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| 00:30.11 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user79_ja! =) |
| 00:30.19 | keyra | if you want to leave us a report about Elive leave us your email too so we can contact you in case we need more details! |
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| 00:42.32 | keyra | welcome EliveWeb_96762! If you have any problem running Elive please report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org so we can assist and having you notified about it easier. You can also talk to Prince-AMD or Thanaterme-sis users |
| 00:42.58 | EliveWeb_96762 | Hello, do you have a link to download Elive Topaz 32 bits? |
| 00:43.49 | EliveWeb_96762 | Is this the right place to ask questions? |
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| 02:17.45 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: |
| 02:18.13 | elmo40 | the bar of icons at the bottom... where you click terminal, xchat, chrome... |
| 02:18.48 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 02:18.51 | elmo40 | my mom has a touch screen computer. she doesnt like to use the mouse all that much. i dont want the bar to take up program space |
| 02:19.01 | elmo40 | but i dont want it to disappear, either |
| 02:19.03 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 02:19.03 | Thanatermesis | i dont understand the problem :) |
| 02:19.05 | keyra | :) |
| 02:19.11 | elmo40 | i want it above the desktop, under everything. |
| 02:19.14 | Thanatermesis | its automatic, it hides when needed |
| 02:19.25 | Thanatermesis | do you have selected no-composite? or you are in ecomorph? |
| 02:19.35 | elmo40 | but how do you raise it after it hides? |
| 02:19.40 | elmo40 | ummm... |
| 02:19.55 | Thanatermesis | ah, touch, hum... interesting |
| 02:20.02 | Thanatermesis | have you tried to configure it from right-click? |
| 02:20.15 | Thanatermesis | answer: moving-off the window near to it |
| 02:20.36 | Thanatermesis | but as you said... i think that it STILLS be better on the way it is |
| 02:24.05 | elmo40 | it does not come up automatically when an app is in full screen. |
| 02:24.49 | elmo40 | i want it to take the full lower section and when i go full screen with a program it will not go 'under' the bar |
| 02:25.00 | elmo40 | i want it to be full screen minus the bar. |
| 02:25.03 | elmo40 | is this possible? |
| 02:25.22 | elmo40 | i want the menu to not be 'on top' but always visible. |
| 02:26.37 | elmo40 | oh, and the eltrans section i wanted to edit is not available... it is the message in the terminal that needs to be changed. |
| 02:28.32 | elmo40 | crap. audio is not working... |
| 03:02.55 | Thanatermesis | Naglfar, ping |
| 03:03.25 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, yeah, fullscreen = override, so you dont want it to annoying your view in fullscreen, right? |
| 03:04.01 | Thanatermesis | does the bar appears on you in fullscreen? |
| 03:04.11 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> do you have selected no-composite? or you are in ecomorph? <- elmo40 |
| 03:04.43 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, run audio-configurator for your audio |
| 03:23.18 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: nothing... |
| 03:23.23 | elmo40 | it just stopped working |
| 03:34.25 | Thanatermesis | what thing? |
| 03:34.39 | Thanatermesis | run from terminal, elmo40 |
| 03:35.06 | elmo40 | i did |
| 03:35.13 | elmo40 | i tried both options |
| 03:35.16 | elmo40 | still no audio... |
| 03:38.22 | elmo40 | printing directly from Scite doesnt work, either... |
| 03:38.34 | elmo40 | i had to export as PDF, then print from document viewer. |
| 03:38.56 | elmo40 | anything else you want me to test? |
| 03:39.43 | elmo40 | oh, and ecomorph is not 'on'. |
| 03:39.48 | elmo40 | want me to test it? |
| 03:43.47 | elmo40 | well, that is crazy |
| 03:43.59 | elmo40 | i started ecomorph, tested a few things then it stopped... |
| 03:45.26 | elmo40 | ugh... this isnt working out the way i wanted it to. |
| 03:45.40 | elmo40 | brb |
| 03:48.28 | Thanatermesis | !memo elmo40 mmh, sounds like you have multiple problems (that I have not see here), could be nice to see what is going on... please give me more info if you can, I will do a few tests here about your comments too in my next build |
| 03:48.29 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify elmo40 when I see him/her around! |
