| 00:27.21 | drizzy | hey PrinceAMD |
| 00:27.32 | PrinceAMD | hey drizzy |
| 00:27.54 | PrinceAMD | plasma, you have to type my name out completely before i can get a ping |
| 00:28.01 | PrinceAMD | doing insane work chat later, have fun guys |
| 00:29.55 | drizzy | kk |
| 00:29.58 | drizzy | have fun at work |
| 00:30.00 | drizzy | :) |
| 01:04.16 | PrinceAMD | break :) |
| 01:04.19 | PrinceAMD | sups drizzy |
| 01:04.30 | PrinceAMD | plasma, sups |
| 01:07.01 | drizzy | noda |
| 01:07.11 | drizzy | is elive still alive? |
| 01:07.17 | drizzy | the distro... |
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| 01:26.03 | sambagirl | opps |
| 01:27.11 | sambagirl | hi good evening! i am running elive live ;d |
| 01:27.18 | sambagirl | off of usb stick works magfinicently |
| 01:27.32 | keyra | sambagirl: There is a pretty nice howto written by thana about how to have the livecd on a usb stick: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 01:27.52 | sambagirl | hi keyra |
| 01:27.53 | sambagirl | thanks |
| 01:28.10 | sambagirl | keyra is there a way i can install it completely on the usb stick? |
| 01:28.23 | sambagirl | and run it from the usb like it was my hdd? |
| 01:28.29 | sambagirl | update and stuff like that? |
| 01:29.21 | sambagirl | brb |
| 01:30.56 | sambagirl | what should i set my cpu for? i have core iy |
| 01:30.59 | sambagirl | i7 |
| 01:32.24 | Thanatermesis | sambagirl, yes, see for persistence feature |
| 01:32.38 | keyra | Thanatermesis: to save changes in your live system use persitence of live-toosl, read: http://live.debian.net/manual/3.x/html/live-manual.en.html or http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb |
| 01:44.48 | PrinceAMD | <drizzy> is elive still alive?|yes it is sorry for long reply |
| 01:55.07 | sambagirl | okie dokie |
| 01:55.14 | sambagirl | this is great! |
| 01:55.15 | sambagirl | :D |
| 01:55.29 | sambagirl | i love the interface! |
| 01:57.51 | sambagirl | what i/o desktop manager are they using? |
| 01:59.49 | sambagirl | ok thanks thamatenesis |
| 02:00.34 | sambagirl | i use ubnetbootin to build this dev version i think it is |
| 02:00.56 | sambagirl | that is the linux mode? |
| 02:01.01 | sambagirl | thingy they have here? |
| 02:01.10 | sambagirl | i always loved elighten :) |
| 02:01.35 | sambagirl | do you use apt-get in elive? |
| 02:03.41 | sambagirl | jsut did my first install and it was of cinelerra |
| 02:03.55 | keyra | sambagirl: cinelerra r0cks! |
| 02:04.11 | sambagirl | heh yes it does keyra :D |
| 02:04.22 | keyra | sambagirl: :) |
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| 02:05.22 | sambagirl | are you here prince? |
| 02:05.27 | Thanatermesis | better use plain dd, is much more reliable :) |
| 02:05.39 | Thanatermesis | unetbootin does a "hacky integration", not so reliable |
| 02:05.53 | keyra | Thanatermesis: We recommend to install grub to the USB in order to boot from it like explained in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Howto/boot-elive-from-usb but if you want to use unetbootin, use the special Elive version: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/unetbootin-elive-windows-latest.exe (windows) |
| 02:06.08 | PrinceAMD | sambagirl, yes |
| 02:06.14 | sambagirl | can i just drag an app to the thing on the bottom? the dock? |
| 02:06.22 | sambagirl | wow this is pretty |
| 02:06.23 | PrinceAMD | yes |
| 02:06.34 | PrinceAMD | u can drag an icon to it |
| 02:06.53 | sambagirl | it isnt saving it there |
| 02:07.33 | sambagirl | im on a live usb though |
| 02:08.49 | sambagirl | wow this animation is awesome :D |
| 02:09.02 | sambagirl | stuff flying all over the place |
| 02:09.09 | sambagirl | does compiz work with this? i doubt it does |
| 02:09.20 | PrinceAMD | it does |
| 02:09.23 | keyra | sambagirl: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one, install the package emodule-ecomorph if you don't found it here |
