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| 10:55.22 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, howdy |
| 11:23.03 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: |
| 11:23.16 | Thanatermesis | already installed 2.2.6 ? :) |
| 11:23.43 | elmo40 | me? no. I haven't even downloaded it... my wife has used my bandwidth for the month already! |
| 11:24.00 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 11:24.02 | elmo40 | I need to 'borrow' the neighbours wifi and grab 2.2.6 ;-) |
| 11:24.10 | Thanatermesis | you need to use zsync for save bandwitch in downloads |
| 11:24.29 | Thanatermesis | it will save you 85 % of the data required to download the isos |
| 11:24.39 | elmo40 | really? |
| 11:24.43 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, put a quota to your wife :) |
| 11:24.48 | elmo40 | I wish. |
| 11:24.57 | Thanatermesis | vnstat is very nice to visualize usage in terminal |
| 11:44.24 | Thanatermesis | blerf |
| 11:44.31 | Thanatermesis | im really not motivated today to write an announcement |
| 11:44.42 | Thanatermesis | my head still zombie |
| 11:44.46 | Thanatermesis | had a cold recently |
| 11:51.15 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, can you help ? :) |
| 11:51.15 | Thanatermesis | http://piratepad.net/PGtdlO82q8 |
| 11:51.35 | Thanatermesis | also, how this announcement sounds ? it is good enough ? it lacks anything ? |
| 11:52.17 | Thanatermesis | see that distrowatch wants them to be very "correct", otherwise he won't publish it |
| 11:56.20 | elmo40 | do I just edit it? or need to login? |
| 11:58.25 | elmo40 | ok, I edited it |
| 11:58.42 | elmo40 | it looks a little thin on details. where is this going to be used? blog? |
| 12:02.32 | Thanatermesis | release announcement |
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| 12:19.55 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, i updated a few bits to the doc, make a look, it is correct? |
| 12:36.41 | elmo40 | I wouldn't add 'many' |
| 12:36.45 | elmo40 | to bugs |
| 12:36.57 | Thanatermesis | ok, done |
| 12:37.07 | elmo40 | 'like' is an unprofessional word |
| 12:37.37 | elmo40 | you are simply listing some of the bugs fixed. don't need to add 'like' when it is a list |
| 12:38.05 | Thanatermesis | mmh ok |
| 12:38.09 | elmo40 | you don't like my '... and much more' ? |
| 12:38.40 | Thanatermesis | i thought that "..." was better in the end, but then i removed it again |
| 12:38.46 | elmo40 | many places do that. it looks decent, clean, simple. it gets the point across |
| 12:38.46 | Thanatermesis | so.. with "..." or without, better? |
| 12:38.58 | elmo40 | I liked my way ;-) |
| 12:39.07 | elmo40 | on their languageā¦ and much more |
| 12:39.17 | Thanatermesis | so, like this ? |
| 12:39.56 | elmo40 | the ! means it is a superb idea or great concept. it is not really a good use of it in listing bug fixes :-P |
| 12:40.14 | Thanatermesis | ok lol |
| 12:40.16 | Thanatermesis | right |
| 12:40.38 | Thanatermesis | ah btw |
| 12:40.47 | Thanatermesis | There's also other few texts that we improved yesterday |
| 12:40.50 | Thanatermesis | want to make a look ? |
| 12:41.09 | elmo40 | surde |
| 12:41.24 | Thanatermesis | remember me your email, ill send you a "demo example" |
| 12:42.00 | Thanatermesis | these texts (more exactly the 3-columns thingy) will be used for all the releases notifications |
| 12:42.02 | Thanatermesis | email template |
| 12:42.18 | Thanatermesis | it promotes forums, bugs, but specially the Collaborators page |
| 12:42.50 | Thanatermesis | check your email elmo40, this is a copy of how it looks like actually |
| 12:44.09 | elmo40 | did you want me to edit this? |
| 12:44.27 | Thanatermesis | if you think that these texts could be improved and/or more motivating, yes :) |
| 12:44.51 | elmo40 | ok, in an hour or so. |
| 12:45.02 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, if you change them, just copy-paste them in the piratepad site, will be easy (also i need to make sure that the final size looks equal among columns) |
| 12:45.07 | Thanatermesis | ok np :) |
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| 12:58.10 | Elive_user6_en | Hi |
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| 12:59.42 | Thanatermesis | mwarning PrinceAMD |
| 12:59.43 | Elive_user6_en | I like to try the new beta installer, where I can found him? |
| 12:59.43 | superkeyra | Elive_user6_en, open a terminal and run "apug", then run "sudo eliveinstaller --mode-experimental", if you see anything going wrong tell it to Thanatermesis from this chat, he is here for fix your problems and improve the installer! |