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| 03:49.34 | keyra | elmo40, memo for you: <Thanatermesis/#elive/2017-02-20 04:48> mmh, sounds like you have multiple problems (that I have not see here), could be nice to see what is going on... please give me more info if you can, I will do a few tests here about your comments too in my next build |
| 03:49.39 | keyra | welcome elmo40 =) |
| 03:49.57 | Thanatermesis | in fact i will need to search somebody with a printer for that... id ont have |
| 03:50.30 | Thanatermesis | ecomorph is unstable, but it works very good on my computer every day |
| 03:51.48 | elmo40 | it stops on mine. thinkpad T510 |
| 03:53.26 | Thanatermesis | ha! nice :) just found a way to run ecomorph automatically in live... :) |
| 03:53.28 | keyra | :) |
| 03:53.40 | elmo40 | cool |
| 03:53.41 | elmo40 | how? |
| 03:53.57 | Thanatermesis | well, the module is loaded, you just need to run the external command :D |
| 03:54.01 | Thanatermesis | wait, just checking here... |
| 03:54.23 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, so what about your audio? if you run audio-configurator from terminal it does say anything ? it just don't show anything? tell me mmore |
| 03:55.07 | elmo40 | it does what it does. asks to pick a card... it is doing its job just no audio actually comes out |
| 03:56.47 | Thanatermesis | humm.... |
| 03:56.50 | Thanatermesis | it should |
| 03:57.07 | Thanatermesis | and are your volumes correctly set? |
| 03:57.22 | elmo40 | all up |
| 03:57.29 | Thanatermesis | run: setvolume defaults |
| 03:57.31 | Thanatermesis | from terminal |
| 03:57.47 | Thanatermesis | and hten open a NEW app with audio like... idk music or play a video |
| 03:58.20 | elmo40 | but I closed Elive now... not in the mood to trouble shoot at the moment. I am angry at my brother for wanting to sell the family house from 1955!! he only sees the sale price, not emotional cost. |
| 03:58.32 | elmo40 | I did a few more eltrans updates. did you see? |
| 03:59.14 | Thanatermesis | hu, that doesn't sounds nice |
| 04:01.29 | Thanatermesis | yeah, just checked before, the packager tool automatically detected the translations and marked the package as to the repackaging queue :) |
| 04:01.31 | keyra | :) |
| 04:02.15 | elmo40 | nice. |
| 04:03.21 | elmo40 | I try to help ;) |
| 04:03.28 | elmo40 | translation is a small thing I can do |
| 04:03.56 | Thanatermesis | and you help :) |
| 04:04.00 | elmo40 | I didn't notice... but if you select at boot the +2.0 for border size, does it also increase the menu size? |
| 04:05.27 | Thanatermesis | mmh, yes, its dpi, its general size, mostly fonts |
| 04:05.41 | Thanatermesis | but i never liked the 2 value... just stick at 1 |
| 04:05.47 | Thanatermesis | by other side the theme looks small |
| 04:05.55 | Thanatermesis | try to run: api e17-theme-elive-light |
| 04:06.00 | Thanatermesis | its the new in-progress working theme ;) |
| 04:06.07 | Thanatermesis | bigger fonts too and white look |
| 04:09.16 | Thanatermesis | nice! a good amount of translations :) thank you, I was just looking notifications for the liveboot ones |
| 04:09.55 | elmo40 | I didn't edit live-boot :( |
| 04:09.57 | keyra | :/ |
| 04:10.15 | elmo40 | and I need larger everything for my mom. She is almost 70... needs larger font |
| 04:10.23 | Thanatermesis | so... (this is a complex feature but should work good, i tested it enough in the past), now your translated (english to english) sentences are injected to the original source code sentences, to have correct ones directly inside it, let me check... |
| 04:10.29 | keyra | have you already checked the Elive group in github? |
| 04:10.46 | Thanatermesis | well, try to use the Elive light theme for e17 and then if you need more, increase fonts |
| 04:10.51 | Thanatermesis | engage has also bigger ones |
| 04:10.51 | elmo40 | I want to make a version for her and other elderly people. This is why I ask about the other items. Keeping the lower doc visible but not on-top of full-screen apps... |
| 04:11.27 | Thanatermesis | i need to betatest this dock, so it works here... maybe is wrong configured |
| 04:11.37 | Thanatermesis | adds some notes to test for every new build |
| 04:12.22 | Thanatermesis | correct, your messages are injected to the original source code too :) |
| 04:12.29 | keyra | :) |
| 04:12.30 | Thanatermesis | just like you can see here https://github.com/Elive/smb-browser/commits/master |
| 04:13.06 | Thanatermesis | <elmo40> I didn't edit live-boot :( |
| 04:13.15 | Thanatermesis | yep, just a different name, maybe its called deliver from the gui |
| 04:14.46 | elmo40 | I was surprised I didn't edit smb-browser much sooner. |