| 02:09.25 | PrinceAMD | i made it to work with and without compiz |
| 02:09.59 | sambagirl | installing it now |
| 02:10.12 | sambagirl | no failed let me try what you said |
| 02:11.39 | sambagirl | how do you go to the e17 modules? |
| 02:13.06 | sambagirl | is there a software manager? |
| 02:13.10 | sambagirl | or you use synaptic? |
| 02:13.39 | sambagirl | i found it |
| 02:19.35 | sambagirl | wow this shade effect is was cool |
| 02:19.41 | sambagirl | thank god elive is still growing |
| 02:27.44 | sambagirl | everyone must be asleep |
| 02:33.43 | sambagirl | wow this illume is neat |
| 02:35.06 | sambagirl | wow it went full screen |
| 02:37.31 | sambagirl | gosh i cant resize xchat |
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| 02:42.17 | Elive_user56_en | i cant find my other conneciotn :D |
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| 09:14.57 | *** topic/#elive is Update available of Topaz: up003 || Free installer-modules: http://www.elivecd.org/codes || Collaborate: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate || Want to develop in EFL ? http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoEFL |
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| 12:54.22 | Elive_webchat4 | hi |
| 12:56.32 | plasma | hi |
| 13:14.58 | Elive_webchat4 | was wondering how elive compares with bodhi? |
| 13:30.58 | Elive_webchat4 | hello? |
| 13:31.29 | plasma | i only tried the new elive version slightly and im new to bodhi |
| 13:31.39 | plasma | so i cant really make a comparison |
| 13:31.44 | keyra | plasma: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:32.04 | plasma | but basicly elive is debian and bodhi is ubuntu, which in the end is a debian too |
| 13:32.23 | plasma | besides that they use different kernels, version of englightenment and so on |
| 13:32.43 | plasma | elive has some own fixes and bodhi propably for sure too |
| 13:33.15 | plasma | but overall there shouldnt be much differnece |
| 13:33.21 | plasma | just try it out yourself |
| 13:34.14 | plasma | as it looks like bodhi has more users and developers, which can be a bonus |
| 13:35.05 | Elive_webchat4 | i was reading on elive that it costs minimum of $15 but if one couldn't afford it that there were alternatives. It didn't say what they alternatives where. did it mean use a different linux distro or another way obtaining elive? |
| 13:35.19 | keyra | Elive_webchat4: the payment is to support the development of Elive, free software means that you are able to modify it at your needs in total legality, nothing related with gratis/cost, more info in http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 13:35.43 | plasma | Elive_webchat4: the development version you can download for free |
| 13:35.48 | Elive_webchat4 | yes, i was reading that FAQ |
| 13:35.56 | keyra | plasma: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 13:36.20 | plasma | and to use the stable if you dont have enough money or whatever for payment you can request a free key here |
| 13:36.23 | plasma | ask Thanatermesis |
| 13:36.34 | keyra | plasma: You should read this before to say something wrong: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 13:37.08 | plasma | at least thats how it used to be some time ago when i still was an active elive user |
| 13:37.26 | Elive_webchat4 | did i say something wrong? |
| 13:38.23 | Elive_webchat4 | i was reading the FAQ and wanted to get clarity on what alternatives meant. |
| 13:38.48 | Elive_webchat4 | So, plasma, you're saying that the development version is free? Is it older or newer? |
| 13:38.56 | plasma | i just described the alternatives |
| 13:39.01 | plasma | newer |
| 13:39.05 | plasma | alot newer |
| 13:39.08 | Elive_webchat4 | hehe |
| 13:39.17 | Elive_webchat4 | bleeding edge, so, not stable |
| 13:39.38 | plasma | well, its mostly about fixing bugs and making it stable, so shouldnt be that bad |
