IRC log for #elive on 20171208

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01:21.06*** topic/#elive is Web: http://www.elivecd.org | BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org - please report problems so we can solve them | Forum: http://forum.elivecd.org | Elive 3.0 is on the way and going to be entirely cost-free!
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07:35.38keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_de_17! =)
07:35.45keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
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12:52.28keyraThanatermesis, memo for you: <grottem/#elive-dev/2017-11-29 11:58>  BUG clock settings are wrong again afther update
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12:56.26keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
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14:27.56keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_15! =)
14:28.04keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
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14:57.42keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_20! =)
14:57.50keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
14:58.24Elive_user_es_20i can't install elive on my laptop :(
14:58.26keyra:/
14:58.29keyraThanatermesis ping, somebody needs you
14:59.17Elive_user_es_20it doesn't boot after install
15:01.28Naglfarhello Elive_user_es_20
15:01.39Naglfaris there any error message?
15:04.31Elive_user_es_20when i reboot my laptop, it shows something like this
15:04.35Elive_user_es_20https://k45.kn3.net/taringa/1/4/6/0/4/4/8/lordii/C21.jpg?8639
15:11.05Naglfarseems like it didn't intalled it properly or grub really can't find it
15:11.26NaglfarThanatermesis, do you know about it ?
15:12.21Thanatermesisnope, it should be a problem with the way he partitioned
15:12.34Thanatermesisi dont know the exact reason
15:12.48Thanatermesisbut by using the automated partiinoning, in a single disk if possible, should always work
15:13.23Naglfarseems like Elive_user_es_20 gone quickly
15:13.54Naglfarit's some like they simply want to ask, but do not wait for answer
15:14.06Naglfarthank you Thanatermesis
15:16.17Thanatermesisyeah, that is very common heh
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15:22.48keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_30! =)
15:22.56keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
15:25.05ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, how you partitioned your hard disk?
15:26.05Elive_user_es_30120 GB in ext4 for /
15:26.16Elive_user_es_30And 1 GB in ext4 for /boot
15:26.56Thanatermesisyou don't need /boot for this case
15:27.08Thanatermesisyou have only one hard disk on this computer Elive_user_es_30 ?
15:27.45Elive_user_es_30It's only one HDD
15:28.00Elive_user_es_30But why i don't need a /boot partition?
15:28.17Elive_user_es_30I always create a /boot partition
15:28.22Elive_user_es_30And sorry for my English
15:28.31Thanatermesisbecause grub is able to read ext4, so not need of /boot
15:28.47Thanatermesis/boot is only needed for strange filesystems
15:28.57ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, try to use the automated partitioning mode instead
15:29.04Thanatermesisit should work without problems
15:30.12Elive_user_es_30I have Windows and Android in my HDD and I think automated partitioning erase the other OS
15:31.08Thanatermesisok yes, don't use automated mode then :)
15:31.10keyra:)
15:31.11Thanatermesisyeah it will remove everything
15:31.28ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, mmh, then try to install again, but don't use a /boot
15:31.33ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, wait, i need some info
15:32.01Thanatermesis~ ❯❯❯ sudo partitions-list --show-all --show-disks --show-raw | elivepaste
15:32.08ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, run this in a terminal ^
15:32.54Elive_user_es_30[(piped)] http://paste.debian.net/999823/
15:33.11Elive_user_es_30Amazing!!
15:34.19Thanatermesismmh, interesting...