| 04:14.54 | elmo40 | I am credited in it for design, LoL |
| 04:15.26 | Thanatermesis | one of hte most needed translations is the installer (good amount of old messagse or sentences that can be much clearer if shorter), but that's a good amount of them :) |
| 04:16.27 | Thanatermesis | mmh, it says you did smb-browser yesterday, elmo40 http://dev.elivecd.org/timeline |
| 04:18.55 | elmo40 | yes. |
| 04:19.02 | elmo40 | I should have done it 5 years ago! |
| 04:20.52 | Thanatermesis | hum, you did it from an old install of elive? |
| 04:20.58 | Thanatermesis | maybe was not sent in the past |
| 04:22.34 | elmo40 | I did a search. I did translations in 2009! |
| 04:22.41 | elmo40 | that is a LONGGGGGG time ago! |
| 04:23.58 | elmo40 | oh, I did do some translations for smb-browser in 2016 |
| 04:24.10 | Thanatermesis | but it was sent yesterday |
| 04:24.19 | Thanatermesis | maybe you had it in your computer without send (that sounds strange) |
| 04:25.02 | elmo40 | no no, I am checking the changes on the website. |
| 04:25.06 | elmo40 | http://dev.elivecd.org/search?q=elmo40 |
| 04:25.10 | elmo40 | :) |
| 04:25.12 | keyra | :) |
| 04:25.16 | elmo40 | I have been contributing for a while |
| 04:26.13 | Thanatermesis | [3815]: Eltrans commit: |smb-browser| in |en| by 'elmo40' |
| 04:26.14 | Thanatermesis | Eltrans commit: |smb-browser| in |en| by 'elmo40' |
| 04:26.14 | Thanatermesis | By elmo40 â 02/19/17 05:49:44 |
| 04:26.23 | Thanatermesis | yup :) |
| 04:27.04 | elmo40 | is XFCE dead? |
| 04:27.35 | Thanatermesis | idk :) |
| 04:27.47 | Thanatermesis | almost no time to try other things heh |
| 04:29.30 | elmo40 | just wondering about Thunar, since it is in that project, isn't it? |
| 04:29.32 | keyra | wonder! wonder! |
| 04:31.49 | Thanatermesis | yep, well, thunar works very good and featured, we dont need much more |
| 04:32.01 | Thanatermesis | unfortunately the E file-manager is not so.... mmmh, idk |
| 04:35.19 | elmo40 | do you provide all the plugins for thunar? |
| 04:36.37 | Thanatermesis | all the ones that i know, yes :) |
| 04:36.40 | keyra | :) |
| 04:36.42 | Thanatermesis | also a good amount of own Elive features |
| 04:36.54 | Thanatermesis | like right click in a selection of audio or images or video files |
| 04:37.06 | Thanatermesis | of the most handy ones: download subtitles for this movie |
| 04:37.29 | elmo40 | I am trying to streamline a system for a specific task. |
| 04:37.58 | elmo40 | right now I am getting many websites saying I should just use xubuntu because xfce is easiest for elderly people |
| 04:38.20 | elmo40 | I would agree, actually... I remember using it long ago and it was super easy |
| 04:38.27 | elmo40 | E is difficult |
| 04:38.31 | elmo40 | and easy to mess up!! |
| 04:39.31 | Thanatermesis | more than elive? i dont think so |
| 04:39.54 | Thanatermesis | well, easy to mess up probably, that's why Elive try's to improve its usability |
| 04:40.11 | Thanatermesis | but the overall desktop in Elive is simple and intuitive, "just try to use it" |
| 04:40.21 | Thanatermesis | my mom uses it, much easier than windows |
| 04:42.41 | elmo40 | nope. not from what I can see. |
| 04:42.49 | elmo40 | I will test both. make a distro of each one |
| 04:42.53 | elmo40 | see what she likes... |
| 04:44.19 | Thanatermesis | nah, no time for that, better to improve Elive |
| 04:44.32 | Thanatermesis | but the thing is simple: |
| 04:44.48 | Thanatermesis | - tell me on what the usability is wrong... what makes you difficult to found or find |
| 04:44.50 | Thanatermesis | thats all |
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| 06:54.01 | keyra | welcome madgoat =) |
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| 08:04.33 | Naglfar | hello Thanatermesis |
| 08:29.45 | Thanatermesis | hi Naglfar ! |
| 08:29.53 | Naglfar | :) |
| 08:29.55 | keyra | :) |
| 08:30.05 | Thanatermesis | :] |
| 08:30.31 | Thanatermesis | keyra, ! |
| 08:31.08 | Naglfar | I go to create a github account, I will choice some like eNaglfar instead, me using enlightenment |
| 08:32.36 | Thanatermesis | hah! sounds good :) |
| 08:32.48 | Naglfar | :) |
| 08:37.55 | Thanatermesis | do you know some C? |
| 08:42.31 | Naglfar | yes, I have some knowledge about C, I modidied src/modules/battery/e_mod_main.c to customice it |
| 08:43.03 | Naglfar | that's my new account: https://github.com/eNaglfar |
| 08:45.07 | Thanatermesis | nice :) |
| 08:45.09 | keyra | :) |
| 08:45.10 | Thanatermesis | time to customize it heh |
| 08:45.24 | Thanatermesis | which is the last version of Elive you played with? |
