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| 03:00.22 | yebyen | Installer modules |
| 03:00.34 | yebyen | keyra: you there? |
| 03:00.38 | yebyen | People are dicks |
| 03:01.23 | yebyen | keyra: are you still telling people about the installer modules |
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| 03:02.14 | Elive_user59_en | hello |
| 03:05.23 | yebyen | Looks like you have to be invited to elive these days now |
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| 09:13.25 | Elive_user_it_13 | ciao a tutti |
| 09:13.30 | Elive_user_it_13 | hi hello |
| 09:14.06 | Elive_user_it_13 | i need help h |
| 09:14.08 | Elive_user_it_13 | t |
| 09:14.13 | Elive_user_it_13 | thanks |
| 09:18.23 | Elive_user_it_13 | ?? |
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| 11:49.45 | xGaryG | Good Morning, Room! |
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| 12:17.45 | Elive_user_tr_15 | as |
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| 12:37.37 | Elive_user17_en | назим |
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| 13:17.15 | ellsworthNOW | how do you make flash player work ,in elive |
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| 13:41.54 | Elive_user41_en | Hi, I'm trying 2.2.2 beta and would to install. How do I get the experimental installer? Thanks. Jack B |
| 13:47.27 | xGaryG | Right click on your desktop, Go across Applications to sub menu, then down to Administration. From that list choose Synaptic. |
| 13:47.42 | Elive_user41_en | Ah! I see! The code.... |
| 13:48.30 | xGaryG | Choose Reload, then Mark All Updates. |
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| 13:55.06 | Elive_user41_en | Synaptic in progress - thanks |
| 13:58.49 | xGaryG | Once you update, the installer on your application bar will be the latest. |
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| 14:02.47 | xGaryG | I guess I should have said to simply open Terminology, and run: apug |
| 14:10.24 | Elive_user41_en | Unfortunately, synaptic failed to update due to lack of space (I'm running of live dvd) |
| 14:13.08 | xGaryG | try 'apug' from the command line. |
| 14:15.05 | xGaryG | V1rt0uS |
| 14:15.32 | Elive_user41_en | apug running - after 'sudo dpkg configure a' |
| 14:16.13 | yebyen | last week there was a command you could pass to elive installer to get past the modules part and install in beta mode |
| 14:16.34 | xGaryG | If that fails, try 'apug update installer-5g' |
| 14:17.07 | Elive_user41_en | still no go -- no space left on device |
| 14:17.22 | yebyen | you should have some free space even booting from a dvd, unless you have very low amount of ram |
| 14:17.37 | yebyen | i used the usb installer myself |
| 14:21.09 | Elive_user41_en | I'm now trying ....installer-5g (I'm using a EeePC901) |
| 14:21.54 | Elive_user41_en | no go again. I've obviously got low space |
| 14:24.22 | Elive_user41_en | I'll try again with a fresh boot. Thanks anyway! |
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| 15:21.08 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: one thing i noticed on the beta |
| 15:21.20 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: ^ |
| 15:22.08 | she_dyed | is in settings > all > system date & time |
| 15:22.57 | she_dyed | never completes, something about 'problem running datetimeconf |
| 15:23.01 | Thanatermesis | needs to re-look at all those menu apps and how they works good or bad |
| 15:23.06 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 15:23.42 | she_dyed | but i run in terminal: su daettimeconf is normal |
| 15:23.50 | she_dyed | i think the 'esu' |
| 15:24.05 | she_dyed | is interfering |
| 15:24.25 | she_dyed | didn't popup |
| 15:25.23 | she_dyed | to ask me the password |
| 15:27.16 | she_dyed | lol i think the wrong clockhand in detourious is spinning fast |
| 15:27.44 | she_dyed | makes it hard to tell time |
| 15:28.50 | she_dyed | here check this shot to know which clock |
| 15:29.00 | she_dyed | http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/141-share-your-desktop/page__view__findpost__p__83400 |
| 15:29.28 | she_dyed | back in 15 |
| 15:30.49 | Thanatermesis | esu? oh, that's for PrinceAMD_D :) |
| 15:30.58 | Thanatermesis | in fact esu not works right now |
| 15:33.15 | PrinceAMD_D | OUCH! |
| 15:33.20 | PrinceAMD_D | who broke esu |
| 15:33.30 | Thanatermesis | it doesnt works since... 1 year ago ? |
| 15:33.53 | Thanatermesis | mmh, or it works ? |
| 15:33.57 | Thanatermesis | i dont even have a package for it yet |
| 15:34.06 | Thanatermesis | i think that was not completed, the last time (lacked a design) |
| 15:34.14 | Thanatermesis | but actually i dont even know if it compiles lol |
| 15:36.18 | yebyen | hey, people are here! |
| 15:36.30 | Thanatermesis | yeah :) |
| 15:36.47 | yebyen | I set up elive on my girlfriend's laptop |
| 15:36.58 | yebyen | a week later, something happened, windows 7 won't boot anymore |
| 15:37.11 | yebyen | this is not a trouble report... she's happier now |
