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| 11:41.39 | she_dyed | hey there |
| 11:42.17 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: i think i would be the wrong person to ask about Clementine |
| 11:43.04 | she_dyed | i am more the music -dir -folder, folder type of person |
| 11:43.18 | keyra | she_dyed: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils |
| 11:44.02 | she_dyed | winamp old-school type of music fan, heck I am looking for that ppa for xmms even |
| 11:45.32 | she_dyed | and youu know i am even trying to switch audacious to the old 'classic winamp style' look |
| 11:46.12 | she_dyed | that lets me even shade or rollup the interface |
| 11:47.06 | she_dyed | so when i looked at clementine, it is oriented towards people who put their music in 'libraries' |
| 11:48.01 | she_dyed | i am the extreme opposite of that type of person |
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| 11:49.24 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 11:49.30 | xGaryG | Hey |
| 11:49.34 | Thanatermesis | im too for folder mode |
| 11:49.53 | she_dyed | i don't have thousands of clips, at most a couple of albums, so to me libraries are excessive and personally extra baggage to mainrtain, but |
| 11:49.55 | Thanatermesis | but by other side, i used songbird since long time and what is useful from it is that you dont need to search where your music is |
| 11:50.15 | Thanatermesis | everything is saved in its database, so just select the artist or the genre... this is handy |
| 11:50.20 | Thanatermesis | hi xGaryG |
| 11:50.25 | she_dyed | yes,i know libraries work for majority of people |
| 11:50.28 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, well, i have 100 gb of music :) |
| 11:50.39 | she_dyed | Understood. |
| 11:51.01 | Thanatermesis | i tried songbird and is pretty nice, but very bloated |
| 11:51.08 | Thanatermesis | not tried clementine much |
| 11:51.45 | she_dyed | The libraries work for other people, so when a music player uses up the full screen at first |
| 11:52.01 | she_dyed | I get rid of it |
| 11:52.53 | she_dyed | give me a small music player inerface in the corner |
| 11:53.28 | she_dyed | ok i tried it, it will work for *those* people |
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| 11:54.00 | she_dyed | with libraries |
| 11:54.29 | she_dyed | i switch back to cplay or xmms, I'm the OTHER guy |
| 11:54.51 | Thanatermesis | do you know that there's an amazing feature hacked in cplay on Elive ? :) |
| 11:55.03 | Thanatermesis | it is about making your "organizing music" much easier |
| 11:55.06 | she_dyed | no, what |
| 11:55.26 | Thanatermesis | if you press G, the song is moved to a "good" subdirectory, if you press B, to a "bad" named one |
| 11:55.27 | she_dyed | really, you usedit? |
| 11:55.29 | xGaryG | Any music I listen to, I use my tablet. |
| 11:55.39 | Thanatermesis | on that way, when you finish to listen your "cplay *mp3" files, they are moved in good and bad directories |
| 11:55.44 | Thanatermesis | then you can just wipe out the bad one :) |
| 11:56.04 | she_dyed | heh sounds simple enough |
| 11:56.09 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, yeah touchscreens are handy for pick music |
| 11:56.16 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, simple yeah, but very handy! |
| 11:56.22 | Thanatermesis | oh, and also the f key |
| 11:56.26 | she_dyed | i know |
| 11:56.29 | Thanatermesis | or was F ? not sure... |
| 11:56.31 | she_dyed | ! :) |
| 11:56.36 | xGaryG | More portable, too. |
| 11:56.36 | Thanatermesis | it makes your song scroll 15% up |
| 11:57.05 | she_dyed | i shoul check out these enhancements |
| 11:57.05 | Thanatermesis | so if you are organizing and you are listening the boring intro... just pick "f" and you move directly to the more "normal music" zone |
| 11:57.13 | xGaryG | Anything I should try? |
| 11:57.26 | Thanatermesis | when i need to organize music, my best tool is this cplay hack :) |
| 11:57.39 | she_dyed | hmm, have you tried clentine, xGaryG |
| 11:57.49 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, if you want to try, we have "audacity" and "clementine" audio applications that we dont know which one should be the best for users |