| 08:45.30 | keyra | know the version of your Elive running in your terminal: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 08:45.57 | Thanatermesis | which changes you did in module battery? |
| 08:46.30 | Naglfar | seems like DeonThomas is not here anymore, he asked to me about it, please let him know about it |
| 08:48.33 | Naglfar | I modified it to use /sys/class/power_supply/ instead of /proc/acpi/battery/ |
| 08:49.31 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 08:49.40 | Thanatermesis | so... for e17 ? |
| 08:49.49 | Thanatermesis | maybe the E guys would like to use your patch |
| 08:52.29 | Thanatermesis | mmh, this seems to be already implemented in e17 Naglfar |
| 08:53.50 | Thanatermesis | what is your bash and your C levels? |
| 08:54.41 | Naglfar | Thanatermesis, newer e17 realases uses /sys/class/power_supply/ then no need to use my patch anymore |
| 08:57.55 | Naglfar | my bash and C levels are like glass of water compared to the whole sea, enough to drink |
| 09:00.04 | Naglfar | I can't say begineer, neither experienced because I still continue learning everyday |
| 09:00.05 | Thanatermesis | i mean... e17 is old, from 2012, and we use e17, but new enlightenment is not e17, is e21 now |
| 09:00.25 | Thanatermesis | thats good :) |
| 09:00.28 | keyra | :) |
| 09:00.34 | Naglfar | :) |
| 09:01.31 | Naglfar | good to know, I still use enlightenment-0.16.999.026, even when I tested newer elive releases |
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| 09:02.03 | Thanatermesis | so you use your own e17 but not elive? or... no entendà |
| 09:03.14 | Naglfar | has entendido bien Thanatermesis |
| 09:03.23 | Thanatermesis | y porque no usas elive? :) |
| 09:03.55 | Naglfar | el motivo es porque comencé a utiliza slackware |
| 09:04.34 | Naglfar | y la unica manera de poder seguir utilizando elive fue mi propia version de elive en slackware |
| 09:04.34 | Thanatermesis | que tiene slack que no tiene elive? :] |
| 09:04.47 | Thanatermesis | oh ya |
| 09:04.53 | Thanatermesis | pero porqué la elección de slack? |
| 09:05.06 | Naglfar | por lo tanto tuve que usar mi own e17 en slack |
| 09:05.24 | Naglfar | slack es muy distinto de debian, ambos en el fondo son igualmente linux |
| 09:05.32 | Naglfar | pero he aprendido algunas cosas distintas |
| 09:06.28 | Thanatermesis | si, ya se que es distinto... pero me refiero a que, qué es lo que te gusta de slack? |
| 09:06.41 | Naglfar | entonces la forma en que sigo utilizando elive es en su mejor formato live-usb |
| 09:07.19 | Naglfar | la sencillez |
| 09:08.25 | Naglfar | aunque quizas la sencillez no sea lo que cualquier usario anda buscando |
| 09:09.05 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 09:09.08 | Thanatermesis | define sencillez :) |
| 09:09.10 | keyra | :) |
| 09:09.31 | Thanatermesis | pregunto porque no he usado slack desde que se distribuÃa en disquettes 4 1/2, de 1,4 MB |
| 09:09.32 | Thanatermesis | hah |
| 09:11.35 | Naglfar | mi propia definición de sencillez sería algo como no disponer de las cosas que no se necesitan |
| 09:12.07 | Naglfar | pero poder tenerlas a tu disposición si realmente son útiles |
| 09:16.21 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 09:16.36 | Thanatermesis | me suena a como una versión de Elive super-light en donde te la montas seleccionando paquetes... (hablando de equivalencias) |
| 09:16.55 | Thanatermesis | Elive ultimamente tiene muchos paquetes (eso es bueno), pero a algunas personas no les gusta eso |
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| 09:17.33 | keyra | welcome elmo40 =) |
| 09:18.08 | Naglfar | desde mi punto de vista, Elive debería seguir adelante como lo fúe en sus raices, ligera, con herramientas útiles y además con todas las posibilidades que ofrece debian |
| 09:18.33 | Naglfar | no tratando de saturarla con demasiado |
| 09:18.55 | Naglfar | pero intentando mantener lo importante |
| 09:20.50 | Naglfar | esto se traduce en que es bueno que Elive tenga muchos paquetes en sus repositorios |
| 09:21.03 | Naglfar | para quien los necesite |
| 09:23.18 | Thanatermesis | mmh, Elive sigue siendo ligera, aunque viene con muchas apps |
| 09:24.29 | Thanatermesis | existe cierto problema... muchos usuarios (especialmente en elive) son personas que no saben usar mucho computadoras, mi madre por ejemplo... no serÃa capaz de instalar un paquete, por eso es bueno que simplemente lo tenga disponible en su escritorio, listo para lanzar/usar |