15:34.31ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, you used sda5 for / and sda6 for /boot
15:34.38Elive_user_es_30Yes
15:34.49Thanatermesissupongo que sda5 está dentro de una partición extendida Elive_user_es_30
15:34.58Elive_user_es_30Exacto
15:35.20Elive_user_es_30No es la primera vez que hago instalaciones en particiones extendidas
15:35.33Thanatermesisok, voy a hacer unas pruebas en una maquina virtual a ver si hay algún problema con ese tipo de particionaimiento
15:35.59Elive_user_es_30Gracias, voy a reiniciar el portátil a ver si esta vez se ha instalado bien
15:37.05Thanatermesisok, conectate luego y miramos si funciona bien o si hay que hacer algun cambio al instalador :)
15:37.08keyra:)
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15:41.53keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_20! =)
15:42.01keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
15:42.10Elive_user_es_20Sido teniendo el mismo problema
15:42.17Elive_user_es_20Y sigo sin entender por qué me pasa esto
15:42.42Elive_user_es_20No es la primera vez que trabajo en entornos de Linux y quería instalar esta distro por ser ligera y amigable
15:43.06ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, dame unos minutos que hago unas pruebas en una maquina virtual con el tipo de configuracion que has utilizado para el particionaimeinto
15:43.18Elive_user_es_20Gracias, esperaré
15:43.25Thanatermesisasi podremos saber la causa
15:43.36Elive_user_es_20De verdad que te lo agradezco
15:43.40ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, enviaste los "report debug info" durante la instalacion?
15:44.02Elive_user_es_20No estoy seguro de haber visto eso en algún momento
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15:45.01Thanatermesisal principio de la instalacion pregunta si deseas enviar la informacion durante la instalacion
15:45.03keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
15:45.06ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, es la version beta verdad?
15:45.19Thanatermesisuna version reciente* de la beta
15:45.32Elive_user_es_20Sí. De hecho para instalar se me actualiza el instalador
15:45.53Elive_user_es_20Y en su Web ponía que era mejor descargar la beta por estar muy obsoleta la estable
15:46.14Thanatermesisaha si
15:48.15Elive_user_es_20No creo que por usar la beta me de problemas digo yo
15:48.25Elive_user_es_20La veo muy estable con todo lo que he probado
15:48.44Thanatermesisla beta es mejor que la estable, si
15:49.06Thanatermesispero lo del instalador es extraño, voy a hacer unas pruebas, me tomará 15 min
15:49.51Elive_user_es_20No tengo prisa. Si yo también lo veo muy raro que me de problemas de arranque
16:01.01Thanatermesishum
16:01.06Thanatermesisa mi me ha funcionado correctamente Elive_user_es_20
16:02.27Elive_user_es_20Entonces no lo entiendo...
16:02.58ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, si lanzas eliveremote me puedo conectar a la computadora a ver si veo algo extraño en las configuraciones
16:06.02Elive_user_es_20Dónde encuentro eso?
16:06.14Thanatermesislanzalo desde la terminal
16:06.24Elive_user_es_20eliveremote
16:06.28Elive_user_es_20tal cual?
16:08.05Elive_user_es_20Ya lo he abierto en teoría
16:09.47Elive_user_es_20Cómo puedo ver que estás dentro?
16:10.30Thanatermesiscreo que el comando directamente pregunta si quieres verlo
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16:10.38keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
16:10.43Elive_user_es_20Le he dicho que sí, pero no veo nada
16:12.26Thanatermesisahora te sale?
16:12.39Elive_user_es_20Sigo sin ver nada de lo que haces
16:12.46Elive_user_es_20De hecho no sé si estás dentro
16:12.52Thanatermesissi ahora si
16:13.15Elive_user_es_20Pues de verdad que no veo nada
16:13.27Elive_user_es_20Ni una ventana abierta nueva, ni movimiento ni nada+
16:13.37Thanatermesismmh que raro
16:14.35Thanatermesisah, ya veo porque
16:15.10Elive_user_es_20Me encantaría poder ver algo, así de ver el problema, podré solventarlo en futuras ocasiones
16:15.27Thanatermesisok, dame unos minutos que actualizo eliveremote
16:18.44ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, lanza esto para actualizarlo:  apui eliveremote
16:18.53Thanatermesisluego lanza eliveremote de nuevo y te funcionará
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16:22.06ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, maximiza la ventana
16:22.15leranshi. What version number it's elive beta?
16:22.19keyraknow the version of your Elive running in your terminal: cat /etc/elive-version
16:22.48lerans<PROTECTED>
16:22.59ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, lanzasate el instalador? está instalando?
16:23.15Thanatermesislerans, 2.9.18
16:23.19Elive_user_es_20Está abierto, pero no instalando
16:23.23leransThanatermesis: gracias
16:23.30leranspara cuando la 3 estable?