| 11:57.52 | she_dyed | clementine^ |
| 11:58.16 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, if you want to play deeply with them to see how they works, features, speed, lightness, etc... you are welcome :) |
| 11:58.36 | she_dyed | more for people who are used to 'libaries' for their music |
| 11:59.09 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: i have 2 screens |
| 11:59.51 | she_dyed | clem puts up full screen for its player?? no thanks! |
| 12:00.04 | xGaryG | I can give them a shot. Have to make Coffee first ... (Updating comes before that even) |
| 12:00.31 | Thanatermesis | the fact that more ppl uses it doesnt strictly means that is best :) see windows |
| 12:00.33 | she_dyed | plus, i am not a 'libraries' person |
| 12:01.01 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, well, seems like that when you are done you can close it and becomes in the trayer app |
| 12:01.08 | Thanatermesis | as a handy small widget |
| 12:01.33 | she_dyed | but i am also not a systray person |
| 12:02.51 | she_dyed | it'll be audacious i guess, i'm not a songbird/clementine fan |
| 12:03.10 | she_dyed | even cplay |
| 12:03.27 | Thanatermesis | well, same as me |
| 12:03.32 | Thanatermesis | but im just stuck on songbird now |
| 12:03.36 | she_dyed | so you know where i'm coming from |
| 12:03.44 | Thanatermesis | "thanks" to a plugin in the phone where i was able to rate the music with stars |
| 12:03.55 | Thanatermesis | so was handy to press the stars on my phone while working, and so organizing music |
| 12:04.04 | she_dyed | yes, seee? |
| 12:04.09 | Thanatermesis | but htis problem not worked anymore and now im stuck on songbird-bloat lol |
| 12:04.20 | she_dyed | then you pull them up |
| 12:04.47 | Thanatermesis | i still organizing my music with stars on it (i did an own command for that, with kbd hotkeys instead of using the phone now) |
| 12:04.58 | she_dyed | heh |
| 12:05.09 | Thanatermesis | thinks that cplay & audacity has no stars rating music |
| 12:05.24 | Thanatermesis | stars are nice... "put my best selection" | sort by star :) |
| 12:05.42 | Thanatermesis | dreams at nights making an e17 module which is an audio player |
| 12:06.41 | she_dyed | hmmm build on mpdule, think it was an attempt |
| 12:07.00 | Thanatermesis | yeah well, i want to do something better :) |
| 12:07.07 | xGaryG | I have to do some studying first, so I'll be here is you need me. |
| 12:07.18 | Thanatermesis | but... the problem is: which backend to use ? mplayer? mpd? xmms2? mmh... |
| 12:07.25 | she_dyed | oh oj, thats how it starts...:) |
| 12:07.33 | she_dyed | oh ok* |
| 12:07.51 | Thanatermesis | ok xGaryG :) |
| 12:07.56 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, motivated to write some C emodule ? :) |
| 12:08.09 | she_dyed | i don't code |
| 12:08.46 | she_dyed | sometimes i think about it, maybe i should |
| 12:09.40 | Thanatermesis | you could start if you have free time :) |
| 12:18.27 | she_dyed | I can't commit to something major |
| 12:20.11 | she_dyed | also jobhunting atm |
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| 13:12.32 | xGaryG | What flash player do I install? |
| 13:13.21 | xGaryG | One from the actual Adobe site? |
| 13:15.08 | xGaryG | Thanatermesis, Are you watching? |
| 13:15.24 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, you dont need to install it, you HAVE it |
| 13:15.50 | xGaryG | Any time I go to a flash site, they say I need it? |
| 13:16.23 | xGaryG | Was going to: http://www.introversion.co.uk/uplink/ |
| 13:19.07 | Thanatermesis | you are using chromium ? |
| 13:19.22 | xGaryG | Yes. |
| 13:19.28 | Thanatermesis | omg uplink for ipad, nice! |
| 13:19.32 | Thanatermesis | wonders if for iphone too |
| 13:19.44 | Thanatermesis | the chromium from Elive ? it works for me |
| 13:19.50 | xGaryG | Version 35.0.1916.153 Debian 7.5 (274914) |
| 13:20.04 | keyra | xGaryG: Debian is the SH%$T my friend ! |
| 13:20.11 | Thanatermesis | well, run: api flashplugin-nonfree |
| 13:21.55 | xGaryG | Unable to locate flash-plugin-nonfree |
| 13:22.02 | Thanatermesis | well, run: api flashplugin-nonfree |
| 13:22.32 | she_dyed | too many dashes there xGaryG |
| 13:24.15 | xGaryG | It says I had it, and that libgsoap2 is no longer neded. |