| 09:24.42 | keyra | we had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 09:24.44 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping |
| 09:25.33 | Thanatermesis | otro problema es que el conjunto de funcionalidades dependen de paquetes especificos, no solo de instalar un paquete, es decir que la iso final es la que contiene todas las funcionalidades listas |
| 09:26.00 | Thanatermesis | por eso habrÃa que hacer una version muy especifica para ligereza en el sentido de instalar los paquetes uno mismo, pero tendrÃa que ser algo muy guiado para que funcione bien |
| 09:29.01 | Naglfar | creo que me estas exponiendo que hay principalmente como unos usuarios por asi llamarlos "habituales" y otros "a los que no les gustan ciertas cosas" |
| 09:31.49 | Naglfar | pensaba que para eso estaban los dos métodos distintos de descarga de Elive |
| 09:32.05 | Naglfar | para poder elegir |
| 09:32.34 | Thanatermesis | mmh, no, Elive hay solo una (por ahora) |
| 09:32.48 | Thanatermesis | y en esa se supone que entra todo tipo de adaptaciones |
| 09:32.58 | Thanatermesis | muchas formas diferentes de usarlo, para avanzados o normales... no importa |
| 09:33.07 | Thanatermesis | pero logicamente el sistema viene con muchos paquetes |
| 09:34.34 | ikevin | hi Thanatermesis :) |
| 09:34.36 | keyra | :) |
| 09:34.50 | ikevin | how are you? |
| 09:34.53 | keyra | very good, thx :) |
| 09:35.14 | Thanatermesis | hey ikevin :) long time! |
| 09:37.59 | Naglfar | en tal caso está bien que elive sea una para todos, pero se podría añadir un módulo adicional, para usuarios mas selectos, en el que puedan elegir de manera sencilla cuales son las aplicaciones o funcionalidades de las que prefieren prescindir, (este módulo sería básicamente y sencillamente un gestor de paquetes) |
| 09:38.28 | Naglfar | hi ikevin |
| 09:38.50 | Thanatermesis | Naglfar, aha, por eso digo una version "ultra light" y en donde en la instalación se elige que se desea instalar |
| 09:39.14 | ikevin | hi Naglfar |
| 09:39.20 | Thanatermesis | yepeee BTS (bugs.elivecd.org) website fixed! users were unable to register on the site heh, stupid php errors... |
| 09:39.22 | ikevin | Thanatermesis, yep, long time ! |
| 09:39.32 | Thanatermesis | ikevin, are you back to IRC ? :) |
| 09:39.59 | ikevin | i'm always connected so need be be hl to see me :x |
| 09:47.06 | Naglfar | on that case, it would be like two versions, the "ultra light" and the "complete" version |
| 09:50.33 | Thanatermesis | yeah, that is the idea :) |
| 09:50.35 | keyra | :) |
| 09:50.39 | Thanatermesis | now, there's another problem... |
| 09:50.46 | Thanatermesis | after this release will start having 64 bit too |
| 09:50.51 | Thanatermesis | so what this means? |
| 09:50.54 | Thanatermesis | 4 versions? |
| 09:51.01 | keyra | elive in 64 bits is planned in the near future, if you don't have the package that you need you can just use --arch i386 for now, so i386 on amd64 works simply perfectly good and without any performance impact, |
| 09:51.11 | Thanatermesis | well, doesn't sounds bad 4 versions... |
| 09:51.49 | Thanatermesis | 32 bit ultra-light/customizable, 32 bit complete, 64 bit ultra-light/customizable, 64 bit complete |
| 09:51.58 | Thanatermesis | or just... |
| 09:52.24 | Thanatermesis | well... |
| 09:52.32 | Thanatermesis | customizable doesnt means ultra light |
| 09:53.03 | Thanatermesis | 32 bit ultra light, 32 bit customizable, 64 bit complete |
| 09:53.09 | Thanatermesis | how this sounds like? 3 different versions |
| 09:53.31 | Thanatermesis | or... |
| 09:53.56 | Thanatermesis | 32 bit ultra-light, 32 bit customizable, 64 bit customizable, 64 bit complete |
| 09:53.58 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... |
| 09:54.00 | Thanatermesis | confused |
| 09:56.47 | Naglfar | why 32/64 bit version ? |
| 09:57.02 | keyra | elive in 64 bits is planned in the near future, if you don't have the package that you need you can just use --arch i386 for now, so i386 on amd64 works simply perfectly good and without any performance impact, |
| 09:57.26 | Naglfar | I use 32 bit version on x86_64 computer |
| 10:00.01 | Thanatermesis | heh, because a lot of people wants it |
| 10:00.08 | Thanatermesis | also it starts to be needed for multiple things |
| 10:00.51 | Thanatermesis | or just: 32 bit ultra-light + customizable, 64 bit complete |
| 10:01.06 | keyra | elive in 64 bits is planned in the near future, if you don't have the package that you need you can just use --arch i386 for now, so i386 on amd64 works simply perfectly good and without any performance impact, |