| 15:37.20 | yebyen | don't seem to need any reason to go back to Windows now |
| 15:37.35 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 15:37.36 | Thanatermesis | thats good :) |
| 15:37.51 | Thanatermesis | but... if booted after install, there was really no reason to not boot now |
| 15:37.51 | yebyen | no files were lost ^_^ |
| 15:38.07 | yebyen | i'm going to try a win7 rescue disc one of these days |
| 15:38.20 | Thanatermesis | it booted after to install Elive ? |
| 15:38.25 | yebyen | it did! |
| 15:38.33 | yebyen | total mystery |
| 15:38.34 | Thanatermesis | can you mount the win partitions from Elive ? |
| 15:38.45 | yebyen | I had to let them chkdsk |
| 15:38.52 | yebyen | after that, they're mountable |
| 15:38.57 | yebyen | but they don't boot |
| 15:39.07 | Thanatermesis | yeah sometimes those crappy ntfs needs ntfsfix tool to be run |
| 15:39.37 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, can I connect to that computer ? i could try to give it a test |
| 15:39.56 | Thanatermesis | we have hooks for before and after to mount, so if thsoe ntfs needs a fixup for those cases, could be nice to add them :) |
| 15:41.39 | xGaryG | Hey All! |
| 15:41.44 | yebyen | I'm in another part of town right now, if it can be fixed from inside of elive that's something I'd be interested to try |
| 15:43.32 | Thanatermesis | hi xGaryG ! |
| 15:44.07 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, so if you want, ping me when you are back, but is important to look at the actual "broken state" before to make it working |
| 15:44.15 | xGaryG | Not so much fun when everything is installed and working. |
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| 15:44.35 | Thanatermesis | i mean, we can make it working, but we need to see "whats happening now" and "what is the fix" and "how to detect broken states", in order to implement a permanent fixor :) |
| 15:44.58 | Elive_user89_en | How do i install Elive when i click the installer it says join this chat?? |
| 15:45.05 | Thanatermesis | "Elive fixes your windows" good slogan, but bad for the health |
| 15:45.25 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user89_en, this means that you are using an old version of Elive :) i suggest you to update it |
| 15:45.38 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, heh, maybe! but a lot of work is remaining |
| 15:45.43 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, do you have some C skills ? |
| 15:45.45 | Elive_user89_en | Its a fresh download |
| 15:46.23 | yebyen | I'll ping you back later... I think Kate would agree to this |
| 15:46.25 | xGaryG | Not really. I played with it some, but never got where I really understood it. |
| 15:46.31 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user89_en, mmh, thats not possible, run this: grep version /etc/elive-version | elivepaste |
| 15:46.46 | keyra | Thanatermesis: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 15:46.46 | Thanatermesis | yebyen, no worries, im not hurry :) |
| 15:47.03 | Elive_user89_en | [(piped)] http://pastebin.com/C5ct8jx5 |
| 15:47.03 | superkeyra | Elive_user89_en in elive you can do things like "dmesg | tail | elivepaste" |
| 15:47.18 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user89_en, 2.2.2, this is very old, from where you downloaded it |
| 15:47.27 | Thanatermesis | ? |
| 15:47.42 | Thanatermesis | the Elive servers dont even has such dinosaur |
| 15:47.59 | xGaryG | I am going to charge up eltrans here in a bit. |
| 15:48.13 | keyra | xGaryG: eltrans is the Elive translator tool, a very easy and guided way to made translations for Elive (and e17 too), it sends automatically your translations, you can download it from http://us.repository.elive-systems.com/pool/main/e/eltrans/ , ask me about poedit before to use eltrans |
| 15:50.50 | Thanatermesis | fuck, he dont told me from where downloaded it :/ |
| 15:51.12 | Thanatermesis | dont like when users disappears without giving the full needed info |
| 15:52.33 | yebyen | are you saying I should take that link down? I still have a copy on downloads.nerdland.info |
| 15:52.40 | yebyen | or at least make it obvious that it's an old image |
| 15:53.27 | yebyen | made an "old" directory so nobody grabs them by mistake |
| 15:54.07 | yebyen | it's not a supported mirror anyway, can't imagine anyone is using it |
| 15:54.59 | Thanatermesis | well, the question is "how that user did know about this mirror?" :) |
| 15:55.05 | Thanatermesis | (in case that is using this mirror) |
| 15:55.15 | Thanatermesis | so its also possible that he just downloaded it 2 weeks ago and for he is "new" |
| 15:55.27 | Thanatermesis | but Elive isos changed a lot with tons of fixes since then |
| 15:56.13 | yebyen | Are paid Installer Modules going live during the beta period now? |
| 15:56.24 | yebyen | or are these people just confused |
| 15:56.52 | yebyen | someone left in a fluster some time within the backlog I can see because he thought he would need to pay for a module |