| 13:24.15 | she_dyed | synaptic will list it |
| 13:24.45 | she_dyed | type the first few letters |
| 13:25.51 | she_dyed | while something is highlit on the right side |
| 13:27.11 | xGaryG | It says I have flashplugin-nonfree 1:3.2 |
| 13:27.32 | xGaryG | But it is not working here... |
| 13:28.03 | xGaryG | I knew I could find something that did not work. |
| 13:28.50 | xGaryG | I exited all browsers before running it, too. |
| 13:30.08 | Thanatermesis | ok, let's make it more simple: |
| 13:30.13 | Thanatermesis | it works on live mode, xGaryG ? |
| 13:30.32 | xGaryG | I did not try flash during live mode. |
| 13:31.26 | Thanatermesis | try the same page, it should work |
| 13:31.36 | Thanatermesis | i assume that you did something in your system that you broke it, it is not normal that not works |
| 13:32.04 | Thanatermesis | and on such case, we need to know what you did, in order to avoid future possible breakups for any user of Elive |
| 13:33.36 | Thanatermesis | similar to this that I have created yesterday: http://bugs.elivecd.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=616&project=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc |
| 13:33.50 | keyra | Thanatermesis: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 13:35.46 | xGaryG | It still does not work. |
| 13:35.55 | Thanatermesis | not in live ? |
| 13:40.49 | xGaryG | Just a moment. I'll get the disk out. |
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| 13:49.56 | xGaryG | Great. I laptop says it is a blank disk... |
| 13:56.31 | she_dyed | thana if it helps, on this pc flashplugin worked |
| 13:56.46 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: ^ |
| 13:57.10 | she_dyed | live mode still, in fact i installed firefox =) |
| 13:57.33 | she_dyed | and the flashplugin nonfree worked there |
| 13:57.51 | she_dyed | here* i mean |
| 13:58.21 | xGaryG | Looks like I am going to have to re-download and burn a DVD. This DVD reader stinks. |
| 13:58.24 | she_dyed | all we need now is to find out what xGaryG must have done |
| 13:59.17 | she_dyed | be back soon |
| 14:01.30 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, why dont use USB ? is MUCH suggested |
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| 14:06.47 | xGaryG | How much memory does it need to have? |
| 14:07.42 | she_afk | the iso is < 700M iirc |
| 14:08.57 | she_dyed | wait thats wrong |
| 14:09.52 | she_dyed | and this dvd problem is getting distracting |
| 14:10.32 | she_dyed | from the main issue |
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| 14:12.52 | she_dyed | hello |
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| 14:14.51 | she_dyed | elive beta, 1.8G |
| 14:15.42 | she_dyed | 1.9G for usb image 2.2.8 |
| 14:16.11 | Thanatermesis | yes, you need an usb bigger than 2gb |
| 14:16.14 | Thanatermesis | at least 4gb is suggested |
| 14:16.18 | Thanatermesis | then dump teh system using dd |
| 14:16.23 | Thanatermesis | in windows you have an app for that |
| 14:16.37 | Thanatermesis | in linux... well, you have an Elive tool that needs to be imported back :) |
| 14:16.49 | xGaryG | I found a little 4G plug. |
| 14:16.53 | Thanatermesis | and the instructions are not yet writed on the website :/ i still need to improve the website! damn |
| 14:18.00 | she_dyed | hey Thanatermesis i think for the CD burn is it also 2.2.8, it says 1.8G |
| 14:18.48 | she_dyed | oh same version |
| 14:18.52 | Thanatermesis | yeah well, more or less |
| 14:19.00 | Thanatermesis | it is going to grow in the next build :) |
| 14:19.42 | she_dyed | in windows i use lilli linux live usb creator |
| 14:20.00 | she_dyed | next build, this week/weekend? |
| 14:20.00 | xGaryG | Downloading the thumb version. |
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| 14:20.33 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 14:21.07 | Thanatermesis | use win32diskimager for windows |
| 14:21.09 | Thanatermesis | not another one |
| 14:21.19 | Thanatermesis | this one makes sure that is dumped in the correct way |
| 14:21.24 | Thanatermesis | and use the USB/img versino of elive, not the iso |
| 14:21.39 | Thanatermesis | this week, yeah |
| 14:22.05 | she_dyed | is it freeware |
| 14:22.19 | xGaryG | I wish there were a way to update the thumbdrive. |