| 10:01.45 | Thanatermesis | keyra, enough! |
| 10:01.56 | Naglfar | it looks enough |
| 10:03.04 | Thanatermesis | yeah, sounds good :) |
| 10:03.06 | keyra | :) |
| 10:03.29 | Thanatermesis | !keyword '!$' DO NOT YELL ME! |
| 10:03.29 | keyra | Defining '!$' with: 'DO NOT YELL ME!'. |
| 10:03.36 | Thanatermesis | keyra, shut up! |
| 10:03.38 | keyra | :-# |
| 10:03.40 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 10:03.41 | keyra | DO NOT YELL ME! |
| 10:03.45 | Thanatermesis | mmh |
| 10:03.50 | Thanatermesis | keyra test ! this |
| 10:03.54 | keyra | test? o_O what are you thinking? |
| 10:04.00 | Thanatermesis | keyra test ! |
| 10:04.13 | Thanatermesis | keyra test ! |
| 10:04.27 | Thanatermesis | keyra test! |
| 10:04.35 | Thanatermesis | keyra welkjwlkjwe! |
| 10:04.59 | Thanatermesis | thinks that keyra has a no-repeat timeout |
| 10:05.40 | Thanatermesis | !forget '!$' |
| 10:05.40 | keyra | ''!$'' is not defined. |
| 10:05.47 | Thanatermesis | !forget !$ |
| 10:05.47 | keyra | '!$' was defined as: 'DO NOT YELL ME!'. |
| 10:06.01 | Thanatermesis | !keyword '!$' OK OK! DO NOT YELL ME! |
| 10:06.02 | keyra | Defining '!$' with: 'OK OK! DO NOT YELL ME!'. |
| 10:06.05 | Thanatermesis | keyra welkjwlkjwe! |
| 10:06.09 | keyra | OK OK! DO NOT YELL ME! |
| 10:06.13 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 10:06.53 | Thanatermesis | !keyword '^o/' hi! |
| 10:06.53 | keyra | Defining '^o/' with: 'hi!'. |
| 10:06.56 | Thanatermesis | o/ |
| 10:06.58 | keyra | hi! |
| 10:07.06 | Thanatermesis | making fun with keyra |
| 10:07.24 | Thanatermesis | keyra, let's do some fun togheter |
| 10:07.42 | Thanatermesis | keyra, reboot |
| 10:08.22 | *** join/#elive keyra (~keyra@hostdo1.elivecd.org) |
| 14:05.58 | elmo40 | ultra-light version of Elive??? I can't wait!!!! |
| 14:06.02 | keyra | OK OK! DO NOT YELL ME! |
| 18:51.51 | *** join/#elive Elive_user_en_32 (~Elive_use@85-76-49-134-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 18:51.56 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_32! =) |
| 18:52.04 | keyra | if you want to leave us a report about Elive leave us your email too so we can contact you in case we need more details! |
| 19:16.28 | *** join/#elive Thanatermesis (~unknown@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 19:18.46 | *** join/#elive elive_lover (052998df@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.41.152.223) |
| 19:18.51 | keyra | welcome elive_lover =) |
| 19:19.19 | elive_lover | how are you? |
| 19:19.22 | keyra | very good, thx :) |
| 19:21.04 | elive_lover | have you already installed elive? i'm first time trying, and i very liked it |
| 19:21.30 | elive_lover | but can't install on my hard disk |
| 19:23.00 | elive_lover | anybody can help me to get invatation code? i would pay |
| 19:23.12 | keyra | you can talk to Prince-AMD or Thanatermesi-s, but is better if you use the website to report bugs: http://bugs.elivecd.org so that you can be better assisted and notified via email |
| 19:23.42 | elive_lover | thank you :-) |
| 20:34.04 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, im changing some configurations in the website for edition, do you want to have access for fix the wording of the website? (only the future changes, not the actual or old pages, so they are going to be changed entirely) |
| 20:39.05 | Thanatermesis | !keyword "(cant|can't|problem|unable|not work|working|report|bug|freeze|hangs).*(install|boot|desktop|configure|usb|donate|payment|donation|website)" Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 20:39.05 | keyra | Defining '(cant|can't|problem|unable|not work|working|report|bug|freeze|hangs).*(install|boot|desktop|configure|usb|donate|payment|donation|website)' with: 'Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you'. |
| 20:39.26 | Thanatermesis | let's try, so i have a problem booting Elive |
| 20:39.44 | keyra | the best way to fix a problem is by reporting the issue into our BTS, if we don't know about the problems that you can have we cannot solve them, your problem can affect to other users too, so you can collaborate with Elive by reporting them to http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 20:39.56 | keyra | we had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 20:39.59 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 20:40.06 | Thanatermesis | perfect... |
| 20:42.51 | elmo40 | sure |
| 20:42.54 | elmo40 | I love having access... |
| 20:43.36 | elmo40 | I am unable to configure blah blah |
| 20:43.38 | elmo40 | ;) |
| 20:44.17 | elmo40 | did it send you a PM? |
