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| 10:45.27 | Elive_user_de_98 | ewald |
| 10:50.40 | jls_legalize | h |
| 10:50.42 | jls_legalize | hi |
| 10:50.45 | keyra | hi there |
| 10:51.13 | jls_legalize | any news from rage-player? |
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| 12:25.40 | avecavec | Someone? |
| 12:25.41 | avecavec | :) |
| 12:25.54 | jls_legalize | yes |
| 12:26.07 | avecavec | I just donated to elive and got myself a licenec |
| 12:26.29 | avecavec | Is there a way to make use of e19 with this install? |
| 12:27.10 | jls_legalize | ye |
| 12:27.12 | jls_legalize | s |
| 12:27.16 | avecavec | I tried to manually remove e17 and install e19 yet some errors eccured. and between the versions are 2 years. I know this is stable but yet still a beta version what I have so cannot be stable. |
| 12:27.20 | jls_legalize | install e19-plain |
| 12:27.34 | keyra | the default e17 of elive is much better than other E's :), but if you still want it run 'api e19-plain', but backup your .e directory so that it can become broken for e17 |
| 12:27.37 | avecavec | Should I remove any e17 before? |
| 12:28.15 | avecavec | alright |
| 12:28.31 | avecavec | lets say I keep this default, any new themes I can add to it, and why is it slow? |
| 12:28.43 | avecavec | I run it on i915 graphics with turbo |
| 12:28.50 | avecavec | and 4 gb of ram 2 gb swap |
| 12:29.18 | avecavec | yet it slows down when closing windows minimaze maximaze |
| 12:29.24 | avecavec | any ideea? |
| 12:45.45 | avecavec | :) |
| 12:45.49 | avecavec | guess not :D |
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| 13:42.01 | avecavec | are e18 themes compatible downwards? |
| 13:42.18 | avecavec | I am sorry I may ask stupid questions just put my hands on e17 |
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| 15:57.55 | kosmoss | one question, my terminology stopped working |
| 15:58.24 | kosmoss | is starting the process with a memory hang @ 21.9 RAM and it stays so, doing nothing and ofcourse not being visible |
| 15:58.30 | kosmoss | any help to solve this? |
| 16:01.55 | PrinceAMD | hm... |
| 16:02.09 | PrinceAMD | kosmoss, what version of elive? |
| 16:05.21 | Thanatermesis | ~ â¯â¯â¯ EINA_LOG_LEVEL=2 terminology |
| 16:05.29 | Thanatermesis | see if you can see something useful information to know the cause ^ |
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| 16:08.26 | Thanatermesis | kosmoss, |
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| 16:11.40 | kosmoss | PrinceAMD_: latest beta |
| 16:12.04 | jls_legalize | is out? |
| 16:13.51 | kosmoss | http://pastebin.com/FwE4J5Ag |
| 16:13.55 | kosmoss | here is the output |
| 16:14.15 | kosmoss | and after running that LOG level Thanatermesis the app started |
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| 16:14.48 | Thanatermesis | mmh, no eldbus... thats strange |
| 16:14.59 | Thanatermesis | is your Elive simply a default version or you modified some things? |
| 16:15.58 | kosmoss | default |
| 16:16.10 | kosmoss | i just installed some of the software I use with debian |
| 16:17.41 | kosmoss | keepass mono-full and did the normal updates geany is a minimal list of packages I added, I had to change the broadcom dkms stack cause its not seeing some network here, and replaced it with a brmcs compatible that were all the changes done to the install, its second install today, first one got nasty after upgrading from 17 to 19 and so on :) |
| 16:17.46 | keyra | run in a terminal: apse keyword |
| 16:18.03 | keyra | the default e17 of elive is much better than other E's :), but if you still want it run 'api e19-plain', but backup your .e directory so that it can become broken for e17 |
| 16:18.20 | kosmoss | sure do, I did keyra |
| 16:18.27 | Thanatermesis | are you using not e17 or a different login-manager? |
| 16:18.28 | kosmoss | what to look for? there are plenty results |
| 16:18.40 | kosmoss | I use all standard as its from the box |