16:23.32ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, ok, sal del instalador, cancela las ventanas
16:23.38ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, y maximiza la ventana de nuevo :)
16:23.40keyra:)
16:23.45Thanatermesislerans, pronto! espero :)
16:23.50Thanatermesislerans, quizas 1-2 meses
16:23.54leransok
16:24.01Thanatermesislerans, la version beta actual es muy estable, si quieres ya usarla
16:24.07leransVoy a bajar la beta
16:25.04leranspor cierto acabo de probar la herramienta gtop , es mas bonita que htop  (por si no la tienes por defecto)
16:25.47ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, oh, tu disco está particionado como gpt?
16:26.07Elive_user_es_20Sí, siempre se me queda así cuando hago arranques duales
16:27.05Thanatermesislerans, se ve buena :) pero parece que require de muchos recursos (innecesarios?) como node.js
16:27.15Elive_user_es_20Insisto que tal cual está, nunca he tenido problemas haciendo instalaciones :/
16:27.17keyra:|
16:27.18ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, esa debe de ser la causa, mmh...
16:27.19keyraThanatermesis ping
16:27.24Thanatermesiskeyra, pong :P
16:27.27keyra:þ
16:27.32Thanatermesiskeyra, are you bored?
16:27.46leransHay que esperar dos horas para el link de descarga si no dono?
16:28.23Thanatermesislerans, si, pero avisame cuando insertes el email y lo mando directamente
16:28.36leransya está insertado
16:32.46leransQue Enlightenment hay instalado en la beta?
16:34.23Thanatermesislerans, mira tu email
16:34.25Thanatermesise17
16:34.34Thanatermesises mejor e17 por muchas razones
16:34.41leransok, thanks
16:35.15leransveo que han avanzado en la 19 y estan con la 21
16:35.28leranses mas por curiosidad que otra cosa
16:37.19Elive_user_es_20Por lo visto te he puesto un reto difícil
16:38.11leransy de paso mirando la distro exlight que está usando e 0.22 con debian sid
16:38.17ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, si, parece que hay algunos problemas con gpt, pero no sé la razón de porqué pasa eso :), debería de hacer mas pruebas en la maquina virtual
16:38.20keyrait is not suggested to modify the repositories of elive, wrong things will happen! lots of things will not work, well, do it at your own risk, but now you are warned :)
16:38.51Elive_user_es_20Si es que estoy por instalar todos los sistemas de 0
16:39.08Elive_user_es_20Pero por qué razón una tabla se vuelve gpt?
16:39.21Thanatermesislerans, si pero como digo, el e17 de Elive es mucho mejor... aunque si ves encuentras algo que parezca lo contrario hazmelo saber :)
16:39.23keyra:)
16:39.43ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, algunas distros usan gpt, se supone que es mejor pero hace que luego sea mas complejo y menos compatible
16:40.17Elive_user_es_20Entonces es algo automático que suele hacer las distros de Linux?
16:41.13Thanatermesissi
16:41.25leransThanatermesis: ya pasó con el e16 que hasta que le mnetiste el e17 te costó. Me maravilló lka fluidez de tu distro. Lo que pasa que me toca ir saltando de sistema en sistema por cuestiones laborales. Ahora retorno a "casa" con Elive. No quiero calentarme la cabeza
16:42.00leransEso si, el Gimp lo customizo y lo disfrazo de Ps
16:42.32Thanatermesislerans, sube algun screenshot del gimp :)
16:42.49Thanatermesislerans, el gimp de las ultimas versiones de Elive está muy mejorado y también se parece a PS, aunque con mejoras de usabilidad
16:43.58ThanatermesisElive_user_es_20, prueba de reiniciar ahora a ver si arranca, pero no estoy muy convencido de que lo haga
16:44.18Elive_user_es_20Ok, ojalá funcione. Muchísimas gracias
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16:47.35keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_30! =)
16:47.43keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
16:47.53Elive_user_es_30Sigo igual
16:49.28Thanatermesismmh
16:49.37Thanatermesisvuelve a lanzar eliveremote, voy a probar otra cosa
16:50.13Elive_user_es_30Cómo se actualizaba? Es que al usar el medio extraíble, por lo visto tengo paquetes desactualizados
16:50.38Thanatermesisapui eliveremote
16:57.23ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, es extraño, debería de funcionar, pero en todo caso el problema es el gpt
16:57.39Thanatermesisvoy a hacer otra prueba en mi maquina virtual...