| 20:48.07 | Thanatermesis | well, it works like that: |
| 20:48.31 | Thanatermesis | - i dont want to change the actual pages because im going to rewrite them almost entirely (but nothing stops you to do it heh) |
| 20:49.14 | Thanatermesis | - when a page recibes a modification, you will receive an email showing these changes, so you can see for example my inserted tarzanic new words and seeing what exactly (can) be wrong heh |
| 20:50.28 | Thanatermesis | the idea for the future site (talking about sentences) is to simply having them the shortest-possible that shows the messages to tell |
| 20:51.23 | Thanatermesis | the pages are made from visual-composer, which is a GUI for editing... should be enough intuitive :), and you can simply try the "preview" before to publish anything |
| 21:03.37 | *** join/#elive Elive_user28_de (~Elive_use@dslb-188-101-093-073.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:03.42 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user28_de! =) |
| 21:03.50 | keyra | if you want to leave us a report about Elive leave us your email too so we can contact you in case we need more details! |
| 21:04.49 | Elive_user28_de | Hallo liebe Leute hier! |
| 21:04.51 | keyra | heudy! |
| 21:04.55 | keyra | OK OK! DO NOT YELL ME! |
| 21:05.36 | Elive_user28_de | Bin gerade zufällig über elive gestolpert |
| 21:06.51 | Elive_user28_de | Es sieht viel versprechend aus. jedoch kann ich es nicht ohne Hürde bzw. ohne reg. installieren |
| 21:07.44 | Elive_user28_de | sonst würde ich es mal richtig durch testen. Komme von Ubuntu (zuletzt) welt |
| 21:08.13 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, Elive_user28_de english? :) |
| 21:08.15 | keyra | :) |
| 21:08.25 | Thanatermesis | !forget !$ |
| 21:08.25 | keyra | '!$' was defined as: 'OK OK! DO NOT YELL ME!'. |
| 21:08.53 | Elive_user28_de | yes little english ;) |
| 21:08.59 | Thanatermesis | apt de en Bin gerade zufällig über elive gestolpert |
| 21:09.05 | Thanatermesis | apt de-en Bin gerade zufällig über elive gestolpert |
| 21:09.22 | Thanatermesis | apt help |
| 21:09.26 | Elive_user28_de | i try to explain in english |
| 21:09.38 | Elive_user28_de | no really need help |
| 21:09.53 | Thanatermesis | apt x de en Bin gerade zufällig über elive gestolpert |
| 21:10.01 | Thanatermesis | apt translate de en Bin gerade zufällig über elive gestolpert |
| 21:10.07 | Thanatermesis | apt, bad bot! |
| 21:10.07 | apt | Bad bot!, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 21:10.13 | Thanatermesis | keyra, spank apt |
| 21:10.16 | keyra | pants OFF! |
| 21:10.59 | Elive_user28_de | im here randomly in elive, and it look really cool |
| 21:11.17 | Elive_user28_de | wont to try it |
| 21:12.03 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user28_de, welcome :) |
| 21:12.07 | Thanatermesis | stable or beta version? |
| 21:12.13 | Elive_user28_de | stable |
| 21:12.20 | Elive_user28_de | berlin |
| 21:12.33 | Elive_user28_de | vbox on maxbook |
| 21:13.11 | Elive_user28_de | it is not possible to try and install without put email? |
| 21:15.05 | Thanatermesis | mmmh i think so |
| 21:15.10 | Thanatermesis | you may need installer module |
| 21:15.19 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user28_de, tell me your email, i will send you invitation to install free |
| 21:15.23 | keyra | are you searching for this? http://www.elivecd.org/faq/search/free |
| 21:16.49 | Elive_user28_de | i know its free... but right now iam on livecd. |
| 21:17.19 | Elive_user28_de | wont to try without give email |
| 21:17.30 | Elive_user28_de | is it not possible? |
| 21:18.16 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 21:18.21 | *** join/#elive Elive_user28_de (~Elive_use@dslb-188-101-093-073.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:18.26 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user28_de! =) |
| 21:18.34 | keyra | if you want to leave us a report about Elive leave us your email too so we can contact you in case we need more details! |
| 21:18.41 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user28_de, i need your email to send you invitation, you dont have email? |
| 21:20.11 | Elive_user28_de | i do |
| 21:21.49 | Elive_user28_de | but wanted to try quick dirty ;) without reg |
| 21:22.57 | Elive_user28_de | thanks |
| 21:28.55 | Thanatermesis | the beta version is more featured and you can install it quick dirty :) |
| 21:28.57 | Thanatermesis | without payment |
| 21:28.57 | keyra | :) |
| 21:29.05 | Thanatermesis | the next stable without payment too |