| 16:18.58 | kosmoss | even the partitions are the ones recommended and a prime time use to me :D |
| 16:19.11 | kosmoss | bhodi linux did not managed to format them even |
| 16:19.15 | Thanatermesis | do you have this same problem in terminology in live mode? |
| 16:19.35 | kosmoss | I did not run it in live mode to give me issues |
| 16:19.57 | kosmoss | yet sure this is only after i added some updates , maybe even full reboot or so. |
| 16:20.12 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 16:20.23 | kosmoss | now I erased the usb disk with the installer, I could recreate it for to test this |
| 16:20.24 | Thanatermesis | there should be some of these updates or new packages that breaked it |
| 16:20.29 | Thanatermesis | but i dont know why :) or which one |
| 16:20.31 | kosmoss | sure is |
| 16:20.50 | kosmoss | well as I said I should have quite some load from mono-complete |
| 16:21.05 | kosmoss | not sure how that could broke it alto |
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| 16:21.26 | kosmoss | besides it, I do not see what could be causing any trouble |
| 16:22.03 | PrinceAMD_ | hm... 'mono-full' what is that kosmoss |
| 16:23.13 | kosmoss | its a set of libraries required for programs that were migrated from windows to linux some sort of emulator for windows ressources we can call it if not wrong |
| 16:23.42 | kosmoss | i use keepass2 |
| 16:23.51 | kosmoss | it makes usage of this mono libs |
| 16:24.05 | PrinceAMD_ | oh oh, for a sec there i tought you're a C# programmer :d |
| 16:24.25 | kosmoss | not exactly :) |
| 16:24.52 | PrinceAMD_ | ok, well libmono should not affect terminonogy in anyway |
| 16:25.04 | kosmoss | so is out of the list |
| 16:25.20 | PrinceAMD_ | upgrading from e17 to e19... i've personally never tried this |
| 16:25.31 | PrinceAMD_ | broadcom dkms has nothing to do with terminology |
| 16:25.45 | kosmoss | conky I installed as well |
| 16:25.47 | PrinceAMD_ | kosmoss, would be great if you can tell us how to reproduce the bug |
| 16:25.53 | Thanatermesis | using e19? |
| 16:25.57 | kosmoss | nope |
| 16:26.02 | kosmoss | I am on e17 |
| 16:26.07 | kosmoss | well I did this |
| 16:26.38 | Thanatermesis | do you have more than 2gb of ram ? |
| 16:26.50 | kosmoss | when installed always added 2 softwares geany and keepass2, after as I said mono libraries, some conky-manager, grub-configurator, and mostly thats it. |
| 16:26.55 | kosmoss | i use 4 gb indeed |
| 16:27.02 | Thanatermesis | well, you can do something easy... |
| 16:27.05 | Thanatermesis | or should be :) |
| 16:27.19 | kosmoss | would be nice to run it from ram |
| 16:27.20 | kosmoss | :) |
| 16:27.26 | Thanatermesis | you can run in live mode, and try to install all the same packages, then see which one makes your terminology break, we need to localize it |
| 16:27.42 | kosmoss | alright |
| 16:27.53 | Thanatermesis | or... you can reinstall, the installer should (i repeat: should!) take care of your data to reciclate it |
| 16:28.24 | kosmoss | I have to remake the usb let me format it and prepare this |
| 16:28.35 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 16:28.41 | Thanatermesis | we will be here :), more or less, everyday |
| 16:29.36 | kosmoss | i do it now |
| 16:29.39 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis, any news about efl with gstreamer? |
| 16:29.51 | kosmoss | thats good to know |
| 16:30.01 | kosmoss | it was first distro I ever pay since I live :D |
| 16:30.03 | kosmoss | in my 28 years |
| 16:30.15 | kosmoss | it has a magnet |
| 16:30.39 | kosmoss | and keep me running few hours :) its neat |
| 16:31.38 | Thanatermesis | jls_legalize, nope, but vlc works just fine |
| 16:31.51 | Thanatermesis | jls_legalize, but rage-player has a different problem, which works on terminology |
| 16:34.33 | jls_legalize | doesn't always work in terminology |
| 16:34.55 | jls_legalize | or it does always work in terminology |