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| 12:59.51 | PrinceAMD | Thanatermesis, !!!!!!!!! |
| 12:59.55 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, you should update your version of Elive first |
| 12:59.58 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, use 2.2.6 instead |
| 13:00.15 | Elive_user6_en | Iam here withe LIVE-Elive Beta 3 |
| 13:00.16 | PrinceAMD | Elive_user6_en, 2.2.6 all you need to do is click the installer icon |
| 13:00.16 | superkeyra | PrinceAMD, open a terminal and run "apug", then run "sudo eliveinstaller --mode-experimental", if you see anything going wrong tell it to Thanatermesis from this chat, he is here for fix your problems and improve the installer! |
| 13:00.34 | PrinceAMD | superkeyra, spank! |
| 13:00.50 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, this version is too old, there's thousands of improvings included in the last 2.2.6 that makes you install correctly |
| 13:00.56 | Thanatermesis | older than 2.2.6 is not a reliable install |
| 13:01.28 | Elive_user6_en | Nope, sorry, is the fresh ultra new Beta 3.0 |
| 13:03.03 | Elive_user6_en | come frome here: http://www.elivecd.org/download/beta/ |
| 13:03.08 | PrinceAMD | is there a bBeta 3.0? |
| 13:03.15 | Elive_user6_en | Jep |
| 13:03.32 | Elive_user6_en | Upsss...sorry..is the 2.2.6 |
| 13:03.48 | PrinceAMD | Version: 2.2.6 |
| 13:03.48 | PrinceAMD | 1.9 GB |
| 13:03.52 | Elive_user6_en | jep |
| 13:04.03 | Elive_user6_en | via USB-Flash |
| 13:04.11 | Elive_user6_en | function ist very good |
| 13:04.24 | Elive_user6_en | mucht better mas my Old purcased Elive |
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| 13:06.33 | Elive_user6_en | I like to try the real installation on HDD |
| 13:06.45 | Elive_user6_en | Normal I work with Bodhi |
| 13:07.27 | Elive_user_en_56 | How to pay for the install module in order to install it to hdd? |
| 13:07.54 | Elive_user6_en | Much time ago for receive the Key |
| 13:08.56 | Elive_user6_en | Only with Key was the final installation with Elive possible |
| 13:09.37 | Elive_user_en_56 | Sorry, but where is the key? |
| 13:10.17 | Elive_user6_en | The Registration-Key was needet for the Old Elive-OS |
| 13:10.41 | Thanatermesis | PrinceAMD, elmo40 : is this sentence correct? |
| 13:10.43 | Thanatermesis | The Elive installer offers a unique experience, fully automated or giving you a graphical, friendly and guided way to install. |
| 13:10.43 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, open a terminal and run "apug", then run "sudo eliveinstaller --mode-experimental", if you see anything going wrong tell it to Thanatermesis from this chat, he is here for fix your problems and improve the installer! |
| 13:10.43 | Thanatermesis | It also allows you to convert a previous Linux system to Elive or migrate old versions of Elive saving all your configurations! |
| 13:10.51 | Elive_user6_en | I was sending the fingerprint and recieving the Key after purcasing |
| 13:11.07 | Thanatermesis | wel..: http://piratepad.net/PGtdlO82q8 |
| 13:11.27 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user6_en> Upsss...sorry..is the 2.2.6 |
| 13:11.30 | Thanatermesis | i dont think so |
| 13:11.39 | Thanatermesis | run this command: cat /etc/elive-version | elivepaste |
| 13:11.55 | Elive_user6_en | In the Window after activation Installler: An experimental version of this installer is available! |
| 13:11.55 | Elive_user6_en | If you want to try it, connect to our chat and ask for the beta installer. |
| 13:11.55 | Elive_user6_en | The chat is in the second icon of your dock. |
| 13:11.55 | superkeyra | Elive_user6_en, open a terminal and run "apug", then run "sudo eliveinstaller --mode-experimental", if you see anything going wrong tell it to Thanatermesis from this chat, he is here for fix your problems and improve the installer! |
| 13:12.23 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_56, just run the installer, you should not require any key to install the beta version |
| 13:12.24 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, open a terminal and run "apug", then run "sudo eliveinstaller --mode-experimental", if you see anything going wrong tell it to Thanatermesis from this chat, he is here for fix your problems and improve the installer! |
| 13:12.49 | Elive_user6_en | apug is running including Update |
| 13:14.23 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, ok, continue with the install if you wish, but i have advert you that only 2.2.6 can install Elive correctly |
| 13:14.24 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 13:14.32 | Thanatermesis | maybe you are lucky |