| 21:31.45 | Elive_user28_de | ;) |
| 21:31.56 | Elive_user28_de | thanks guys |
| 21:32.38 | Elive_user28_de | ok i will try |
| 21:32.53 | Elive_user28_de | and test |
| 21:34.17 | Elive_user28_de | payment is not the problem. ill try beta on clean system |
| 21:35.44 | Elive_user28_de | is there in elive the same system or way to set up a easy nginx php-fpm nextcloud? like debian? |
| 21:36.17 | Elive_user28_de | or have i pay some attention on how elive works? |
| 21:40.20 | Elive_user28_de | i am on trying the above nextcloud and tine20 for my private use on a asus ul30vt... think ill try it on elive |
| 21:41.30 | Elive_user28_de | is there any restrictions or things that i have to know before ill try? |
| 21:42.28 | Elive_user28_de | thanks for you help |
| 21:44.05 | Elive_user28_de | sorry for my bad english too |
| 21:47.05 | Thanatermesis | faso, no restrictions |
| 21:47.08 | Thanatermesis | nginx: same as debian |
| 21:47.15 | Thanatermesis | but i suggest you to use the BETA version, not the stable |
| 21:47.24 | Thanatermesis | because has more updated software, the last stable is very gold |
| 21:47.26 | Thanatermesis | old |
| 21:47.27 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 21:47.43 | faso | ahh |
| 21:47.45 | faso | ok |
| 21:47.58 | faso | good |
| 21:48.15 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: you need another mirror? website says only 3 with instability issues... |
| 21:48.42 | faso | very good ill check thanks |
| 21:49.42 | elmo40 | Thanatermesis: where do I login to edit website? |
| 21:50.22 | elmo40 | dev.elive? |
| 21:54.29 | Thanatermesis | 3 ? where you see that, elmo40 ? |
| 21:54.41 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, wait, im verifying and configuring your account :) |
| 21:54.44 | keyra | :) |
| 21:56.51 | *** join/#elive Elive_user28_de (~Elive_use@dslb-188-101-093-073.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:56.56 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user28_de! =) |
| 21:57.04 | keyra | if you want to leave us a report about Elive leave us your email too so we can contact you in case we need more details! |
| 21:59.06 | elmo40 | well... I edited a few dev.elivecd pages ;) |
| 22:03.03 | Thanatermesis | there's not only 3 mirrors (well, maybe yes), this info should be outdated... its auto |
| 22:03.27 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, tell me about that mirror, where is located? speed? bandwith limited? |
| 22:24.13 | elmo40 | I don't know... |
| 22:24.19 | elmo40 | I was thinking of hosting it on my website |
| 22:24.23 | elmo40 | http://graecanada.com |
| 22:24.43 | elmo40 | it is not overly fast, it is more than likely a collocation server |
| 22:24.45 | Thanatermesis | mmh, you should know these things |
| 22:24.53 | Thanatermesis | you need shell access and own commands |
| 22:24.58 | elmo40 | it is from godaddy. |
| 22:25.04 | elmo40 | ohhhh... yeah, I don't have shell access :( |
| 22:25.05 | Thanatermesis | how much you pay?? |
| 22:25.06 | keyra | :/ |
| 22:25.12 | Thanatermesis | s/??/?/ |
| 22:25.13 | elmo40 | cheap cheap. |
| 22:25.21 | Thanatermesis | like |
| 22:25.37 | elmo40 | I bought it 3 years ago. I don't know. paid for 5 years. |
| 22:26.14 | elmo40 | I will find out tonight when I return. |
| 22:28.16 | Thanatermesis | well, if you need a GOOD hosting, just tell me |
| 22:28.24 | Thanatermesis | after years researching i found a really good one |
| 22:28.27 | Thanatermesis | full shell and own install |
| 22:28.40 | Thanatermesis | its like 5 dollars month |
| 22:56.41 | Thanatermesis | ok... site ready |
| 22:56.43 | Thanatermesis | elmo40, ping |
| 22:57.46 | Thanatermesis | hu, wait |
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| 23:13.40 | keyra | welcome vaLin__ =) |
| 23:26.40 | *** join/#elive elmo401 (~Elmo40@23-233-103-105.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 23:26.45 | keyra | welcome elmo401 =) |
| 23:50.22 | Thanatermesis | ok.. that should work |
| 23:50.24 | Thanatermesis | elmo401, ready |
| 23:52.28 | Thanatermesis | elmo401, example: you should have received an email with a just recent change, on it I can see a small error that i did and there's extra <ul> values that should not be... so this email is a good way to control changes |
| 23:53.32 | Thanatermesis | elmo401, try it, let's do a test improving a page |
| 23:55.57 | Thanatermesis | you can edit the pages in code mode (with colors), and from the GUI tool builder |
| 23:56.11 | Thanatermesis | also in frontend (realtime & result editing) |