| 16:35.00 | jls_legalize | ? |
| 16:35.05 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, maybe the same problem than in rage, can you say that on a comment in the rage Phab task ? |
| 16:35.16 | Thanatermesis | i mean, what not always worked on terminolgoy too |
| 16:35.20 | Thanatermesis | for me yes |
| 16:35.35 | Thanatermesis | but please comment your esxperience on it, it is important to know details |
| 16:42.45 | jls_legalize | which details? |
| 16:43.06 | Thanatermesis | you said that it not works on terminology for you |
| 16:44.02 | jls_legalize | I don't understastand why u don't want to compile efl with gstreamer1 support, since it is the default in enlightenement |
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| 16:46.40 | Thanatermesis | jls_legalize, not needed, vlc works better, to include more libs == more ram required for run apps |
| 16:48.56 | PrinceAMD_ | hm... |
| 17:19.31 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis: I've added comment in phab |
| 17:19.55 | jls_legalize | why don't u live the choise to the user: gstreamer1 or vlc |
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| 17:32.53 | Thanatermesis | can somebody make a fast check to the english of the next announcement? |
| 17:33.00 | Thanatermesis | http://piratepad.net/yqEpsCY01o |
| 17:33.11 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, kosmoss |
| 17:33.18 | Thanatermesis | keyra, you should have that feature too :) |
| 17:33.57 | kosmoss | looking |
| 17:34.42 | Thanatermesis | kosmoss, btw check the repo bot^ there's an update of terminology, try to update it too to see if fixes the problem |
| 17:37.03 | kosmoss | i updated |
| 17:37.19 | kosmoss | let me kill current running in background procs |
| 17:41.26 | Thanatermesis | keyra, how are you ? |
| 17:41.26 | kosmoss | not solved issue remains |
| 17:41.30 | keyra | very good, thx :) |
| 17:41.49 | Thanatermesis | do you have a correctly working audio card kosmoss ? |
| 17:42.45 | kosmoss | I think I do |
| 17:42.56 | kosmoss | let me check but i have sound |
| 17:42.59 | kosmoss | out of the box |
| 17:43.10 | Thanatermesis | that could be a cause... well, as said, the easiest is trying to reproduce the "step where it failed" |
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| 18:04.34 | Thanatermesis | needs some proofreaders.. |
| 18:07.42 | kosmoss | was checking the pad looks good |
| 18:07.47 | kosmoss | clean |
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| 18:07.58 | Thanatermesis | good english ? :) |
| 18:08.17 | kosmoss | yes |
| 18:08.41 | kosmoss | that should be fine |
| 18:08.42 | Thanatermesis | good :), so i will publish in a few then |
| 18:08.50 | kosmoss | image is writing on the disk |
| 18:09.30 | Thanatermesis | .8 ? |
| 18:10.22 | kosmoss | yes |
| 18:13.00 | kosmoss | maybe pre-configured suits better in case of technological speak |
| 18:13.51 | kosmoss | this is what I can change maybe :) |
| 18:14.15 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 18:14.18 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.58 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis, have u seen my comments on phab? |
| 18:27.32 | jls_legalize | do u have sound with terminology -b? |
| 18:27.50 | jls_legalize | or it's not supposed to play the audio? |
| 18:27.53 | Thanatermesis | jls_legalize, check your terminology, it is an option, "mute" |
| 18:35.04 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis, yes, now in terminology I can also hear the audio |
| 18:35.17 | jls_legalize | but plz compile efl with gstreamer1 |
| 18:35.30 | jls_legalize | maybe it fixes the rage problems |
| 18:37.17 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis: ERR<18204>:terminology media.c:1314 media_visualize_set() Media visualizing is not supported |
| 18:37.27 | jls_legalize | what does it means? |
| 18:37.53 | Thanatermesis | no jls_legalize, rage is another problem, which is explained on the rage task |