| 13:39.51 | plasma | from by previous experiences with the dev version it was quite stable |
| 13:39.52 | keyra | plasma: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 13:39.56 | plasma | keyra: STFU |
| 13:40.10 | Elive_webchat4 | lol |
| 13:40.57 | Elive_webchat4 | I have used bodhi before, but I'm not 100% in love with E |
| 13:41.26 | Elive_webchat4 | however, I broke my laptop and fortunately, a friend gave me one, but it is OLD! So, looking for something LIGHT |
| 13:41.53 | Elive_webchat4 | and distrowatch showed that elive has just released another version. I thought to try it as an alternative to bodhi. |
| 13:42.07 | keyra | Elive_webchat4: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 13:42.27 | plasma | i think it will not make a hughe difference |
| 13:42.29 | Elive_webchat4 | Bodhi is ok, but I like things working out of the box, and bodhi requires one to install everything post install. Not just applications, but multimedia codecs etc |
| 13:42.29 | plasma | but worth a try |
| 13:42.57 | Elive_webchat4 | is keyra a bot? |
| 13:43.07 | plasma | hmm i dont know about media codecs, but at least flash was working out of the box |
| 13:43.11 | keyra | Elive_webchat4: you think so? |
| 13:43.14 | plasma | yeah |
| 13:43.21 | plasma | she has some triggers :) |
| 13:43.30 | Elive_webchat4 | hilarious |
| 13:43.36 | plasma | touches keyras boobs |
| 13:43.45 | plasma | :D |
| 13:44.38 | Elive_webchat4 | where is the development version iso? |
| 13:45.08 | Elive_webchat4 | or will Thanatermesis give me a key for the stable release if I ask nicely? |
| 13:45.19 | plasma | http://www.elivecd.org/Download/Development |
| 13:45.32 | plasma | Elive_webchat4: i think so |
| 13:49.53 | Thanatermesis | Elive_webchat4, topaz works on your machine correctly and need an installer invitation? |
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| 15:26.51 | Elive_user70_en | hi |
| 15:26.57 | Elive_user70_en | I'm back :) |
| 15:27.04 | Elive_user70_en | live cd froze earlier |
| 15:27.44 | Elive_user70_en | wasn't elive lice-cd btw; another |
| 15:30.08 | Elive_user70_en | elive is using 2.6 kernel? |
| 15:30.40 | Elive_user70_en | when booting into live cd i got messages that system was using ntfs and should swap to fat. Is this something I can do during installation? or should do it before somehow? |
| 15:31.49 | Elive_user70_en | I got this old 2nd hand laptop. Its a Vaio VGN FS-FS415E |
| 15:34.06 | Elive_user70_en | Celeron M processor |
| 15:34.06 | Elive_user70_en | originally with xp but they put vista on it; ugh... |
| 15:48.49 | Elive_user70_en | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.40 | Elive_user70_en | Thanatermesis, are you there? |
| 15:58.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive_webchat4, topaz works on your machine correctly and need an installer invitation? |
| 15:58.58 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user70_en, |
| 15:59.27 | Elive_user70_en | Thanatermesis, yes, it seems to work. Haven't tested it fully yet. |
| 16:00.03 | Elive_user70_en | Do you know my machine? it should work? |
| 16:00.13 | Elive_user70_en | I heard Sony is not so good for Linux |
| 16:00.53 | Elive_user70_en | I'd like to install it and give it a real go |
| 16:01.40 | Thanatermesis | i dont know your machine :) |
| 16:01.44 | Thanatermesis | just see if all works |
| 16:01.48 | Thanatermesis | wifi, graphical system, etc |
| 16:02.00 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user70_en, give me your email |
| 16:02.28 | Elive_user70_en | livingdaylight@gmail.com |
| 16:02.40 | Thanatermesis | check your email and use it during the installation process |
| 16:03.26 | Elive_user70_en | Thanatermesis, thank you very much |
| 16:03.50 | Elive_user70_en | regarding the ntfs message that came up: how do I change it to fat32? |
| 16:05.11 | Thanatermesis | well, you can't |
| 16:05.16 | Thanatermesis | the best is to erradicate windows from the earth :) |