16:58.42Elive_user_es_30<Thanatermesis, Me extraña mucho puesto que siempre que he tenido que trabajar y formatear ordenadores ajenos, los cuales me piden arranques duales a veces, nunca había tenido problema con GPT
17:00.01Thanatermesiscomo viste en la terminal Elive_user_es_30, grub no puede instalarse correctamente si se usa gpt, lo forzamos pero no funcionó, quizás las nuevas versiones de grub estén mejorado pero no será posible actualizar grub hasta después de la version 3.0
17:00.48Elive_user_es_30<Thanatermesis> vaya por Dios.... mEntonces si me interesa instalarlo, me toca formatear de 0?
17:01.06ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, bueno, tienes varias opciones
17:01.37Thanatermesisuna sería actualizar el grub de otra distro instalada a ver si incluye el arranque de Elive
17:01.46Thanatermesiso dicho de otra forma mas simple, reinstalar otra de las distros
17:02.26Thanatermesisla otra opción si, es formatear de cero usando msdos en la tabla de particiones en vez de grub, o añadir un disco extra en la computadora para instalar Elive en ese aparte (sin gpt/
17:02.47ThanatermesisElive_user_es_30, dame unos minutos que realizo otra prueba en la maquina virtual
17:03.03Elive_user_es_30podría probar pues a coger ubuntu (por poner un ejemplo) y de ahí reinstalar el grub?
17:03.53Thanatermesissi
17:04.03Thanatermesissi dejas Elive instalada en esa maquina, debería de funcionar
17:04.37Thanatermesisaunque yo reinstalaría primero Elive de nuevo por si acaso (ya que hemos tocado las configuraciones), y sin elegir la particion de /boot que no es necesaria
17:09.39Elive_user_es_30Muy bien, voy a probar pues
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17:28.30keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
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17:43.00keyrawelcome EliveWeb_86059! If you have any problem with Elive just talk to Thanatermesi if is here or report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org to better assist and having you notified about it easier.
17:44.00EliveWeb_86059pls is elive in czech language?
17:46.27Naglfarhello EliveWeb_86059 we need help in some czech translations
17:49.27EliveWeb_86059i can speak english very bed
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18:56.47keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_29! =)
18:56.55keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody!
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19:20.03keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
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19:46.32keyrawelcome EliveWebnew! If you have any problem with Elive just talk to Thanatermesi if is here or report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org to better assist and having you notified about it easier.
19:46.33EliveWebnewHi
19:46.35keyrahi there
19:46.44EliveWebnewI think I love/hate elive
19:47.35Naglfarhi EliveWebnew
19:47.52NaglfarI love elive too EliveWebnew, but let me know what makes you hate it
19:47.55EliveWebnewIt doesnt seem to mind I'd like to install chrome and not netsurf...who knows what else it didnt install right. But its the only good looking, working, and accepting REALTEK AUDIO OS -_-
19:48.30EliveWebnewIts like selling your soul to the devil. Not sure if I get all I want or just lost everything =_="
19:48.32keyraomg...
19:49.15EliveWebnewBut why I'm really here, does anyone know the security differences between Elive and Linux mint?
19:51.58ThanatermesisEliveWebnew, chrome and netsurf are included in the installer so you can select them to have them (or uninstall them)
19:52.05Thanatermesisis this feature not working?
19:52.21Thanatermesisabout security: debian is more secure than ubuntu, mint is based in ubuntu, Elive is based in debian
19:53.16ThanatermesisElive also includes optional fail2ban in the install, which bans IPs based in possible attacks, so its very hard to try attacking an Elive system
19:53.40EliveWebnewSweet. And yes it seems the options are being ignored during install
19:53.55EliveWebnewFrom last version to the current one
19:54.12EliveWebnewAlso how does elive update? Does it ever update automatically? Or do you have to manually?