| 13:16.32 | Elive_user6_en | Well, then please tell me the Standart-Installer-Way....Upgrade is finish with one Error-message in Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 13:17.22 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 13:17.30 | Thanatermesis | there's too many things updated in the new versions |
| 13:17.31 | Elive_user6_en | To bad english? |
| 13:17.39 | Thanatermesis | so the best that i can suggest you is to use the new 2.2.6 version |
| 13:17.47 | Thanatermesis | which version are you using ? |
| 13:18.38 | Elive_user6_en | uname -a Linux Elive-08996 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 13:19.11 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, cat /etc/elive-version | grep version | elivepaste |
| 13:20.22 | Elive_user6_en | [(piped)] http://pastebin.com/WNL2mbx4 |
| 13:20.22 | superkeyra | Elive_user6_en in elive you can do things like "dmesg | tail | elivepaste" |
| 13:21.34 | Elive_user6_en | [(piped)] http://pastebin.com/g99kjPbV |
| 13:21.35 | superkeyra | Elive_user6_en in elive you can do things like "dmesg | tail | elivepaste" |
| 13:22.10 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, react to /how.*know.*elive.*version/ with %{who} to show us your version of Elive you can do: cat /etc/elive-version | grep elive-version | elivepaste |
| 13:22.10 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, Ok, I'll start reacting to /how.*know.*elive.*version/ |
| 13:22.11 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, I'll react to /how.*know.*elive.*version/ with %{who} to show us your version of Elive you can do: cat /etc/elive-version | grep elive-version | elivepaste (100%) |
| 13:22.18 | Thanatermesis | how to know what version of Elive im using ? |
| 13:22.22 | Thanatermesis | how to know what version of elive im using ? |
| 13:22.33 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 13:23.05 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, see, you are using 2.2.2 :) that is prehistorik |
| 13:23.46 | Elive_user6_en | Hoba...is downloadet from the elive.org as new beta for USB |
| 13:24.18 | Elive_user6_en | Well. i will try it again and so: see you later, have much thanks.... |
| 13:24.36 | Thanatermesis | how to know what version of elive im using ? |
| 13:24.36 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis to show us your version of Elive you can do: cat /etc/elive-version | grep elive-version | elivepaste -d |
| 13:24.41 | Thanatermesis | nice :) |
| 13:25.07 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user6_en, mmh, when you did that? please check if the link points now to the 2.2.6 version (number appears before to click) |
| 13:25.20 | Thanatermesis | if 2.2.6, re-download and put the new one in the usb :) |
| 13:25.31 | Elive_user6_en | Jep |
| 13:26.03 | Elive_user6_en | $ (piped) |
| 13:26.03 | Elive_user6_en | elive-version: 2.2.2 |
| 13:26.15 | Elive_user6_en | Function.... |
| 13:26.32 | Elive_user6_en | ciao and thanks again... |
| 13:29.14 | Thanatermesis | going to publish the announcement... |
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| 13:33.28 | Thanatermesis | http://www.elivecd.org/news/releases/beta/elive-2-2-6-beta-released/ |
| 13:33.29 | Thanatermesis | :) |
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| 14:14.50 | qstpp | can anyone tell me is elive still pay-to-install distro? |
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| 14:22.33 | she_dyed | hey there Elive_user_es_20, you know you can change your nick |
| 14:23.17 | she_dyed | nombre |
| 14:26.53 | Elive_user_es_20 | me thana :) |
| 14:27.01 | Elive_user_es_20 | testing & improving installer |
| 14:27.58 | she_dyed | how do i make that piratepad come up, or you invite mme |
| 14:28.22 | Elive_user_es_20 | sorry, not gotcha |
| 14:28.52 | she_dyed | mmade some slight improvements, to NTFS warning |
| 14:29.18 | she_dyed | see if I've saved them correctly |
| 14:29.34 | Elive_user_es_20 | piratepad is realtime |
| 14:29.40 | Elive_user_es_20 | saving is auto |
| 14:29.44 | Elive_user_es_20 | all is in sync |
| 14:30.00 | Thanatermesis | which ntfs she_dyed ? |
| 14:31.36 | she_dyed | under warnings |
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| 14:31.49 | she_dyed | under warnings |
| 14:31.57 | Thanatermesis | oh, you are talking about the rest of the news... |
| 14:32.32 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 14:32.36 | Thanatermesis | what are you talking about ? lol |
| 14:32.38 | Thanatermesis | confused |
| 14:32.40 | Thanatermesis | link ? |
| 14:32.56 | she_dyed | ok 1 sec |
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| 14:36.23 | betrayd | i think after the keyring, my desktop froze |
| 14:36.36 | betrayd | but i think it's chromium |