| 16:05.31 | Thanatermesis | its only useful for give you headaches |
| 16:05.44 | Elive_user70_en | :D |
| 16:06.06 | Elive_user70_en | So, if I install elive then that will take care of itself? cool |
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| 17:21.27 | Elive_user70_en | Thanatermesis, did you send it? |
| 17:21.48 | Thanatermesis | yes, check your email Elive_user70_en |
| 17:22.00 | Elive_user70_en | i did, that's why i ask |
| 17:22.14 | Elive_user70_en | livingdaylight@gmail.com |
| 17:22.26 | Elive_user70_en | i'll check spam folder |
| 17:22.29 | Thanatermesis | mmh, sometimes this email system takes some delay :/ |
| 17:22.39 | Thanatermesis | the hosting server is sometimes slow sending emails |
| 17:22.40 | keyra | Elive_user70_en: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils |
| 17:22.41 | Elive_user70_en | ok, strange |
| 17:22.50 | Elive_user70_en | just checking |
| 17:23.18 | Thanatermesis | f0095d535787134f6ef6069de1ec3817 Elive_user70_en use this one while you receive the email |
| 17:28.41 | Thanatermesis | looks like we have a problem again with the email sending... i will report it to the hosting later |
| 17:46.36 | Elive_user70_en | elive needs clock set and installer is crashing |
| 17:51.13 | Elive_user70_en | where do we set the clock? |
| 17:51.19 | Elive_user70_en | I don't even see a clock/calendar |
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| 18:02.26 | drizzy | hey plasma |
| 18:06.31 | Elive_user70_en | can someone help me, please? |
| 18:06.38 | Elive_user70_en | can't get elive installer going |
| 18:06.50 | Elive_user70_en | wants to set the clock and then crashes |
| 18:07.23 | Elive_user70_en | where can i set the clock and calendar so the installer doesn't complain and crash |
| 18:07.57 | Thanatermesis | try it in the applications preferences |
| 18:08.02 | Thanatermesis | somwhere you can set the clock |
| 18:08.10 | Thanatermesis | if not, you need to do it in your BIOS |
| 18:08.16 | Thanatermesis | which google can help with that :) |
| 18:08.47 | Thanatermesis | open a terminal and run "date", see if it says the correct date, if not, you need to fix it |
| 18:10.07 | Elive_user70_en | Fri Jun 28 07:08:33 EDT 2013 |
| 18:10.11 | Elive_user70_en | seems good |
| 18:12.12 | Elive_user70_en | f0095d535787134f6ef6069de1ec3817 Thanatermesis is that the identifier module? |
| 18:12.21 | Elive_user70_en | installer seems to be working, strangely |
| 18:16.28 | Thanatermesis | this is the invitation to use when it requrest you the installer module |
| 18:16.37 | Thanatermesis | free* invitation |
| 18:16.50 | keyra | Thanatermesis: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 18:28.47 | Elive_user70_en | what difference between iceweasal and firefox? |
| 18:29.40 | Elive_user70_en | ff lets me hide the File/Edit/View/History/Bookmarks/tool.s/Help panel. Can't seem to do that with iceW |
| 18:35.37 | Thanatermesis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project |
| 18:35.43 | Thanatermesis | why iceweasel name ^ |
| 18:35.51 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
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| 20:43.53 | livingdaylight | how do I add a panel on the bottom to add volume and workspaces |
| 20:46.00 | drizzy | add a shelf |
| 20:46.25 | drizzy | hard to describe, i'm on osx right now, not e |
| 20:50.17 | livingdaylight | there seem to be 6 shelves by default, but can only find 1 |
| 20:50.43 | livingdaylight | the wireless and power app in the bottom right corner |
| 20:50.55 | livingdaylight | i don't find docky's useful personally |
| 20:51.57 | livingdaylight | i don't see how workspaces on the screen realestate helps, because if an application is open and taking up the screen it covers up the clock and the workspaces and anything else. Clock, workspaces should be in system tray in panel, either top or bottom |
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