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| 01:31.25 | keyra | welcome apt =) |
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| 01:42.47 | keyra | welcome apt =) |
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| 04:09.10 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_11! =) |
| 04:09.18 | keyra | if you want to leave us a report about Elive leave us your email too so we can contact you in case we need more details! |
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| 12:30.39 | keyra | welcome LinuxNovice =) |
| 12:49.58 | LinuxNovice | thanks, keyra. |
| 12:50.04 | keyra | you are welcome :), or 'yaw' as how the slow-typing humans says |
| 12:50.31 | LinuxNovice | how are you? |
| 12:50.34 | keyra | very good, thx :) |
| 12:51.10 | LinuxNovice | I'm downloading elive OS now. |
| 12:52.18 | LinuxNovice | by the way, what is elive based on? like Debian or Ubuntu. |
| 12:52.30 | LinuxNovice | I am very new to Linux. |
| 12:55.27 | LinuxNovice | hello, anybody there? |
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| 13:31.11 | keyra | welcome LinuxNovice =) |
| 13:31.30 | LinuxNovice | hi, keyra.. |
| 13:32.03 | LinuxNovice | anybody online here? |
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| 14:56.56 | keyra | welcome LinuxNovice =) |
| 14:58.31 | ikevin | welcome here LinuxNovice ;) |
| 14:58.47 | LinuxNovice | hi.. |
| 14:59.18 | LinuxNovice | needed some help... |
| 15:00.00 | ikevin | ask your question |
| 15:00.22 | LinuxNovice | do I have to pay for elive if I decide to install it on my laptop's hard disk? |
| 15:00.36 | keyra | to install elive in your hard disk just click in the last icon of the dock/bar, in live mode, follow the steps and select auto for everything if you want to have everything just working for you |
| 15:01.14 | ikevin | LinuxNovice, normaly yes, so you can use beta for free or ask for an invitation code |
| 15:01.20 | LinuxNovice | no. what I wanted to know is do I have to purchase the OS? |
| 15:03.08 | ikevin | as i remember, beta are free and stable need a donation, so, in some case, stable version can be offered |
| 15:03.52 | LinuxNovice | as I said earlier, I am new to Linux. Would I be facing any inconvenience in operating beta version as compared to the stable one? |
| 15:05.05 | ikevin | yes and now, it depend of the beta stage |
| 15:05.12 | ikevin | -now+no |
| 15:05.29 | ikevin | beta are pretty stable |
| 15:05.47 | LinuxNovice | ok. So there is no possibility of getting the stable version for free? |
| 15:06.05 | ikevin | in my case, using old hardware, i often have problem with stable version |
| 15:06.22 | ikevin | you can have stable version for free if you ask for that |
| 15:07.07 | ikevin | try to send a mail to contact@elivecd.org and ask for a free licence for test purpose |
| 15:07.11 | keyra | are you searching for this? http://www.elivecd.org/faq/search/free |
| 15:07.13 | LinuxNovice | ok. I too have a pretty old laptop that I bought in 2005. |
| 15:08.04 | ikevin | my pc is older than that, in my case, the problem is not the distribution so graphics drivers |
| 15:08.06 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping |
| 15:09.30 | LinuxNovice | my laptop can run on Ubuntu variants like Lubuntu, Xubuntu and some other like Mint XFCE. |
| 15:10.10 | LinuxNovice | Read about elive and wanted to try and see if this is more suitable for me. |
| 15:11.39 | ikevin | i recommand you to test the beta, elive 3 will maybe released soon |
| 15:12.43 | ikevin | most of linux distro (beta or stable) can be tested in live mode (this mean you don't need to install it to use it) |
| 15:13.27 | LinuxNovice | ok. great. I'll try the live usb mode. |
| 15:13.31 | ikevin | i recommand you to test some distro in live session to see what you need |