| 14:37.35 | betrayd | i may have to kill/restart desktop |
| 14:37.52 | betrayd | am on my laptop now |
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| 14:38.37 | Thanatermesis | betrayd, which version of Elive ? |
| 14:38.51 | betrayd | this is 2.2.5 |
| 14:38.56 | betrayd | beta |
| 14:39.03 | Elive_user_de_89 | Well, I am back with the new Elive 2.2.6 and the installer is in the beginnig full function. |
| 14:39.07 | betrayd | on a stick |
| 14:39.34 | betrayd | ok, did it ask for keyring |
| 14:41.03 | Elive_user_de_89 | Monday I will try a real installation on my sda7 and then I come back here in this chat.... |
| 14:41.26 | Elive_user_de_89 | Thank you all fpr your helping and I wish all a nice Weekend |
| 14:41.48 | Elive_user_de_89 | Bye Bye |
| 14:44.20 | betrayd | You're welcome! =) |
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| 14:45.30 | Elive_user_pt_25 | Made the contribution. Where is the install code? |
| 14:47.33 | Thanatermesis | betrayd, which keyring ? sorry i dont understand :) |
| 14:47.36 | Thanatermesis | any screenshot ? |
| 14:47.43 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, how to screenshots |
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| 18:05.52 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, how to know the version of elive Elive_user_en_53 |
| 18:05.52 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis to show us your version of Elive you can do: cat /etc/elive-version | grep elive-version | elivepaste -d |
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| 18:23.55 | Elive_user50_en | how to install Elive? |
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| 18:33.02 | Elive_user50_en | how to install Elive over terminology? |
| 18:36.34 | Elive_user50_en | The Elive installer for higher versions than Topaz is not yet ready, please be patient, we are reprogramming it |
| 18:36.40 | Elive_user50_en | how? |
| 18:40.32 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user50_en, what?? |
| 18:40.42 | Thanatermesis | you are using a very old version of Elive |
| 18:40.56 | Thanatermesis | download the last 2.2.6 and you could install :) |
| 18:40.59 | Elive_user50_en | I can't install |
| 18:41.28 | Elive_user50_en | maybe old.. |
| 18:41.40 | Elive_user50_en | free? |
| 18:41.47 | Elive_user50_en | or need key? |
| 18:43.07 | Thanatermesis | free |
| 18:43.10 | Thanatermesis | but you need 2.2.6 :) |
| 18:43.23 | Elive_user50_en | where? |
| 18:43.33 | Elive_user50_en | please link.. |
| 18:43.40 | Thanatermesis | http://elivecd.org/download/beta |
| 18:43.57 | Elive_user50_en | beta... |
| 18:44.05 | Elive_user50_en | thanx |
| 18:44.07 | Elive_user50_en | but |
| 18:44.36 | Elive_user50_en | how I can get stable, but free?)) |
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| 18:45.51 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user50_en, you can install the stable free too |
| 18:45.51 | Thanatermesis | but |
| 18:45.58 | Thanatermesis | the last stable version is VERY old |
| 18:46.08 | Thanatermesis | so its much better if you install the beta instead :) |
| 18:46.21 | Thanatermesis | the stable is more ready for end-use, but last beta is newer |
| 18:46.24 | Thanatermesis | your choice |
| 18:47.29 | Elive_user50_en | thank you |
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| 18:47.38 | she_dyed | oh, Thanatermesis if i want to purchase |
| 18:47.47 | she_dyed | is it installer? |
| 18:48.44 | she_dyed | installer module |
| 18:48.51 | Elive_user50_en | one question |
| 18:48.55 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, where? stable or beta, she_dyed ? |
| 18:49.03 | Thanatermesis | shot! Elive_user50_en |
| 18:49.09 | Elive_user50_en | stable version not free? |
| 18:49.14 | she_dyed | because so much has stayed the same |
| 18:49.25 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user50_en, yes, free |
| 18:49.37 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, i dont understand :) |
| 18:49.38 | Elive_user50_en | and KEY? |
| 18:49.53 | she_dyed | nvm |
| 18:49.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user50_en, i dont understand :) |
| 18:50.00 | Thanatermesis | dont understand today |
| 18:50.09 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user50_en, this? http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 18:51.24 | she_dyed | right now i'm on the beta. |
| 18:51.28 | Elive_user50_en | few week ago, I downloaded stable version, but I don't have install, distr say: need the key |
| 18:51.34 | she_dyed | and it all works \o/ |
| 18:51.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user50_en, ok so, check this: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 18:52.02 | she_dyed | oh, he got the ancient stable |
