra | Thanatermesis: who has problems ? windows has problems, ubuntu has problems, the world has problems! but not Elive :) |
| 13:52.19 | Thanatermesis | but is an expensive one i think |
| 13:53.04 | elmo40 | this one is the Creative WebCam NX. Very old model. |
| 13:53.23 | elmo40 | i had it in Elive 0.3 days! |
| 13:53.30 | elmo40 | funny how it does not work now. |
| 13:53.41 | Thanatermesis | which looks like this one, not sure if is the same or not http://www.prlog.org/11442617-logitech-webcam-c260.jpg |
| 13:54.11 | Thanatermesis | hum, thats possible because an old driver that doesnt compile in newer ones |
| 13:54.24 | Thanatermesis | try to know the driver needed for that cam, first |
| 13:54.33 | Thanatermesis | see with lsmod which one is the needed for it |
| 13:54.59 | Thanatermesis | and so just try to compile this driver with the Elive kernel (headers) |
| 13:56.51 | elmo40 | right now i am using 2.6.32 |
| 13:56.55 | elmo40 | works well. |
| 13:57.04 | elmo40 | it does boot faster then 2.6.26 |
| 13:57.27 | Thanatermesis | with the cam working ? |
| 13:57.27 | elmo40 | 2.6.32-bpo.5-686-bigmem |
| 13:57.39 | elmo40 | no :( But the scanner works ;) |
| 13:57.45 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 13:57.53 | Thanatermesis | well, like i said |
| 13:57.59 | Thanatermesis | first know the name of the driver that you need |
| 13:58.06 | Thanatermesis | and then you can know if you can have it or not |
| 13:59.26 | elmo40 | ok. i will boot into .26 and lsmod, then compare it with the .32 |
| 13:59.40 | elmo40 | but then what, compile the kernel with that module? or load the module on boot? |
| 14:00.48 | Thanatermesis | compare lsmod when plugged and working webcam and before to plug |
| 14:00.53 | Thanatermesis | lsmod > file1 |
| 14:00.57 | Thanatermesis | diff file1 file2 |
| 14:01.12 | elmo40 | i think it was the gspca module. no .32 version available :( |
| 14:01.12 | Thanatermesis | then search for the driver of this module |
| 14:01.22 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache search gspca |
| 14:02.09 | Thanatermesis | i think that gspca is on topaz |
| 14:02.25 | elmo40 | i will figure something out ;) |
| 14:03.23 | elmo40 | what i would really like to see is my BlackBerry PlayBook as an external drive, like with windows. I would like to add/remove media from it |
| 14:03.37 | keyra | elmo40: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it. It's garbage and will only cause problems |
| 14:03.55 | Thanatermesis | no idea, have you googled for that ? |
| 14:05.35 | elmo40 | yes. no luck. some people in ubuntu say it works for them, with the latest version of ubuntu. |
| 14:05.48 | elmo40 | but canonical is 'partnered' with windows, no? |
| 14:08.03 | Thanatermesis | not sure, it shoudl be free in any case |
| 14:08.11 | Thanatermesis | what you can do is dig in to ubuntu to see how it works |
| 14:08.22 | Thanatermesis | you can do that easly installing ubuntu in a virtualbox |
| 14:08.31 | Thanatermesis | Elive supports virtualbox, not sure about the state of usb... |
| 14:08.41 | Thanatermesis | maybe doesnt has usb |
| 14:08.46 | Thanatermesis | you can do that on a testing machine |
| 14:09.07 | Thanatermesis | you can also install debian to try to make it working on a debian (updated to testing or even unstable) |
| 14:09.15 | Thanatermesis | so if works on debian, can works on Elive without problems :) |
| 14:09.21 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian repos are included BY DEFAULT on Elive :), but don't modify the repositories of Elive, that's a ugly thing that broke systems |
| 14:09.35 | keyra | Thanatermesis: who has problems ? windows has problems, ubuntu has problems, the world has problems! but not Elive :) |
| 14:10.19 | elmo40 | something to look into :) |
| 14:10.31 | elmo40 | and how have you been? |
| 14:12.10 | Thanatermesis | well, trying to continue working on elive, stressed and busy :) |
| 14:12.15 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 14:12.31 | Thanatermesis | trying to finish the internal building parts... a never-end process |
| 14:14.25 | elmo40 | stressed? about what? |
| 14:15.52 | Thanatermesis | too much things, in live and in Elive |
| 14:15.57 | Thanatermesis | life* |
| 14:19.51 | elmo40 | are you married now? ;) |
| 14:20.34 | elmo40 | women tend to put a curve in your plans... trust me, i know! |
| 14:24.47 | Thanatermesis | lol no :) |
| 14:25.02 | Thanatermesis | i think that i will never be married :) |
| 14:25.53 | elmo40 | i can connect to my blackberry phone but not the blackberry playbook :( |
| 14:26.26 | elmo40 | i know many await 3.0 I hope you can figure it out for all of us to enjoy :-D |
| 14:28.13 | elmo40 | but i must say... unless it uses very new apps or distro components (debian 6) people will complain and give you bad press |
| 14:29.26 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i know... |
| 14:29.31 | Thanatermesis | and yes, we really need a new Elive |
| 14:29.44 | Thanatermesis | and Elive could have a lot more features if there's more time, or development, etc... |
| 14:30.30 | Thanatermesis | about the playbook... i dont have idea, i dont know about it and i dont have any to play with... so it is something that you need to dig in :), when you have the info required for implement it by default in Elive i could include it |
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| 14:33.36 | elmo40 | ok |
| 14:33.45 | elmo40 | i willd o my best :) |
| 14:37.18 | Thanatermesis | is building the efl packages |
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| 15:00.02 | elmo40 | only you? no one to help you? |
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| 15:08.03 | Elive_webchat4 | hello from italu |
| 15:08.07 | Elive_webchat4 | italy |
| 15:16.02 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, not for this |
| 15:16.21 | Thanatermesis | aparently i could recive the help of princeamd for the future website of Elive :) |
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| 19:00.25 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: but that is just a website. im talking about help making the distro |
| 19:02.37 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, yes, too, but the website is also a lot of work, specially for a migration, which requires plugins, adaptation, etc... |
| 19:03.01 | Thanatermesis | and it should be really good done, check out all the actual nice websites, they looks amazing, everything calculated and good positioned |
| 19:03.13 | Thanatermesis | the actual website of Elive has a crappy template |
| 19:03.21 | Thanatermesis | almost "put your plain text here" |
| 19:03.53 | elmo40 | i suppose. |
| 19:08.56 | elmo40 | all depends on what you want it to look like :-P |
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| 19:45.28 | elmo40 | many come and go. |
| 19:49.11 | Thanatermesis | and this is a big problem :) |
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