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| 00:19.49 | *** topic/#elive is Web: http://www.elivecd.org | BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org - please report problems so we can solve them | Forum: http://forum.elivecd.org | Elive 3.0 is on the way and going to be entirely cost-free! |
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| 00:40.57 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_de_77! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 00:41.05 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
| 00:42.46 | Elive_inst_de_77 | question. do I have to have a second eltrans account if I want so work on a second lenguage? |
| 00:42.52 | keyra | To get an eltrans account, just fill up this form: http://collaborate.elivecd.org and you will receive an email with the activation |
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| 00:43.16 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user1! =) |
| 00:43.18 | Elive_inst_de_77 | I already have one |
| 00:43.24 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
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| 00:46.14 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Hello, someone still there out there?? I know, it is in the middle of the night... If not, I will come back in the morning. |
| 00:48.54 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Good night, I'll go to bed, too. See you... |
| 00:48.58 | keyra | good night to you too! |
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| 02:58.48 | richardxavier | hey |
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| 12:32.24 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_de_77! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 12:32.32 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
| 12:33.31 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Here I am again. Anyone available to answer a couple of questions? |
| 12:39.13 | richardxavier | just as new as yo uare |
| 12:40.18 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Then probably you are not the right one to ask ;-) |
| 12:40.55 | richardxavier | correct |
| 12:41.01 | richardxavier | still curious what problems you've having |
| 12:41.11 | Elive_inst_de_77 | I have questions about translations which I have done in eltrans. |
| 12:41.15 | richardxavier | I have a half dozen annoyances |
| 12:41.26 | Elive_inst_de_77 | what kind? |
| 12:41.44 | richardxavier | login screen doesn't let you switch to dvorak |
| 12:42.06 | richardxavier | the video players all have bad behavior |
| 12:42.09 | Elive_inst_de_77 | what else? |
| 12:42.39 | Elive_inst_de_77 | What kind of computer do you use? |
| 12:42.39 | richardxavier | tride to get rid of audacity, it wouldn't work |
| 12:42.54 | richardxavier | dunno, somethnig fairly new |
| 12:43.08 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Laptop or desktop? |
| 12:43.29 | richardxavier | \desktop |
| 12:43.45 | richardxavier | (I ceased caring about hardware a long time ago |
| 12:44.45 | Elive_inst_de_77 | I just installed elive on my wife's old netbook with an Atom CPU. There it runs very well so far. |
| 12:44.54 | richardxavier | I installed VLC because it had reasonable behavior before, it has horrible behavior now. keeps dying too. I thought that was just it but then the internet selector died today |
| 12:45.07 | richardxavier | this comp is a year old |
| 12:45.29 | Elive_inst_de_77 | What kind of bad behaviour are you talking about? Does it crash? |
| 12:45.36 | richardxavier | elive was installed on it a week ago, after we gave up on unity and the others |
| 12:45.59 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Who is the manufacturer of the PC? |
| 12:46.03 | richardxavier | mplayer can't be killed and shows no controls |
| 12:46.15 | richardxavier | rage player has no playlist nor good ways to control the video |
| 12:46.44 | richardxavier | VLC audio codec is fucked for mp3 and video is fucked |
| 12:47.13 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Does not sound good, especially if it is a fairly recent machine. |
| 12:47.19 | richardxavier | it is |
| 12:47.35 | richardxavier | completely new install as of a couple weeks ago |
| 12:47.51 | richardxavier | it had ubuntu before and gave up on that because it was a complete piece of trash AND fugly |
| 12:47.54 | Elive_inst_de_77 | what other distros have you tried already? It may be a general hardware issue |
| 12:48.03 | keyra | please use the BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org unless somebody here can help you. BTW, by knowing the problems we can solve them not only for you but for everybody! :) |
| 12:48.16 | richardxavier | ubuntu, mint I think |
| 12:48.28 | richardxavier | no just ubuntu |
| 12:48.30 | Elive_inst_de_77 | That did not work either? |
| 12:48.45 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Mint, I mean |
| 12:48.52 | richardxavier | the ubuntu came preinstalled and unity was shit |
| 12:49.14 | richardxavier | tried to install another window manager, which sucked just as bad |
| 12:49.17 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping |
| 12:49.44 | richardxavier | then installed enlightenment and that was ... barely working, and still looked better than unity |
| 12:50.47 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Most important thing is that it works in the first place. So you never had any Linux distro on this machine working properly? |
| 12:52.10 | richardxavier | I think we tried to install an offshoot from gnome3 |
| 12:52.58 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Unity is something many people do not like. This is why Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, has returned to Gnome now. but there are other desktops available for Ubuntu, too, like MATE, Xfce, KDE. Have you tried these flavors? |
| 12:52.59 | richardxavier | well ... define properly given that I detested unity the moment I saw it |
| 12:53.13 | richardxavier | MATE! |
| 12:53.18 | richardxavier | we tried that, it sucked |
| 12:53.31 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Can you be more specific? |
| 12:53.51 | richardxavier | everything about it was wrong? |
| 12:54.06 | Elive_inst_de_77 | even more so? |
| 12:54.10 | richardxavier | oh yes |
| 12:55.20 | richardxavier | there's a gap between not working as advertised and/or expected, and seller being a con / used car salesman |
| 12:55.34 | richardxavier | unity and mate are both in used car salesman territory |
| 12:55.40 | richardxavier | enlightenment is not working as expected |
| 12:56.09 | richardxavier | so let's say some things don't work in enlightenment, let's say even a half dozen annoyances have stacked up in a week of use |