| 18:52.11 | Thanatermesis | no new stable, yet :) |
| 18:52.33 | Elive_user50_en | yes, I want ancient) |
| 18:52.48 | Elive_user50_en | I open the link |
| 18:52.54 | Elive_user50_en | try it |
| 18:54.23 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, new beta much improved? :) |
| 18:54.51 | she_dyed | new huh |
| 18:55.06 | she_dyed | wait think i still have 2.2.5 |
| 18:55.45 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, better 2.2.6 |
| 18:55.51 | Thanatermesis | specially for install |
| 18:56.07 | she_dyed | with new eltrans, or piratepad =) |
| 18:57.02 | Thanatermesis | much more things :) in installer and other tools that depends by installer |
| 18:57.21 | she_dyed | you should give me time to enjoy 2.2.5 |
| 18:58.18 | she_dyed | here Thana let me describe to you what goes on |
| 18:59.11 | she_dyed | so I boot 2.2.5 on a stick and go do some eltrans work |
| 18:59.38 | she_dyed | picked 'warning messages' to fix/complete |
| 19:00.31 | she_dyed | and make come changes, but since I powered down |
| 19:00.51 | she_dyed | I try to resume my eltrans work |
| 19:00.54 | Thanatermesis | yes, do a few changes first for test |
| 19:01.14 | Thanatermesis | powered on / resume ? |
| 19:01.27 | Thanatermesis | well, if you don't commit (send) anything and you reboot hte live system, your changes are gone |
| 19:01.49 | she_dyed | send, where it asks for password |
| 19:01.54 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 19:02.08 | she_dyed | ok, i understand now |
| 19:02.18 | she_dyed | 'commit' |
| 19:03.40 | she_dyed | my pc can save my work, but commit saves it to overall system |
| 19:03.48 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, if there's something not enough intuitive / clear in eltrans tell me, because its important userfriendlyness |
| 19:03.48 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 19:03.56 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 19:04.12 | she_dyed | sre i will tell you |
| 19:04.12 | Thanatermesis | but stills better to commit as much as you can (to not conflict with other possible translators) |
| 19:04.20 | she_dyed | sure^ |
| 19:04.33 | she_dyed | ah of course |
| 19:07.23 | she_dyed | the one where you said like give it 20 mins. |
| 19:08.08 | she_dyed | to lessen conflicts |
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| 19:10.13 | qstpp | is elive still pay-to-install distro? |
| 19:10.35 | Thanatermesis | qstpp, not forced |
| 19:10.59 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: you mean it's donation-based now? |
| 19:11.21 | Thanatermesis | its donation based, but not forced, there's alternatives for who cannot pay |
| 19:11.37 | Thanatermesis | thats for the stable, for the beta you simply dont need to pay (just donation-suggested) |
| 19:12.01 | she_dyed | the beta is really good even multimedia |
| 19:12.34 | Thanatermesis | and its not yet finished she_dyed :) |
| 19:12.43 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: does that mean once beta becomes new stable, it'll be like current stable, payment-wise? |
| 19:12.46 | Thanatermesis | this new stable is taking too long, but the result will be... damn |
| 19:12.51 | she_dyed | thanks for not changing or reducing functionalities Thana |
| 19:13.16 | Thanatermesis | qstpp, right, but by other side the payment is not forced for who cannot afford it, there's alternatives, for example check this: http://www.elivecd.org/codes/ |
| 19:13.41 | Thanatermesis | also, if the user that want to install lives in a poor country, the installer detects it and dont ask for payment |
| 19:13.53 | Thanatermesis | mmh, id ont remember if theres other things apart of these 2 ones |
| 19:14.09 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, growing, more exactly :) |
| 19:14.21 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, but is not hard to keep all the ton of unique features |
| 19:14.24 | she_dyed | nice! |
| 19:14.31 | Thanatermesis | its a lot of never-ending work |
| 19:14.43 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: that's an interesting concept, both things |
| 19:15.45 | Thanatermesis | we still living in a capitalist world so... :) |
| 19:16.13 | she_dyed | think i'll d/load or torrent 2.2.6 beta |
| 19:16.40 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: dpn't get me wrong, I have absolutetly nothing against being paid for your work. nice it's not forced though |
| 19:16.42 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, use zsync :) |
| 19:17.17 | Thanatermesis | qstpp, thx, i dont want to force :), but unfortunatley is a pretty-required thing |