19:54.34EliveWebnewOh Hi Thana btw. Didn't realize I switched helpers
19:56.03Thanatermesisoptions ignored when trying to install or uninstall them ?
19:56.25EliveWebnewFresh install Elive. I untick netsurf and leave Chrome ticked
19:56.31EliveWebnewI got netsurf though
19:59.07Thanatermesismmh this is strange, the installer correctly marks it for uninstall
19:59.21Thanatermesisare you using the last installer? (updated if you are connected to internet during install)
20:01.08EliveWebnewDVD version updated automatically before installing
20:01.30EliveWebnewIts an old pc that doesnt support usb. Before I knew it can force boot I made a DVD
20:01.42keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
20:02.25EliveWebnewAlso it might be me but Chrome only works on 64bit Linux. Isn't Elive 32 Bit only?
20:02.39Thanatermesisyes
20:02.46Thanatermesisits the last version of chrome that works for 32bits :)
20:02.49keyra:)
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20:03.03keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
20:03.04Thanatermesismmh, i will need to test that netsurf thing, so it should have been uninstalled
20:03.06EliveWebnewAh so an oldie. Doesn't that make it insecure or unusable at some point?
20:03.15ThanatermesisEliveWebnew, by other side you can just run "apr netsurf"
20:03.28NaglfarI like to test netsurf too
20:03.50ThanatermesisEliveWebnew, well, in the end is just optional to you to use it or not, i preffer chrome than iceweasel due to resources and performance
20:03.52EliveWebnewI wanted chrome. That's the point. I didn't want netsurf :>
20:04.21ThanatermesisEliveWebnew, chrome was uninstalled when you have it selected in the checkbox [x]  ?
20:05.29EliveWebnewOr not installed at all. Yes
20:05.58Thanatermesismmh let me test that..
20:06.51EliveWebnewSigh...I'll have to redo the entire triple boot from scratch it seems...I wish 3.0 was out T.T
20:08.12Thanatermesistriple boot?
20:08.59EliveWebnewIts an old Pc so I thought I'd mostly use it for gaming. Win XP for my old games. Win 7 for steam games and Elive for Programming and all the important stuff
20:09.10EliveWebnewI'd do a quadrillion boot too. I'm crazy :D
20:09.38EliveWebnewBut after the third boot you'll get a boot to the face one way or another. Never do triple boot. Use virtual machines D:
20:12.04EliveWebnewWhat pisses me off the most right now is that I need Discord. It won't run on 64 bit windows and not on 32 Bit Linux. That ruined everything just now. x]
20:12.15keyraelive in 64 bits is planned in the near future, if you don't have the package that you need you can just use --arch i386 for now, so i386 on amd64 works simply perfectly good and without any performance impact,
20:28.51Thanatermesisinteresting, netsurf is not uninstalled :)
20:28.53keyra:)
20:28.56Thanatermesislet me see what's going on...
20:29.33EliveWebnewSweet I made a difference :D
20:32.03Thanatermesisfixed! :) thx for reporting EliveWebnew
20:32.56EliveWebnewGlad to help! I thought it was only my pc. It tends to do things differently :>
20:33.36EliveWebnewIf you don't mind I'd still like to ask some general linux questions
20:34.18EliveWebnewAnd windows too if anyone here has experience~
20:37.09Thanatermesisi dont know about windows
20:37.15Thanatermesisbut i can help with linux*
20:38.32EliveWebnewI'm just wondering. How safe is it to use year old versions of linux? Say ubuntu 5 for example. Linux seems to be safer in general but how much?
20:38.34keyrawonder! wonder!
20:39.12EliveWebnewIts about Kernel and Graphical interface right?