| 15:57.06 | keyra | yebyen: make a look to this first entry: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/FAQ#free |
| 15:57.29 | Thanatermesis | i just added a small message for those could be confused: http://www.elivecd.org/installer-module-beta/ |
| 15:57.30 | Thanatermesis | make a look |
| 15:57.45 | Thanatermesis | but the thing is that the donations coming are SO low, that is not easy to make Elive alive |
| 15:58.07 | Thanatermesis | so i was forced to add this installer-module thingy for the beta versions too (suggested donation OR wait the slider to finish to get it) |
| 15:58.09 | yebyen | This page is great |
| 15:58.21 | keyra | Thanatermesis: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
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| 15:59.00 | Thanatermesis | another thing can be: the installer of older versions of Elive was not very clear about how to get the installer module (it should be improved now), but in theory the installer is updated when running it so ppl should be able to use the last version |
| 15:59.14 | keyra | Thanatermesis: Run apt-get update && apt-get install eliveinstaller-3g, then open a terminal with root (type su), launch 'eliveinstaller', that's all :) see if you don't have some 'zenity error messages', if yes, reboot and try again |
| 15:59.53 | yebyen | "unkown" |
| 15:59.55 | yebyen | typo |
| 16:00.39 | yebyen | Many unknown minutes |
| 16:01.15 | Thanatermesis | thx, ill fix it :) |
| 16:02.56 | Thanatermesis | hum, in fact, im not going to fix it... |
| 16:03.06 | Thanatermesis | tehre was an update of hte slider plugin that if i edit it, i think that will be broken |
| 16:03.49 | Thanatermesis | my gf said that she will do a much better slider because this one sucks lol, so let's see if she has time and do something better :) |
| 16:03.53 | Thanatermesis | one of these days lol |
| 16:04.03 | keyra | Thanatermesis: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 16:05.09 | yebyen | Well, these people are grad students, I don't know if they will donate but I'll try to make sure they see the slider if they're going to use the software |
| 16:05.39 | Thanatermesis | yeah well, the slider is optional |
| 16:05.52 | Thanatermesis | reality is nobody donates because is easier to wait |
| 16:05.53 | yebyen | I have a feeling they won't donate without it |
| 16:06.03 | Thanatermesis | so these messages "try's to convince" about lose 2 minutes doing it :) |
| 16:07.41 | yebyen | so far everyone I show elive to, they are really happy to use it |
| 16:12.34 | Thanatermesis | tell them to wait for the final version :) |
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| 16:54.43 | yebyen | Hello kate! |
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| 19:20.05 | Thana` | elmo401, is this sentence correctly spoken? |
| 19:20.17 | Thana` | "Timezone Updated" "Your timezone was updated to your new location '<b>Europe/Zurich</b>',\nthe time is now <b>$(date +%I:%M)</b> $(date +%p) of $(date +%A)" |
| 19:26.22 | Thanatermesis | or PrinceAMD_D ^ |
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| 20:25.47 | Elive_user21_en | Hi can I have the beta instller please ;o) |
| 20:31.29 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, beta installer |
| 20:31.33 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 20:31.38 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user21_en, you need to use a new version |
| 20:32.02 | Elive_user21_en | oh I see, got it thank you |
| 20:33.42 | PrinceAMD_D | Thanatermesis, "Your timezone has been updated to your new locatio '<b>..... |
| 20:33.49 | PrinceAMD_D | Thanatermesis, "Your timezone has been updated to your new location '<b>..... |
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| 21:00.58 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user21_en, a newer version of elive, i meant |
| 21:01.31 | Elive_user21_en | Yes, thank you I got what you meant, downloading now |
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| 22:41.37 | KateLimnogirl | My Windows system quit after a long 3 or 4 years and after my boyfriend installed Elive on my laptop I do not miss Windows one bit! Thank you for this awesome system that is super user-friendly to intermediate computer programming people like me! |
| 22:44.49 | yebyen | Thank you Kate ! :) |
| 22:58.23 | elmo401 | Thana`: that looks ok. |
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| 23:13.13 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 23:13.25 | Thanatermesis | firmwares on the go ! |
| 23:15.01 | Thanatermesis | KateLimnogirl, thanks :) i think that your sentence deserves an entry in the "testimonials" list :)) |
| 23:15.16 | Thanatermesis | can you write it ? its just on the "Feedback" button on the Elive site |
| 23:15.26 | Thanatermesis | s/write/add/ |
| 23:15.27 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis meant: "can you add it ? its just on the "Feedback" button on the Elive site" |