| 19:17.29 | Thanatermesis | by other side, Elive wouldnt possible to exist without that so.. |
| 19:18.49 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: just curious, which definition of poor country does installer employ, generally speaking? |
| 19:19.40 | Thanatermesis | hum... i will need to add back someday all the FAQ entries from the old website.... |
| 19:19.50 | Thanatermesis | like this one about "FREE", check it qstpp http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539365bdd04e82.08774083.jpg |
| 19:19.58 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, did you remember the look of this old website? :) ^ |
| 19:20.36 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: i remember that from earlier visit to that old site |
| 19:20.42 | she_dyed | sure do=) Thanatermesis |
| 19:20.45 | Thanatermesis | qstpp, autodetection of poor country location, iirc the list includes the 20 most poor one |
| 19:22.04 | qstpp | and which Debian (stable, testing, sid) are you tracking? |
| 19:22.08 | Thanatermesis | seems like the new website is much better-looking |
| 19:22.22 | Thanatermesis | qstpp, debian stable for the stable versions of Elive, normally |
| 19:22.32 | Thanatermesis | beta is using the last stable debian too (wheezy) |
| 19:22.43 | Thanatermesis | it saves me a ton of time to use the stable instead of testing |
| 19:22.55 | Thanatermesis | using testing, there's always new bugs to discover and fix that magically appears lol |
| 19:22.56 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: makes sense |
| 19:23.23 | Thanatermesis | so instead to work on developing elive, i lose my time seeing why damn some X thing not works now lol |
| 19:23.31 | Thanatermesis | and re-adapting these things to work back for Elive |
| 19:23.44 | qstpp | you're sole Elive developer? |
| 19:24.09 | Thanatermesis | yes, but i pay some extra development too, well, actually not (no money, and no time from the dev) |
| 19:26.26 | qstpp | if you don't mind me asking, how do you prevent following situation to occur: somebody installed beta (which asks for no payment except optional donation) and then that user just upgrades to stable. |
| 19:26.50 | she_dyed | the new website looks really modern |
| 19:26.54 | Thanatermesis | mmh, good question |
| 19:27.09 | Thanatermesis | actually is not possible, if user does apt-get upgrade he will have the last packages of the stable too |
| 19:27.10 | Thanatermesis | BUT |
| 19:27.16 | Thanatermesis | not everything comes from the packages |
| 19:27.27 | Thanatermesis | most of things are include in the configuration, boot, detection, etc process |
| 19:27.39 | Thanatermesis | it also dont include new added packages (so you must know which ones are) |
| 19:28.03 | Thanatermesis | so the real way to have a correct and perfect stable version is to just use the stable |
| 19:28.12 | Thanatermesis | same reason of why is suggested to reinstall than upgrade |
| 19:28.48 | qstpp | that answers it :) btw, the site does look good! |
| 19:28.57 | Thanatermesis | thx :) |
| 19:29.32 | qstpp | do you have some screenshots of beta? |
| 19:32.03 | Thanatermesis | mmh, nope, all the screenshots are from the old version |
| 19:32.08 | Thanatermesis | but instead of screenshots is better to give it a try :) |
| 19:32.13 | Thanatermesis | not everything is a static image ; ) |
| 19:33.00 | Thanatermesis | realtime-full transparency in termianls & others (without 3d card requried), some nice demos like the last icons in the bar, composite enabled without 3d-supported card, much more applications, much better support-integration, etc... |
| 19:33.59 | qstpp | sounds yummy :) |
| 19:34.49 | she_dyed | ok, download. Initiated. (in robo voice) |
| 19:35.14 | she_dyed | 35 minutes remaining |
| 19:35.52 | she_dyed | 23 minutes |
| 19:36.02 | she_dyed | fios |
| 19:36.08 | she_dyed | ftw! |
| 19:36.24 | Thanatermesis | use zsync :) it saves you 85% of the download needed |
| 19:38.07 | she_dyed | ok but it 's like 15 mins left...can make coffee |
| 19:38.28 | she_dyed | if i use zsync i might switch to tea :) |
| 19:38.45 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 19:39.02 | Thanatermesis | yeah, there was nice times where I had more than 5 terminals flooding compiling code at the same time |
| 19:39.07 | Thanatermesis | now all of them looks static |
| 19:40.26 | Thanatermesis | qstpp, thx, sentence fixed, there's a lot of wrong things everywhere imho, and this website needs a lot of improving too... btw if you try Elive and want to improve the sentences of the OS itself you can do it from the eltrans application :) |