| 14:23.28 | Thanatermesis | ill maybe research a better tool in the future, no time now :) |
| 14:23.42 | Thanatermesis | or PrinceAMD will do a small interface in ELM + Windows for run a dd ;) |
| 14:23.55 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, just re-copy the new versions on it |
| 14:23.58 | Thanatermesis | re-dump |
| 14:25.36 | xGaryG | That is a ling process. My download averages 120KB/s ... |
| 14:26.40 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, use zsync |
| 14:26.48 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, zsync? |
| 14:26.53 | Thanatermesis | keyra, zsync |
| 14:26.54 | keyra | Thanatermesis: zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://...newiso.zsync |
| 14:27.26 | Thanatermesis | isos.elivecd.org |
| 14:28.08 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, learn that zsync is %{who}, zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:28.08 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, okay, learned fact #6: zsync is %{who}, zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:28.13 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, zsync? |
| 14:28.13 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, [6/6] zsync is %{who}, zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:28.22 | keyra | Thanatermesis: download the development version from http://elivecd.org |
| 14:28.23 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget about zsync |
| 14:28.23 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, incorrect usage, ask for help using 'superkeyra: help forget' |
| 14:28.32 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget fact zsync |
| 14:28.32 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, incorrect usage, ask for help using 'superkeyra: help forget' |
| 14:28.37 | keyra | superkeyra: help ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 14:28.37 | superkeyra | keyra, no help for topic ? Hey, slow down cowboy! I'm not a bot! lol...ask roxville |
| 14:28.51 | xGaryG | This is my first time downloading the USB image. |
| 14:28.51 | keyra | superkeyra: bot |
| 14:28.53 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 14:29.06 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget fact #6 |
| 14:29.07 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, I forgot that zsync is %{who}, zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:29.25 | PrinceAMD | Thanatermesis, yes i have a program that can make usb elive on windows, just need to modify the interface |
| 14:29.59 | xGaryG | I have only eLive. No windows running here. |
| 14:30.22 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, learn that zsync is with zsync you can download isos/images much faster by only download the difference with the last one (you save 85-90% of bandwith, speed, all), so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, all is auto, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:30.22 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, okay, learned fact #6: zsync is with zsync you can download isos/images much faster by only download the difference with the last one (you save 85-90% of bandwith, speed, all), so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, all is auto, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:31.22 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, then you may need to wait that i re-import the old elive-usb-creator tool to Elive :), and you will be the first betatester! it will be fast for me to re-code it, but not much time right now :/, i hope to have it ready for end of this week, also the installer needs a few improvings for migration mode |
| 14:31.29 | Thanatermesis | saturated of work |
| 14:31.49 | xGaryG | Stop my current download? |
| 14:32.15 | Thanatermesis | no, continue |
| 14:32.23 | Thanatermesis | save it to your home :) we will use it later |
| 14:32.28 | she_dyed | and so we should leave the iso.zsync file, keep it safe somewhere |
| 14:32.30 | Thanatermesis | also, you can use zsync for download the next one much faster |
| 14:32.58 | Thanatermesis | just have them in your downloads directory and delete old ones |
| 14:33.08 | she_dyed | i see |