| 15:14.08 | ikevin | i never tested it, so some novice said that manjaro is cool |
| 15:15.13 | ikevin | as new user, i just prevent you to use debian nor redhat because they are not designed for desktop use |
| 15:15.52 | ikevin | i use debian for more than 15 year old, and i discover new things every day |
| 15:16.01 | LinuxNovice | I don't know. But, some unknown reason I am getting an error while downloading it. Not able to download the live usb image of beta version. |
| 15:16.41 | ikevin | http://elive.enlightenment.fr/isos/development/elive_2.7.8_beta_usb.img |
| 15:17.17 | LinuxNovice | ok. let me try this. |
| 15:18.14 | LinuxNovice | which other lightweight distro would you recommend for a newbie and for an old laptop? |
| 15:19.05 | ikevin | elive and mint are the only i've tested, manjaro seems a good one |
| 15:19.25 | ikevin | xubuntu too (so not sure that ubuntu is the very best choice) |
| 15:20.49 | LinuxNovice | what's your opinion about lxle? |
| 15:21.03 | ikevin | i don't know lxle |
| 15:21.49 | ikevin | what is your needs? games? work? internet surf? media? media center? other? |
| 15:22.16 | LinuxNovice | except games, evertything else. |
| 15:22.25 | LinuxNovice | everything else. |
| 15:23.09 | LinuxNovice | will debian suit my needs? |
| 15:23.25 | LinuxNovice | with a lighter version like lxde or xfce? |
| 15:23.42 | ikevin | debian can, so for media it's very difficult |
| 15:24.42 | LinuxNovice | ok |
| 15:24.57 | LinuxNovice | what about fedora? |
| 15:24.58 | ikevin | if you want a very light DE you need to see for E17 (like elive), mate (like mint), xfce or another exotic very light DE |
| 15:25.42 | ikevin | fedora can be a good choice (never used it) so IIRC it's a redhat based distr |
| 15:25.46 | ikevin | fedora can be a good choice (never used it) so IIRC it's a redhat based distrib |
| 15:27.03 | ikevin | you want linux for use as computer or "settopbox"? |
| 15:27.17 | LinuxNovice | for my old laptop. |
| 15:27.36 | ikevin | ok, so, as computer :) |
| 15:27.38 | keyra | :) |
| 15:28.03 | LinuxNovice | yes. specifically an old one. |
| 15:28.38 | ikevin | all newer linux distro can work on old hardware |
| 15:28.57 | ikevin | + or - speedly |
| 15:29.25 | ikevin | all distro can use any linux DE |
| 15:29.43 | ikevin | and it's often the DE who make the PC slow |
| 15:29.57 | LinuxNovice | ok. as you suggested above I'll go with one of the distros with a lightweight DE. |
| 15:30.20 | ikevin | the distro define the method to manage it |
| 15:30.40 | LinuxNovice | Looks like Ubuntu is most popular. I'll go with Lubuntu. Or may be Xubuntu. |
| 15:31.10 | ikevin | ubuntu is a quite good choice to start, not the better |
| 15:31.40 | LinuxNovice | then, which is better than that? in your opinion? |
| 15:32.26 | LinuxNovice | I'm not a techie. Just need an OS for home and office use. |
| 15:32.43 | LinuxNovice | Want to rely more on GUI than CLI. |
| 15:33.03 | ikevin | elive is very friendly so the interface more look like macOS than windows, mint is also very friendly and look like windows |
| 15:33.05 | LinuxNovice | Need an OS that's convenient to use and troublefree. |
| 15:33.40 | ikevin | ubuntu is friendly, and look like nothing XD |
| 15:33.53 | LinuxNovice | Yes. Exactly. I want a perfect replacement for Windows OS. |
| 15:34.32 | ikevin | if you want a replacment for windows, make a try to mint with mate interface |
| 15:34.33 | LinuxNovice | Don't know much. I haven't explored the Linux space. |
| 15:35.26 | LinuxNovice | Ok. I'll try Mint. |
| 15:37.15 | LinuxNovice | Thanks a lot for the information you provided. |
| 15:37.22 | ikevin | you welcome |
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