| 18:38.00 | Thanatermesis | nothing related with vlc |
| 18:38.31 | Thanatermesis | its like some internal code that doesnt finish to set up BEFORE the video starts, so the screen is black |
| 18:38.40 | keyra | install the package gtk-recordmydesktop, and if you like terminals try the cli tool video_record_desktop |
| 18:39.04 | jls_legalize | why should I record my desktop? |
| 18:41.17 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis, I have another question |
| 18:41.29 | jls_legalize | it is possible to use connman? |
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| 18:41.56 | jls_legalize | another question, have u tried epymc? |
| 18:42.06 | Thanatermesis | idk, i think that connman is unfinished or requires python, never was able to use it |
| 18:42.10 | Thanatermesis | nope |
| 18:43.02 | jls_legalize | 2 years ago I made a distro (core17) based on TinyCoreLinux with e17 and the connman module was working |
| 18:43.15 | jls_legalize | it does not require python |
| 18:43.25 | jls_legalize | only econnman requires it |
| 18:43.45 | jls_legalize | but econnman it's not needed for normal use |
| 18:44.03 | jls_legalize | efl python bindings are not difficult to compile |
| 18:44.41 | jls_legalize | connman it's present on the wheezy repo why it doesn't work? |
| 18:44.54 | jls_legalize | have u compiled e with connman enabled? |
| 18:59.24 | Thanatermesis | yeah but i was not able to use it, i never saw it working |
| 18:59.54 | jls_legalize | Thanatermesis, it works |
| 19:00.01 | jls_legalize | but not on elive |
| 19:00.02 | Thanatermesis | any screenshot? |
| 19:00.42 | jls_legalize | I don't have my core17 installed since I've switched from core to dcore |
| 19:02.50 | jls_legalize | and I still have to make a dCore distro with enlightenment |
| 19:04.07 | jls_legalize | http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,16890.msg105495.html#new |
| 19:04.10 | jls_legalize | dCore |
| 19:11.52 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, ping |
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| 19:43.55 | Kosmology | So I will try now to replicate this again |
| 19:44.36 | Kosmology | I do not believe it can be made with Live version, so I will have to reinstall it in a way or another. |
| 19:44.56 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 19:45.12 | Thanatermesis | where are you from, Kosmology ? |
| 19:45.32 | Kosmology | Romania |
| 19:46.00 | Kosmology | past years was living in Czech Republic |
| 19:46.59 | Kosmology | what about you Thanatermesis ? |
| 19:47.00 | Thanatermesis | bucharest? |
| 19:47.04 | Thanatermesis | living in spain |
| 19:47.10 | Kosmology | not exactly bucharest |
| 19:47.12 | Kosmology | Arad :) |
| 19:47.17 | Kosmology | it's better |
| 19:47.40 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 19:48.00 | Thanatermesis | i have a friend in bucharest, must visit some day |
| 19:48.56 | Kosmology | so what should I do in order to make sure I find out what causes this issue, should I reinstall it and install the plugins as i did before? and check after each if it runs,? |
| 19:49.04 | jls_legalize | I'm italian but living in grenoble since july |
| 19:49.19 | Kosmology | grenoble is where |
| 19:49.27 | Kosmology | is a country? :) |
| 19:49.36 | jls_legalize | france |
| 19:49.48 | Kosmology | yes I knew it's french |
| 19:49.49 | jls_legalize | :-D |
| 19:50.12 | Kosmology | i studied 10 years in school french |
| 19:50.18 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, you should install these packages one to one (steps) to know which step makes it working, by other side i think that something does a change in your "desktop" that makes the eldbus communication not working |
| 19:50.26 | Thanatermesis | familiarized with terminal, i assume? |
| 19:50.39 | Kosmology | yes |
| 19:51.15 | Thanatermesis | after to install, run "env > env-1.txt", to save your environmental variables, and when bug happens run it again to env-2.txt, maybe you can found something with DIFF that is different there |