| 14:33.43 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, learn that zsync is with zsync you can download isos/images much faster by only download the difference with the last one (you save 85-90% of bandwith, speed, all), so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, all is auto, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync , browse http://isos.elivecd.org to get the link of the zsync files, they are in the mirrors too |
| 14:33.43 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, okay, learned fact #7: zsync is with zsync you can download isos/images much faster by only download the difference with the last one (you save 85-90% of bandwith, speed, all), so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, all is auto, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync , browse http://isos.elivecd.org to get the link of the zsync files, they are in the mirrors too |
| 14:33.51 | Thanatermesis | superkeyra, forget fact #6 |
| 14:33.51 | superkeyra | Thanatermesis, I forgot that zsync is with zsync you can download isos/images much faster by only download the difference with the last one (you save 85-90% of bandwith, speed, all), so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, all is auto, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://isos.elivecd.org....newiso.zsync |
| 14:33.57 | keyra | Thanatermesis: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 14:34.08 | Thanatermesis | needs a faster way to edit bot's database |
| 14:34.11 | keyra | superkeyra: zsync allows you to download new isos a lot more fast using some parts of the last one, most of the times you have already the 90%, so it only will need to download the 10% of the new iso, use it like: zsync -i old-iso.iso http://...newiso.zsync |
| 14:34.30 | Thanatermesis | =_= |
| 14:35.16 | she_dyed | much better, but save it to your website :) |
| 14:35.34 | she_dyed | the info is helpful |
| 14:35.42 | Thanatermesis | yeah, damn |
| 14:36.45 | she_dyed | ok at least the bot also has it saved |
| 14:37.04 | she_dyed | you can do the copy+paste later |
| 14:37.18 | keyra | she_dyed: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 14:40.11 | Thanatermesis | not so easy, we need to know the best place where to put it, the correct words to use |
| 14:40.23 | Thanatermesis | proofreading, short direct and clear... |
| 14:40.27 | Thanatermesis | speaks tarzanic |
| 14:42.11 | xGaryG | Speaking of proofing, I need to get at that. I've been too busy. |
| 14:48.09 | she_dyed | i can do that bit, Thanatermesis |
| 14:48.49 | she_dyed | maybe start it? then i'll improve it |
| 14:50.57 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis, you speak spanish no? Someoneis asking about what to install, he says it's for his spanish-speaking landlord |
| 14:51.20 | she_dyed | and I was goigng tosuggest this |
| 14:51.27 | she_dyed | going* |
| 14:51.39 | Thanatermesis | she_dyed, if you dont have yet, register on http://collaborate.elivecd.org |
| 14:51.46 | Thanatermesis | i want to try to launch this site soon |
| 14:51.48 | xGaryG | Hmmm ... It thinks it completed the download, at 350MB. |
| 14:51.52 | Thanatermesis | its meant to be for organize tasks |
| 14:52.06 | she_dyed | ok |
| 14:52.35 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, impossible, run in a terminal "wget -c" to the link of the .img file |
| 15:03.46 | xGaryG | Downloading now. |
| 15:04.48 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: submitted for collab |
| 15:05.20 | Thanatermesis | nice :) i will try to make this site ready asap |
| 15:07.21 | she_dyed | it says 'pending administrator approval' |
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| 15:42.33 | xGaryG | This connection sucks! Even wget is having a hard time keeping at it. |
| 15:42.47 | keyra | xGaryG: The first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing?? |
| 15:52.52 | Thanatermesis | xGaryG, use wget -c |
| 15:52.55 | Thanatermesis | -c can caontinue |
| 15:58.50 | yebyen | yay nagios, yay pnp4nagios |
| 15:58.52 | yebyen | yay rrdtool |
| 15:59.09 | yebyen | our air conditioning has been shut off, but we have temperature graphs in the server room now! |
| 16:03.28 | xGaryG | It has not failed, yet, it just keeps having to re-connect. |
| 16:03.59 | xGaryG | Oops ... it did exit. |
| 16:04.37 | xGaryG | It is continuing... |
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| 16:13.42 | xGaryG | Watching Pacific Rim. |
| 16:34.08 | she_dyed | lol @yebyen if the graphs are accurate are they showing a flat line |
| 16:35.37 | she_dyed | Thanatermesis: so I can have a beta with nvidia legacy, sounds tempting |
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| 16:48.30 | oldwrinkly | Hi, this is elive_user_en_38 on another linux xchat because I cannot get to a login screen on any kernel |
| 16:49.37 | oldwrinkly | on elive beta, error states cannot open xserver cannot start display |
| 16:50.29 | she_dyed | do you have a dedicated graphics card there |
| 16:50.33 | oldwrinkly | tried apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, updated a lot of nvidia packaged |
| 16:50.47 | keyra | oldwrinkly: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 16:51.08 | she_dyed | is it nvidia? |
| 16:51.25 | oldwrinkly | than installed a new kernel last night 3.14 |
| 16:51.42 | oldwrinkly | yes nvidia 9800gtx+ |
| 16:52.04 | Elive_user_de_17 | I have this card too and NO problem |
| 16:52.18 | keyra | Elive_user_de_17: Don't be shy! Just ask. :) |
| 16:52.37 | oldwrinkly | It all worked fine last night when Than installed it remotely |
| 16:53.05 | she_dyed | what changed between last night & today |
| 16:53.39 | oldwrinkly | nothing just powered off , been out all day an turned on |
| 16:55.47 | oldwrinkly | what command do you use from terminal login to get to desktop? |
| 16:56.00 | she_dyed | powered off via shutdown? |
| 16:56.28 | oldwrinkly | startx ....says cannot open xserver |
| 16:56.42 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.58 | oldwrinkly | yes from the desktop menu not a hard shutdown |
| 16:57.12 | keyra | oldwrinkly: open a terminal and run: enlightenment_remote -module-load syscon ; enlightenment_remote -module-enable syscon ; enlightenment_remote -restart |
| 16:57.57 | she_dyed | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.51 | she_dyed | which you tweak to suit your settings |
| 16:59.03 | oldwrinkly | open a terminal in pclinuxos or reboot into elive? |
| 16:59.31 | she_dyed | that pclinuxos does it use the nvidia? |
| 16:59.37 | oldwrinkly | yes |
| 17:00.31 | she_dyed | it may have aworking xorg.conf that can be used, the driver might be the OSS one |
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| 17:01.20 | she_dyed | and not proprietry |
| 17:01.53 | Elive_user_tr_17 | as |
| 17:01.56 | she_dyed | do you know where to look it up |
| 17:01.59 | oldwrinkly | I dont know, last night I told than that run nvidia_xconfig would not write to etc/x11/.conf |
| 17:02.16 | she_dyed | you have to be root |
| 17:02.23 | oldwrinkly | I was |
| 17:02.37 | she_dyed | so it can write, this is admin type stuff |
| 17:03.10 | she_dyed | save the xorg.conf from pclinuxos |
| 17:03.33 | oldwrinkly | why than said he would try updating nvidia, and today a while load of nvidia packages installed |
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| 17:03.53 | oldwrinkly | ok |
| 17:04.15 | she_dyed | thas probably the update ha was referring to |
| 17:05.03 | she_dyed | can you see the xorg for the line 'Driver' |
| 17:05.15 | she_dyed | can you see the xorg.conf for the line 'Driver' |
| 17:06.00 | she_dyed | it might say fb or nv |
| 17:06.09 | she_dyed | instead of nvidia |
| 17:07.12 | oldwrinkly | right this a copy of elive xorg.conf, totally different from pclinuxos |
| 17:07.18 | oldwrinkly | nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig |
| 17:07.18 | oldwrinkly | # nvidia-xconfig: version 304.48 (buildd@murphy) Wed Sep 12 11:32:28 UTC 2012 |
| 17:07.18 | oldwrinkly | Section "ServerLayout" |
| 17:07.18 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.18 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.19 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.23 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.25 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:07.27 | oldwrinkly | Section "Files" |
| 17:07.29 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:07.31 | oldwrinkly | Section "InputDevice" |