| 12:56.20 | richardxavier | that's still nothing comparatively, I'll stick with it |
| 12:56.32 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Anyway: if Elive does not work properly, you should talk to the developers and describe what exactly does not work as desired. Either they already can give you suggestions for a solution or your hints help them to do something about this. |
| 12:56.38 | keyra | actual developers are Thanatermesis and PrinceAMD, maybe I forgot others? well, im only a bot :รพ |
| 12:57.02 | richardxavier | hmm, that's useful of the bot |
| 12:57.16 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Thought so, keyra :-) |
| 12:58.02 | richardxavier | one problem is video players aren't the enlightenment devs' responsibility. and there's the shocking possibility that none of them might have good behavior |
| 13:09.37 | Elive_inst_de_77 | You are right about the development of the players, but you often find that a specific program does not run properly in a particular environment, too. The collusion between OS and program does not always run smoothly, because a program needs certain resources to be present on which it depends. I am at the Elive netbook of my wife right now and for the fun of it tried Rhythmbox which came with Elive. It works without problems. |
| 13:15.52 | richardxavier | yes, and it sure beats audacity, which I can't get rid of as the default |
| 13:16.59 | richardxavier | unfortunately, I'd prefer a video player since half my music files are flash and the other half are mp3s |
| 13:19.19 | Elive_inst_de_77 | Just tried VLC on that machine in Elive, and it also works without bad behaviour. If audacity is set as default music player: you certainly can change that in some system settings, I guess. Shall I look around in my Elive for you? |
| 13:21.12 | richardxavier | it should be right click, open with, use as default. it just doesn't work |
| 13:22.32 | richardxavier | VLC screws up colors and has horizontal rays of blurred color that show up in some scenes. it's an intermittent effect |
| 13:23.06 | richardxavier | an effect that didn't exist on my truly ancient VM |
| 13:24.07 | richardxavier | when VLC is playing MP3s, anything past a certain threshold of loudness gets distorted and staticky. when every other audio player plays them fine |
| 13:25.50 | richardxavier | the video players that come default on ELive use the web browser and one's an editor, and then there's rage and MPlayer neither of which have a playlist |
| 13:26.56 | richardxavier | I don't want to use a web browser for anything. and if I did it would be opera not firefox which I loathe. opera comes preinstalled with an ancient version and its flash doesn't work. I know how to fix it but haven't gotten around to it |
| 13:27.04 | richardxavier | for everything |
| 13:46.22 | Elive_inst_de_77 | I can at least tell you the following to make something the default application: you need to use Everything and not the open with thing after a right click. That does not work either on my system here even with the checkbox checked. In Everything, you search for 'standard applications' - enter it in the search field. You will get a window with a list of all programs installed and some standard things like browser, e-mail etc. On |
| 13:46.22 | Elive_inst_de_77 | the top right there is a tab 'General' or the like - my system language is German. Click this one and scroll down the list until you see audio/xxx and select audio/basic. Then, on the right side of the window, go down until you see VLC and select it. Click 'Apply'. Scroll further down to video/xxx and select video/x-flv. Go down one more time to VLC on the right side of the window, click 'Apply' and close the window. Now you shou |
| 13:46.23 | Elive_inst_de_77 | ld be good to go. If this does not cover all your video, look at the other video types you can choose there. You also may have to fiddle around with either VLC settings or sound settings in Elive in general. Video on my netbook is not so brilliant either, but this is rather the slow CPU, I presume. |
| 13:46.30 | keyra | is there any mimetype wrong configured in elive? please report it to our BTS, we need to have everything that simply-work |
| 13:46.33 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
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| 15:06.28 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_de_77! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 15:06.36 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
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| 15:12.09 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_de_47! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 15:12.17 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
| 15:13.04 | Elive_inst_de_47 | Hi, anyone else here? |
| 15:14.02 | richardxavier | me |
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| 15:23.27 | keyra | Thanatermesis, memo for you: <grottem/#elive/2018-03-05 15:40> can you look for the updates that are needed for teamviewer 13 |
| 15:23.27 | keyra | Thanatermesis, memo for you: <grottem/#elive/2018-03-14 18:14> http://koala-app.com/ doesn't work in elive :( |
| 15:34.52 | Thanatermesis | !memo grottem koala-app not working: better tell me what is the exact error message (or a pastebin if there's multiple lines), if the error is a libc6 one, that means that the base system needs to be newer (after 3.0) |
| 15:34.53 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify grottem when I see him/her around! |
| 15:46.29 | Elive_inst_de_47 | did you try my advice about the defaoult applications? |
| 15:47.32 | Thanatermesis | Elive_inst_de_47, which default applications? i dont remmeber... |
| 15:49.46 | Elive_inst_de_47 | I meant richardxavier |
| 15:51.01 | Thanatermesis | oh :) |
| 15:51.04 | keyra | :) |
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| 17:03.41 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_13! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 17:03.49 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
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| 17:26.04 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 18:18.05 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 19:30.36 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_de_47! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
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| 19:30.44 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_de_77! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 19:30.44 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |