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| 09:44.14 | richardxavier | gif file -> "open with" ImageMagick (display) = preempting the window manager and making it very difficult to kill |
| 09:45.17 | richardxavier | ImageMagick is in the default installation |
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| 11:33.56 | jbetz | is there any way to update elive without installing from a new image? |
| 11:34.12 | keyra | you can run apug to upgrade your system, but sometimes a full reinstall is better because there's some things that you can miss that are not simply in packages, like boot detections or installer configurations, the best is to read the changelog and decide if its worth to do it, remember that the installer will save your users and files. |
| 12:04.22 | Naglfar | jbetz, installing is the update method by now, try to use an partition to mount /home, this will simplify the process |
| 12:06.32 | Naglfar | richardxavier, if you run display (ImageMagick) from a terminal window you can use ctrl+c to send kill signal, else use alt+RMB then select kill |
| 12:06.59 | richardxavier | thanks on the last |
| 12:07.15 | richardxavier | I don't plan on running ImageMagick on gifs ever again |
| 12:09.55 | Naglfar | I believe display is just for images, but ImageMagick also has animate, for animated gif and probably aniamted png too |
| 12:10.32 | richardxavier | and my point was that if it's a reproducible problem then ImageMagick (display) shouldn't be listed for the gif type. I tested it again on the same gif |
| 12:20.47 | Naglfar | richardxavier, also you can use mplayer for gif |
| 12:22.00 | richardxavier | thanks |
| 12:24.44 | richardxavier | I'm curious how you have difficulty distinguishing between "I'm reporting a general problem that affects others" and "I'm reporting a specific problem that concerns me". a landmine on elive is a general problem that I'll avoid by simply not stepping on it |
| 12:24.54 | keyra | we had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 12:25.02 | keyra | please use the BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org unless somebody here can help you. BTW, by knowing the problems we can solve them not only for you but for everybody! :) |
| 12:25.46 | richardxavier | after the landmine blew up in my face is too late to fix it for me |
| 12:31.24 | Naglfar | we can't fix it for you, but we can try to fix it for next and further releases |
| 12:32.15 | Naglfar | let me message to Thanatermesis |
| 12:33.07 | Naglfar | Thanatermesis ImageMagick (display) shouldn't be listed for the gif type |
| 12:33.16 | Naglfar | mmm |
| 12:33.41 | Naglfar | not this one |
| 12:34.21 | Naglfar | !memo Thanatermesis ImageMagick (display) shouldn't be listed for the gif type |
| 12:34.21 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Thanatermesis when I see him/her around! |
| 12:36.08 | Naglfar | that's good to let him know some more info |
| 12:36.21 | Naglfar | !memo Thanatermesis gif file -> "open with" ImageMagick (display) = preempting the window manager and making it very difficult to kill |
| 12:36.21 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Thanatermesis when I see him/her around! |
| 12:37.17 | Naglfar | now we only have to hope for answer |
| 12:41.40 | richardxavier | :):) this is good |
| 12:43.38 | richardxavier | if you didn't test it yourself, the effect is that it ate 85% of the CPU time slices. so the WM froze 85% of the time and was free 15%. causing it to stutter badly. the 15% chunks were aggregated together for some reason |
| 12:44.38 | richardxavier | killing it involved moving the mouse, guessing how far it needed to move and where, waiting for the mouse pointer to be free again ... |
| 12:44.47 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 12:45.42 | richardxavier | I almost agree with this, but it's too much "cyborgs under my command! kneel before valorum!" from darths & droids |
| 13:49.47 | grottem | greetings to the chat |
| 13:53.01 | Naglfar | greetings grottem |
| 13:53.20 | grottem | hola Naglfar |
| 13:53.22 | keyra | que tal ? |
| 14:37.10 | jbetz | damnit, elive uses wheezy and wheezy isn't supported by node :@ |
| 14:37.42 | jbetz | starting to think it isn't a good option as a linux distro for programming |
| 14:38.15 | jbetz | had stupid issues installing vscode, and now node, which I need |
| 14:45.49 | Naglfar | jbetz, is there any error message? |
| 15:31.22 | jbetz | Naglfar just a message about how wheezy isn't supported |
| 15:32.03 | Naglfar | then, I believe you are using precompiled binaries |
| 15:34.20 | jbetz | hmm |
| 15:35.00 | Naglfar | elive 3.0 will be the next release |
| 15:35.20 | jbetz | I'm running: |
| 15:35.20 | jbetz | curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_8.x | sudo -E bash - |
| 15:35.20 | jbetz | sudo apt-get install -y nodejs |
| 15:35.23 | keyra | how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 15:36.36 | jbetz | the second doesn't error, but it doesn't install node either, because `node --version` fails |
| 15:36.47 | jbetz | Naglfar: eta for 3.0? |
| 15:38.06 | Naglfar | I don't know exactly, last 2.9x release was some days ago |
| 15:41.30 | jbetz | so, maybe soon. I'll have to endure ubuntu in the meantime. |
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| 16:14.30 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_fr_16! =) |
| 16:14.38 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 16:14.40 | Elive_user_fr_16 | hello |
| 16:14.42 | keyra | hi there |
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