| 17:07.33 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.35 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.37 | she_dyed | no NOoooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:07.37 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.45 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.47 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:07.49 | oldwrinkly | Section "InputDevice" |
| 17:07.51 | keyra | oldwrinkly: mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should be called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y :D, boicot to human stupidity! |
| 17:07.53 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.57 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.59 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:08.01 | oldwrinkly | Section "Monitor" |
| 17:08.03 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.05 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.07 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:08.10 | she_dyed | i dont need it |
| 17:08.11 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.13 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.15 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:08.17 | oldwrinkly | Section "Device" |
| 17:08.19 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.23 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.23 | she_dyed | ]gawd! |
| 17:08.25 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.27 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:08.29 | oldwrinkly | Section "Screen" |
| 17:08.31 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.33 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:08.45 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
| 17:10.48 | oldwrinkly | and this is the driver bit of pclinuxos |
| 17:10.53 | oldwrinkly | Section "Device" |
| 17:10.53 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.53 | oldwrinkly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:11.01 | oldwrinkly | EndSection |
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| 17:16.21 | she_dyed | ah quiet at last |
| 17:17.49 | she_dyed | anyone teach you about pastebin yet |
| 17:17.50 | superkeyra | she_dyed in elive you can do things like "dmesg | tail | elivepaste" |
| 17:18.37 | oldwrinkly | I will try to get to the login screen in recovery mode |
| 17:19.52 | oldwrinkly | the last few days is the first time I have used a chat so no I have never heard of a paste bin |
| 17:20.23 | she_dyed | pastebin lets us view it on a webpage |
| 17:20.23 | superkeyra | she_dyed in elive you can do things like "dmesg | tail | elivepaste" |
| 17:20.43 | she_dyed | at our leisure |
| 17:20.45 | Elive_user_de_17 | Well, Elive BETA is installed, now I must male a reboot.....ByeBye ! |
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| 18:20.14 | *** topic/#elive is Update available of Topaz: up003 || Free installer-modules: http://www.elivecd.org/codes || Collaborate: http://www.elivecd.org/Help/Collaborate || Want to develop in EFL ? http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoEFL |
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| 19:20.38 | oldwrinkly | elive_user_en_38 is back on pclinuxos |
| 19:21.43 | oldwrinkly | tried recovery mode got error:could not insert nvidia-current unknown symbol |
| 19:22.10 | oldwrinkly | fatal error: server error no screens found |
| 19:23.09 | oldwrinkly | Nvidia:unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete(err0) |
| 19:23.47 | oldwrinkly | Acpi: if an acpi driver is available use it instead of native driver |
| 19:25.01 | oldwrinkly | tried apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade again but no use |
| 19:25.15 | keyra | oldwrinkly: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do |
| 19:25.56 | oldwrinkly | ok it maybe better to bite the bullet and reinstall |
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| 20:48.39 | Elive_user21_en | beta installer |
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| 23:00.57 | she_dyed | hey there |
| 23:26.42 | she_dyed | Thana`: am going to try the collaborate tomorrow (approval pending) |
| 23:40.48 | she_dyed | or even later tonight |
| 23:40.57 | she_dyed | cya later |
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