| 19:51.43 | Kosmology | will do |
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| 19:56.51 | Elive_user_en_29 | yes im in the live version now |
| 19:57.08 | Elive_user_en_29 | should I use upgrade or a clean install |
| 19:57.16 | Thanatermesis | upgrade should perfectly work |
| 19:57.22 | Thanatermesis | and if is not the case, report it to me :) |
| 19:57.31 | Thanatermesis | just make sure that you dont have important data |
| 19:57.38 | Elive_user_en_29 | Smart I suppose |
| 19:57.43 | Thanatermesis | yup |
| 19:57.56 | Thanatermesis | should maybe describe the Smart option better... |
| 19:58.35 | Elive_user_en_29 | A bot that could write straight into the site would be neat |
| 19:58.55 | Elive_user_en_29 | Such as a mobile editor :) yet it can be done in many ways |
| 20:00.24 | Thanatermesis | do you know some programming languages Elive_user_en_29 ? |
| 20:01.32 | Elive_user_en_29 | i have not yet started |
| 20:01.50 | Elive_user_en_29 | played a bit in node.js and planned to learn more about it |
| 20:02.13 | Elive_user_en_29 | is never to late |
| 20:06.01 | Elive_user_en_29 | so now its installing grub |
| 20:14.19 | Kosmos | to be honest in the beta version I expected to see beta release of debian :). i was a bit surprised when I noticed is based on wheezy, after I realized was not the OS change how it was the enlightment one |
| 20:15.36 | Thanatermesis | yeah :), well, the question is: the stable version of Elive will use debian stable or debian testing ? nobodyknows ... |
| 20:15.53 | keyra | it is not suggested to modify the repositories of elive, wrong things will happen! lots of things will not work, well, do it at your own risk, but now you are warned :) |
| 20:16.10 | Kosmos | i wont do it |
| 20:16.14 | Kosmos | yet its a pitty |
| 20:16.19 | Kosmos | i have some nice programs |
| 20:16.40 | Kosmos | that need some specific library and that is only from sid or jessie repo in debian |
| 20:17.05 | Kosmos | yet i can use older version for them that works with wheezy |
| 20:18.00 | Kosmos | anyhow when debian says stable they know what they do |
| 20:18.09 | Thanatermesis | at the same time, debian stable offer "no surprises" with new bugs that always comes |
| 20:18.32 | Kosmos | always will be, because the support for enligt is from jessie above |
| 20:19.36 | Kosmos | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=e17 |
| 20:19.47 | Kosmos | and is release e17 only yet |
| 20:20.33 | Kosmos | Congratulations, you have installed Elive! |
| 20:20.41 | Kosmos | il reboot and see what we will get |
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| 20:29.30 | Elive_user_en_67 | so you wont believe this |
| 20:29.48 | Elive_user_en_67 | the upgrade did not fixed terminology |
| 20:29.57 | Elive_user_en_67 | same issue even after upgrade does not respond |
| 20:30.10 | Elive_user_en_67 | yet process runs in backfround |
| 20:30.25 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 20:30.36 | Thanatermesis | and it works on live mode correctly? |
| 20:30.40 | Elive_user_en_67 | yes |
| 20:31.13 | Elive_user_en_67 | i can reboot in live mode, but there I sure run it without issues |
| 20:31.27 | Elive_user_en_67 | still it can only be mono-complete |
| 20:31.38 | Elive_user_en_67 | because in the other 2 installs |
| 20:31.50 | Elive_user_en_67 | mono-complete was installed after all other stuff |
| 20:32.19 | Elive_user_en_67 | and only now on last test I selected to install it together with geany and keepass2 |
| 20:33.15 | Elive_user_en_67 | what else I installed were some themes |
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| 21:58.41 | Kosmos | y |
| 22:00.41 | Kosmos | it seems i am not able to install enna |
| 22:00.48 | Kosmos | dependency issues |
| 22:08.44 | ikevin | use myth :) |
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