20:42.03EliveWebnewAnd I'm wondering, it should be the same for windows, if I don't browse anything at all, only use two chat programs and steam, and block anything but those 3 with windows 7 Firewall, or any firewall, will I be completely safe? Except for holes in those 3 apps
20:45.28Thanatermesisyou should not worry so much
20:45.35Thanatermesisis very hard to attack a linux system
20:45.39Thanatermesisits secure by nature
20:46.21Thanatermesiswindows instead is full of holes, bad coded
20:48.14EliveWebnewBut even if its so old it won't get security updates?
20:48.30EliveWebnewI have a (hopefully) foolproof plan to secure my Steam account 8)
20:48.45EliveWebnewOn windows of course. Few fames work on Linux
20:49.21EliveWebnewgames*
20:58.13EliveWebnewAnd my last question, did the system requirements change at all since 2.0? Looking at how efficient the last update seemed to make everything, is it possible they'll be even lower than before?
21:00.17Thanatermesisyes, security repo is enabled in Elive
21:00.47EliveWebnewAwesome!
21:01.04EliveWebnewWait that wasnt what I meant xD
21:01.22Thanatermesisyes, it is possible that is lower than before :), but i have not tested it deeply, so if you have a feedback comparison of 2.0 VS recent beta I would be happy to know :)
21:01.24EliveWebnewI meant for example ubuntu 5. Its so old and wont get updates. Still safer than windows with antivirus and all?
21:01.25keyra:)
21:01.30keyradue to the nature of work of a linux* system, a virus is impossible to exist
21:01.43EliveWebnewAnd keyra you obviously don't know your stuff :>
21:02.28EliveWebnewI would love to give feedback but I have no key for 2.0 I didn't realize it was pay to use until during install
21:03.15EliveWebnewWell....I'd better go and fix my triple boot...maybe make a quadruple boot out of it now. Since the stupid chat app doesnt like me ._.
21:05.31EliveWebnewGood work with your distro. Its insane. I love it~ See you next time :D
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21:53.16Tyre64what is the difference between 2.9.16 and 2.9.18?
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22:24.45keyrayepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D
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22:28.25Thanatermesisgoing to upload tomorrow 2.9.20 Naglfar, this version will include amazing features in the button borders :)
22:28.27keyra:)
22:28.30keyrawarning! new things means new bugs! muahaha
22:28.48Thanatermesiskeyra, shut up!
22:28.49Naglfarinteresting
22:28.50keyra:-#
22:29.11Thanatermesisit has been almost 1 month work :)
22:29.22Thanatermesisi think that this is going to be one of the most special features for Elive 3.0
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23:17.59keyrawelcome EliveWebnew! If you have any problem with Elive just talk to Thanatermesi if is here or report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org to better assist and having you notified about it easier.
23:18.00EliveWebnewHi!
23:18.07EliveWebnewI am back with a serious question
23:18.12grottemhi
23:18.14keyrahi there
23:18.43grottembtw hi to Thanatermesis :) if he's awake :p
23:18.45keyra:þ
23:18.52EliveWebnewI have Linux mint 18.2 cinnamon kernel 4.2?4? anyway, realtek audio drivers dont work. Lubuntu 16 with kernel 4.8 works perfectly
23:19.15EliveWebnewOther than lubuntu being a buggy piece and using xfce i see no difference, can the desktop environment screw with my audio drivers?!
23:19.18keyraThanatermesis ping, somebody needs you
23:21.30EliveWebnewOr let me rephrase, can the desktop environment be at fault if my audio device isnt even recognized? Elive sounds good. Even lubuntu sounds good. Mint is forever muted
23:24.49Naglfargood to know EliveWebnew
23:24.53Naglfarhello grottem
23:25.01grottemhola Naglfar :)
23:25.03keyraque tal ?
23:25.06keyra:)
23:25.43Naglfarhola :)
23:26.24Naglfarare you ready for 2.9.20 grottem ?
23:26.37EliveWebnew:D
23:26.43grottem:p no
23:26.45keyra:þ
23:26.57grottemstill resetting everything afther the 18 update
23:26.59EliveWebnewBut it was a question...I need a quadruple boot and gotta figure out how to get sound :c
23:27.27grottemi'm sorry EliveWebnew i can't help you with that
23:27.40EliveWebnewStill thanks
23:27.42NaglfarEliveWebnew, why not simply boot elive ?