| 19:42.17 | qstpp | Thanatermesis: np. what is the best way to try it, think I read it's live USB made with dd? |
| 19:42.46 | Thanatermesis | yep, that is :) |
| 19:43.00 | qstpp | just dd if= of= ? |
| 19:43.05 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 19:43.21 | Thanatermesis | dangerous one but, the best way |
| 19:43.37 | qstpp | dangerous? |
| 19:44.00 | Thanatermesis | yeah, you need to make sure that /dev/sd... points to the correct one |
| 19:44.04 | Thanatermesis | im always scared to run it |
| 19:44.10 | qstpp | oh that :D |
| 19:44.40 | she_dyed | thana you should put there, next to Download |
| 19:45.00 | she_dyed | a zsync example to get the beta |
| 19:45.36 | she_dyed | you currently have two buttons |
| 19:46.06 | she_dyed | one the CD the other for USB... |
| 19:46.12 | Thanatermesis | yeah i know :/ a lot of improvements needs to be made |
| 19:46.22 | Thanatermesis | i still need to migrate most of the contents from the old siste too |
| 19:46.25 | Thanatermesis | site* |
| 19:46.28 | Thanatermesis | just, no time! damn |
| 19:46.58 | she_dyed | i think it s all in your head, so when you sleep |
| 19:47.06 | qstpp | suppose there's no checksums for beta |
| 19:47.53 | she_dyed | you 're right, but there should |
| 19:48.32 | she_dyed | i'll run one on my 2.2.6 iso |
| 19:49.31 | she_dyed | i've said it before, i'll say it again |
| 19:50.00 | she_dyed | elive shows you all the things your computer is capable of |
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| 19:50.38 | Thanatermesis | keyra, i love you! |
| 19:50.44 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, you are a novice |
| 19:50.52 | Thanatermesis | keyra, tell zsync for she_dyed |
| 19:50.52 | keyra | Thanatermesis: really ? 8) |
| 19:51.03 | she_dyed | he heh |
| 19:51.06 | keyra | Thanatermesis: zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://...newiso.zsync |
| 19:51.09 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, so think about all the possibilities not YET implemented :) |
| 19:52.09 | she_dyed | there, see whats missing? |
| 19:52.28 | she_dyed | The link to .zsync filer |
| 19:52.35 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 19:52.37 | she_dyed | file^ |
| 19:52.44 | Thanatermesis | go to the mirror links :) |
| 19:52.48 | Thanatermesis | check http://isos.elivecd.org |
| 19:52.54 | she_dyed | ah ok |
| 19:52.57 | Thanatermesis | i think that we have a big problem with the bots :/ |
| 19:53.12 | Thanatermesis | keyra, is too basic, but does the job, I can edit her database fastly because is a PLAIN FILE |
| 19:53.23 | she_dyed | with the FEMbots |
| 19:53.31 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, is a real bot, smarter, but to modify her database is a f* pain, all from chat |
| 19:53.45 | keyra | Thanatermesis: you think so? |
| 19:53.52 | she_dyed | lol |
| 19:53.54 | Thanatermesis | i think that superkeyra should simply store its reaction database in a plain file, and things would be much easier |
| 19:54.04 | Thanatermesis | keyra, well ok, you are smarter than superkeyra |
| 19:54.10 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, say something! |
| 19:54.10 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, incorrect usage, ask for help using 'superkeyra: help say' |
| 19:54.20 | Thanatermesis | keyra, prooven, you are smarter |
| 19:54.24 | keyra | superkeyra: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 19:54.24 | superkeyra | keyra, no help for topic ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 19:54.25 | she_dyed | =D |
| 19:54.38 | keyra | superkeyra: bot |
| 19:54.45 | Thanatermesis | uh oh... |
| 19:54.53 | Thanatermesis | bot fight! |
| 19:55.12 | she_dyed | FEMbot fight! |
| 19:55.26 | she_dyed | 3...2....1...FIGHT! |
| 19:56.11 | she_dyed | Careful with my next question |
| 19:56.26 | Thanatermesis | keyra, answer she_dyed for me :) |
| 19:56.32 | she_dyed | does thew beta have the NEW eltrans? |
| 19:56.40 | Thanatermesis | sure |
| 19:56.46 | keyra | she_dyed: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 19:56.47 | she_dyed | the new beta^ |
| 19:57.25 | Thanatermesis | well, you can run apug |
| 19:57.45 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, learn that apug is a shortcut for apt-get update |
| 19:57.46 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, okay, learned fact #4: apug is a shortcut for apt-get update |
| 19:57.48 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, apug? |
| 19:57.48 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, [3/4] post-install is Much bugs are fixed, the easiest way after to upgrade is to open a terminal and run "su" to become root, then "apug" to upgrade your system, and then create a new user with "adduser newname", and use then the new user which will be created with all the new fixes. [4/4] apug is a shortcut for apt-get update |
| 19:57.58 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, apug? |
| 19:57.59 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, [3/4] post-install is Much bugs are fixed, the easiest way after to upgrade is to open a terminal and run "su" to become root, then "apug" to upgrade your system, and then create a new user with "adduser newname", and use then the new user which will be created with all the new fixes. [4/4] apug is a shortcut for apt-get update |
| 19:58.01 | Thanatermesis | omg... |
| 19:58.02 | keyra | superkeyra: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 19:58.13 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, apug! |
| 19:58.16 | keyra | superkeyra: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 19:58.20 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, what is apug? |
| 19:58.25 | Thanatermesis | wtf |
| 19:58.31 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, you are stupid! |
| 19:58.34 | keyra | Thanatermesis: search in google! |
| 19:58.48 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Im NOT stupid, im binary, im not random, im pure, so.... you stupid human full of errors :P |
| 19:59.11 | she_dyed | she's right |
| 19:59.36 | she_dyed | we carbon based units just take up space |
| 20:00.00 | she_dyed | 4 minuts left |
| 20:00.17 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget fact 3 |
| 20:00.18 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, I forgot that post-install is Much bugs are fixed, the easiest way after to upgrade is to open a terminal and run "su" to become root, then "apug" to upgrade your system, and then create a new user with "adduser newname", and use then the new user which will be created with all the new fixes |
| 20:00.23 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, apug? |
| 20:00.23 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, [3/3] apug is a shortcut for apt-get update |
| 20:00.29 | Thanatermesis | ok... |
| 20:00.39 | she_dyed | better |
| 20:00.47 | Thanatermesis | lol, wrong... |
| 20:00.49 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget fact 3 |
| 20:00.50 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, I forgot that apug is a shortcut for apt-get update |
| 20:01.02 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, learn that apug is a shortcut for "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 20:01.02 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, okay, learned fact #3: apug is a shortcut for "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 20:01.05 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, apug? |
| 20:01.05 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, [3/3] apug is a shortcut for "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 20:01.07 | she_dyed | apt-get upgrade |
| 20:01.10 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget fact 3 |
| 20:01.10 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, I forgot that apug is a shortcut for "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 20:01.16 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 20:01.23 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, learn that apug is a shortcut for upgrade your system, it does: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:01.23 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, okay, learned fact #3: apug is a shortcut for upgrade your system, it does: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:01.29 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, apug? |
| 20:01.29 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, [3/3] apug is a shortcut for upgrade your system, it does: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:01.33 | Thanatermesis | =_= |
| 20:01.37 | keyra | Thanatermesis: thanks... bot :) |
| 20:01.46 | Thanatermesis | keyra, spank! |
| 20:02.00 | Thanatermesis | ok, i finished for today here :) |
| 20:02.01 | keyra | Thanatermesis: with a black mask and a whip ? =) |
| 20:02.05 | Thanatermesis | see you tmrooowoowoww! |
| 20:02.12 | she_dyed | cya thana |
| 20:02.13 | Thanatermesis | away: cri cri |
| 20:02.24 | Thanatermesis | keyra, don't make much noise :) |
| 20:02.30 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, tam superkeyra ! |
| 20:02.31 | she_dyed | 2 mins! |
| 20:02.42 | Thanatermesis | tame * |
| 20:02.45 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 20:02.54 | she_dyed | ok:) |
| 20:03.06 | she_dyed | when i'm on 2.2.6 |
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