23:27.59EliveWebnewBecause I need a 64 bit Linux to get the stupid discord onto it
23:28.10keyraelive in 64 bits is planned in the near future, if you don't have the package that you need you can just use --arch i386 for now, so i386 on amd64 works simply perfectly good and without any performance impact,
23:28.19Naglfarwhat discord is?
23:28.23EliveWebnew32bit only windows and 64bit only linux. No OS in my triple boot fit the criteria for anything. It took me 8 hours to get it all done =_=
23:28.25keyraomg...
23:28.28EliveWebnewIts a chat app
23:29.13EliveWebnewI didnt want to waste extra resources on virtual machines. So a fourth boot has to do it
23:29.21Naglfaris there discord chat app source code ?
23:29.25keyrahave you already checked the Elive group in github?
23:30.57EliveWebnewI don't think so...
23:32.27EliveWebnewI just had an idea. It works in browser too. Screw linux except elive. I'm gonna use a browser o.o
23:32.36Thanatermesis<PROTECTED>
23:32.53EliveWebnewBest solution yet. Only firefox wont display some things right
23:32.57EliveWebnewLike hotmail.
23:33.10keyradon't use hotmail, it's from microsoft and everything from them is garbage, hotmails makes real emails go to spam and spam go to inbox, they also don't like linux so you will never receive emails from Elive if you use hotmail, simply use Gmail, is safe and reliable
23:34.18EliveWebnewOh before I leave and repeat the painful triple boot, I have a suggestion for Elive effects
23:34.44NaglfarEliveWebnew, have you tryed netsurf or midori ?
23:34.49EliveWebnewI want instead of the sparkles anytime I click something, I want fire! Do you think that'd be possible? In low requirements? *3*
23:35.07EliveWebnewMidori never did anything right for me. Netsurf not yet
23:35.26EliveWebnewis netsurf any good?
23:36.03EliveWebnewOH
23:36.16EliveWebnewThe internet says its basically Elive in browser :O Is that right?
23:39.12NaglfarEliveWebnew, try netsurf and let us feedback about it, please
23:39.15EliveWebnewWell on windows 7 at least it simply crashes
23:39.21EliveWebnewI'll switch to elive now I guess
23:39.30EliveWebnewSee you in minutes!
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23:44.03keyrawelcome EliveWebnew! If you have any problem with Elive just talk to Thanatermesi if is here or report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org to better assist and having you notified about it easier.
23:44.26EliveWebnewI'm back. It doesn't really work but Firefox does. The newest version. Gotta live with it I guess
23:44.42EliveWebnewElive is buggy. My cd was not lying to me
23:44.48EliveWebnewother way, cd is buggy
23:45.23EliveWebnewOh before I do the tedious work, is the issue from before already implemented into the current installer? I want chrome installed
23:47.40NaglfarI didn't been able to get room enough in a cd for elive since some long time ago, do you mean dvd instead ?
23:50.29EliveWebnewDVD yes. I always say cd to anything round
23:50.34Naglfar:)
23:50.36keyra:)
23:50.41EliveWebnewMy hdd is basically an encapsuled cd D:
23:51.00Naglfarbtw an usb memory could be faster than dvd and probably no buggy
23:51.31EliveWebnewThis pc is really old and doesnt support usb. I didn't know about the force option before I burned it. Will do this time :>
23:52.37Naglfarwhat package manager are you trying in elive EliveWebnew ?
23:53.53EliveWebnewJust whatever is installed with it. As of yet never used any. Never installed anything on my own
23:54.17EliveWebnewI really gotta download elive from windows. This version starts to scare me 0.oo
23:54.37EliveWebnewweird behaviour I tell you. dont us corrupt dvds I tell ya
23:55.50Naglfarthank you for appoinment EliveWebnew
23:57.21EliveWebnewYup. If you need someone to try out a posessed Distro for you I'm the right guy 0.0
23:58.50Naglfar:)
23:58.52keyra:)

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